It has never surprised me that Nietzsche loved Emerson. Emerson was what I like to call an "incurable optimist", and Emerson was also someone who clearly walked his own path in life. I think Nietzsche sensed in Emerson both of those qualities, and obviously he greatly admired life affirmation and independence of mind.
I think Nietzsche gained courage from Emerson --courage to completely ignore academic philosophy and concentrate his energies on wisdom. In Emerson we find a contemporary version of a sage and of someone who sees philsosophy as the pursuit of an art of living.
This comes to my mind as I hear you summarizing Emerson's philosophy: “there is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.” ― Miyamoto Musashi, The Book of Five Rings
I love making these connections between thinkers. It also makes the history of ideas feel more alive. Would be great to do more like this. Maybe wittgenstein and kierkegaard?
Ah thanks Tim y'know I hadn't even been thinking that that's what I was doing I was just trying to make an interesting angle to approach the video from and I guess a pattern has emerged! I shall investigate this Wittgenstein/Kierkegaard connection and see if there's something I can work with thanks for the feedback and idea!
"Good prose is written only face to face with poetry." -- Alan Moore in a nutshell. This is so true that the very best prose is such a perfect inversion of poetry that in seeing it one gazes into it's mirror image and sees poetry itself.
If I had to pick one writer who shaped my thinking more than any other it would be Emerson, along with his compadres, Whitman and Thoreau. He’s so eminently quotable and here are my Top 10 favourites of his: 1. *Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.* 2. *Make your own Bible. Select and collect all the words and sentences that in all your readings have been to you like the blast of a trumpet.* 3. *It is easy in the world to live after the world's opinion; it is easy in solitude to live after our own; but the great man is he who in the midst of the crowd keeps with perfect sweetness the independence of solitude.* 4. *Once you make a decision, the Universe conspires to make it happen* 5. *Though we travel the world over to find the beautiful, we must carry it with us, or we find it not.* 6. *A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day.* 7. *You become what you think about all day long.* 8. *The good news is that the moment you decide that what you know is more important than what you have been taught to believe, you will have shifted gears in your quest for abundance. Success comes from within, not from without.* 9. *Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string.* 10. *There is a time in every man's education when he arrives at the conviction that envy is ignorance; that imitation is suicide; that he must take himself for better, for worse, as his portion; that though the wide universe is full of good, no kernel of nourishing corn can come to him but through his toil bestowed on that plot of ground which is given to him to till. The power which resides in him is new in nature, and none but he knows what that is which he can do, nor does he know until he has tried.* Like the stars ✨ in the firmament there are countless others, but perhaps I should end with this, thereby not taking Emerson’s advice: *I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.*
@@beerman204 Emerson is not revered as much as most people assume he should because, in somewhat of his own words-- HIS PHILOSOPHY ABSOLVES YOU TO YOURSELF,-- does not bind you.
Please give it a like if you enjoyed! ⌛ Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 1:56 Nietzsche Long Love for Emerson 5:45 Nietzsche Contra Emerson 7:15 Emerson’s Influence in Nietzsche’s Work 10:40 The Biographical Explanation for Their Affinity
@@TheLivingPhilosophy As a newcomer to philosophy I have plodded through many videos, but your presentation took me INTO their world, that can only come through empathy and respect. Again, thank you.
Wow finally someone else noticed, lol great video, Ive owned “An Elective affinity” & “The Romance of Individualism” for 10 years and dont know why others hadnt seen the connection yet either. Thanks again, favd!
It's funny I've seen this book Elective Affinity mentioned a good bit in the comments on the video on Reddit and while I came across a few books in my studies on the two men that one somehow slipped me by. Have you read it? Would you recommend? Or maybe the romance of individualism? This is my first hearing of that one
@@TheLivingPhilosophy both i consider THE Nietzsche/Emerson books, it’s definitely great reading especially considering you already have knowledge of their relationship.
I read Max Stirner, noticed the similarilty with Self-Reliance, also noted in the introduction to Stirner that people had speculated Nietsche was influenced by Stirner, and found the possible connection here. thanks for this.
Hi James. Great work. In my humble point of view, Emerson reflected Nietzsches self awareness of the part that conditions play in ones lifes. If it helps, the cultural difference approach but also pull them apart... In Emerson, ones feel the freedom of contemplating on both sides, Europe is a different fruit cake, as you know, and always Had a Keen interest for polarized theory with room for no Integration. I think, that maybe, we was in love with that responsable freedom. Thank you again for your work and trully wish you are as happy as you Can humanly be, for what your work as driven me to. Kind regards.
Wow - it’s amazing to discover this. Thank you. I’ve been re reading Nietzsche this year and trying to separate wheat from chaffe. No other philosopher has resonated with me but at the same time I find so much seeming contradictions in his work, ones that can be observed even in from his poetic flourishes down into the geometry of his metaphysics. I think most can be understood as emanating from alienation and loneliness that led him to misanthropy as a way of validating and sustaining himself and his work in the absence of supportive relationships. But would we have his work if Nietzsche didn’t have his personal/emotional/psychological struggles? Perhaps one must feel misunderstood in order to offer the world new understandings as suggested by that Emerson quote you included. It’s nice to know that Nietzsche found some lasting kinship with Emerson that wasn’t idealization followed by repulsion or rejection like most of his relationships. I have read some Emerson but will now be re reading end continue my Nietzsche studies aided by a new perspective. Reading and contemplating Nietzsche has been akin to a spiritual practice for me, and I appreciate so much what you have offered here.
This is brilliant I have no idea why I missed it along the way. A book I’m actually reading had a chapter on Emerson. His work on self reliance particularly interested me. Did a TH-cam search on Emerson and self reliance....and guess who popped up! Self reliance, personal responsibility and being/living as an individual really float my boat so to speak. So many people look for others to not only fix their lives they almost seek for others to live it for them. That’s existing not living in my view. Life’s is there to be experienced.
The affinities had occurred to me years back when I made my way through Kauffman’s "Portable Nietzsche." Two convergences that occur to me foremost is how Emerson rereads Christianity (as opposed to Nietzsche, who never really manages to totally shake off its weight and in his last Antichrist, inveighs terribly at it) and how he (Emerson) avails himself (nay, was fundamentally influenced by them) of the "Vedanta" and "Upanishads" (and also,his meditative practice or possible mystical experience of nature sketched briefly in Emerson's "Journals"). Nietzschecontinues as a preacher to the end...desconstructing traditional Christianity: Emerson flings it off as if he were in zero gravity (I suggest K.V. Raghupathi’s study “Emerson’s Orientalism” and the influence - very few American critics, including Harold Bloom, really understand this). The other, of course, is the relationship between Zarathustra and Emerson’s transcendental man or woman. Nietzsche’s "ubermensch" degrades into something usable for the Nazis; whereas Emerson is taken up by Henry Ford, positive thinking self-help…for American boosterism and materialism (anyone who knows Emerson’s works deeply will see its deep underlying spirituality and ethical concerns, but a shallow reading will just make him the 19th century Dale Carnegie).
Nature is made to conspire with spirit to emancipate us. Ralph Waldo Emerson A leading edge and discerning presentation of Emerson's profound influence on Nietzsche. Did Emerson perhaps come from another dimension/planet as his writings are infused with such divinity and the deepest of otherworldy insights? Ty for showcasing this natural tie between Nietzsche and the Concord savant. For Nietzsche to have admired Emerson is a testament by itself to Emerson's genius. Emerson and Nietzsche are intellectual forces of nature. In military terms imo, Nietzsche represents the Navy Seals in his relentless, disciplined pursuit of exposing the Eliotian "wasteland culture" and the pervasive "hollow men." Emerson then might represent a Top Gun air fighter with a precision fighter focus on the vast endless spiritual horizons and his full spectrum awareness presented in his sublime writings so uplifting to the human spirit. No man is truly educated until he has read Emerson and made progress in understanding the intellectual force and "satori" he illuminated. Please continue expanding the links of these intellectual brothers in arms with your philosophical expertise. More Emerson and more Nietzsche in future videos, please. New US subscriber.
They also shared a deep interest in Vedic studies. Interestingly N parts company from E in rejecting some sort of transcendental basis for existence. And yet at times in his writing that is hardly apparent.
"His hidden meaning lies in our endeavours; Our valors are our best gods." - Emerson I did wonder why Nietsche thought Emerson was like Zarathustra... this is good thanks.
I can understand how Emerson would have been an inspiration to Nietzsche, although I was unaware that he was until now. I might never have connected the two had I not seen this, so thank you!
That's great Ronaldo delighted to introduce you to him! I'd highly highly recommend Self-Reliance as a starting point it's an inspiring work of potent beauty while being short enough to quickly digest. Here's a link to an online version archive.vcu.edu/english/engweb/transcendentalism/authors/emerson/essays/selfreliance.html
Another outstanding presentation, Made me realise that both had profound relationships to the Earth and their various ''landscapes of thought'' - as proto-ecological thinkers.... much to consider here! Many thanks, Mark.
