How to Make "Marble" Slabs from Concrete & Serving Tray || Woodworking & GFRC
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- In this video, I explain how to create a DIY faux marble top from concrete, and how to mix GFRC concrete. These techniques can be used to make concrete tables, concrete countertops, and more. (by the way, GFRC = glass fiber reinforced concrete.) The first half is intended to be more of a tutorial than my past videos. You can use the concrete marbling technique shown to make coffee tables, dining tables, "marble" concrete countertops, and so on.
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In this video I also wanted to show a smaller project you can make with concrete. The second half of this video shows how I made two DIY 'marble' serving trays. The serving trays use the marble concrete slabs as tops, and simple wooden frames with handles cut out of them. The frames can be made a number of ways using simple woodworking techniques.
I would love to see someone make a full concrete countertop or larger concrete dining table or coffee table using this technique. Make sure to tag me on Instagram or leave a comment if you make something using the concrete skills and tricks shown in the video -- I'd love to see it.
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Lots of questions on GFRC vs normal concrete -- here is a good article explaining the differences: www.concretenetwork.com/glass-fiber-reinforced-concrete/benefits.html
Make 2 batches with different colors instead of one big mix, and you'll get a better marble effect. Think about marble cake recipes ;)
+okto putsch I actually did that in my marble table video. I personally didn't like the results as much, but it's really just a matter of taste
Nice man! Great concrete tutorial, and I really dug the part about overcomplicating things by attempting to save time. I have done that plenty of times, and it is always such a dumb feeling when you realize it.
Thanks! And I know right? Cutting the chamfers before the glue-up just so I could cut them on the table saw, seems so silly in retrospect....
is looking so good
Thanks much!
Looks cool brother!!!
Thanks much!
Great stuff. Love that you're trying to continuously improve on the way you're working.
Thanks Nico!
Fascinating process!
Thanks!
I like watching you guys working with concrete, it makes me want to try my hand at it. Thanks for the video and your tray is real cool.
Thanks Patrick! You should give it a go - it's a lot of fun :)
Awesome, as usual, Mike! I think this marble look pairs so nicely with the wood in a serving tray. And I didn’t even think about you cutting the chamfers before the frame glue up on the other one. That would have made it pretty difficult. Glad you learned for this one! Cheers!
Thanks Bruce! And yea, it was definitely worlds easier to cut the chamfers on the finished frame.
I had no idea concrete could look like this!! Great video and great tips 💙🙏
Thanks Vanessa! :)
That would be a reaaally beautiful countertop for in a kitchen! Well done Mike!
Thanks Jolien!
I love watching your builds come reality. I guess it's because I don't have your tools when creativity strikes me, and man is it a pain when a good idea fails because of the tooling.
Thanks! This one could be done with pretty minimal tools, with a few modifications. Feel free to shoot me a DM on Instagram and I can help you figure out how to work with what you've got in your shop.
I feel you
Great video! Appreciate the in depth steps of mixing the GFRC. Looking to start a test slab of my own.
Awesome! Would love to see what you make. Tag me on Instagram if you share pics. @modustrialmaker
Mike, your content is great, thanks!!! You inspire me! Bummer on tripping the saw stop brake. I actually have a "wall of shame" in my shop with three brakes (and the embedded blade) from my saw stop. Two of them are mine, one is from my daughter's boyfriend who funny enough contacted the miter sled. I make everyone sign the blade and it goes on the wall. I am just so happy we can joke about the wall of shame and not tell stories of our missing digits.
Yes, I'll trade $200 for a finger any day
Great video! Really excited to try my first concrete project soon, so this gave me some tips I'll keep in mind.
Thanks Sarah!
Great video Mike!. They just keep getting better and better.....
Thanks Tom!
The marbling came out great! Good stuff, man!
Thanks Jake!
Lov your work my friend
Awesome job on the tray! Looks so good!
Thanks much!
Movie title about your life: Magic Mike! Hahaha, jk. Really great tutorial showing the whole gfrc process in detail.
