I know it's for the benefit of viewers who may not know, but it's hilarious seeing Dude explain to Nick that Horween is a "Very special tannery from Chicago.". 😎
While I’m generally familiar with these qualities, it was cool to see the interview and hear about some of the specific things like the drying process creating a difference
I bought a aero leather jacket in the heaviest weight horsehide available. It is taking some breaking in but I've never seen a better jacket for protection. £750 and built like a tank with a belt. Aero Leathers in Scotland are the best bike jackets I've seen and I've had top Lewis leathers in the 1980s and I looked at Simmonds Bilt. They were good too but Aero Leathers stitching and it's pitch and quality, antique brass zips and tartan wool lining is bespoke and made to measure. I'm glad I never bought schott even if they're good I prefer aero.
Mohamed I thought schott were the best horsehide jackets until I got this 1.4 mm horsehide jacket. The bespoke choice of top tartan lining, the great construction and pitch of the stitching makes the difference, it's important and it's explained on aero leathers web site. The horsehide jacket I have is their only horsehide jacket of that thickness and strength. It really is the most amazing quality and I originally was going to get Simmonds Bilt to make a jacket but they couldn't get the special horsehide I wanted. I liked Simmonds Bilt but when I realised the quality of Aero was so good and the great antiqued brass zips it was a no brainer and even at that price it really was worth the price as i saw when it arrived and I was so happy I'd bought from Aero rather than another company. I had Lewis Leathers in the 1980s with a double zip which I loved but it was stolen . It had cost over £300 then but the aero was tougher. A true old school biker jacket which is me rather than a look alike worn by heavy metal fans trying to look the part. I had a Pakistani made secondhand jacket in cow hide I had for years but the pockets, lining is nylon and foam and that fell apart but the zips and leather is really good especially for the price. If Pakistani makers sort out their lining and style they could do really well especially at the price of £200 as it's not easy to find great quality in cheaper jackets.
Another terrific and informative video Nick...!!! Schott a long time American company.... Have one of their wool CPO jackets.... Their Navy P coat is legendary...! 5 STARS as usual..... Greg
In my experience (Here in Mexico with generic tanned hides) Cowhide is used as the standard for motorcycle jackets, cow tends to be softer and steer, considerably heavier and stiffer. It's personally my favorite type of leather from the country production, almost at CXL resistance. Horsehide can sometimes be seen but the ones i have tried here are rather cheap and not as shiny. The best way to describe them would be pretty much similar to calfskin, around 2.5oz thick and soft, considerably more resistant than lambskin with a pretty tight grain. Lambskin is not worth it here in Mexico in my opinion. The leather is so softly treated, so thin (2oz or less) and so spongy that you can tear it apart barehands. Unless you want a jacket that will be easily damaged or you treat them very carefully, i don't advice it at all. Bear in mind the lamb Schott uses is way better, veg tanned and thicker, firmer. Goatskin i have seen used, and i would prefer it a thousand times above any lambskin. While being extremely thin, it holds a far tighter grain and a much denser, firmer structure than the lamb. And finally, what i consider the best price - value leather in the mexican production: Calfskin. Calf, while being thin, less than 2.5oz (Pretty much at around the thickness of the Mission) is very tightly packed (Not as much as horsehide though) and very shiny overall, more than pretty much any other type of leather from the market. It can be almost as soft as lambskin but also as firm and stiff as horsehide far thicker. That last one doesn't break in as easily but it's a monster and will resist anything since the grain is so tight and strong. Finally, there are a couple of options that i am interested in trying out, even though the cost of a jacket made out of them will jump up a lot with those materials: Veg tanned goatskin from Lefarc and some waxed cowhides from Lefarc as well that i guess would be pretty much an equivalent to CXL. That last one i wanna try out
I purchased a jacket lambskin from Argentina and was good quality, but soft leather, cow is twice durable, tanks for the info, love to get one CXHH, thanks for the info
I got a cowhide leather jacket for 14 years in Leon Mexico still going like new. The mistake I made was to tailor it here in the USA for a better looking a more slim siloete
I got a cowhide leather jacket 14 years ago in Leon Mexico still going like new. The mistake I made was to tailor it here in the USA for a more slim silhouette as Mexican design jackets tend to be bulky looking , I mentioned the mistake because now it's too small since I gained 10 pounds. I tend to go to Leon every 10 years to stack up on leather products but agree leather quality has been reduced even mixed with FAUX leather. It's still a great place for accessories like exotic skin wallets, belts , luggage/bags but not the leather shoes(!ugly looking) and men's jackets. As for women it's paradise since they mostly are fast fashion and even if leather is low quality still is better than faux leather from ZARA at half the price and for some reason the fit for women is much better looking. Men's shoes are ugly I don't understand if a foreigner company comes with their own design and just wants the manufacturing they come out good looking( Luchase boots, jay Butler and Thursday boots)but that same artisan can't copy it and sell it in boutique it
Disculpa, para ti dónde es mejor o dónde encuentras mejores productos de piel en México? En León o hay algunas otras partes o marcas en México que sean de calidad?
