Testing Resin 3D Printing Cleaning Alternatives

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  • Testing out alternative cleaning solutions beyond isopropyl IPA
    Link to Test Files ➜
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  • @kellyj5610
    @kellyj5610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +358

    FYI on the Simple Green. We use that on submarines when cleaning because it has no atmosphere contaminants or other contaminants that can cause the crew any health issues in enclosed spaces (like a submarine under water) for months on end. We also use ISP for some specific equipment cleaning...but we only use metal containers because the alcohol can break down the plastic from a container and suspend it in the solution and you end up coating the material your trying to clean with a microscopic film of plastic...which can build up over time and end up ruining some very expensive items.

    • @Balassvar
      @Balassvar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Simple Green and a Mop. Every Submariners worst friend.

    • @MrNybios
      @MrNybios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The only polymers that can by partly dissolved by alcohols are ABS, CAB and Acrylic.
      PE-HD, in which 99.9999% of alcohol is stored doesn't dissolve any polymer for many years.

    • @luckkibehemoth6626
      @luckkibehemoth6626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Balassvar what mop did you get? All I got was a few chem wipes and a fox tail.

    • @CaedenV
      @CaedenV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Also with simple green is that it is crazy potent. You can dilute that stuff a lot before it stops being effective. And you can buy larger containers than that for about the same price.

    • @flashfire157
      @flashfire157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome comment! Made up my mind for me

  • @grand_master_glass
    @grand_master_glass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    This video has never been more relative with the current iso shortage. Thank you!

    • @granthamlin8126
      @granthamlin8126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yep! That's why I'm here.

    • @broderp
      @broderp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yup. Just ordered my printer, can't find ISO anywhere. I did find Simple Green - I got 344 oz (2 gal, 88 oz.) for $19.06 and free shipping. That should last a while. (I hope)

    • @simonduddy2644
      @simonduddy2644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@broderp if your prints are small you can fill a smaller beaker with your cleaner, then put water in your bath and stand the beaker in the water - the water is needed to help the vibrations transfer to the beaker :)

    • @labpartners3490
      @labpartners3490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Does you know if it has to be that specific mr clean product? I can only find multipurpose mr clean but the antibacterial he is using is nowhere to be found.

    • @prophet89
      @prophet89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I just ordered my first printer and thought "oh crap, i won't be able to find alcohol." One google later here i am.

  • @BLBlackDragon
    @BLBlackDragon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Don't sell yourself short. You put together a solid comparison test, eliminating as many variables as you could. Keep up the good work.

  • @MichaelPavlovich
    @MichaelPavlovich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks so much for these videos - I'm just about to plug in my first 3D printer, have gotten lots of tips from veteran 3D print folk, and I'm already a little overwhelmed - it's SO helpful to see the process in action along with the possible choices and results! You've saved me a ton of time and I haven't even started yet - MUCH appreciated!!!

    • @TimTinhTran
      @TimTinhTran ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey its Michael Pavlovich! The zbrush mentor to us all lol. Funny place to tell ya, but as a professional 3D artist, I still go to your videos regularly for help. Thanks for all the help man! To all the folks reading this, if you wanna learn zbrush, this the man right here!

  • @ammomike5070
    @ammomike5070 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Thank you for testing! If you want to reuse your cleaners put them into your curing station. After a few minutes all the liquid resin in the cleaner will solidify and sinks to the bottom of the bottle. Tested it with IPA. Have an nice day!

    • @UncleJessy
      @UncleJessy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Oh dang. I will have to give that a go.

    • @djrobwilliam1673
      @djrobwilliam1673 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Coffee filters are commonly 20 microns as well and they will remove a lot of the "powdered" material from the Ipa. Grab a few two liter bottles or 3D print some funnels and you can rather quickly assemble a 3 stage IPA filter/recycling system. @@UncleJessy

    • @robertallenpayne
      @robertallenpayne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ha! I should read more before I leave a comment. I just asked about that. That's how we do it at work too, but have fancy filters there which are hard to duplicate at home.

