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Hammock Suspensions Part 2...Descender Rings & Tree Straps
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2017
- Suspension Part 1.... • Hammock Suspensions Pa...
Descending Rings.....shop.whoopiesli...
and.....www.rei.com/pr...
Tree Straps & Huggers....dutchwaregear....
and...www.jacksrbette...
and 1.5 inch straps....www.arrowhead-...
AMSTEEL CONTINUOUS LOOPS...dutchwaregear....
Hammockforums.net
Wilderness Logics Snipe Hammock......wildernesslogic...
Dutch Clips....dutchwaregear....
Sew On Dutch Clips.....dutchwaregear....
I hope I'm not the only one here who doesn't even hammock camp and just loves watching Shug. :D
I am humbled!!!
I don't hammock camp. I would but most deserts don't have real trees for hammocks. Shug's channel is one of my favorites. So much talent and knowledge.
I've been thinking about getting a hammock
Yup, i don't hammock camp. No idea why I watch this lollygagger othet than he is very entertaining even with a topic I'm not bery intetested in.
I tried it but with 2 herniated discs in my lower back it did not help any and was actually more uncomfortable than ground dwelling. I had many people with back problems tell me it's much better for them. Yes I love watching Shug I get something from everyone of his videos. Even though I don't hammock camp I like knowing about it and he seems to have experience with almost all the different options.
I agree with the comments. I've been watching your channel for years, and always come away from each video having learned something, in a really enjoyable way. Hats off to you and many thanks...J
Thanks for the tip of the hat.
Ah man ... another good video and a mo'betta Dad promoting his daughter's handy work! Will be keeping an eye ball or two out for that link pal!
She asked. I did. How ya' doing Hawkustus?
shugemery Hanging in there and eating too much Turkey and fixings for the last four days! Hope you and yours are doing well!
That ring suspension is perfect!
And wool hats are WARM!
It does work. Yes to wool!
WOW ! It always amazes me how much I learn from your vids. Thanks for your time.
Y'elcome and thanks!
I have been hammock camping for almost 20yrs now, i love this series its awesome, if ur ever in West Virginia give me a shout.
Thankee feller!
Whoooo! you are soooo right about the slippery half hitch. Snipe is my favorite hammock. Levitate On !
I been down on the terra firma without it!
I have't to say Shug, You know how to make a 0l' Man smile (even laugh out load sometimes). I sure do enjoy your comedy and all the things you throw out to us. And I really need your help on Hammocks and Hang'n them. Thanks again. =)
I gotta have some fun doing these or I would never do them. Thankee.
Great job yet again. Got the 2” webbing as I’m here in Florida. I’ve got several sets of rings with a new usage. Thanks again
Shug. You need to smell nitro exhaust as you impart control movement in your C/L ship
Getting frosy here now but may if the sno holds off...soon as there is time. Been a busy one.
Wrong finger. LOL. Thanks for the share. My best to you and yours for the Holidays. Say hello to Hickory and M/K for us as well.
Mucho appreciato.....
Cheers Shug, good info and tips👍
Y'elcome.
Shug thank you for this series! Just joined the forums and purchased my first camping hammock. Thanks again!
Enjoy the hammock quest!
Shug! Excellent instruction with great videography showing details. And also funny and entertaining! Thank you!
I thank you too.
Shug....I feel like we're old pals. Thanks for your videos I love to watch your talent sir!
Cyber Pals!
"Represent out there!"
I never thought I'd hear those exact words from our sage Shug. But do it, Represent out there. And also, every chance you get, Be the Ball! (Danny).
Never thought I would say that.
Always good stuff from Shug!
Thankee.
Thank You Sir, this is great for new folks and a good reminder for those that have done this before. It is always good to get a refreasher.
Aye and thankee.
you bet ya....
I'm new to your channel Shug, and getting into hammocking (again). I've had a HH Expedition Classic XL for years now, but haven't used it much. I'm having 2QZQ do Mod #4 to add zips to remove the bug net. Not a big fan of the HH attachment system, and thinking of going to the twin descender rings and continuous loop suspension as you show here. First I have to get my hammock back from DutchGear with the mod completed. :-) Thanks for posting all these videos - they're really helpful - and entertaining to boot!
You will enjoy that mod.
Freedom to open up now.
Enjoy the comfort quest.
Lots of clarity in these explanations, I was having trouble envisioning this explanations, but now it is starting to sink in. I hope you will explain in some detail about the ridge line, what it's for and how it works.
Violá....th-cam.com/video/xrfBrIEH2-U/w-d-xo.html
Yay for your daughter being an entrepreneur! A really warm pair of sleep socks would be right up my alley!
I love the "slippery" half hitch although I never heard it called that. I know it's not a slip knot but I always called it that. I like slippery half hitch better and am going to steal that term from you Shug!