The Living Philosophy-- tell me, what is my more definite remedy for not feeling sleepy reading any hard copy, or falling asleep listening to any audio of the essays of Ralph Waldo Emerson?
I’m far from a Nietzsche scholar, but whenever I read him, I find myself fluctuating between shooting holes through his arguments and saying, “Wait a minute. That’s *me* he’s talking about!”
@@TheLivingPhilosophy This is a great emerging channel. Nietzsche and Emerson are my two favorite philosophers, though I was unaware that Nietzsche had read Emerson. I think what the two have most in common is an attitude of self-reliance. Emerson promoted self-reliance and regarded it as something important , but it was so innate to Nietzsche that it was something he didn’t even think about; he lived it. Anyway, great work once again.
@@TheLivingPhilosophy If you’d like a suggestion, some videos on the topic of The Matrix movie series would probably really pull in some viewers/subscribers. Lots of people connect The Matrix to Gnosticism, but I think it could be connected to characters like Nietzsche, Emerson, and Jung. IMO Nietzsche’s ubermensche is the equivalent of Neo in The Matrix. “Nietzsche and The Matrix” would offer some fresh insight into a fairly worn out topic.
@@thinkneothink3055 Now that is a CRACKING idea. I'm gonna rewatch the Matrix someday soon (I've been meaning to anyway) and take some notes and see what bubbles up. Thanks for the idea!
@@TheLivingPhilosophy Both “Thus Spoke Zarathustra” and “Human, All Too Human” come to mind as works of Nietzsche’s that might serve for making the comparison. If I were doing what I’m suggesting (which I won’t be) I’d be looking at in terms of psychology. In my own experience and thinking, The Matrix is the very social nature of humans. If we aspire to do something great we have to fight elements like doubt, fear of failure, and fear of success: all resultant of our social nature. We create The Matrix in our minds, and Nietzsche illustrates this well in his writing. If you’d like to hear some more ideas feel free to send me a message at thinkneo1111@gmail.com. Otherwise I’ll be watching for new videos on your channel.
Great informative video. About a month ago I got into Nietzsche. Don't know nothing about the other guy. I guess it's time to learn about him. Random question where are u from? You have a cool voice/accent.
Thanks Makaveli! Emerson's a great philosopher I'd highly recommend Self-Reliance as a starting point. It's a short read but an utterly life-changing one. And as for your random question! I'm Irish. From a city in the southwest called Limerick but I guess my accent was softened by the need to be understood when living in Scotland and Australia
@The Living Philosophy I read most of Nietzsche’s works before turning to Emerson. I have read Self-Reliance as well with a similar response; it changed my life to hear, for once, that it is indeed not a blameworthy thing to be an individual with his own distinct sense of judgement, which has developed in solitude owing to reflection on data and experience revealed to you alone and to nobody else. Nietzsche and Emerson knew more concretely than anybody I have encountered so far the unbelievably profound individuality of the life lived by each and every individual, whether or not they behave individually in thought, act or presentation. Many might call these men incapacitated, mentally and socially, whereas the truly philosophic type must recognize the magnificent understandings they had about nature, health, relation to the world and experience. I have also read a number of Emerson’s essays, he has become a favorite writer and human being to me. I find in Nietzsche and Emerson an innocent, naked approach to being, as can be said regarding for instance phenomenology. Once reality has been de-clothed of judgements, false identifications and other impediments to the awareness of life’s fullness, there seems to arise both a scientific and an aesthetic-poetic curiosity about... virtually everything. I like to think Nietzsche and Emerson related the great sense of poetic splendor and fulfillment that follows the abandonment of all the misconceptions of being and the world that, to one’s dismay, are held so dear by the multitude who have enjoyed maybe a handful of pure philosophic moments. Not to be elitist or anything, but I find that those who think and speak purely, independently of the ways that are common and accepted, are those who are destined to be rejects of society, but are nevertheless blessed with the capacity for genuine and living insights.
It has become amazingly imperative that when we want to do the genealogy of the most existential genius we have to resort to his arch rival “Historical Materialism “!
Excellent piece of scholarly research and synthesis. Good job! {How much prep time does it take to pack so much information and analysis into a 12-min video? 😺} Contemplating how much Emerson influenced Nietzsche......it appears that young Nietzsche found Emerson's writings as putting into word his own un-expressed thoughts. Does not any reader of philosophical ideas accept the "truthfulness" of a proposition based more on one's own pre-existing outlook....which may never have been written or voiced.....versus being convinced by arguments?
Richard Rorty used to joke that William James's philosophical views are just whatever an American can get out of Nietzsche, which is a little more interesting when you know that Emerson was godfather to William James and influence him about as much as he influenced Nietzsche.
Hahaha I can't help but agree Rylee he certainly lived up to many of his inflations. I wonder how much that is causal ie how much his inflated sense of self led him to inflated attainment
@The living philosphy. Ya know i think emerson wrote MORALS AND DOGMA. Socially he was a lot closer to albert pike than anyone thinks and lets just say i recognise the prose, topics and general feeling of something emerson wrote. Theres at least 60 references to ESSAYS first and second series by Emerson in morals and dogma. Its a big claim but its CLEARLY the same author as essays and the like. Who better to write a treaties on the human potential, obligations and brotherhood? Not a one. If you love Emerson you will love morals and dogma to some degree
haha I know that seems to be the recurring bit of feedback. I'd be curious about your opinion on my video on Empiricism i tried slowing things down a bit
I need somewhat of a cure. I have read Waldo Emerson that much over the years,-- almost two decades-- I instantly become drowsy reading him now. If it is audio version, my brain automatically switch to sleep mode;-- for being so habitual in using the essays to fight my chronic insomnia;-- they finally are occasion for my sinking into sleep any time of the day, listening to any of them. I always preferred the essay, The Transcendentalist, initially. Later, Pray Without Ceasing. Then, The American Scholar. Later much, The Sovereignty of Ethics. Then, this, then that:-- ultimately, The Natural History of The Intellect. I think this essay, though unusually very lengthy, is Emerson's Hamlet-- the best of his essays. It contains all and all of him. Someone should recommend a cure for my always feeling sleepy, on turning the first three to six pages in reading any of Emerson's essays-- or outrightly falling asleep within minutes, in listening to audio version of any. I seem to easily recollect and mentally anticipate almost word for word, all the popular phrases, sentences in any paragraph in any of his essays. I now miss them too much,-- for far too much familiarity. I now stay away from them for many months-- five, six months-- before reading any of them sounds inviting in my ears as they should. I wish I could have a totally new essay of Emerson I have not read before. I sometimes muse on reading topics of essays he might have written, but did not write;-- like an essay on ISRAEL, or JERUSALEM. No, not one short stuff on it; but full lengthy essay as any of the other popular ones. I think between being Emerson and Shakespeare,-- though Emerson himself would hold it most incredulous and untenable-- I think it is far easier for me to be the later than the former. I can draft a play as good as Machbeth in ten days, after much preparation. But, I just can't wrap my brain around drafting an essay as good as any of Emerson's. I think about trying it out, sometimes, though. But I just feel like sticking to what my chosen bent was before I encountered Emerson the initial time. The sage kept urging me on and on;-- each sentence fired up my faculty, and imbued me with the requisite impetus to carry on. Sometimes I wonder how I would have fared in being a playwright without ever reading Emerson. I think I still would have done exactly as much as I did;-- encounter and reading him only affirmed what I had inherent in my constitution naturally. No lion required any schooling to execute a roar, or grow mane. But, I actually principally needed Emerson as somewhat of a mentor-- besides many other invaluable names too,-- Goethe, Montaigne, Shakespeare, Carlyle and more.
Content note:: A life in harmony with nature, the love of truth and virtue, will purge the eyes to understanding HER text. ~Frederick Nietzsche Women are boss. If it's a man's world, why you opening the door? All higher species are female and next step in philosophy. You rock brother!
I mean birds of a feather. Not surprising at all. It's funny because I like Emerson too while Nietzsche a bit questionable. It's all in the tone and energy. But Nietzsche would've liked Emerson just for what he represented. I don't think he would not have liked the 'harmony with nature' or 'oversoul' idea though.
This TH-cam talk is interesting but I wish the speaker would be less rapid and pressured and anxious sounding as he gives this talk. I hade the same unpleasant experience with another one of this youtuber’s talks.
