I get what you are saying but working in the tech industry for just money is actually the right thing. You could be working in any job and any job will be miserable after about 5 years of doing it but would you rather be working in the industry where you are bored and miserable for $20 an hour or Would you rather be working in an industry where you're miserable making $70 an hour?
If it were only that simple. If you’re only in it for the money with no passion behind it then good luck lol to be able to standout to even get into the field you’re gonna have to put in the WORK it’ll be much harder to do that without already having the passion for it
Because you have to actually be really really good. The people who can't stare at a screen every single day and code, and not only code, but learn new concepts and build high-grade projects, are not going to get a job. Now with the emergence of widely used LLMs, the need for SWE is dropping, and expecting it to open up back like how it was is naive. People who don't legitimately enjoy SWE are going to quit because being employed for years is depressing as hell.
The really sad thing about this attitude is that it can have real world implications. If your code winds up being used in a medical device then your rotten attitude can kill people. Even something simple like writing inefficient code because you don't care and just want a paycheck can result in thousands of hours of wasted time pissing off users or wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars of electricity. If you're just writing code for a video game, then it probably doesn't matter, but any other application and you're better off not being in the industry.
Wow whatever you said about expectations now are so accurate. AI won't replace SDE whereas SDE using AI for improved productivity will replace old SDEs
@@chrisrogers1092AI Will only replace SDE who don’t know how to use AI. And by the way, AI does not think nor is it innovative. An SDE has to tell it everything it needs to do and most often reiterate the actual objective numerous times.
Money is main reason for tech jobs. Passion wont pay your bills. Even if you're burn out, if the pay is good then your job is basically paying for your passion. Even if you hate the job at tech, its a lot better than going to the job that you love but pay a lot less. Maybe you can do that if your family is stable and they support you.
@@AbouFitness I agree with both sides tbh, cause like I want to pursue a career in animation but even though it CAN pay well it takes a lot of effort to make a very strong portfolio and they hire you based on experience as well. Plus pursuing your passion and turning it into your job might make you hate it, which is why people who are richer are usually the ones following their passions cause they don't have to worry about the pay, whereas other people do and have to sacrifice their passions for a higher paying job
In software development, the people who can get these FAANG "fun" and high-paid jobs, they should get them. But the current idea peddled that you should quit your job and get a new one at a whim cause a better one will just somehow fall on your lap... nothing is guaranteed. And if you don't find fulfilling work despite your genuine efforts, who cares. Not totally unrelated but it's like the proletyzation of entrepreneurship, all people should be aware that it's a path but everyone should be aware that not everyone makes the cut. For all Gen Z's ambition to do things their way (I'm Gen Z too), the ambitious / frustrated ones should just get in line.
If you don't have passion for software development you will make a terrible programmer. "Even if you hate the job at tech, its a lot better than going to the job that you love but pay a lot less" WAT??? spoken like a true dilettante haha
@@Etcher your passion wont pay your bills. Its either you're rich and doesnt know what it feels like to live in paycheck to paycheck or you're just a kid who's not in a real world yet. Lets see if you still love your "passion" work if you're only making $50k/year and doing overtime, renting, living alone, paying car and insurance. Good luck if you want to have family too. $50k is not even enough in today's inflation, let alone having a family and helping your parents.
Had a Meta recruiter get annoyed that I didn't want to move to the Bay Area, I guess a lot of people were saying no? Why's it gotta be onsite? Coders work better in their coding cave.
I have heard lot of complaints about copilot. It is not "pretty much the expectation". Freshers who take this "co-pilot is the norm" will end up being dead-on-arrival
This video is only for entertaining... it has little truth to all of it in general. Maybe it make sense for some "unicorn" world time line in few specific companies, but pretty much is empty talk just to post "interesting and controversial " video.
@@ishwarabhat Anybody who believes that AI is going to "10x their productivity" (whatever that means) is going to spend the next decade cleaning up 10x the tech debt that AI so kindly generated for them. Copilot is great for a quick prototype, replacing bad developers, and keeping me employed. Beyond that, it's garbage.
Quick advice for those who came because the thumbnail: SWE is science, is hard as hell and not for everybody and that's why you can make 6 figure (after years of experience, it will be not like that in the beginning), it's not a cashgrab, you don't get pay by typing stuff in a computer but to solve COMPLEX PROBLEMS, but if you love it then do it. If you're afraid about AI, It wont replace you, if you're smart enouigh it will be a tool that makes you more productive, just like frameworks and libraries does today.
Sorry folks, this video falls flat in terms of deeper details. This isn't an insult, but the problem here is that these perspectives are coming from someone who's career timeline for this industry started during the pandemic. How do they what's normal when what it was like before then wasn't directly realized and only heard of? The dumbest thing that was said was towards the end of the video: "I know there's different levels to software engineering, but because new things come out so quickly, sometimes junior engineers are the expert." -- oh lord, how false this is. I'm not conflating "engineer that has been around for a while" for a solid principal engineer either, but there is a very clearly gap between engineers who know their stuff, that typically end up senior or principal at some point, and a junior engineer and it's not even close. A junior engingeer maybe has less than a week, maybe even two days before a senior engineer is going to be more productive with some new technology and outpace them exponentially from there in actually solving the problems at hand. And the senior engineer will have the capacity to more quickly see if a technology actually doesn't address or solve the problems needed. They can identify quickly if a tool matches what they need to do, and don't waste time fighting against a tool that wasn't right in the first place. They understand what new tools are capable of, and exploit it quickly. I don't know if I can explain it any better and quickly, but don't ever carry a "better than thou" attitude vs someone that senior unless they've very very demonstrably shown a lack of adjustability. That they don't know some API name isn't signs of ignorance, they know the same API in 3-4 other technologies in the last 5 years that do the same thing and the differences between them, and you know only the one. If you falsely think they are "worse" than you and do something that reveals that to them, or even others, you'll look the fool and that engineer will not want to work with you. Next AI: sorry, if AI is a necessary tool in your job, then your job is doing something stupidly repetive and simple enough for a language model to see and repeat. If a company has a "proprietary" LLM for their own problems and repeated solutions, AI is an approach that could speed up productivity but it has a fatal flaw: code maintenance. An AI bootstrapping you with thousands of lines of code towards implementing something is great. When you take that, make edits to it to more precisely do what you need it to do, then create a pull-request for someone else to review, how efficient is it for that next engineer to have to dig through thousands of lines of code being assured of what your edits are versus the AI? Or do have to fully check the code then and there? That's were you lose time. The true solution for repetitiveness there is having your own code generator that models your problems and solutions as data, and then your code generator is essentially a solution data transformation into code that is generated at build time and never checked in. No one edits it, because if they do, it's instant maintenance nightmare. If someone wants to know what's up, they look no further than the model 99/100. Also, get rid of the concept of a 10x engineer. Seniority and knowledge of your own companies tools, and approaches, and global "requirements", and sometimes just the power and influence to not be questioned and challenged what you are doing is what allows people to be 10x in certain spaces but not actually be that good of an engineer. If any engineer views themselves as 10x any level of competent engineer on their team, they should feel uncomfortable and immediately understand what the problem is and ideally identify it. "Why don't other members of the team know X/Y?" "Why aren't they able to make changes to these areas of the code where I am?" If they come to the conclusion "because I'm better" they're absolutely wrong. Standout engineers in teams I've been on are at best 2x the next, maybe 3x the next if they also put in very long hours and work in an area they are super familiar with and others just aren't. Some engineers that have appeared to be standouts in the past, but then you realize they are just holding onto simple information and not revealing their sources and methods that anyone else on the team could run.
