Hedgehog Space Program is another legitimate name for a speedrun technique in Frontiers, so Sonic speedrunners have a long legacy of naming these things well, I guess.
I love how for city escape there’s this unknown skip that was done by some random guy years ago and to this day no one knows how he did, not even himself. Truly a mystery I can’t wait for someone to solve.
@@spimbles Discussed near the end. You somehow clip off the famous loop before the wall run by spindashing and homing attacking to the side, eventually flying off the side of it into the Truck segment.
Dude you just blew my mind. When sonic needed to light dash the rings. Then jumped down then there was a rocket. I've played this game since release. You just taught me something thanks!
You did my poor man king boom boo dirty, he's just a goofy ghost. As a child he really was my favourite bossgihht, he has so many expressive voicelines and the ambiance he just so funky, plus you get to see knuckles running extra fast, I dunno I really like it!
I agree. He may not be plot relevant, but he's fun and unique. He might exist only to give knuckles a boss fight besides rouge though. Tails already only has his rival fights.
33:14 I love how Big the Cat is just sprinkled throughout the game. I never knew how well hidden he was, and barely even noticed him here in the video.
Honestly I never forgot about King Boom Boo mostly because of the silly noises he makes and the music that plays with it. He's very memorable to me because of his sounds.
The russian youtuber named retro freak tried to do a ringless run on sa2 in 2020. He overcame the Crazy Gadget with glitch spin dashing into a wall in the Light Dash section and then getting to the Goal without the speedrun tricks,, So there are indeed multiple ways to go on that one, less technical and more of the 'feel' ones. Great job!! the King boom boo anxiety is real...
That rocket in Metal Harbor is there since that's the first time in the series that you're supposed to use the lightspeed dash whilst running. The rest of the lines of rings in that level are in controlled environments to get the player used to the ability. The reason you pick up the power up so high up is so you have to lose all of your momentum in the level, so you can approach the first lightspeed dash as slow as possible. It's a design choice that allows for you to keep your momentum on repeat playthroughs too
Just a tip for Biolizard: If you homing attack a specific part of its body really fast, you can climb up the body without having to worry about the dark orbs
G.U.N Truck Skip, now with more than 240p: th-cam.com/video/Oio8Xl_rXEw/w-d-xo.html For clarification, this was done on Dolphin simply because it was quicker to boot that up than to login into Steam and set that up to record in OBS. Did later test on the Steam version. It still works, and can be done without Bounce Bracelet. Zero Rings/Zero Score City Escape is perfectly doable on more recent hardware.
Bro I love the way he sets up that joke on White Jungle w/ the chao abuse. I was beyond ready for him to mention it and he just like chucks off the chao without a word this time and as the viewer you know exactly what's going on. THAT is how you make comedy. XD
I actually knew about the Rocket in Metal Harbor through playing Randomizer. It's so funny that it's there, but I'm not complaining about being able to beat the level without light speed shoes lol
That Rocket being there on Metal Harbor is CRAZY. I've put an insane amount of time into this game and didn't know that. Let me keep watching I'm hooked now.
That moment when Prison Lane doesn't ruin a challenge run- Edit: But of course Hidden Base has to come in and ruin everything because of course it does.
If I’m being honest, not telling us how you beat final rush ringless kinda seems like a copout 😐 isn’t the point of the video to show us that you went through the stage not getting rings? It can seem kinda fishy when you just cut to the end with a zero ring count cause you could’ve gotten hit before the goal
You know, you had enough content to make a whole video on just the hero story and then the dark story for another whole video. I respect the fact that you didn’t do that. You just gained a subscriber.
I knew before watching it would not be possible without some TAS level shenanigans, but I didn’t expect the run would technically be over 5 minutes into City Escape. Dem boost pads.
This is why I love seeing stuff like this. It's amazing to see speedrunners and challenge runners do games in ways you wouldn't even imagine. If I ever make a game, I'd honestly be looking forward to what they do.
