GEARS 5 - Save Del vs Save JD Outcome & Endings (Gears of War 5 2019)
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Gears 5 2019 saving Del vs saving JD from Reyna choice cutscenes and differences, incluidng Marcus reaction & slightly different ending
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Let's see how many people Marcus lost. His mom and dad, Carlos and Dom, Ben and Anthony Carmine, Tai, and Anya. I wasn't going to have him lose his son too.
Can't do my main man Marcus like that. Del was cool in this game, but just a side character to me.
Seems like the reason the majority that save JD was to spare Marcus from anymore pain
@Aegis Wait pardon my ignorance but who's Carlos ?
@@juandirection3751 Dom's brother. He and Marcu were friends way back when they were kids, but he died during the Pendulum Wars
@@aegis2108 Damn that's harsh. It's weird I played all games up to 4 and don't recall him even being mentioned
Marcus had been through more than enough. I don't wanna see him end up like Dom, poor bastard.
I played through all the gears and then just finished 5, god these games are great. I started crying because I killed JD and I realized how much Marcus has been through from chapter 1 of gears 1 to having a son to losing him and the locust killing all his loved ones and now has to deal with swarms and everything he knew to disappear, sometimes I wish I didn’t play the game so I didn’t have to hang on to this burden but I’m so happy I’ve played it I will remember this as my favorite story game next to red dead and halo
Dom died because he showed emotion Marcus have to punch the tears in his eyes to stay alive
Darryl Draven just watched that video 😂
Darryl Draven
A man of culture I see.
Yea I couldn't let Marcus suffer anymore. I like del a lot but Marcus comes first
The way James tries to hold his tears infront of his dad but Marcus knows exactly how he feels so he lets him cry is just....wow
Yeah I think that Del for him was like a brother
Fahz' reaction to Del's death is what gets me, picture this : you finally start to get along with someone whom you've been butting heads with for years, and as soon as it gets better and start becoming somewhat friends and that friend dies. feels bad man
But it's kinda forced tho. When JD dies, he barely reacts, which is dumb since they've been friends for a while. I think it's just the coalition basically telling you which one is canon and which one isn't.
@@emiliomarbanjr
"Barely reacts"...
Fahz: **Literally spends longer reacting to JD's death than Del's**
Some dumbass: "Barely reacts."
@@eidolon1426 3 seconds longer, what a reaction
@@toedtick6178
I don't give a fuck *how much* longer, the point remains that this other guy is blatantly, categorically, *wrong.*
And on top of that, you dumbass, this guy is arguing that Fahz' reaction to *Del's* death is *"too* long comparatively," which means that HE views even *1* second as a significant difference. I don't know *how much* longer he *thought* Del's was, but considering it's *actually* 3 seconds *shorter,* he will only look dumber the longer we assume he thought it was...
Therefore, I'm just going to be good faith, and assume the *minimum* amount of stupid is involved here, and he only thought it was *1* second longer.
And he *still* made that comment. So he clearly thinks every second counts. Which means that you can't speak for him. (Not that you ever could anyway.)
You clearly don't have the required reading level to be involved here. You're comment is *COMPLETELY,* and woefully, irrelevant to the conversation. Get out.
forgot i made this comment wtf was i on?
You can really see the difference when JD dies, or Del dies. Marcus is so heartbroken, can’t even say a word after. But when Del dies, he’s trying his best to keep everyone up. So you really know JD is all that keeps Marcus going
Makes sense, J.D. is all he's got left outside of Cole, Bard and the gang. 😥
@@Jupiter.141 JD alive is canon.... you can tell without them confirming it, as the cutscenes after dels death have more dialogue and detail, whereas if you pick JD to die, the cutscenes seem a bit rushed and bare in comparison
@@alfiedarling6108 you got a point
I truly thought Marcus was gonna bring up Dom when he found out about Del.
The problem is Marcus should've reacted more to JD's death. It wasn't believable. Too short and quick.
Why wasn’t it a choice to save my boy jack?
@Mndface Best comment
I just finished the campaign playing as Jack. All 4 chapters coop. Died at the end, I felt sad as hell
hes a robot, baird will remake him. his robot memories are more than likely saved on a hard drive some where. he will be back.
I actually shed a few tears for him, wtf is wrong with me
What about Dave
I first saved Del cuz my thought was "well Del was with me the whole game, I can't just do my boy like that" then when it came time to tell marcus I remembered that I just killed his son. I immediately restarted, cuz I can't do my man Marcus like that. He's lost almost everything already.
I saved his son because he lost everyone so I just can’t make him loose his son too
@@justcontroll7610 yeah that's why I just couldn't kill his son. I had to take care of the real goat.
Me asfc 😭
@@Starzindaroof me too
me too 😭
The Canon ending is obviously saving JD and I'll tell you why.
JDs character arc is not done yet, Same with Marcus. Those 2 characters have butted heads throughout the past two games, and it's time to finish that story arc about improving their father son relationship, it's basic story writing. All Dels character plots have been neatly wrapped up in gears 5, Del dying sets up our main character of this game having lost someone close to her, and sets up JD to grow as a character and mirror the story of his father, Marcus.
Now if Del survives, allow me to say that the dialogue is very lazily written for this, much weaker than the other option, you think del would just walk away from Marcus when he's asks where his son is? And fahz has literally no reaction to JDs death, whilst on the opposite side, all of the dialogue for saving JD is so fleshed out. And as for the very final cutscenes, does no one else find it jarring to see Del, a character we only have barely known comfort Marcus at the end, its weird looking.
The hugging scene between Marcus and JD is so much more impactful than just straight up making Marcus upset again by killing his son, and reverting him back to the same character we have always known, but with Dels death its time for Marcus and his son to grow as characters together, and have their relationship be repaired, as father and son.
I agree with you. Plus I think that Del's death will be a major part of Gears 6. Maybe we will see Marcus and JD defeat the swarm once and for all to avenge Del or something. Maybe we'll play as Marcus or JD again because I didnt really like playing as Kait.
Swarmified Del Boss fight? :D
I would also add by del dying it adds something JD and Marcus could bond on since they both lost their best friends
lol jd is a terrible character so all of what you said can change super quickly.also the series has spent how much time since the beginning of game 4 even mentioning his relationship with his father? barely any.the story is about cait now.