Ok, my career started three decades ago. Went through all major bubbles. I agree that salaries are vastly overblown and correction is long overdue. More so, I'm eagerly waiting for this correction, to finally start growing the team. Holding off hiring until then. But that's the only thing I agree with in this video.
Thanks , it was very insightful. I am at junior level. Some days i think i am a fool, other days I think i am onto something. :D I like the take of AI vs data modeling service. Infact I don't really like using AI for the same purpose, but i think what i can explore is some data modeling tool to scaffold common parts of repetitive tasks.
Interesting points! I’d actually disagree with a lot of this - I’ve been in the industry for 8 years (before the pandemic) and I’ve seen juniors use certain tools and tech that a lot of principals may have not encountered before. Of course, it’s oversimplifying their technical prowess when it comes to system design, infrastructure, and “bigger picture” … but I many of the BEST lead and principal engineers had a growth mindset and learned from juniors many times. It’s a bit short sighted to think about in a Hierarchal view. Secondly, AI should 100% be used as a tool. I use it every day. Every single day. My job is definitely not repetitive 😉 you don’t need to swear by it, but use it as a sounding board to ask questions back and forth. You always need to verify things, but it’s made me a much faster developer. Others fall behind when they don’t utilize it. When the internet first became commercialized, you wouldn’t tell people not to use it to do their jobs due to … their job being receptive? Doesn’t make a whole let of sense to me. Again, good points, and maybe this is just anecdotal on both of our parts! We’ve probably had different experiences, and don’t necessary align on em’ !
@@PoojaDutt Who said anything about a hierarchy? I'm sure you've experienced someone more senior being toxic, or maybe even a peer who is toxic towards another peer who isn't more senior, but that has nothing to do with this. People in software engineering can be obnoxious; and a prinicpal software engineer can be wrong in a particular context or situation, even if they are still 'better" than a junior engineer pretty much always. The fact that you keep stressing who knows or can use what tool is already an invalidating point on this issue. If you're a proper principal in a space, you're at a level where you've used just about every type of tool that matters even if you haven't touched every brand. So that some junior comes up and knows the latest and greatest tool "well" that a principal doesn't know only matters if someone gave them a hackathon project to show off something in 24 hours. Give it a week or probably even less and that gap isn't only erased, the junior clearly won't know when the tool has hit a limit and can't do something required; or they needs to go far deeper to get the tool to do something it doesn't do "for free" and are unable to. Any sensible project that needs to go to production for a non-trivial problem will do this. The point about AI is probably hard agree to disagree. You simply didn't read what I wrote or address any of it, and just went off and said the most bland of things. Why that is...I'm not sure, yet. Honestly, I deleted much of what I wrote because I'm getting vibes of someone who's talking way louder than whatever actual credentials exist.
I think I am one of those that is in this industry for all the wrong reasons. I was basically “pushed” into this by my parents because “it makes good money”. However, no one ever told me the amount of work it would take to actually stand out enough to get an internship. The competition is insane. The LeetCode part is the one I despise. And I’ve never done personal projects for the fun of it. I wonder if I should change careers as I go. I’m gonna take a course on Computer Graphics this semester and I hope that ignites a passion I never knew. All I loved about computers was doing things with the software itself; not make the software. Video Editing, AutoCAD, Blender, you name it. But CG is something I always loved about computers. We’ll see. But great and detailed video highlighting the realities of this career.
working hard is a good thing. Try some things out and see if you have a passion for something else. Given tech is highly paid, i would work on reducing your monthly expenses to give you the power to make a jump in the future if you need to.
@@Scott_Stern That sounds like a decent plan! I'm gonna commit and try this CG route and start over on programming to see if I can do something with it and find a passion. Otherwise, I suppose I can do what you mentioned. I'm still in university so I hope I still have time.
@@fortimusprime Im 30....all you have is time. Theres going to be things you dont like in every job you do. Unless you do it just out of pure enjoyment and not for money
@@Scott_Stern agreed. Thanks for sharing that insight. I’m only 20. I guess I still don’t realize just how young I still am. I’m now understanding that a job is a job and like you say, there will be things I dislike in every job, but that’s why I’ll get paid. I’m hoping to find some enjoyment in programming as I’m seeking to find something that ignites that interest in me. But your words truly do help. So, thank you for sharing!
To be honest, being a software engineer is probably one of the easiest jobs I've ever had. Once you've put in 10k hours, it gets easier from there. The catch is you gotta be obsessed with what you do most people do it for the money but for some of us its pretty much our lives so at some point its not work it's just another interesting problem to solve. The hardest part is office politics. Personally, the fewer people gatekeeping, the better. Practice being more like an opensouce project. Prod support should also get used to trying different solutions because that's pretty much the bread and butter in software dev
I'm definitely into software engineering. I'm introvert and would love to work on my own but I know that meetings are a process to and that I don't mind. I've been working in a field where I deal with people on a nonstop basis. At the moment, I'm on a short term disability and doing some video tutorials on coding with HTML and CSS and I love the fact that I'm home alone and not at work. I'm still working on these videos and love it. It's frustrating at times when a code don't work but I love solving the problem. As long as I make more than what I'm making now I'll be happy.
glad you found engineering. Be careful though, software engineering is a skill. Doing it at a company that pays well if definitely a team sport and youre dealing with people NON STOP.
One of the reasons I've staying in a Bank since 2020 making $350K (with an equal annual bonus), while my batchmates are in MAANG making $500-$700K, was because of peace of mind. Never seen anyone from tech team laid off in these 4 years, tech stack is decent, management keeps encouraging us to experiment and innovate stuff, and enough paid leaves. They keep saying i have no aspirations but all these times, especially in the current market, I realised that the best way to beat the matrix is to not play it at all. Having a stable 9-5 with good tech stack has it's perks over the hustle culture of volatile, but highly paid positions in MAANG
@@shubhamrana1022 it's an American big4 bank. Tech for me is mostly backend - java 17, Micronaut, SQL server, Cassandra, mongodb, goLang and some frameworks, elastic search, S3, REST HTTP1 but mostly it's gRPC with HTTP2. Sometimes I do a bit of react and typescript, but rarely.
