This is the shocking tale of Sister Mary Margaret Kreuper, a nun and teacher of 60 years, whose dark secret spiralled out of control and rattled her local community... Socials Instagram / amglimpse TikTok / amglimpse
"I can't judge a person for the worst thing they've done" That is bonkers. Can you imagine a judge echoing that sentiment in an assault trial? gross gross gross
a school shooting trial, a mass shooting trial, it's sad but it's known to happen since you don't need a high IQ in America to be a judge, just know the right people.
A judge who said "I do not look at nuns as ordinary people..." doesn't sit well with me. Justice is supposed to be blind, and here is a judge admitting that he can not be impartial when it comes to a case that involves a nun. Maybe someone who is more knowledgeable in this case can explain why there wasn't push back from the community after he admitted to this.
@@numbuh1507 no, I do mean "justice is supposed to be blind". The figure that is typically used for justice is a woman holding a balanced scale in one hand and a sword in the other. She is also blindfolded. Which is where the idea that "justice should be blind" comes from. If the judge views nuns differently from an average citizen then that judge isn't "blind" or impartial to those who may stand before him.
Good point! Of course we know in reality this isn’t the case since wealthier people can afford better litigation, but I’ve never heard of a judge flat out admitting it like this.
nah if the people that she scammed doesn't want to press charges then who cares. it's not like they were in an abusive relationship where the church didn't want to press charges because they can't live without them, they had the money to pay it back, they had the money to support her... let that old hag go though maybe ensure that she has to repay some of the money. and slap on some "no gambling for 5 years" clause. 1 year is way to much imo, she didn't exactly hurt anybody, if anything prosecute the catholic church cause that's a scam 🥸
The judge needs to be removed from the bench. He should have recused himself from the case. He straight up admitted that he considers nuns to be "special" in regards to the law.
9:05 "They believed the good she did outweighed the bad" Having gone to a Catholic school, where one the principals who help keep me on the good path had died while dedicating her life to us, this is a supreme insult. She stole over 80 grand a year not just from "A church" or "A school". She stole it from the lives of those kids her profession is dedicated to help.
My great aunt Sister Mary Generose was a School Sister of Notre Dame for 60 years.She never would have done anything like this.In fact when she died, they sent us a box of photos.One of the photos was of a young priest, a former student of hers.Now you can see the difference in my aunt,s character and Sister Mary Margaret.Think Sister Mary Margaret and Sister Chang were girlfriends and I say that as a Catholic.
I think the church wanted the whole thing swept under the rug to get it out of the news as swiftly as possible. There was an epidemic of church scandal coverups that came to light in the early 00s
Damn so she straight up got away with it. Sure she's shunned by the community (no pun intended) but 1 year? That's wild. The ripple effect of those kids having a worse education far out weighs her punishment. It's insane how greed can corrupt so easily. Money is a powerful drug I guess.
i feel like it's pretty indicative of the kind of priorities this country's justice system takes. a bunch of children are permanently affected by a poor education directly due to this nun's actions and yet the courts decide that nuns are Special and shouldn't face even slightly proportionate punishment. she's literally fine and those kids get to be... insert speculation here.
@@HonestChuckle Not a pun. Definition of a pun is as follows: A joke exploiting the different possible meanings of a word or the fact that there are words which sound alike but have different meanings.
They kept excusing her because of her old age. She willingly choose to stay in that position 15 years past retirement age so she could steal money from them. People that are losing their mental fallacies should be allowed to stay in such a position in the first place.
I get the impression that she didn't retire for 15 years because she knew that someone else might want to do an audit of the finances. These two women lived the high-life whilst the many children over the years melted in the mid-day sun. Personally, I think the idea of nuns and priests is outdated and that those who wish to serve God should do so using a present day perspective.
@KebabMusicLtd That's a good point. I personally am against organized religion as it often twists people's beliefs into hating others or, in this case, manipulate and steal from it's own followers. They like to say church is the house of God, but if God created the universe, then isn't the all of the universe God's house?
Reminds me of my old middle school principal. I found out years later he had been embezzling money for years. He retired after the scandal and probably kept his retirement pay.
To add insult to injury the judge let her off. I don’t think old age should be an excuse for leniency. She wasn’t old when she started doing this. The judge shouldn’t have been trying this case
11:03 how is having a Catholic judge *not* a conflict of interest? That must have been brought up at some point. I know, I know, separation of church and state but still… the guy admit his faith is making it hard to make an unbiased ruling!
Judges are not asked to be impartial when determining sentencing, that's why they consider victim impact statements at that time. Judges do have to be impartial during trial, but after the verdict is decided (in this case she plead guilty so no trial was necessary), strict impartiality would work against deciding on a sentence.
He should have recused himself. From the Code of Conduct for US Judges: “A judge should respect and comply with the law and should act *at all times* in a manner that promotes public confidence in the integrity and impartiality of the judiciary.”