That makes sense thank you
The way that Marcus looks at JD, like he's reliving losing Dom, and an aged father and his son comforting each other. I love Del, but his death brought his brother in arms closer to his father, who lost nearly everything.
Yes, exactly. The way they look at each other and seeing them hug, such a beautiful scene. If any death has to be canon, that'd be it. Also, like you I also like Del alot, but JD has so much more going on character wise, I really want to see how he develops further and his relationship with Kait, if it will grow into something more than friendship, + Marcus has been through enough.
Wait takaro is that a true ending or it just a rumor; because I want to know really badly and because I'm worried that JD will never show his face in gears of war 6, that will be missed up for real.
I MEAN IT??
@@takaro0 I'd be more comfortable with Marcus dying than JD. James is the last thing he has left in the world (I mean sure he's still got Cole and Baird and Sam, but still), and if he died, Marcus and Anya's legacy dies with him. Not like Marcus is likely to have another kid at that point.
Couldn't do that to the man
@@Jarsia Agreed. If Marcus dies in 6, I'm ok with it. As long as they handle his death with care and respect, which I have no doubts about.
@@takaro0 Yeah I mean at this point he's the angry old guy on the radio, his real story was done in GoW 3. Baird is really in his element now more than ever, and is arguably one of the most important humans alive(I mean his mechs took humanity from a collection of vagrants back to an organized society with an impressive economic and military force that's essentially expendable and easily replaced), and Cole, well, he hasn't changed at all.
Imagine if Marcus had spotted the beacon under the kraken, damaged but mostly intact, and slipped away while the others fought the thing to hotwire it back into working order. Then he grabs one of it's target designators and radios everyone to get to cover ASAP. At this point the kraken realizes whats going on and rears back to pounce on Marcus(think the end of the old "Mad World" trailer for GoW 1 with Marcus & the corpser), Fahz and Kait have to drag JD into cover, and Marcus, pointing the designator at the kraken's head goes out on 1 last bad ass line like "fry you ugly son of a bitch".
That's an ending that would suit Marcus, and one I could easily live with. Cole could have got more than that "i'm still alive, baby" wave and bro hug. He could have had a genuine moment of loss, kneeling at the edge of the wall, staring into the smouldering hole where Marcus used to be. No longer the predictably indomitable "Cole Train", but simply a man who just watched one of his best friends and someone he's been to hell and back with multiple times get incinerated.
i saved JD so i didn't had to tell Marcus his son was dead lol i actually tougth about that in the moment.
I had to go back and vhange it i couldn't live with Marcus losing everyone
Yeah cause his brother/best friend, dad, and wife is enough
Same here.
Man, I did exactly the same. Finished the campaign a few hours ago and wow.... Absolutely amazing.
Same
11:54 what I love about this part is that Marcus knew EXACTLY how James felt. Marcus knew his son felt the same way about losing Del, that he did about losing Dom.
I can tell whenever Marcus was looking at JD after finding out the news. JD’s face was so hurt and all Marcus saw was his little boy. It was so sweet seeing Marcus embrace him and give him some comfort.
I think they still need to do two choices for the next game because both suck in general I wanna see how marcus copes with the loss and how jd copes witg the loss of del both playthroughs could be. Interesting is they play it correctly
Marcus' reaction to his only son dying was so sad
Just Some Guy without a Mustache but so good, the emotion felt so real
@@Inkadu4You John DiMaggio is an amazing VA with a ton of range.
As to the "only son" bit, I have a feeling that that isn't the case. Jinn told us about the fertility program, and how Anya died from the second childbirth, right? My theory is that Jinn secretly had that child taken away & told Marcus that they'd died too. This way, she has a Fenix/Stroud child to fully support her regime one day.
I was tearing 😢😢😞😞
I couldn’t watch it.
Just Some Guy without a Mustache OMFG BRO AGAIN
When Kait tried to hand Marcus the tags and Marcus backed away not wanting to take them, that broke my heart.. Marcus lost everything
Not gonna lie this was one of the hardest choices I’ve ever had to make in a video game
I chose to save JD but I honestly stood up from my couch and went WHAT when I had to pick, took me ages To decide
Replayed it again and beat it this morning and fuck me I hadn’t seen Marcus’ reaction to JD dying until I checked this video, seeing Marcus upset legit breaks my heart man
Despite people being negative about Gears for some reason, I think the new cast is great and im so excited for Gears 6
Don’t know why I’m typing this essay I guess I’m just pumped!
Pretty much everyone chose to save JD, but that's not gonna be the canon ending more than likely
Gears 5 has an amazing campaign but online is terrible. Gears always have great campaigns tbh, my only criticism of the newer campaigns is that they haven't really developed any major swarm villains, except for Queen Reyna.
Marcus does not deserve to lose another person. JD better be the canon choice come Gears 6.
I chosed del Because he was on my side and cover me The whole campaign.
@@oasis67 that AND how much the new characters suck
The Coalition did a great job of making you care for both Del and JD, enough that it was a very difficult decision. In the end I went with JD, but felt terrible immediately after.
NY 7 this is better than last of us part 2
@@enoughmirror4949
Not sure why you would compare the two games. They are nothing alike. Both excellent in their own way.
@@SeanUCF the last of us 2 lives rent free in a lot of people's heads lmao.
However they did a horrible job at making gears games
Lol del is the most annoying character in gears I’m glad he’s dead
I saved JD. but the way Del get snapped make me feel like I just betrayed my close friend
same...but look at this way, Del did a lot in Gears 4 n 5...he fought hard and well...i feel JD needs to redeem himself though
We kinda did but we'll make sure it's not in vain.
I felt the same. Like, exactly.
@@IDyce88 Fought hard? He was eith the Kait the whole time.