Thank you! I think I’ve heard that of others who started earlier in the industry, I bet the next generation will make even more if we continue to have rapid inflation
The later part of video, where you bring value was always true since day1, that's how unix/linux/mac happened. If you don't see excitement in evolving tech, then those guys are not welcome...
How is a developer in software security the same as DevSecOps? Isn’t DevOps the bridge between development and operations? How are you DevOps as a just a developer?
You sir are rediculously under paid. If you are certified I would seriously look elsewhere after you gain 3 years experience. Well I agree, young kids shouldn't get paid 100k+ without experience it is a different matter after a decade with a speciality in security or dev ops. I think y ou are a perfect example of being paid 135K or more for your skills and experience
Ok for those who think that these people make 500k, let me tell you their true base salary isn't gonna be 300k,400k, or 500k. What I think Pooja leaves out is that these "salaries" are using a combo of RSUs(restricted stock units), bounses and their salary. To truly see how much they make per year just ask their base not their total compensation
I mean, every year, around 100k to 130k People graduate with a Comp-Sci degree across US, and another 30k to 35k People do a Bootcamp certificate. So as a new graduate, you are competing with like 130k to 165k People for a Tech Job. And right now, the Economy is very bad, especially for entry level folks who are just starting their career.
Thats pretty good considering its a bachelors prepared position...and competition isnt even that bad to get into the program in college...i had to get a masters in my field to earn the same amount you earn as an entry level position...
Honestly yeah, sadly this gives a bad to rep actual engineers. Folks being in an environement like this is demanding, sometime long hours debbuging something or refactoring some code. It takes time and a lot of effort is not all about vacations and do nothing at the office.
Thank you for the advice. As a newbie in the industry and just getting my first internship opportunity as a software developer, what do you recommend to help me stand a chance of being offered a full time position and how to get better at problem solving and becoming an asset to the company?
I would say that it’s a numbers game (part of it) apply to as many positions as you can and try to have all the requirements and “nice to haves” from the job description in your resume (you’re now competing with people who have been laid off by big tech companies as well)
I wish we could change the conversation from everyone saying go into tech because you love it not just for the money, when that's the only engineering field that people say that to. I work with Civil, and mechanical engineers and they all chose it because of job security not because of their passion for constructing roads. My advice, go into something that you find interesting enough to pursue, will pay you well, and won't leave you feeling burned out all the time. You can do either or both, up to you!!
Im a front end dev im a very visual / hands on interactive person. Im 24 and doing a post bacc in computer engineering because I want to go in to embbeded software engineering or PCB design. I dont want to work in just back end or front end. Im getting tired of having to just learn another framework every 6 months.
Hey, thats kinda neat. I'm in the same position, graduated with a math degree but I want to go back to school to learn more. When you say post-bacc are you referring to another bachelor's program or are you doing a masters? Let me know, I'm very much the same, interested in doing hands-on things.
Pretty accurate. I am sure we will see a lot of money chasers leaving the industry. It's actually good, I have been in the industry for over 10 years and the quality of leetcoding, money focused bad engineers has really made it less enjoyable. Not saying that money isn't important, but we are engineers with an eye on quality and craftsmanship.
Some current themes are layoffs and the tough entry/openings... Long term i hope things will correct themselves with the market. Also the trend is the return of standard in office work days so I'm not too hopeful that hybrid or remote shall be as common.
Do you have statistics about people who give up before and after entering the market? How many, which stage, level of experience, what they do now? And about people who plan to give up ? Do you know if it exists? Also, are there similar 2018 appealing trends in other domains?
Be a software engineer , anyways , who ever wants to - just takes some time , and some patience , be an eager beaver Nice video presentation btw . it was good , fast to the point.
Oh, oh, oh. With AI you still 10x your bugs, not productivity. Copilot is still a mess except the one thing: A well known algorithm that you do not need to write over and over again. But that is not really 10x, more like semi-automatic 3x, maybe.
And (if I am not mistaken) you have to sit at table with a person on your left and a person on your right and three other people right across the table. It stresses me out just thinking about it.
Yup, you are 100 correct, not in to becoming a software engineer and all that, however the problem is that now a-days vs back in the days there are weigh to many software engineers whether certified from a four year Graduate University and or self-learned in a TH-cam channel and such and such. So os, having written that, corporations may be hiring the employees that taught themselves software engineering over graduate software engineers that gradated from a four year institution (don’t want to pay extra for their graduate and hard work expertise), but either way experience and knowledge is what make an employee more valuable out of the many, under qualified and over qualified applicants out there. Furthermore, seems that too many individuals are working in a solution to the same problem and that can be conflicting, too. Regardless, excellent advice, I’ll hear you out in your next video, how difficult could be to own a company, specially if the owner is a software engineer, right? Things could get pretty interesting specially when one creates the next real popular Application, like an AI Application, those are real popular as we speak! 😺👩💻🥰✨💎
Frankly, I've never received free food (working in Germany so perhaps that's why LOL) but usually perks that give you the "opportunity" to stay at the office longer hours are a very sneaky way for employers to hold you and make you work longer hours. Think about what's better? Go out to a nearby café, buy a small lunch and enjoy it either there or at a park nearby or staying at the canteen in your company's building or worse - get it delivered to your desk, where you will be eating while probably working or engaging in talks with colleagues that are probably work-related.
How did all of this get changed? I mean, why did these changes happen? I got laid off this year so now I'm thinking maybe it was because i missed the memo on this? And i kept doing things the old way? Nobody told me about it and now I'm out. How were these changes communicated?
I find it interesting as a 45 year old who has been in software for 25 years that the only people who seem to complain about the dearth of jobs now are all under 30 (Not saying that's you Pooja, just making an observation in general) and began their careers during Covid; a singularly unique and unrepeatable time for pretty much all societies around the globe. There is an old concept of *paying your dues* and *putting in the work to build up experience* _before_ you get a massive payout. The tech job market has just become a bit more realistic and normalised that's all. Plenty of jobs out there but none for 200k for a comp sci grad who has done 200 Leetcode questions to perfection but has never sat down with a client to extract requirements from them or sat in a room with a group of hostile devs in a different company who you need to direct to get the job done. If you are being paid 200k a year you need to be generating 400k for the business.
Tech companies should be careful. I'm old enough to remember when there were not enough qualified developers. And tech jobs didn't pay that much. And these companies were struggling so hard. They could hire a janitor knowing how to start a computer. Now, we are lucky enough to have a pool and a constant flow of new devs. If companies reject them. They are smart enough to do something else. And when AI hype will stop and a new shortage of dev will begin. They will be in deep trouble.
Good then let them pay off the cahoots then when it happens. Shortsightedness is what is causing companies tech to become bad such as Crowdstrike for example.
im currentky taking my bachelors in computing science.. the skill sets kind of points towards a full stack developer. so i kind of get why the pay is high, but is it the same skillset required for software engineers?
