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This is the simplest question to answer, you clearly respect us and the country, we do the same to you and your birthplace too. thats all there is to it. we only judge people from the bad things they do. who you are and where you are from dont matter, its what you do and say , and think of others what matters
Chico, guys like you will never have any problem living in here. You have a good and kind attitude, with respecting and being honest to others. We don’t have to see you as same color, because more importantly we see you and learn to know you as equal. Mutually earned respect is one of our virtues.
Greetings from Germany. Love this video man. You thoughts seem very genuine und authentic. It's good that you point out the simple things in everyday of life as a foreigner in Finland. 👌 I think it's important to know what could happend, when someone decide to move and live abroad.
One should never be concerned about the Finnish language, Finns admit it's a very difficult language to learn but are more than happy to speak English once they understand you also speak the language. It has been my experience, and pleasure, to know that many, many Finnish people speak an excellent level of English. Probably a better level than I do. My wife was born and raised in Finnish Lapland, quite a remote area now with a rapidly dwindling population, just a scattering of elderly living in the complete silence of the nature with the ghosts of their memories. It's a world that is gradually disappearing. For me personally, there's a complete sense of freedom. Particularly so during the long winter months which I absolutely adore. Summer isn't really my cup of tea because the air is filled with creatures that either want to burn, sting or bite you. As a Yorkshire lad, I have found, much to my disappointment, These creatures never leave me alone. They must think I'm exotic food. I'm so relieved the season is short.
Yeah, summer is the worst season here. I've lived in Finland all my life, 40 years now. And I do think that a colder and shorter summer might be okay, but I think it's gotten too long and too hot too maybe. Autumn and spring are kinda great, but in springtime, especially in southeast Finland, you better be careful when you move in the woods, bear just woken up from winter sleep might get you there. But I don't know if it ever happens these days.
Only animal in finnish nature you need to worry about is moose. Aka murdercow. Bears and wolfs will hear you and smell you and bail long before you get to see them.
For 3 years now I always look here at TH-cam about Finland i just like watching and because I am dreaming to visit it one day . I’m 43 and starting to save to visit the country as a tourist. Maybe 2 years from now. Love, phılıppınes
Did I understand right ? You went to People in their homes - to ask someone to give money ? - You werent told - that IT IS againgt The LAW ? Someone IS using - newcomers to breake The Law ? - If I got You wrong - Please let me know ?
We splurged on national debt for a while so it's going to get cold for a lot of people. Not too happy about the current government coalition but it's a stick that was coming our way. I think a lot of Finns are happy to have anyone in who at least tries to assimilate to the culture to some degree and works hard.
If the previous government were re-elected, they might have kept borrowing for additional 4 years, but after that, it would have been really gruesome compared to the plans of current govt.
Bro, greetings from SA! Thanks for making a video like this, it's really helping me to come to a decision on where to eventually work, study and integrate and hearing it from a Saffa is dope and deeply reassuring :) Great video 💯
Have You tasted - salmiakki - yet ? There are several Videos on TH-cam - many tasted salmiakki for The very 1st time ! #2 Have You ever heard about Our National Game - called Finnish Baseball - PESÄPALLO in Our language ! There are several TH-camrs that has made The Sport - More known - than some have seen IT - thru ITs - over 100 year history ! One American has More that two million - 2.000.000 likes - Even He has never seen The game Alive ! #3 Ice hockey is the Biggest Sport - in Finland ! Finland has The most NHL players at ( 32 Teams that 7 in Canada ) ! Helsinki has HIFK - and JOKERIT - 50 / 50% of supporyers ! Black but Finnish - stands for salmiakki !
I agree 100 percent with you. I have been here for almost 10 years. I am still trying to master this language, but that is just the nature of the beast. I am happy here, a defender of critics of Finland, and I have no plans to leave this wonderful place that has been so wonderful to me ... including giving me a wonderful husband!
I had doubts about moving to Finland but your video has made me to fall in love with the country. I hope that one day, I get to share similar experiences
Many like salmiakki ? There are several TH-camrs making salmiakki more known ! M There are so many that has never heard of salmiakki ! Thanks to TH-cam - everybody wants to taste !
@@ThomasGMcElwain What happened ? Everybody IS asking - What happened ? What was so diffycult to learn to cope with ? You didn't like sauna ? You didnt like salmiakki ? You didnt - learn The LANGUAGE ? Please let us jnow - did You just know the wrong kind of People ?
@@holoholopainen1627 What happened? I made the mistake of thinking that Finns were like people everywhere else. As a gesture of good will, I translated W. Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret, a historical text, should not offend anyone, all 10,000 rhymed lines of it. When no one bothered much about it for five years, I thought all was well. Then suddenly all hell broke loose and I became pariah for daring to commit an act of cultural kindness. So may Herattaja Yhdistys and everyone associated with it stuff it.
@@ThomasGMcElwain You are not talking about PEKKA SIITOIN - are You ? Please learn some of His values before telling us - that You were treated BAD ! Some People knew HIM - but did You ? Please Dont get involved with something - that You have no knowledge of ?
I think Finnish people TRULY appreciate just honest ,hard work.............we don't care what you do as long as you work and be part of society.thank. you for bringing spark to our dark winters.you are fresh air 👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍😀
You do not appreciate honest, hard work. Then why has all of the public response to my kind and friendly gesture of translating W. Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret into English only sparked hostility?
Finnish people don't even appreciate themselves, much less foreigners, and much less foreigners who learn their language, work hard, and pay taxes. The nicer you are to them, the faster they will stab you in the back.
I don't really have much to say, but gotta keep that algorithm happy, eh? Anyways, you seem like just the kind of imigrant any country would be glad to get, so I'm happy you chose Finland :) These kind of things are always complicated and weird, and I think pretty much every country struggles with them at least a bit. Finland's main thing is that we just want to live in our little corner of the world in peace... And that's pretty much it. Sometimes that comes out as "leave me alone!" and sometimes as "eh, whatever. you do you, I'll do me". I feel like you have got the hang of that pretty well, and for the language... You know, just go "noniin", and you're pretty much golden!
As an American Black woman from the USA who have dated two Finnish men and one Danish man, I have visited several times and personally respect and love the Scandinavian Nordic countries except for the extreme cold weather but I do love sauna culture:) I've had a sauna in my home for a long time because of my experience with the Scandinavian Nordic culture and its people. I even enjoy Hygge from Denmark. I also get it when you said that you realized everything was in a different language. This is called culture shock. I experienced this when my then Finn/Swed boyfriend and I were walking to the store. I was looking at the signs and noticed that none of the words were in English. I bursted out and started crying for about two-three minutes then I was good. I personally feel those Scandinavian Nordic countries have done it correctly! I met my first Finnish boyfriend when he came to the USA as a University professional tennis player at a neighboring University. He opened my world to a whole new global perspective when it came to dating. He was kind, genuine, spoke several languages, extremely intelligent, fit, adventurous, a sense of humor, and just a great guy:) He went back to get his MBA but we stayed in touch for a long time as friends. He is now in east Asia and is doing extremely well. He still inspires me to do well! I met my next Finnish boyfriend when I lived in a Honors(high GPA)/ Upperclassmen/ International Educational Exchange student dormitory where both genders resided the following year. He's Finnish(actually he's half-Finnish and half-Swedish) but grew up with in Finland. He's the reason I visited Finland(including Lapland and northern Sweden). Another great guy who actually asked me to marry him. I met his entire family and most were wonderful except female cousin who lives in Lapland. His other female cousin who lives in Helsinki is so awesome! I often think if I had accepted his proposal, we would be next door neighbors and raised our children together while watching old episodes of Sex and The City, travelling as families, creating wonderful memories, and all of us growing older together:) I still care for him but more like family now. After him, I met a wonderful Danish guy when he came to the USA to work for a Danish company operating in the USA. We met in an affluent neighborhood. I looked up and thought to myself, 'Who is That'? as a Michael Jackson song was playing in the background:) We danced all night and began dating:) We were both two young well-educated professionals enjoying our lives. I've had wonderful experiences and know that their government believes in investing in their citizens. I could also tell that they came from Families who took care and invested in them as well. I personally feel it's not the responsibility of another country(super wealthy Western country) to take care of people who choose to flee to another country instead of fighting to make their own country sustainable and a great place to live. Even moving from South Africa to Finland is a win-win for you honestly because those Scandinavian Nordic countries believe in equality, they're great people with low crime and low corruption. I personally fee, l they should be extremely cautious about allowing foreign people into their country. The USA is the wealthiest country but invites people from all over the world as International Educational Exchange students and on Work Visas. People are allowed to enter the USA as Green Card Holders when a foreign person is dating, soon to marry an American. The USA is extremely diverse but immigration must be done correctly and there's no 'confusion' in that. The USA is currently dealing with an influx of unskilled unwanted people from non-Western countries and that's not a good thing! The sudden influx of people to the USA isn't an isolated occurrence but is happening throughout The West and a lot of people from super wealthy Western countries including the Scandinavian Nordic countries have experienced or observed negative behavior from new arrivals(illegal and legals) and have grown frustrated with these new people's unwillingness to assimilate, hostility, tribalism, passive aggressiveness, trying to sabotage or gaslight you, their negative cultural views on women, extreme religious ideologies, the native population taxpayer's money going for benefits to illegal and even new legal arrives while some native people aren't receiving these benefits. I think this is why there has been a 180 degree change on immigration throughout The West. Even I use to love all these new people arriving because I thought they were like the International Educational Exchange students from my dormitory and like the phenomenal Scandinavian Nordic guys that I dated but most are not. I know currently South Africans are complaining about an influx of neighboring Africans immigrating to South Africa for jobs or as economic refugees. I think all native population want to be respected and not take care of adults( foreign men/women and children) who should take care of themselves by their countries of origin while new arrivals assimilate and add positively to that new country. If you do decide to come to the USA legally the road to citizenship is a extremely long and difficult process with lots of money required. Across The West the native population are calling for massive deportation to occur. Will this happen? I'm unsure🇺🇸
@@brunovilela4219Yes, especially if it's the first time you left the USA to visit a non-speaking English country. . When growing up in the USA everything was in English. One of my high school math teachers was from India but he and she family spoke English. My first experience with people outside the USA were the International Educational Exchange students who lived in my Upperclassmen/Honors(high grade point averages or Grades), and International students. I even asked, 'Where are you guys from'? They told me but I didn't realize these International students were the Elites of where they came from. I thought all Europeans were of a certain caliber or high Standard so I tended to gravitate towards Internationas who remind me of my fellow dormitory mates and ex-boyfriends. I remember watching the UK show Eastenders or the first time. I thought those are certainly not the people stayed in my dormitory. My first International boyfriend was a professional tennis player from Finland at a USA University near my University. He's a phenomenal guy and he still inspires me. My next boyfriend was Danish that I met after University. I knew he was from Europe at one glance. I remember looking up and thought, ' Who is that'? In a Good way. Turns out he also is from one of those Elite European Families. A English guy I dated as well. Elite as well. There's just unspoken social cues. He attended the same Boarding School as Harry and William. Attended Oxford throughout and graduated with a PhD in the Sciences and Philosophy. He came to the USA with a fellowship at a USA and stayed. My last companion and Great Friend was German. Was a Professor in many countries, authored many books and peer reviewed articles, lectured at various Conferences and top ranked Universities all over the world. He passed away recently but our relationship lasted for twelve years. Each asked me to marry them at one point. They all are extremely learned, spoke English fluently, from great Families but so am I. Maybe I should have accepted one of their proposals or allowed Love fully but there's something about enjoying life for yourself and having a certain level of Independence. I will say they still inspire me along with all those International Educational Exchange students who made a positive impact on my life and encouraged me to travel outside of the USA. I took Spanish in high school and Undergrad but it's not the same as visiting a non-English speaking country for yourself. My positive experience with the International Educational Exchange students and now boyfriends and International friends inspired me to see the world for myself. As a result, my entire family began traveling internationally❤
Current government is not harsh only for immigrants but also poor and part time jobbers making their life also more difficult, soon is better to be at home with benefits than try to make at least some job. I don't understand this new way what is coming
i am honestly on the same boat as you about the new government. it has been nothing but an embarrassing, confusing mess and this is just the beginning of their 4 yrs. not only do they want to attack immigrants, but poor people as well who all try their best to live a good life.