@@wygnany2069 exactly, Del is the modern Baird...he's good with tech and he tries to keep JD out of trouble. Del is smart and a lot of the time both JD n Kait just ignore his advice...a lot like how people ignored Baird even though he obviously knew best. JD though...he fu$£ed up...the backstory of GOW 5 clearly showed that JD was responsible for some big mistakes and then he messed up again in GOW 5 resulting in the death of numerous people including a Carmine. you make it sound like teamwork is bad...it's not. Del was willing to trust Kait when no else would...JD though was being a paranoid asshole. i don't want JD or Del to die...but if one of them has to die...it should be Del...because Marcus has lost too many people already: he lost Carlos, he lost Dom, he lost his parents...he lost Anya...he can't lose JD too. and if anything Del dying will motivate JD to fight better and be a better soldier...that is just the way it is.
11:52 hit home hard. That’s the moment Marcus realized what happened with Del. He knows exactly what his son is going through. Honestly it made this scene so much more meaningful. Marcus knows what it’s like to lose someone like that.
Rip dom !
Angel Ramirez Yeah.
@@AngelRamirez-wr6de also Carlos
@@ibn8157NO. only dominic
That and he's a father who's alive and can be there for his son, unlike Adam.
I saved JD only to spare Marcus the pain of him losing somone else he loves. But damn I was hurt when Del got killed then started sobbing when Jack died.
I got so sad when jack died
11:41 Man, this right here made me wanna cry. Marcus knows what it means to lose those closest to him and I understand from JD that there isn’t anyone who he’d want to hear it from than his own father, especially when they both share the pain of losing Anya.
Just imagine this whole choice thing was a troll by the game dev by showing us KAIT throw the knife at Reyna instead in the next game
God let it be so.
Or they could do the recap of gears 5 in 6 like they did at the start. And in the recap you choose who to save during that recap to continue the story. Or it could bring them being assholes lol
Or they could do that but in an Act V within this game
There should have been a way to save both. I absolutely hated that part. The game didnt really do it for me.
I don't understand would a knife to the Queen's face not kill her?
Fahz took dels death harder , that’s interesting
That's because Fahz and Del were always butting heads and fighting. Now that Del dies, Fahz and him were becoming friends.
I love Fahz in the campaign.
Probably because they saved each others lives at certain points. You save someone's life they're not supposed to die.
Jake Sziminski you would think that there’s like a hidden one cheat death card in each game. Del and Fahz both used there’s in this game and wouldn’t except to face a death scene again until at least game. But hey that’s what the coalition wanted.
Hated Fahz at first, but he really grew on me after jd and him joined del and kait
I swear they better not make James the cannon death. FUCK! This game hit me in the feels when I saw Marcus like that.
Most likely gonna be like Wolfenstein where your choice in the previous game carries over. It's not that hard to make two timelines.
@@razorwireclouds5708that actually sounds like a decent idea considering they gave that choice at the end of the game of save who
@@razorwireclouds5708 And if they can't do that they could probably make you choose again
imagine it tho marcus, unhinged, nothing to live for, rage, sheer will, one purpose, There is nothing more dangerous than a man with nothing left to loose.
@Brief Keef no where is it stated that it is and more then likely is going to be a wolfienstein situation. nuff said.
I think JD living will make a stronger person and a reason to keep fighting like Marcus in Gears 3. He should kill the queen with the tags and say “That’s for Del”. Also Fahz and Del were problay gonna end up being best of buds like Barid and Cole
So you mean to tell me jack just dissapeared during that choke session
Woah
Jack.... Zap that bitch.
@@haydenrichards7530 fuck that. Freeze that Bitch
@@solsun7350 Go full Uno card and use that Mind Jack and break the game!
needed a piss
I loved del but i had to save JD. Marcus lost way too much in gears 3 i couldnt do that to him again :(
This is why I don't do campaign 😭
He also lost Carlos Santiago during the Pendulum Wars... Carlos was Dom and Marcus’s brothers. All the way.
I saved Del. Not because I don't like JD, even though I would've chosen Del anyway, being that Kait seemed to have a stronger relationship with him, but because I thought JD would stim his arm and punch the shit out of Reyna's tentacle and escape.
TatetheLocalBandNerd if only... 😥
@@tatesemmelink82 i saved del too but because jd was boring and lame af.
Everyone ever: Saves JD
The Coalition: *I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.*
@SistoBear it's does instead of the master losing his sword the sword loses his master
@SistoBear honestly very surprised to see everyone talking about how they chose JD. he's a war criminal, he killed protesters, he's buddy buddy with Fahz who made fun of Del being upset about protesters being killed.
a little bit of banter in act 3 isn't going to change that for me.
@@AnitaMeitner Your rationale for the choice you made is completely fair, choosing to save a war criminal over Del is outright wrong morally speaking. However try to understand that JD is/was more than just a war criminal to delta squad and the choice to save Del over JD would not have been as easy to Kait the character, as it was for you the player. To Kait and Del JD was a close friend. Why would both of them cry over his loss if they shared your moral inclination to let him die? I respect and understand your point of view though. I even completely agree with it and I definitely don't agree with fascist war criminals. I just simply prefer to not see Marcus lose the last of his family, over Kait keeping arguably the better friend. It definitely wasn't any banter from this or the last game that led me to choose JD over Del, it's my connection to his father and his struggle over the first 3 games and not wanting to cause him more pain. Long time fans of the series will probably have a similar perspective.
@@AnitaMeitner I mean this is gears of war where war crimes happen time to time that's nothing in the long run plus he deserves plot armor due to being Marcus son who more than anyone else in the series deserves to have a somewhat happy ending through his son.
Good. Del being saved is better writing.
A year after this game, and a year after watching this STILL makes me shed tears man. Like damn.... I don’t think anyone was ready for these outcomes
I saved Del on my first take, then when I had to break the news to Marcus I had to shut off my Xbox afterwards. I was that hurt.
I just finished it, I cried so hard.
Hawaiin Guy and I just finished it right now 😂 I saved Del cause he was loyal and supportive throughout the campaign , JD however , switched up . I feel bad but don’t regret my choice , Kait woulda probably picked Del anyways. And only 20 achievement score for experienced difficulty ? That sucked 😤
@@kalin1786 right? Gawwdayum was that emotional rollercoaster for me. I wish the achievement meant more too.
I had to choose between saving Del or Marcus. I just felt that Del shouldn’t die, and even though Marcus would be injured emotionally, he’d still be alive (which may be worse now that I think about it)
@@earthquakewilliam7380 dude had a family and lost it. That is immensely worse
Remember.