I'm not comfortable with calling Emerson a philosopher but an intellectual, essayist, poet and prophet. Emerson engaged in no systemization of philosophical principles in his writings. I haven't read them all, maybe i missed something but coming from the Unitarian background, he stepped easily into a prophet's role. I suppose that philosophize is what we do but the title of "philosopher" is not Emerson's that I can understand.`
I was only talking with someone about this in a Reddit thread the other day. I think there's a point to be made there but I don't think that systematisation is the leg I would be standing it on. Nietzsche was not systematic nor was Socrates and yet we'd consider them two of the greatest philosophers.
@@TheLivingPhilosophy As Gen Z says, Yeah-no. Emerson probably wouldn't have said he was a philosopher. Systemization wasn't even a thing in Socrates' time. Nietzsche, well, he was a romantic. Call Emerson anything you want and I'll call him an American prophet, one of our few. You don't "think" you would stand on that leg or you "wouldn't stand on that leg?"
Thats funny, because its the lack of a metaphysics that i really dislike in Nietzsche and which in my opinion, makes him more of a proto-theorist than a philosopher.
Well I drew a lot on some secondary sources but the boiling it down into script form is by myself. Unless the this in your comment is self-referential in which case the answer is you.
Nietzsche definitely is NOT bombastic. Beethoven or Schopenhauer are bombastic. Nietzsche is more like Mozart or Shakespeare --very bold and powerful but light and graceful.
"I look for the hour when that supreme Beauty, which ravished the souls of those eastern men, and chiefly of those Hebrews, and through their lips spoke oracles to all time, shall speak in the West also. The Hebrew and Greek Scriptures contain immortal sentences that have been bread of life to millions. But they have no epical integrity; are fragmentary; are not shown in their order to the intellect. I look for the new Teacher that shall follow so far those shining laws, that he shall see them come full circle; shall see their rounding complete grace; shall see the world to be the mirror of the soul; shall see the identity of the law of gravitation with purity of heart; and shall show that the Ought, that Duty, is one thing with Science, with Beauty, and with Joy." DIVINITY SCHOOL Ralph Waldo Emerson. “And neither shall the Bible be closed till the last prophet is born.” THE OVER SOUL Ralph Waldo Emerson.
These words from both essays of Emerson did not precede my decision to become a playwright and take on Shakespeare himself. I discovered them much much later, years after my dropping out of faculty of law, after studying four and half years to be a lawyer-- and with just six months to graduation. After leaving the university scandalously just months before graduation,-- with family, students and acquaintances saying this and that-- I spent a full year musing on what to do,-- where to apply my head. Then I recalled my initial naive mind of studying Shakespeare and emulating him as a playwright. I went back to my old copy of a full volume of Shakespeare's complete works, and commenced studying it. Took me almost five years after studying Shakespeare to summon the courage to draft a play. And, even the day I sat to do it,-- I was practically "sleepwalking" to put it in Gillespie's word on his website-- Poemshape. I attempted and drafted a volume of twenty five plays, all drawn from scenes and characters in the Bible,-- without having the slight suggestion of what blank verse is. Had to commence redrafting of the whole volume again, after forcing myself to go find the trick of writing in blank verse. I used to have recordings of some of Shakespeare's plays on cassettes, and play them again and again just to get that acquainted with them, and commit much to memory. There was no sufficient power supply-- as likewise now-- hence listening to the plays on cassette was costly. I had to buy batteries for the puny radio, with auto reverse cassette compartment. After all this,-- the argument will come about my level of education etc. Like Ramanujam and Michelangelo,-- I just have to teach myself all, and pass through what, till it is done. I think if I have seen the inside of a theatre or was that good in English language-- it would have somewhat limited my performance and will for it:-- when the circumstance is contrary, I have found,-- it is then I am most amenable to the inventive and creative will inherent. I thank my stars for all the contradicting situations I have faced almost two decades since I commenced this quest. My lines are derived from a quill dipped in the tears of a Phoenix.
From ADAM AND EVE ACT 1 SCENE 1 CURTAIN. In the garden of Eden. Curtain reveals a mound of earth, blown upon by the wind till it reveals the man, Adam, lying on the ground. Adam: What awesome dream is this life Into which, suddenly, man has awaken? In mind of man there is no memory, Yet, unfolding his eye-lids this first time, As if from a deep slumber, man discerns How he has been aroused into consciousness. What is this consciousness? What likewise is That former state of sleep before aware? The mind of man was hollow, the heart of man Unknown to curiosity or design. But this same moment granted sentient self And the capacity to grapple thought, Within man is enkindled the desire To know and gain insight into all finds: This same insatiate eyes, feast with perception, Till the reflective faculty of man Obtains discernment of this beautiful world. Discernment! How soon, when immediate to thought, This selfsame word expressing sentiment That blossomed in man, as if from unknown, Discovered self and did alight his tongue. What life, what dream, is this awakening? Behold, with suddenness I stirred from naught Into this flourish of inclinations, And yearnings to discover what I am. But what do I perceive here and about, Aside supply and surplusness of things Inviting and delightsome to my view: And with alluring harmony in them, That doth bespeak of undeniable Ingenuity and solicitude In the immaculate engendering? Lo how, in pairs, else in undefined sums, These dazzling creatures rove about this place. Some on the surface of the ground do crawl; While others, beating wings, take to the air; Yet all, quite like mine own self, animated With happiness, confess it with their stirs And various forms of motion. What are these? And for their kind, what designation fit; Who, utmost in their manners, unlike man, To stir forth, crawl about in lovely couples? As do these crawling creatures, have man a mate, Such that is sembable and compliments His own peculiar form? His ignorance, Not knowledge, makes demand to find his state. Hence, unacquaintance, not awareness, fetched The thirst to know and curiosity. But from who or what, on behalf of man, Shall satisfying answers be procured? O thou who from yon elevated spot Cast thy refulgent gaze upon this world, And to all things appoint the shade and shape, Shall man's enlightenment proceed from thee? Did he who fashioned man caused thee to be? Lo, as the last of these words that express My willingness to know my circumstance Fell from my lips, the instance I detect A heavy summon from repose on me: Which to remark and dully satisfy, On this soft bed of flowers, I lay Adam; Hence the name man shall be addressed where I am. (He lies on the bed of flowers and falls fast asleep. A whirlwind stirs the dust particles over him and clears away. He wakes and finds the woman lying beside him. They both rise to their feet.) For the eye of man what invitingness, For the sense of man what befuddlement, Shall ever sue or be adopted, to Surpass this one in which, in his semblance and form, Beauty and love unite themselves as one? How aptly in thy comely figure is This fascinating rendering of man! Thou art man's actual match and complement; Hence I shall hail thee woman: and confess, Thou art bone of my bones, flesh of my flesh. CURTAIN.
No,-- they are just excepts from my presently forty seven plays. Adam And Eve, and Jesus of Nazareth-- are literary adaptations of characters and events in the Old and New Testament;-- in a volume of twenty five plays, titled-- THE DIVINE TRAGEDIES. Perseus and Andromeda, and The American Revolution, are both from another volume, titled-- THE HEROICS OF THE AGES. This second volume likewise comprises of plays,-- literary adaptations of pivotal sagas in world and European history. I am presently working on a trilogy, THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. The first part is done already. Two Scenes of it is displayed down below. By this time next month, I would have commenced preparation for drafting the second part, and conclude it before first day of June. The third part will be done by August. After that, I will plunge into the next trilogy-- The American Reformation. This will be adaptation of the times and events preceding and proceeding the American civil war. Though I have sent my works here and there to academics in famous universities in the world,-- met a Nobel Prize winner-- who has a full prototype hard copy of my first volume of twenty five plays,-- about almost five years ago-- ain't no body done anything about these lines till date. What I need is just a word, affirming one fact for me:-- either that I am delusional,-- my plays are nothing compared to Shakespeare's,-- or!
Huh I'd never explored this side of the Enneagram before but looking through the three instincts I think I fall into the same category. Maybe. I can see parts of the self-preservation and parts of the social so actually I'm not all that sure. Must go off and study that a bit deeper at some point Edit: just looked at your page and see you have a load of videos on it. Really wish I'd paid more attention in Spanish class now
Peterson does not know God because he would rely on God. Neither does God help him for that reason. He offers no help to the Self ans so the Self opposes him. The gods help those who help themselves. The Kingdom of God is within you. Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are gods" Etc. etc. The image of the Father is only a metaphor.
