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- Well, I'm back to testing out the autofocus of the X-H2 and X-T5. What I found for continuous autofocus using wide/tracking and face/eye auto doesn't speak well for Fuji's newest autofocus system.
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Your video completely reflects my experience with the X-T5 with the latest firmware on the 33mm f1.4, 90mm f2 and 70-300mm. Tried all the different focus modes and custom AF settings. Thanks for doing the video!
a lot of AF problems with XT5 : Fuji cameras never again;
don't waste your money
Thank you for this. We need more people like you who are not paid Fuji (or other gadgets) influencers. This is what a real review is. Super helpful and honest. Wish I could thumbs you up 100x
Thank you, Derrick! You rock!
I unsubscribed from yt reviewers who are sponsored by Fuji.
@@JerredZ 8 months owner of X-H2 here, same Autofocusing issues on my side as well, even after the most resent firmware update. If it is something moving, 65% if not all 75% of photos are all either out of focus or object parts are badly blurred. Disappointed to the point of returning the camera and add more just for Sony, although it is way way more expensive where I live. Before X-H2 I was having X-E1 (yeah, very old one) and even then I had exactly the same issues with regular focusing functionality, where camera would say an object is in the focus, but in fact it was not. So I have huge flashbacks while using X-H2
totally aggree!
Most frustrating to have camera draw a box around face and have it say “face detected” but it’s out of focus! XH2S
I have XH2 and I am not satisfied with AF at all.
Thanks for reporting this and being honest with your results.
As a matter of fact DP Review just did a segment on Fuji also reporting false focus positives.
It is a shame, because otherwise Fuji cameras are just great.
Thanks, Didier. I haven’t seen their report yet, so I’ll have to check it out. But yes - the cameras are amazing, and even then, most of the time the autofocus is FINE - it’s just the continuous subject tracking that is the problem. I guess that’s kind of a big deal though, right?
@@JerredZ one of the big sellers of modern cameras is the continuous autofocus now enhanced by AI, it’s a significant reason I purchased the x-t-5 on the claim the AF was significantly better than even the last Gen X-t4.
We appreciate your honest feedback. There is no sense of sugar coating it because nothing will get done if that is all that fuji hears. I had better expectations too for the new fuji's. We have been shooting with them long enough to know what setting to use and I am in the same boat as you on this. Ill be completely honest my original Nikon Z6 has better eye autofocus. It does not hunt and jump around, and when shooting a group it stays on one person and lets you use the joystick to toggle between subjects. It just does not focus as good in low light. I was shooting Canadian geese this afternoon with the xh-2 and 100-400 and with the bird subject detection on. In camera it was telling me it was tracking but when I looked at the shots the hit rate was about 50-60 percent. I honestly had better hit rate with my xt-2 using a large zone box. There is a lot of things I like about fuji but for the price, and going into 2023 🤦
Paul! Thank you as always, friend! You rock. And yes… I was almost going to do a whole video about this focus when groups of people are in the frame… but I’ve decided against it. I’m pretty sure this is my last video on the subject - I need to move on and remember why I love photography. I can go back and “make it work” and hope to see improvements for the autofocus in the future, right? Fuji still has some magic… but man… this was a blow for me. I work at a camera store (did I tell you that?) - and there is always a “but” with Fuji. “They have great cameras… they look cool… they take great pictures… BUT… you’ll get better autofocus from the other cameras.” That hurts!
I had the Nikon Z6 and Z7 II and the Nikon eye autofocus is much better then Fujifilm cameras (same observation as you). If Fujifilm can fix this one plague that continues to hold them back, then I would without hesitation state they make the best cameras on the market. Until then, the retro looks and film simulations are the only reason I still like Fujifilm cameras.
The important thing is that finally people are talking about it as well as our YT influencers. This issue of auto focusing has been around since the X-T1 and X100V. So talking about it more from others is important and maybe fuji will place some more R&D on it.
The Z6 autofouc was shocking. Took it for a demo and returned it the same day. It was set up by a "Nikon expert" for me. When I returned and told him that I felt it was a bit laggy, he shrugged his shoulders and said "we are working on it".
I mainly use focus peaking, but the XT-5 has a bug here too (focus peaking is not temporarily disabled by a half shutter press for re-composition, unlike all other Fuji cameras). FUJI, when will you be releasing a firmware upgrade to fix these serious issues??? Your fast rise to fame is under the spotlight. Nice honest review btw.
I just switched from Sony to Fuji, downgrading from the A7IV to the X-T5 to go lighter and smaller. I've been in the Sony eco system since 2016. I was playing with the camera yesterday just sitting on the couch testing the AF on my wife about 5 feet away from me and I was stunned how often AF was picking up the lamp a few feet away from her. I guess I was super spoiled with Sony which was usually really good at figuring out it was her and not the lamp I was aiming at. (Yes eye AF was turned on) I have as of yet to take the camera out to do some serious shooting (It's just a hobby for me) but this one experience has me worried. I had heard Fuji was behind in AF but I wasn't exactly expecting this with the new AF....hopefully it's something they can tweak with a firmware update.
Good luck I do the same thing I returned all the Fuji crap and take my a7iv and my a7iv is not much bigger and all my lens are smaller and lighter on my Sony i use zeiss 55 and it's smaller and lighter than the xf 33 1.4 I use 85 Sony and same thing for the 56 1.2
Thanks for this, Vern. You know, I agree with you about being “spoiled” with Sony. I almost didn’t make the video because I kept asking myself: am I asking too much? However, I don’t think I am. My son wasn’t moving very fast… he was the only “face” in the scene… and I just think more should have been in focus! HOWEVER - that being said, Vern - most of the time the focus is decent and better than before. It’s really just the eye-tracking that has me so confounded because I use it all the time on the Canon and Sony systems.
@@denis5850 I like zooms and I was sick of the weight of the heavy Sony zooms. But, I'll admit I'm second guessing myself. If Sony had a newer APS-C option I would of stuck with Sony.... I still wanted smaller and lighter but I'm willing to give Fuji a chance.
@@JerredZ Right! I suspect firmware can fix this but the question is how long will it take to fix? That's the big question...
I am thinking about returning my x-t5 and 16-80mm combo. I'm spoiled with Sony ASPC.
I'm in the market for these cameras and it kinda sucks that it struggles to do something this simple when my DSLR like the Nikon D300 with 3D continuous auto focus does an amazing job at tracking the subject. I will continue doing more research for these cameras.
Thanks for not sugar-coating it so we know what to expect. When the X-T2 came out all the reviewers were praising its autofocus without mentioning any drawbacks, but they’re only barely testing it, and was quite disappointed when I got it. Continuous autofocus for video was unusable. At least now we know what we’re gonna get.
I don’t really get what Fuji is expecting selling pro priced cameras when 5 generations in they’re obviously still not ready.