Marcus lost:
Carlos Santiago
His mother
His father
Dom
Anya
The man has nothing left but JD.
Altus is it weird that Marcus factored into my decision? I don't want him losing JD
i think the choice is not matter，another will die before gears6
Since when did anya die that is jd mother after all ahaha
Tai
Chad Mabe An easter egg in Gears 4 has JD visiting Anya’s grave.
I couldn't let JD die, I just couldn't. Marcus has lost way too much family and friends and losing his son as well would be too much..
What's great about when you save JD is that when he pulls away from marcus he knows that he's going through the pain of losing a brother so Marcus hugs him to kinda tell him it's okay I've been there too son and that's what makes that scene hit harder than usual
I teard up when I saw Marcus hug JD, I couldn't hold it.
same, it felt like such a genuine and real father/son moment...
Yeah I got a little choked up my self.
That part really hit home with me because my dad and me went through a rough patch until my fiance helped me reconnect with him a few years later. When Marcus pulled JD over and embraced him I didn't even try to hold the tears back lol mad props to whoever wrote that part.
Same bro
Carlos EOT I just did.
Props to the developers, for making Del actually likable and fun character. So the choice doesn't become so plainly "lol he dumb gonna kill"
i actually saved del bc he had been with me all game and i actually liked him a lot :$
Agreed there man I ended up loving Del in the end it's such a hard decision
Del is a boring and bland generic character. He's basically Jace 2.0. Still, neither Del nor JD should've died
@@GDCPhaNTaSiZe saved Del as well.. Marcus my man but the main character is Kait.. and Del been with Kait the whole game. i had to save Del
eliborio camacho But saying that, JD is a terrible character. The only thing we know about him is he’s Marcus’ son. if we wanna know more we have to read the comics or the wiki, and to that I say hell no, game is game
I literally teared after saving JD and the emotion the developers put into Marcus and JD's scene :'( but it was the choice that i am complete with, it considering Marcus' history and the alternative ending...
Del Death: Marcus and JD seem to have an intimate father/son moment that they had been lacking since the 4th game when JD thought Marcus had died, but overall a milestone in their relationship
JD Death: Marcus, in comparison with the loss of friends and comrades in the past, was somewhat lacking in the reaction department when it came to his SON. He screamed when he lost Dom, he just shut down for a moment when he lost his only son. Now, you could say that due to so much loss, he was somewhat unfazed by it or had prepared himself, but ask any father how it feels to lose his child.
But overall, I wish neither one had to die.
I would say his reaction isn't entirely out of place. You gotta remember, this guy has been to hell and back...how many times now? Lost how many people? He is one tough-ass motherfucker, right in the middle of a battle. His hard shell cracked for a moment, but then he realised he still has a lot of ass to kick, so he pent it all in until the battle was over.
There’s also a major difference in how and where they died. Dom dies right in front of Marcus, I’m sure he would have a similar reaction if he was there for his sons death
@goups3605 that and also the manner in how Dom died.
They were facing impossible odds and were likely to have been killed were it not for Dom's fast actions. Also, while JD's death is certainly heartbreaking, Marcus and Dom were virtually inseparable over the course of the original trilogy. JD had instead turned to a rather unstable lifestyle after first joining the COG against his father's wishes, then deserted and went Outsider and painted a target on his back. It's possible they hadn't spoken since the events of GOW 4 for a good few years and Marcus had spent a long time at his estate mourning the death of his wife.
That “look who’s saving who” shit really got to me
Same man I was in tears when I did both haha
Fr
I chose del
yeah I chose JD first for obvious reasons, and honestly Fahz reaction to not knowing Dels death hit me the hardest. Out of the whole thing I think that one hurt me more than anyone.
I swear, if JD isn't alive in 6 I'm gonna be pissed. I'm immensely hoping JD is alive.
Saving JD (Del's death) was confirmed to be the canon ending of Gears 5.
Reckless Redcoat anyway I can get a source or more info on this?
Antonio Briceno the community mostly chose to save JD so it’s more canon Del dies.
@@cruzthefyre6520 It was also stated in the collecters edition somewhere too. I think maybe the artbook but in all honesty the one that dies by Myrrah (Reyna's possessed body) becomes swarmified or something.
@@ryanhaysom163 But he is alive in mine. Paradox.
when JD and Marcus hugged, i felt that man and it hurts.
Fr man :'(
The way I saw Marcus saying "No." for the first time, I remembered the moment he lost Tai, Dom and his wife, especially when he moved back! I couldn't choose Del for this.
Del was like a brother to JD and when he died marcus knew how that felt considering his brother in arms dom was killed as well
@Dark little demon he also lost Tai and Carlos and the Carmine brothers his wife and dad. I think Izzy too.
Honestly people picked JD because of Marcus, dude lost a lot. On the other hand saving Del, the dude who has been to hell and back with you on this journey it was just tough to decide between the 2.
I chose to save del because of that, but honestly I regret it. I really liked Del but I think the best choice was JD regardless.
All I'm going to say is if Marcus wasn't JDs dad... JD would have been the one in the ground in my campaign, he got real lucky
@@TheChriscalibur facts
Can’t downplay what JD has done/would’ve done had he not forcibly been removed from Delta. He almost died when he had Baird hone in on his armor with the initial Hammer strikes. He’s a soldier too. Del just got to be there 🤷♂️
JD sat on his ass through most of the game. BUT YA LETS KILL THE BLACK CHARACTER for "story purposes"
I chose to save Del my first playthrough cuz he had been the ultimate wingman for Kait, then immediately felt guilty for what I was doing to Marcus. Gonna have to do another one where I save JD and see which one I take into Gears 6.
Dude idk why but it’s so sad how Fahz shows up like hey del looks who’s saving who again then he finds out that del died idk just really sad because of the thing they had going on who’s saving who
Fr It was sad
Del dosn’t even go “Woo”
Why r u gay?
“I was at home gonna eat a barrel of a boltok” dad this ones about kait.”boom” “DAD!”
That's the Cole Train's job, baby! Woooo!