From JESUS OF NAZARETH part three Jesus: This far we will mount and no further, This beautiful ascent of scentful olives. Simon bar Jona, James and John, you three, Keep this particular spot along with me. The rest of you, like watchful sentinels, Proceed you yonder to the various spots That hail the fall of sandals to this orchard. (Exeunt the other apostles.) Not crescent, but full-countenance in glare, The glory of this queen of night, the moon, In full array with the unnumbered stars, Illuminate this hour of repose; As if intending this enlighten of it For a more clear perceive and sighting of The contemplated grave befall this night, That shall indelible the memory And think-of from mankind, from age to age, It shall distress and throe the milder hearts, Like the sight of a blood-bespattered sword In the scarred clasp of a loud weeping infant. The night is invariably still and calm. Naught is astir in it, safe what demurs The attribute and benefit of light. Since it pursues a course, this selfsame night, Against the son of man, I urge you men, Proceed a couple of stone-throw from me: And, there, on my behalf, augment the count Of fall on knees and solemn clasp of palms. The fervency it presently endorses, May summon all the prophets from their tombs, Yet not suffice for a petition that, Considered, shall adjure the come pass of The purpose, aim, and general inference Of the laws and the prophets till this day. Now, go, the three of you; do as I bid. (Peter, James and John, walk a little away from him, and fall to their knees for prayer there.) When grave and critical is the event, And its unravel is fulfilment of The several prophecies of destiny About a universal, all-embracing hope, Awares of the extent and gravity Of his participation in a major role, The bosom of the principal character Is flushed with musings and unsettled cares; Such inly stifes and grapple of persuades That his own single faculty bestride With seperate heels, the fissured mountain of His ay or nay, the do or not of his will. No, not the threat of the impending ordeals;-- Hail of abuses, spittle of aspersion, The fangs of whips and scourges ordaind for this flesh;-- No, not all these subdue with agony My present ponder-taken faculty; And so consumately distress this hour, From every pore, this agitated flesh, Exudes sufficient perspiration; it seems Much like the profuse call of crimson spills, After a band of arrows, flying, have stung And fatally attached themselves to prey. No, not all that, but the besmirch entail In being handed to those hypocrites; Submitted to their trial, their ridicule; And in an obvious travesty of justice, In sight of contemporary minds of Joseph, Pronounced against, so charged with guiltiness, And sentenced; as what famous reprobate, Or person of established notoriety; To the great shame, the fall of face, to angels, And Father of the sole-beloved son. (He falls to his knees.) O gracious Father, if it suffices may, Suffer this bitter cup pass from my lips. Yet through what circumstance for an effect, Where, not mine, but thine own grave will is done. (Two Angels appear and lay their hands on him, to strengthen him. The Angels do and disappear. Jesus rises, and walks to where the three Apostles are. He found them sleeping.) Rise, Peter, James and John; rise from your sleep! (The three men wake up and rise to their feet.) This urgent night, could you not linger a while Along with me in solemn? The spirit, I Perceive, may be resolved and truly willing; But the frail flesh, when most immediate, May interject with a mere sink in sleep. Behold, at last, the instance is at hand In which the son of man shall be betrayed And handed as a bounty to detractors! (Enter the other apostles in haste, fear in their aspects. Behind comes a armed mob of soldiers, guards, bearing torches, led by several Priests and Judas Iscariot. Judas walks to Jesus. Judas: Hail Rabbi! Jesus: Wherefore art thou come, fellow? (Judas kisses Jesus on the cheek.) Son of Iscariot, Judas, do you, this day, Betray the son of man with show of love, The tender of a kiss? 1st Priest: He is acknowledged in their midst; He is the man we seek. Guards, apprehend him! Peter:(Drawing his sword.) The first soul in your mob That stirs to answer that indictable call, Shall pass through me and this incited blade; And, in the glare of this attesting moon, Accost a violence and a spill of blood, That summons his or mine own mortal time To an untimely tomb! (Marcus, the steward of the High Priest, steps out with a dagger in his hand. Peter attacks him, cutting with his sword, missing and slashing him at the ear.) Jesus: Simon bar Jona, put up your sword. Any who settled ragging controversy With the opinion of sword, shall fall by sword! Bar Jona, be restrained. Do you not know, I may entreat against this night-walk seize, And, instantly, a legion of zealous angels Shall be dispatched on my behalf from heaven; And, here, this dastard mob, that shades in night To carry out its ends, shall be subdued? (He walks to the injured man, touched his ear and healed the injury.) You hypocrites; to perpetrate your work, Eschew you the revealing countenance of day; But now deploy it in this shadow hunted And darkling hour; alike in semblance to The hidden monstrous visage of your patrons? The surplus days, in the bright gaze of the sun, In telling sight of all, I stood in your midst, And tendered to the world my sentiments. Right there, in honest testify of all, In answer to your bigoted dissent, You could not stir to lay your hands on me. But in this darksome arras of the night, Do you steal time to come against my person; With tempered weapons, brandished clubs and staves, As hence you would in hunt of a malefactor? It is myself you seek; then, as you wish, I shall resign now willing to your clasp, And not resist, if you would let these go; Whose fear and fury, zealous on my behalf, Your own accomplice's ear slashed in halves. (The armed guards seize Jesus. Some rush at the Apostles too, but the latter fly the scene. The mob, led by the Priests, lead Jesus away. Re-enter Peter.) Peter: In momentary fright, I likewise fled with comrades from the scene; But have returned to live up to my word. Iscariot, now we know, is the betrayer. But if the rest of us, this critical pass, This inauspicious night of his cruel seize, Abandon courage and estrange ourselves, How dare we set apart ourselves from the Defecting heart? This is the scene of his seize. In the recount of a great misappointment, Like the defeat or fall of a great name, The scenery of incident is likewise Specified in the summary, along With the particulars in the exploit; And later mentioned with remorse, as if It is a character complicit in the shame. For this irreverence, this disgraceful take, Suffered to be committed in thy hold, Thy name and landscape, Gathsemene, shall Forever dwell in loathed infamy Among the celebrated gossip of men, All the recalls of trampled centuries. Though, earlier on, my summon of this sword, To shout my part in it, on my behalf, Did spill some trickles from the rival stand. To smear or laud my name in chronicle, Whichever it is, I am indifferent. I now shall sue beyond mere droplets, to gush; As, undivulged within my under robe, I bear along the blade with a secret aim, That shall soon come to public tell and light, As forth I trail with it track of a mob, That hails me for a vengeance deep as a tomb! (He takes the path of the mob.) CURTAIN.
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It has never surprised me that Nietzsche loved Emerson. Emerson was what I like to call an "incurable optimist", and Emerson was also someone who clearly walked his own path in life. I think Nietzsche sensed in Emerson both of those qualities, and obviously he greatly admired life affirmation and independence of mind.
I think Nietzsche gained courage from Emerson --courage to completely ignore academic philosophy and concentrate his energies on wisdom. In Emerson we find a contemporary version of a sage and of someone who sees philsosophy as the pursuit of an art of living.
Having a lunch with these two would be awesome 😂
@@samricherI wish they were streamers talking about philosophy all day
This comes to my mind as I hear you summarizing Emerson's philosophy:
“there is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.”
― Miyamoto Musashi, The Book of Five Rings
Love it
Thank you for this! Reading Musashi soon because of your note.
Emerson has "Do not seek for anything outside yourself" in Latin (Ne te quæsiveris extra) at the beginning of his essay, "Self Reliance" 😊
Just got to the part of the video where he mentions that, I need to stop reading comments before watching 😆
I love making these connections between thinkers. It also makes the history of ideas feel more alive. Would be great to do more like this. Maybe wittgenstein and kierkegaard?
Ah thanks Tim y'know I hadn't even been thinking that that's what I was doing I was just trying to make an interesting angle to approach the video from and I guess a pattern has emerged! I shall investigate this Wittgenstein/Kierkegaard connection and see if there's something I can work with thanks for the feedback and idea!
TRY READING THE BIBLE AND LEARNING ABOUT JESUS IF U WANT TO LEARN ABOUT LIFE
@@bryanmelton5538 grow up
"Good prose is written only face to face with poetry."
-- Alan Moore in a nutshell.
This is so true that the very best prose is such a perfect inversion of poetry that in seeing it one gazes into it's mirror image and sees poetry itself.
This is not so surprising as it might first appear: Transcendentalism arose out of romanticism and Nietzsche was always an unconscious romanticist.
If I had to pick one writer who shaped my thinking more than any other it would be Emerson, along with his compadres, Whitman and Thoreau. He’s so eminently quotable and here are my Top 10 favourites of his:
1. *Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.*
2. *Make your own Bible. Select and collect all the words and sentences that in all your readings have been to you like the blast of a trumpet.*
3. *It is easy in the world to live after the world's opinion; it is easy in solitude to live after our own; but the great man is he who in the midst of the crowd keeps with perfect sweetness the independence of solitude.*
4. *Once you make a decision, the Universe conspires to make it happen*
5. *Though we travel the world over to find the beautiful, we must carry it with us, or we find it not.*
6. *A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day.*
7. *You become what you think about all day long.*
8. *The good news is that the moment you decide that what you know is more important than what you have been taught to believe, you will have shifted gears in your quest for abundance. Success comes from within, not from without.*
9. *Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string.*
10. *There is a time in every man's education when he arrives at the conviction that envy is ignorance; that imitation is suicide; that he must take himself for better, for worse, as his portion; that though the wide universe is full of good, no kernel of nourishing corn can come to him but through his toil bestowed on that plot of ground which is given to him to till. The power which resides in him is new in nature, and none but he knows what that is which he can do, nor does he know until he has tried.*
Like the stars ✨ in the firmament there are countless others, but perhaps I should end with this, thereby not taking Emerson’s advice: *I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.*
all gems Donald!