This is crazy!!!! Idc if she did 60 years as a nun/teacher. She definitely has been doing this for probably 30-40 years of her life. I’m so ashamed of anyone that was on her side due to her age. Get the f outta here. Over $800,000 and only one year??? Insane
I live in a poorer part of the world, but inflation isn't too bad. If a business mostly deals in cash, you would be surprised how easy cooking the books would be.
"Her actions didn't affect the quality of the education" BS. Computers and textbooks were heavily outdated. Textbooks that old were probably talking about the wonders of asbestos, and terribly outdated computers affect the ability of students to use internet for research or train in more relevant computer applications. All her years of good service? All that was a sham. She was stealing and gambling that entire time. I agree with the judge that nuns should not be seen as ordinary people - they should be seen at a higher standard. Instead the failure of a judge put on the rose-tinted goggles and saw her as someone who did no wrong and did a simple mistake because she was old and actually a good person. She and her accomplice should have been punished to the fullest extent of a law. The justice system is often one big joke.
If anything, the sentencing should be harsher for people in positions of public trust. And crimes are judged as is. There is no room to give lighter punishment because of "all the good they did".
so sickening. People are such fools. She is all remorse ..... after she got caught. Then, the appeal to emotion. ... please forgive me, boo hoo hoo. And then the church saying that the quality of education was ..... somehow..... not affected by the enormous theft of funds. Just typical Roman Catholic BS, covering their guilty ass. And did the gambling addiction also cause Sister Embezzler to buy luxury cars and go on luxury vacations to Europe with her lesbian friend?
..which is not even a christian, or even a biblical concept but a medieval fabrication by people trying to scare catholic christians into paying money to get into heaven.. No blame on the people in the pews, but this religion needs reformation
Call me crazy, but it's almost like ignoring all human desires and basing your entire existence on a religion that's literal centuries old isn't the best idea
@@maryjurisons4648My sister in christ, she was literally a nun. Do you not think the vow to be broke incentivized making use of opportunities to pretend to be rich when they came around? Or that the judge sentenced her differently because she was a nun? Being a P.O.S. is certainly not exclusive to the religious. But that's not to say religion holds no impact on one's actions. Sometimes, people use their religion to excuse terrible behaviors.
interesting how the church responded by holding the nun accountable, notifying all the parents and staff of her wrongdoings, cooperating with the feds in their investigation... but for cases where children and nuns face unspeakable abuse, it goes on for decades without being addressed at all.
The Church didn’t hold those old bats accountable. They refused to press charges, and set them up in a Catholic old age home, where they’ll be fed and nurtured until they croak. The Catholic Church NEVER holds their freaky raping priests or thieving nuns accountable - the Cardinals just shuffle their feet and shift the defectives off to other Church ventures, and hope the communities they’ve polluted forget the insults done to them and their children.
No organization should put all their trust in one person. There must be proper oversight. The children were deprived because of her greed and selfishness
The Monsignor was quick to apologize because that didn’t cost anything. The parents should sue. Unfortunately, being good Catholics and being good at holding onto stolen money, the school and local diocese will probably just declare bankruptcy.
Lost my trust and little respect. Nuns here im my country insert themselves in politics. I was studied at catholic school from elem. to college and I've seen nun there that are sp superior even if youre just sitting, they will get suspicious and scolded you. One time my former classmate was struggling to find payment for midterm examintation. She was required to make a letter of permission stated that she will payed the amount before final exam. She go into the nun's office to get signature but to our shock, the nun scolded her and after the nun put her signature she swing the letter into my classmate's face that almost hit her. I realize that moment not all nuns are "holy" as they said. They're like "little angels with horns covering in theere habbit
This was an excellent video as always, I’m also tired of the sentiment that it’s “hard to believe” someone’s capable of greed or addiction just because they’re also religious like it supersedes them being human
They were crooks at the Catholic school I went to. They always preached about how gambling was wrong, however, when they had their yearly festival, gambling was allowed and it was okay. Weekly bingo was fine too.
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A senior officer gave me great insight when I was a young private. He said, “It doesn’t matter how many atta-boys you get. One ahh-shit wipes them all out. I’m sure Dr. Shipman did some great things too. And anyone wants to challenge that the nun didn’t take a life, what about the 14 students each year who could have gotten tuition. A young person’s educational environment can change lives, sometimes it can even save them. Shout out to all the mentors from Anaheim! I owe you everything!
Some years ago, a young girl was beaten often by a nun teacher in Scotland. She was so hurt one day, she went to the police for help. I was there when the nun was in court. The judge said: it gives me great pleasure to send a brute like you to prison for....years. I cheered. 🎉🎉🎉
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Why do old people have so much leniency? Isn't this just incentive for anyone having criminal tendencies in check to just let loose when they become senior?
So what, the history of religion is the theft from parishioners. When I was 7, my Mother became very sick, I was the 3rd of 4 children, my Dads relatives could care for the oldest and youngest, but my Dad put us in care of the Church “home” as “respite” while my Mother recovered. My sister and I were in that place for nearly 6 months. During that time my Father regularly gave us pocket money. The staff insisted that we not hold money, that staff would “hold it for you”. One day I asked for some of the money to take on an outing, to be told “but that was donations and put in the plate each Sunday”. The next weekend my sister and I told our Father what we had been told. My Father, not a loud man, kicked in the door of the Heads office and reamed him and told him either the money was returned or there would be an Information laid with the Police. The money was returned.
