Business requires the minimization of risk. Art is all about taking big risks knowing that many people will not accept your work as valuable. Art survives by minimizing the initial investment to hedge against the risk to that investment. Business minimizes the potential for loss by turning down radical ideas at the start.
Well, because i have no business i have no means to be an artist. I need my own music room to play & record guitar, bass, drums, piano & vocals. Every personality type has their pros and cons and man my cons keep me stunted. Im gonna start this union security job at 23 an hour plus my best friend is gonna get his navy benefits to help us get a house. We both lost 10 years of our lives from longterm relationships and have had to start over financially in every which way. Brothers dont break up lol and we always squash any problems we may have with respect to our own lifestyle that everyone has a right to. I have all the creativity but no source of income to help me do it on the next level. Everything im good at is far beyond my reach so im trying to focus on what is within reach and maybe that will open doors to do the things that were out of site.......except making a video game thats millions & control ill never have from a company of such scale. Pitching a video game, pitching a movie, pitching a show, pitching my one man band etc. I created a punk version of “Metalocalypse” years before that show ever existed. I have the modern reboot script of Fritz Langs 1927 Metropolis trapped in my head. The entire Mega Man series script in my head. Classic series, X series, future war MegaManZero series and finally the Legends series. There is such a tragic and horrifying element that is lost to people in this series. Like getting to the point where no humans are left on earth and all thats left are human like machines that behave like humans and fight each other like humans but arent human at all. Such an abomination of man, a humanities ghost made machine. 😪 Im a waste of potential. 😠👉 So get your head right fellow artist or we are just a waste of everything that could have been. Time to harness “The Fool.”
the hook for this video is absurd clickbaity nonsense. art and commerce are inextricably linked and in this very modern age, your artistic survival is contingent, more than ever before, on a business-driven mindset.
Charles Bukowski is a prime example of an individual who put his creativity ahead of any business concerns toward making himself a marketable commodity. The downside is that it will still be a crapshoot whether your art ever gains cultural traction, but you will almost certainly be scrounging for survival during your natural lifetime.
Interesting topic. Throughout history, All Legends from the entertainment realm never thought about business first, but focused on the creative part and then money followed them. I agree with Michael Laskin 100%
I'm better at making art, than selling it...I could care less about promoting myself; i just write and put it out there, if it flies, it flies...if not, there's always tommorrow...i hate artists who are more about the business of art and making money, than they are about being creative. I'm an artist, before anything else....
sounds like mental masturbation to me honestly. If your art means something and its worth producing and sharing then have the willpower to exit your imagination for a minute, join us mere mortals, and get it distributed. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with doing business to share a gift. Only unless you have this snobby attitude about being a special artist. Theres millions of people with your same attitude who exist mostly in their own mind, share next to nothing, and make next to zero impact.
@@Robertsmith-un5cu what imapct have you made ? i'm not above making a living with my art...the most successful artists are usually not the most talented...most artist don't get any love until after they're dead...and my art has left its mark, thank you very much. im just not a whore...
@@darkpoetik5375 >I could care less about promoting myself; i just write and put it out there >what imapct have you made ? >i hate artists who are more about the business of art and making money >i'm not above making a living with my art
Artists who chase the money above all else are pretty repulsive, but I also wouldn’t be so hands-off with the business side of things that I just throw any strategy to the winds Even if you don’t want to keep the money for yourself, it’s still better off in your hands than with people you might not be able to trust right? Use it to fund humane ventures, donate to hospitals/foundations, install public works for citizens to enjoy free of charge etc. etc.🤷♂️
I work in animation. It is a grueling process and usually around the middle of a production the animators start to get frustrated and burnt out and disheartened, because they want to be creative and artistic, but there isn't room for that when a production is in full swing. So I always tell them, this is just work. Think of it as work, just like any other job. When you want to be an artist, work on your personal projects. Take a bit of time each day to work on your personal project and be as free and artistic as you want. It always works to reinvigorate them and gets them to be productive again. Anyway, that's my philosophy, separate work/business from your personal art.