@@notimpressed7559 Nice choices.👍
These are all brilliant. I definitely want to dive into some primary texts of Emerson's, do you have any recommendations?
I really want to understand why it is that Emerson, as well known as he is, is not 100 times more revered....
@@beerman204 Emerson is not revered as much as most people assume he should because, in somewhat of his own words-- HIS PHILOSOPHY ABSOLVES YOU TO YOURSELF,-- does not bind you.
Please give it a like if you enjoyed!
⌛ Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:56 Nietzsche Long Love for Emerson
5:45 Nietzsche Contra Emerson
7:15 Emerson’s Influence in Nietzsche’s Work
10:40 The Biographical Explanation for Their Affinity
Thanks for sharing, friend! I love Emerson. Reading him is like reminding yourself that you're okay and that you're alive, and it's amazing.
Indeed! A great man to share a name with Ralph!
@@TheLivingPhilosophy Actually, I changed my name to Ralph on here because I like RWE so much!
@@gammaraygun6576 Haha no way! And why not eh!
I feel like I gain an IQ point with every video I watch. You're great at making this all so interesting. Thank you!
haha thanks Christina! Great to hear from you and glad you enjoyed it!
Grazie.
Thanks again Umberto!
Such a sensitive expose on the connection of these two giants. Well done and thank you.
Thanks Remco that means a lot! Glad you enjoyed it!
@@TheLivingPhilosophy As a newcomer to philosophy I have plodded through many videos, but your presentation took me INTO their world, that can only come through empathy and respect. Again, thank you.
@@remcovansanten8204 Wow that's so awesome to hear Remco thanks a million!!
Wow finally someone else noticed, lol great video, Ive owned “An Elective affinity” & “The Romance of Individualism” for 10 years and dont know why others hadnt seen the connection yet either. Thanks again, favd!
It's funny I've seen this book Elective Affinity mentioned a good bit in the comments on the video on Reddit and while I came across a few books in my studies on the two men that one somehow slipped me by. Have you read it? Would you recommend? Or maybe the romance of individualism? This is my first hearing of that one
@@TheLivingPhilosophy both i consider THE Nietzsche/Emerson books, it’s definitely great reading especially considering you already have knowledge of their relationship.
@@guitaoist Very interesting. Thanks for the recommendations!
I read Max Stirner, noticed the similarilty with Self-Reliance, also noted in the introduction to Stirner that people had speculated Nietsche was influenced by Stirner, and found the possible connection here. thanks for this.
Hi James. Great work.
In my humble point of view, Emerson reflected Nietzsches self awareness of the part that conditions play in ones lifes. If it helps, the cultural difference approach but also pull them apart... In Emerson, ones feel the freedom of contemplating on both sides, Europe is a different fruit cake, as you know, and always Had a Keen interest for polarized theory with room for no Integration. I think, that maybe, we was in love with that responsable freedom. Thank you again for your work and trully wish you are as happy as you Can humanly be, for what your work as driven me to. Kind regards.
Thank you for this close connection between Nietzsche and Emerson .
Well done!
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Wow - it’s amazing to discover this. Thank you. I’ve been re reading Nietzsche this year and trying to separate wheat from chaffe. No other philosopher has resonated with me but at the same time I find so much seeming contradictions in his work, ones that can be observed even in from his poetic flourishes down into the geometry of his metaphysics. I think most can be understood as emanating from alienation and loneliness that led him to misanthropy as a way of validating and sustaining himself and his work in the absence of supportive relationships. But would we have his work if Nietzsche didn’t have his personal/emotional/psychological struggles? Perhaps one must feel misunderstood in order to offer the world new understandings as suggested by that Emerson quote you included. It’s nice to know that Nietzsche found some lasting kinship with Emerson that wasn’t idealization followed by repulsion or rejection like most of his relationships. I have read some Emerson but will now be re reading end continue my Nietzsche studies aided by a new perspective. Reading and contemplating Nietzsche has been akin to a spiritual practice for me, and I appreciate so much what you have offered here.
This is brilliant I have no idea why I missed it along the way. A book I’m actually reading had a chapter on Emerson. His work on self reliance particularly interested me. Did a TH-cam search on Emerson and self reliance....and guess who popped up! Self reliance, personal responsibility and being/living as an individual really float my boat so to speak. So many people look for others to not only fix their lives they almost seek for others to live it for them. That’s existing not living in my view. Life’s is there to be experienced.
Haha all roads are leading you back to the living philosophy Danny 🤣 Emerson's a gem without a doubt and a lot of important lessons from him
Think for yourself 😉
The affinities had occurred to me years back when I made my way through Kauffman’s "Portable Nietzsche." Two convergences that occur to me foremost is how Emerson rereads Christianity (as opposed to Nietzsche, who never really manages to totally shake off its weight and in his last Antichrist, inveighs terribly at it) and how he (Emerson) avails himself (nay, was fundamentally influenced by them) of the "Vedanta" and "Upanishads" (and also,his meditative practice or possible mystical experience of nature sketched briefly in Emerson's "Journals"). Nietzschecontinues as a preacher to the end...desconstructing traditional Christianity: Emerson flings it off as if he were in zero gravity (I suggest K.V. Raghupathi’s study “Emerson’s Orientalism” and the influence - very few American critics, including Harold Bloom, really understand this).
The other, of course, is the relationship between Zarathustra and Emerson’s transcendental man or woman. Nietzsche’s "ubermensch" degrades into something usable for the Nazis; whereas Emerson is taken up by Henry Ford, positive thinking self-help…for American boosterism and materialism (anyone who knows Emerson’s works deeply will see its deep underlying spirituality and ethical concerns, but a shallow reading will just make him the 19th century Dale Carnegie).
Nature is made to conspire with spirit to emancipate us.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
A leading edge and discerning presentation of Emerson's profound influence on Nietzsche. Did Emerson perhaps come from another dimension/planet as his writings are infused with such divinity and the deepest of otherworldy insights? Ty for showcasing this natural tie between Nietzsche and the Concord savant.
For Nietzsche to have admired Emerson is a testament by itself to Emerson's genius. Emerson and Nietzsche are intellectual forces of nature. In military terms imo, Nietzsche represents the Navy Seals in his relentless, disciplined pursuit of exposing the Eliotian "wasteland culture" and the pervasive "hollow men." Emerson then might represent a Top Gun air fighter with a precision fighter focus on the vast endless spiritual horizons and his full spectrum awareness presented in his sublime writings so uplifting to the human spirit. No man is truly educated until he has read Emerson and made progress in understanding the intellectual force and "satori" he illuminated. Please continue expanding the links of these intellectual brothers in arms with your philosophical expertise. More Emerson and more Nietzsche in future videos, please. New US subscriber.
It brings me great joy to picture Nitche weeping with joy over THE POET an essay by Emerson - just like i do...
Lol.
They also shared a deep interest in Vedic studies. Interestingly N parts company from E in rejecting some sort of transcendental basis for existence. And yet at times in his writing that is hardly apparent.
"His hidden meaning lies in our endeavours; Our valors are our best gods." - Emerson
I did wonder why Nietsche thought Emerson was like Zarathustra... this is good thanks.
Lovely! Thanks Tehuti!
I can understand how Emerson would have been an inspiration to Nietzsche, although I was unaware that he was until now. I might never have connected the two had I not seen this, so thank you!
They're both unique versions of the poet. Fredrick is the Beethoven of thought.
Very well written and very well presented.
Thanks Hobson! I appreciate that! Bad news though I'm not Jesus no walking on water or wine conjuring powers here unfortunately
I noticed that right away when listening to the self reliance audiobook recently.
Trust my inner knowing
Absolutely! There's an undeniable similarity in their evaluation of human potenial eh
Thanks a lot for this video. I like Nietzche. Now I will begin to read Emerson.
That's great Ronaldo delighted to introduce you to him! I'd highly highly recommend Self-Reliance as a starting point it's an inspiring work of potent beauty while being short enough to quickly digest. Here's a link to an online version archive.vcu.edu/english/engweb/transcendentalism/authors/emerson/essays/selfreliance.html
10:00 artwork reminds me a lot of Griffith’s Femto
I love your channel bro. You have the perfect voice for this stuff
Another outstanding presentation, Made me realise that both had profound relationships to the Earth and their various ''landscapes of thought'' - as proto-ecological thinkers.... much to consider here! Many thanks, Mark.