@Jarred Jay sometime changes are things we just have to accept as much as I miss the old crew
Or has flashbacks to when he was in the NFL
Del is a better death in my opinion because it helps JD grow similar to Dom in gears
I think JD's death was better, not that I like the more sad ending but it was a bigger impact seeing Marcus lose the last of his family
@@cazed1 I agree, JD's death plunges the whole series into the abyss
One Eyed Monky yeah but he’ll have no will to live just like dom after losing all of his family and majority of old friends (Anya, JD, Father, Dom, A&B Carmine, Tai, and Kim). Dom had to let that all sink in and in many battle he accepted death at times. Marcus even knew that, so seeing Marcus like that would mean him disappearing in the 6th game. There’s so much story to tell and the war doesn’t seem close to end.
Alex B That and I think it helps JD find his way after losing himself for most of Gears 5
My problem with save JD Marcus will go out like Dom did I am not looking forward if he died in the next game that's why you have a del as a option but in reality both have only friends one has a father while the other is a orphan
"SO LETS MAKE A MORAL CHOICE IN OUR GAME"
"ok whats it going to be"
"YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN A SIDE CHARACTER AND MARCUS PHOENIX'S SON"
So you basically want to kill off a side character
...
YES
The choice was sad the part with jack was like watching the iron giant just pure sad like when Dom died your blood boils in rage
I’m playing now and decided to Save Del for being out travel companion. Then felt regret after Marcus reaction. Having lost everyone else in his life! That was a hard decision! 😭
_"You should've gone for the head." - Thanos_
Actually,it she would threw the knife to her head,the only result would be the death of all 3,cuz the Swarm's Queen can't die with only a knife on the head.
@@jjbastoneocean1703 maybe in the stomach like gears 3
But wish Thanos used the reality stone to fool us😟😟😟😞😢
@@ghazim.57 Lmao right I was gonna say that?. Like.. I've SEEN her die.. by a knife to the gut.. pretty sure one to the FACE would at least shock her enough to lose the grip she had.
@@hypeman1825 They are not the same.
The pain in his voice when he said “no” I felt that
Even though Del doesn't go WOOO! and has the same charisma as Cole he's still a pretty lovable character I hated the fact that I had to save JD over him because I didn't want either to die. It felt like either deaths were in vain or to early
"I mean, for god's sake your black guy doesn't even go 'WOOOO!'"
Marcus lost:
Anya
Carlos Santiago
Dominic Santiago
Adam Fénix
His mother
Ben Carmine
Anthony Carmine
Kim ( The Bald Guy in Gears 1)
Tai Kaliso
My man Marcus can’t lose his own son.
JD is the only thing he’s got left.
I saved JD because Marcus lost Dom and Anya
Not to mention JD's story is far from over.
@JUGGERNUGGS Damn bruh don't remind me lol I just really like JD. He was my favorite thing about 4 besides horde and even though gears 5 was mostly about Kate and the locust his whole arc in the game almost stole it for me.
Same here I couldn’t let Marcus lose another one
@Jamack Black No that's not why I saved him, save the assumptions.
same.
Has anyone noticed reyna is queen in Spanish so wouldn't her name be "Queen Queen"
I played the game in spanish and her name was Reina Reyna.
@@johanhernandez4870 oh ok
FBI:Dont F*cking move
@@Funny00- I don't get it
Technically no since 'Queen' in spanish is 'Reina' with an 'I'
I have never felt so much emotion while playing a videogame. This series manages to hit me right where it hurts… how dare they force me to make such a tough decision.
The reason why I don't think suicide and depression won't bring marcus down?
*Well*
"Now go, and live, for me"
- Adam fenix, to marcus fenix
yep
I was originally gonna save del cause I knew there was gonna be a choice cause a friend told me, and del had stuck by you, but then Marcus ordered you and the squad to move on while he held the beacon, so when jd said “see you soon” I couldn’t choose del over jd couldn’t think about telling Marcus he lost everyone
you killed del because he was black. admit it. Del helped you save the world
InSaNeRuSsELL59 So did JD?
When Marcus said “count on it, James”
InSaNeRuSsELL59 JD was also black
InSaNeRuSsELL59 he saves JD cause he’s marcus fenix son lmao, don’t bring stupid race themes
JDs reaction to Del dying was better than Dels reaction to JD dying so I feel like saving jd was better tbh
Yes JD's reaction was outstanding but it seemed like no one else other than JD has been caring about Del. But when JD died everyone was like `where is JD?`
@@garenyo facts, that's why I picked del to live.
@@aaronconway117 BASED
I saved del but oh man did I make a terrible choice😔😪. I think saving del is more sad. Not only because of Marcus having to know his son is gone but because after what all happened with del and JD's and kaits relationship before hand. With JD trying to redeem himself and kait and del being so angry with him. Made it more sad than saving JD. Just knowing that they know he tried redeeming himself and that they were still angry with him.
I also wonder what the coalition is gonna do in gears of war 6. Like at the beginning of the game are they gonna give us a choice. On who stays dead and who is alive or?...
After watching this numerous times, I really feel Del's death felt the most impactful to the team. Sure, they all reacted sad when JD died, but actually look at everyone else. For JD, mostly Marcus and Kait are a bit torn up about his death. But for Del's death, JD, Kait and Fahz were all affected.
Yeah but it doesn't matter. JD is marcus' son, and with everything Marcus has been through, to have his son die as well is just ridiculous.
Purely a result of poor writing, it’s a tell that JD being saved is likely the canon ending
Im like in the .000001% of ppl that saved Del
I'm with you. He was just funnier and a genius
I did, for the sole reason that he was a loyal and supportive teammate throughout the entire campaign.
Not gonna lie though, I regretted it when I realized I would have to tell Marcus.
I saved Del, but we shouldn't of had to make a choice, they better make this choice non cannon cause Del, JD & Kait better be in Gears 6 cause you don't kill off a main character in the second game, that's story telling 101
Thought it was a good choice. Then I realized that I had to break the news to Marcus that he lost the last of his family. What are these tears??
Yea i aint gon lie i love marcus as much as everyone else if not more but man fuck jd.
Man, I've loved gears since the first game came out and this campaign is just amazing. Not even remotely ashamed to admit the emotion I felt at the end and letting it all out. What an amazing job they did with this campaign.