Seems like you haven’t read the government white paper on immigration, which aims to increase immigration overall. The 3 month limit to find a new job is slightly embarrassing, as are the True Finns idiots. Having said that, the largest embarrassment recently has been the quality of Finnish journalism. How are the poor being attacked, or do you mean the unemployed?
Lovely content 👌 More of “how Finland change you” I live I sweden a very different language but same same in many ways. Sweden and Finland are brothers 👌
I have lived in both Sweden and Finland. Yes, they are closer than brother, more like two sides of the same person: Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. Finland is Mr Hyde. I cannot praise Sweden highly enough in my experience. Actually, I got along well in the five other countries I have lived in. Finland is the only one I cannot find words enough to condemn. It is absolute hell.
@@ThomasGMcElwainHave You ever heard of Pekka Siitoin ? Are You talking about HIM ? No wonder You were treated like - You were ? Please - check WHO He was - berore yelling us that You are on The Right side !
@@holoholopainen1627 You are not much different from Pekka Siitoin yourself. Finns are now and always the most Jew-hating people in the world, along with their Baltic cousins.
"they all looked like milk but I just didn't know what the actual milk was" I laughed so hard at this 😂 so honest and can totally relate knowing any supermarket from here.
What irritates me as someone that lived for the last 40+ years in Finland is that Xenophobia is seen as racism. Like look how we sit in busses, we do not like to share space with strangers. Someone then coming from the outside here demanding that I should respect their culture but calls mine racist. That makes me boil because since a child I was thought that you take the culture according to where you go, you never demand that the other culture should adjust to yours. I was born here and this is my home, the other one coming here always has the option not to come here because they have already left their home. I have many good experiences with foreigners but I also have many bad ones. Elderly people are usually wiser so they know not to demand me to change who I am. I have met nice foreigners that only came here for benefits and I do understand that someone chosing between loosing their eye sight or move to another country to keep it will probably chose the better option even if it means that they will leech on the system because their injury makes em unable to contribute. I do not like the freeloaders that comes here and thinks its their right to leech and bad jobs are below them. I still remember when a muslim sat on TV and demanded that we should build a "whatever that shouting tower is" in Finland because its their right. He just forgot that its every finns right not to be awaken by a religion in a country that ain't even religious. It was a fun experience when I went to Turkiye as a tourist to experience their culture, but having one close to me and I would tear it down. Same with allowing foreign cultures do things that not even I am allowed to do, creates only anger within people. That all said: It's not really the personal fault of one foreigner, in reality it's the fault of the leaders trying to appease foreigners instead of showing a firm hand "If you move here then you live like us and you do like us", you are free to be yourself as long as it doesn't collide with our rules and laws. Now they change laws to appease em and try to create a fake picture. We are Xenophobes that forces you to earn our trust and best way to do it is to work hard and be honest. Like I still respect the Russian from work because he was honest and worked hard.
If you can't read it from my comment, this guy seems to understand and why should he suffer just because some thinks its ok to appease others at the cost of selling out who you are. I am a hyper social Xenophobe, I will talk with anyone as long as you don't come to close and think we are friends. Friendship needs to be earned. I did not vote for wannabe america Kokoomus nor did I vote for PS that even the party creator says neo nazis has taken over the party leadership(Yes he invited them but that was because he thought he could keep em in check). Lets say it was better when the neo nazis were allowed to protest in the streets, at least they didn't have the need to evolve to get into power. They were only lost protesters but easy to keep in check, with minor damage. Now they sit in our government so was it worth removing their right to protest? We need some leaders wit ha firm hand. Not some wannabe America sissy boy nor a "women power" feminist appeaser bs one. We need a firm hand like Kekkonen even if he wasn't perfect he kept reality in check. Like our leaders spend more time on digging up sht on each other than fixing the problems it caused when Kokomuus have privatised sectors plus let the rents free. People are getting more selfish, soon you are not allowed to have an opinion if its negative against someone and we are destroying everything the generation built before us just so that a few can make some quick money. We are destroying our country and appeasing other cultures. Like would a Muslim country ever let women start to walk with a bare stomage if they are pregnant? No they wouldn't so we do not have to appease them. Its so simple "Here we do like this you are welcome to stay but if it doesn't suit you then there's the door". This man in the video will suffer because we do not have a firm hand leading. Instead we have bickering kids with problems separating what is best for the people and what is best for themselves(Sanna Marin might have been good at her job but she should never have mixed with feminism nor behave like a teenage girl, she was better than little boy orpo that doesn't even understand how our system or laws work, but still I would rather have Kekkonen).
The country needs to accommodate immigrants to a degree if it wants to survive, that's simply a cold hard fact. Finland might be best place on Earth for Finnish people, but since Finns don't want to have children at replacement level and the younger generations are too small to keep the system going in the long run, you need to make sacrifices. Finland has plenty of its own freeloaders and if significant portion of people who come to Finland are freeloaders, then maybe its to rethink about why people do not want to do their part in a society. Sure there are people who are simply lazy, but as a Finn who has largely been in relationships with people from outside of Finland, Finland isn't very welcoming or easy place to move to. I've had far easier time moving into countries that are generally considered more xenophobic or racist than Finland. That should tell enough. Finland fails to integrate properly, it gives you few language courses and then expects you to largely make it on your own. Meanwhile getting fulltime employment is challenging, even if you are Finnish but have a foreign last name. The main things that make Finland appealing to many people is the relative equality, safety and the welfare system. It's certainly not the people or much of anything else. Not to say the people are bad, but there are far more hospitable people elsewhere in many places. The people who expect the foreigners to adjust and settle into country the way they want, don't want to provide any real tools for that to occur in the first place. They point to people who came before and say that if people before could do it, so should the newer arrivals. That's simply not the same thing, the volume of people coming and the volume of people required to come in to keep the country a float simply makes it necessary for the country itself to adjust and change things up. The people who came before weren't the same and are generally quite unique when compared to other people from their home countries. If we wanted to rely on these kind of people alone as immigrants to Finland, there'd simply not be enough of them. The more people moan about appeasing the immigrants, the more likely Finland will have immigrants just forming their own communities within the country rather than integrating.
@@Jonra1 What you fail to see is that we do not need more people. It is the current system that needs for the population to increase and the only reason it ain't increasing is because there is not enough security in the country. We have many ways to fix the problem but no one is willing because that would mean they have to sacrifice something. Just if you can't see it then look at our planet and we are 8b people. Gone from 4b to 8b during my lifetime so before I'm dead we will be 16b. It does not compute when the planet is only good for around 1b people with our current technology used. You sound like a person that really doesn't know the reality, you have an opinion and stick to it because you think it is the right thing to do. I have worked with 100's of immigrants and the reality is sad. Yes some of em make it but so many just abused by the system so you others can live your relaxing lives. I have nothing against em, would have been hard to work with em then. Still they do not need someone licking their a$$es because you aren't ready to do the hard labor and rather abuse a foreigner to do it for you. Just as an reality check for you. Every morning when I got to work I spent 5 mins talking to an elderly man from x country fleeing a war(not ukraine). It was our routine and he really loved practicing our language, then the boys I had to work with saw every finn that even looked at them as an racist so I even once almost threw a cabinet on one of them, the work was below them and it felt like our culture was sht for them. That elderly man never asked to be treated in any different way but those young ones demanded to be respected as kings. The appeasing reates attitude among them that teaches em that they can demand anything. Like a 20 year old lazy fck went on about it being racism that didn't give him a promotion. Had nothing to do with racism, it was me telling the bosses that they are lazy fcks only sitting on their phones. My point aint that we don't have those lazy fcks but appeasment does not teach em anything else than getting stuff without doing anything. A bit same issue with our young in today's Finland. The kids coming from school to learn about a job place just sits on their darn phones when someone should slap em once and put em to work to at least experience the job. I do vote for getting the stick back for the teachers at schools too because teachers are burning out faster than we can educate new ones now when they don't even have the right to grab a child and carry them out from the classroom even anymore. If you still don't get it that old man spoke fluent finnish just because he cared enough to learn, only problem was that hes over 60 so the chances for him to get a job is pretty small. Nobody felt sorry for him he was just one of us. Its like night and day working with the people not been cared for like little babies and the ones that has been. Why not just treat em like any person in our country? They came here so everyone can't like what we have to offer but those that do like it they will adapt. I'm also a Finswe so I do know whats its like to be seen as someone from the outside, but still babying me would have done nothing else than create more anger among the Fin speaking population. Then to the real problem in Finland with the need of workers is that the working conditions of the jobs are such that 90% of the people working here would never accept them. You wouldn't agree to work randomly 3 days a week. You wouldn't agree to work 3 weeks per month if the pay is below the limit set by our laws. You wouldn't move 200km for a job that promises only 3 months when the pay is below 2k per month. I assume you wouldn't even work below 3k per month looking at your lack of understanding how fckd up our job market is today. When I was young you went to a company, signed the papers "until death or old age do us part", today you sign "until the company has drained you to death and no one has any use for you again". Yes we do have honest employers still but the ones needing workforce are mostly the ones that ain't that honest or tries to save money by decreasing the workers security. So they are shouting for more and then we have those not knowing our laws working there for the time that is paid by the state and then they let em go. I got fed up on looking at how they abuse people and call it giving them a chance so I left. People using that service has no clue whatsoever what is really going on, they just smile and are happy that the service exists. Why do you think they rather used the Kosovo albans in construction back in the day? Yes because they removed asbest without extra costs or any way of pressuring the building, so you sit in you office sniffing that asbest dust(before you get too scared, back in the day it was openly mixed and I don't ever heard of any place cleaning every spot just because there was asbest used at some point in time). Why do you think so many finnish construction workers lost their jobs when we joined "open borders". Because a helping hand from Finland had a min cost of 23 euros of more per hour while a Estonian one only cost 15 euros. You know the funny part is that the Estonian worker was left with more in his hand per hour than the Finnish one. It is not the fault of the people coming here, its the system and appeasment aint improving the situation. Like yay you get em tricked here until they find out that as Finns they have rights and you got no slavelabor force to supply you with your personal comfort needs. They should be told the truth and take it or leave it. Honest and truthful. To fix the low births we only need to make the workmarket secure again by forcing companies to keep a darn "nestegg" like they used to do because no one wants to get kids if they ain't sure they will still have a job in 5 years. Why the foreigners have kids is because their situation improved but their kids will have higher standards and probably demand the same stability as we others do to get kids. Maybe they won't care that much for a generation or two but it will change. Look at any animal, they do not reproduce if the conditions are unsure/unsecure and even eat their young if they believe it will become worse why would humans be different? So maybe babies should be more important than getting a 5% payout for the shareholders every damn year. So you argue for "we need more people to move here" when its only a kids band-Aid on a ruptured artery.
