Biggest fire I ever attended was make pumps 40, and it took 3 days to put the fire out and we also had help from the USAF as well in total 66 fire crews eventually were on the fire ground with over 44 firefighters taken to hospital.
Whomever was managing that traffic on the roundabout for the first half of this video was a real muppet. In fact, actual muppets would have done a better job probably :o You don't tell people to just wait on the side of the road on a roundabout till the fire is done, that'll take hours. Tell em to bugger off and find a parking spot somewhere so you keep the roads clear for emergency traffic, just look how far those trucks are backed up.
Makes sense considering its a group of firefighters showing up in 1 vehicle rather then single high ranking officers showing up in their cars usually from different parts of the city
Genuinely infuriating that the police aren’t managing the traffic at all. Trucks just queuing up like the fire will be out in a couple of minutes. Keep the access clear, that’s literally why they’re there.
Great work though fire peeps. I watch a lot of US fire response videos here in the Uk, and I always look out for the dude in the shorts and T shirt who rocks up like that in all weathers and situations. Important role no doubt but their attire always makes me smile
They are the drivers, who remain with the pump and are responsible for maintaining water to the incident. This is not an easy job, requiring them to have a good knowledge both of the hydrants and the number of lines the pump can support at the required pressure. On a major incident, they may need to fuel and add lube oil to the pump. This may be very difficult wearing full attire and a helmet. In addition, they may need to organise water from distant supplies requiring tandem trucks along the route, supply pumped water to the ladders, or set up suction to draw water from tankers of a lake (requiring strainers), not to mention moving their truck. On large incidents, their attire makes it obvious to the command post that they are not available as firefighters. The US deal with much larger fires than the UK or western Europe, some of them going on for days, so this arrangement works, avoiding problems such as pumps running out of fuel or overheating.
First off... the state of that road... holy shit. Second... what the hell were the police doing there because it certainly was not even remotely approaching effective traffic control. Also... how many officers does it take to put out that fire which by all accounts wasnt even that big?
Having a command structure and on scene command is crucial, without coordination or people to keep track and assign tasks it will simply become a place of uncoordinated chaos that can end up with things getting worse. That is why there is a national handbook for command strategies.
Greetings from the other side of the pond. Has LFB changed their station/appliance numbering system? I noticed pumps numbered both E221 and F221. I didn’t think there could be stations numbered 22 in both E and F divisions. Please set me straight, I don’t know as much about LFB operations as I would like to.
There is stations numbered 21-46 in all divisions, A, H, F, E, G, with some omissions in each division (e.g., no A27, H30, F31) as stations have closed over the years, additionally, newly formed stations like Heathrow (G56) and Harold Hill (F57) have high numbers in the 50 range for whatever reason. I can send you a list of all stations and callsigns if you want.
@@LondonEmergency999 What little I know about the LFB I learned from reading the book Red Watch and from a firefighter friend who visited London and Hampshire many years ago.
Absolutely cracking video mate. 3 Fire brigades involved. were they bought in from essex,due to lack of kent cover or is it that they are strategically placed to attend.
Thanks mate, with the fire brigade not to sure as Essex and Kent like to help out London especially Rainham Area as they always attends but unknown if it’s strategically placed to attend
All fire brigades come under the command of the Home Office, so although each county operates financially independent of each other they are all ostensibly one fire brigade. This shout was, apparently, a 20 pumper, that would stretch any one county and leave its risks under covered, so cross border shouts are the norm. I don't recall attending any cross border shouts but we frequently moved to cover the bigger station in the next town while they sent their appliances to cross border incidents. One particular time one of our appliances went to cover the bigger station and a rural fire station appliance covered our station.
@@HarryEmergencyVids There’s two Rainham’s - one in (old) Essex and one in Kent. This was the London/ old Essex county one, bringing Kent over the river is part of a radius call-out between the three brigades. Kent would also have had to battle through the Dartford crossing, they did well to make that timeline. Moving Essex (Grays and Orsett) to this job was far easier, with Rayleigh and Brentwood then being able to move down to cover Grays and Orsett’s grounds.
the crews will wait to be given instructions from the Command Unit. they turn up, hand in their nominal roll board which has names and skill list and then they get deployed around the incident ground with varying tasks etc.
The police were there dickhead. Clearly the HGVs and other vehicles couldn’t be bothered to move, even though the industrial estate was clearly closed.
Considering it appears to be a major hub for industrial activity AND the highway is right there, its actually not that easy. Please educate yourself before harassing people when you dont even understand how difficult their job is nor the strategies in place.