Back in the late 1900s, my granfather worked on mainframes. With just a BS in robotics, he made a lot of money at first, but as expectations changed, his salaries dropped dramatically. Engineering skills like project management and business skills became must-haves, and many engineers had to adapt. With today's engineers, I see the same trend. While the pay is good, they don't want to pay us as much as they should. They would pay us peanuts if they could. In a nutshell, that's capitalism.
@@RunOs3 FMLLLLL yeah I know but.... hey man I was alive back then. I'm guessing you probably are young which is fine but reading LATE 1900's feels like reading LATE 1800's, bro I legit feel like a skeleton reading that LOL. You should say late 1900s in a room of people 30 yrs old and up and see what happens, they will all cry inside.
@@Indy-xd3cc my pops was just telling us about when he first got internet at his school in his computer lab because they had just invented it and how they got something called a CD with internet minutes in the mail.
The party in tech is over. Programmers in the future will get paid 50k per year. Now everyone is getting into content creation. The party will end here too.
Probably an APP while recording the video using the webcam or whatever camera she's using. In the editing software, she can use the audio recorded from the phone and use it in lieu of the audio from the video.
I was always jealous of the SWE, as a EE I didn’t land one. Decided to become a pilot when it was booming and now aviation is on a downturn as well. Can’t win! Still flying for now
I think the comparisons between 2020 and 2024 expectations are exaggerated. If you contributed a PR-worth of work once per week before and now can do 5 times as much, it would imply that either the AI tools are giving you a 500% boost or just maybe the productivity before was 20% of what it could've been. Copilot-like tools are helpful in terms of saving time reading docs, learning syntax and writing code (assuming you know *what* to needs to be written), but a 5x productivity increase is a bit too much. I think a more realistic explanation of how things have changed are related to the economy / amount of VC money available and how that means that employers expect more for the salaries they're paying. More experienced developers generally offer more value per month than juniors. Like any skill, having a mastery of applying fundamental principles is what wins the race.
Could you tell me where anyone can find remote job for Software Engineer who have skill and experience because not getting much money what they expect.
Is IT industry carrie is good to start with 23 Years old .I have around 1 years experience as software developer in dot NET technology with 15k salary in Kolkata.Should I continue or quit from this It Job ang start for government job preparation? please reply.
Do you find it hard to keep jobs for the majority of people? Do you know if many people keep failing over the years while staying in this job competition?
Idk every field is going to have crazy competition now, the economy sucks. Everyones been through a diploma mill and lacks real experience. I find more people in tech complain about the market as opposed to say marketing... Which has a lower threshold to break into and thus more competition. Love my tech bros and brahs and w.e else yall wanna go by but, let's not dwell on what ifs and instead understand focusing on one thing like software development whilst have 0 interpersonal skills is actually useless in business 99% of the times. Remember you have a better chance at being a professional athlete than starting a unicorn company or a brilliant new idea. Walk before you run.
Pooja, This is one of the most realistic perspectives on Software Engineering in 2024 I've heard from a TH-camr. You're doing an amazing job-keep it up!
I think what you describe is just getting out of the junior position. Having flex deadlines, pr every week and so on is just something thats tolarated for junior devs in my opinion. Welcome to the real job now I guess
the fact that people have to come out of their way to explain that work is supposed to feel like work in order to earn a good living (regardless if it's tens or hundreds of thousands a year) is just outrageous. people living in the first world have no right whatsoever to say times are hard
I get what you are saying but working in the tech industry for just money is actually the right thing. You could be working in any job and any job will be miserable after about 5 years of doing it but would you rather be working in the industry where you are bored and miserable for $20 an hour or Would you rather be working in an industry where you're miserable making $70 an hour?
Literally why I’m going back to school
If it were only that simple. If you’re only in it for the money with no passion behind it then good luck lol to be able to standout to even get into the field you’re gonna have to put in the WORK it’ll be much harder to do that without already having the passion for it
Because you have to actually be really really good. The people who can't stare at a screen every single day and code, and not only code, but learn new concepts and build high-grade projects, are not going to get a job. Now with the emergence of widely used LLMs, the need for SWE is dropping, and expecting it to open up back like how it was is naive. People who don't legitimately enjoy SWE are going to quit because being employed for years is depressing as hell.
Right! And she confirmed still worth it! If you’re gonna be a cog somewhere, might as well get pizaid😂
The really sad thing about this attitude is that it can have real world implications. If your code winds up being used in a medical device then your rotten attitude can kill people. Even something simple like writing inefficient code because you don't care and just want a paycheck can result in thousands of hours of wasted time pissing off users or wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars of electricity. If you're just writing code for a video game, then it probably doesn't matter, but any other application and you're better off not being in the industry.
I remember when $90k was a huge bump in salary and then a year later realized I was actually being underpaid lmao
Do you think it makes sense learning coding in 2024?
@@Aashutosh_Bajaj If you need to ask a random person in a TH-cam comments section this question I would advise you don't bother with it.
@@Etcherfr like just go for your passion😂
@@Aashutosh_Bajaj no do something else cs is dead
Wow whatever you said about expectations now are so accurate. AI won't replace SDE whereas SDE using AI for improved productivity will replace old SDEs
I don't understand why people say AI won't replace SDEs...when clearly it's just a matter of time.
Even if it just increases productivity, it will replace devs... you're high on copium.
From hiring 50 years in a multinational past year, to hiring only 10, all of them using ChatGPT
@@chrisrogers1092AI Will only replace SDE who don’t know how to use AI. And by the way, AI does not think nor is it innovative. An SDE has to tell it everything it needs to do and most often reiterate the actual objective numerous times.
@@derickshalo384 At this moment in time. Give it a couple of years. The progress over the last few years has been incredible.
Money is main reason for tech jobs. Passion wont pay your bills. Even if you're burn out, if the pay is good then your job is basically paying for your passion. Even if you hate the job at tech, its a lot better than going to the job that you love but pay a lot less. Maybe you can do that if your family is stable and they support you.
Me personally I can’t live like that why not get a job you’re passionate about and one to fuel your passion.
@@AbouFitness I agree with both sides tbh, cause like I want to pursue a career in animation but even though it CAN pay well it takes a lot of effort to make a very strong portfolio and they hire you based on experience as well. Plus pursuing your passion and turning it into your job might make you hate it, which is why people who are richer are usually the ones following their passions cause they don't have to worry about the pay, whereas other people do and have to sacrifice their passions for a higher paying job
In software development, the people who can get these FAANG "fun" and high-paid jobs, they should get them. But the current idea peddled that you should quit your job and get a new one at a whim cause a better one will just somehow fall on your lap... nothing is guaranteed. And if you don't find fulfilling work despite your genuine efforts, who cares. Not totally unrelated but it's like the proletyzation of entrepreneurship, all people should be aware that it's a path but everyone should be aware that not everyone makes the cut. For all Gen Z's ambition to do things their way (I'm Gen Z too), the ambitious / frustrated ones should just get in line.