I pass three catholic churches everyday and the parking lots are ALWAYS empty, no matter what day it is. During service or mass...empty. They hurt our children and now we hate them. WOW, what a bunch of morons. They really thought we wouldn't believe our kids!
What a moron of a statement, and very ignorant in content! Stupid to make a general statement, assuming all Catholics are the same. That would be like assuming you are as much an idiot as she is, because you are a human!
I've always wonders what the financial situation is like for nuns, as far as what they can buy themselves and how they go about getting it, if they aren't allowed to handle their own money. I can't imagine being an adult and living somewhere where you have to be completely financially dependent on someone else like a kid. I wonder how much say they have over what they even get to eat every day, if they're not the one doing the budgeting and grocery shopping. Do they at least get a small allowance and access to vehicles so they can go out on their own to buy tampons when they need them? I know it's wrong, but in a way, I can kind of understand what this woman did, if she'd reached a point where she stopped believing in Catholicism years earlier and was just sick of the control, but to old to go anywhere else and get a job.
In most orders, the community buys personal supplies for the sisters. Their salary goes to support the community, so that is not theirs to spend. Some communities give the sisters a small stipend each month, but usually that is not very much. Obviously, this sister wanted more, and abused the school system to get what she wanted.
The judge really blew this. While much more than year wouldn't really do much, to say you don't judge someone for the worst thing they've done --- isn't that the case in many if not most criminal trials?
As a Catholic, I believe in forgiveness, but that doesn't supercede justice. And justice was not served in this case. Morally, as a nun, she ought to be held to a higher standard not be let off the hook.
The judge felt conflicted because of his Roman Catholic upbringing??? And felt comfortable enough to acknowledge that? Imagine if a judge said “You’re Muslim, I’m Muslim, I think we can work something out.” 🙄 Funny how ‘separation of church and state’ never seems to apply to Christianity
Catholics are not Christian, they don't even believe half of the same things that Christians do. So I don't know what this has to do with christianity, Catholics are not christians. Not even close.
I love how you mention Temecula as one of her "fancy getaway spots." I'm from that area, Temecula has a bunch of bars, a casino, and vineyards. It's not fancy. Lol
They act like she only did this once and that her addiction wasn’t born of theft. To argue that the quality of education wasn’t affected is bonkers when everything at the school was massively out of date.
My catholic school in Detroit was literally the exact same story. Also the principal. We still had useless apple IIe computers when every other school was online. I learned nothing and it seriously affected my life. The school was a free for all that scared people. The last year it was open my 7th grade class had 7 official teachers and countless subs in between. You would think we would have been owed something considering tuition but no
She was a strict principal, and continued to lie for 20 years. Also I don’t know many friends who share a town house together, live together for 20 yrs, go on frequent trips together, and retire together? Seems like another “catholic sin”. She should’ve gotten the two years. Even two years is too small. She robbed those kids. What about spending your tuition money and your kids don’t get new books and computers. Instead it’s for the principle to party
Biblically speaking there is no such thing as a ''nun'', kneeling before man made statues, lighting candles to pray, calling a priest father [that is forbidden in scripture] infant baptism, purgatory or praying for the recently departed. I could go on.
The justifications to ease her punishments make no sense. "She was a nun!" Yes, and she leveraged that status to cover for her lies! "She did so much good for the school!" Yes, and she used her status as head of the school to create fundraisers that she could rob. "The children's education didn't suffer!" But they were using out of date resources that gave them a poorer quality of education and then the kids and the families spent time, effort, and money to fix that and all of those inputs were then stolen - a total waste. "She's so elderly and can't think straight." She thought straight enough to be a head of school and was clever enough to defraud it. The only reason that she is now elderly is that she got away with abusing her position for so long and when the church found out they spend more time trying to cover it up and lie to parents before being forced in front of the courts. Yes, the Catholic Church teaches forgiveness, but the person must be honest about their sins, ask for forgivenss and must make amends (which includes facing up to consequences). They can't just mutter 'sorry' and then scuttle off never to be heard from again while others clean up the mess.
I can't believe they kept saying that none of this had damaged the children, absolutely ridiculous. If it was up to me she would be strapped to a penitence engine and thrown into the eye of terror.
Not that it excuses what she did but public school teachers routinely do things that are FAR more harmful to kids. They literally turn a blind eye to kids getting abused and assaulted and ignore children BEGGING for help and just call it "bullying" even though they are mandated reporters of abuse.
Just a different perspective on this topic. I taught in a very terrible private catholic school at one point too. The fact is that most non-urban remaining private catholic schools are run by very cruel people. Case in point: The fact that no one said anything after someone won all those times probably indicates a really screwed social situation was going on. So, maybe she had a fuck it moment as well or just matched the energy? I know this goes against reading the room but yeah. Point is put on someone else's shoes first before judging.
ah the good old line "you can compensate smth bad with smth good". I hate that line, because it means that you could literally excuse everything if you just do a good deed. It is quite rich for ppl to support even if she stole away options for the future of the children. all the money she wasted is gone. Sadly I know a case where someone developed a gambling habit out of depression since her son died. think she also might have told me as the first person, but I thought she was joking at that time.