Agreed, friend. Overall it’s still much better than before… but the inconsistencies are driving me nuts!
I have an xt3 and have the same experience. Was contemplating selling it and getting the 5, but it’s clear that there isn’t a significant improvement, no matter what the other reviews say... I already sold my x100f because of this - plus the close focus issue with the lens.
It makes me angry to know that 99% of reviewers aren’t open and honest about this
I think this is the problem of firmware, so no matter what model you buy.
I have an x-t3 and I cancelled my preorder for the x-t5 as I had my doubts. Instead I made a side ways move, ignored the negative reviews posted before firmware 3, and purchased a Nikon z6 to compare. For me I did not want a 40 mp sensor when I couldn’t change the Raw size like Nikon allow in the z7. I was also suspicious about the AF improvements because all I saw was reviewers looking through the viewfinder and assuming it was all in focus - pre production camera and all that. The AF problem needs fixed as it’s been going on too long! Glad to see at least one honest review.
X-t3 AF-C is pretty disappointing.
Hey @@alancampbell8282, how is the Nikon with AF and with Eye/Face AF?
I've been having the same problem with my XT-3 for years and missed some excellent personal shots because of it. On paid jobs I have it in the back of my mind to take extra photos in case the AF messed up so I come away with something in focus. And because of this experience, and because of the lack of VG, I held off on "upgrading" to the XT5. Also thinking of moving back to Nikon. And even considering a Sony A74 because of the smaller body and lenses in that ecosystem. But I hear they are still having problems with colours and colour casting. Don't want to go Canon because of the locked lens ecosystem.
The XT-5 is way better than the XT-3 in every respect. But what I find really strange is that a community the wants it's little manual dials is so hung up about autofocus. It's like they want to look like old style photographers but can't be arsed to learn to manual focus.
It even got worse since, I am getting crazy over the xh2 AF, studio portrait, good lighting, static subject 1 out of 2 out of focus, in a way I am glad to know I am not the only one experiencing this, seriously thinking of switching just because of this, missing essential shots is not ok.
It would be interesting to see your AF settings, as the tracking option can make a difference. Fuji is not like sony at all, where you set the AF and it just works. It needs a fair bit of setting up. Have to say, I tend to use AF-S for portrait shoots, unless the model is moving of course. However the focus priority set to "Focus" may help as the camera will only take a shot if it thinks it has focus. I think the default setting is set to release, so the shutter fires regardless. The Face Eye detect still can see faces on subjects that are clearly not, but its not as bad as previous cameras. I was out yesterday shooting street photography and was quite impressed by how well the AF picked up eyes from distance.
Next time i'm out, i'll try AF-C and see if my hit rate drops.
I can confirm that the default setting for focus priority on X-H2 in af-c is set "release" not "focus".
I also like to say that using the camera in af-c all the time with focus priority for af-c set to "focus" have no problems with the camera.
Sony has the best AF in the business. End of story. Having used an X-T3 for several years doing shoots with fast moving subjects, there are ways to improve the autofocus to the point where it isn’t a problem. Is it perfect? No. But it also hasn’t left me missing many shots. Back button focusing has been the single most useful function for Fuji focusing.
As far as this video goes, if you have a Sony that works for these situations, why bother trying to make the Fuji do the same?
@@starepiernikowe are you seeing any significant delays though when releasing the shutter? most set / leave the shutter on "release" because I don't want to miss a shot/moment because the camera thinks it isn't ready to shoot. I'll change mine to focus and see if the end results are better, hopefully in focus but not miles after whatever I wanted to shoot has already come and gone...
@@canyonblue737-8 hello, when subject is "in focus" I don't feel any delay.
When it's hunting for it sometimes there are very faint delays.
You can't have it both ways, the only thing that can be different is autofocus system itself.
What I'm saying is that the camera operates correctly, how it does it; is a different topic.
Perhaps, but you would think one of the Fuji Guys would talk about how to set the camera correctly. Also, the newer lenses does a way better job than the first gens.
This is a great analysis. You have been at the forefront of this. Subscribed.
Thanks, D O!
Strange. I’m getting much better results with my X-T5. Not as high a hit rate as my Z9, but for a third of the price, I wouldn’t expect that. Overall, with my copy and my purposes (mostly tracking my 2.5 year old), I’m happy with the X-T5’s autofocus abilities.
That’s awesome, Michael! I will say that this video was about that specific situation. The X-t5 is more than capable in many other situations - it just appears that in this use case (which I’m often in for my portraits, and often find myself in with wedding photography outside of the church), it struggles a lot!
@@JerredZ sorry to hear. That’s definitely frustrating. Hopefully Fujifilm will continue to improve the X-T5 with firmware updates. They have been good at that.
Video proof or it didn’t happen
I do not know about the issue with video but i know the issue with out of focus face and eyes in photos in XH2. There is an issue with "Focus Priority = RELEASE" which causes out of focus face and eyes even though the camera shows green box on face and eyes (false feedback) . FUJI ships cameras with default Focus Priority = RELEASE. The intent of this mode is to still be able take the pics in cases when the focus would not achieved. But the way it is working right now, it is never trying to focusing in first place and always taking blurry face and eyes which is a defect.Fuji needs to fix this. Change to "Focus Priority = FOCUS" and you will get tack sharp pics. Please test this and confirm. A high reach channel likes yours can help get FUJI's attention if you can confirm this Focus Priority issue. I have taken 3K pics with XH2 in studio portraits session and did not find a single tack sharp pics of face and eyes. i read about this setting and changed to Focus Priority and results are as good as full frame sharpness. However, it is still a defect with Release Priority which never focuses.
I'm frustrated with my X-H2 because it slightly misses focus even on static scenes that should be obvious shot at f5.6. What makes things worse is that it confirms focus before taking the shots, it looks in focus on the camera screen but when you open the raws on the computer they have missed focus shots randomly. I can't believe I'm second guessing focus on basic moments not even requiring tracking on a flagship mirrorless model in 2022. If Fujifilm don't address this very soon with firmware updates I'll be forced to sell it.
Sorry, Jason - that's NO fun. A new camera, at the very minimum, should give you confidence it will focus every time in this situation!
Which setting are you using: focus priority or release priority? You didn't mention that in this video, and that setting has a major effect on AF-C outcomes. If you're using focus priority, then these results are very concerning. If you're using release priority, then I would highly suggest trying focus priority before giving up. Cheers.
Here is the thing: the viewfinder and LCD screen was giving me a green “focus confirmation” the entire time. For my videos I had it on release priority becuase that’s the way I shoot Canon/Sony as well. In a lot of ways this video is just about the idea of what can we expect in 2022/2023 in a modern, “flagship” or higher-end camera? How many moments might I miss if I’m photographing someone in this manner, and the camera is missing focus or not focusing?