I stole it too! Check her store...she is working on knitting more of the wool slippers as she calls them.....www.etsy.com/shop/KnittyGrittyChicago?ref=listing-shop2-all-items-count#items
She actually may have sold the socks she had in stock today!
Shug family is soooo talented. The hat is amazing! I would so love one!
She got the knitting gene from her Irish Aunties...we love it.
At 3:04, you should have seen me nodding harder and harder at the TV with you laughing at me! :-D Hahahaha Whoooooo buddy!
Love it.
I'm definitely gonna hafta have a Shug hat! Keep us posted.
She is open.....only 2 left now. Then she will take orders.......www.etsy.com/listing/572506119/the-shug-hat?ref=shop_home_feat_3
That's is the coolest video intro chair thingy ever haha. Great vid. I'm just learning about tarp setup and hammock suspension. Your videos have been super useful.
Whoooooo Buddy)))))
Never knew Kevlar broke down by UV, good to know. Like your advocacy to represent tree conservation by using straps....public needs to see and know we are nature lovers 👍👍
Them woodpeckers are hard on trees! Thankee.
You are one heck of a good father Shug! Great helpful video, thank you for sharing with us. Respect and best regards -Yves
The one thing in life I try to do right! Thank you.
well said. keep on keepin on man, hope your daughters etsy store is a huge success
Thanks. She is excited to have something out there. Knits them all by herself!
Can’t wait to try these suspensions! Thanks Shug❤️✌🏻
Carry forth.....
Definitely can't wait for your daughter to set up her site. Please let us know. Love the video's Shug.
She is knitting like crazy and will take orders as well. Should be pretty soon. Thankee!
You the man Shug! I just got my first set of whoopie slings from Dutchware they are amazing.
I can't get enought whoopie>>>>>>>>whoopie slings or whoopie pies.
I'm going too try and make a hammock myself first to see how I get on with it. Thanks for the links very handy.
Yessir!
Great explanation. I've yet to try descender rings. But, I'm sure i will soon. It looks super easy. Plus, it's kinda fun to say "descender rings". At least i think it is.
It is real easy. Thankee.
Another great instructional entertaining video Shug! And I'm definitely going to snap up some of those sleeping socks!
Those socks are nice and loose and warm. I wear a light pair of possum down socks under mine for deep winter sleeping in the hammock.
i am so glad i saved those seatbelts from a car i junked, they will make great tree straps
they will hold ya
Thanks Shug!
Y'elcome.
You sir are a national treasure. Thanks for doing what you the way you do it. ;)
I do get a lot of questions on this so hoping to clarify and be able to steer folks towards clarity on the subject.
The descender ring idea seems brilliant. Seems better than whoopie slings, even though it means you don't get to say whoopie sling a lot :P Can't believe how cheap they are for you though. Over here in Australia they are $17 each!!
It is considered a bit old school but works like a charm.
I'm a big dude so I use 5/8 climbing webbing for my ridge line and continuous loop.
Whooooo Buddy))))
Thanks man
I've just got a Tentsile T-Mini hammock, a strange thing that ha 3 suspension points
peace and love from Bristol, England
Those are wild looking!
They sell it in army navy store I think the belt buckle might work on different straps
Well done Shug..
Thanks for the video
I appreciate it.
Glad I found this channel :)
Thanks feller.
Would have liked to see that descender ring fail in slow-mo a second time around with appropriate sound effects.
That hat looks pretty well made. I mean, not like a typical "thing I gotta wear cuz my aunt made it and mom makes me put it on when she comes to visit" kinda thing. It actually looks like a tight wool thread pattern that will hold up to regular use.
...and the other kids won't make fun of you because there's a reindeer face and little annoying bells on it...
Yessir.
You are the best!! Thanks Shug.
Whooooo Buddy))))
you're a strapping man LOL
I had an end rope break on a grand trunk once...OUCH
I too have plummeted. Happens fast!
Lmao good thing you was not to high in the air when it let loose
Only hang as high as you are willing to fall! Good mantra....
Shug, shameless plug for your daughter’s business ain’t shameless at all. Great material as always, brother!
It is a side business for her so just doing some promo for the daughter. She does great work.
I use rope but I also use a piece of rubber hose that goes around the tree along with the rope so I don't hurt the tree and I put my carabiners on that
Righto.
Can’t wait to get my Shug hat!
She hopes to get the Etsy shop live soon. Thankee.
Extremely informative, thank you good sir!
Y'elcome and thankee.
well do! LNT with tree straps
Gotta use 'em....Thanks.
Handmade SHUG HATS!!! whoot!
Daughter made.
Hands close to the heart. Cheers!
I like that wool cap 🙂👍 I'd buy one
She sold out for now! But she is knitting more. Thankee.
Would also love a diy on you hand warmers
I bought them years ago. These are close....www.wristies.com/Specialized_Wristies_s/526.htm
Search you tube for DIY wristies.