@@Jonra1 We need to remove everything that is copied from USA and go back to creating our own working system. Like free healthcare back, no private healthcare anymore, remove all private transportation systems and return everything to VR and Matkahuolto. Return everything with electricity back to the ownership of the people, no more fcking shareholding fckers draining it. We need to return the balance between socialism and capitalism to a level that was working. When we do that then families will start to have 5 kids again. Then remove the dogs and cats from the women so they don't have "wannabe children" to suplement their need to nurture a child and viola men will start to complain again about being forced into fatherhood because the woman want to keep it. Like add a tax of like 200 per month for a dog, less dog poo to step in also so everyone wins. Do not even try to tell me women don't see their dogs as their little child, if you don't believe me then try to take it from em. Or befriend her dog and suddenly you are the perfect man that can be trusted similar reaction they have if their child likes you.
I would say that the majority of the people are not even much xenophobes as per strict definition, they are just wary of strangers until they figure them out. Then there are introverts, who simply do not see any upside in interacting with strangers unless they absolutely have to, applying this to both native and foreign strangers. Lastly, there is the cultural thing where there is nothing wrong to sit in silence, while e.g. riding a bus or waiting for entry to doctors' appointment. Someone, who comes from a different culture may very easily interpret all three as hostility and racism.
How are You ? How are things ? Have You learned any Finnish yet ? Joko olet päässyt alkuun... kielen opiskelussa ? Mitä aikaisemmin päätät - niin sitä nopeammin kielen oppii ? So did you get it...? All the Best
Being a Finn in Finland is hard enough nowadays, so I can only imagine all the problems immigrants might have. The craziest thing is that the current sorry-ass government wants to "fix the economy" with immigration but at the same time they are making life situation for immigrants harder then ever.
Finally I see a Finn tell it like it is. Imagine how you would feel if you were a foreigner in Finland who had somehow got along, making just enough to get by, and then as a friendly gesture, translated W Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret to English, all 10,000 rhymed lines singable to the same tunes. I was satisfied, no complaints, for the five years it went unnoticed. Then all hell broke loose and I was vilified beyond comprehension. To date, not a single Finn has been able to say something like "That was nice of you, Tom, to go to the trouble" or "I am so sorry people have vilified you publicly for doing a good turn." Nope. Not one.
The thing is the people who are talking about racism in Finland tend to be finnish born people... and ofcourse there is some racism in every country. (including South-Africa). But for the most part people are not RACIST they just don't like how certani groups act and behave and looking at France and Sweden... can we really blame people being worried. It is sad that a guy like you might get in the midle of this thing that has nothing to do with you :/ I hope everything goes well for you, I really do. You seem like a good person and I don't think every immigrant should be threted as an entity but rather as individuals.
I expect to be treated decently for making a friendly gesture in translating W. Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret into English, instead of being maligned publicly. But Finns apparently are unable to rise to that level. Racism I can understand. But not this.
@@ThomasGMcElwain As a foreigner - We dont talk religion or politics with totally strangers ! I dont know where You were born and raised so - If You would open a little bit - and tell Your values and goals ? Do You share Your values - with anyone on this Planet ?
Finland truly needs more people like you! So glad that you came here, moving to another country and culture must be so difficult, you are a brave man! Great video!
You are one of the lucky ones. There has been rumours about immigrants that are oblidget to start buildin internment camps at northern parts of Finland to ensure them to stay at those camps until a solution comes to move them to another country. My friend told me this and he is somewhat in the ranks to get this information.
Lisää tämmöisiä tyyppejä suomeen:) mielestäni tulevat tiukemmat säännöt helpottavat rehellisten ja hyvän asenteen omaavien erottamisen niistä, joita houkuttelee helppo toimeentulo yms. En ole vielä muita videoita katsonut mutta mikäli et vielä ole, niin rohkaisen kuvaamaan myös suomeksi 👍
Hahaha :D So true about bicycles. :D Every single one I ever owned got stolen...chain locked to the building or not. :D And I live in the ultimate high trust west coast small town. :D Weird. Never "borrowed" or stolen one myself, though - not the way I was brought up. ;)
Eh, there are approximately three categories of people that come here according to those who were born to parents of the Finnish stock. Immigrants, no problem there, refugees, some problems there and welfare benefit seeker gold diggers, a lot of problems there. One of the problems is: only after a long and serious conversation with most of the people is one upgraded from any category to the next and even then if you are upgraded to immigrant, there still exists the loop between immigrant and welfare benefit seeker that goes on and on. Refugees are in some minds the second best category because for some yet to materialize factor most of those people are supposed to go back to their lands after the conflict, but it rarely happens.
The second honest Finn I see on this thread. Actually, being a foreigner in Finland is hell, and anyone who says differently is frantically trying to flatter Finns into treating them better. The nicer you are to Finns, the faster they will stab you in the back.
I have to wake you up! Open door immigration will destroy Finland and her Finnish culture. Go downtown London England and you will you are in Uganda, walk the streets in Paris and you’d swear you were in Pakistan. Go shopping in Dallas and find most of the store clerks speak no English. Crime will skyrocket if Finland opens her doors to people of African heritage and Muslims
Totally understandable if the current government confuses you after we just had one of the most progressive governments before this. I think a lot of Finns were a bit taken aback by it too. I know I wasn't happy to find out that half of the people in my town voted for conservative parties >_> I gotta say I hate the old notion of 'immigrants are just living off of our social benefits'. Sure, some are, but so are a lot of Finns. It's just so much easier for politicians to make it about immigrants specifically.
Just a thought. A governments job is to provide a safe and prosperous country to it's citizens. There are only limited amount of resources that can be given to those in need. So when immigrants come, they are supposed to benefit the society, not take those limited resources away from the citizens. This is not saying all immigrants are taking the resources away, I'm just saying you can't make that comparison. Every single immigrant taking social support is using the money meant for the citizens. So of course that is something that government needs to consider. What is the best way to go about it, well that I don't know.
People keep trying to tell me that half the Finns are really good people, but I don't buy it. I did free propaganda for Finland for decades, until I finally even went to the trouble to translate W. Malmivaara's entire Siionin virret into the same rhyme and meter in English. That is when it finally hit me that there is no way to appease Finns. The nicer you are to them, the worse they will be to you. When someone breaks rank and says public "Tom, that was a nice gesture," I might start believing in Finns again. But I am not holding my breath. It has been ten years now since I made that mistake and Finns have made my life hell for simply making a friendly gesture.
Congratulations for successful assimilation. After getting abhorred by unexpected doorbell, the next stage is getting annoyed by the freeloaders who vocally complain that they are not receiving enough. The final stage is to develop a strange craving for rye bread and salmiakki, which you just can not explain to foreigners.
good thoughts u have.! :) I´m worried about current situation. How can there be far right accepting people and rasism in our gov. when the whole idea of Finland is equality? imho
Great video. I am planning on moving to Finland but I am worried about how Finnish people will treat me. I am from Argentina, I already have a job (software engineer contractor) which I intend to keep because I'm very happy with it. So it is not about money or running away from my country. It is just something personal, I always dreamed about living in a nordic country. I studied english in Ireland for almost 2 years and, since I came back to my country I didn't feel at home anymore. So yes, now with 36 yo and completely alone I want to go there and start a new life... ps: I have european passport so thats not a problem.
Where are You living now ? Howmuch do You know about Finland in General. - Not with Generals ? Are You able to watch TH-cam - to find out more about Finland ? Like Sibelius - sauna - sisu - What are those ? #2 Have You heard of DARUDE ? #3 Do You know - salmiakki IS like ? #4 What IS The most watched - Sport in Finland ? - What IS The National Game of Finland ? #5 Have Yö ever heard of a Sport called BANDY ? # 6 Have You ever seen any Finnish movies - by Kaurismäki ?
To holoholo; Your reality of Finland is very strange. If those examples you were giving to a foreign person are Finnish essentials, you yourself, dear Holo, should grow up!
@@holoholopainen1627 I'm in Italy, I know about Finland what you can get on a 1 week visit and plenty of YT videos, besides general knowledge. I haven't heard of DARUDE nor Sibelius/sisu. Idk about the national sport, but I know some sports I'm interested in that are played in Finland. I watched a tv show, a thriller. I don't get your point..
@@juanpablo4659 If You know nothing - What Do You base Your Life on ? You need to know something - about something ! Older You get - More You know ! In Finland Nobody knows anything about You or Italy / Argentina - so You are travelling - Not Us !