@@amazonbox5551Oh give it a rest. I guarantee there will be thirty of them stood rubber necking the fire, there ALWAYS are. Even as a Sub Officer I've had to detail members of my own crew to direct traffic as the police showed no interest in doing so. If you've see some of the early videos of the Strangeways riots that Sub Officer stood at the junction of Bury New Rd and Southall St conducting traffic is me. There were dozens of police stood doing nothing at the time.
Typical, get to the incident and there will be 30 police with their thumbs up their backsides stood watching instead of clearing the traffic approaches for for appliances. Some things never change.
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Biggest fire I ever attended was make pumps 40, and it took 3 days to put the fire out and we also had help from the USAF as well in total 66 fire crews eventually were on the fire ground with over 44 firefighters taken to hospital.
That's insane, where was it ?
@@spacepotato3677 D&L Plastics in Thetford Norfolk uk type it in a watch the video
Whomever was managing that traffic on the roundabout for the first half of this video was a real muppet.
In fact, actual muppets would have done a better job probably :o
You don't tell people to just wait on the side of the road on a roundabout till the fire is done, that'll take hours.
Tell em to bugger off and find a parking spot somewhere so you keep the roads clear for emergency traffic, just look how far those trucks are backed up.
Look at the state of that road!
Great video, like the fact there seemed to be more officer cars than pumps 😂😂
Makes sense considering its a group of firefighters showing up in 1 vehicle rather then single high ranking officers showing up in their cars usually from different parts of the city
Plod being useless as per. They need to divert all that LGV traffic to free up the underpass.
Genuinely infuriating that the police aren’t managing the traffic at all. Trucks just queuing up like the fire will be out in a couple of minutes.
Keep the access clear, that’s literally why they’re there.
Good vid. Surprised we didn't see a TL turn up for a job that size
Great stuff! Different side of the pond, same traffic. Get out the way!
Thanks
31 Fire Trucks/Cars, 6 Police, and 3 Ambulances. There seemed to be more fire cars than trucks 😂😂.
Ruislip truck in Rainham? That's like 40 miles.
The state of that traffic control is crazy
Great work though fire peeps. I watch a lot of US fire response videos here in the Uk, and I always look out for the dude in the shorts and T shirt who rocks up like that in all weathers and situations. Important role no doubt but their attire always makes me smile
They are the drivers, who remain with the pump and are responsible for maintaining water to the incident. This is not an easy job, requiring them to have a good knowledge both of the hydrants and the number of lines the pump can support at the required pressure. On a major incident, they may need to fuel and add lube oil to the pump. This may be very difficult wearing full attire and a helmet.
In addition, they may need to organise water from distant supplies requiring tandem trucks along the route, supply pumped water to the ladders, or set up suction to draw water from tankers of a lake (requiring strainers), not to mention moving their truck.
On large incidents, their attire makes it obvious to the command post that they are not available as firefighters. The US deal with much larger fires than the UK or western Europe, some of them going on for days, so this arrangement works, avoiding problems such as pumps running out of fuel or overheating.
First off... the state of that road... holy shit. Second... what the hell were the police doing there because it certainly was not even remotely approaching effective traffic control. Also... how many officers does it take to put out that fire which by all accounts wasnt even that big?
How many times do people flag down that LFB bus on the way, ahem I mean “command centre” 😂
That new command u it’s pretty cool!
How many SUVs does it take to put out a fire?
Having a command structure and on scene command is crucial, without coordination or people to keep track and assign tasks it will simply become a place of uncoordinated chaos that can end up with things getting worse. That is why there is a national handbook for command strategies.
Greetings from the other side of the pond. Has LFB changed their station/appliance numbering system? I noticed pumps numbered both E221 and F221. I didn’t think there could be stations numbered 22 in both E and F divisions. Please set me straight, I don’t know as much about LFB operations as I would like to.
There is stations numbered 21-46 in all divisions, A, H, F, E, G, with some omissions in each division (e.g., no A27, H30, F31) as stations have closed over the years, additionally, newly formed stations like Heathrow (G56) and Harold Hill (F57) have high numbers in the 50 range for whatever reason. I can send you a list of all stations and callsigns if you want.
@@LondonEmergency999 What little I know about the LFB I learned from reading the book Red Watch and from a firefighter friend who visited London and Hampshire many years ago.
The first one kinda looks like a bus ngl
That's because they are. Retired buses that have been converted into command units.