Gonna be honest, starting a stage with Rings you didn't actively collect shouldn't count, since it's not like you wanted to have them. I don't even understand why the game gives them to you (aside from Golem) because there's no immediate threat you'd need protection from anyway, weird choices the Devs made there
Those dang Peach Rings. . .they were the currency that trained the Ninja coins in the New Soup series. Regardless it's incredible what the community has managed to accomplish. -Also to put the shipping war aside we all know Blazamy best Sonic ship-
jayzes, not only did the dude beat RadicalHighway without Rings, not only did he beat it with an insanely-low score (how do you even Get just 1 point?), but he also did all that in less than two minutes?? thats around the same time i get on that level, when im Unrestricted...hopefully he waited a good coupla minutes before touching the Goal Ring though, or else that TimeBonus is gonna ruin such a perfectly low score :-P
This man is a genius. They should just take this whole videos idea and turn it into a official challenge called, "ringless run" and if you collect a ring then you will die immediately. But the City escape rings that where you have to go under the sign those rings are going to be gone and the pulley rings, that's going to be gone too. All impossible rings really.
18:30 you can hit the golem with light speed attack, doing so he will take double damage from the attack, minimizing the number of times you have to land thus minimizing the chance of collecting a ring on landing.
Seriously tho…what is king boom boo? Why does he exist? Does egg man know he exists? Are they allies, or did egg man just construct his base on top of a place haunted by a ghost monster? Why does NO ONE mention him or what just happened?
It's interesting how difficult combat becomes when you're ringless all the time. It would be interesting to try playing this with a mod that constantly sets your ring count 0 (except while super i guess) and try to speedrun it like that
Funny story about City Escape: Look at the Every Level as Knuckles/Rouge series. SONIC might not be able to finish city escape without rings but the treasure chars can.
FIVE RINGS. AND THEN FIVE RINGS. BUT THEN FIVE RINGS? FIVE RINGS. FIVE. RINGS. Jesus that bit was REALLY hard to sit through. We get it. Our memory retention is in fact longer than 5 seconds.
There is a way to beat city escape (I think) after the first 2 running sections you will come across a ramp it you spinach at the right time and do a trick you will gain enough night to be able to flip through the floor and make your way to the Gun-truck section, without triggering it and skipping passage-way that has 5 rings be causous about collecting rings on The way though.
You know, we can try a challenge together in SA2B, about completing all 12 characters (from 2P Battle) in action stages including the Mechless Characters (Tails and Eggman)
Should someone tell him that you can Homing Attack spam against Elder Shadow/Biolizard to get up to him life support device weakpoint, bypassing his actual attack phases and the need to wait for heavy breathing and pink balls?
Good video overall, but that's kind of lame that you didn't tell us how to do Final Rush. I understand about people wanting to experience that for themselves but this video is specifically ABOUT how to clear the game with no rings.
Fantastic video! Loved every minute. But I completely disagree on all the stages where rings were collected, just say no they can not be completed ringless. Rings were collected during the stage, regardless if you had control or not.
Yeah I don't get this, the entire point of the video is beating stages without collecting rings, beating a stage ringless is completely irrelevant and not worth mentioning as it's hardly a challenge to lose rings in the first place
See more Challenge Runs here:
th-cam.com/play/PLxTXhwRY8meOewHk4jhTgvU9YwjdRYd6u.html
you know a speedrun is crazy when there's a skip for skipping a skip.
Still waiting for a skip to skip a skip that is ment to skip another skip
Dino skip skip anybody
@@neppo25 hell yeah
uno moment
Hedgehog Space Program is another legitimate name for a speedrun technique in Frontiers, so Sonic speedrunners have a long legacy of naming these things well, I guess.
Of course you cant. The goal at the end of each level is a ring. Didnt think of that one huh?
That poses the question: "Do you collect the goal ring or does the goal ring collect you?"
@@faedragonlucy that’s a good question
@@Joshdagod97 Dam this really is THE thread of the video. I'm at a loss for words this is gold lmfao.
@@Takedown right 😂
I mean the goal ring doesn’t make the ring counter go up so does it really count?
I like how the baloon airship thing at 29:06 says "got ring?" So its like the game is mocking you.
Baloon airship? You mean a blimp?
@@SurprisedPika666 Yeah, thanks. I didn't know the word.
Ermmm ackshaully, "got ring" is a pop-culture reference to the "got milk" ads ☝🏻🤓
I love how for city escape there’s this unknown skip that was done by some random guy years ago and to this day no one knows how he did, not even himself. Truly a mystery I can’t wait for someone to solve.
could you be more specific? i would like to see this for myself
@@spimbles did you not watch the video?
@@spimbles
Discussed near the end. You somehow clip off the famous loop before the wall run by spindashing and homing attacking to the side, eventually flying off the side of it into the Truck segment.
Are you referring to son1cgu1tar? The description of his video says his friend taught him how to do it, so he _does_ know how he did it.
I think a TAS I saw did that
2:57 "Run down the stairs, like a n o r m a l p e r s o n."