@@MRiitta To You personally ! There are many People that knows these - but If You know something - are You sure that everybody does ? Do You know How long IT takes - to learn a New language ( suomea ) ? If so Please let Me know too - Kiitos
Honestly new party in power is pretty annoying. It's really part of the classic infuriating trend of people moving to right/conservative side when there are economic/social unrest. It's basically response to retreat to where you are most comfortable and cling into what you have and know. Since that's "safe", and people want feeling of safety, or something external to blame so you can feel more comfortable. Honestly this is so predictable if you look at the history, which makes it so much more annoying. It's not that I don't have issues with some aspects of migration, but I just think it's overall good, thing, and we need to do it better, like everything. Migrants especially in Finland are just such an small party of population and economy that focusing on that as some solution to any problem is kinda ridiculous, mostly talking about reducing immigration. Reduction is just not going to solve anything. But it's classic popular political point for reason, it works on people. Again annoyingly. This is why I think we need actual political and economical education included in basic education, so that we can navigate and understand these systems we live in better, and not get caught up in rhetoric and charged environment like now with all the crisis going on. Sometimes I just feel like education is bit too focused on turning us into good workers, not effective members of society financially and politically. Obviously, being good worker is huge part of that, but being able to understand basic systems that govern your life, finance and politics, is super important as well.
Spot on...The whole video...Kaveri on huomannut paremmin kuin moni suomalainen.Miten tämä maa toimii. Ja millaisia me olemme.Suomi tarvii tekijöitä. Ei olijoita.Verorahat ei tule muuten riittämään pyörittämään tätä maata. Ei ole tulossa uutta Nokiaa tätä maata pelastamaan...
The Nordic countries are famous for tolerance in every way. They are also richer than a lot of other European countries (surprise, surprise a lot of people come for the material benefits and not the culture). Yes, if you move to a place then it's natural to have problems but that's true no matter where you are. Cultural issues are different and that's true everywhere. But remember if you don't like it then you don't have to stay.
You have a great flow and attitude, i think you could make it anywhere, definitely in Finland. Spot on with your observations. I live in France and i must say Finland should be careful how to play the immigrant card. I see here some individuals integrate well some not, nothing to do with race, but certainly religion and culture. Example from this week, kids started school this week and first huge controversy, muslims traditional abaya costume was banned at schools(as the law goes, no religious signs at school), muslims got upset and nobody is happy, i think school uniforms are making their way, which i think is an cultural change not welcome as this country is known for fashion and clothing and it is part of the national identity(people tend to be well dressed starting young age). Immigration is also financial question, what i see here in France is society, where the "social" cost is getting huge and the rest of the "system" is under stress, like justice system (for small crimes like burglary or assault, it's not unusual that police has not time to investigate and there is no pursuites ), school system is inequal, police is quite bad(huge turnover in big cities, around 10%/year, hard to find new recruit, bad salary and working conditions), healthcare system is also under pressure, inequal, depends a lot where you live. Keep up the good content.
Finns have no business living in other countries, as long as they cannot treat people who come from other countries to Finland with respect. I demand the same respect from others as I give them. The last straw was when I translated W. Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret to English as a friendly gesture and all hell broke loose. I did not expect a prize or even thanks. But I did not expect the insane and diabolical vitriol that Finns have poured on me for doing that. Not a single Finn in the last ten years since I did so has had the desire or courage to defend me. By the way, after studying four years in France, as a foreigner, I was offered two good jobs that required high skills in French language. My Finnish wife insisted on going back to Finland, which for me has been a mistake. I have lived successfully in six countries. Only Finns have the gall to treat people with such depths of hostility.
@@ThomasGMcElwain Voisitko omin sanoin kertoa että mitä niissä sanotaan ? Suurimmalla osalla suomalaisista ei ole mitään käsitystä mistä - olet nämä kirjoitukset löytänyt ? In English - most FINNS have not idea - What You are talking about ? How Well do You read and write Finnish ? You are blaming someone - that has no knowledge - what kind of values - You are bringing to the table ?
@@holoholopainen1627 I translated a 19th-century text, W. Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret, which was sung by tens of thousands of people for over 70 years. It is a part of Finnish cultural history. While I never thought about thanks for doing so, I should not have been publicly vilified for it and I should have been defended. To date, no one has gone to Herattaja Yhdistys and said "Why have you treated this man so despicably?" I lectured in Finnish at the University of Turku for several years, which required a paper signed by Prof Kangasmaa-Minn at the time, stating that my Finnish was good enough to lecture there. The problem is not with my translating ability, but with Finns who have no manners and no shame. Even if I had done a horrible job, the response should have been, "Tom, that was nice of you to make that effort." The only thing that can be said against me is that I have complained of the way I have been treated. But that seems to be an even greater sin. Until this is made right, I shall do everything in my power to expose Finns for the xenophobic and disgraceful people they are. Finns have had ten years to put this right, it has been in several newspapers, and other magazines, and still there is neither acknowledgment nor apology.
@@ThomasGMcElwain This IS GREAT ! Thanks for telling everything here openly - and letting us know what You have been thru ! When did this all took place ? Did You get to know any other People - than Your lovely workmates ? Täytyy sanoa ettei minulla ole mitään hajua - että mistä joku on saanut päähänsä - edes aloittaa oleskelunsa Suomessa tällä tavalla !
Paid propaganda or desperate attempt to flatter Finns into treating him better. It does not work. The nicer you are to Finns the faster they will stab you in the back.
Sounds so much propaganda-like!) Xenophobic mood in Finland is as high as ever these days. Many of the points you explained gone far in the past, unfortunately ( I understand and respect so much your approach for self-sufficiency, but Finland sounds as a very strange choice for such people.
For me every single one like you are more than welcome to Finland! Government should realize that we need immigrants to come work here both lower level jobs and in jobs that require high level of expertice. What comes to those that are only interested in social security and have zero motivation to go forward, they just don't work here. Economy is bad enough already. Something has to be done to integration system to make sure that for example assylum seekers have possibility to provide for themselves. Of course it doesn't take away the problem that some people may still just lay back and just enjoy the benefits. Tricky questions, hard political discussions. Either way there is no room for racisim whatsoever. Keep on the good work and great video! 😎
No one is coming to Finland to work as an engineer for a salary of 4500€ to pay 2000€ in taxes and live in one of the most expensive countries by cost of living in Europe. The immigration we get is mostly arabs, somalis etc coming from complete hellholes to abuse Europes naive wellfare system, no matter which country because they only want the money and don't even plan to try to integrate. They have completely different mentality and culture. They see European kindness as being weak. That's why they force kids to lick their shoes, are violent, get in crime and drugs to prove their manliness. Even in Finland Mc's are already completely out of the drug business because of immigeants who are driving 60k€ cars bought with drug money. For once could we not follow Swedens policies to avoid complete destruction.
Our new goverment isn't good for anybody who gets less than 3000€/month from job. Or if you don't have job right now it's going to be cold ride (even colder than jannuary). We just have to hope that they find little bit of humanity in them before it's too late. Respect for you, keep it up!
What do you mean exactly? I'm a student and earn way less than 3000e/month and I don't see a problem. The previous government on the other almost taxed me to the streets.
@@MrBeebeesee mayby we then just live in different realitys. I'm happy that you are happy and don't see the problem. There is nothing I can say to change your view and I don't want or care to.
Foreigners who flatter Finns are just desperately trying to get them to treat them better. The country is hell for foreigners and anyone who says otherwise is a flatterer or getting paid for propaganda. There is NO way to appease Finns. The nicer you are to them, the faster they will stab you in the back.
That has no idea ! This Game IS just a about as Old as Our 1917 - Independence ! No Everybody Could travel to America - and the Most Finns that did - Never came back ! So Most People never seen Baseball - in Real Life !
The answer IS FINNISH BASEBALL called PESÄPALLO ! There were many that were close - as many said Ice Hockey ! Ice hockey is the Biggest Sport - but Not The National Sport ! Games has over 100 Season - and IS The Greatest pastime in Finland ! Thanks to TH-cam - More and More has seen a video of The Game ! At Helsinki Olympics ( 1940 to 1952 ) - The game was an exhibition game - buy The RULES were taken to MELBOURNE 1956 Games ! As There are Aussies - that still know & play The Game !
Have You heard of salmiakki ? Try some - or watch some TH-camrs - do IT for You ! Many has never heard of salmiakki - so They have no idea What Finlands #1 Candy taste like ! Salmiakki IS as Finnish as FINNISH BASEBALL ! Many heard of The game and its 100 year history - but never seen IT being played ! Like One American has more than 2 million likes - Even He has never been to a single game ! He IS just cashing in - with His Paapalaapa - talked Video !
That is objectively untrue. You are confusing your own bigotry for facts or economic needs. Europe needs skilled workers and there are plenty that are more than willing to contribute their talents. Too bad for you.
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This is the simplest question to answer, you clearly respect us and the country, we do the same to you and your birthplace too. thats all there is to it. we only judge people from the bad things they do. who you are and where you are from dont matter, its what you do and say , and think of others what matters
Chico, guys like you will never have any problem living in here. You have a good and kind attitude, with respecting and being honest to others. We don’t have to see you as same color, because more importantly we see you and learn to know you as equal. Mutually earned respect is one of our virtues.
Thank you so much!
Greetings from Germany. Love this video man. You thoughts seem very genuine und authentic. It's good that you point out the simple things in everyday of life as a foreigner in Finland. 👌 I think it's important to know what could happend, when someone decide to move and live abroad.
It’s ok to be immigrant but integration is the key , speak the language is the first step
Stockholm Syndrome - that You know whose Team You are on ?.
One should never be concerned about the Finnish language, Finns admit it's a very difficult language to learn but are more than happy to speak English once they understand you also speak the language. It has been my experience, and pleasure, to know that many, many Finnish people speak an excellent level of English.
Probably a better level than I do.
My wife was born and raised in Finnish Lapland, quite a remote area now with a rapidly dwindling population, just a scattering of elderly living in the complete silence of the nature with the ghosts of their memories. It's a world that is gradually disappearing.
For me personally, there's a complete sense of freedom.
Particularly so during the long winter months which I absolutely adore. Summer isn't really my cup of tea because the air is filled with creatures that either want to burn, sting or bite you. As a Yorkshire lad, I have found, much to my disappointment, These creatures never leave me alone. They must think I'm exotic food. I'm so relieved the season is short.
Yeah, summer is the worst season here. I've lived in Finland all my life, 40 years now. And I do think that a colder and shorter summer might be okay, but I think it's gotten too long and too hot too maybe. Autumn and spring are kinda great, but in springtime, especially in southeast Finland, you better be careful when you move in the woods, bear just woken up from winter sleep might get you there. But I don't know if it ever happens these days.
Only animal in finnish nature you need to worry about is moose. Aka murdercow.
Bears and wolfs will hear you and smell you and bail long before you get to see them.