And what do we learn from the Bible? Forgiveness is found in repentance and turning to Christ Jesus, not our good works. Plus, that's all good that she helped a lot of students, but how does God feel for those shaken in faith due to her sin?
@@Bidenlost2020 nah you are usually forgiven regardless of what you do. ofc that's no incentive to be a criminal. I am a christian, but a protestant and a non-believer so I pretty much agree that the bible is just a book and nothin else. I also think of the everything past death as smth we have no control over meaning that ppl forgive simply because they want to. But at the same time it is a choice to be unforgiving.
@@Seriousbomb54 Well, the Bible is God's word that he leaves for us. Sure it's a book, the old timers used manuscripts. Nonetheless, we need God's word so we can stand on the inherent infallible (will always stand the test of time) truths. Yes, Jesus forgave our sins when he died on the cross. And yes, forgiving our brothers and sisters is a choice, but one God call us to.
Sorry, she knew what she was doing. She didn’t honor her spiritual or earthy responsibilities so she should have been jailed by the rest of us. She’ll probably die before she’s able to pay back that money. And SHAME ON HER for letting that school fall apart…old textbooks and computers!!
"I can't judge a person for the worst thing they've done"
That is bonkers. Can you imagine a judge echoing that sentiment in an assault trial? gross gross gross
It's your fucking job to judge people on the facts of the case. It's in your title!!
Wonder if he would have the same energy with other religious/atheist people 🤔
a school shooting trial, a mass shooting trial, it's sad but it's known to happen since you don't need a high IQ in America to be a judge, just know the right people.
Strange thing to say in court, but it’s relatively fair to not pin someone’s being when at their worst
At their worst for 20 years lmao
A judge who said "I do not look at nuns as ordinary people..." doesn't sit well with me. Justice is supposed to be blind, and here is a judge admitting that he can not be impartial when it comes to a case that involves a nun. Maybe someone who is more knowledgeable in this case can explain why there wasn't push back from the community after he admitted to this.
You mean " not supposed to be blind"?
@@numbuh1507 no, it really means blind for an unbiased judgement.
Just look at Lady Justice.
@@numbuh1507 no, I do mean "justice is supposed to be blind". The figure that is typically used for justice is a woman holding a balanced scale in one hand and a sword in the other. She is also blindfolded. Which is where the idea that "justice should be blind" comes from. If the judge views nuns differently from an average citizen then that judge isn't "blind" or impartial to those who may stand before him.
I agree completely.
Good point! Of course we know in reality this isn’t the case since wealthier people can afford better litigation, but I’ve never heard of a judge flat out admitting it like this.
She got a reprieve for all her years as a nun, but she was using that position to scam money the whole time. That doesn't make sense.
Sadly it does to people who are easily fooled by religious people.
It's fine because God forgave her 🙄
@@snooganslestat2030. What an ignorant comment! Has nothing to do with religion, but rather with a person who made bad choices!
@@maryjurisons4648 Not ignorant, accurate.
Not my problem if people want to think those of faith are superior.
@@maryjurisons4648 Id say your comment sounds naive.
The justice system is broken. This woman got away with it because she was a nun. That judge should be fired.
& you just know the two women became nuns specifically as a part of their con.
She got away with it because she's a w*man, not a nun. W*men get far more leniency, which is usually a good thing.
Christian privilege on display.
So, if you ever wanna commit a crime, do it as a nun? Got it.
Right? 😂 Apparently that's the "lesson" here!
Society can't be seen to judge people who serve it's interests otherwise no one would serve societie's interests. And by interests I mean narrative
Pathetic….this “nun” should’ve been left to rot in prison…
Nun? More like NONE!
nah if the people that she scammed doesn't want to press charges then who cares.
it's not like they were in an abusive relationship where the church didn't want to press charges because they can't live without them, they had the money to pay it back, they had the money to support her... let that old hag go though maybe ensure that she has to repay some of the money.
and slap on some "no gambling for 5 years" clause.
1 year is way to much imo, she didn't exactly hurt anybody, if anything prosecute the catholic church cause that's a scam 🥸
"We must forgive and try to understand her." Fine, as long as she is in women's prison like the rest of us would be.
The judge needs to be removed from the bench. He should have recused himself from the case. He straight up admitted that he considers nuns to be "special" in regards to the law.
Isn't that the same as everyone who believe in that? This isn't the worse thing a Catholic nun ever got away with doing...
9:05 "They believed the good she did outweighed the bad"
Having gone to a Catholic school, where one the principals who help keep me on the good path had died while dedicating her life to us, this is a supreme insult. She stole over 80 grand a year not just from "A church" or "A school". She stole it from the lives of those kids her profession is dedicated to help.