If you don't have passion for software development you will make a terrible programmer. "Even if you hate the job at tech, its a lot better than going to the job that you love but pay a lot less" WAT??? spoken like a true dilettante haha
@@Etcher your passion wont pay your bills. Its either you're rich and doesnt know what it feels like to live in paycheck to paycheck or you're just a kid who's not in a real world yet. Lets see if you still love your "passion" work if you're only making $50k/year and doing overtime, renting, living alone, paying car and insurance. Good luck if you want to have family too. $50k is not even enough in today's inflation, let alone having a family and helping your parents.
Had a Meta recruiter get annoyed that I didn't want to move to the Bay Area, I guess a lot of people were saying no? Why's it gotta be onsite? Coders work better in their coding cave.
😂
@astral I can't help but laugh at you.
Whats wrong with bay area?@@Astral_Dusk
Bay Area isn't cheap
Because Zuckerbergs accountants are reminding him how much the mortgage on his campus are and we are not using it
this is a bunch of nonsense there’s no junior engineer making anywhere close to $500k even at FANG
I have heard lot of complaints about copilot. It is not "pretty much the expectation". Freshers who take this "co-pilot is the norm" will end up being dead-on-arrival
This video is only for entertaining... it has little truth to all of it in general.
Maybe it make sense for some "unicorn" world time line in few specific companies, but pretty much is empty talk just to post "interesting and controversial " video.
@@ishwarabhat Anybody who believes that AI is going to "10x their productivity" (whatever that means) is going to spend the next decade cleaning up 10x the tech debt that AI so kindly generated for them. Copilot is great for a quick prototype, replacing bad developers, and keeping me employed. Beyond that, it's garbage.
Quick advice for those who came because the thumbnail: SWE is science, is hard as hell and not for everybody and that's why you can make 6 figure (after years of experience, it will be not like that in the beginning), it's not a cashgrab, you don't get pay by typing stuff in a computer but to solve COMPLEX PROBLEMS, but if you love it then do it. If you're afraid about AI, It wont replace you, if you're smart enouigh it will be a tool that makes you more productive, just like frameworks and libraries does today.
Sorry folks, this video falls flat in terms of deeper details. This isn't an insult, but the problem here is that these perspectives are coming from someone who's career timeline for this industry started during the pandemic. How do they what's normal when what it was like before then wasn't directly realized and only heard of? The dumbest thing that was said was towards the end of the video:
"I know there's different levels to software engineering, but because new things come out so quickly, sometimes junior engineers are the expert." -- oh lord, how false this is. I'm not conflating "engineer that has been around for a while" for a solid principal engineer either, but there is a very clearly gap between engineers who know their stuff, that typically end up senior or principal at some point, and a junior engineer and it's not even close. A junior engingeer maybe has less than a week, maybe even two days before a senior engineer is going to be more productive with some new technology and outpace them exponentially from there in actually solving the problems at hand. And the senior engineer will have the capacity to more quickly see if a technology actually doesn't address or solve the problems needed. They can identify quickly if a tool matches what they need to do, and don't waste time fighting against a tool that wasn't right in the first place. They understand what new tools are capable of, and exploit it quickly. I don't know if I can explain it any better and quickly, but don't ever carry a "better than thou" attitude vs someone that senior unless they've very very demonstrably shown a lack of adjustability. That they don't know some API name isn't signs of ignorance, they know the same API in 3-4 other technologies in the last 5 years that do the same thing and the differences between them, and you know only the one. If you falsely think they are "worse" than you and do something that reveals that to them, or even others, you'll look the fool and that engineer will not want to work with you.
Next AI: sorry, if AI is a necessary tool in your job, then your job is doing something stupidly repetive and simple enough for a language model to see and repeat. If a company has a "proprietary" LLM for their own problems and repeated solutions, AI is an approach that could speed up productivity but it has a fatal flaw: code maintenance. An AI bootstrapping you with thousands of lines of code towards implementing something is great. When you take that, make edits to it to more precisely do what you need it to do, then create a pull-request for someone else to review, how efficient is it for that next engineer to have to dig through thousands of lines of code being assured of what your edits are versus the AI? Or do have to fully check the code then and there? That's were you lose time. The true solution for repetitiveness there is having your own code generator that models your problems and solutions as data, and then your code generator is essentially a solution data transformation into code that is generated at build time and never checked in. No one edits it, because if they do, it's instant maintenance nightmare. If someone wants to know what's up, they look no further than the model 99/100.
Also, get rid of the concept of a 10x engineer. Seniority and knowledge of your own companies tools, and approaches, and global "requirements", and sometimes just the power and influence to not be questioned and challenged what you are doing is what allows people to be 10x in certain spaces but not actually be that good of an engineer. If any engineer views themselves as 10x any level of competent engineer on their team, they should feel uncomfortable and immediately understand what the problem is and ideally identify it. "Why don't other members of the team know X/Y?" "Why aren't they able to make changes to these areas of the code where I am?" If they come to the conclusion "because I'm better" they're absolutely wrong. Standout engineers in teams I've been on are at best 2x the next, maybe 3x the next if they also put in very long hours and work in an area they are super familiar with and others just aren't. Some engineers that have appeared to be standouts in the past, but then you realize they are just holding onto simple information and not revealing their sources and methods that anyone else on the team could run.
Ok, my career started three decades ago. Went through all major bubbles. I agree that salaries are vastly overblown and correction is long overdue. More so, I'm eagerly waiting for this correction, to finally start growing the team. Holding off hiring until then. But that's the only thing I agree with in this video.
Thanks , it was very insightful.
I am at junior level. Some days i think i am a fool, other days I think i am onto something. :D
I like the take of AI vs data modeling service. Infact I don't really like using AI for the same purpose, but i think what i can explore is some data modeling tool to scaffold common parts of repetitive tasks.
Interesting points! I’d actually disagree with a lot of this - I’ve been in the industry for 8 years (before the pandemic) and I’ve seen juniors use certain tools and tech that a lot of principals may have not encountered before. Of course, it’s oversimplifying their technical prowess when it comes to system design, infrastructure, and “bigger picture” … but I many of the BEST lead and principal engineers had a growth mindset and learned from juniors many times. It’s a bit short sighted to think about in a Hierarchal view.
Secondly, AI should 100% be used as a tool. I use it every day. Every single day. My job is definitely not repetitive 😉 you don’t need to swear by it, but use it as a sounding board to ask questions back and forth. You always need to verify things, but it’s made me a much faster developer. Others fall behind when they don’t utilize it. When the internet first became commercialized, you wouldn’t tell people not to use it to do their jobs due to … their job being receptive? Doesn’t make a whole let of sense to me.
Again, good points, and maybe this is just anecdotal on both of our parts! We’ve probably had different experiences, and don’t necessary align on em’ !