In my art circles, public measure of success is often because of a stereotypical style. Some artists can seem indistinguishable from each other, to the point that they can be recognized more for their subjects than their style, in essence. These artists have cultural recognition and can command higher prices for their work, also becoming an inspiration for those starting out; usually they are fully booked for work, too. Yet, they often lack novel ideas or unconventional themes in their pieces, because of their engrained mainstream aesthetic. Some of us prefer to go against the status quo, not stick to conventions, and to portray different themes or non-standard perspectives. Despite having technically having the skills to conform with the trends, we choose not to, as it can feel impersonal and like a loss of identity. Simply put, often there are topics and themes we want to approach that are simply not popular, sometimes only because they are so personal to us. For us, art ends up coming first and we find financial security where we can, since we prefer to avoid aesthetic conformism. While their approach is understandable and likely even necessary for survival in certain cases, some artists like myself would rather just spend the creative energy on something a bit more unusual or personal to us, even if during the process we know that it won’t be popular. The caveat to all of this is that there are exceptions to each side of course; artists who conform to mainstream aesthetics and who are not popular. And artists who do not conform to mainstream aesthetics and who are popular. Sometimes it's just timing, luck and who they've connected or associated with.
I am one of those ppl who came out here (LA) to make an imprint. I gave myself 5 years; I've been here almost 10. LA is a dungeon full of zombies, vampires, and critters. It's hard to make trusting allies, and people say hello with a resume. It's insane. Glad Laskin brought the increase of ethnic hiring in Holywood.
Strike a balance... If you neglect the business side and any chance at promoting yourself and/or your product or "brand", you starve to death. Go back to flipping burgers while the machines still let you, and work on your computer science or robotics repair degrees... If you strive for business... you end up "just making product". We see the results of that ALL THE TIME... Look JUST at YT... this very platform. You see new channels start out, getting traction with their vid's and it's actually fresh and new somewhere. It might even be just the latest of "whatever disaster and tragedy" channel, but they've got a good twist... and somewhere around 100K or 500K subscribers, there's a celebratory button and they start casting about with their format or "switching things up a little bit" with a Top 5 or Top 10 list like they've never tried before... AND it's not what you wanted to see (because those aged about like milk even 10 years ago)... BUT it wasn't terrible, and you still like the creator and channel... and the next thing you know, they're stepping up their production, in spite of you and the "OG" fans warning them to take care... AND suddenly, they're troweling out the SAME CRAP as literally every other similar channel. It's become almost a carbon copy, chasing the algorithm just like the rest... and that spark... the spirit of their ART... it's gone. ...AND then there's "BURNOUT"... or drama... Just like this vid'... You gotta understand that you're either in it for the cup of coffee or you're in it for dinner. If it's the long haul, that term "Long Haul" isn't kidding around. It's GOING to be long and difficult. It's a LOT of work. YOU gotta pace yourself. BE PATIENT, and understand that time WILL pay off. The productS (plural is important) come as a result of the Art you put in. Art is about YOUR process... YOUR exploration... YOUR expression of YOU. There's a market for it... maybe mainstream and maybe niche... or somewhere in between. The business is to recognize the niche and product to fill it, and get it there. The rest is cultivating yourself so the ART can flow. You can't force that part. ;o)
Vincent Van Gogh put business first.He killed himself because he couldn't t make any money from his art because when he was alive it was not internationally famous yet.
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What do you think? Put business first or second?
Business requires the minimization of risk. Art is all about taking big risks knowing that many people will not accept your work as valuable. Art survives by minimizing the initial investment to hedge against the risk to that investment. Business minimizes the potential for loss by turning down radical ideas at the start.
Well, because i have no business i have no means to be an artist.
I need my own music room to play & record guitar, bass, drums, piano & vocals.
Every personality type has their pros and cons and man my cons keep me stunted.
Im gonna start this union security job at 23 an hour plus my best friend is gonna get his navy benefits to help us get a house. We both lost 10 years of our lives from longterm relationships and have had to start over financially in every which way.
Brothers dont break up lol and we always squash any problems we may have with respect to our own lifestyle that everyone has a right to.