My great aunt Sister Mary Generose was a School Sister of Notre Dame for 60 years.She never would have done anything like this.In fact when she died, they sent us a box of photos.One of the photos was of a young priest, a former student of hers.Now you can see the difference in my aunt,s character and Sister Mary Margaret.Think Sister Mary Margaret and Sister Chang were girlfriends and I say that as a Catholic.
I think the church wanted the whole thing swept under the rug to get it out of the news as swiftly as possible. There was an epidemic of church scandal coverups that came to light in the early 00s
It depends on how she did at the school. We'd have to get anecdotes from students and staff. $80K over many years is honestly not that much.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5vit was over $800,000 in the span of 10 years.
To be fair, the woman was 80 years old.
Damn so she straight up got away with it. Sure she's shunned by the community (no pun intended) but 1 year? That's wild. The ripple effect of those kids having a worse education far out weighs her punishment. It's insane how greed can corrupt so easily. Money is a powerful drug I guess.
i feel like it's pretty indicative of the kind of priorities this country's justice system takes. a bunch of children are permanently affected by a poor education directly due to this nun's actions and yet the courts decide that nuns are Special and shouldn't face even slightly proportionate punishment.
she's literally fine and those kids get to be... insert speculation here.
How is “shunned” a pun in this context?
@@talentkid234 shunned sounds like nun
@@HonestChuckle Not a pun. Definition of a pun is as follows: A joke exploiting the different possible meanings of a word or the fact that there are words which sound alike but have different meanings.
What pun
How can the judge call himself a judge being impartial
They kept excusing her because of her old age. She willingly choose to stay in that position 15 years past retirement age so she could steal money from them. People that are losing their mental fallacies should be allowed to stay in such a position in the first place.
“losing their mental fallacies…” 😂😂😂
Faculties
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*shouldn't
I get the impression that she didn't retire for 15 years because she knew that someone else might want to do an audit of the finances. These two women lived the high-life whilst the many children over the years melted in the mid-day sun. Personally, I think the idea of nuns and priests is outdated and that those who wish to serve God should do so using a present day perspective.
@KebabMusicLtd That's a good point. I personally am against organized religion as it often twists people's beliefs into hating others or, in this case, manipulate and steal from it's own followers. They like to say church is the house of God, but if God created the universe, then isn't the all of the universe God's house?
Reminds me of my old middle school principal. I found out years later he had been embezzling money for years. He retired after the scandal and probably kept his retirement pay.
Same here, but high school.
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If the judge can't judge a nun just like any other person then he shouldn't be a judge.
I don’t know about you but what also concerns me is that they have a Monsignor named Michael Meyers at the school.
Yup,she coulda run but ole michael meyers woulda caught her anyway.
"I can't judge a person for the worst thing they've done" is literally admitting that you're not capable of being a judge.
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To add insult to injury the judge let her off. I don’t think old age should be an excuse for leniency. She wasn’t old when she started doing this. The judge shouldn’t have been trying this case
Maybe I heard wrong, but I thought the podcaster said she got a one year and one day sentence.
11:03 how is having a Catholic judge *not* a conflict of interest? That must have been brought up at some point. I know, I know, separation of church and state but still… the guy admit his faith is making it hard to make an unbiased ruling!
Judges are not asked to be impartial when determining sentencing, that's why they consider victim impact statements at that time. Judges do have to be impartial during trial, but after the verdict is decided (in this case she plead guilty so no trial was necessary), strict impartiality would work against deciding on a sentence.
He should have recused himself. From the Code of Conduct for US Judges: “A judge should respect and comply with the law and should act *at all times* in a manner that promotes public confidence in the integrity and impartiality of the judiciary.”
@@smittywjmj even if they're not "technically required" to be impartial during sentencing they absolutely should be.
This is crazy!!!! Idc if she did 60 years as a nun/teacher. She definitely has been doing this for probably 30-40 years of her life. I’m so ashamed of anyone that was on her side due to her age. Get the f outta here. Over $800,000 and only one year??? Insane
How on EARTH did she think she wouldn't get caught?
I live in a poorer part of the world, but inflation isn't too bad. If a business mostly deals in cash, you would be surprised how easy cooking the books would be.
It's the arrogance of the Catholic church. I have seen some shady things as a Catholic school student.
i mean, she made it to 70 without getting caught, and her accomplice was let go
"Her actions didn't affect the quality of the education"
BS. Computers and textbooks were heavily outdated. Textbooks that old were probably talking about the wonders of asbestos, and terribly outdated computers affect the ability of students to use internet for research or train in more relevant computer applications.
All her years of good service? All that was a sham. She was stealing and gambling that entire time. I agree with the judge that nuns should not be seen as ordinary people - they should be seen at a higher standard. Instead the failure of a judge put on the rose-tinted goggles and saw her as someone who did no wrong and did a simple mistake because she was old and actually a good person.
She and her accomplice should have been punished to the fullest extent of a law. The justice system is often one big joke.
If anything, the sentencing should be harsher for people in positions of public trust. And crimes are judged as is. There is no room to give lighter punishment because of "all the good they did".