@@PoojaDutt Who said anything about a hierarchy? I'm sure you've experienced someone more senior being toxic, or maybe even a peer who is toxic towards another peer who isn't more senior, but that has nothing to do with this. People in software engineering can be obnoxious; and a prinicpal software engineer can be wrong in a particular context or situation, even if they are still 'better" than a junior engineer pretty much always. The fact that you keep stressing who knows or can use what tool is already an invalidating point on this issue. If you're a proper principal in a space, you're at a level where you've used just about every type of tool that matters even if you haven't touched every brand. So that some junior comes up and knows the latest and greatest tool "well" that a principal doesn't know only matters if someone gave them a hackathon project to show off something in 24 hours. Give it a week or probably even less and that gap isn't only erased, the junior clearly won't know when the tool has hit a limit and can't do something required; or they needs to go far deeper to get the tool to do something it doesn't do "for free" and are unable to. Any sensible project that needs to go to production for a non-trivial problem will do this.
The point about AI is probably hard agree to disagree. You simply didn't read what I wrote or address any of it, and just went off and said the most bland of things. Why that is...I'm not sure, yet.
Honestly, I deleted much of what I wrote because I'm getting vibes of someone who's talking way louder than whatever actual credentials exist.
Welcome to the age of misinformation and spam 🍿
I think I am one of those that is in this industry for all the wrong reasons. I was basically “pushed” into this by my parents because “it makes good money”. However, no one ever told me the amount of work it would take to actually stand out enough to get an internship. The competition is insane. The LeetCode part is the one I despise. And I’ve never done personal projects for the fun of it.
I wonder if I should change careers as I go. I’m gonna take a course on Computer Graphics this semester and I hope that ignites a passion I never knew. All I loved about computers was doing things with the software itself; not make the software. Video Editing, AutoCAD, Blender, you name it. But CG is something I always loved about computers. We’ll see. But great and detailed video highlighting the realities of this career.
working hard is a good thing. Try some things out and see if you have a passion for something else. Given tech is highly paid, i would work on reducing your monthly expenses to give you the power to make a jump in the future if you need to.
@@Scott_Stern That sounds like a decent plan! I'm gonna commit and try this CG route and start over on programming to see if I can do something with it and find a passion. Otherwise, I suppose I can do what you mentioned. I'm still in university so I hope I still have time.
@@fortimusprime Im 30....all you have is time. Theres going to be things you dont like in every job you do. Unless you do it just out of pure enjoyment and not for money
@@Scott_Stern agreed. Thanks for sharing that insight. I’m only 20. I guess I still don’t realize just how young I still am. I’m now understanding that a job is a job and like you say, there will be things I dislike in every job, but that’s why I’ll get paid. I’m hoping to find some enjoyment in programming as I’m seeking to find something that ignites that interest in me. But your words truly do help. So, thank you for sharing!
@@fortimusprime is CG a good career?
To be honest, being a software engineer is probably one of the easiest jobs I've ever had. Once you've put in 10k hours, it gets easier from there. The catch is you gotta be obsessed with what you do most people do it for the money but for some of us its pretty much our lives so at some point its not work it's just another interesting problem to solve. The hardest part is office politics. Personally, the fewer people gatekeeping, the better. Practice being more like an opensouce project. Prod support should also get used to trying different solutions because that's pretty much the bread and butter in software dev
I'm definitely into software engineering. I'm introvert and would love to work on my own but I know that meetings are a process to and that I don't mind. I've been working in a field where I deal with people on a nonstop basis. At the moment, I'm on a short term disability and doing some video tutorials on coding with HTML and CSS and I love the fact that I'm home alone and not at work. I'm still working on these videos and love it. It's frustrating at times when a code don't work but I love solving the problem. As long as I make more than what I'm making now I'll be happy.
glad you found engineering. Be careful though, software engineering is a skill. Doing it at a company that pays well if definitely a team sport and youre dealing with people NON STOP.
One of the reasons I've staying in a Bank since 2020 making $350K (with an equal annual bonus), while my batchmates are in MAANG making $500-$700K, was because of peace of mind.
Never seen anyone from tech team laid off in these 4 years, tech stack is decent, management keeps encouraging us to experiment and innovate stuff, and enough paid leaves.
They keep saying i have no aspirations but all these times, especially in the current market, I realised that the best way to beat the matrix is to not play it at all.
Having a stable 9-5 with good tech stack has it's perks over the hustle culture of volatile, but highly paid positions in MAANG
what teh=ch stack?and how to get selected in a bank
@@shubhamrana1022 it's an American big4 bank.
Tech for me is mostly backend - java 17, Micronaut, SQL server, Cassandra, mongodb, goLang and some frameworks, elastic search, S3, REST HTTP1 but mostly it's gRPC with HTTP2.
Sometimes I do a bit of react and typescript, but rarely.
you realize 350K is a lot of money, right?
@@shubhamrana1022Java based languages and functional programming too. Microservices architecture and cloud computing.
@@TheEnsakzit's not that much in a large American city
Great video, you are one of the lucky ones. At 46 years old i think i may clear 100k as a developer in software security (dev-sec-ops).
Thank you! I think I’ve heard that of others who started earlier in the industry, I bet the next generation will make even more if we continue to have rapid inflation
@@PoojaDutt You can have even more if you go to Argentina
The later part of video, where you bring value was always true since day1, that's how unix/linux/mac happened. If you don't see excitement in evolving tech, then those guys are not welcome...
How is a developer in software security the same as DevSecOps? Isn’t DevOps the bridge between development and operations? How are you DevOps as a just a developer?
You sir are rediculously under paid. If you are certified I would seriously look elsewhere after you gain 3 years experience. Well I agree, young kids shouldn't get paid 100k+ without experience it is a different matter after a decade with a speciality in security or dev ops. I think y ou are a perfect example of being paid 135K or more for your skills and experience
I want to be a computer engineer and I know it won’t be pretty, but I feel like it’s better then a lot of other industries
Ok for those who think that these people make 500k, let me tell you their true base salary isn't gonna be 300k,400k, or 500k. What I think Pooja leaves out is that these "salaries" are using a combo of RSUs(restricted stock units), bounses and their salary. To truly see how much they make per year just ask their base not their total compensation
Base is at most $250k but thats still a lot of money.
I mean, every year, around 100k to 130k People graduate with a Comp-Sci degree across US, and another 30k to 35k People do a Bootcamp certificate. So as a new graduate, you are competing with like 130k to 165k People for a Tech Job. And right now, the Economy is very bad, especially for entry level folks who are just starting their career.
Thats pretty good considering its a bachelors prepared position...and competition isnt even that bad to get into the program in college...i had to get a masters in my field to earn the same amount you earn as an entry level position...
Kamala economy brah. im voting trump, i need to pay my mortgage
@@engineking777shes not even president yet
Honestly yeah, sadly this gives a bad to rep actual engineers. Folks being in an environement like this is demanding, sometime long hours debbuging something or refactoring some code. It takes time and a lot of effort is not all about vacations and do nothing at the office.