Finland is finally getting the attention it deserves… LONG LIVE SUOMI
For 3 years now I always look here at TH-cam about Finland i just like watching and because I am dreaming to visit it one day . I’m 43 and starting to save to visit the country as a tourist. Maybe 2 years from now. Love, phılıppınes
"Lääkärit ilman rajoja!" 😁 I like your attitude!👍Working (if able) and being part of culture is very important.
Did I understand right ? You went to People in their homes - to ask someone to give money ? - You werent told - that IT IS againgt The LAW ? Someone IS using - newcomers to breake The Law ? - If I got You wrong - Please let me know ?
We splurged on national debt for a while so it's going to get cold for a lot of people. Not too happy about the current government coalition but it's a stick that was coming our way. I think a lot of Finns are happy to have anyone in who at least tries to assimilate to the culture to some degree and works hard.
If the previous government were re-elected, they might have kept borrowing for additional 4 years, but after that, it would have been really gruesome compared to the plans of current govt.
Bro, greetings from SA! Thanks for making a video like this, it's really helping me to come to a decision on where to eventually work, study and integrate and hearing it from a Saffa is dope and deeply reassuring :) Great video 💯
Leave white people alone
I am new in Finland too, and I love it here. I agree with your opinions and like your attitude. Please keep the videos coming.
Have You tasted - salmiakki - yet ? There are several Videos on TH-cam - many tasted salmiakki for The very 1st time ! #2 Have You ever heard about Our National Game - called Finnish Baseball - PESÄPALLO in Our language ! There are several TH-camrs that has made The Sport - More known - than some have seen IT - thru ITs - over 100 year history ! One American has More that two million - 2.000.000 likes - Even He has never seen The game Alive ! #3 Ice hockey is the Biggest Sport - in Finland ! Finland has The most NHL players at ( 32 Teams that 7 in Canada ) ! Helsinki has HIFK - and JOKERIT - 50 / 50% of supporyers ! Black but Finnish - stands for salmiakki !
“As long as I work and earn my money”
That’s all it takes to set in. Respect.
I agree 100 percent with you. I have been here for almost 10 years. I am still trying to master this language, but that is just the nature of the beast. I am happy here, a defender of critics of Finland, and I have no plans to leave this wonderful place that has been so wonderful to me ... including giving me a wonderful husband!
Hello madam i Come from Cameroon but i live and work in UAE. I really wish to migrate to Finland.
Please how Can i do ????
You are a parasite
@@PatsonTekgo to africa?
@@S4v3_w3st No i mean how to go to Finland
@@S4v3_w3stAnd once am there how should i go about it ???
I had doubts about moving to Finland but your video has made me to fall in love with the country. I hope that one day, I get to share similar experiences
Many like salmiakki ? There are several TH-camrs making salmiakki more known ! M There are so many that has never heard of salmiakki ! Thanks to TH-cam - everybody wants to taste !
There is definitely a dark side to Finland. Really, if you can live a good life elsewhere, do not make the mistake to going to Finland to live.
@@ThomasGMcElwain What happened ? Everybody IS asking - What happened ? What was so diffycult to learn to cope with ? You didn't like sauna ? You didnt like salmiakki ? You didnt - learn The LANGUAGE ? Please let us jnow - did You just know the wrong kind of People ?
@@holoholopainen1627 What happened? I made the mistake of thinking that Finns were like people everywhere else. As a gesture of good will, I translated W. Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret, a historical text, should not offend anyone, all 10,000 rhymed lines of it. When no one bothered much about it for five years, I thought all was well. Then suddenly all hell broke loose and I became pariah for daring to commit an act of cultural kindness. So may Herattaja Yhdistys and everyone associated with it stuff it.
@@ThomasGMcElwain You are not talking about PEKKA SIITOIN - are You ? Please learn some of His values before telling us - that You were treated BAD ! Some People knew HIM - but did You ? Please Dont get involved with something - that You have no knowledge of ?
I think Finnish people TRULY appreciate just honest ,hard work.............we don't care what you do as long as you work and be part of society.thank. you for bringing spark to our dark winters.you are fresh air 👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍😀
You do not appreciate honest, hard work. Then why has all of the public response to my kind and friendly gesture of translating W. Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret into English only sparked hostility?
Finnish people don't even appreciate themselves, much less foreigners, and much less foreigners who learn their language, work hard, and pay taxes. The nicer you are to them, the faster they will stab you in the back.
No we don’t, we don’t want Finland to become africa
I don't really have much to say, but gotta keep that algorithm happy, eh?
Anyways, you seem like just the kind of imigrant any country would be glad to get, so I'm happy you chose Finland :)
These kind of things are always complicated and weird, and I think pretty much every country struggles with them at least a bit.
Finland's main thing is that we just want to live in our little corner of the world in peace... And that's pretty much it.
Sometimes that comes out as "leave me alone!" and sometimes as "eh, whatever. you do you, I'll do me".
I feel like you have got the hang of that pretty well, and for the language... You know, just go "noniin", and you're pretty much golden!
As an American Black woman from the USA who have dated two Finnish men and one Danish man, I have visited several times and personally respect and love the Scandinavian Nordic countries except for the extreme cold weather but I do love sauna culture:) I've had a sauna in my home for a long time because of my experience with the Scandinavian Nordic culture and its people. I even enjoy Hygge from Denmark. I also get it when you said that you realized everything was in a different language. This is called culture shock. I experienced this when my then Finn/Swed boyfriend and I were walking to the store. I was looking at the signs and noticed that none of the words were in English. I bursted out and started crying for about two-three minutes then I was good.
I personally feel those Scandinavian Nordic countries have done it correctly! I met my first Finnish boyfriend when he came to the USA as a University professional tennis player at a neighboring University. He opened my world to a whole new global perspective when it came to dating. He was kind, genuine, spoke several languages, extremely intelligent, fit, adventurous, a sense of humor, and just a great guy:) He went back to get his MBA but we stayed in touch for a long time as friends. He is now in east Asia and is doing extremely well. He still inspires me to do well!
I met my next Finnish boyfriend when I lived in a Honors(high GPA)/ Upperclassmen/ International Educational Exchange student dormitory where both genders resided the following year. He's Finnish(actually he's half-Finnish and half-Swedish) but grew up with in Finland. He's the reason I visited Finland(including Lapland and northern Sweden). Another great guy who actually asked me to marry him. I met his entire family and most were wonderful except female cousin who lives in Lapland. His other female cousin who lives in Helsinki is so awesome! I often think if I had accepted his proposal, we would be next door neighbors and raised our children together while watching old episodes of Sex and The City, travelling as families, creating wonderful memories, and all of us growing older together:) I still care for him but more like family now. After him, I met a wonderful Danish guy when he came to the USA to work for a Danish company operating in the USA. We met in an affluent neighborhood. I looked up and thought to myself, 'Who is That'? as a Michael Jackson song was playing in the background:) We danced all night and began dating:) We were both two young well-educated professionals enjoying our lives. I've had wonderful experiences and know that their government believes in investing in their citizens. I could also tell that they came from Families who took care and invested in them as well.
I personally feel it's not the responsibility of another country(super wealthy Western country) to take care of people who choose to flee to another country instead of fighting to make their own country sustainable and a great place to live. Even moving from South Africa to Finland is a win-win for you honestly because those Scandinavian Nordic countries believe in equality, they're great people with low crime and low corruption. I personally fee, l they should be extremely cautious about allowing foreign people into their country.
The USA is the wealthiest country but invites people from all over the world as International Educational Exchange students and on Work Visas. People are allowed to enter the USA as Green Card Holders when a foreign person is dating, soon to marry an American. The USA is extremely diverse but immigration must be done correctly and there's no 'confusion' in that. The USA is currently dealing with an influx of unskilled unwanted people from non-Western countries and that's not a good thing! The sudden influx of people to the USA isn't an isolated occurrence but is happening throughout The West and a lot of people from super wealthy Western countries including the Scandinavian Nordic countries have experienced or observed negative behavior from new arrivals(illegal and legals) and have grown frustrated with these new people's unwillingness to assimilate, hostility, tribalism, passive aggressiveness, trying to sabotage or gaslight you, their negative cultural views on women, extreme religious ideologies, the native population taxpayer's money going for benefits to illegal and even new legal arrives while some native people aren't receiving these benefits. I think this is why there has been a 180 degree change on immigration throughout The West. Even I use to love all these new people arriving because I thought they were like the International Educational Exchange students from my dormitory and like the phenomenal Scandinavian Nordic guys that I dated but most are not. I know currently South Africans are complaining about an influx of neighboring Africans immigrating to South Africa for jobs or as economic refugees. I think all native population want to be respected and not take care of adults( foreign men/women and children) who should take care of themselves by their countries of origin while new arrivals assimilate and add positively to that new country. If you do decide to come to the USA legally the road to citizenship is a extremely long and difficult process with lots of money required. Across The West the native population are calling for massive deportation to occur. Will this happen? I'm unsure🇺🇸
Wait! Do you consider realizing that things are written in another language in a different country is a "cultural shock"?
@@brunovilela4219Yes, especially if it's the first time you left the USA to visit a non-speaking English country.
. When growing up in the USA everything was in English. One of my high school math teachers was from India but he and she family spoke English. My first experience with people outside the USA were the International Educational Exchange students who lived in my Upperclassmen/Honors(high grade point averages or Grades), and International students. I even asked, 'Where are you guys from'? They told me but I didn't realize these International students were the Elites of where they came from. I thought all Europeans were of a certain caliber or high Standard so I tended to gravitate towards Internationas who remind me of my fellow dormitory mates and ex-boyfriends. I remember watching the UK show Eastenders or the first time. I thought those are certainly not the people stayed in my dormitory. My first International boyfriend was a professional tennis player from Finland at a USA University near my University. He's a phenomenal guy and he still inspires me. My next boyfriend was Danish that I met after University. I knew he was from Europe at one glance. I remember looking up and thought, ' Who is that'? In a Good way. Turns out he also is from one of those Elite European Families. A English guy I dated as well. Elite as well. There's just unspoken social cues. He attended the same Boarding School as Harry and William. Attended Oxford throughout and graduated with a PhD in the Sciences and Philosophy. He came to the USA with a fellowship at a USA and stayed. My last companion and Great Friend was German. Was a Professor in many countries, authored many books and peer reviewed articles, lectured at various Conferences and top ranked Universities all over the world. He passed away recently but our relationship lasted for twelve years. Each asked me to marry them at one point. They all are extremely learned, spoke English fluently, from great Families but so am I. Maybe I should have accepted one of their proposals or allowed Love fully but there's something about enjoying life for yourself and having a certain level of Independence. I will say they still inspire me along with all those International Educational Exchange students who made a positive impact on my life and encouraged me to travel outside of the USA. I took Spanish in high school and Undergrad but it's not the same as visiting a non-English speaking country for yourself. My positive experience with the International Educational Exchange students and now boyfriends and International friends inspired me to see the world for myself. As a result, my entire family began traveling internationally❤
I think learning Finnish will be easy for me since I grew up listening to it a lot and know the basics
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I really enjoyed hearing about your experience
People with the same attitude as you are always welcome 💪
Current government is not harsh only for immigrants but also poor and part time jobbers making their life also more difficult, soon is better to be at home with benefits than try to make at least some job. I don't understand this new way what is coming
Articulate, well mannered, thought and respectful. Good lad, glad you found your way.
i am honestly on the same boat as you about the new government. it has been nothing but an embarrassing, confusing mess and this is just the beginning of their 4 yrs. not only do they want to attack immigrants, but poor people as well who all try their best to live a good life.