What engine is mounted on the V60 at 15:50? It sounds very nice
It’s a Volvo V90 B6 engine with 295 Brake horsepower
@@HarryEmergencyVidsDoes it come with chips and salad?
What’s the equivalent of a Battalion Chief over in London, and what do they drive?
It’s a goer! Great vid 🙂
Looked like a fireman's Beano the the South of England.
Absolutely cracking video mate. 3 Fire brigades involved. were they bought in from essex,due to lack of kent cover or is it that they are strategically placed to attend.
Thanks mate, with the fire brigade not to sure as Essex and Kent like to help out London especially Rainham Area as they always attends but unknown if it’s strategically placed to attend
Station 50 ecfrs is Grays
Only 7.5 miles away from the incident
And station 55 is Orsett only 9.6
@@bluelineairsoftesc4975 Thankyou for the info.
All fire brigades come under the command of the Home Office, so although each county operates financially independent of each other they are all ostensibly one fire brigade.
This shout was, apparently, a 20 pumper, that would stretch any one county and leave its risks under covered, so cross border shouts are the norm.
I don't recall attending any cross border shouts but we frequently moved to cover the bigger station in the next town while they sent their appliances to cross border incidents.
One particular time one of our appliances went to cover the bigger station and a rural fire station appliance covered our station.
@@HarryEmergencyVids There’s two Rainham’s - one in (old) Essex and one in Kent. This was the London/ old Essex county one, bringing Kent over the river is part of a radius call-out between the three brigades. Kent would also have had to battle through the Dartford crossing, they did well to make that timeline. Moving Essex (Grays and Orsett) to this job was far easier, with Rayleigh and Brentwood then being able to move down to cover Grays and Orsett’s grounds.
Great video mate, some good catches there.
Thank you
Amazing video!
What’s with all the trucks just sitting there?
the crews will wait to be given instructions from the Command Unit. they turn up, hand in their nominal roll board which has names and skill list and then they get deployed around the incident ground with varying tasks etc.
@@georgedawson7895 I was actually talking about the HGVs and cars blocking up the round about but thanks for the info
@@spewmister Sorry! I'm not the brightest spark in the universe
1.00 - it’s alright London, Essex are here 😂 We’ll put out your fires and nick your kit afterwards 😅😅
Really don't know why the police are there as they just seem to be standing around doing nothing.
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nice video andvehicle
Nice video :)
Great vid 👌
Nice one
Good video mate
Thanks
Awesome 😎
Nice Catches!
Shame on the cops for NOT Diverting Traffic.DO YOUR JOB.
The police were there dickhead. Clearly the HGVs and other vehicles couldn’t be bothered to move, even though the industrial estate was clearly closed.
Considering it appears to be a major hub for industrial activity AND the highway is right there, its actually not that easy. Please educate yourself before harassing people when you dont even understand how difficult their job is nor the strategies in place.
@@amazonbox5551Oh give it a rest. I guarantee there will be thirty of them stood rubber necking the fire, there ALWAYS are. Even as a Sub Officer I've had to detail members of my own crew to direct traffic as the police showed no interest in doing so. If you've see some of the early videos of the Strangeways riots that Sub Officer stood at the junction of Bury New Rd and Southall St conducting traffic is me. There were dozens of police stood doing nothing at the time.
@@amazonbox5551haha have a day off.... uk cops absolutely clueless.... all about box ticking now than the right man for the job. Embarrassment
What does U P H L mean?
Urine, Poo, Hell, Loser
Ultra High Pressure Lance
Who’s all the random MOPS stood about?
Firefighters or civilians? Theres an explanation for both.
People who have been evacuated from their work?
You you taki.g yhe mick the coppers didnt shut the road down the amount of traffict slowing down the LFB and LAS its bollocks
Barent?
Barents PL and HVP - they have to send out PL with the HVP
@HarryEmergencyVids..... yeah I get that, but where is Barents? Never heard of it. Do you mean Barnet's?
So you arrive at a fire before the fire brigade and you just stand there filming rather than doing something to help?
@superbro3491 what’s he supposed to do? Grab a bucket or two and start throwing water on it?
I don’t think he has his own fire apparatus, the fuck do you want him to do?? 😂😂😂
@eriksand9262 my dad says you mustn't swear at me cause I'm only 9. He said to report you, but I'm scared you'll get me.
@@superbro3491 Is that your age or your IQ?
@@Kebaskia it's my age, I'm almost 10! And I'm actually really smart for my age
Typical, get to the incident and there will be 30 police with their thumbs up their backsides stood watching instead of clearing the traffic approaches for for appliances. Some things never change.