Dang, I guess they already made the movie :)
Love this video. Thanks for posting it.
Thanks J!
Great project mike!! Such a cool effect!!
Thank you!
Looks great. gonna have to give it a try.
Thanks much! Please tag me on Instagram if you share pics of what you make :)
Wow! Awesome build mike! I really like the way it came out.
Thanks much!
This is awesome, Mike.
Thanks much!
Gotta take advantage man. FIRST ;-) still watching btw
I learned a lot just by watching.. I'm sorry for sawstop actually "stopped " Excellent work. Cheers
Thanks much! And.....winner! :)
Looks awesome!!!!!
Thanks Marty!
Good work
When setting up your miter gauge, always check that it will clear the blade. I quickly figured that out when my Dad owned a Ryobi BT3000, which has a sliding-table type miter gauge with a sliding fence. Fortunately, only a tiny bit of the miter gauge fence got clipped.
Learned that the hard way
Thanks for the great info. 🙂👍
No problem, glad you found it useful :)
Another great video. Wow.
thanks much!
😉Awesome tutorial! And the trays look pretty dam cool 😎
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Thanks! This was a new style of video for me, so glad you liked it :)
Great project sir
Thanks much!
It really is looking amazing . Good job
Thank you!
you're welcome !! if you have the time id appreciate it if you checked our channel and gave some feed back . constructive criticism is welcomed !
OK, I'll try to give it a watch later this week.
I personally like the Hibiki 21 and The Hakushu 12, its incredible taste! I think is the best Japanese whiskey ever.
The marbling came out great! I'm pretty sure I would way over mix and just make a puke color.
Thanks Caleb! Practice makes perfect, my first attempt was overmixed (the marble table video a while back) but it was cool nonetheless...I think you should give it a go ;)
Would adding just Glass Fibers to a normal white portland cement mix add any strength? I'd like to do a 3/4" countertop for my kitchen. I can't purchase that mixed bag you use.
Thanks!
It would, but not enough for a thinner slab. In additon to the glass fiber, you need the acrylic polymer and plasticizer so you can do 50/50 cement to sand and reduce the amount of water. You can make your own mix this way, however. Check out this article for details. www.instructables.com/id/GFRC-Floating-Concrete-Hearth-for-Concrete-Wood-Fi/
*Awaits comments about diluting whiskey with ice cubes*
Lol, trying to avoid putting hair on my chest ;)
I can dig it. Haha.
Thank you for the education, too.
I've hammered through a few of your clips (including the collaborations), while I've been in Iraq, and can't wait to get home and have a play.
Thanks! Excited to see what you come up with - tag me on Instagram if you share pics.
@@modustrial the proper way to drink whiskey is actually with a splash of water or over ice, it brings out the aromas, so anyone who says "dont put on ice! " is actually technically incorrect. And that's a fact of chemistry, not an opinion. But, to each his own. If you like ice, use ice. If you don't, don't.
I'm just learning about whiskey...but starting to think it's good in just about every way! :)
looks sweeet
thanks!
Love the walk through and the idea of setting up a test slab (both turned out great)! I tend to jump head first into a bigger project than I should and it doesn't always pan out. Thanks Mike! How much do you think those serving trays weigh all said and done?
At 5/8" thick concrete, 15 lbs or so.
how did you make the form to pour the concrete into?