@@JerredZ I had no problems with the XH2s. The XH2 is set to focus release. But I never use wide tracking, as it gets confused like you showed it. It really gets funny when shooting team sports... the system fails when tracking one player. Keep on reporting these issues.
@@JerredZ In my experience using the X-T3's older Fujifilm autofocus system, using "release priority" in AF-C more-or-less doubles my missed shots compared to "focus priority." The purpose of the setting is to tell the camera whether you care more about perfect focus or perfect timing, so if you're judging focus performance, you should at least try using focus priority. The green box doesn't really have the same meaning in AF-C that it does in AF-S; it's not a focus lock so much as a subject lock indicator. AF-C is constantly re-judging and re-focusing and moving the lens elements. If the green box represented focus lock like you suggest it would be a flickering green box, never solid.
Yep. I just started shooting with a new X-T5, and I've already contacted the seller because this sort of thing is happening all the time. I assumed I had a defective unit. Thanks for this. I'm not happy to hear it's a problem others are seeing, but at least I know I'm not nuts.
I have X-H2 with 56 mm WR lens and have no problems with autofocus.
I use wide tracking af-c and I lock focus when I take shots of landscape or still objects - it's all in one configuration.
btw. tracking and subject recognition is fast and reliable and I'm amazed of how many animals it recognises.
From some opinions one could think, that this is the first camera that Fujifilm has ever made.
Sounds to me as though you spent time woring out how best to set up your camera and then you were able to achieve great results. That would make you a photographer and not a "TH-cam photographer".
@@doghouseriley4732 those days cameras have lots of ways to use them.
It would be a waste not to have fun :)
@@doghouseriley4732 If the insinuation is that Jerred Z doesn't know how to setup his Fuji cameras, you didn't watch the video or are just standing way too close to the trees to see the forest. This video is in line with the majority of other unbiased reviews and most importantly my own experience with the X-H2. It's basically about the same as the X-T3 - that is to say SAF is wonderful, but CAF isn't so great and CAF with tracking is completely unreliable. With both my OM-1 and A7Riv, you set the thing to CAF and tracking and compose your shot and it just works. Reliably. Fuji needs to catch up, IMO.
Fortunately, I don’t shoot enough portraits for this to be a dealbreaker for me but it’s still disappointing to know that I paid this much for a camera that has crappy eye AF (by ‘22 standards). Hopefully, more TH-camrs make noise about this n Fuji makes a FW update for it cuz this is just poor performance for a $2k camera. Thanks for the video Jerred!
Thank you, Nathan! Lol - people tell me all the time that it’s all about taking better photos, and to not worry about stuff like the autofocus… but I’m with you - in today’s environment, we should expect more from the eye/face focus. It does fine in many other situations, but it needs to do better!
@@JerredZ Agree with You, good eye tracking is a game changer today! Why? Beacause finally we are able to use those 1.2/1.4 horrible expesive primes wide open and produce sharp in focus pictures all the time. It was pretty hard task a few years ago to keep eyes in focus at fastest primes (wide open primes). This is what we pay for. It's sad - Fuji is cheating with ISO, and cheating with eye tracking.
After so many years behind the pack, there is no excuse for Fuji to still have AF issues like this.
Agreed, Ken! It would NOT have taken much to make me happy… but this is just below the threshold!
we all agree with you sadly...
Yep selling my x-t4 plus lenses to get a a7iv. I get similar results with the x-t4. I’ve giving it the benefit of the doubt, but so far I’ve only been disappointed In similar scenarios. Fujifilm cameras are more for manual shooters/single point and shoot.
I am so close to doing this. Not impressed with X-H2.. I do enjoy my X-H2S but the A7IV does both.. badass AF/tracking AND great resolution. The Sony 24-70 GM II is a BEAST of a lens.
I can confirm, I had the same issue with AF-C on my newly purchased X-H2, firmware v1.21, tested yesterday on street photowalk. Used pretty fast lenses (33 f1.4, 18 f1.4).
What i am suspecting could be the older lenses with older autofocus actuator, where it can’t keep up with the high speed bursting and tracking demand. It’s like a sport car but you also need to have the right gear box, not just engine
I read that the 90mm was not great at autofocus because of its age.
@@thomaslynch3688 not just the focusing actuator alone, macro lens usually has long focus throw too. I dont expect to see 30fps burst performance to work flawless on A1 lol.
I have an x-T4 and an x-H2 which I use for portraiture, documentary and event photography. Mainly using the xf 56 1.2, xf 16-55 2.8 and xf 50-140, I have almost no autofocus problems. I regularly shoot live dance performances under stage lighting and out of about 1000 shots, I mainly use tracking and may only get three or four out of focus. Under good lighting conditions, such as daylight or studio lighting, focus success is close to 100%.
Great! Glad you're getting fantastic results!
@@pauljohnkiener5056 I just use the standard custom setting. I do have power management set to boost when photographing stage performances however. That does seem to make a difference to autofocus accuracy. Eye detection is off and I use zone focusing or tracking. I always shoot RAW, use Pro Neg Hi or Pro Neg Standard with Auto white balance and everything else set to defaults. All noise reduction and other processing is done in Capture One. I hope this helps.
what are your specific autofocus tracking settings in AF menu with continous and eye detect?
This aged well ! check the 6.0 firmware videos
I have latest 6.0 update for XH2S. I review shots and get “face detected” with green box around face but half the time contents of box are blurry. So it somehow detects the face but can’t focus on it.
I'm having a horrible experience using the X-H2 with the 150-600mm, with AF-C, wide tracking, bird (object) selected. The camera and lens does an excellent job - when it's behaving, but then in veers off into ridiculousness.
I'm trying to get a shot of a yellow warbler and the bird is making it easy for me. He is sitting in an uncluttered space, perfectly placed. I have the lens zoomed out to 150 to find the bird in the viewfinder then zoom to 600 to get the shot. There he is in all of his yellow glory at 600mm, then suddenly he's a yellow smear as the lens goes completely out of focus. I never did get a shot of that bird. In other cases I'm trying to get easy shots of marsh birds and the lens/camera just simply refuses to focus. I point the lens at a tree line and it focuses, then a drop down to aim at the bird and the thing goes completely out of focus again.
Other times the camera would put the focusing box on the bird as it should, but the bird is out of focus. In fact in all of these cases where the bird was somewhat in focus to begin with, the focusing box was on the bird and recognized it as such when the lens went completely out of focus.
This is not my only experience with bad AF performance using wide tracking/object tracking, just the most recent one. Don't get me started on tracking when shooting video.
I don't need a 100% hit rate, but 90% would be nice versus the less than 50% I'm getting now.
Update with firmware 2.0……. Big improvement
@@ericmosso7723 Yup, I did that a few days ago and it does improve things, but I think the best fit with the settings is also a big thing.