Dude you just blew my mind. When sonic needed to light dash the rings. Then jumped down then there was a rocket. I've played this game since release. You just taught me something thanks!
Im pretty sure the devs pretty much assumed someone would accidentally miss a powerup and made all of the stages possible to prevent softlocks
ive played this game for the gamecube era and i literally never knew that rocket existed til this video
ive known about it since i was a kid purely cuz my friend was bad at video games and would always fall there lol
@@theneoreformationist There isn't a way to soft lock. You can just exit the stage and re try
@@aaronyayger or just die and go back to the checkpoint before the shoes
You did my poor man king boom boo dirty, he's just a goofy ghost. As a child he really was my favourite bossgihht, he has so many expressive voicelines and the ambiance he just so funky, plus you get to see knuckles running extra fast, I dunno I really like it!
I agree. He may not be plot relevant, but he's fun and unique.
He might exist only to give knuckles a boss fight besides rouge though. Tails already only has his rival fights.
33:14 I love how Big the Cat is just sprinkled throughout the game. I never knew how well hidden he was, and barely even noticed him here in the video.
He only shows up in the Battle remaster. One of the many wonderful additions. 😂
Gotta fimd dat fwoggy!
@@AROAH I mean he was in the original version on the Dreamcast, was only the Gamecube rerelease which deleted him
@@TARDISES No, he shows up in the battle REMASTER. The original Battle release in the gamecube version indeed does not have him.
@@FlergerBergitydershthe original GameCube version absolutely has big the cat,
I literally played this game a thousand times & never knew about that rocket !!!!! I'm in disbelief!!!!!
Tbf, you have literally no reason to want to look around down there- or even stop for the matter- unless you're doing something wild like this
Guess you never played 2 Player.
Honestly I never forgot about King Boom Boo mostly because of the silly noises he makes and the music that plays with it. He's very memorable to me because of his sounds.
I never forgot about him because I never knew how to beat him correctly, I just kept looping until he didn’t turn around
Same, I love his fight for the exact reasons you mentioned
Yeah, he's definitely the most memorable boss in the game besides the Biolizard and obviously Finalhazard.
ive played this game for 20 years and never knew about that rocket in metal harbor
8:36 I just noticed that sonic just casually stand in place while doing a homing attack
The russian youtuber named retro freak tried to do a ringless run on sa2 in 2020. He overcame the Crazy Gadget with glitch spin dashing into a wall in the Light Dash section and then getting to the Goal without the speedrun tricks,, So there are indeed multiple ways to go on that one, less technical and more of the 'feel' ones. Great job!! the King boom boo anxiety is real...
24:13 Eventually, Sonic stopped thinking.
That rocket in Metal Harbor is there since that's the first time in the series that you're supposed to use the lightspeed dash whilst running.
The rest of the lines of rings in that level are in controlled environments to get the player used to the ability.
The reason you pick up the power up so high up is so you have to lose all of your momentum in the level, so you can approach the first lightspeed dash as slow as possible. It's a design choice that allows for you to keep your momentum on repeat playthroughs too
Clever!
"...And ghosts who will--"
My brain: "Try to approach you?"
"--constantly pop out of nowhere to attack you."
My brain: "...Oh."
What?
@@mikeycuh.19 Huh?
@@mikeycuh.19 Part of the pumpkin hill song
@@dominicmesser2425isn’t it Aquatic Mine?
2:43
Eggman taking his own life upon getting 5 rings is a strong statement against Capitalism
that profile pic tho
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@@saucetto2016 Tf
MK Ultra activation code?
Get this man an umbrella
41:24 The ball jokes while the dude doesn't even realize the ball jokes aregenuinely extremely hilarious LOL!
2:10 Sonic dies
"Jammin'!"
Just a tip for Biolizard: If you homing attack a specific part of its body really fast, you can climb up the body without having to worry about the dark orbs
“just avoid rings”
this entire challenge
G.U.N Truck Skip, now with more than 240p:
th-cam.com/video/Oio8Xl_rXEw/w-d-xo.html
For clarification, this was done on Dolphin simply because it was quicker to boot that up than to login into Steam and set that up to record in OBS. Did later test on the Steam version. It still works, and can be done without Bounce Bracelet. Zero Rings/Zero Score City Escape is perfectly doable on more recent hardware.
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Bro I love the way he sets up that joke on White Jungle w/ the chao abuse. I was beyond ready for him to mention it and he just like chucks off the chao without a word this time and as the viewer you know exactly what's going on. THAT is how you make comedy. XD
Great video! Enjoyed it a lot
Same
WolfeyVGC!?