I saved JD. Marcus doesn't deserve more loss.
Thanks for the video 😁 Awesome stuff.
Dude i played dom in all 3 games coop with my housemate. I bawled my eyes out in 3. You know its a good game if it can make you FEEL something, like really feel. Aint no shame in emotion.
Man This Part Hits Home Because I Lost My Best Friend In Battle. Grew Up Together, Did Everything Together Literally Inseparable And People Thought We We're Real Brother's. My Dad Who Had Also Served With His Best Friend Knew When I Came Home And He Asked "Where's Joey?" And I Turned Away And Started Crying Once He Hugged Me. Seeing This Happened To Marcus And Dom In The 3rd Game. Then JD And Del. Broke My Heart And My Dad Just Knew How Heartbroken I Was. Still To This Day I Carry A Piece Of Him With Me So He'll Always Be My Brother Not By Blood But By Bond.
I just finally beat the campaign tonight and maaannn.. 😥 this hit right in the feels. Reminded me of when me and my boys were playing the campaign when Dom sacrificed himself for the squad.. Amazing story telling. Amazing music. Amazing graphics.
Completely agree with you. Just finished the campaign and came here right after.
@Victor Silva alright brother! Glad I wasn't the only one who needed to go look it up on TH-cam after beating it just to relive it again and see what other people thought. Hoping for a killer follow up
@@DjTomcat14 Seriously bro I didn't expect this to happen... Del or JD man, it's so cursed.
The part where kait spills the news broke my soul. Especially when he backed up while kait advanced toward him
It felt like del’s death had a greater impact on the team as a whole while jd’s death just impacted Marcus the most. Just a thought.
Yes Man I feel the same way
IDK how people chose to kill the guy saving the world, not the one sitting on his ass throughout... i guess black is easier for people to pull the trigger on.
InSaNeRuSsELL59- oh shut the hell up, keep that kind of shit to yourself.
And for the game to see Marcus suffer that pain brought me Gears 3 feelings. Sad but great ending.
The Mythical Nut someone got mad lmao
The way JD holds Dells tags made me cry
Saving JD feels and is the best option because it lets Marcus sympathies with JD since they both lost a friend of theirs
Rip Dom.
"Should have gone for the head". Having to choose between either could have been done better. Like, her head was right there...why was the obvious choice not a legit option?
Sigh.....ok, time to go cry in a corner.
i think that kait didn't really choose but missed the shot
TheEcho112 This wasn’t done very well. Should’ve had the two placed in situations where dealing with the enemy wasn’t an easily solved problem
dude if thats happend the game's over in that scene that was a clever choise by coalition in my opinion...
@@joshuacarpenter7447 agreed
@@sadrazq3333 that's true, I just felt that making us choose could have been done better (like without an obvious third option)
One of the choices should’ve been Fahz 😂😭
Just throw the knife off screen to kill Fahz? That's absolutely hilarious.
Kait's Mom: Oh.. well.. uh. -lets go of all of them- Well. thats your choice I guess. See ya,.
I wanted the option to throw it in Reyna's face.
I would pick Fahz over JD and Del.
Nah, I wish it was Kait. Would've been better in my opinion.
The way Marcus steps back from JD's tags as if not touching them makes it not real was so heart-wrenching
That look in marcus eyes when he remembered when he lost his best friend to
I almost saved Del, but than I thought _"I can't do that to Marcus",_ and damn that cut-scene with him was sad! On the other side if you save JD... his voice actor and and the animators did an amazing job, let me just say that!
they need to make a third option. this reminds me of Fallout 3 original ending does anyone remember that?
Difference is Fallout 3's original ending was supposed to be "the ending", not "Set up for final part of a trilogy". And good god, if they MAKE people pay for a good ending? Fuck that, hope Epic goes under if they try pulling that shit. If being the key word.
Here’s how I saw it del and kait grew closer and she could depend on him so I was looking at things through kaits perspective that’s why I choose to save del
Thats why I chose Del as well.
Me three!
I have to respectfully disagree with that cast for me it seemed like they they ruined JD's character just for the sake of plot and I personally think they were better as a trio then a duo with just Kate and Dell I don't think either one of them had to die but I chose JD because in my personal opinion and from my headcanon Marcus is already lost enough you don't need to lose a son
I chose del as well tho I do admit it feels like they made out jd to be of a bit of dickhead just to make this Choice a little easier. I mean jd gets barely any focus in this and everyone makes up with him in the end anyway so the whole jd a dickhead thing was ultimately pointless. If they didn’t do that and the gang was getting on as normal through all the story then I think the choice would have been much harder. Not to say the choice wasn’t hard but I think it safe to say everyone saved jd cuz of Marcus when it shouldn’t just be because of that it should be who was the better friend so I had to go del.
I love how marcus and jd now have a scar basically in the same place
When the moment happend JD was immediately the one i picked and in my opinion saving JD is more appropriate to the story
he is a Fenix. His story shouldn't end here. But neither should've Del's.
I guess I’m gonna be that person...
I hate how everyone is simply stating “Why can’t Kait just aim for Reyna’s Head?” without thinking about the situation first.
Several factors go into the scene between Kait and Reyna, both in game and irl. Imma list them both separately so yall can just have a comment war over it. Don’t @ me because I’m explaining myself once and only once. BE WARNED. SPOILERS AHEAD. AGAIN, WARNING. SPOILERS AHEAD:
In game:
1. With everything that Kait, Del and JD have been through up to this point, it would only make sense that Kait would have a strong attachment to both Del and JD.
2. (Queen) Reyna; and indirectly, Myrrah; has been in Kait’s head ever since the nightmares began haunting her. You all know this after Kait and Del’s battle with the Matriarch. After Niles’ AI connected Kait to the Matriarch and subsequently the Hivemind, whatever knowledge and experiences Kait possessed was added to the Hivemind’s knowledge. The connection between Kait, the Matriarch, the Hivemind and Queen Reyna would explain why Reyna made Kait choose between her two best friends or her own life. Reyna KNEW Kait cared for both and so forced her to make a choice.