I have all the creativity but no source of income to help me do it on the next level.
Everything im good at is far beyond my reach so im trying to focus on what is within reach and maybe that will open doors to do the things that were out of site.......except making a video game thats millions & control ill never have from a company of such scale.
Pitching a video game, pitching a movie, pitching a show, pitching my one man band etc.
I created a punk version of “Metalocalypse” years before that show ever existed.
I have the modern reboot script of Fritz Langs 1927 Metropolis trapped in my head.
The entire Mega Man series script in my head. Classic series, X series, future war MegaManZero series and finally the Legends series.
There is such a tragic and horrifying element that is lost to people in this series. Like getting to the point where no humans are left on earth and all thats left are human like machines that behave like humans and fight each other like humans but arent human at all. Such an abomination of man, a humanities ghost made machine.
😪 Im a waste of potential.
😠👉 So get your head right fellow artist or we are just a waste of everything that could have been.
Time to harness “The Fool.”
the hook for this video is absurd clickbaity nonsense. art and commerce are inextricably linked and in this very modern age, your artistic survival is contingent, more than ever before, on a business-driven mindset.
This website is an artist first. ❤
Art first. You have to have a product to have a business.
Thank you. Yeah, I see a lot of people turning what they offer into an interchangeable commodity instead of developing their unique vision.
Charles Bukowski is a prime example of an individual who put his creativity ahead of any business concerns toward making himself a marketable commodity. The downside is that it will still be a crapshoot whether your art ever gains cultural traction, but you will almost certainly be scrounging for survival during your natural lifetime.
Interesting topic. Throughout history, All Legends from the entertainment realm never thought about business first, but focused on the creative part and then money followed them. I agree with Michael Laskin 100%
This website is an artist first. ❤
I'm better at making art, than selling it...I could care less about promoting myself; i just write and put it out there, if it flies, it flies...if not, there's always tommorrow...i hate artists who are more about the business of art and making money, than they are about being creative. I'm an artist, before anything else....
sounds like mental masturbation to me honestly. If your art means something and its worth producing and sharing then have the willpower to exit your imagination for a minute, join us mere mortals, and get it distributed. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with doing business to share a gift. Only unless you have this snobby attitude about being a special artist. Theres millions of people with your same attitude who exist mostly in their own mind, share next to nothing, and make next to zero impact.
@@Robertsmith-un5cu what imapct have you made ? i'm not above making a living with my art...the most successful artists are usually not the most talented...most artist don't get any love until after they're dead...and my art has left its mark, thank you very much. im just not a whore...
Well like he said, it’s good to have a balance. You can market yourself without compromising your vision.
@@darkpoetik5375 >I could care less about promoting myself; i just write and put it out there
>what imapct have you made ?
>i hate artists who are more about the business of art and making money
>i'm not above making a living with my art
Artists who chase the money above all else are pretty repulsive, but I also wouldn’t be so hands-off with the business side of things that I just throw any strategy to the winds
Even if you don’t want to keep the money for yourself, it’s still better off in your hands than with people you might not be able to trust right? Use it to fund humane ventures, donate to hospitals/foundations, install public works for citizens to enjoy free of charge etc. etc.🤷♂️
I work in animation. It is a grueling process and usually around the middle of a production the animators start to get frustrated and burnt out and disheartened, because they want to be creative and artistic, but there isn't room for that when a production is in full swing. So I always tell them, this is just work. Think of it as work, just like any other job. When you want to be an artist, work on your personal projects. Take a bit of time each day to work on your personal project and be as free and artistic as you want. It always works to reinvigorate them and gets them to be productive again. Anyway, that's my philosophy, separate work/business from your personal art.
Do you have any animation work you want to upload?
I’d definitely be an artist first and a businessman second.
Great discussion. I'm not an actor, but I feel a lot for how much they struggle.
In my art circles, public measure of success is often because of a stereotypical style. Some artists can seem indistinguishable from each other, to the point that they can be recognized more for their subjects than their style, in essence.