Thanks Mark! Hadn't actually connected it with this ecological angle thars an interesting one
The Living Philosophy-- tell me, what is my more definite remedy for not feeling sleepy reading any hard copy, or falling asleep listening to any audio of the essays of Ralph Waldo Emerson?
Points towards the algorithm, you deserve it!
Thank you kindly!
I love Emerson too. Nice video!
Thanks A. V.! I'm a big fan myself
I admire Emerson. Shaed my thinking.
Great video. Two thinkers who seem so different brought together in a wonderful comparison/contrast.
Thank you In Joy! It was a fascination to me as well so I'm glad to have been able to communicate some of that wonder!
Nicely done!
Love the video, you speak yourself like philosopher.
Very informative, thanks!
Thanks Matt glad you enjoyed it!
keep up the good work!
Thanks, I'll try!
I’m far from a Nietzsche scholar, but whenever I read him, I find myself fluctuating between shooting holes through his arguments and saying, “Wait a minute. That’s *me* he’s talking about!”
It's weird, but I've found there to be, a "Philosophical Overlap" between Self-Reliance and the concept of the "Overman"
Very well done
Thanks Donnie!
Thank you
Nietzsche loves Emerson because he loves himself.
This is awesome! Thanks.
Thank you kindly!
@@TheLivingPhilosophy This is a great emerging channel. Nietzsche and Emerson are my two favorite philosophers, though I was unaware that Nietzsche had read Emerson. I think what the two have most in common is an attitude of self-reliance. Emerson promoted self-reliance and regarded it as something important , but it was so innate to Nietzsche that it was something he didn’t even think about; he lived it.
Anyway, great work once again.
@@TheLivingPhilosophy If you’d like a suggestion, some videos on the topic of The Matrix movie series would probably really pull in some viewers/subscribers. Lots of people connect The Matrix to Gnosticism, but I think it could be connected to characters like Nietzsche, Emerson, and Jung. IMO Nietzsche’s ubermensche is the equivalent of Neo in The Matrix. “Nietzsche and The Matrix” would offer some fresh insight into a fairly worn out topic.
@@thinkneothink3055 Now that is a CRACKING idea. I'm gonna rewatch the Matrix someday soon (I've been meaning to anyway) and take some notes and see what bubbles up. Thanks for the idea!
@@TheLivingPhilosophy Both “Thus Spoke Zarathustra” and “Human, All Too Human” come to mind as works of Nietzsche’s that might serve for making the comparison. If I were doing what I’m suggesting (which I won’t be) I’d be looking at in terms of psychology.
In my own experience and thinking, The Matrix is the very social nature of humans. If we aspire to do something great we have to fight elements like doubt, fear of failure, and fear of success: all resultant of our social nature. We create The Matrix in our minds, and Nietzsche illustrates this well in his writing.
If you’d like to hear some more ideas feel free to send me a message at thinkneo1111@gmail.com. Otherwise I’ll be watching for new videos on your channel.
Wow.. you rock Jesus. Very informative.
Excellent
Great informative video. About a month ago I got into Nietzsche. Don't know nothing about the other guy. I guess it's time to learn about him. Random question where are u from? You have a cool voice/accent.
Thanks Makaveli! Emerson's a great philosopher I'd highly recommend Self-Reliance as a starting point. It's a short read but an utterly life-changing one.
And as for your random question! I'm Irish. From a city in the southwest called Limerick but I guess my accent was softened by the need to be understood when living in Scotland and Australia
@The Living Philosophy I read most of Nietzsche’s works before turning to Emerson. I have read Self-Reliance as well with a similar response; it changed my life to hear, for once, that it is indeed not a blameworthy thing to be an individual with his own distinct sense of judgement, which has developed in solitude owing to reflection on data and experience revealed to you alone and to nobody else. Nietzsche and Emerson knew more concretely than anybody I have encountered so far the unbelievably profound individuality of the life lived by each and every individual, whether or not they behave individually in thought, act or presentation. Many might call these men incapacitated, mentally and socially, whereas the truly philosophic type must recognize the magnificent understandings they had about nature, health, relation to the world and experience. I have also read a number of Emerson’s essays, he has become a favorite writer and human being to me. I find in Nietzsche and Emerson an innocent, naked approach to being, as can be said regarding for instance phenomenology. Once reality has been de-clothed of judgements, false identifications and other impediments to the awareness of life’s fullness, there seems to arise both a scientific and an aesthetic-poetic curiosity about... virtually everything. I like to think Nietzsche and Emerson related the great sense of poetic splendor and fulfillment that follows the abandonment of all the misconceptions of being and the world that, to one’s dismay, are held so dear by the multitude who have enjoyed maybe a handful of pure philosophic moments. Not to be elitist or anything, but I find that those who think and speak purely, independently of the ways that are common and accepted, are those who are destined to be rejects of society, but are nevertheless blessed with the capacity for genuine and living insights.
It has become amazingly imperative that when we want to do the genealogy of the most existential genius we have to resort to his arch rival “Historical Materialism “!
Excellent piece of scholarly research and synthesis. Good job! {How much prep time does it take to pack so much information and analysis into a 12-min video? 😺}
Contemplating how much Emerson influenced Nietzsche......it appears that young Nietzsche found Emerson's writings as putting into word his own un-expressed thoughts.
Does not any reader of philosophical ideas accept the "truthfulness" of a proposition based more on one's own pre-existing outlook....which may never have been written or voiced.....versus being convinced by arguments?
After reading Zarathrustra then discovering Emerson I saw the connection immediately
Richard Rorty used to joke that William James's philosophical views are just whatever an American can get out of Nietzsche, which is a little more interesting when you know that Emerson was godfather to William James and influence him about as much as he influenced Nietzsche.
As great as Nietzsche’s ego was, it seems he was right about himself.
Hahaha I can't help but agree Rylee he certainly lived up to many of his inflations. I wonder how much that is causal ie how much his inflated sense of self led him to inflated attainment
@The living philosphy. Ya know i think emerson wrote MORALS AND DOGMA. Socially he was a lot closer to albert pike than anyone thinks and lets just say i recognise the prose, topics and general feeling of something emerson wrote. Theres at least 60 references to ESSAYS first and second series by Emerson in morals and dogma. Its a big claim but its CLEARLY the same author as essays and the like. Who better to write a treaties on the human potential, obligations and brotherhood? Not a one. If you love Emerson you will love morals and dogma to some degree
Please slow the commentary.
Both were very individualistic.
I'm not sure Nietzsche had the same reverence for "truth" as Emerson. I'd like to see a piece on different philosophers' takes on truth.
My 2 favorite
pause for breath though...othedrwise great
haha I know that seems to be the recurring bit of feedback. I'd be curious about your opinion on my video on Empiricism i tried slowing things down a bit
I need somewhat of a cure. I have read Waldo Emerson that much over the years,-- almost two decades-- I instantly become drowsy reading him now. If it is audio version, my brain automatically switch to sleep mode;-- for being so habitual in using the essays to fight my chronic insomnia;-- they finally are occasion for my sinking into sleep any time of the day, listening to any of them. I always preferred the essay, The Transcendentalist, initially. Later, Pray Without Ceasing. Then, The American Scholar. Later much, The Sovereignty of Ethics. Then, this, then that:-- ultimately, The Natural History of The Intellect. I think this essay, though unusually very lengthy, is Emerson's Hamlet-- the best of his essays. It contains all and all of him. Someone should recommend a cure for my always feeling sleepy, on turning the first three to six pages in reading any of Emerson's essays-- or outrightly falling asleep within minutes, in listening to audio version of any. I seem to easily recollect and mentally anticipate almost word for word, all the popular phrases, sentences in any paragraph in any of his essays. I now miss them too much,-- for far too much familiarity. I now stay away from them for many months-- five, six months-- before reading any of them sounds inviting in my ears as they should. I wish I could have a totally new essay of Emerson I have not read before. I sometimes muse on reading topics of essays he might have written, but did not write;-- like an essay on ISRAEL, or JERUSALEM. No, not one short stuff on it; but full lengthy essay as any of the other popular ones. I think between being Emerson and Shakespeare,-- though Emerson himself would hold it most incredulous and untenable-- I think it is far easier for me to be the later than the former. I can draft a play as good as Machbeth in ten days, after much preparation. But, I just can't wrap my brain around drafting an essay as good as any of Emerson's. I think about trying it out, sometimes, though. But I just feel like sticking to what my chosen bent was before I encountered Emerson the initial time. The sage kept urging me on and on;-- each sentence fired up my faculty, and imbued me with the requisite impetus to carry on. Sometimes I wonder how I would have fared in being a playwright without ever reading Emerson. I think I still would have done exactly as much as I did;-- encounter and reading him only affirmed what I had inherent in my constitution naturally. No lion required any schooling to execute a roar, or grow mane. But, I actually principally needed Emerson as somewhat of a mentor-- besides many other invaluable names too,-- Goethe, Montaigne, Shakespeare, Carlyle and more.