3-1. What made Kait’s choice difficult for the player was the development between the trio as well as their interactions with Old Sarge Fenix from Gears 4 up to this point. Those who have read the comics and or played the games know for a fact that Marcus has lost nearly everyone he’s cared for up until Gears 4. His brothers, his comrades in arms, his parents, and his wife. His reason for living is his one and only son, James Dominic Fenix. Marcus and James are the only surviving members of the Fenix bloodline and JD is the only surviving Stroud Descendant, as Anya and her parents are both deceased by this time.
3-2. JD and Del are often compared as parallels to Marcus and Dominic from the first three GoW games. They grew up together, joined (and later left) the COG together and fought through near death situations together. Kait’s inclusion into the duo’s adventure deepened their bonds during Gears 4. Between 4 and 5, the three of them along with Marcus were grouped together as the new Delta Squad with Cole as seen earlier in the game.
4. Players who have progressed through Gears 1-4 know the story of Marcus as well as JD’s relationship with Marcus being a very shaky one. The familial love is there, it’s just that JD’s lineage and Marcus’ history has placed a lot of pressure on JD’s shoulders as the son of the Legendary Gear, Sergeant Fenix, hence the actions JD took at Settlement 2 (both the massacre of Settlement 2’s residents by DeeBees and Lizzie’s Death)
5. But as you progress through Gears 5, you slowly begin to see more of Del’s character being developed and flushed out to the point where you (the player) see Del as a brother in arms, much like players did Dom in Gears 1-3. Now, Kait and the players have developed a strong bond towards Marcus, JD and Del that seems increasingly indestructible as the game goes on. This also happens with Jack Mk. III (what I call Gears 5’s Jack bot).
6. By the time Queen Reyna arrives to choke the trio, you’ve reconciled with JD and Fahz, you’ve all banded together to put behind your pasts and fight the oncoming Swarm and Locust threat to New Ephyra. With the Hammer back online and friends new and old together, you arm yourself and fight tooth and nail to push back the Swarm. Your relationship with Kait, Del, JD, and even Fahz has become quite close to, if not the same as, your bonds with the Delta Squad of old. Losing any one of your members to the Swarm is something that you could not possibly want to bear or be able to handle.
7. For those saying Del doesn’t do sh*t, I’m talking strictly from a story standpoint, NOT gameplay. Yes, I know, Del and Jack’s AI can be a little stupid at times when playing solo but I’m talking strict story here.
8-1. Finally, the choice itself. Everyone makes statements about the “obvious choices” being to “throw the knife at Reyna” or “Save JD because Marcus has lost enough people!” I get how you all feel, but at the same time stop and think about it. Reyna could easily snap any one of their necks or all three if Kait chose to attack HER OWN MOTHER (even if she’s corrupted, Kait still feels for Reyna as she did in Gears 5, hence her hesitation in attacking).
8-2. By this time, Del and JD have become Kait’s closest allies next to Marcus within the COG army and losing either of them is something Kait wants to avoid if she can help it. Some players even express their grievances at Del’s Death when you choose to Save JD.
9. All in all, no matter who is chosen as the canon death, MARCUS STILL LOSES. THINK ABOUT IT. Del was like a second son to Marcus because JD and Del did EVERYTHING together. Marcus saw himself and Dom in JD and Del’s friendship. If you choose to save JD, Marcus still grieves with his son at Del’s death because he knows what it’s like to lose a brother. He basically relives the moments where he lost Carlos and Dom through JD’s reaction to Del.
In Real Life:
1. You kill Reyna, you kill the Gears series as a whole. Gears 4 was the start of a NEW SAGA in the Gears Franchise. Killing the Queen of the main antagonists in this new saga will end it pretty damn quickly.
2. Having Kait as a queen wouldn’t work because as you see throughout Gears 5, she is FIGHTING THE HIVEMIND. RESISTING ITS TEMPTATIONS. SHE DOES NOT WANT TO BRING HARM TO HER FRIENDS. Kait realizes her position, hence her decision to go AWOL. She leaves the COG in search of answers to protect her friends and, indirectly, the Outsiders she helped to save and enlist in the COG army.
3. It would be kinda nice to see an alternate universe where Kait *does* become Queen, but from what the games have made her character into thus far, I doubt that’s going to become a reality. No concrete proof, just a hunch. I admitted it, so don’t attack me on that.
4. From a story development standpoint, either death can make sense because if you choose to save JD, the game dives into a developmental arc between Marcus and James. If you choose to save Del, Marcus will finally snap as a man with nothing left to lose and players will have a chance to dive into Del’s backstory. I’m really curious regarding which storyline the Coalition decides to make canon, but I’m just pulling educated guesses out of my behind at this point.
Whomever you decide to save at this point in the game, know that you are free to choose who to save. But before you all complain about killing Reyna, think carefully about the story and the Gears Franchise’s survival before you start sending flak at me or the Coalition.
Thanks for reading my comment (if you actually made it this far) and I tried my best to keep it clean so please do the same when you spark a comment war in the replies below! Have a nice day!
A very nice, concrete explanation, my friend.
Regarding of which death and ending is canon, The Coalition could probably just make it a requeriment at the start of the campaign of Gears of War 6 to ask us if we chose to let live either JD or Del. If that is how they wanna proceed, then the writers are gonna have their work cut out for them.
@@nicholaschavez5006 two different story arcs, similar to ME but with a lot less leg room to work with.
I chose to save del because he had kaits back throughout 5 and I was playing through the story couch co op with my friend and couldn't bring myself to let him die but that decision made me feel so bad for JD and Marcus. I'm curious to how they're going to go forward with the story whenever 6 is released
Either both ends got me crying. Masterpiece
There’s gonna be a JD / Del timeline in Gears 6 I’m calling it
Nah they're probably gonna check which person was saved the most and go without the one with the most deaths in gow6
Mediocre Morgus I hope not or this won’t be a gears game in my opinion
@@EmptyThoUGhtz they could do the same thing that Wolfenstein did where the sequel lets you chose the timeline for the person you saved/let die.