Seems like you haven’t read the government white paper on immigration, which aims to increase immigration overall. The 3 month limit to find a new job is slightly embarrassing, as are the True Finns idiots. Having said that, the largest embarrassment recently has been the quality of Finnish journalism. How are the poor being attacked, or do you mean the unemployed?
Idk maybe look at sweeden and Denmark France Germany and the crime. You knob
Thanks for sharing bro. Could you make a video about living cost in Finland.
Wise words again my friend 😊
Lovely content 👌
More of “how Finland change you”
I live I sweden a very different language but same same in many ways.
Sweden and Finland are brothers 👌
I have lived in both Sweden and Finland. Yes, they are closer than brother, more like two sides of the same person: Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. Finland is Mr Hyde. I cannot praise Sweden highly enough in my experience. Actually, I got along well in the five other countries I have lived in. Finland is the only one I cannot find words enough to condemn. It is absolute hell.
@@ThomasGMcElwainHave You ever heard of Pekka Siitoin ? Are You talking about HIM ? No wonder You were treated like - You were ? Please - check WHO He was - berore yelling us that You are on The Right side !
@@holoholopainen1627 You are not much different from Pekka Siitoin yourself. Finns are now and always the most Jew-hating people in the world, along with their Baltic cousins.
I love your positive character 👍🏾
"they all looked like milk but I just didn't know what the actual milk was" I laughed so hard at this 😂 so honest and can totally relate knowing any supermarket from here.
Wow! I really didn't know that, just assumed that in Finland they speak English. This is terrifying, tjooo that was hard.
…and i agree with you on the serious parts👍
What irritates me as someone that lived for the last 40+ years in Finland is that Xenophobia is seen as racism. Like look how we sit in busses, we do not like to share space with strangers. Someone then coming from the outside here demanding that I should respect their culture but calls mine racist. That makes me boil because since a child I was thought that you take the culture according to where you go, you never demand that the other culture should adjust to yours.
I was born here and this is my home, the other one coming here always has the option not to come here because they have already left their home.
I have many good experiences with foreigners but I also have many bad ones. Elderly people are usually wiser so they know not to demand me to change who I am. I have met nice foreigners that only came here for benefits and I do understand that someone chosing between loosing their eye sight or move to another country to keep it will probably chose the better option even if it means that they will leech on the system because their injury makes em unable to contribute. I do not like the freeloaders that comes here and thinks its their right to leech and bad jobs are below them.
I still remember when a muslim sat on TV and demanded that we should build a "whatever that shouting tower is" in Finland because its their right. He just forgot that its every finns right not to be awaken by a religion in a country that ain't even religious. It was a fun experience when I went to Turkiye as a tourist to experience their culture, but having one close to me and I would tear it down. Same with allowing foreign cultures do things that not even I am allowed to do, creates only anger within people.
That all said: It's not really the personal fault of one foreigner, in reality it's the fault of the leaders trying to appease foreigners instead of showing a firm hand "If you move here then you live like us and you do like us", you are free to be yourself as long as it doesn't collide with our rules and laws. Now they change laws to appease em and try to create a fake picture.
We are Xenophobes that forces you to earn our trust and best way to do it is to work hard and be honest. Like I still respect the Russian from work because he was honest and worked hard.
If you can't read it from my comment, this guy seems to understand and why should he suffer just because some thinks its ok to appease others at the cost of selling out who you are. I am a hyper social Xenophobe, I will talk with anyone as long as you don't come to close and think we are friends. Friendship needs to be earned.
I did not vote for wannabe america Kokoomus nor did I vote for PS that even the party creator says neo nazis has taken over the party leadership(Yes he invited them but that was because he thought he could keep em in check). Lets say it was better when the neo nazis were allowed to protest in the streets, at least they didn't have the need to evolve to get into power. They were only lost protesters but easy to keep in check, with minor damage. Now they sit in our government so was it worth removing their right to protest?
We need some leaders wit ha firm hand. Not some wannabe America sissy boy nor a "women power" feminist appeaser bs one. We need a firm hand like Kekkonen even if he wasn't perfect he kept reality in check. Like our leaders spend more time on digging up sht on each other than fixing the problems it caused when Kokomuus have privatised sectors plus let the rents free. People are getting more selfish, soon you are not allowed to have an opinion if its negative against someone and we are destroying everything the generation built before us just so that a few can make some quick money. We are destroying our country and appeasing other cultures. Like would a Muslim country ever let women start to walk with a bare stomage if they are pregnant? No they wouldn't so we do not have to appease them. Its so simple "Here we do like this you are welcome to stay but if it doesn't suit you then there's the door". This man in the video will suffer because we do not have a firm hand leading. Instead we have bickering kids with problems separating what is best for the people and what is best for themselves(Sanna Marin might have been good at her job but she should never have mixed with feminism nor behave like a teenage girl, she was better than little boy orpo that doesn't even understand how our system or laws work, but still I would rather have Kekkonen).
The country needs to accommodate immigrants to a degree if it wants to survive, that's simply a cold hard fact. Finland might be best place on Earth for Finnish people, but since Finns don't want to have children at replacement level and the younger generations are too small to keep the system going in the long run, you need to make sacrifices.
Finland has plenty of its own freeloaders and if significant portion of people who come to Finland are freeloaders, then maybe its to rethink about why people do not want to do their part in a society. Sure there are people who are simply lazy, but as a Finn who has largely been in relationships with people from outside of Finland, Finland isn't very welcoming or easy place to move to. I've had far easier time moving into countries that are generally considered more xenophobic or racist than Finland. That should tell enough.
Finland fails to integrate properly, it gives you few language courses and then expects you to largely make it on your own. Meanwhile getting fulltime employment is challenging, even if you are Finnish but have a foreign last name. The main things that make Finland appealing to many people is the relative equality, safety and the welfare system. It's certainly not the people or much of anything else. Not to say the people are bad, but there are far more hospitable people elsewhere in many places.
The people who expect the foreigners to adjust and settle into country the way they want, don't want to provide any real tools for that to occur in the first place. They point to people who came before and say that if people before could do it, so should the newer arrivals. That's simply not the same thing, the volume of people coming and the volume of people required to come in to keep the country a float simply makes it necessary for the country itself to adjust and change things up. The people who came before weren't the same and are generally quite unique when compared to other people from their home countries. If we wanted to rely on these kind of people alone as immigrants to Finland, there'd simply not be enough of them.
The more people moan about appeasing the immigrants, the more likely Finland will have immigrants just forming their own communities within the country rather than integrating.
@@Jonra1 What you fail to see is that we do not need more people. It is the current system that needs for the population to increase and the only reason it ain't increasing is because there is not enough security in the country. We have many ways to fix the problem but no one is willing because that would mean they have to sacrifice something.
Just if you can't see it then look at our planet and we are 8b people. Gone from 4b to 8b during my lifetime so before I'm dead we will be 16b. It does not compute when the planet is only good for around 1b people with our current technology used.
You sound like a person that really doesn't know the reality, you have an opinion and stick to it because you think it is the right thing to do. I have worked with 100's of immigrants and the reality is sad. Yes some of em make it but so many just abused by the system so you others can live your relaxing lives. I have nothing against em, would have been hard to work with em then. Still they do not need someone licking their a$$es because you aren't ready to do the hard labor and rather abuse a foreigner to do it for you.
Just as an reality check for you. Every morning when I got to work I spent 5 mins talking to an elderly man from x country fleeing a war(not ukraine). It was our routine and he really loved practicing our language, then the boys I had to work with saw every finn that even looked at them as an racist so I even once almost threw a cabinet on one of them, the work was below them and it felt like our culture was sht for them. That elderly man never asked to be treated in any different way but those young ones demanded to be respected as kings. The appeasing reates attitude among them that teaches em that they can demand anything. Like a 20 year old lazy fck went on about it being racism that didn't give him a promotion. Had nothing to do with racism, it was me telling the bosses that they are lazy fcks only sitting on their phones.
My point aint that we don't have those lazy fcks but appeasment does not teach em anything else than getting stuff without doing anything. A bit same issue with our young in today's Finland. The kids coming from school to learn about a job place just sits on their darn phones when someone should slap em once and put em to work to at least experience the job. I do vote for getting the stick back for the teachers at schools too because teachers are burning out faster than we can educate new ones now when they don't even have the right to grab a child and carry them out from the classroom even anymore.
If you still don't get it that old man spoke fluent finnish just because he cared enough to learn, only problem was that hes over 60 so the chances for him to get a job is pretty small. Nobody felt sorry for him he was just one of us. Its like night and day working with the people not been cared for like little babies and the ones that has been. Why not just treat em like any person in our country? They came here so everyone can't like what we have to offer but those that do like it they will adapt.
I'm also a Finswe so I do know whats its like to be seen as someone from the outside, but still babying me would have done nothing else than create more anger among the Fin speaking population.
Then to the real problem in Finland with the need of workers is that the working conditions of the jobs are such that 90% of the people working here would never accept them. You wouldn't agree to work randomly 3 days a week. You wouldn't agree to work 3 weeks per month if the pay is below the limit set by our laws. You wouldn't move 200km for a job that promises only 3 months when the pay is below 2k per month. I assume you wouldn't even work below 3k per month looking at your lack of understanding how fckd up our job market is today. When I was young you went to a company, signed the papers "until death or old age do us part", today you sign "until the company has drained you to death and no one has any use for you again". Yes we do have honest employers still but the ones needing workforce are mostly the ones that ain't that honest or tries to save money by decreasing the workers security. So they are shouting for more and then we have those not knowing our laws working there for the time that is paid by the state and then they let em go. I got fed up on looking at how they abuse people and call it giving them a chance so I left. People using that service has no clue whatsoever what is really going on, they just smile and are happy that the service exists. Why do you think they rather used the Kosovo albans in construction back in the day? Yes because they removed asbest without extra costs or any way of pressuring the building, so you sit in you office sniffing that asbest dust(before you get too scared, back in the day it was openly mixed and I don't ever heard of any place cleaning every spot just because there was asbest used at some point in time). Why do you think so many finnish construction workers lost their jobs when we joined "open borders". Because a helping hand from Finland had a min cost of 23 euros of more per hour while a Estonian one only cost 15 euros. You know the funny part is that the Estonian worker was left with more in his hand per hour than the Finnish one.