No, justice should be blind
@@WhiteboykunThat's what the law says, but I personally don't mind the idea that betraying public trust should come with harsher penalties.
so sickening. People are such fools. She is all remorse ..... after she got caught. Then, the appeal to emotion. ... please forgive me, boo hoo hoo. And then the church saying that the quality of education was ..... somehow..... not affected by the enormous theft of funds. Just typical Roman Catholic BS, covering their guilty ass. And did the gambling addiction also cause Sister Embezzler to buy luxury cars and go on luxury vacations to Europe with her lesbian friend?
"Sister Embezzler" 😂😂😂😂
This seems like a really good way to make sure you get sent straight to the fourth circle of Hell when you die.
..which is not even a christian, or even a biblical concept but a medieval fabrication by people trying to scare catholic christians into paying money to get into heaven.. No blame on the people in the pews, but this religion needs reformation
Are you telling me someone's faith doesn't make them a good person?!
Fearing Eternal Damnation just to be a good person means your not a good person
Call me crazy, but it's almost like ignoring all human desires and basing your entire existence on a religion that's literal centuries old isn't the best idea
What an ignorant comment! This has nothing to do with religion or faith, but rather about a person making bad choices.
@@maryjurisons4648My sister in christ, she was literally a nun. Do you not think the vow to be broke incentivized making use of opportunities to pretend to be rich when they came around? Or that the judge sentenced her differently because she was a nun?
Being a P.O.S. is certainly not exclusive to the religious. But that's not to say religion holds no impact on one's actions. Sometimes, people use their religion to excuse terrible behaviors.
I love the weird, niche subject matter. Keep it up amglimpse ❤️
I don't remember making this comment but hey, I'm right.
interesting how the church responded by holding the nun accountable, notifying all the parents and staff of her wrongdoings, cooperating with the feds in their investigation... but for cases where children and nuns face unspeakable abuse, it goes on for decades without being addressed at all.
The Church didn’t hold those old bats accountable. They refused to press charges, and set them up in a Catholic old age home, where they’ll be fed and nurtured until they croak.
The Catholic Church NEVER holds their freaky raping priests or thieving nuns accountable - the Cardinals just shuffle their feet and shift the defectives off to other Church ventures, and hope the communities they’ve polluted forget the insults done to them and their children.
Interesting how Anti-Catholic bigotry has no bounds. Rise above your unspeakable prejudice!
No organization should put all their trust in one person. There must be proper oversight. The children were deprived because of her greed and selfishness
This is a shocking crime committed by aunts for their own greed. Great research and reporting.
She was not a nun. She was a criminal.
You can be both
keep going man, your content is really well produced and always on different topics i had no idea about
The Monsignor was quick to apologize because that didn’t cost anything. The parents should sue. Unfortunately, being good Catholics and being good at holding onto stolen money, the school and local diocese will probably just declare bankruptcy.
Lost my trust and little respect. Nuns here im my country insert themselves in politics. I was studied at catholic school from elem. to college and I've seen nun there that are sp superior even if youre just sitting, they will get suspicious and scolded you.
One time my former classmate was struggling to find payment for midterm examintation. She was required to make a letter of permission stated that she will payed the amount before final exam. She go into the nun's office to get signature but to our shock, the nun scolded her and after the nun put her signature she swing the letter into my classmate's face that almost hit her. I realize that moment not all nuns are "holy" as they said. They're like "little angels with horns covering in theere habbit
Philippines?
The man with the great voice, happy to see an upload from you.
I thought the boring monotone voice.
@@silverranger3532 personally I like listening to it :) helps me fall asleep sometimes (in a good way, lol)
This was an excellent video as always, I’m also tired of the sentiment that it’s “hard to believe” someone’s capable of greed or addiction just because they’re also religious like it supersedes them being human
And that’s not a defense of her. It’s an offense against religion and the ridiculous power Christianity has
Even Jesus had to deal with Judas. A thief, a liar and the ultimate traitor.
Of course there's Nun jail because, why not?! Oh man, some of these churches have gone mafia style.
Only recently discovered this channel and absolutely loving the content!
Stunned it doesn't have more subscribers
Cool that the judge was openly biased and not removed from the case. Nice system.
I had a nun for a teacher, she was very ancient though. This was in the 1970s. She was very mean.
Nuns be crazy yo.
They were crooks at the Catholic school I went to. They always preached about how gambling was wrong, however, when they had their yearly festival, gambling was allowed and it was okay. Weekly bingo was fine too.
Here in Australia, Catholic Church-affiliated organisations collect millions in revenue from poker machines in their clubs.
The judge should have recused himself ffs.
and people wonder why nobody likes religion
Just in time for me break! Yess! Love your stuff, dude
Just found & subscribed to your channel and am currently binge-watching your videos! I love them & also love how you compile these summaries, please keep it up 😊
I’ve watched all your videos back to back they’re so addictive
comment for the algorithm because this channel is great and your episodes are well edited, researched, and on obscure topics
Seems pretty on point for the Catholic Church to claim that children weren't harmed by their negligence
EXACTLY. This case is the embodiment of the "Look the other way" mentality that allowed decades of abuse to go unchecked.