Splendid.
What is the opinion then? How do my lines in the sample of scenes displayed below, perform-- juxtaposed to our inimitable Shakespeare?
I have almost idolized Emerson for many years. I am left surprised and curious that he is not more elevated in the public consciousness....
Content note::
A life in harmony with nature, the love of truth and virtue, will purge the eyes to understanding HER text. ~Frederick Nietzsche
Women are boss.
If it's a man's world, why you opening the door?
All higher species are female and next step in philosophy.
You rock brother!
Thanks Johnny!
I swear to God when I read emerson I thought Nietszche would love this guy.
Haha really!? That's awesome. I guess I encountered them around the same time so couldn't quite discern
Verry interesting for me......
Ismet özel..
I thought that Nietche and Kierkegaard, or Nietche and Wild wass twin soul's.
"I am no man -- I am dynamite."
We call this arrogance, but it is not so clear that he was wrong.
I mean birds of a feather. Not surprising at all.
It's funny because I like Emerson too while Nietzsche a bit questionable.
It's all in the tone and energy. But Nietzsche would've liked Emerson just for what he represented.
I don't think he would not have liked the 'harmony with nature' or 'oversoul' idea though.
This TH-cam talk is interesting but I wish the speaker would be less rapid and pressured and anxious sounding as he gives this talk. I hade the same unpleasant experience with another one of this youtuber’s talks.
I'm not comfortable with calling Emerson a philosopher but an intellectual, essayist, poet and prophet.
Emerson engaged in no systemization of philosophical principles in his writings. I haven't read them all, maybe i missed something but coming from the Unitarian background, he stepped easily into a prophet's role.
I suppose that philosophize is what we do but the title of "philosopher" is not Emerson's that I can understand.`
I was only talking with someone about this in a Reddit thread the other day. I think there's a point to be made there but I don't think that systematisation is the leg I would be standing it on. Nietzsche was not systematic nor was Socrates and yet we'd consider them two of the greatest philosophers.
@@TheLivingPhilosophy As Gen Z says, Yeah-no. Emerson probably wouldn't have said he was a philosopher. Systemization wasn't even a thing in Socrates' time. Nietzsche, well, he was a romantic. Call Emerson anything you want and I'll call him an American prophet, one of our few. You don't "think" you would stand on that leg or you "wouldn't stand on that leg?"
Emerson was too wild and free to bind himself to a philosopher's system....
Thats funny, because its the lack of a metaphysics that i really dislike in Nietzsche and which in my opinion, makes him more of a proto-theorist than a philosopher.
Who writes this?
Well I drew a lot on some secondary sources but the boiling it down into script form is by myself. Unless the this in your comment is self-referential in which case the answer is you.
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A better connection is between Nietzsche and William James
Nietzsche definitely is NOT bombastic. Beethoven or Schopenhauer are bombastic. Nietzsche is more like Mozart or Shakespeare --very bold and powerful but light and graceful.
"I look for the hour when that supreme Beauty, which ravished the souls of
those eastern men, and chiefly of those Hebrews, and through their lips spoke
oracles to all time, shall speak in the West also. The Hebrew and Greek
Scriptures contain immortal sentences that have been bread of life to millions.
But they have no epical integrity; are fragmentary; are not shown in their order
to the intellect. I look for the new Teacher that shall follow so far those
shining laws, that he shall see them come full circle; shall see their rounding
complete grace; shall see the world to be the mirror of the soul; shall see the
identity of the law of gravitation with purity of heart; and shall show that the
Ought, that Duty, is one thing with Science, with Beauty, and with Joy."
DIVINITY SCHOOL Ralph Waldo Emerson.
“And neither shall the Bible be closed till the last prophet is born.”
THE OVER SOUL Ralph Waldo Emerson.
These words from both essays of Emerson did not precede my decision to become a playwright and take on Shakespeare himself. I discovered them much much later, years after my dropping out of faculty of law, after studying four and half years to be a lawyer-- and with just six months to graduation. After leaving the university scandalously just months before graduation,-- with family, students and acquaintances saying this and that-- I spent a full year musing on what to do,-- where to apply my head. Then I recalled my initial naive mind of studying Shakespeare and emulating him as a playwright. I went back to my old copy of a full volume of Shakespeare's complete works, and commenced studying it. Took me almost five years after studying Shakespeare to summon the courage to draft a play. And, even the day I sat to do it,-- I was practically "sleepwalking" to put it in Gillespie's word on his website-- Poemshape. I attempted and drafted a volume of twenty five plays, all drawn from scenes and characters in the Bible,-- without having the slight suggestion of what blank verse is. Had to commence redrafting of the whole volume again, after forcing myself to go find the trick of writing in blank verse. I used to have recordings of some of Shakespeare's plays on cassettes, and play them again and again just to get that acquainted with them, and commit much to memory. There was no sufficient power supply-- as likewise now-- hence listening to the plays on cassette was costly. I had to buy batteries for the puny radio, with auto reverse cassette compartment. After all this,-- the argument will come about my level of education etc. Like Ramanujam and Michelangelo,-- I just have to teach myself all, and pass through what, till it is done. I think if I have seen the inside of a theatre or was that good in English language-- it would have somewhat limited my performance and will for it:-- when the circumstance is contrary, I have found,-- it is then I am most amenable to the inventive and creative will inherent. I thank my stars for all the contradicting situations I have faced almost two decades since I commenced this quest. My lines are derived from a quill dipped in the tears of a Phoenix.
From ADAM AND EVE
ACT 1 SCENE 1
CURTAIN. In the garden of Eden. Curtain reveals a mound of earth, blown upon by the wind till it reveals the man, Adam, lying on the ground.
Adam:
What awesome dream is this life
Into which, suddenly, man has awaken?
In mind of man there is no memory,
Yet, unfolding his eye-lids this first time,
As if from a deep slumber, man discerns
How he has been aroused into consciousness.
What is this consciousness? What likewise is
That former state of sleep before aware?
The mind of man was hollow, the heart of man
Unknown to curiosity or design.
But this same moment granted sentient self
And the capacity to grapple thought,
Within man is enkindled the desire
To know and gain insight into all finds:
This same insatiate eyes, feast with perception,
Till the reflective faculty of man
Obtains discernment of this beautiful world.
Discernment! How soon, when immediate to thought,
This selfsame word expressing sentiment
That blossomed in man, as if from unknown,
Discovered self and did alight his tongue.
What life, what dream, is this awakening?
Behold, with suddenness I stirred from naught
Into this flourish of inclinations,
And yearnings to discover what I am.
But what do I perceive here and about,
Aside supply and surplusness of things
Inviting and delightsome to my view:
And with alluring harmony in them,
That doth bespeak of undeniable
Ingenuity and solicitude
In the immaculate engendering?
Lo how, in pairs, else in undefined sums,
These dazzling creatures rove about this place.
Some on the surface of the ground do crawl;
While others, beating wings, take to the air;
Yet all, quite like mine own self, animated
With happiness, confess it with their stirs
And various forms of motion. What are these?
And for their kind, what designation fit;
Who, utmost in their manners, unlike man,
To stir forth, crawl about in lovely couples?
As do these crawling creatures, have man a mate,
Such that is sembable and compliments
His own peculiar form? His ignorance,
Not knowledge, makes demand to find his state.
Hence, unacquaintance, not awareness, fetched
The thirst to know and curiosity.
But from who or what, on behalf of man,
Shall satisfying answers be procured?
O thou who from yon elevated spot
Cast thy refulgent gaze upon this world,
And to all things appoint the shade and shape,
Shall man's enlightenment proceed from thee?
Did he who fashioned man caused thee to be?
Lo, as the last of these words that express
My willingness to know my circumstance
Fell from my lips, the instance I detect
A heavy summon from repose on me:
Which to remark and dully satisfy,
On this soft bed of flowers, I lay Adam;
Hence the name man shall be addressed where I am.
(He lies on the bed of flowers and falls fast asleep. A whirlwind stirs the dust particles over him and clears away. He wakes and finds the woman lying beside him. They both rise to their feet.)
For the eye of man what invitingness,
For the sense of man what befuddlement,
Shall ever sue or be adopted, to
Surpass this one in which, in his semblance and form,
Beauty and love unite themselves as one?
How aptly in thy comely figure is
This fascinating rendering of man!
Thou art man's actual match and complement;
Hence I shall hail thee woman: and confess,
Thou art bone of my bones, flesh of my flesh.
CURTAIN.