I have an XT4/100-400 combo, and a used SONY A9/200-600 combo. I use both for birds in flight. I use Zone Tracking, (not wide), CF, Shutter release on Focus. The A9 ALWAYS blows the XT4 away. I was waiting to buy the XT5, since I wanted a better sensor. I think I'll wait. I now relegate the XT4 for less demanding work. Thank you for posting this video!
Hello! And thanks for creating this video! Informative content. I got the X-H2 and X-T5 a few days back and tested it on my dogs for stills (animal eye af is important for me). And honestly speaking I’m just comparing it to my Sonys which I use for my pro work at this point, AF wise Sony is reliable but it does have its misses which I think largely due to human error or bad lighting. Both the Sony and Fujifilms works very well (in good light) just that it is more challenging for the fujis in less than ideal lighting.
Ultimately, I got the Fuji for my own personal social media page works (film sims and easier file management. Not to mention lightweight setup for cafe / travel hopping on the go) while the Sony is used for pro work.
At the end of it I get the results I want from both systems as they are tools we need to learn it’s pros and cons to master them. No tools are perfect nor any brands for that matter.
Pick the best system in that gives you more fun and tbh Fuji is more fun for me😅.
Lastly, I wanna ask if you made any changes to the tracking sensitivity for varied results. Would like your opinion on them if it changes the result of your tests thus far.
Thanks, Mary. I love the film simulations too! And as far as the tracking settings, no matter what my AF custom settings were (and I tried to change them multiple times to see if there was an effect - I should have put that in the video) - once the face/eye tracking takes over, I see no change in behavior or “hit” rate based on any of the settings.
It’s cathartic to watch this. I thought there was something wrong w my camera (only). My XT5 fails w a sitting subject at times. It tracks the correct nearer eye through the EVF, but the result is the far eye 🤦♂️
It's frustrating, Mick!!
Thanks Jerred.....good review with some hard to dispute evidence. I think I will wait a while before I purchase a new Fujifilm body and see how this plays out. Many reviewers just recently received their new X-T5, and I have been waiting to see what issues they discover with the production models.
Thanks Max - I would agree. However - I would also say that the camera works pretty well for many types of situations. If you see yourself shooting like I did in the video… then yes, you should wait and see! If you ever need anything, reach out!
Thank you for this video, highly appreciated.
I switched from Canon to Fuji some years ago for wedding work because of the weight. Loved the handling but immediately ran into autofocus problems that were so bad that I converted to manual focussing, no joke. Bought a bunch of XT2s and an X-H1 and since then get along with manual, using autofocus only for overhead wide angle crowd shots and the like. I need to overshoot a lot, but at least I can blame myself for it.
I am still waiting for getting back to autofocus, especially for video work, and am on the fence of either investing into some newer Fuji cameras, going back to Canon or going the Sony route. Your video has now confirmed to me that Fuji is still not up to prime time, sadly enough.
Hannes - it's BETTER than it was before, and in some situations it's pretty good. But for some situations where we have no control over the background (say a bride and groom having a walk at a local park with a lot of distracting elements) - the autofocus struggles a bit.
If this is the case, it will be interesting to see if Fuji can fix this with firmware.
improve is certainly possible, but I don't think you jump from this to anything approaching the competition with just firmware. hopefully they can do something, because this processor, sensor etc. is the fuji platform for the next 2-3 years now.
I know. So disappointing. There is so much good about the X-T5 . I shoot wildlife and birds and I'm struggling a bit. There isn't a day goes by that I don't think about switching to C or S. I'm hoping the rumors of a firmware update to address this are true. Thanks again for an honest review and opinion. Kudos.
💯 Agree. Just bought the X-T5 and it’s horrendous even for still subjects. No reliability at all. I thought I was going mad but your video has got me thinking. It’s worse than the X-T3 😮
Matt - I’m SO sorry you’re having that experience with your new camera! The X-T5 is so beautiful and capable of amazing photos… but it’s really frustrating when this type of inconsistency is happening, right?
I had Fuji X-E2, X-T1, X-T2, X-T3, X-T4, X-H1, X-PRO2 and X-PRO3 and always had autofocus issues with these cameras! Standing me in the same place photographing a static object and taking several distance measures with camera’s autofocus (AF-S, smallest point, no pre-AF, I had set my camera’s Shutter Release/Focus Priority to Focus priority for BOTH AF-S and AF-C), I have different distances measured. Sometimes when taking a photo of a landscape or of a far building, in one measure the camera says that it is 3 meters far and next time it says it is in the infinite.
Analysing these cameras’ AF behaver and because the camera measures the distance with the diaphragm closed to the selected f-stop, AF processor does not know the difference between what is in focus and what seems to be in focus because of depth of field. These errors are more frequent with wide angle lenses and closed diaphragms (great depth of field) than with tele lenses and open diaphragms (narrow or inexistent depth of field). With the latter the photos are practically 100 per cent sharp focused.
Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Olympus… All these cameras focus with the diaphragm wide opened. I do not understand why Fuji do it with it closed!
Now I have a X-T5 and it seems that this camera became more intelligent and I noticed an improvement in AF, the measures have more consistency but I always have to check the displayed distance in the scale.
You must be thinking why I keep using Fuji cameras. Well, Fuji cameras are the kind of cameras that we like use and feel in the hands, they are cameras that give us pleasure to photograph to in spite of their faults.
I have the same problem with the X-T4. AF-S does an excellent job, but AF-C has a high miss-rate. You can hear the AF going back and forth, although face and eye have been detected. I like shooting portraits when the persons do not know that I‘m shooting, so they are at ease. This also implies that they keep moving and the result is here known. But overall, I love my Fuji camera.
Same here. This is a real problem. I was using the 35mm f2 which is a fast lens and even then had big problems with AF-C. I am very frustrated with Fuji. Also, sometimes my X-T4 seems to miss focus even in AF-S when I had enough time to properly focus.
feel like eye detect used to work better for me. have not done latest firmware update as I heard there were issues. But currently, eye detect is just not grabbing the eyes. I have to recompose and force it to grab the eye and then it will stick which kind of defeats part of the purpose. Maybe I have it set up wrong.
I have not done any of the updates lately because I’ve heard about all the problems. I already bought a Nikon to deal with fast/tough autofocus situations!
So I live in Toronto and Fuji has an office complex here and they've recently listed job ads looking for 5 senior software engineers for research and development. Hopefully that's for their camera software. The ads went up with this new batch of camera launches, so I'm hoping we get improved AF capabilities going forward. The processors in these cameras are more than powerful enough to handle sony level subject tracking
Oh man, I hope so!!! That would be great if they fix this stuff soon!
That would be awesome!
I sold the xh2 and kept the xh2s for use. The two cameras were even worse than in the film at the beginning, but they have improved a lot through firmware updates, but there is still a gap between Sony and Sony in terms of focusing trust.