Wait wtf 😭
I think the only stage where it rains is White Jungle
Bold of you to assume I can ever get King Boom Boo out of my mind. He *terrified* me as a kid.
*waits patiently to see crazy gadget*
I actually knew about the Rocket in Metal Harbor through playing Randomizer. It's so funny that it's there, but I'm not complaining about being able to beat the level without light speed shoes lol
"run down the stairs like a normal person" idk running down stairs is hard af lol
Shhh! Don't tell Sonic that!
glad to see you found a way to avoid the spring with rings at the start of sky rail
I'm sure we will manage to conquer this challenge eventually
YO I’ve been playing SA2 for like 18 years and I never knew there was that hidden rocket in Metal Harbor
That Rocket being there on Metal Harbor is CRAZY. I've put an insane amount of time into this game and didn't know that. Let me keep watching I'm hooked now.
That moment when Prison Lane doesn't ruin a challenge run-
Edit: But of course Hidden Base has to come in and ruin everything because of course it does.
...sounds like city escape gun truck skip is the literal top gun for the speed running community
How’s sonic going to pay off his debts now
He won't. He'll just run from them like Yoshi runs from his taxes.
34:00 i was fully expecting you to say "wiggle your elbows and look up into the light"
You can definitely get more then one hit on King Boom Boo in a cycle, but getting all 4 the first one would be extremely difficult.
In all the years of having this game, I've only done it ONCE. Three hits in one go is super easy but that last one is something else!
@@dave_the_slick8584 I’ve never done it, I can do three but never the four.
Funny how "Ringless" sounds like the word brainless despite clearing the game takes more thought this way.
You know we're here for explanations on how you beat the stages ringless, right
If I’m being honest, not telling us how you beat final rush ringless kinda seems like a copout 😐 isn’t the point of the video to show us that you went through the stage not getting rings? It can seem kinda fishy when you just cut to the end with a zero ring count cause you could’ve gotten hit before the goal
Same.
How could anyone possibly forget about King Boom Boo?
BLEGGGH BLEGGHHHHH
I'm so happy he added the King Boom Boo real live reaction anxiety I laughed so friggn hard lmfao.
36:55 this made me laugh so hard I had a coughing fit x3
You know, you had enough content to make a whole video on just the hero story and then the dark story for another whole video. I respect the fact that you didn’t do that. You just gained a subscriber.
I knew before watching it would not be possible without some TAS level shenanigans, but I didn’t expect the run would technically be over 5 minutes into City Escape. Dem boost pads.
This is why I love seeing stuff like this. It's amazing to see speedrunners and challenge runners do games in ways you wouldn't even imagine.
If I ever make a game, I'd honestly be looking forward to what they do.
Gonna be honest, starting a stage with Rings you didn't actively collect shouldn't count, since it's not like you wanted to have them. I don't even understand why the game gives them to you (aside from Golem) because there's no immediate threat you'd need protection from anyway, weird choices the Devs made there
Bruh
Those dang Peach Rings. . .they were the currency that trained the Ninja coins in the New Soup series. Regardless it's incredible what the community has managed to accomplish.
-Also to put the shipping war aside we all know Blazamy best Sonic ship-
A tip for rouge v knuckles. you can just spam drilldive really fast and beat the boss in a few seconds.
Not even 4 minutes in, the answer is no. But you just keep going. Lmao
Wow
The Radical Highway ending is evil.
jayzes, not only did the dude beat RadicalHighway without Rings, not only did he beat it with an insanely-low score (how do you even Get just 1 point?), but he also did all that in less than two minutes?? thats around the same time i get on that level, when im Unrestricted...hopefully he waited a good coupla minutes before touching the Goal Ring though, or else that TimeBonus is gonna ruin such a perfectly low score :-P
You get 1 point through modding. It is impossible in the base game to have 1 point.
21:07 Anyone see Big The Cat running? 😂😂
love the sonadow jokes XD
This man is a genius. They should just take this whole videos idea and turn it into a official challenge called, "ringless run" and if you collect a ring then you will die immediately.
But the City escape rings that where you have to go under the sign those rings are going to be gone and the pulley rings, that's going to be gone too.
All impossible rings really.
18:30 you can hit the golem with light speed attack, doing so he will take double damage from the attack, minimizing the number of times you have to land thus minimizing the chance of collecting a ring on landing.