Yupp, exactly freshers think it's all shallow until they keep their feet in
Dang most US remote jobs don’t allow you to work outside the country
She knows the algorithm
Agreed she is clever
Technically, the algorithm knows her
Thumbnail 💀
glad someone said that
That's what matters ... not recessions
You are such an awesome storyteller, Pooja! Love the video ❤
@@SundasKhalid aww thank you Sundas! 😊
Thank you for the advice. As a newbie in the industry and just getting my first internship opportunity as a software developer, what do you recommend to help me stand a chance of being offered a full time position and how to get better at problem solving and becoming an asset to the company?
I would say that it’s a numbers game (part of it) apply to as many positions as you can and try to have all the requirements and “nice to haves” from the job description in your resume (you’re now competing with people who have been laid off by big tech companies as well)
@@PoojaDutt You also answered me here - thanks! :)
I wish we could change the conversation from everyone saying go into tech because you love it not just for the money, when that's the only engineering field that people say that to. I work with Civil, and mechanical engineers and they all chose it because of job security not because of their passion for constructing roads. My advice, go into something that you find interesting enough to pursue, will pay you well, and won't leave you feeling burned out all the time. You can do either or both, up to you!!
Im a front end dev im a very visual / hands on interactive person. Im 24 and doing a post bacc in computer engineering because I want to go in to embbeded software engineering or PCB design. I dont want to work in just back end or front end. Im getting tired of having to just learn another framework every 6 months.
Hey, thats kinda neat. I'm in the same position, graduated with a math degree but I want to go back to school to learn more. When you say post-bacc are you referring to another bachelor's program or are you doing a masters? Let me know, I'm very much the same, interested in doing hands-on things.
Loved the toss at 9:24. Well done Pooja.
😂😂😂
Pretty accurate. I am sure we will see a lot of money chasers leaving the industry. It's actually good, I have been in the industry for over 10 years and the quality of leetcoding, money focused bad engineers has really made it less enjoyable. Not saying that money isn't important, but we are engineers with an eye on quality and craftsmanship.
Some current themes are layoffs and the tough entry/openings...
Long term i hope things will correct themselves with the market.
Also the trend is the return of standard in office work days so I'm not too hopeful that hybrid or remote shall be as common.
Do you have statistics about people who give up before and after entering the market? How many, which stage, level of experience, what they do now? And about people who plan to give up ? Do you know if it exists? Also, are there similar 2018 appealing trends in other domains?
Be a software engineer , anyways , who ever wants to - just takes some time , and some patience , be an eager beaver Nice video presentation btw . it was good , fast to the point.
Oh, oh, oh. With AI you still 10x your bugs, not productivity. Copilot is still a mess except the one thing: A well known algorithm that you do not need to write over and over again. But that is not really 10x, more like semi-automatic 3x, maybe.
totally agreed Techbro only showing the happy luxury side on social media
Hey, at 0:28 you say you were living in Greece? Where? Are you still visiting Greece?
lol at 5:12 when an instrumental jazz version of Jingle Bells kicked in
And (if I am not mistaken) you have to sit at table with a person on your left and a person on your right and three other people right across the table. It stresses me out just thinking about it.
Ha ha, I worked a contract at Nike in Beaverton with that exact configuration. They got rid of me right quick.
@@nschul4 😀😄😄
Do you still think getting into to tch by self learning and/or going to a bootcamp is still viable?
Not you using me as the bad example LMAOO 😂
was going to that point that out 🤣in your villian arc I see
Yup, you are 100 correct, not in to becoming a software engineer and all that, however the problem is that now a-days vs back in the days there are weigh to many software engineers whether certified from a four year Graduate University and or self-learned in a TH-cam channel and such and such. So os, having written that, corporations may be hiring the employees that taught themselves software engineering over graduate software engineers that gradated from a four year institution (don’t want to pay extra for their graduate and hard work expertise), but either way experience and knowledge is what make an employee more valuable out of the many, under qualified and over qualified applicants out there. Furthermore, seems that too many individuals are working in a solution to the same problem and that can be conflicting, too. Regardless, excellent advice, I’ll hear you out in your next video, how difficult could be to own a company, specially if the owner is a software engineer, right? Things could get pretty interesting specially when one creates the next real popular Application, like an AI Application, those are real popular as we speak! 😺👩💻🥰✨💎
Frankly, I've never received free food (working in Germany so perhaps that's why LOL) but usually perks that give you the "opportunity" to stay at the office longer hours are a very sneaky way for employers to hold you and make you work longer hours. Think about what's better? Go out to a nearby café, buy a small lunch and enjoy it either there or at a park nearby or staying at the canteen in your company's building or worse - get it delivered to your desk, where you will be eating while probably working or engaging in talks with colleagues that are probably work-related.
How did all of this get changed? I mean, why did these changes happen? I got laid off this year so now I'm thinking maybe it was because i missed the memo on this? And i kept doing things the old way? Nobody told me about it and now I'm out. How were these changes communicated?
That thumbnail is for getting views! Great idea!
Exactly......... 😂
Centre 😂
😂😂
And you still there from where you left.
@@pocketsfullofdynamite fr
I am trying my best, well I know what I am doing, so not trying, to create a bunch of code to remove manual steps, and checks that people got to do.
You forgot to mention that there were lockdowns in 2020, which contributed to remote work and chaotic market changes temporarily.
8:34 anyone know the link to the full interview for the girl wearing blue? it would be nice to see the wholw interview
Hi, what AI tools are you talking about, can i get an exact list of them that are in demand?
I find it interesting as a 45 year old who has been in software for 25 years that the only people who seem to complain about the dearth of jobs now are all under 30 (Not saying that's you Pooja, just making an observation in general) and began their careers during Covid; a singularly unique and unrepeatable time for pretty much all societies around the globe. There is an old concept of *paying your dues* and *putting in the work to build up experience* _before_ you get a massive payout. The tech job market has just become a bit more realistic and normalised that's all. Plenty of jobs out there but none for 200k for a comp sci grad who has done 200 Leetcode questions to perfection but has never sat down with a client to extract requirements from them or sat in a room with a group of hostile devs in a different company who you need to direct to get the job done. If you are being paid 200k a year you need to be generating 400k for the business.
@@Etcher agreed! We had a false sense of “superiority” leading up to and during Covid, but in reality, it’s just a job like any other (:
Tech companies should be careful. I'm old enough to remember when there were not enough qualified developers. And tech jobs didn't pay that much.
And these companies were struggling so hard. They could hire a janitor knowing how to start a computer.
Now, we are lucky enough to have a pool and a constant flow of new devs. If companies reject them. They are smart enough to do something else. And when AI hype will stop and a new shortage of dev will begin. They will be in deep trouble.
Good then let them pay off the cahoots then when it happens. Shortsightedness is what is causing companies tech to become bad such as Crowdstrike for example.
I thought this was very accurate and insightful. I’ve been in data science/analytics for a few years and have noticed a similar trend.
im currentky taking my bachelors in computing science.. the skill sets kind of points towards a full stack developer. so i kind of get why the pay is high, but is it the same skillset required for software engineers?