Video is spot on. Just gave the XH2s a workout at the Philadelphia
Dog show. Animal eye tracking using wide tracking and AF-C the focus box was not reliable at all. The eye detect was very spotty as well. I had to concentrate on skill rather than rely on the improved tech. 60-70 percent hit rate at best. Expected way better performance in the real world.
And of course I didn’t see anyone using a Fuji. The 50-140 and 100-400 definitely held its own though. When the images were in focus they looked amazing.
Hope Fuji firmware can improve the performance of the stacked sensor.
Oh man. Thanks for letting me know. My next set of tests will be with the X-H2s... so I'm going to see what happens. In general real-world use for portraits it performed better than the X-H2 and X-T5... but that's with an asterisk because there were a few strange situations where the focus completely lost it's mind and refused to see a face and/or act like I would expect at all. HOWEVER - I need to shoot with it more, and a few random hiccups here and there are common on most cameras - they just can't be the norm!
I recently did a shoot for a client and my X-T4 with the 56mm 1.2 (first version) had serious problems getting a face in focus -> it was broad daylight and the guy was not moving. I am getting very frustrated with Fuji AF (I own an X-T2, X-T3 and X-T4). It is hit or miss. I do a lot of events and also own some old Canon gear (5ds). I have had situations in which the 5ds performed much better than my Fuji gear. I have recently caught myself thinking of switching back to Canon. I am tired of checking and rechecking pictures for sharpness. I recently shot a concert with a very important moment I had to get and Fuji almost let me down. This is a no go for a "professional" system.
Until now I have put up with all the Fuji shortcomings: X-Trans problems in lightroom, bigger files than Canon, NIkon considering the MP, AF problems, slower performance with Fuji files and so on but the AF problems and their persistence really put me off. If I spend another 2000 Euro or more on a camera, I want great autofocus -> so I will probably pick up an Canon R6 and not an X-T5 or X-H2(s).
Point well made. I am having same issues on my XT-5. Is just not consistent. When I tested R5 it was clear that is just a complete different beast when it comes to autofocus.
It is, Aleks! but Fuji said they are working on firmware updates to the X-T5, so let's hope it fixes some of the issues!
Thanks for that video, l have been feeling like an idiot when l brought up that issue to the Fuji community groups on Facebook, l had tho hear that l don't know how to use my camera etc. I'm a professional photographer and l have been using all the brands, don't get me wrong l love Fuji but l hate it's AF system. So l have decided to sell my new XT5 and move back to Sony. l will wait till Fuji does some improvements on their AF issues
Has the autofocus performance on x-t5 and x-h2 improved after the latest firmware update?
Thinking about upgrading my x-t3, and your video got me thinking about Sony again :)
Not sure, Dima. I haven't tested it out, and I no longer have either camera. Sorry!
I've suffered a bit of this on my X-H2. Although turning the 'AF-MF' setting to off helped. Eye detect works well ('almost' perfectly) when using my XF 50-140mm lens but misses a few frames when using the XF-70-300mm (using both at the same 100mm focal length and aperture setting). Hopefully performance will evolve with firmware updates.
Thanks for your honest testing efforts. I am very happy owner of an X-H2S, but have yet to try it for shooting moving subjects while tracking via Face/Eye. The results you are getting are abysmal when compared to the Sony. As a Fuji fan this type of result is disappointing in the extreme. I am now compelled to test this on my X-H2S to see if I encounter similar struggles.
the AF is supposed to perform considerably better on the X-H2S because of the stacked sensor but all the "reviews" so far regarding the X-H2 and X-T5 said they still were way better than the X-T4. I knew that Fuji hadn't caught up to Sony/Canon but his keeper rate for a kid walking is less than 25% and for a nearly still headshot sequence maybe 50-75%... that's horrifyingly bad. I have a X-T5 on the way to replace the X-T4 I sold and I expected way better than this.
Thanks, Robert! The X-H2s (which I also have… I know… I’m crazy) does considerably better but is NOT to the level of Sony. Nothing is though… so there’s that! :). The thing really is that the camera performs pretty decently at times, and in some situations works really well. However, since using Sony and Canon, both systems really changed the way I shoot knowing the autofocus was going to nail the shot… that I guess I just want the same out of the Fuji cameras. Thanks for watching.
I absolutely agree with you. I am a nature photographer. I just bought Fuji XH2 and fujinon 150-600. It can't focus on the huge bird standing 4m in front of me. The bird stays still for minutes, I take hundreds of frames, but most of them are not clear. And the light is very good even if the shutter speed is very high ISO is low. By the way, it is almost impossible to shoot flying birds. It was a complete disappointment for me. What a pity
Maybe maybe I shouldn’t expect that level of performance from Fuji …. I think you dam well should given the tech available.
Finally some one doing an honest truth review. I feel like the autofocus hasn’t improved much compared to the X-T4.
Thanks Jerred! I know you ended up leaving Sony for The Fuj! You may even have explained this to me already... Did you find a way to AF-C that did work? FW 3.0? I'm really wanting to move from my A7iv to an X-H2 (whole family eco-system decision)... good move? I have fast kids, and need decent enough performance for indoor night events (well lit games, birthday parties, etc.). Everything else for me is either BIF or landscapes. Great video, thanks for the honesty! Have loved the images coming out of the X-t5 and new X-H's.
Hey, Chad! With the new firmware, I've heard it's better... but I haven't tested it out much. The XH2 has been my landscape and nature camera, while the X-H2s is my fast-moving camera... so I'm not 100% sure how much better the XH2 is now. It does seem snappier and more confident, especially with some birds and stuff - but I haven't tested it. I guess I am happy with my set-up of the two cameras for two purposes!
I'm on latest xh2 firmware, no issue with photos, went to an air show and performed really well in high burst mode. But while recording camera lost the planes and focused again, little bit disappointing, used 70-300mm, planes were flying fast, photos are good, video not so much. Maybe it's the lens, overall it's good for the price.
I was trying AF-C + Pre-AF ON in my X-H1 using a Canon EF 85mm f:1.2L at full aperture (Fringer Pro II adapter) and finally I switch off because there wasn't any difference, now watching your test I have similar results in the H1 (with or without face tracking) and I'm speechless when I see what does the X-H2 or X-T5 versus a Sony A7IV.
I like the Fuji menu system and how it works, but it is true, Sony it is making a great job for the same price, I was thinking about to get a GFX 100s but a Sony body (FF sensor) it is a better value for money for sure. I was thinking about to upgrade to a X-T4 or a X-H2s because I don't need 40 mp, I hope that Fujifilm has a performing firmware update to solve that big issue, not nice to see.
Well I have great results with that combo as well as Fujinon lenses, the AF tracking it is the same with Fuji lenses.
its not just AF-C, AF-S can't seem to focus to save its life on the xh2. anything further than a few feet away is basically trash, the only acceptable images I get are when I've stopped down to allow DoF to save me. I've tried every setting, switching to back button focus and that helped a bit, but not nearly enough where I can trust the xh2. I'm disappointed everytime I load my images into LR and look at them, its such a shame.
