@@Tata-fm1dw i am experimenting with this platform, not sure if I will continue to use it as I am not sure it will give people the best platform. We will see in a day or two thats why I haven’t advertised it anywhere just added a link here 🙂
OMG! This is so useful! Our QA team said they would have loved to see this video when they were just starting out But now they are professionals and also share their experience. In our latest video they shared their software testing trends 2024, very handy!
Thank you for sharing the video. If you happen to notice me landing a job tomorrow as a graduate software validation engineer on LinkedIn, part of that success is due to your clarification on these matters. Much appreciated, Denis Hardi.
welcome back, elsa!!! :) it's nice to know from you the differences and similarities between QA engineer and software tester. i don't know if you remember me, but some time ago i sent you a message with some doubts regarding QA, because i was interested in this field. turns out im a software tester now!! :D im learning more about technical stuff, as you mentioned in the video, and im learning if my path is to become a QA engineer. thanks for sharing your videos once again, it's good to see you around!
OMG that is so awesome! 🥳 Of course I remember you, i’m so happy for you! Definitely exciting to learn new things, i hope this helped the shed some clarity as it did for me as well 😄
I would say it's perfect for introverts, you usually have your own tasks and if there are unclarities those can be sorted with quick sync calls usually with developers, I would say it's really up to a person & project you get into. There are the types where everything is soo clear that you just take a task and do it with no hiccups and there can also be the type where you will need to clarify a lot of things, but it's usually a quick process and can be done through comments. :)
Thank you for making this video. I am currently in Finance and want to switch to tech for a more flexible and promising career. Becoming a Software tester is a good place for me to start.
I would say it is a great place to start as it has a great career path I would say for any personality type. Either you may want to be a leader or something else it is definitely diverse enough for you to choose from. 👌🏽
Elsa, thanks for showing your view about the difference between a QA Engineer and a Tester Engineer. Unfortunately, the industry has created a lot of confusion as you mentioned at the end of the video. If we think about the terminology behind these 2 roles, we would find that QA Engineer is a misleading title and should never be used. Quality Assurance is a process, not a role. QA is a process applied throughout the entire SDLC and is not exclusive to a single group of professionals to perform. Different from Testers whose responsibility is to inform and improve a product using various techniques such as exploratory testing, they still don't assure quality but help develop and find improvements.
It definitely is a whole process - a whole process any QA engineer, tester etc. is a part of. I don't really like the use of the title Tester due to the fact that it describes your role in such a primitive way. QA is a process that we make happen, we work on creating the processes for it to work seamlessly with development & all other verticals, we compile data so stakeholders can make calculated decisions and we make sure the systems health is at top level as best we can with various methods we know. These few things alone are not as the title Tester is described. If you look for a description basically it says he tests things and thats just ridiculous description of this role. In my opinion it is much more than that and is not limited to only that. QA Engineer though yes the tile may be misleading, but if we look from the career growth opportunities spectrum etc. I am glad people have next level to get to which is recognized within this industry. Would be very sad to not have a place to climb to next, it would be pretty unmotivating, so no matter the incorrect use of terms I like to look at the positive regarding this. :) Loved your points!
@@elsaqa Thanks again for elaborating on this topic. I 100% agree that the way you describe QA Engineer is absolutely something that is a must to have and not just a primitive way. I think it would be the same as calling some as Coder Engineer, right? LOL However, I still wouldn't underestimate the position title as Test Engineer. I recommend taking a look on the disciplines and responsabilities listed on the job description for a Test Engineer at SpaceX. They also call it as Development Test which is also interesting.
Oh cool, i will definitely check out, thank you. SpaceX definitely has interesting approaches, maybe worth on making a video on. Love when people share new things with me and others here. That’s how we grow and develop new skills and insights 🙆🏽♀️
Thank you soo much! I appreciate the kind words and encouragement! 🙏🏽 The internship programs available you have to look online or just reach out to companies if they would be willing to take you on. Also welcome to the world of testing! 😎
Having worked as a QE, QA Engineer and QA Analyst, it would have been interesting if you could have opened the job listing titled "Manual QA Engineer" 😂
Hi Elsa! Thank you for sharing. I'm currently looking for a new job as a QA Engineer. My last title was QA Engineer, but the role was primarily that of a software tester, focusing on manual testing. This was because my previous company had a separate SDET team for automation. It's been challenging for me to find a new QA Engineer position because I lack automation skills. What do you suggest? Should I prioritize learning automation first?