It is not the fault of the people coming here, its the system and appeasment aint improving the situation. Like yay you get em tricked here until they find out that as Finns they have rights and you got no slavelabor force to supply you with your personal comfort needs.
They should be told the truth and take it or leave it. Honest and truthful. To fix the low births we only need to make the workmarket secure again by forcing companies to keep a darn "nestegg" like they used to do because no one wants to get kids if they ain't sure they will still have a job in 5 years. Why the foreigners have kids is because their situation improved but their kids will have higher standards and probably demand the same stability as we others do to get kids. Maybe they won't care that much for a generation or two but it will change. Look at any animal, they do not reproduce if the conditions are unsure/unsecure and even eat their young if they believe it will become worse why would humans be different? So maybe babies should be more important than getting a 5% payout for the shareholders every damn year.
So you argue for "we need more people to move here" when its only a kids band-Aid on a ruptured artery.
@@Jonra1 We need to remove everything that is copied from USA and go back to creating our own working system. Like free healthcare back, no private healthcare anymore, remove all private transportation systems and return everything to VR and Matkahuolto. Return everything with electricity back to the ownership of the people, no more fcking shareholding fckers draining it.
We need to return the balance between socialism and capitalism to a level that was working. When we do that then families will start to have 5 kids again. Then remove the dogs and cats from the women so they don't have "wannabe children" to suplement their need to nurture a child and viola men will start to complain again about being forced into fatherhood because the woman want to keep it. Like add a tax of like 200 per month for a dog, less dog poo to step in also so everyone wins. Do not even try to tell me women don't see their dogs as their little child, if you don't believe me then try to take it from em. Or befriend her dog and suddenly you are the perfect man that can be trusted similar reaction they have if their child likes you.
I would say that the majority of the people are not even much xenophobes as per strict definition, they are just wary of strangers until they figure them out. Then there are introverts, who simply do not see any upside in interacting with strangers unless they absolutely have to, applying this to both native and foreign strangers. Lastly, there is the cultural thing where there is nothing wrong to sit in silence, while e.g. riding a bus or waiting for entry to doctors' appointment. Someone, who comes from a different culture may very easily interpret all three as hostility and racism.
How are You ? How are things ? Have You learned any Finnish yet ? Joko olet päässyt alkuun... kielen opiskelussa ? Mitä aikaisemmin päätät - niin sitä nopeammin kielen oppii ? So did you get it...? All the Best
Being a Finn in Finland is hard enough nowadays, so I can only imagine all the problems immigrants might have. The craziest thing is that the current sorry-ass government wants to "fix the economy" with immigration but at the same time they are making life situation for immigrants harder then ever.
Finally I see a Finn tell it like it is. Imagine how you would feel if you were a foreigner in Finland who had somehow got along, making just enough to get by, and then as a friendly gesture, translated W Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret to English, all 10,000 rhymed lines singable to the same tunes. I was satisfied, no complaints, for the five years it went unnoticed. Then all hell broke loose and I was vilified beyond comprehension. To date, not a single Finn has been able to say something like "That was nice of you, Tom, to go to the trouble" or "I am so sorry people have vilified you publicly for doing a good turn." Nope. Not one.
@@ThomasGMcElwain That was nice of you, Tom, to go to the trouble
Neat to hear your perspective on the stuff going on as well as your experience with immigration to Finland
It is not his perspective. It is propaganda paid for by the Finnish government.
The thing is the people who are talking about racism in Finland tend to be finnish born people... and ofcourse there is some racism in every country. (including South-Africa). But for the most part people are not RACIST they just don't like how certani groups act and behave and looking at France and Sweden... can we really blame people being worried. It is sad that a guy like you might get in the midle of this thing that has nothing to do with you :/ I hope everything goes well for you, I really do. You seem like a good person and I don't think every immigrant should be threted as an entity but rather as individuals.
I expect to be treated decently for making a friendly gesture in translating W. Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret into English, instead of being maligned publicly. But Finns apparently are unable to rise to that level. Racism I can understand. But not this.
@@ThomasGMcElwain As a foreigner - We dont talk religion or politics with totally strangers ! I dont know where You were born and raised so - If You would open a little bit - and tell Your values and goals ? Do You share Your values - with anyone on this Planet ?
Finland truly needs more people like you! So glad that you came here, moving to another country and culture must be so difficult, you are a brave man! Great video!
Thank you so much!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
You are one of the lucky ones.
There has been rumours about immigrants that are oblidget to start buildin internment camps at northern parts of Finland to ensure them to stay at those camps until a solution comes to move them to another country.
My friend told me this and he is somewhat in the ranks to get this information.
thanks for this wonderful videos. you have actually increased my hope, Finland is me and my families next point of call.
Hello Brother.
As an African who works abroad ( Dubai ) how can i do to Migrate to Finland ???
Plezse i need your advices
Thanks in advance
Really interesting video. I like to hear your experiences and views of finland and finnish society more!
Lisää tämmöisiä tyyppejä suomeen:) mielestäni tulevat tiukemmat säännöt helpottavat rehellisten ja hyvän asenteen omaavien erottamisen niistä, joita houkuttelee helppo toimeentulo yms. En ole vielä muita videoita katsonut mutta mikäli et vielä ole, niin rohkaisen kuvaamaan myös suomeksi 👍
Hahaha :D So true about bicycles. :D Every single one I ever owned got stolen...chain locked to the building or not. :D And I live in the ultimate high trust west coast small town. :D Weird. Never "borrowed" or stolen one myself, though - not the way I was brought up. ;)
You have amazing attitude, bro. But please give some fertilizer to your poor plants.
Eh, there are approximately three categories of people that come here according to those who were born to parents of the Finnish stock. Immigrants, no problem there, refugees, some problems there and welfare benefit seeker gold diggers, a lot of problems there. One of the problems is: only after a long and serious conversation with most of the people is one upgraded from any category to the next and even then if you are upgraded to immigrant, there still exists the loop between immigrant and welfare benefit seeker that goes on and on. Refugees are in some minds the second best category because for some yet to materialize factor most of those people are supposed to go back to their lands after the conflict, but it rarely happens.
The second honest Finn I see on this thread. Actually, being a foreigner in Finland is hell, and anyone who says differently is frantically trying to flatter Finns into treating them better. The nicer you are to Finns, the faster they will stab you in the back.
Welcome brother 🙏
Fundraising as first job is the worst job possible probably.
IT only for learning - If You can do IT ? Learn learn learn - every day - till You know something !
IT IS learning - If You will learn ?
I really hope the current government motivates more immigrants to activate politically. That will only do good to Finnish politics.
The new party (PS) probably won’t…
@@luxid413 They do, just against them. 😂
Education first - Politics #2
I have to wake you up! Open door immigration will destroy Finland and her Finnish culture. Go downtown London England and you will you are in Uganda, walk the streets in Paris and you’d swear you were in Pakistan. Go shopping in Dallas and find most of the store clerks speak no English. Crime will skyrocket if Finland opens her doors to people of African heritage and Muslims
What for??? Let migrant make politics in their native countries
Totally understandable if the current government confuses you after we just had one of the most progressive governments before this. I think a lot of Finns were a bit taken aback by it too. I know I wasn't happy to find out that half of the people in my town voted for conservative parties >_>
I gotta say I hate the old notion of 'immigrants are just living off of our social benefits'. Sure, some are, but so are a lot of Finns. It's just so much easier for politicians to make it about immigrants specifically.
Just a thought. A governments job is to provide a safe and prosperous country to it's citizens. There are only limited amount of resources that can be given to those in need. So when immigrants come, they are supposed to benefit the society, not take those limited resources away from the citizens.
This is not saying all immigrants are taking the resources away, I'm just saying you can't make that comparison. Every single immigrant taking social support is using the money meant for the citizens. So of course that is something that government needs to consider. What is the best way to go about it, well that I don't know.
People keep trying to tell me that half the Finns are really good people, but I don't buy it. I did free propaganda for Finland for decades, until I finally even went to the trouble to translate W. Malmivaara's entire Siionin virret into the same rhyme and meter in English. That is when it finally hit me that there is no way to appease Finns. The nicer you are to them, the worse they will be to you. When someone breaks rank and says public "Tom, that was a nice gesture," I might start believing in Finns again. But I am not holding my breath. It has been ten years now since I made that mistake and Finns have made my life hell for simply making a friendly gesture.
I'm from Pakistan I wanna immigrate 😢😢but I have no money
Honest,interesting and useful video. Much appreciated!
Paid propaganda.
Congratulations for successful assimilation. After getting abhorred by unexpected doorbell, the next stage is getting annoyed by the freeloaders who vocally complain that they are not receiving enough. The final stage is to develop a strange craving for rye bread and salmiakki, which you just can not explain to foreigners.
Thank you for this video. I hope this video spreads to all over Finland❤
Oh, it will. It is paid propaganda.
good thoughts u have.! :) I´m worried about current situation. How can there be far right accepting people and rasism in our gov. when the whole idea of Finland is equality? imho
Great video.
I am planning on moving to Finland but I am worried about how Finnish people will treat me. I am from Argentina, I already have a job (software engineer contractor) which I intend to keep because I'm very happy with it. So it is not about money or running away from my country. It is just something personal, I always dreamed about living in a nordic country. I studied english in Ireland for almost 2 years and, since I came back to my country I didn't feel at home anymore.
So yes, now with 36 yo and completely alone I want to go there and start a new life...
ps: I have european passport so thats not a problem.
Where are You living now ? Howmuch do You know about Finland in General. - Not with Generals ? Are You able to watch TH-cam - to find out more about Finland ? Like Sibelius - sauna - sisu - What are those ? #2 Have You heard of DARUDE ? #3 Do You know - salmiakki IS like ? #4 What IS The most watched - Sport in Finland ? - What IS The National Game of Finland ? #5 Have Yö ever heard of a Sport called BANDY ? # 6 Have You ever seen any Finnish movies - by Kaurismäki ?
To holoholo;
Your reality of Finland is very strange. If those examples you were giving to a foreign person are Finnish essentials, you yourself, dear Holo, should grow up!