Used the XH2 with 18-120 f4 they eye AF worked great at least it's better then the Nikons which does not have eye and face detect working together
This is the main reason I'm leaving Fuji for Canon or Sony for professional work. I will still keep my Fuji for family and personal use. I love Fuji but they need to catch up to the competition.
I do wildlife photography and shoot with canon R5 for over 2 years and I need a travel/back up camera. Since new Fuji cameras have animal AF I bought Fuji X-T5 ( I used to have Fuji X-E3 and X-T2, love Fuji cameras). I tested it and very disappointed. I'm running latest firmware 2.03 and I can confidently say Fuji camera AF is NOT SAME LEVEL as Canon for wildlife photography. I had same experience as you had that in EVF/LCD it looks lock on focus but when it viewed on computer it's out of focus. I think the X-T5 is only my travel camera.
Regarding the focus "problem", a viewer made the following comment/suggestion on another video which was discussing the "focusing problem" with the X-T5. I thought I would repeat it here in case it would be of help to you or your viewers.
(Note that the comment below might also apply to the X-H2. The reason I say "might" is that I do not own an X-H2 and have no way to check to see if these settings are possible, or if they would improve the auto-focusing on the X-H2). The comment I mentioned in the above paragraph is provided immediately below:
"...did you set your camera’s Shutter Release/Focus Priority to Focus priority for BOTH AF-S and AF-C? The out-of-the-box default settings is with Release on both AFS and AFC. Also, turn off AF+MF"
going to try this out today. thanks
X-H1 had the same issue, there was no fix or firmware update. I basically shelved it. I need more consistency. Most Fuji cameras are bad at this, but not that bad.
That's a bit of a bummer mate , Good job reporting it .
And I think you are right on the reviews situation,
at times some reviews do hype up the capabilities of some devices , and sometimes I think it may not even be intentional , however devices get praised when they have not even been fully tested properly , and only after you watch many reviews with lots of comparison data do you see the bigger picture.
All the best to you mate.
Thank you man!
Any plans to try this with the X-H2s? I keep looking at reports and I've a few that were unhappy with the H2, but none that were unhappy with the H2s.
I might do more, Vincent. First thoughts is that the "s" is better, but still not near Sony's level. BUT - I need to work on it. It kind of stinks I'm out of portrait season, or I'd have plenty to do... my son is sick of me asking him to do my videos! HA!
I am so tempted to upgrade from trans 4 bodies but every review tell me that xh2 and xt5 face and eye are not compatible to Sony and gang. Shame on Fuji in 2022 and 2023 with even LUMIX s5 ii blowing out PDAF that's better. So the only way to get decent focus Is the XH2 S and latest lenses?
My X-T4 does this. Literally can’t be ‘trusted’. It sounds spoiled but many other cameras are at the point of aim, hold BBF & majority of eyes in focus. Almost effortless. I picked up this X-T4 to be a casual/travel body but I think I’m letting it go.. grabbing an X-Pro2 for casual as I’ll have far lower AF expectations & grabbing R6ii when I need glossy wet eyeballs & amazing high ISO performance.
I Love my X-T5, it's a fabulous camera, however, I agree with the eye and animal tracking. Not good enough for sure.
I photograph equine sports for my living, and was excited for the animal tracking.
It misses too many times and slows the camera down no end.
So, I'm back to the zone AF and it's noticeably better than the XT-4 for that.
Also the high ISO noise is definitely worse on the X-T5
Do I want to change systems, no... I love using the Fujifilms, however, I definitely have to work around it's weaknesses.
Was thinking of canceling my order for the X-E4 for the X-T5 for the better autofocus but it seems like it’s not acceptable for today standards. I guess I’ll hold on to my order and wait until the X-T6
For the moment I've stopped using the subject detection for face/eye focus on my XH2 because it's just unreliable, even with the current 3.01 firmware. When I just use tracking and set the focus area to the subject's face and hold the shutter button half depressed it works a lot better. The tracking speed also needs to be set high.
I've been a Sony shooter for the last four years. Previously I had been a Canon shooter. I love the Fuji colors and was excited when the X-H2 was announced. Candidly, it's a huge disappointment. The 40 MP sensor is muddy and noisy. The autofocus and tracking, especially for birds, are terrible. I'm getting a higher keeper rate (90%+) with the Sony A7R IV. The Sony only shoots up to 10 FPS, but 90% are clear, and it finds the animal, especially in trees. I'm lucky to get a keeper rate of around 65% for the Fuji. As noted, trying to capture birds in trees is useless. I was using the new Fuji 150-600 with the X-H2. This combination should produce stellar results. There's a lot of hype around these new sensors, don't believe the hype.
Thanks for the great work Jerred. I’m glad you stuck with the truth. I’m hearing more and more about Fuji’s auto focus problems. Whats sad is they have been tuned to Fuji users and always responded and fixed what was wrong. Where are they on this issue??? All these new cameras and two of the three not focusing well . I was about to purchase one of them but am waiting for not just better but best auto focus This situation is why I have stuck with my Nikon Z7ii and lenses. I’ve had and am happy with my XT-3 and several lenses. This latest focus problem has left me Not all that happy with Fuji at the moment.
Thanks, Gerald! That Z7II is pretty amazing. I shot with it a bunch last year and that sensor rocks! I think you're in a great place!
been using xh1 for 3 years and that unconfident focusing behaviour is very similar. I shoot alot of theatre/events and the only time when i feel confident with my xh1's focus is when im using the smallest zone cont focus, even then it still misses like 20% of the shots. Been thinking about upgrading but now im having second thoughts. only reason i can live with it are the fuji colors. i've gotten some sony lvl focus shots but they're just dumb luck tbh.
One thing I would say is most other you tubers just show that green square on the eye and call it a day. As you found it, that doesn't mean you nailed the shot. So thanks for bringing this up. But you should also share all your settings. Fuji is not like Sony. No I haven't tested the latest bodies but Fuji to me don't like AF-C and eye tracking like Sony.
Bobby - I should have talked about that more, but I removed a big segment where I show (quickly) thousands of other photos in tests I did with various settings. It seems that, as soon as the face/eye tracking takes over, none of the settings (AF Tracking/AF Speed) makes a difference to my hit rate in any discernible way.
I just shot a race yesterday and shot some people STANDING STILL watering down the dirt track and I had continuous autofocus and high speed burst set - and the little green box was locked on the guys eye the entire time- and the entire series is out of focus. Very bright sunlight- he was not moving, I was not moving- and in a couple shots the leaves in the back are in focus. Super frustrating- In the viewfinder the shots looked on point. The resulting photos were not. Obviously Sony has figured this issue out- but in a way this is an issue that is also related to an electronic viewfinder. If we were looking through the actual lens like in a DSLR we would see exactly what’s in focus and what is not and at least be able to make a correction. What’s kind of frustrating is I’ve used an XH1 for sports and got much more consistent results in an older camera. I’m confused.