Awesome!
👏
Two more great vids Shug!! Always enjoy them. Have you ever tried a pair of large NiteIze Figure 9 carabiners? I use them on my Hennessey, and love them.
Thanks. I used the small ones on my tarp way back when. Not used them on hammocks.
What in your opinion what hammock would be a good all round summer/ winter hammock ? I Will have one of those hats of your daughter looks great. 😎
Dutchware Chameleon or Warbonnet XLC. Both have removable bugnet.
Hope the sleep socks will be available in XL (size 15 shoe). Just ordered one of the new Blackbird XLC’s since they are reversible like the chameleon. Do you know if the underquilt is reversible? Also, do you still use your Amock. You seemed to like it when you first got it, but haven’t seen or heard from it since.
The rings without the knot will hold you if you use a rope, because then the rings can really 'bite' into it. It's held me for quite some nights now.
Good to know....
Very helpful. Thank you.
Y'elcome.
Hi Shug, I’ve been watching a bunch of your videos as I have just got my first hammock (wise owl double) as a present. I don’t really like the loop straps that came with and was wondering what 1 or 2 options you would recommend to replace them? I like the idea of cam buckles or Whoopie sling but wanted your opinion as I am just starting out and didn’t want to wast money. Thanks again for any help:)
Cinch buckles are a nor brainer. I am a whoopie sling user but started with cinch buckles. I still use them fairly often.
dutchwaregear.com/product/ti-cinch-buckle-complete-suspension/#ti-cinch-buckle-amsteel-loop-pair
Ok, so I have an ENO knock-off, with steel S-hooks on each end of the hammock. For straps I use cargo straps I already owned, hook them around the trees using their own S-hooks. I then tie a slippery half hitch in the strap with a long loop, hook the hammock S-hook in the loop, make the loops larger or smaller to adjust the hammock, then tie another slippery half hitch at the back of the first half hitch to fix it in place, like you did on the descender rings. Is this viable, or are there drawbacks to what I am doing?
You sound good to go. There are so many ways to hang a hammock.
That's the best suspension because you can string tree to tree faster than Ray Mears and the hammock don't touch the ground. I'm gona need an XL Shug hat.
I forgot how easy they are! Kinda old school now.
That is one sexy knot, shugg. Lol. I love watching your channel.
Oh yes.....oh yes.....
Awesome video!!!
Thankee.
I educated a tree roper the other day. I try to be nice and just let them know that in one of the parks I camp, hammocks aren't allowed because of people tearing up a tree with rope. I was guilty in my early batman days.
Years and years ago I was guilty as well. I'm glad to see most off shelf hammocks coming with straps these days. Though I do think Nature and woodpeckers and stuff are tough on trees too. Also just lookout the bare muddy ground where tents go. It is unsightly to me sometimes. I think many Parks are really kinda uneducated on hammock camping so I always tote a hammock stand for State Parks most places. Though I usually avoid camping in them and prefer backpacking. Ain't nothing never perfect!
So how do I get some wooly goodies Shug ? Socks & hat, "no link shown old chap" ( in a Terry Thomas voice there )
Her shop just went live........www.etsy.com/shop/KnittyGrittyChicago?ref=l2-shopheader-name
Hope she still has some left!!!!
Thankee.
Would love your opinion on drip lines in this series
This.....th-cam.com/video/J1OXNc_JEPc/w-d-xo.html
Getting cold in Upper Michigan any word on the 'Shug Hat's" Esty store? Thanks
She will let me know when she gets some knitted up...coming soon!
i honesty thought that short sleeve jacket was a costco down blanket mod. might be possible with some sewing and snaps
Be crafty!
Love your vids Shug, and my 6 & 3 year old daughters love em too! Question if you can answer - I notice one side of your backyard suspension is attached to your fence post? How sturdy is it? I just installed two 8ft 4x4s in about 2.5 feet of concrete in my backyard. I have a pergola style board running in between them to act as a brace to keep them from caving in or shifting. Do you ever worry about your fence coming down on you? I’m not so worried about just plain hanging but I worry about my girls swinging in the hammock. Honestly they seem solid but I am a worry wart....
They are sunk 4 feet in the ground per Minnesota code. Been hanging on it since 2007. The fence is over-built and all the rest of the fencing adds strength. Hickery and I built it.
Proceed with caution!
Any chance your daughter is gonna do another run of shug hats. Unfortunately she was sold out
By the time I saw the link to her etsy site
She is taking custom orders for now. Thankee.
How about whoopie slings during winter? Do they freeze?
Only once did I have some freeze a bit. I just ran my closed hand up and down the constrictor and the friction loosened it right up.
th-cam.com/video/MPDPEEcKlDQ/w-d-xo.html
Would you slippery half hitch a Dutchware beetle buckle suspension?