Tru I'm pretty sure Baird, Marcus, and the Minister are going to die
Dude I saved del he was such a cool character and honestly I thought JD would have plot armor. Bro I was literally screaming wtf when Reyna snapped his neck. I literally couldn’t believe it. The coalition really went balls out on this option honestly if there wasn’t a time limit for the option I would’ve been there for like 20 minutes contemplating which one to save
I did the same thing too, I was all like "She isn't going to do it, he's freakin JD Fenix! Maybe she will throw him into a building or kidnap him" *neck breaks* "....get the f*** out..." then knowing I had to break the news to Marcus...dude that was the first time a game gave me cold legs. If I had to do it again I'd still pick Del.
Lancaster Spades I thought she will just kidnap him and maybe we will have to go get him back later. NOT ACTUALLY KILL HIM.
@@shiftyguggs2415 I KNOW RIGHT!?! I was down for a rescue mission they didn't have to go snapping the guys neck!
Saving jd is the actual ending imo, I do prefer jd over del personally but I think the difference in reactions and how things play out seemed like they put more work into del's death. Leading me to believe that jd being alive is cannon
I personally saved JD in part because of Marcus I didn't want him to go through loosing his son, and make all the sacrifices to make sure he lived thus far worthless, specially Anya's sacrifice to give JD life, to me the most narrative impact is created from Del's deaths as he was the glue of the group he was really important and loosing him will expose the characters to what he protected them from, the internal friction, the fact that they can't just laugh it off with one of his jokes.
In the end Del's death has a larger impact than JD's death in my opinion, simply because he was that important to everyone, I think that in it part also works towards the redemption of JD's character since he now has to face up to reality and become better loosing his best friend is a really good emoptional trigger to bring him honest redemption, because now he can't just die and that is it, he has to live for the sake of those who aren't there anymore, be it Lizzie, Del or the countless people who died because of his actions and this war, for him to die it would undermine his faults and guilt becuase when you die that is it, all the bad things you have done no longer really matter, because there is no one left to do something to rectify those wrongs, I think that Del's deaths also hits harder because of how he had done nothing wrong, it is one thing to see someone who has wronged others die, but to have someone who is honestly good die hits harder, and it leaves those who have done something wrong but are not bad people to struggle with their actions and that is honestly far more interesting in terms of a narrative.
I chose JD because, plot wise, it makes more sense for Del to die.
Ya makes more sense killing a black character... sure
RIP Marcus gears 6 get it over people you picked JD to live well better start crying for Marcus because we don’t know his fate yet you can see he finally bonded with his son after del died but you can see that he wants to be close to his father and that’s gonna be emotionally when Marcus dies 😩😭 coalition is playing with our emotions your choice effects the whole choice of the game are you prepared for Marcus to die for his son while his so knees down on the floor in emotional pain from losing father after starting to bond and watch over each others backs gears 6 is gonna pull a lot of nerves to break OG fans away from the old gears
@@InSaNeRuSsELL59 Ah, someone's always gonna whip out the race card. Del was a boring and bland generic character, whereas JD had some good character development, and he's the son of the main guy in the franchise. Only a fool would make this a race issue
@@InSaNeRuSsELL59 dude you are just going from comment to comment pulling the race card
Saving del made more since in regards to what kait would actually do in that situation, del was their from the jump and Kaits best friend , I love Marcus and JD but I don’t think Kait would have saved him ,
Makes you wonder what they have planned for Gears 6 👀👀
I think she would've saved JD based on who was the more experienced like yeah del been there for the whole story but JD met kait first technically from 4
I wanted to save JD but I saved Del because he was more honest.
Yeah, I was sorta thinking the same thing. I saved JD because my own loyalty is to the original games, and I couldn't let Marcus lose another person.
But the game without a doubt sets you up to save Del. I can't exactly say for sure the human psychology, but it felt like the game was setting it up for JD to die.
Agreed thats why i saved Del. JD as being a basterd at the start and Del was there for you all game
marcus looked JD in his eyes he seen the same pain he felt when he lost dom.
JD dying cannot be the cannon ending. It just can't be.
That moment when the game made you pick
😮😓😩😫😧😦😟
Man, I cried like a baby when Del died. It's amazing how good these characters are written that you get so close with them. GoW5 was the first GoW game I played and I was amazed how great this series is. I wish I had a chance to play the first three but I have no xbox sadly.
PC gaming my friend
The first one is on pc actually.
Both the original and remastered (under the name of gears of war ultimate edition) are released on pc. It's hard to get your hands on an original gears of war copy but the remastered version is sold in microsoft store and it goes on sale very often.
@@alishariaty4418 Yeah, already played it and loved it :) Though it made me even more sad that the other two aren't released on PC :(
I have played 1-3(my favorite being 2), judgment (which in my opinion is underrated but I see why people disliked it) and 4, but I have not played 5.
The way Marcus and JD embraced legit made tears stream down my face.
I've seen this video before I just never made a comment and I'm just going to say just rewatched it right now I just bawled my eyes out
Very interesting. I wonder if there is a hidden poll that the Coalition is keeping to see who was saved more? How will this decision tie into the storyline of Gears 6? Only time will tell.
i was thinking the exact same thing
Dudeee same, just like they did with Carmine for gears 3
@@fzhs7030 that wasn't a hidden poll tho, they literally gave us that choice before the game was complete lol
I think they even made shirts for it
I've dealt with someone comnitting suicide and man, the fact that Marcus has dealt with all this shit without killing himself just shows how strong he is mentally
Marcus’s despondent tone from JD’s death in his voice really hits hard... I’ve seen the gameplay and it broken me when coming to this decision. Never thought a game would make you emotionally feel what war does. Even as early as GOW 2, it can be emotionally painful.
Literally one of the hardest choices to make in a game...
I didn’t hesitate to save JD just cause he’s my new favorite character in the new trilogy Lmao but losing Del hurt nonetheless :’(
Exactly how I feel but it was hard to choose but then I thought of Marcus so I chose JD
Keep the 5 month chain going bois
@@t3mperz864 yessir
God the feels in this story
OMG, I just got passed this part, and this game from start to finish is insane and fantastic. They outdid themselves, especially on the X1X, but I love Marcus so I saved his son. This game like my favorite Gears.
Honestly either choice is hard, Marcus losing his son, one of the few people left he truly cares for or having his son go through the same pain of losing his closest friend and becoming more like Marcus. Either way a very poetic choice in a game.