Beautiful as always! I wish you’d explore into other kinds of concrete like LimeCrete! Right now I’m wanting to make concrete pavers using a simple paving template... anyways I love the natural tones of limestone, I love the lighter colors of concrete or when concrete is in different vibrant and pastel colors as well, but for my backyard space I want a very natural and soft stone walkway for my dogs to stay out of the mud and from there I’d like to actually make structures that look very natural and anyways I’ve been researching everything from LimeCrete to making paths with the dirt in your yard and a small mix of concrete or cement, your dirt and Crete mix cures into a hard dirt surface but a very natural beautiful surface at that, hopefully my Aussies can’t dig through lmao. I’ve seen adobe and all others... I ask you because you’re the king of concrete and building with it and I don’t know but I’d love to see you apply more natural materials into your Crete builds I guess not that you need to change at all!!! If you ignore my silly request I completely respect that and will I’ve all the other things you create. I just thought... how cool would it be to create new mixes with different materials like straw instead of fiberglass and I don’t know maybe I should be the one to play with cement and dirt lol but I’d like you would find the answers and the best combinations or advice
Thanks! New materials definitely peak my interest.... especially those that are a bit more eco-friendly. Its definitely something I would like to dxplore more at some point in the future
Have you worked with jesmonite? What do you think the benefits of GFRC versus Jesmonite are?
Does saw stop blag many times with u? And how long u had the saw?
Good 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks!
Hi. In place of fiberglass, can I use polyethylene fiber?
Enjoyed this video as well. Do you have any recommendations for making a gfrc or concrete counter that could be placed over my existing ugly counter top. Or would it be best to remove the one I have and build the mold based on those dimensions?
GFRC is really made to be pre-cast in a form, so it is best to remove the old one and replace it.
Nice
Thanks!
Would this work to make flooring tiles? ...I can't see why not
What a concrete tutorial
Thanks much!
Great job. Pls what is the varnish?
Another awesome but simple build, it literally looks like marble, from an untrained eye you can probably get away with calling it marble. BTW never gonna miss a video from you I think. lol
Thanks man! That is a huge compliment :)
Hi Mike, Great video. I once worked for a company which made marble- and other floor coverings with natural stone „marbled“ surfaces (out of PVC). The marble effect was produced by laying layers of different colours over each other, and then rolling them up like a pancake can be rolled up. These were then flattened by putting them between two rollers (which could otherwise be done using a kitchen rolling pin). This process can be repeated eg 2-3 times in order to achieve the desired „marble“ effect. It is maybe a bit less of a hit or miss process than the one you have used.
Thanks much! That is interesting. Probably less hit or miss, but I'm guessing those are some pretty heavy duty and specialized machines used in that process?
Modustrial Maker Indeed, in the PVC flooring industry the rolled-up pvc layers were pressed between rollers, but layers of different coloured rolled-up concrete could be flattened using a simple kitchen rolling pin to make a tray in a similar way to the one you showed in your video.
That is a really cool idea. If you pressed it against melamine it would probably give you a flat top. You would just need to figure out how to square off the corners.
Modustrial Maker Mike, after the rolled-up layers of concrete have been flattened used the rolling pin (probably twice or three times) the mass can be slipped into the mould like a pancake. The effect would not be a mottled look like you have shown, but would be more like a grainy wood effect. Probably the concrete layers would have to be „thicker“ ie more viscous than you have shown in your video, and some experiments would have to be carried out in order to fine-tune the technique for concrete.
Modustrial Maker Mike, it just occurred to me that it would be easy to try out this method using plasticene in various colours : make eg 3 sheets of plasticene in different colours, lay them on top of each other, and roll them up together, flatten them out using a rolling pin, and repeat at least once. Then you should see the „layering“ or „grainy wood“ effect that I previously described. Could be cool in concrete !
Cool project, even cooler loft Frazier. I def want to try out some GFRC on a future project. Keep it up!
Thanks Rick! You should definitely try it out!
Is there sand with the concrete or is it just plain concrete and fiberglass?
I was curious if I could use a silicone mold for some projects? For instance I wanted to make coasters. Thought silicone would be a simpler way of molding to a shape I want. :)
Yes you can and they have some one Amazon. You might want to make frames to surround it your rubber.
Finally got a chance to watch this video (only a day late I guess)! Great build and even greater GFRC instructional video, Mike! I am definitely saving this one for when I give GFRC a shot. How long would you say you have to work with once the concrete is all mixed and ready to go for a batch this size?
Thanks much! working time will vary greatly with temperature. In my shop at about 70 degrees, I'd say I have 25-30 minutes.