Hey again. Honestly any skills will be of help to you, but you also have to research what the job market is saying and what skills are they looking for as. Also usually they ask for experience in this too so it is usually to go into automation through company growth opportunities but of course not always. Which country are you looking from a role in? Is it the EU market or US market or other?
@@elsaqa Ah, okay, thank you for the advice! Currently, I reside in Indonesia. However, due to numerous layoff issues within Indonesian startups, I've decided to enhance my knowledge first and explore foreign markets, perhaps focusing on the EU market. What are your thoughts? What should I study to prepare for the EU market?
@@Tata-fm1dw ah we have had layoffs on the EU side as well, market has shifted a bit, but when googling for open positions there are PLENTY open. EU market usually also want you to be a resident of it for a lot of roles that I was checking yesterday. Are you planning to stay in Indonesia? I would go and check their vacancies and check what they are asking for, offering to establish what it is you are maybe lacking first. Then improve on those aspects.
@@elsaqa Ah, I thought this only impacted Indonesia, but apparently not 🥲. In my long-term plans, I aim to leave Indonesia for the foreign market, particularly the EU. If an opportunity arises, I'll seize it, even if it means relocating. Thank you so much for your help, Elsa! Feel free to ask for any information about me; I'll gladly share it. Thanks!
@@ahmadmutasil3012 Its more in depth sort of topic that will be a separate video as it has a lot to go over. But overall, look for what skills QA Engineers have and try to become knowledgeable in those. Try courses, TH-cam videos to learn them. Read a book. Just try to level up. Then try to level up in your current company position if possible or switch to a QA Engineer position elsewhere.
@@elsaqa I'm currently studying Appium and Cypress. For Appium, I'm trying to take a course, and for Cypress, I'm learning by myself. Is that ok for the company's current needs? or is there anything else I need to learn besides those two things?
@@ahmadmutasil3012 you have to look for what are companies looking for and in demand these days. I dont know what your company wants. You can also ask. But i do think that all the skills you gain will never be for nothing. Skills will get you further you just have to apply them. But this is a popular automation language that is widely used too so i dont think its for nothing 🙂
@@elsaqa elsaaaa, I miss you! Please make more vids! 😁🥰 Do you think you can make a vid about personal characteristics a QA and Software engineer should have? I think it would be very interesting!
Thank you for his video....Really appreciate Please anyone that is willing to teach me automation testing, like using selenium web-drivers, Postman, Cypress etc, you can comment with your mail or contact so i can reach Thank you
Guys a like a day keeps the bugs away! 👀
already send request to join!
@@Tata-fm1dw i am experimenting with this platform, not sure if I will continue to use it as I am not sure it will give people the best platform. We will see in a day or two thats why I haven’t advertised it anywhere just added a link here 🙂
@@elsaqa Okay, please let us know your decision whether to continue using this platform or not. Hopefully, you can make it happen! 😆
Even as a QA Engineer TIL. I never thought of the difference between them.
This was very interesting, short and on point. Thanks!😊
Right?! I was thinking the same thing when I was compiling this. It was fun to learn all this😄
Wow! Where did u take the course?
OMG! This is so useful! Our QA team said they would have loved to see this video when they were just starting out But now they are professionals and also share their experience. In our latest video they shared their software testing trends 2024, very handy!
yes! I was thinking the same thing when making this video haha. oh that’s cool I will check it out! ☺️
Great content!! First time watching your videos and it clarify a lot of doubts to me XD. Kind regards from Dominican Republic
Haha thank you! It was the same for me too when making this 😄
Thank you for sharing the video. If you happen to notice me landing a job tomorrow as a graduate software validation engineer on LinkedIn, part of that success is due to your clarification on these matters. Much appreciated, Denis Hardi.
Oh man thank you, comments like this remind me why I do what I do! I really appreciate the kind words always happy to hear them! 🥰
welcome back, elsa!!! :) it's nice to know from you the differences and similarities between QA engineer and software tester. i don't know if you remember me, but some time ago i sent you a message with some doubts regarding QA, because i was interested in this field. turns out im a software tester now!! :D im learning more about technical stuff, as you mentioned in the video, and im learning if my path is to become a QA engineer. thanks for sharing your videos once again, it's good to see you around!