Hi, the Fujis are thinking differntly regarding continous AF. I've also switch from Sony to Fuji. On the Fuji's it's best to configure and use Zone AF for tracking AF.
Yep, I am not surprised at all by this result. Fuji have pulled the wool over everyone's eyes by making the tracking LOOK good but actually ENGAGING the shutter/AF and seeing what the captures are like is a completely different thing entirely. It's easy to throw some green boxes up all over the back of the camera screen, doesn't mean shit.
Even with the XT4, I have noted it can be SLOW to present a green box over the face/eye (you take the shot not seeing a green box etc), but on review get a pleasant surprise that the eye was found and in focus. It feels like this is what they have actually boosted, the real time feedback of the green box appearing, but not necessarily ACTUALLY improving AF all that much. I think I would get very similar keeper rate to you using my XT4 for the same scenarios. Day one of owning a Fuji XT4, I set to AF.C, Face/Eye Detection, Wide Tracking and had my kid run up and down the front lawn towards me, my results echo yours here.
Basically the AF is not sticking enough still, it's like there is no 'Hold' status, as soon as it loses it goes hunting rather than chilling on the focal plane or something (until it reacquires).
The only question I have left is if the XH2S is any better, because a stacked sensor might actually be assisting a lot more than on the other two 40mp sensors. I have a hunch it might be and the XH2S is now the real only replacement I would entertain over the XT4.
Ah... I have been spoilt tho, coming from Pentax Fuji AF still feels like a dream lol, enough for me to get most client work done with reasonable results.
The devil is in the details tho, I want more than just Face/Eye Detection, I want to be able to restrict it to certain areas of the frame. No point in using this feature at all for things like a person getting out of their chair at an awards ceremony or the bride walking down the aisle if the face detected and locked on is not the person you want. Face Select is frustratingly annoying, and buggy when it can be turned on along side Face/Eye Detection, its honestly all a mess at camp Fuji 😆
Hey, Eddy! You know… I’m with you. It’s a strange thing - the in-camera experience really made me a believer until I reviewed the photos. The X-H2s does appear to do MUCH better - sometimes remarkably so - but honestly, I need to spend more time with the X-H2s now. In a recent portrait shoot I did with it, using face/eye tracking, I had the couple walk toward me with the sun setting behind them in a forest-like setting. That’s kind of a tough one for a camera since there is so much distance to gauge (they went from pretty far away to right close to the camera) - so much background stuff going on, AND the sun shining right into the lens. THe X-H2s did an amazing job. However - in the same session, there were some very simple scenes where it locked focus on something other than the couple’s eye (a branch in the background for instance). I had to stop autofocus, recompose completely, and then it found the subject. SO - a little inconsistent maybe, but overall it seems to be much better. Again - I’m going to be using it more now that I’m sending the X-T5 back!
I never had any issues with the XH2s when there is only one person in the frame, even when shooting a show riding event or speedway, the camera locks on the pedestrian or the driver. Very fast and reliable.
@@JerredZ If you could do a follow up with the XH2S that would be much appreciated.
i just got the x-t5 and x-h2s and there are some problems with Subject Detect auto-focus but when turned off and using single-point af-C, it seems to work very well.
Yeah, Darin - I'm seeing the same thing... which is kind of unfortunate, but at least there's a workaround that works for some people in some areas!
I just finished a very quick test in the back yard, tracking my wife as she roamed about the back patio at a normal walking pace. I was shooting with the X-H2S with the Fuji 30 mm Macro at f/2.8, 1/500th, ISO 1600 (crummy light) with wide tracking and eye detect. Out of 107 photos taken at 7 fps she was clearly in focus in all of them. So it certainly seems the X-H2s is faring far better at eye tracking. No shot accidentally grabbed onto the background but the background was also not terribly busy. I will test again in the next few days to see if these strong results hold up when against a busy background. I will also test my other lenses- a Tamron 17-70 and Fuji 70-300 and Fuji 23 1.4 wr and let you know what I find. I am quite surprised there may be such a large difference in performance between the X-H2/-X-T5 and X-H2S. Most reviews have minimized the focus performance differences.
Robert - I have the X-H2s as well, and it fares far better in all of these situations. Still not up to Sony level in the same back-yard chaotic situation, but it’s MUCH better. Thank you, Robert!
please update us how did it go with the tamron 17-70 on XH2S, Robert. I myself have XT5 with 17-70 and wasnt really happy with the AF even in AF-S
i totally agree , i am considering selling my X-H2 the autofocus is so poor with Auto focus . Auto focus so much better with the sony models
I had the same focus problem until I ensured that AM+MF was turned off. Focus priority on of course. Now much better.
I'd love to see you do a follow-up. The XH2S just got a firmware update and I'm finding the AF is now amazing. HUGE improvement.
Downloaded a few minutes ago, Brian - I'll check it out too! Excited!
@@JerredZ well any updates ?
Jerred, thanks for what you are doing! Great video. Appreciate for finding out about this issue. Need more attention to this issue, hope it would help fuji to improve.
I just posted this on another YT's channel where he covered the same AF problems: I did a side by side comparison of the XT5 and the XT3 with the 33mm 1.4 lens in BIC camera in Tokyo not long ago. I was traveling in Japan with my XT-3 and was interested in upgrading to the XT-5 so I went over to BIC. I had the exact same findings in which the XT5 gave false positives. I photographed customers walking towards the display stand with wide area tracking (Fuji's version of the 3D tracking) and focus priority in AF-C mode. The hit rate for the XT5 was only about 15% better (roughly 60% in focus) than my XT-3 even though it showed a false positive AF. My main cameras the Canon R5 would have been at 95% hit rate in the same scenario. I hope this is something Fujifilm can fix in firmware, otherwise it's not really work the upgrade.
Oh, Mark. You are right on. This IS happening, no matter what others are saying (and there are a lot of people who are still not believing that this is an issue). Your percentages are totally right - I shot yesterday at my son's Dojo with the X-H2 and it just missed so many shots... as soon as I switch to my Sony A7iv... EVERY shot is in focus. 98% probably, while my X-H2 was, at best, 70%. At one point it totally thought someone in the back of the room's ear was an eye, even when I "locked" focus on my son's face.... I can understand if it happens SOMETIMES - all systems will have some issues here and there... but it happens too often on the Fuji.
It's quite cute for me now looking at Fuji fans reviewing every new generation of Fuji and state ohhh now X-T2 / X-T3 / X-T4 / X-T5 is basically at Sony level. Then after couple months reliable tests like this one show up and the truth is still the same. Fuji is still 5 years or more behind Canon / Sony AF level. I still love my X-E3 but I stopped lying to myself that Fuji will ever reach that level.