Wow that's pretty good! Thanks, Mike!
No problem!
Hi what is the ratio between glass fiber and concrete mix?
Are you adding more fiber to GFRC?
Do you recommend this for flooring? I don't prefer staining, i like this step better.
GFRC would be really expensive as a flooring material, but would work
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how much does the tray end up weighing?
Over to you -- name of a movie about my life?
bob the builder
Great video! Very informative. Now it's my turn. Fingers crossed!
Can you get the charcoal and blue pigment links update? Ty!! I m guessing the powder does alot better than the liquid to get those marble veins?
+keasbeysknight Links are updated now
I have a large island that would take six men to turn over so i would rather pour it in place. Have you tried this with GFRC and the marble pigments? If so, how did it come out?
Can I do this with common portland cement and fine sand?
Sort of.... You need white Portland cement and quikrete fine or medium white sand. You can get those locally. To make your own GFRC, you also need acrylic polymer, plasticizer, and glass fibers. Those ingredients you probably have to order online
Q. for you about GFRC and adding fiberglass to it as you did. My understanding is that the alkalinity of concrete breaks down the silica that the glass fibers are made of, so a specific engineered glass fiber has to be used when mixed with concrete that will not disintegrate. When you buy ready-made GFRC it contains that special kind of fiberglass, but I saw you add handfuls of what looked like regular cut strand to the mix. Are you using alkaline resistant glass fiber, or do you feel that it's unnecessary for a decorative/ non-structural piece like that?
Thx.
I used alkali resistant (AR) glass fibers. I've never used any other kind, so I don't know for sure how fast the breaking down occurs, but I wouldn't want to risk it.
Hey just wanted to share, I've had my best marbling results by simply sprinkling lines of dry pigment into my mold before pouring the concrete. I don't have any photos unfortunately, but whenever I try mixing in the pigment I find that I get unpleasantly blurred results. The downside is that you cant sand very far, but it looks great!
Cool idea, I'll have to give it a try sometime!
Do you get pitting with that technique? I did the same with sanded grout and it looks pretty cool, but when I went to clean the top to add a sealer, the grout washes out and leaves voids. It was still okay, but maybe not ideal for a perfectly smooth counter top.
So many great tips in this one Mike! You really made GFRC look super easy - curious how it compares cost wise to normal concrete?
Thanks! Cost wise, its like the difference between plywood and solid walnut...GFRC is definitely more expensive. But, you pay for what you get :)
This turned out incredible. I'm not finding a good source close to me for that particular mix of concrete though. Any other recommendation. I'm not far from where Mike (Modern Builds) lived in OKC, so if you do know a good source near him, I would love to hear it. I want to do a kitchen island with a concrete top with inset chopping block. This method would be awesome for the colors I want to work in.
Thanks! I'll add links in the video description by tomorrow. And feel free to DM me on Instagram
I want to mable my whole studio floors. Ballpark estimate, I'm guessing I have 350ft² to stain. Will this technique work on large projects?
honestly I wouldn't advise it.... you could make tiles, but at that point, buying marble tiles would be less expensive and way easier.
Can you explain the sawstop incident in a bit more detail? What was required to get the saw back online and did you need a new blade?
Yes, you have to buy a new blade and a new cartridge / break mechanism for the saw.
I've done that before on my Sawstop. So frustrating. hahaha at least it was Chris' saw.
Yeah, made for good tv, but hitting that buy button for the new cartridge and blade afterwards is painful....
@@modustrial seriously... I'm hosting Popwood playback for popular woodworking this week. Going to feature this video. It's great
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@@modustrial deal
What are those disks under the frame when sanding? @10:44
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Fantastic, sir! I'm mirroring this for countertops!
Question - I'd like to apply a fiberless face coat then a reinforced fillcoat using this coloring technique. Any suggestions or changes to this process?
For countertops, doing it with a face coat and a back coat is a good idea. I would suggest just doing the exact same process I did, without the fibers, and pour in a .25" face coat. Let it get firm, but not completely dry, before pouring a back coat with fibers in. (and do back coat with same swirling process).