    • @S6E9X6Y9
      @S6E9X6Y9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Allen Payne did you guys buy them or make them yourself at work? At my job we have SLA and DLP printers and I made a really ghetto system that seems to work to an extent. I basically wait for the alcohol to settle and the resin to sit at the bottom. Then I filter the alcohol with some strainers with a paper mesh to cover the surface. I do this on top of a brida filter but we print so much that we clogged it right away

    • @ericgonzalez3324
      @ericgonzalez3324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep I do this too, works well

  • @MorganScott82
    @MorganScott82 5 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    RZ masks do not filter vapors, just particulates and are providing you very limited protection from any resin or cleaning agent fumes. Something like a 3M respirator rated for organic vapors would be recommended.

    • @godholio
      @godholio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're also pretty cheap!

    • @ArcheanCanadian1983
      @ArcheanCanadian1983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      as a chemical compounder, I second the organic vapor filter option. 👍

    • @robertallenpayne
      @robertallenpayne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When I bought my first resin printer, in the box I found a surgical mask. And the instructions said to make sure to wear the mask when working with the resin. Straight up! A surgical mask. When I go to the doctor they have a sign as you come into the waiting room. It says, “If you have a cold, the flu, or some other issue that causes you to cough or sneeze, then please take and wear a mask for the health of other patients and our staff.” They provide that same surgical mask that was shipped with my printer. I asked the doctor about it. And she told me that those types of masks ONLY stop germs from the people WEARING the mask. Anything floating in the air already will simply take the path of least resistance AROUND the mask and into your nose, mouth and lungs. So all these folks you see wearing these masks at airports are not protecting themselves. And if they aren’t able to protect themselves from germs, that mask SURE won’t protect them from VOCs and HAPs. If you are concerned about the fumes, then read the SDS and take appropriate action. The CDC states, “Respirators should only be used when engineering control systems are not feasible. Engineering control systems, such as adequate ventilation or scrubbing of contaminants, are the preferred control methods for reducing worker exposures.” So honestly, if you are worried about your health, don’t use resin printers unless you are willing to put in forced air ventilation. It’s what I did. It was easy. And pretty cheap. And now I’m fume free and don’t need to worry about respirators.

    • @velocelt
      @velocelt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Partially correct. RZ Mask makes organic vapor filters for the their masks. You can either have masks that only filter particulates, or particulates and organic vapors/paints/solvents, etc. I own both types of mask RZ as well as dual cartridge respirators (3M style), and I find the RZ mask with the vapor filter to be the easiest to use, but if I'm going to do something prolonged and nasty I'll get out the dual cartridge respirator as I feel it is slightly more secure and filters better overall.

    • @operator8014
      @operator8014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's okay, he doesn't use it anyways. He just says he does so people can't cry about his safety problems.

  • @jsandra860
    @jsandra860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Pssht ultrasonic cleaner....... I just put them in a pickle container and then on top of the washing machine🤪

    • @AquaticSCP
      @AquaticSCP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AK 907 just put them IN the dish washer

    • @MrRoderickweise
      @MrRoderickweise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OMG This comment is GOLD!

    • @Trueflights
      @Trueflights 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AquaticSCP dishwasher water is far too hot and will likely melt and warp your prints though. Not to mention that you would need to be using a water washable resin and also risk contaminating anything else you put in the machine with it.

  • @DisgruntledPigumon
    @DisgruntledPigumon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Just a heads up. Isopropanol is a combination of the words Isopropyl and alcohol. There's no such thing as Isopropanol alcohol. 😃

    • @truantray
      @truantray 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There is literally no chemistry in this video.

    • @alexbowlen6345
      @alexbowlen6345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@truantray true, but he says 'isopropanol alcohol' while the bottle is sitting there and clearly says 'Isopropyl alcohol' and it's driving me up the wall.