I just got a Cape buffalo Indy style jacket. Solid,heavy three season jacket. It is surprisingly supple because of tanning and tumble dry process. Its color and smoothness is luxurious.
Meravigliosi . Adoro l'abbigliamento in Vera pelle.. Sono capì dì abbigliamento intramontabile..ho uno capo dì abbigliamento stile indiano . VOGLIO MODIFICARLO È FARMI UN CAPPOTTO LUNGO.. MOLTO BELLO.. ADORO.!😊
I'm a schott jacket freak the only other leather jacket company I love too is eastman leather jackets, back in the 1960s I remember my grandpa used to wear my father's ww2 b3 jacket and other times he used to wear his ww1 jacket ( that jacket was not leather ) in the winter time it was very cold in south Texas I remember visiting my grandpa's family in a little town outside of del Rio Texas ( we used to live outside of Laredo) the older and more used those jackets were the better they looked.
@@Stridewise You definitely took this the wrong way…but I understand. You did a great job in this video and I saw an opportunity for a follow up video. It will probably be a highly viewed video due to the lack of information on how to care for lamb skin jackets.
Very well done. Could we please get a video on how to care for a leather jacket? I'm especially interested in lambskin as I have a Schott lambskin jacket (style P2531) and he said that you have to take particularly good care of it but did not elaborate further.
What is crazy is with the Horween "Heavy weight" jacket, roughly 50% of the weight is all the magical oils etc. they jam into the leather. While of course the quality of the leather is undoubtedly excellent, half of the perceived weight isn't even leather. And yes, in this case it is an indication of quality, Chromexcel isn't for everyone, and other coats of similar weight would likely be made up of more actual leather, material wise. If you don't know leather, it's almost impossible to "judge what even is quality. Go from, "This (insert leather item) is the straight Bee's knees!" to "I'm ashamed to wear this outdoors now." trying to guess.
I think Hide is where the skin is thick that it got skived down to make different kind of grades and desired thickness, while skin is where the entire animal skin is used because it is thin
Can leather jackets be altered? Problem is my body structure. I finding blazers and shirts are a nightmare for me. I have to get past my shoulders and arms and then get the waist tapered... I'm at the point where lifting is causing me to get custom tailored jackets.
@Stridewise yeah I need a rough tough minimal cafe racer style jacket which I've found online made from the highest quality heavy cow hide. The 2 I found well priced was the Oxford route 73 2.0 leather jacket and the richa detroit leather jacket
Update: I bought the route 73 the torso front is good the back and arms look terrible, I'll probably settle for a regular leather jacket not a motorbike one. But durability is a concern for me
Can't believe when seeing my favorite jacket from SCHOTT coming up at the beginning of the video the P613S PERFECTO® STEERHIDE MOTORCYCLE JACKET in Burgundy and being explained that it comen from a special tannery from Chicago and what kind of leather and rough it is in order to breaking en it. Thanks.for the video props for the TH-camr and keep on going with your work . Please do a video specially on the P613S is the best jacket.