@@modustrial .25"....got it. How thin/thick is acceptable for the back coats? MUCH appreciate it, sir! BTW, I really enjoy seeing color and texture variations for future concrete vids.
For a table like this, I would recommend at least 3/4" thick, so minimum of 1/2" back coat.
How do you make it look like this on the surface with a separate initial layer that is sprayed on, like in your other videos? Super interested in getting into this, making some things, and eventually giving my countertops a go.
When I've done marble I have always poured in the face coat instead of spraying...I haven't tried getting a marble effect when spraying, but I'm sure there is a way... Just have to figure it out....maybe that's something I'll work on for a future video :)
@@modustrial Thank you for the reply! Is there any reason I wouldnt' be able to or shouldn't make a typical kitchen countertop using the pour in face coat versus the spray? I really love that look you produced.
The spray will give you a bit cleaner surface out of the form, and is necessary if you want to do large verticals in your form, but for a flat countertop, pouring the face coat works well too.
i know it's been a wile but can you use it as a cutting plate?
I wouldn't recommend it....it is similar to marble and I think it would get chipped by a sharp knife blade over time.
I don'y know why I have way more empathy for these 2 than Zuck, I hope one day they will make him bite the dust eventually
Great job. Can we make slabs of size 5 feet by 3 feet of thickness 1 inch by this method?
Yup, absolutely.
@@modustrial can this be done with normal cement?
Hello, what kind of liquid that you put in your concrete mix in this video(the one that use syringe)??
That is a plasticizer. It is is available from Fishstone
Are they make concrete waterproof?? Any recommendations items for make concrete products waterproof??
Can you use this technique for concrete countertops?
Yes, absolutely. You'll want to make them a bit thicker than 5/8".... Doing about 3/4" or 1" thick would be perfect for countertops.
I was looking at using the Z-Form countertop forms. - Wondering if you can use 1 lift of regular countertop concrete and then a layer of GFRC mix on top and in the edge form.
I think that z forms is actually similar to a GFRC mix, or might be one with a very low fiber amount. Their system is more expensive and is pour in place instead of precast. I wouldn't mix systems....the decision really comes down to whether pour in place or precast is best for you
Maybe you did and I skipped over it but did you define GFRC? Acronyms and abbreviations should be defined at their first use.
Any knowledge on using Rapid Set Mortar Mix? No fiber needed from what I've seen.
I've seen some of the videos professing it to be some miracle, but it isn't quite the easy answer its made out to be. Its main benefit over regular concrete mix is not having large aggregate, but it doesn't have the strength of GFRC -- rapid set needs to be poured 1.5" thick and needs rebar if you are doing unsupported spans.
Hmm what about adding fiber to it?
Still wouldn't be the same.... Gfrc is more than just fiber. The polymer and plasticizer in the mix combined with fibers make it so strong. You can add plasticizer to rapid set, but the polymer you can't....and it is pricy, so you won't find it in cheap mixes. Basically the polymer is a liquid plastic that combined with water turns to a solid that bonds cement particles, so some of the water essentially turns to solid instead of evaporating and weakening the final product
Question, why don't you level the wet concrete by scraping with a plank of wood? Surely it'd level it, and mean less sanding?
That is tricky with GFRC. The fibers tend to catch on the wood and pull away from the sides, in my experience. The fluid mix is self leveling for the most part, so it is only about 3 or 4 minutes of sanding.
Modustrial Maker ahh alright yep, that makes sense
Easier and n cleaner than your average acid staining
Very informative, and it looks great! I'm just bummed at how expensive it is to get the GFRC shipped :-(
Thanks! And yes, it is unfortunately expensive to ship. There are ways to make your own that can reduce that cost with locally sourced white cement and sand, but they aren't as convenient. You could also check whether there is a distributor of Fishstone, Surecrete, Trinic, or Buddy Rhodes near you (just go to their websites to look it up), so you could pick some up. It is such a great product, it should be more widely available.... right now we are creating the demand for it, so hopefully the supply will meet it eventually.