    • @NoTimeForThatNow
      @NoTimeForThatNow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve noticed a lot of YT hosts say it that way. Always wonder why when it clearly says different on the bottle. Maybe their science teachers in high school learned to say it that way in a different time?

    • @cbbgenki4315
      @cbbgenki4315 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Geez a bunch of nerds... but you are correct....

    • @Bitplanebrother
      @Bitplanebrother 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      just say 2-propanol ;)

  • @bipolarchemist
    @bipolarchemist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Interesting video. You don't know how happy I was to see you address the respiratory issues with resins as I think that is a far bigger issue than the resin itself. I am a polymer chemist so I may be a bit jaded, but methacrylates are noxious and it takes far less of a substance to affect you through smell(in most cases) than it does through skin contact. But on that note, make sure you are using a F1 or F3 filter as those are designed to handle chemical and organic vapors as well as dust and fine particulates.
    I would also wipe down any and everything you work with while wearing gloves with one of the alternative cleaning solutions you tested(or IPA) to avoid any chance for potential cross contamination. Excellent video and I will probably move to any of those non-IPA cleaners, especially if you are going to use an ultrasonic bath as they are mostly water with 'soap' so there should be no chance of any vapors igniting anything anywhere.

  • @susinator
    @susinator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to work for a cleaning company, we had a contract with a chain of clinics, and they loved it when we used that Mr Clean cleaner for their floors. It's been a long time since I've worked for them, and I still buy and use that cleaner for my floors. The smell is heavenly.

  • @Botwire
    @Botwire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video. Thanks for taking the time to do the test and sharing the results! I like your honest approach used in all your reviews and the information you share is valuable, saves time and money, all while entertaining. Sorry you had a spillage and it was the winning product! Great video I'll be looking out for your next episode!

  • @SoGchaosDJ
    @SoGchaosDJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    I feel all these tests are best done with transparent resin as that is where most people want an alternative for IPA to prevent clouding.

    • @MakerViking
      @MakerViking 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I totally agree, should do a followup video with transparent resin. Still loved the video though.

    • @namehere5675
      @namehere5675 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would also like to see a test done with transparent resin.

    • @truantray
      @truantray 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Clouding is avoided by drying the print completely.

    • @Jason-yn6oy
      @Jason-yn6oy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@truantray IPA is known to almost immediately cloud clear resins with a bit of a frosted appearance. This is right after they're in the IPA, even before they're cured, so it is unrelated to being completely dried. This is why I use ResinAway but I'm here to see if there were cheaper options that worked just as well as ResinAway.

    • @AquaticSCP
      @AquaticSCP 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SoGchaos then you won’t be able (harder) to see the liquid resin still on the prints

  • @Vladlabs
    @Vladlabs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot for the work you have done and for the time and effort to do this for the community, so we don't have to! Great job!

  • @Chromeskull90
    @Chromeskull90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how this guy is so in love with Mr. Clean hahaha

  • @ShadowDrakken
    @ShadowDrakken 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Hate to say it, but I wish you'd have done the tests on translucent resin. That way you could compare the fogging and discoloration effects of the cleaners :\

  • @0spike0100
    @0spike0100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Interesting initial findings, I would be interested in seeing how they holdup over time as well. As well as with transparent resin.

  • @WaheedAkhtarWahid
    @WaheedAkhtarWahid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the tips @uncle jessy. I have started using Simple Green for Water washable Resin in a 75% to 25% ratio (75% water, 25% Simple Green) in Anycubic 2in1 Wash and Cure and prints turn out amazingly clean.
    To clean my print plate and FEB, I am now using same 75% to 25% mixture in a spray bottle… Spray it and wipeout with paper towel, super simple and no mess.

  • @diadexxus
    @diadexxus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for doing this! I am a noobie with resin 3d printing, and its great to know we dont have to HUNT for alcohol! We can use one of these others that are SO much easier to find!