Back in the late 1900s, my granfather worked on mainframes. With just a BS in robotics, he made a lot of money at first, but as expectations changed, his salaries dropped dramatically. Engineering skills like project management and business skills became must-haves, and many engineers had to adapt. With today's engineers, I see the same trend. While the pay is good, they don't want to pay us as much as they should. They would pay us peanuts if they could. In a nutshell, that's capitalism.
bro.... not, "The late 1900s" slander PLEASE BRO STOPPPPP 😭😭
@@Indy-xd3cc but it was the late 1900s tho
@@RunOs3 FMLLLLL yeah I know but.... hey man I was alive back then. I'm guessing you probably are young which is fine but reading LATE 1900's feels like reading LATE 1800's, bro I legit feel like a skeleton reading that LOL. You should say late 1900s in a room of people 30 yrs old and up and see what happens, they will all cry inside.
@@Indy-xd3cc my pops was just telling us about when he first got internet at his school in his computer lab because they had just invented it and how they got something called a CD with internet minutes in the mail.
The party in tech is over. Programmers in the future will get paid 50k per year.
Now everyone is getting into content creation. The party will end here too.
Even people with a million subs only clear about 60k a year
Great! i get paid 13k USD a year anyways.
cope harder bro
@plaidchuck Not bad. Beats having to stare at boring code hours and hours.
you misspelled whether.
Thank you for such a brilliant information ❤
I'm new. What is a PR? I know in workouts it's personal record. What is it in tech?
@@theupwardspiral1580 pull request! (When you merge code into a shared repository on your team, others have to approve that code first)
@@PoojaDutt ohhhh okay thanks.
First money .. then problem solving .. finally WFH perks
How do you use mobile phone as microphone and do you use any filter for clear sound it's really awesome.
Probably an APP while recording the video using the webcam or whatever camera she's using. In the editing software, she can use the audio recorded from the phone and use it in lieu of the audio from the video.
I like your videos coz I always get something "let me stick to my dream of becoming a Software Engineer"
I was always jealous of the SWE, as a EE I didn’t land one. Decided to become a pilot when it was booming and now aviation is on a downturn as well. Can’t win! Still flying for now
Thanks for the video with *** Transparency***Took me 3 years after college to land a developer role.. network+ training new skills.. 😊
when did Chicago become a european city?
Greece.
I think the comparisons between 2020 and 2024 expectations are exaggerated. If you contributed a PR-worth of work once per week before and now can do 5 times as much, it would imply that either the AI tools are giving you a 500% boost or just maybe the productivity before was 20% of what it could've been. Copilot-like tools are helpful in terms of saving time reading docs, learning syntax and writing code (assuming you know *what* to needs to be written), but a 5x productivity increase is a bit too much.
I think a more realistic explanation of how things have changed are related to the economy / amount of VC money available and how that means that employers expect more for the salaries they're paying. More experienced developers generally offer more value per month than juniors. Like any skill, having a mastery of applying fundamental principles is what wins the race.
Could you tell me where anyone can find remote job for Software Engineer who have skill and experience because not getting much money what they expect.
Nothing NEW happens in this wolrd for those who know the history of civilizaton
Can someone just tell me a summary of this video please?
My internet connection sucks.
6:31 but money is not what im looking at im looking at humanity and the right of people to say no to invasion of their life There family
mam your opinion on software testing field will it sustain
Is IT industry carrie is good to start with 23 Years old .I have around 1 years experience as software developer in dot NET technology with 15k salary in Kolkata.Should I continue or quit from this It Job ang start for government job preparation? please reply.
Love your videos, very informing and your sense of humor is 👍👍👍.
This video made me want to pursue software engineering more!!
Hi my wife looking site ware job but she didn't find yet after 1 year if you know some think please help
Good video, I esp. agree with the points made towards the end of the video. You should get into tech if you're intrinsically motivated to do so.
Do you find it hard to keep jobs for the majority of people? Do you know if many people keep failing over the years while staying in this job competition?
Can I find online job as a software engineering job? Because my major is software engineering
Idk every field is going to have crazy competition now, the economy sucks. Everyones been through a diploma mill and lacks real experience. I find more people in tech complain about the market as opposed to say marketing... Which has a lower threshold to break into and thus more competition. Love my tech bros and brahs and w.e else yall wanna go by but, let's not dwell on what ifs and instead understand focusing on one thing like software development whilst have 0 interpersonal skills is actually useless in business 99% of the times. Remember you have a better chance at being a professional athlete than starting a unicorn company or a brilliant new idea.
Walk before you run.
Just give me my little cave and my house and lemme make some good money and the hours staring at code vs dealing with the public lol
Are the smartest top developers transitioning into business owners and becoming entrepreneurs?
That resonated with me!! Also a UW-Madison grad :) You look phenominal in Red btw! Thanks!!
I miss 2011 software engineering life ❤
Pooja what is this behavior?
All points you raised make sense to me 👏
AI tools might be useful in certain areas, but I have yet to get anything useful code-wise out of them in the areas I work in.
Summary: If you are not passionate about SWE then GTFO, don't waste your time and other peoples time just because of the TC
Perfect title to the video.
Thank you
All based on your opnion! Of course
Pooja,
This is one of the most realistic perspectives on Software Engineering in 2024 I've heard from a TH-camr. You're doing an amazing job-keep it up!
Thanks for the kind words ☺️
Honestly software engineering sounds like my thing even after this video.
The thing is that if you can get in, you probably do like to do it to some extent. Otherwise, you would not have been so good at it.
0:40 European City?
Chicago? You mean the city that was founded by an Afro French Haitian. 😂 that’s in North America.
7:42 this sounds like the normal amount of effort in any job...were yall just coasting?
I think what you describe is just getting out of the junior position. Having flex deadlines, pr every week and so on is just something thats tolarated for junior devs in my opinion. Welcome to the real job now I guess
1:43 That dictionary definition of a tech-bro is too accurate 🤣🤣🤣
Do we call a female version of a tech-bro a tech-sis?
Great video as always and so true !
This video is stating these differences as if it's acceptable fact
Well detailed Video. is this the case for Machine Learning Engineers and Data Scientists as well???
Thank you! I’m not as well versed with machine learning but I’d imagine it’s definitely more lucrative right now
Do you still do it or are you heading out of this profession?
Great Video ! ✅✅ Explained a lot to me
Could you share points on the market situation in Germany?
Stay in india. You dislike our way of life anyway.
thanks di that gave some clarity!
repeat(3,wrong);
the fact that people have to come out of their way to explain that work is supposed to feel like work in order to earn a good living (regardless if it's tens or hundreds of thousands a year) is just outrageous. people living in the first world have no right whatsoever to say times are hard
4-5 PRs from 1 due to AI is one dumb statement. AI has been useful but not 5x useful