Thanks for the fast reply! I'll check if I can find some locally. Otherwise I'll look into making some.
8mm thick gloves?
Yes, and I misspoke, they are actually nitrile gloves. I'll post a link to ones I use in video description tomorrow
They might be 8 mil(thousands of an inch) but 8 millimetres would be way too thick to move your hands - that's over a quarter inch😬
Looked it up. You are totally right :) 8 mil
Haha! Keep up the good work - I've been working on my own "rings of saturn" light for a while now :)
Nice, can't wait to see it!
Do you not screed GFRC? If not why?
Screeding doesn't work that well because glass fibers catch on the wood. The plasticizer makes it fairly self leveling, and then you can just grind/sand off any excess on the back.
Что за смесь такая и как называется?
it is a GFRC mix . ссылка на него приведена в описании видео
that moment when you try to convert gallon , aaannnd into pound.
can i chop on it?
It's similar to marble ... You could, but you'll get "character" marks 😀
they sell marble tile that size for $4 at home depot
Yes, but I think the point of the video was showing the process to do bigger slabs, which you cannot get anything comparable for $4/sq ft lol.
@@shadiahmad9986 $2 per sq ft. There's 2 feet of tile.
Lol, you're splitting hairs. Can't compare tile to slab. He just made a small slab to demonstrate the process.
3:38 "8 or 9 millimeter gloves" ... those would be excellent winter gloves lol. I think you meant mils :)
You are correct sir :)
What tripped the SawStop?
The incra crosscut sled hit it....anything conductive (metal or a finger) will trip it.
Roger that, I did the same thing with my saw and my aluminum cross cut rail. Gets your attention, but it's nice to know it works. Expensive too!
Yeah, very expensive. But better than a finger I guess!
Amazing project... and SawStop should be a sponsor for this one. At least the cost of a brake and blade ;)
Thanks! I'll screen shot this, send it to SawStop, and cross my fingers.... :)
All great videos, however you always keep using Fishstne's mix which doesn't seem to be available in UK (TBH there doesn't seem to be any GFRC mixes). An idea for a video, how to make mix GFRC yourself with white Portland (like Snowcrete for example).
Thanks! Actually, there is a distributor in the UK:
House of Concrete
Contact: Jason Morris
Phone: +447824819795
Email: Jason@houseofconcrete.co.uk
Also, there are recipe links in the description. And, if you search for me on Instructables (same user name, Modustrial maker), you'll find instructables with lots of detail on making GFRC from scratch. I think my instructable on the GFRC hearth has the most detail, so definitely recommend starting there. Hope that helps!
@@modustrial It does help indeed, thanks. Looking to make a nice concrete table for my garden (when the time allows.), 1st concrete DIY :)
Awesome! If you go with GFRC, I recommend doing a little test piece, just to get a feel for the mix process and how it behaves, before diving into your big process :) it is expensive stuff, and I think it's better to use a bit of it to learn on a small piece, rather than risk having your main one not turn out as you hope :)
Homie looks like Hoodie Allen
Ha, thats a new one, but I'll take it :)
I'm going to do a video on how to go buy a scrap of marble from a counter top place. lol
Homemade Modern already made that video ;)
Loved the project, looks great, but I felt super uncomfortable watching you sand it back; where’s the PPE my dude? You’re sanding concrete and glass fibres, you should have a mask at the very least. It’s not as bad when it’s wet I know, but you sanded dry too, and you only get one set of lungs.
You are right....I quickly put it on. If you notice, the second half of the sanding segment I'm wearing my mask.
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So you are. Thanks for the reply, and thanks for taking it the way it was intended. You’ve got yourself another subscriber.
So you are. Thanks for the reply, and thanks for taking it the way it was intended. You’ve got yourself another subscriber.
So you are. Thanks for the reply, and thanks for taking it the way it was intended. You’ve got yourself another subscriber.
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