Hey Im just contemplating between sizes of the Schott Perfecto 618 and I would love to know what size and measurement, height the model used, is. If possible of courses. For reference I'm 5,6 slim mascular build I like short jackets for riding my bike the the jacket doesn't bunch when sitting. Chest 37 inches - not sure if a 36 is short enough in length for me and a 34 being too small
The most rugged leather I seen. Good if you're heavy into workwear and the Americana look. Skip if going for a smooth & sexy appearance. Horsehide is equally as masculine but slique
Leather jackets are a luxury item. A lot of people cannot afford such a luxury. For the most part, people buy whatever they see at the mall or in a department store. They aren't going to be getting a single piece of leather on the back, horsehide, shearling, etc. Most people will buy from Wilson's.
Marlon Brando wore a Perfect? No, a Durable. James Dean wore a Perfecto? No, a Cal leathers, an Indian Ranger and a JC Penny brand Sportclad. They never wore Schott. Study.
Buy your best leather when you are young. Don't get fat. The jacket will look fantastic when you are in your 40s, 50s and 60s A good leather will last a couple lifetimes. The lining may not...
I have a calfskin jacket. It's matte compared to goat but patinas better. Lambskin is girly. Refuse steerhide since it's a castrated cattle. Horsehide is hyper masculine but still elegant. Buffalo is TOO rugged. Good if you're deep into workwear Americana. Deer reminds me of goat but it's much rarer
I know it's for the benefit of viewers who may not know, but it's hilarious seeing Dude explain to Nick that Horween is a "Very special tannery from Chicago.". 😎
I have a Shinki horsehide jacket from Schott. It’s a gorgeous jacket but an absolute beast. Two years in and it has barely begun to get worn in.
While I’m generally familiar with these qualities, it was cool to see the interview and hear about some of the specific things like the drying process creating a difference
Any plans to visit Thedi leathers in Greece for an interview? I own one of his jackets, truly a marvel of craftsmanship
Excellent wrap up and conclusion. Well done and appreciate all the details and information.
honestly that wrap up might be the most impressive monologue i've ever done in my life!
I bought a aero leather jacket in the heaviest weight horsehide available. It is taking some breaking in but I've never seen a better jacket for protection. £750 and built like a tank with a belt. Aero Leathers in Scotland are the best bike jackets I've seen and I've had top Lewis leathers in the 1980s and I looked at Simmonds Bilt. They were good too but Aero Leathers stitching and it's pitch and quality, antique brass zips and tartan wool lining is bespoke and made to measure. I'm glad I never bought schott even if they're good I prefer aero.
Yes Aero is very nice. I very much want one. The Scott’s are masters in this field
Mohamed I thought schott were the best horsehide jackets until I got this 1.4 mm horsehide jacket. The bespoke choice of top tartan lining, the great construction and pitch of the stitching makes the difference, it's important and it's explained on aero leathers web site. The horsehide jacket I have is their only horsehide jacket of that thickness and strength. It really is the most amazing quality and I originally was going to get Simmonds Bilt to make a jacket but they couldn't get the special horsehide I wanted. I liked Simmonds Bilt but when I realised the quality of Aero was so good and the great antiqued brass zips it was a no brainer and even at that price it really was worth the price as i saw when it arrived and I was so happy I'd bought from Aero rather than another company. I had Lewis Leathers in the 1980s with a double zip which I loved but it was stolen . It had cost over £300 then but the aero was tougher. A true old school biker jacket which is me rather than a look alike worn by heavy metal fans trying to look the part. I had a Pakistani made secondhand jacket in cow hide I had for years but the pockets, lining is nylon and foam and that fell apart but the zips and leather is really good especially for the price. If Pakistani makers sort out their lining and style they could do really well especially at the price of £200 as it's not easy to find great quality in cheaper jackets.
I love my Aero jacket. I'd buy another, but the break-in is insane. It will last a lifetime though.
Another terrific and informative video Nick...!!! Schott a long time American company.... Have one of their wool CPO jackets.... Their Navy P coat is legendary...! 5 STARS as usual..... Greg
You should go to Toronto Ontario , Canada to Himel Bros leather. Dave really makes some fine stuff.