OMG that is so awesome! 🥳 Of course I remember you, i’m so happy for you! Definitely exciting to learn new things, i hope this helped the shed some clarity as it did for me as well 😄
super nice girl! and her style of explaining things is also lovely! cross fingers for your channel! ;)
Aww I truly appreciate it and so happy for the feedback! Thank you!!!!
00:39 leaving a like and a comment because of those 5 points mentioned in the corner.
Bumping up the karma scores, lets goo! 🚀
Welp i took a qa testing course and somehow they thought us how to be qa and software testers so money well spent
haha thats amazing, welcome to QA community 🥳
Wow ! Where did u take the course?
How can I take the course
@@syedataslima6559
I also want to know 😅
What course?! Thanks!
Is this good for introverts? I’m currently an it consultant and I hate it.
I would say it's perfect for introverts, you usually have your own tasks and if there are unclarities those can be sorted with quick sync calls usually with developers, I would say it's really up to a person & project you get into. There are the types where everything is soo clear that you just take a task and do it with no hiccups and there can also be the type where you will need to clarify a lot of things, but it's usually a quick process and can be done through comments. :)
Thank you for making this video. I am currently in Finance and want to switch to tech for a more flexible and promising career. Becoming a Software tester is a good place for me to start.
I would say it is a great place to start as it has a great career path I would say for any personality type. Either you may want to be a leader or something else it is definitely diverse enough for you to choose from. 👌🏽
Elsa, thanks for showing your view about the difference between a QA Engineer and a Tester Engineer.
Unfortunately, the industry has created a lot of confusion as you mentioned at the end of the video.
If we think about the terminology behind these 2 roles, we would find that QA Engineer is a misleading title and should never be used. Quality Assurance is a process, not a role. QA is a process applied throughout the entire SDLC and is not exclusive to a single group of professionals to perform. Different from Testers whose responsibility is to inform and improve a product using various techniques such as exploratory testing, they still don't assure quality but help develop and find improvements.
It definitely is a whole process - a whole process any QA engineer, tester etc. is a part of. I don't really like the use of the title Tester due to the fact that it describes your role in such a primitive way. QA is a process that we make happen, we work on creating the processes for it to work seamlessly with development & all other verticals, we compile data so stakeholders can make calculated decisions and we make sure the systems health is at top level as best we can with various methods we know. These few things alone are not as the title Tester is described. If you look for a description basically it says he tests things and thats just ridiculous description of this role. In my opinion it is much more than that and is not limited to only that. QA Engineer though yes the tile may be misleading, but if we look from the career growth opportunities spectrum etc. I am glad people have next level to get to which is recognized within this industry. Would be very sad to not have a place to climb to next, it would be pretty unmotivating, so no matter the incorrect use of terms I like to look at the positive regarding this. :)
Loved your points!
@@elsaqa Thanks again for elaborating on this topic. I 100% agree that the way you describe QA Engineer is absolutely something that is a must to have and not just a primitive way. I think it would be the same as calling some as Coder Engineer, right? LOL
However, I still wouldn't underestimate the position title as Test Engineer. I recommend taking a look on the disciplines and responsabilities listed on the job description for a Test Engineer at SpaceX. They also call it as Development Test which is also interesting.
Oh cool, i will definitely check out, thank you. SpaceX definitely has interesting approaches, maybe worth on making a video on. Love when people share new things with me and others here. That’s how we grow and develop new skills and insights 🙆🏽♀️
Your explanations are amazing.
I sincerely love what you are doing.
Kindly recommend internship program for me to follow. I'm new in software testing
Thank you soo much! I appreciate the kind words and encouragement! 🙏🏽
The internship programs available you have to look online or just reach out to companies if they would be willing to take you on.
Also welcome to the world of testing! 😎
Having worked as a QE, QA Engineer and QA Analyst, it would have been interesting if you could have opened the job listing titled "Manual QA Engineer" 😂
I am definitely going to do more of these type of videos, so I will check these out next time I do 😁
Hi Elsa! Thank you for sharing. I'm currently looking for a new job as a QA Engineer. My last title was QA Engineer, but the role was primarily that of a software tester, focusing on manual testing. This was because my previous company had a separate SDET team for automation. It's been challenging for me to find a new QA Engineer position because I lack automation skills. What do you suggest? Should I prioritize learning automation first?