Am I the only one thinking Mary and Lonna had more than just a gambling partnership? 🤨
it's the matching volvos for me
@@AnimeOjou right?!
I thought so too😭
A senior officer gave me great insight when I was a young private. He said, “It doesn’t matter how many atta-boys you get. One ahh-shit wipes them all out.
I’m sure Dr. Shipman did some great things too.
And anyone wants to challenge that the nun didn’t take a life, what about the 14 students each year who could have gotten tuition. A young person’s educational environment can change lives, sometimes it can even save them.
Shout out to all the mentors from Anaheim! I owe you everything!
To preach to others what’s right and wrong and steal from the same people, is a double sin in my eyes!!! Terrible!!! 😡😡😡
The judge and her should share the same jail cell.
Some years ago, a young girl was beaten often by a nun teacher in Scotland. She was so hurt one day, she went to the police for help. I was there when the nun was in court. The judge said: it gives me great pleasure to send a brute like you to prison for....years.
I cheered. 🎉🎉🎉
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Why do old people have so much leniency? Isn't this just incentive for anyone having criminal tendencies in check to just let loose when they become senior?
Subbed. Keep up the amazing woek
Nuns, priest, pastors are all human beings. Don't put them on pedastels.
Yes sir. Perfect Sunday watch while I'm all cozy.
WOW???? The justice system is so fucked
So what, the history of religion is the theft from parishioners. When I was 7, my Mother became very sick, I was the 3rd of 4 children, my Dads relatives could care for the oldest and youngest, but my Dad put us in care of the Church “home” as “respite” while my Mother recovered. My sister and I were in that place for nearly 6 months. During that time my Father regularly gave us pocket money. The staff insisted that we not hold money, that staff would “hold it for you”. One day I asked for some of the money to take on an outing, to be told “but that was donations and put in the plate each Sunday”. The next weekend my sister and I told our Father what we had been told. My Father, not a loud man, kicked in the door of the Heads office and reamed him and told him either the money was returned or there would be an Information laid with the Police. The money was returned.
If a Judge admits a bias, that Judge is supposed to recuse themselves! WTF!
I pass three catholic churches everyday and the parking lots are ALWAYS empty, no matter what day it is. During service or mass...empty. They hurt our children and now we hate them. WOW, what a bunch of morons. They really thought we wouldn't believe our kids!
What a moron of a statement, and very ignorant in content! Stupid to make a general statement, assuming all Catholics are the same. That would be like assuming you are as much an idiot as she is, because you are a human!
I've always wonders what the financial situation is like for nuns, as far as what they can buy themselves and how they go about getting it, if they aren't allowed to handle their own money. I can't imagine being an adult and living somewhere where you have to be completely financially dependent on someone else like a kid. I wonder how much say they have over what they even get to eat every day, if they're not the one doing the budgeting and grocery shopping. Do they at least get a small allowance and access to vehicles so they can go out on their own to buy tampons when they need them? I know it's wrong, but in a way, I can kind of understand what this woman did, if she'd reached a point where she stopped believing in Catholicism years earlier and was just sick of the control, but to old to go anywhere else and get a job.
In most orders, the community buys personal supplies for the sisters. Their salary goes to support the community, so that is not theirs to spend. Some communities give the sisters a small stipend each month, but usually that is not very much. Obviously, this sister wanted more, and abused the school system to get what she wanted.
This woman wasn't a true nun.
There is a special part of hell for people like that!!!!!! What ever happened to the commandment, "Thou shalt not steal"???
They need to give these nuns an annual salary. How can they not pay them wages ? That is not right.
Have to say, claiming to be a hard ass Catholic and not at least wearing part of a habit would strike me as odd.
She had a habit alright.
These days few nuns wear the habit
@@paulorocky In Europe they do! In Germany where I 'm living never saw a nun without a habit!
The judge really blew this. While much more than year wouldn't really do much, to say you don't judge someone for the worst thing they've done --- isn't that the case in many if not most criminal trials?
I don’t know how I haven’t found this channel sooner
The lawyer partly blamed a gambling addiction, fair enough, but he other exuse, about "ten years," she knew better at the start of those 10 years.
As a Catholic, I believe in forgiveness, but that doesn't supercede justice. And justice was not served in this case. Morally, as a nun, she ought to be held to a higher standard not be let off the hook.
I was raised Catholic. The whole church is rotten to the core.
The judge felt conflicted because of his Roman Catholic upbringing??? And felt comfortable enough to acknowledge that? Imagine if a judge said “You’re Muslim, I’m Muslim, I think we can work something out.” 🙄 Funny how ‘separation of church and state’ never seems to apply to Christianity
Catholics are not Christian, they don't even believe half of the same things that Christians do. So I don't know what this has to do with christianity, Catholics are not christians. Not even close.
I love how you mention Temecula as one of her "fancy getaway spots." I'm from that area, Temecula has a bunch of bars, a casino, and vineyards. It's not fancy. Lol
The brazen hubris of Sister Mary Margaret is legendary. The wanton stealing and selfishness is from another dimension.