Toronto, Ontario!
@@robertng138 oh my bad
In my experience (Here in Mexico with generic tanned hides)
Cowhide is used as the standard for motorcycle jackets, cow tends to be softer and steer, considerably heavier and stiffer. It's personally my favorite type of leather from the country production, almost at CXL resistance.
Horsehide can sometimes be seen but the ones i have tried here are rather cheap and not as shiny. The best way to describe them would be pretty much similar to calfskin, around 2.5oz thick and soft, considerably more resistant than lambskin with a pretty tight grain.
Lambskin is not worth it here in Mexico in my opinion. The leather is so softly treated, so thin (2oz or less) and so spongy that you can tear it apart barehands. Unless you want a jacket that will be easily damaged or you treat them very carefully, i don't advice it at all. Bear in mind the lamb Schott uses is way better, veg tanned and thicker, firmer.
Goatskin i have seen used, and i would prefer it a thousand times above any lambskin. While being extremely thin, it holds a far tighter grain and a much denser, firmer structure than the lamb.
And finally, what i consider the best price - value leather in the mexican production: Calfskin. Calf, while being thin, less than 2.5oz (Pretty much at around the thickness of the Mission) is very tightly packed (Not as much as horsehide though) and very shiny overall, more than pretty much any other type of leather from the market. It can be almost as soft as lambskin but also as firm and stiff as horsehide far thicker. That last one doesn't break in as easily but it's a monster and will resist anything since the grain is so tight and strong.
Finally, there are a couple of options that i am interested in trying out, even though the cost of a jacket made out of them will jump up a lot with those materials: Veg tanned goatskin from Lefarc and some waxed cowhides from Lefarc as well that i guess would be pretty much an equivalent to CXL. That last one i wanna try out
I purchased a jacket lambskin from Argentina and was good quality, but soft leather, cow is twice durable, tanks for the info, love to get one CXHH, thanks for the info
I got a cowhide leather jacket for 14 years in Leon Mexico still going like new. The mistake I made was to tailor it here in the USA for a better looking a more slim siloete
I got a cowhide leather jacket 14 years ago in Leon Mexico still going like new. The mistake I made was to tailor it here in the USA for a more slim silhouette as Mexican design jackets tend to be bulky looking , I mentioned the mistake because now it's too small since I gained 10 pounds. I tend to go to Leon every 10 years to stack up on leather products but agree leather quality has been reduced even mixed with FAUX leather. It's still a great place for accessories like exotic skin wallets, belts , luggage/bags but not the leather shoes(!ugly looking) and men's jackets. As for women it's paradise since they mostly are fast fashion and even if leather is low quality still is better than faux leather from ZARA at half the price and for some reason the fit for women is much better looking. Men's shoes are ugly I don't understand if a foreigner company comes with their own design and just wants the manufacturing they come out good looking( Luchase boots, jay Butler and Thursday boots)but that same artisan can't copy it and sell it in boutique it
People need to understand that cowhide can be finished or unfinished and that will affect the qualities a ton
Disculpa, para ti dónde es mejor o dónde encuentras mejores productos de piel en México? En León o hay algunas otras partes o marcas en México que sean de calidad?
1st time here. Mr Schott came across authentic, knowledgeable and sincere. Right on.
Great video! You opened up a whole new conversation of animals (vs. tannages ) that needs to be addressed for leatherheads!
Great info, order a HH jacket from Argentina and I already have a lambskin jacket from Argentina as well.
I have a buffalo hide hacket
Buffalo is very durable, similar to horse
I just got a Cape buffalo Indy style jacket. Solid,heavy three season jacket. It is surprisingly supple because of tanning and tumble dry process. Its color and smoothness is luxurious.
@@farside51Where did you buy it?
Meravigliosi . Adoro l'abbigliamento in Vera pelle.. Sono capì dì abbigliamento intramontabile..ho uno capo dì abbigliamento stile indiano . VOGLIO MODIFICARLO È FARMI UN CAPPOTTO LUNGO.. MOLTO BELLO.. ADORO.!😊
I like that Mr. Schott guy "that was very impressive" with a slight smirk!!