@@holoholopainen1627 I'm in Italy, I know about Finland what you can get on a 1 week visit and plenty of YT videos, besides general knowledge. I haven't heard of DARUDE nor Sibelius/sisu. Idk about the national sport, but I know some sports I'm interested in that are played in Finland. I watched a tv show, a thriller.
I don't get your point..
@@juanpablo4659 If You know nothing - What Do You base Your Life on ? You need to know something - about something ! Older You get - More You know ! In Finland Nobody knows anything about You or Italy / Argentina - so You are travelling - Not Us !
@@MRiitta To You personally ! There are many People that knows these - but If You know something - are You sure that everybody does ? Do You know How long IT takes - to learn a New language ( suomea ) ? If so Please let Me know too - Kiitos
Honestly new party in power is pretty annoying. It's really part of the classic infuriating trend of people moving to right/conservative side when there are economic/social unrest.
It's basically response to retreat to where you are most comfortable and cling into what you have and know. Since that's "safe", and people want feeling of safety, or something external to blame so you can feel more comfortable.
Honestly this is so predictable if you look at the history, which makes it so much more annoying. It's not that I don't have issues with some aspects of migration, but I just think it's overall good, thing, and we need to do it better, like everything. Migrants especially in Finland are just such an small party of population and economy that focusing on that as some solution to any problem is kinda ridiculous, mostly talking about reducing immigration. Reduction is just not going to solve anything. But it's classic popular political point for reason, it works on people. Again annoyingly.
This is why I think we need actual political and economical education included in basic education, so that we can navigate and understand these systems we live in better, and not get caught up in rhetoric and charged environment like now with all the crisis going on. Sometimes I just feel like education is bit too focused on turning us into good workers, not effective members of society financially and politically. Obviously, being good worker is huge part of that, but being able to understand basic systems that govern your life, finance and politics, is super important as well.
as a musician, have you found that finland is a more comfortable country to do music than south africa?
Spot on...The whole video...Kaveri on huomannut paremmin kuin moni suomalainen.Miten tämä maa toimii. Ja millaisia me olemme.Suomi tarvii tekijöitä. Ei olijoita.Verorahat ei tule muuten riittämään pyörittämään tätä maata. Ei ole tulossa uutta Nokiaa tätä maata pelastamaan...
The Nordic countries are famous for tolerance in every way. They are also richer than a lot of other European countries (surprise, surprise a lot of people come for the material benefits and not the culture). Yes, if you move to a place then it's natural to have problems but that's true no matter where you are. Cultural issues are different and that's true everywhere. But remember if you don't like it then you don't have to stay.
Nobody stays in a country - They dont like !
Nice to have you here!
You have a great flow and attitude, i think you could make it anywhere, definitely in Finland. Spot on with your observations. I live in France and i must say Finland should be careful how to play the immigrant card. I see here some individuals integrate well some not, nothing to do with race, but certainly religion and culture. Example from this week, kids started school this week and first huge controversy, muslims traditional abaya costume was banned at schools(as the law goes, no religious signs at school), muslims got upset and nobody is happy, i think school uniforms are making their way, which i think is an cultural change not welcome as this country is known for fashion and clothing and it is part of the national identity(people tend to be well dressed starting young age). Immigration is also financial question, what i see here in France is society, where the "social" cost is getting huge and the rest of the "system" is under stress, like justice system (for small crimes like burglary or assault, it's not unusual that police has not time to investigate and there is no pursuites ), school system is inequal, police is quite bad(huge turnover in big cities, around 10%/year, hard to find new recruit, bad salary and working conditions), healthcare system is also under pressure, inequal, depends a lot where you live. Keep up the good content.
Finns have no business living in other countries, as long as they cannot treat people who come from other countries to Finland with respect. I demand the same respect from others as I give them. The last straw was when I translated W. Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret to English as a friendly gesture and all hell broke loose. I did not expect a prize or even thanks. But I did not expect the insane and diabolical vitriol that Finns have poured on me for doing that. Not a single Finn in the last ten years since I did so has had the desire or courage to defend me.
By the way, after studying four years in France, as a foreigner, I was offered two good jobs that required high skills in French language. My Finnish wife insisted on going back to Finland, which for me has been a mistake. I have lived successfully in six countries. Only Finns have the gall to treat people with such depths of hostility.
@@ThomasGMcElwain Voisitko omin sanoin kertoa että mitä niissä sanotaan ? Suurimmalla osalla suomalaisista ei ole mitään käsitystä mistä - olet nämä kirjoitukset löytänyt ? In English - most FINNS have not idea - What You are talking about ? How Well do You read and write Finnish ? You are blaming someone - that has no knowledge - what kind of values - You are bringing to the table ?
@@holoholopainen1627 I translated a 19th-century text, W. Malmivaaraˀs Siionin virret, which was sung by tens of thousands of people for over 70 years. It is a part of Finnish cultural history. While I never thought about thanks for doing so, I should not have been publicly vilified for it and I should have been defended. To date, no one has gone to Herattaja Yhdistys and said "Why have you treated this man so despicably?"
I lectured in Finnish at the University of Turku for several years, which required a paper signed by Prof Kangasmaa-Minn at the time, stating that my Finnish was good enough to lecture there. The problem is not with my translating ability, but with Finns who have no manners and no shame. Even if I had done a horrible job, the response should have been, "Tom, that was nice of you to make that effort."
The only thing that can be said against me is that I have complained of the way I have been treated. But that seems to be an even greater sin. Until this is made right, I shall do everything in my power to expose Finns for the xenophobic and disgraceful people they are. Finns have had ten years to put this right, it has been in several newspapers, and other magazines, and still there is neither acknowledgment nor apology.
@@ThomasGMcElwain This IS GREAT ! Thanks for telling everything here openly - and letting us know what You have been thru ! When did this all took place ? Did You get to know any other People - than Your lovely workmates ? Täytyy sanoa ettei minulla ole mitään hajua - että mistä joku on saanut päähänsä - edes aloittaa oleskelunsa Suomessa tällä tavalla !
@@ThomasGMcElwain Could You tell us - What IS Your own " Faith " - or do You have any ?
Thank you! You have the right attitude! All the best to you and your family ❤️🙏!
Attitude will not help. The nicer you are to Finns, the faster they will stab you in the back.
Interested 😁
Great video bro !
Paid propaganda or desperate attempt to flatter Finns into treating him better. It does not work. The nicer you are to Finns the faster they will stab you in the back.
Hi! Is there any WhatsApp group for Finland?
Not that I know of. But there are Facebook groups!
Sounds so much propaganda-like!) Xenophobic mood in Finland is as high as ever these days. Many of the points you explained gone far in the past, unfortunately (
I understand and respect so much your approach for self-sufficiency, but Finland sounds as a very strange choice for such people.
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For me every single one like you are more than welcome to Finland! Government should realize that we need immigrants to come work here both lower level jobs and in jobs that require high level of expertice. What comes to those that are only interested in social security and have zero motivation to go forward, they just don't work here. Economy is bad enough already. Something has to be done to integration system to make sure that for example assylum seekers have possibility to provide for themselves. Of course it doesn't take away the problem that some people may still just lay back and just enjoy the benefits. Tricky questions, hard political discussions. Either way there is no room for racisim whatsoever. Keep on the good work and great video! 😎
No one is coming to Finland to work as an engineer for a salary of 4500€ to pay 2000€ in taxes and live in one of the most expensive countries by cost of living in Europe. The immigration we get is mostly arabs, somalis etc coming from complete hellholes to abuse Europes naive wellfare system, no matter which country because they only want the money and don't even plan to try to integrate.
They have completely different mentality and culture. They see European kindness as being weak. That's why they force kids to lick their shoes, are violent, get in crime and drugs to prove their manliness. Even in Finland Mc's are already completely out of the drug business because of immigeants who are driving 60k€ cars bought with drug money. For once could we not follow Swedens policies to avoid complete destruction.
Thank you for a great and inforrmative video.
Paid propaganda. They got their money, they do not need your thanks.
You rock bro.
This is paid propaganda or someone who is desperate to flatter Finns in the vain hope they will treat him better.
Dont like it go
Our new goverment isn't good for anybody who gets less than 3000€/month from job. Or if you don't have job right now it's going to be cold ride (even colder than jannuary). We just have to hope that they find little bit of humanity in them before it's too late. Respect for you, keep it up!
What do you mean exactly? I'm a student and earn way less than 3000e/month and I don't see a problem. The previous government on the other almost taxed me to the streets.
@@MrBeebeesee mayby we then just live in different realitys. I'm happy that you are happy and don't see the problem. There is nothing I can say to change your view and I don't want or care to.
Foreigners who flatter Finns are just desperately trying to get them to treat them better. The country is hell for foreigners and anyone who says otherwise is a flatterer or getting paid for propaganda. There is NO way to appease Finns. The nicer you are to them, the faster they will stab you in the back.
Grrreat video, Chiko❤ Siltanen openmic star🎉
Paid propaganda.
Have You ever heard of The National Game of Finland ? There Are somany People that no idea - what - where - and WHO discovered IT ?
That has no idea ! This Game IS just a about as Old as Our 1917 - Independence ! No Everybody Could travel to America - and the Most Finns that did - Never came back ! So Most People never seen Baseball - in Real Life !
I am waiting - What IS The National Game of Finland ?
The answer IS FINNISH BASEBALL called PESÄPALLO ! There were many that were close - as many said Ice Hockey ! Ice hockey is the Biggest Sport - but Not The National Sport ! Games has over 100 Season - and IS The Greatest pastime in Finland ! Thanks to TH-cam - More and More has seen a video of The Game ! At Helsinki Olympics ( 1940 to 1952 ) - The game was an exhibition game - buy The RULES were taken to MELBOURNE 1956 Games ! As There are Aussies - that still know & play The Game !
The national game of Finland is state-sponsored child-trafficking.
Pesäpallo would be a Great way to get to know - the local People !
Finish people are prejudice
Terve! Bro
get out
Have You heard of salmiakki ? Try some - or watch some TH-camrs - do IT for You ! Many has never heard of salmiakki - so They have no idea What Finlands #1 Candy taste like ! Salmiakki IS as Finnish as FINNISH BASEBALL ! Many heard of The game and its 100 year history - but never seen IT being played ! Like One American has more than 2 million likes - Even He has never been to a single game ! He IS just cashing in - with His Paapalaapa - talked Video !
Europe has enough migrants. No offense but we don't want new ones even though they might be well mannered
That is objectively untrue. You are confusing your own bigotry for facts or economic needs. Europe needs skilled workers and there are plenty that are more than willing to contribute their talents. Too bad for you.
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