Totally expected this of Fujifilm. I never believe whenever they claim improved continuous AF tracking and also when "reviewers" say that it's improved. Fujifilm does not need to improve their AF, they need to rebuild the damn thing.
Still, I love my Fujifilm camera but I will use it mostly with manual lenses. If I need reliable autofocus, I'd get a Sony.
I love my Fuji’s but the autofocus has always had missed shots and is probably my biggest gripe especially when shooting my family.
I am experiencing from time to time with the XH-2 and the 100-400, the continuous autofocus just stalls to a closer distance and I have to switch to manual focus to override the issue, even turning on and off the camera does not work. Otherwise and overall, it usually works very well but needs improvements.
Such a frustrating situation. It's really strange that on the LCD it appears to have a lock yet the images are not in focus. When I think about that it makes me wonder if the lens isn't capable of getting where it need to be quickly enough. Or, is there some lag in signal processing between the time it locks and tries to energize the camera AF motors? Especially since they apparently spent so much engineering time on improving the camera side of AF. Thanks for the info. Have a Happy Thanksgiving!!
I know! I’m frustrated here. Charlie… I’m to the point where I don’t ever want to read about or do anything like this video again. I was miserable doing all these tests and honestly thought I had to be doing something wrong like 100 times… but when I would ask my friends about it and let them take some photos (photographers as well) - when they reviewed them they said the same thing. It’s frustrating because AT TIMES it works pretty decently… but then seems to be possessed by a demon! I’m ready to move on though and just hope for some firmware updates!
@@JerredZ Yeah, totally not the type of stuff you enjoy doing most.
Most of the X-T and X100 detect the face and it seems focused, but the moment you take the pictures, sometimes it just doesn't do a great job. The X-T5 is doing better when it's not in continuous autofocus. Also, newer lenses do a better job in autofocus.
What a great review! I was just about to purchase a new XT-5 before watching your video and after looking into the issue you have shown I've found multiple reviews reporting the exact same problem. Disappointed in Fuji because they should have known this issue existed before they released the cameras. Their marketing department heavily advertised the great autofocus . Shame on you Fuji. Looks like my next purchase won't be a Fuji XT-5. Fuji should fix it or allow users to return their cameras for a refund after all the marketing about the awesome autofocus
John, I’m really, really, really hoping they fix it!!! In my opinion, it’ll be a legendary camera with autofocus that works as well as, say Canon. OR - if it gets close. Let’s hope!!!
You are not alone. I have the same issue with my XH2S. Not only the AF, I found the color rendering different to the xT4 which I have sold and also the noise is worst. I’ve been waiting for more people to confirm this before deciding whether to sell it.
Tim... a LOT of people have reached out to me through comments, Instagram and/or email and asked me about the XH2s because they are also having issues with that camera. I have all three (XT5, XH2, XH2S) - but the one I've shot the least with is the "s." SO - if I find the time to do some with it, I will!
@@JerredZ That would be great Jerred! 9 out of 10 reviews are praising the cameras, so it's good to see someone being honest! Thanks :)
The only question I can think of is are you using the latest version of each of the lenses?
I'm a huge Fuji fan and intended to upgrade to the X-H2 or X-T5. However, I'm seeing so many poor reviews of the autofocus, I can't ignore it anymore. I'm holding off to see how Fuji react. Because although primarily a stills landscape photographer, I also enjoy street photography and other types, when you rely on autofocus to work, or the shot is lost forever. I really hope Fuji can fix this issue and halt the damage it's doing to their reputation and to loyal Fuji shooters.
I hear you, Paul! I'm mostly a nature and landscape photographer too... but I do enough paid portraits, events, weddings here and there where I hoped the focus would be more reliable. Let's hope Fuji updates the firmware and makes us all believe they will fix this and compete at the highest level!
I think we all know since the X-T1 there has been issues with autofocus, and we hoped with the new processor it would be better. I think it is better in focusing, but not like Canon or Sony cameras.
Thank you so much for posting this and sharing so many details. I've been having many of the same issues. I'm curious, did you contact Fujifilm about the issue and have they had any response?
Hello, Sasha! I'm sorry you're having some of these issues! It's frustrating. And no, I didn't contact Fuji about it, although I should have, right? I guess that's something I should do more often.
@@JerredZ HI Jerred, thanks for replying so quickly! It would be wonderful if they tracked these and reached out to you to resolve. I'll let you know if I hear anything helpful!!
So i'm assuming it wouldn't be good for sporting events such as boxing and jiujitsu? or still worth it based on price?
Hmmm... I think it might do okay depending on the situation. My son is a junior black belt and the XT5/XH2 struggles far more than the X-H2s in that situation, but I've also gotten good shots with them... just have to work a little harder.
Did you set it focus priority? I recently changed my xt3 settings to try to improve my hit rate for flying birds and this helped.
Thanks. Matt Granger came to the same conclusion : unacceptable results for portrait work.
Thanks for the review! The only way Fuji will get better is if their customers demand it and are honest with its limitations. I can imagine this would be majorly disappointing for a professional who relies on autofocus. It seems to me like they figured out how to get a green box to stay fixed on an eye, but haven't figured out how to translate that into actual performance. Let's hope they just rushed it for the launch and are still developing the algorithm.
YES! They win the "green box" wars!
I have noticed the same. When I take mine out to take pictures of my 2 year old who moves quite unpredictably I am getting worse results than I would have expected from the X-H2. I have been tempted to trade all my Fuji Kit in and swap it for the Sony A7IV (which I talked myself out off because of the cost of lenses)
Ryan- I totally get it. This is happening to so many of us, and the A7iv just NAILS every shot. BUT it's quite a bit more of an investment, so I totally hear you. I really feel like a gut punch with the XH2 - it was supposed to be the real deal with focus!
I have the same with the xt5 and not happy!
Weird, have the H2S and it rarely missing focus at all. Suppose you have updated the system? What are your exact settings wrt focus?
00:10 me too , People on fujiforums are telling me I dont know how to use the camera :))
The worst part of brand loyalty!
I'm a little confused as to why you say that it isn't true that you shouldn't have to tweak your autofocus settings. Using AF-wide and leaving it on the camera's default setting of tracking sensitivity 2 and speed sensitivity to 0 is not going to be great for photos of your son moving unpredictably with a busy background. Putting the mode to AF-Zone over wide and bumping the tracking to 4 and speed to 2 should give better results but still not perfect. You can also save these settings to a custom setting on both the XH2 and XT5 to easily toggle it off and on.
I have same problem with my new XT 5 - tons of AF issues, I decided to return it and switch to another brand, evidently Fujifilm is unable to give us an autofocus up to par - what a shame
This is a frustrating experience, but at least you had the opportunity to return it and get something that fits you better!
I absolutely agree. I will not upgrade if the AF is not doing its job.