13:24 horsehide vs cowhide side by side
Can anyone tell me what biker jacket that is in the thumbnail???
Schott Perfecto!
I have their 618, need to send it in to a tailor for some alterations but massive upgrade to my $250 jacket.
eXcloz does a proper fitted fashioned jacket too
I'm a schott jacket freak the only other leather jacket company I love too is eastman leather jackets, back in the 1960s I remember my grandpa used to wear my father's ww2 b3 jacket and other times he used to wear his ww1 jacket ( that jacket was not leather ) in the winter time it was very cold in south Texas I remember visiting my grandpa's family in a little town outside of del Rio Texas ( we used to live outside of Laredo) the older and more used those jackets were the better they looked.
Perfect timing for this video. About to buy my first jacket from them. I have not decided on which one yet.
Stridewise, you knocked it out the park with this one. Outstanding content.
Thank you for your great video!
Thanks Mr Pham, this took forever to make!
what is that tune that starts at 15:46 ive heard it before, i dont know the name of it
Jeopardy game show
Do a video on how to care for lambskin!
why does no one ever say 'please' they just bark orders for free content at me
@@Stridewise You definitely took this the wrong way…but I understand. You did a great job in this video and I saw an opportunity for a follow up video. It will probably be a highly viewed video due to the lack of information on how to care for lamb skin jackets.
Nick! Thursday has a new bomber jacket, now in a few colors (black, espresso suede, and a gray). Please check it out and do a review! 🙏🏻
Nice, informative video! Anything about rough-out?
Tougher than suede, just has hard to keep stains off it!
Cabby say enough about how great Schott is
I like a Leather that shines like the floor at MSG
Stride wise as usual .... decisive steps in a specified direction❤
Wow. Thanks!
VANSON, Competition weight leathers. I've had Schott, Hein Gerike, and many other
brands. Sold them all. Vanson leathers are the BEST out there!
Which Schott jacket model is Mr. Schott wearing in that video, I think he's referred to it as his "indoor jacket"?
Thank you. I really enjoyed watching that and learnt a lot about leather jackets. 👍
eXcloz is best at making leather jackets
Very well done. Could we please get a video on how to care for a leather jacket? I'm especially interested in lambskin as I have a Schott lambskin jacket (style P2531) and he said that you have to take particularly good care of it but did not elaborate further.
Leather conditioner. Every 6 months, o maybe a year
How about steerhide?
what about the difference between cow hide and steer hide?
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What is crazy is with the Horween "Heavy weight" jacket, roughly 50% of the weight is all the magical oils etc. they jam into the leather. While of course the quality of the leather is undoubtedly excellent, half of the perceived weight isn't even leather. And yes, in this case it is an indication of quality, Chromexcel isn't for everyone, and other coats of similar weight would likely be made up of more actual leather, material wise. If you don't know leather, it's almost impossible to "judge what even is quality. Go from, "This (insert leather item) is the straight Bee's knees!" to "I'm ashamed to wear this outdoors now." trying to guess.
I think Hide is where the skin is thick that it got skived down to make different kind of grades and desired thickness, while skin is where the entire animal skin is used because it is thin
Very informative. eXcloz is very good in making leather jackets. Plz make video on their products too.
Can leather jackets be altered? Problem is my body structure. I finding blazers and shirts are a nightmare for me. I have to get past my shoulders and arms and then get the waist tapered... I'm at the point where lifting is causing me to get custom tailored jackets.
They could be altered, problem is that you need sewing machine for leather and your local altercation place may not have it.
You should take a trip to Buenos Aires, Argentina, the leather capital of the world. Leather jackets and belts everywhere. Also incredibly cheap.
There are many cities/countries claiming to be "the leather capital of the world".
The leather capital of the whole world is León Guanajuato
How do they compare to Italian? Full grain, veg tan etc?
The leather capital of the world is in the human centipede!