I don't and mine has never slipped if set up correctly.
love it.. ..the real deal..
i use something like it.. oh no, different or maybe.. ..mmm
aaaah gear ..
love the hat. superbe
Sometimes I think I may go back to them. So easy to adjust.
shugemery yeah.. the best thing about it, I think, it allows me to really squeeze in a tight spot between trees. I got the rings fixed to the tree strap and put the ridge line though it.. with the rings close to the tree I can squeeze in at close to tarp width. Also, triangle rings bite better in rope.. ah so much fun tweeking!
I made my tree straps out of 3/4" wide Mule Tape. I go around the tree twice. Do you think that is good enough to protect the tree?
Should be just fine.
thanks my friend.
need help with a very strechie woven material on my Hammett.we hit the ground no matter how far or high the straps are placed
If your straps are nylon they will stretch. Poly straps fair much better.
dutchwaregear.com/product-category/hammock-gear/hammock-suspensions/straps-huggers/
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Thanks for the tips and knots course! By the way, I'm still waiting for Ariel (sorry if I misspelled it) to come back to me so I can order her wool hat. Do you know when they will be available again?
She is performing on a cruise ship in Australia and New Zealand so it could be not until 2019.
She is sorta off the grid right now.
@@shugemery oh wow! Ok thank you for the report. I will wait! Take care!
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What do you do if your suspension brakes out in the woods
Improvise! I carry an extra tree strap.
I am working on getting stuff to go backpacking I did make some of my gear evey thing I have I store it in my pack I weigh it this morning 289 pounds lol I can't carry all that 😅
hope this isn't a stupid question, but, could you accomplish the same spreading of load that you get from a strap by using multiple windings of a rope? such that there is no greater stress to the tree than a strap would give?
Straps are best on the trees. An image thing we need to project. Some use amsteel or the likes and place small sticks under the rope.
I've taken to the "belt and suspenders" approach to protecting Minnesota State Park trees by using 1" webbing AND sticks. Because I have a ridgeline, I can cinch down tight on my webbing, so I set it up loose and then insert a few beefy sticks between webbing and bark, then I hammer down on the webbing.
gotcha. thanks for the replies Shug and Irvingdog
Shug hats!
That is what she calls them.
Your daughter might want to start knitting like Arachne in turbo-mode, given that she will receive a slew of orders when her site opens.
She may need 8 arms!
Brilliant! But a dog man is a ground dweller..... Do like the dutch clips do! ;)
I camp with a hammock guy who sets a lil tent up for his shepard...pretty cool...see it at 15:09 in this video th-cam.com/video/1IKC4nHpGNc/w-d-xo.htmlm9s
Would that dangling webbing act as a rain guard as well?
Yes if under the tarp. Even better to take the free dangling end and bring it up and tie it off behind rings toward hammock...th-cam.com/video/J1OXNc_JEPc/w-d-xo.html
Do you need the loop or can you just clik your karabiner on Them?
You could just go webbing, daisy chain webbing and biner. Skip the descender rings. Is that what your asking?
@@shugemery No i mean still have the webbing and the rings but instead of the armsteel loop i could just clik my carabiner on the rings
I never tried that....only one way to find out. Let me know if it works. Or not.
hang on I've not watched part one yet!
Any order works....
I would like to buy a hat ... but I am bald... will these hats itch my head?.... Shug come up to the 100 mile wilderness in Maine!
It might if other wool hats itch your head. But super warm in cold over a balaclava.
i was looking for a good wool hat. will it ship to the united kingdom? how much does it stretch as i’ve got a big head. ( not much going on in there just a big head) . cheers
She says she will be able to ship them. Like all wool...a little bit of stretch.
thanks looking forward to getting one
Are those pants available on your online store ? LOL , just kidding my friend. ✌
Yes... Calvin Clown!
try a army belt
my pants may fall down then!
Shut hats are sold out darn it!
She will get to knitting............
If you tie a hitch knot then no need the 2 rings:)
Righto....many ways to rig a suspension....
@@shugemery many companies just invent new system to complicate the process to make money and in reality all you need is a strap and some basic knots:)
You look like Cappy Coalmen in the thumbnail...
I sorta am Cappy
Yeah right, and Kent's the Maple King...
did Shug just flip us the bird?
Not you....the other guy!
Oops! Wrong finger! LOL
Sometimes that finger is useful though....haaaa
My neoprene beenie just doesn't do it for me anymore.
Whoooooo Buddy)))))
Wrong finger 😆
Sometimes it is the correct finger...in some situations!! haaaa
muletape works good ebay
Yessir. I have some but don't end up using it much. Kinda just don't like the looks of it. Prefer black webbing.
yeh i need some dye. lol to white
Second time i have watched one of Shugs new videos and there has been 2 dislikes....must be the pants....
There is a lot of pants-envy at work these days.....