Hey again. Honestly any skills will be of help to you, but you also have to research what the job market is saying and what skills are they looking for as. Also usually they ask for experience in this too so it is usually to go into automation through company growth opportunities but of course not always. Which country are you looking from a role in? Is it the EU market or US market or other?
@@elsaqa Ah, okay, thank you for the advice! Currently, I reside in Indonesia. However, due to numerous layoff issues within Indonesian startups, I've decided to enhance my knowledge first and explore foreign markets, perhaps focusing on the EU market. What are your thoughts? What should I study to prepare for the EU market?
@@Tata-fm1dw ah we have had layoffs on the EU side as well, market has shifted a bit, but when googling for open positions there are PLENTY open. EU market usually also want you to be a resident of it for a lot of roles that I was checking yesterday. Are you planning to stay in Indonesia?
I would go and check their vacancies and check what they are asking for, offering to establish what it is you are maybe lacking first. Then improve on those aspects.
@@elsaqa Ah, I thought this only impacted Indonesia, but apparently not 🥲. In my long-term plans, I aim to leave Indonesia for the foreign market, particularly the EU. If an opportunity arises, I'll seize it, even if it means relocating. Thank you so much for your help, Elsa! Feel free to ask for any information about me; I'll gladly share it. Thanks!
@@Tata-fm1dw Yes, well I wish you good luck on your search and keep following your goals no matter what and you will definitely get there!
Thanks for such an informative video.
Your very welcome! 🙃
thank you! i will be doing an internship in QA and tester thanks explaining!
Glad it was helpful!
Hey man, is there a job as a Junior or entry level where you will work as an intern?
I dont give jobs as I aint got a company to do that
Hi Elsa, I’m so interested in QA engineering.
Correctly, I am a software tester. How do I map the software tester to QA Engineering?
Do you mean how you transition into a QA Engineer from Software tester?
yaaa, can you explain that@@elsaqa? I'll wait for the next content
@@ahmadmutasil3012 Its more in depth sort of topic that will be a separate video as it has a lot to go over. But overall, look for what skills QA Engineers have and try to become knowledgeable in those. Try courses, TH-cam videos to learn them. Read a book. Just try to level up. Then try to level up in your current company position if possible or switch to a QA Engineer position elsewhere.
@@elsaqa I'm currently studying Appium and Cypress. For Appium, I'm trying to take a course, and for Cypress, I'm learning by myself. Is that ok for the company's current needs? or is there anything else I need to learn besides those two things?
@@ahmadmutasil3012 you have to look for what are companies looking for and in demand these days. I dont know what your company wants. You can also ask. But i do think that all the skills you gain will never be for nothing. Skills will get you further you just have to apply them. But this is a popular automation language that is widely used too so i dont think its for nothing 🙂
By "writing automation scripts" you mean automating TDD?
Well most of the time maybe. But it really depends on the project needs, persons skills, the flows etc.
Can u suggest me where to take the course please?
Hy. I dont have anything to recommend no.
Is better start as a Software tester and then transition to QA? Thank you for your video.
Well basically starting as a Junior Software Tester is like the start then you grow into a QA Engineer by gaining skill and experience! 🙂
thanks for trying your best appraciated!
Your welcome, happy to help!
Welcome back Elsa 🤩👊
Oh heeey, so excited to be back! 🤓☺️
Thank you for the very clear explanation 😊
You’re welcome 😊
Amazing content please which Job board website did you use in this video?
Thank you! I used Indeed or sometimes Glassdoor to check for company reviews 😊
Play at 2x speed.
Beside great information i like u as well ❤
Haha thank you so much! ☺️
🙏
Can you make a video regarding qa engineers and testers salaries and compare them?
For sure, it is on my list :)
@@elsaqa elsaaaa, I miss you! Please make more vids! 😁🥰
Do you think you can make a vid about personal characteristics a QA and Software engineer should have? I think it would be very interesting!
@@elsaqa oh, and can you speak about QA's ceilings?
Why
Why what?
ma'am you are osm ❤
Thank you so much! ☺️
Thank you for his video....Really appreciate
Please anyone that is willing to teach me automation testing, like using selenium web-drivers, Postman, Cypress etc, you can comment with your mail or contact so i can reach
Thank you
Thank you so much! ☺️🙏🏽
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