These artists have cultural recognition and can command higher prices for their work, also becoming an inspiration for those starting out; usually they are fully booked for work, too. Yet, they often lack novel ideas or unconventional themes in their pieces, because of their engrained mainstream aesthetic.
Some of us prefer to go against the status quo, not stick to conventions, and to portray different themes or non-standard perspectives. Despite having technically having the skills to conform with the trends, we choose not to, as it can feel impersonal and like a loss of identity. Simply put, often there are topics and themes we want to approach that are simply not popular, sometimes only because they are so personal to us.
For us, art ends up coming first and we find financial security where we can, since we prefer to avoid aesthetic conformism. While their approach is understandable and likely even necessary for survival in certain cases, some artists like myself would rather just spend the creative energy on something a bit more unusual or personal to us, even if during the process we know that it won’t be popular.
The caveat to all of this is that there are exceptions to each side of course; artists who conform to mainstream aesthetics and who are not popular. And artists who do not conform to mainstream aesthetics and who are popular. Sometimes it's just timing, luck and who they've connected or associated with.
I am one of those ppl who came out here (LA) to make an imprint. I gave myself 5 years; I've been here almost 10. LA is a dungeon full of zombies, vampires, and critters. It's hard to make trusting allies, and people say hello with a resume. It's insane.
Glad Laskin brought the increase of ethnic hiring in Holywood.
Interesting topic 🤔 Ii depends on what your focusing on, the business side or the creative side. There are many hats in this business ☺️
As a songwriter, this is a helpful and interesting discussion for me. Thanks.
Great to hear that! Love to see artists outside of filmmaking find value here!
Why are your questions so amazing and on point? What is your background?
People who are successful are good at marketing and negotiating but I think there is a time when you have to turn that off and pursue creativity
That's all right, I was never trying to be an artist
Im furshure an artist cus im broke as fuk!
Does anyone *choose* to be an artist ? You can *fail* at business, but I disagree that it's even possible to fail at art if you're doing it right.
Strike a balance... If you neglect the business side and any chance at promoting yourself and/or your product or "brand", you starve to death. Go back to flipping burgers while the machines still let you, and work on your computer science or robotics repair degrees...
If you strive for business... you end up "just making product". We see the results of that ALL THE TIME... Look JUST at YT... this very platform. You see new channels start out, getting traction with their vid's and it's actually fresh and new somewhere. It might even be just the latest of "whatever disaster and tragedy" channel, but they've got a good twist... and somewhere around 100K or 500K subscribers, there's a celebratory button and they start casting about with their format or "switching things up a little bit" with a Top 5 or Top 10 list like they've never tried before... AND it's not what you wanted to see (because those aged about like milk even 10 years ago)... BUT it wasn't terrible, and you still like the creator and channel... and the next thing you know, they're stepping up their production, in spite of you and the "OG" fans warning them to take care... AND suddenly, they're troweling out the SAME CRAP as literally every other similar channel. It's become almost a carbon copy, chasing the algorithm just like the rest... and that spark... the spirit of their ART... it's gone.
...AND then there's "BURNOUT"... or drama...
Just like this vid'... You gotta understand that you're either in it for the cup of coffee or you're in it for dinner. If it's the long haul, that term "Long Haul" isn't kidding around. It's GOING to be long and difficult. It's a LOT of work. YOU gotta pace yourself. BE PATIENT, and understand that time WILL pay off. The productS (plural is important) come as a result of the Art you put in. Art is about YOUR process... YOUR exploration... YOUR expression of YOU. There's a market for it... maybe mainstream and maybe niche... or somewhere in between.
The business is to recognize the niche and product to fill it, and get it there. The rest is cultivating yourself so the ART can flow. You can't force that part. ;o)
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Vincent Van Gogh put business first.He killed himself because he couldn't t make any money from his art because when he was alive it was not internationally famous yet.
If you exchange your art for money, the money is actually magic money and needs to be laundered by the toothfairy
Being an actor is harder due to ethnic casting? Really? For who?
Hour and a half of talking. Wow.
Oh you gotta love forced representation in casting.