No,-- they are just excepts from my presently forty seven plays. Adam And Eve, and Jesus of Nazareth-- are literary adaptations of characters and events in the Old and New Testament;-- in a volume of twenty five plays, titled-- THE DIVINE TRAGEDIES. Perseus and Andromeda, and The American Revolution, are both from another volume, titled-- THE HEROICS OF THE AGES. This second volume likewise comprises of plays,-- literary adaptations of pivotal sagas in world and European history. I am presently working on a trilogy, THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. The first part is done already. Two Scenes of it is displayed down below. By this time next month, I would have commenced preparation for drafting the second part, and conclude it before first day of June. The third part will be done by August. After that, I will plunge into the next trilogy-- The American Reformation. This will be adaptation of the times and events preceding and proceeding the American civil war. Though I have sent my works here and there to academics in famous universities in the world,-- met a Nobel Prize winner-- who has a full prototype hard copy of my first volume of twenty five plays,-- about almost five years ago-- ain't no body done anything about these lines till date. What I need is just a word, affirming one fact for me:-- either that I am delusional,-- my plays are nothing compared to Shakespeare's,-- or!
Both were sexual 5s on the enneagram system, no wonder this coincidence.
Huh I'd never explored this side of the Enneagram before but looking through the three instincts I think I fall into the same category. Maybe. I can see parts of the self-preservation and parts of the social so actually I'm not all that sure. Must go off and study that a bit deeper at some point
Edit: just looked at your page and see you have a load of videos on it. Really wish I'd paid more attention in Spanish class now
A REASON NOT TO LIKE EMERSON
Peterson does not know God because he would rely on God. Neither does God help him for that reason.
He offers no help to the Self ans so the Self opposes him.
The gods help those who help themselves.
The Kingdom of God is within you.
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are gods"
Etc. etc.
The image of the Father is only a metaphor.
From JESUS OF NAZARETH
part three
Jesus:
This far we will mount and no further,
This beautiful ascent of scentful olives.
Simon bar Jona, James and John, you three,
Keep this particular spot along with me.
The rest of you, like watchful sentinels,
Proceed you yonder to the various spots
That hail the fall of sandals to this orchard.
(Exeunt the other apostles.)
Not crescent, but full-countenance in glare,
The glory of this queen of night, the moon,
In full array with the unnumbered stars,
Illuminate this hour of repose;
As if intending this enlighten of it
For a more clear perceive and sighting of
The contemplated grave befall this night,
That shall indelible the memory
And think-of from mankind, from age to age,
It shall distress and throe the milder hearts,
Like the sight of a blood-bespattered sword
In the scarred clasp of a loud weeping infant.
The night is invariably still and calm.
Naught is astir in it, safe what demurs
The attribute and benefit of light.
Since it pursues a course, this selfsame night,
Against the son of man, I urge you men,
Proceed a couple of stone-throw from me:
And, there, on my behalf, augment the count
Of fall on knees and solemn clasp of palms.
The fervency it presently endorses,
May summon all the prophets from their tombs,
Yet not suffice for a petition that,
Considered, shall adjure the come pass of
The purpose, aim, and general inference
Of the laws and the prophets till this day.
Now, go, the three of you; do as I bid.
(Peter, James and John, walk a little away from him, and fall to their knees for prayer there.)
When grave and critical is the event,
And its unravel is fulfilment of
The several prophecies of destiny
About a universal, all-embracing hope,
Awares of the extent and gravity
Of his participation in a major role,
The bosom of the principal character
Is flushed with musings and unsettled cares;
Such inly stifes and grapple of persuades
That his own single faculty bestride
With seperate heels, the fissured mountain of
His ay or nay, the do or not of his will.
No, not the threat of the impending ordeals;--
Hail of abuses, spittle of aspersion,
The fangs of whips and scourges ordaind for this flesh;--
No, not all these subdue with agony
My present ponder-taken faculty;
And so consumately distress this hour,
From every pore, this agitated flesh,
Exudes sufficient perspiration; it seems
Much like the profuse call of crimson spills,
After a band of arrows, flying, have stung
And fatally attached themselves to prey.
No, not all that, but the besmirch entail
In being handed to those hypocrites;
Submitted to their trial, their ridicule;
And in an obvious travesty of justice,
In sight of contemporary minds of Joseph,
Pronounced against, so charged with guiltiness,
And sentenced; as what famous reprobate,
Or person of established notoriety;
To the great shame, the fall of face, to angels,
And Father of the sole-beloved son.
(He falls to his knees.)
O gracious Father, if it suffices may,
Suffer this bitter cup pass from my lips.
Yet through what circumstance for an effect,
Where, not mine, but thine own grave will is done.
(Two Angels appear and lay their hands on him, to strengthen him. The Angels do and disappear. Jesus rises, and walks to where the three Apostles are. He found them sleeping.)
Rise, Peter, James and John; rise from your sleep!
(The three men wake up and rise to their feet.)
This urgent night, could you not linger a while
Along with me in solemn? The spirit, I
Perceive, may be resolved and truly willing;
But the frail flesh, when most immediate,
May interject with a mere sink in sleep.
Behold, at last, the instance is at hand
In which the son of man shall be betrayed
And handed as a bounty to detractors!
(Enter the other apostles in haste, fear in their aspects. Behind comes a armed mob of soldiers, guards, bearing torches, led by several Priests and Judas Iscariot. Judas walks to Jesus.
Judas:
Hail Rabbi!
Jesus:
Wherefore art thou come, fellow?
(Judas kisses Jesus on the cheek.)
Son of Iscariot, Judas, do you, this day,
Betray the son of man with show of love,
The tender of a kiss?
1st Priest:
He is acknowledged in their midst;
He is the man we seek. Guards, apprehend him!
Peter:(Drawing his sword.)
The first soul in your mob
That stirs to answer that indictable call,
Shall pass through me and this incited blade;
And, in the glare of this attesting moon,
Accost a violence and a spill of blood,
That summons his or mine own mortal time
To an untimely tomb!
(Marcus, the steward of the High Priest, steps out with a dagger in his hand. Peter attacks him, cutting with his sword, missing and slashing him at the ear.)
Jesus:
Simon bar Jona, put up your sword.
Any who settled ragging controversy
With the opinion of sword, shall fall by sword!
Bar Jona, be restrained. Do you not know,
I may entreat against this night-walk seize,
And, instantly, a legion of zealous angels
Shall be dispatched on my behalf from heaven;
And, here, this dastard mob, that shades in night
To carry out its ends, shall be subdued?
(He walks to the injured man, touched his ear and healed the injury.)
You hypocrites; to perpetrate your work,
Eschew you the revealing countenance of day;
But now deploy it in this shadow hunted
And darkling hour; alike in semblance to
The hidden monstrous visage of your patrons?
The surplus days, in the bright gaze of the sun,
In telling sight of all, I stood in your midst,
And tendered to the world my sentiments.
Right there, in honest testify of all,
In answer to your bigoted dissent,
You could not stir to lay your hands on me.
But in this darksome arras of the night,
Do you steal time to come against my person;
With tempered weapons, brandished clubs and staves,
As hence you would in hunt of a malefactor?
It is myself you seek; then, as you wish,
I shall resign now willing to your clasp,
And not resist, if you would let these go;
Whose fear and fury, zealous on my behalf,
Your own accomplice's ear slashed in halves.
(The armed guards seize Jesus. Some rush at the Apostles too, but the latter fly the scene. The mob, led by the Priests, lead Jesus away. Re-enter Peter.)
Peter:
In momentary fright,
I likewise fled with comrades from the scene;
But have returned to live up to my word.
Iscariot, now we know, is the betrayer.
But if the rest of us, this critical pass,
This inauspicious night of his cruel seize,
Abandon courage and estrange ourselves,
How dare we set apart ourselves from the
Defecting heart? This is the scene of his seize.
In the recount of a great misappointment,
Like the defeat or fall of a great name,
The scenery of incident is likewise
Specified in the summary, along
With the particulars in the exploit;
And later mentioned with remorse, as if
It is a character complicit in the shame.
For this irreverence, this disgraceful take,
Suffered to be committed in thy hold,
Thy name and landscape, Gathsemene, shall
Forever dwell in loathed infamy
Among the celebrated gossip of men,
All the recalls of trampled centuries.
Though, earlier on, my summon of this sword,
To shout my part in it, on my behalf,
Did spill some trickles from the rival stand.
To smear or laud my name in chronicle,
Whichever it is, I am indifferent.
I now shall sue beyond mere droplets, to gush;
As, undivulged within my under robe,
I bear along the blade with a secret aim,
That shall soon come to public tell and light,
As forth I trail with it track of a mob,
That hails me for a vengeance deep as a tomb!
(He takes the path of the mob.)
CURTAIN.
YALL TRY STUDYING THE BIBLE IF U WANT TO LEARN TO HAVE A REAL LIFE
Hahaha u want real philosophy try reading the Bible then u might grow up
Thank you