@@heiner71 León Guanajuato México
So basically full grain/top grain cow hide is the best
Depends what you're after! Some guys prefer the heavier feel of horsehide but yeah there's a reason cow is the go to
@Stridewise yeah I need a rough tough minimal cafe racer style jacket which I've found online made from the highest quality heavy cow hide.
The 2 I found well priced was the Oxford route 73 2.0 leather jacket and the richa detroit leather jacket
Update: I bought the route 73 the torso front is good the back and arms look terrible, I'll probably settle for a regular leather jacket not a motorbike one. But durability is a concern for me
As soon as the guy mentioned people who eat horse, I immediately thought of Seinfeld when Kramer mentioned his friend Jay Riemenschneider.
I took notes
Love the vid, Stridewise. What jacket are you wearing? Looks dope
schott's cafe racer!
Can't believe when seeing my favorite jacket from SCHOTT coming up at the beginning of the video the P613S
PERFECTO® STEERHIDE MOTORCYCLE JACKET in Burgundy and being explained that it comen from a special tannery from Chicago and what kind of leather and rough it is in order to breaking en it. Thanks.for the video props for the TH-camr and keep on going with your work . Please do a video specially on the P613S is the best jacket.
dude i'm so glad this was meaningful to you, the relationship we have with our leather jackets is very special!
Good leva.
Hey Im just contemplating between sizes of the Schott Perfecto 618 and I would love to know what size and measurement, height the model used, is. If possible of courses.
For reference I'm 5,6 slim mascular build I like short jackets for riding my bike the the jacket doesn't bunch when sitting.
Chest 37 inches - not sure if a 36 is short enough in length for me and a 34 being too small
I’m the guy in the video wearing the perfectos I’m 5ft8 142lb in size 38
buffalo?
13:54 isn't that a 613SH?
Yes it is. They mislabeled. It’s got the stars on horse hide which is the 613sh not the 618hh.
How about bufflo? Hoe does that compare to cowhide and horseide?
The most rugged leather I seen. Good if you're heavy into workwear and the Americana look. Skip if going for a smooth & sexy appearance. Horsehide is equally as masculine but slique
Hello
He never mentioned anything about the Japanese sumitomo jacket.. made from silverback gorilla hide.. $10500 retail
Ombre Leather is a LEATHER JACKET IN A BOTTLE!
#JeopardyThemeMusic ... perfect editorial choice.
I was very pleased with myself
I still think leather jacket without shiny effect is not leather jacket 😤
it's settled. I'm getting horse hide because I dislike how "equestrians" constantly take huge horse craps dead smack in the middle of hiking trails.
get your revenge!
Leather jackets are a luxury item. A lot of people cannot afford such a luxury. For the most part, people buy whatever they see at the mall or in a department store. They aren't going to be getting a single piece of leather on the back, horsehide, shearling, etc. Most people will buy from Wilson's.
Super
Marlon Brando wore a Perfect? No, a Durable. James Dean wore a Perfecto? No, a Cal leathers, an Indian Ranger and a JC Penny brand Sportclad.
They never wore Schott. Study.
Buy your best leather when you are young. Don't get fat.
The jacket will look fantastic when you are in your 40s, 50s and 60s
A good leather will last a couple lifetimes. The lining may not...
I have a calfskin jacket. It's matte compared to goat but patinas better. Lambskin is girly. Refuse steerhide since it's a castrated cattle. Horsehide is hyper masculine but still elegant. Buffalo is TOO rugged. Good if you're deep into workwear Americana. Deer reminds me of goat but it's much rarer
Why the jeopardy theme overlay? If your dialogue wasn’t adding anything to the video just cut it out. Instead you made it worse 🤷♂️
the joke is that it was quiz time and i freakin nailed retaining the info
When lamb gets older it becomes cow? 😂
Nop, lamb is baby sheep
Calfskin is baby cow 👍🏼
Human leather
Lol Texas Chainsaw Massacre ! 😂
Look at the activities of Ed Gein
Kangaroo. Perforated. If it's good enough for motogp and ~300km/h then it's good.
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First!
HE DID IT 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉
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aw
Jason Schott's grandfather made jackets from the skin of black slaves.
do you have a source on that good buddy