They act like she only did this once and that her addiction wasn’t born of theft. To argue that the quality of education wasn’t affected is bonkers when everything at the school was massively out of date.
It would be Michael Myers
My catholic school in Detroit was literally the exact same story. Also the principal. We still had useless apple IIe computers when every other school was online. I learned nothing and it seriously affected my life. The school was a free for all that scared people. The last year it was open my 7th grade class had 7 official teachers and countless subs in between. You would think we would have been owed something considering tuition but no
That judge should've been removed. He very clearly confessed his conflict of interest
I would not mess with a monsignor named michael meyers
She was a strict principal, and continued to lie for 20 years. Also I don’t know many friends who share a town house together, live together for 20 yrs, go on frequent trips together, and retire together? Seems like another “catholic sin”. She should’ve gotten the two years. Even two years is too small. She robbed those kids. What about spending your tuition money and your kids don’t get new books and computers. Instead it’s for the principle to party
Biblically speaking there is no such thing as a ''nun'', kneeling before man made statues, lighting candles to pray, calling a priest father [that is forbidden in scripture] infant baptism, purgatory or praying for the recently departed. I could go on.
THIS IS TOTAL NUNSENSE.
Nuns have the same weaknesses as the rest of us. After-aol, they're human too.
The justifications to ease her punishments make no sense. "She was a nun!" Yes, and she leveraged that status to cover for her lies! "She did so much good for the school!" Yes, and she used her status as head of the school to create fundraisers that she could rob. "The children's education didn't suffer!" But they were using out of date resources that gave them a poorer quality of education and then the kids and the families spent time, effort, and money to fix that and all of those inputs were then stolen - a total waste. "She's so elderly and can't think straight." She thought straight enough to be a head of school and was clever enough to defraud it. The only reason that she is now elderly is that she got away with abusing her position for so long and when the church found out they spend more time trying to cover it up and lie to parents before being forced in front of the courts. Yes, the Catholic Church teaches forgiveness, but the person must be honest about their sins, ask for forgivenss and must make amends (which includes facing up to consequences). They can't just mutter 'sorry' and then scuttle off never to be heard from again while others clean up the mess.
Well said
I can't believe they kept saying that none of this had damaged the children, absolutely ridiculous. If it was up to me she would be strapped to a penitence engine and thrown into the eye of terror.
Not that it excuses what she did but public school teachers routinely do things that are FAR more harmful to kids. They literally turn a blind eye to kids getting abused and assaulted and ignore children BEGGING for help and just call it "bullying" even though they are mandated reporters of abuse.
That court case is a good lesson in separation of church and state. Complete and utter mistrial on grounds of religious influence.
Just a different perspective on this topic. I taught in a very terrible private catholic school at one point too. The fact is that most non-urban remaining private catholic schools are run by very cruel people. Case in point: The fact that no one said anything after someone won all those times probably indicates a really screwed social situation was going on. So, maybe she had a fuck it moment as well or just matched the energy?
I know this goes against reading the room but yeah. Point is put on someone else's shoes first before judging.
ah the good old line "you can compensate smth bad with smth good". I hate that line, because it means that you could literally excuse everything if you just do a good deed. It is quite rich for ppl to support even if she stole away options for the future of the children. all the money she wasted is gone. Sadly I know a case where someone developed a gambling habit out of depression since her son died. think she also might have told me as the first person, but I thought she was joking at that time.
And what do we learn from the Bible? Forgiveness is found in repentance and turning to Christ Jesus, not our good works. Plus, that's all good that she helped a lot of students, but how does God feel for those shaken in faith due to her sin?
@@Bidenlost2020 nah you are usually forgiven regardless of what you do. ofc that's no incentive to be a criminal. I am a christian, but a protestant and a non-believer so I pretty much agree that the bible is just a book and nothin else. I also think of the everything past death as smth we have no control over meaning that ppl forgive simply because they want to. But at the same time it is a choice to be unforgiving.
@@Seriousbomb54 Well, the Bible is God's word that he leaves for us. Sure it's a book, the old timers used manuscripts. Nonetheless, we need God's word so we can stand on the inherent infallible (will always stand the test of time) truths. Yes, Jesus forgave our sins when he died on the cross. And yes, forgiving our brothers and sisters is a choice, but one God call us to.
Mother Theresa? Where did all the money go?
The nun was a thief and the priest was a liar.
Mary needs to be under the jail
Sorry, she knew what she was doing. She didn’t honor her spiritual or earthy responsibilities so she should have been jailed by the rest of us. She’ll probably die before she’s able to pay back that money. And SHAME ON HER for letting that school fall apart…old textbooks and computers!!
Anyone who can't consider people and situations objectively, apart from their own personal biases, is unfit to be a judge.
Same judge has probably condemned many others to a slow death for far more paltry crimes. Outrageous.
Ahh right up the street from my home 😮
From the title, I expected this to be about mother theresa!
not remorseful till she got caught.
Stealing is pretty bad, stealing from a church seems worse, but stealing from elementary school kids you're quite the bad person