I go full speed down the vent in Metal Harbor and never hit the ring boxes anyway.
24:50 I remember as a kid when I got to this point I forgot about the light dash ability and did not know how to get past lol
I thought Knuckles's sunglasses was just cosmetic all this time O.O
really cool video. i never expected some of the strategies to avoid rings and it was really interesting.
On pyramid cave, you don't even need the key . You can do a specific spindash and clip through the door
8:36 Sonic, that a nice homing attack trick you got here
Forget boom boo? How could my nightmares let me forget it taunting me as it turns around to chase me away from the hourglass
Biolizard in general is a hard fight my guy. Good job doing it in so few attempts!
THERE'S A ROCKET THERE IN METAL HARBOR ON THE SECOND RING TRAIL?! TF?! 18 years of my life in confusion.
I feel like a lot of SA2 challenge runs are made impossible due to the GUN Truck gate
The rules can play as a factor in determining that
Seriously tho…what is king boom boo? Why does he exist? Does egg man know he exists? Are they allies, or did egg man just construct his base on top of a place haunted by a ghost monster? Why does NO ONE mention him or what just happened?
Ha, friends but doesn't work as team. not friends but work perfect as team.
11:38
thanks my whole body is now tense xD
Hey i like this vid! You've got a cool charismatic vibe and i think am gonna subscribe :)
I've gone all these years not knowing about that rocket in metal harbor. What is my life.
8:18 actually the rocket is probably there for the 2 player mode
I will not stand for this Peach Slander. Peach rings are the best candy, fite me
It's interesting how difficult combat becomes when you're ringless all the time. It would be interesting to try playing this with a mod that constantly sets your ring count 0 (except while super i guess) and try to speedrun it like that
I thought about Sonic Adventure, but... Literally in the first cutscene, Sonic grabs a ring
I feel bad for this but you sound like bently from sly cooper
Funny story about City Escape: Look at the Every Level as Knuckles/Rouge series. SONIC might not be able to finish city escape without rings but the treasure chars can.
Thank you all for making my day when I felt sleepy after a long day at school :D
FIVE RINGS. AND THEN FIVE RINGS. BUT THEN FIVE RINGS? FIVE RINGS. FIVE. RINGS.
Jesus that bit was REALLY hard to sit through. We get it. Our memory retention is in fact longer than 5 seconds.
On the Golem fight with Sonic, using Ancient Light deals double damage. There's a way to exploit this with practice.
This, my friend, is an underrated video
Mythbustering the ending. Very nice.
Fantastic!! 0:09
There is a way to beat city escape (I think) after the first 2 running sections you will come across a ramp it you spinach at the right time and do a trick you will gain enough night to be able to flip through the floor and make your way to the Gun-truck section, without triggering it and skipping passage-way that has 5 rings be causous about collecting rings on The way though.
Spinach? Spindash
Hight
Clip
Yeah ive accidentally done that before.
hey i know you you're in the credits of all of gamechamp-san's videos
All these years and I didn't even know Knuckles had a glasses upgrade.
same lmao
You know, we can try a challenge together in SA2B, about completing all 12 characters (from 2P Battle) in action stages including the Mechless Characters (Tails and Eggman)
Should someone tell him that you can Homing Attack spam against Elder Shadow/Biolizard to get up to him life support device weakpoint, bypassing his actual attack phases and the need to wait for heavy breathing and pink balls?
I am actually aware of this trick, however I could not get it to work.
I remember trying the crazy gadget skip and not even getting past the first jump
That hidden rocket in metal harbor just blew my mind😮
Writing this before watching:
Good luck with the lightspeed Dash sections
And after watching?
You see you brought the game for memories or other reasons
I brought it for the chao garden
It's on steam?? This is my biggest nostalgia game, I'm so excited that I might be able to play it again. thumbs up just for the info, haha
You can Clip through the key doors in pyramid cave and avoid even getting the keys.
Good video overall, but that's kind of lame that you didn't tell us how to do Final Rush. I understand about people wanting to experience that for themselves but this video is specifically ABOUT how to clear the game with no rings.
Damn the entire cast got ring allergies
Fantastic video! Loved every minute.
But I completely disagree on all the stages where rings were collected, just say no they can not be completed ringless. Rings were collected during the stage, regardless if you had control or not.
Yeah I don't get this, the entire point of the video is beating stages without collecting rings, beating a stage ringless is completely irrelevant and not worth mentioning as it's hardly a challenge to lose rings in the first place