    • @UncleJessy
      @UncleJessy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep! I still use this in my large ultrasonic cleaner

  • @coreymacourek1577
    @coreymacourek1577 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your channel and time posting your test results. I have used Monocure's ResinAway with success, but these results present FAR less expensive and easily accessible options. Happy printing, Uncle Jessy!

  • @MigMonkey
    @MigMonkey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simple Green has its own very distinct smell. Very cool to see alternatives to IPA

  • @candogancan5574
    @candogancan5574 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always perfect job. My ultrasonic cleaner arrived today and I was looking for cleaner liquid alternatives, your video arrived at just right time.

  • @kevinm3751
    @kevinm3751 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fantastic, I too have used IPA and hate the smell and the mess and seeing this not only can I get away from that I can also save a ton of cash! So thanks for doing this experiment, you just saved me a lot of money!!!

  • @joewaddell9153
    @joewaddell9153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! As a science teacher, I love this. May even show it in class!
    Not to mention, I’m moving to one for the cleaners over ipa.
    Thanks!

  • @paintedjay
    @paintedjay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! My Mars just got here today, and I'm printing already! Definitely going to pick up some Mean Green and an Ultrasonic Cleaner!

  • @3DPrintFarm
    @3DPrintFarm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great job! Also, the Mean Green can be picked up at your local Dollar Tree for you guessed it! A BUCK! Also.. nice to see you guys using my pickle container idea! ;)

    • @Whatshisdude
      @Whatshisdude 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will check this today as I am going to a dollar tree anyway. And where would I find you pickle container idea details?

  • @xanxanariac9014
    @xanxanariac9014 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know this is an older video but I have used Mean Green for the last 3+ years.. It was $5 for a gallon at walmart here but is now $6.12/gal.. I usually buy online and pick it up. It's not dangerous to your health and smells much better than alcohol. btw, long time follower, Jessy!

  • @MrTonydetiger76
    @MrTonydetiger76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For those here for the IPA shortage, look into Purple Power as well. I use it. Doesn't have the weird minty/licorice smell that Simple Green does. I also use it to clean the build plate and the resin tank after prints. Scrape out the resin, spray the plate and reservoir and wipe. I also use a foaming ammonia free glass cleaner to clean off the build plate and FEP. I'm trying to get away from IPA because of the harsh smell and scarcity.

  • @OtioseFanatic
    @OtioseFanatic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’m curious if the effectiveness of the clean would change if you had used a more contemporary cleaning machine like the Creality wash and cure station or any of the equivalents that instead of being ultrasonic actually just have a magnetically driven fan to stir the cleaning solution

  • @shanestrains4724
    @shanestrains4724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this comparison. I'm just getting into 3D printing and picked up the Mars 2 p. I picked up a jug of the simple green because I'm trying to avoid harsh smells in my house. Plus I'll be using the plant based resin from Anycubic, again to keep the odours down. I'm anxious to see how things turn out once I cut my teeth on a few test prints. Still waiting on my Ultra Sonic Cleaner and Curing Booth before I get started. 👍

  • @robinson-foundry
    @robinson-foundry 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if this would be a good way to clean the vat after a failed print.

  • @MrCinpro
    @MrCinpro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just an FYI out there for everyone. I used to use Simple Green to clean the rinse tanks of photo printers and developed a sensitivity to it. If anyone starts getting a scratchy throat, runny nose or eyes watering. Get to fresh air asap. If it comes back when you go back in the room find a new cleaner. I got so I can't even give the stuff one spray trigger w/o having a coughing fit. Hope it doesn't happen to anyone, cause it sucks. It was my favorite cleaner for many years. Happy printing ppl!😁

    • @UncleJessy
      @UncleJessy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a great callout! Something for sure I will be closely monitoring as I continue to work with these cleaners

  • @icb6418
    @icb6418 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much! I’m just getting into resin printing and I’ve seen all these vids about how you’re gonna have to spend 200 on gallons of IPA. I’ll be sure to get some mean green and try it out

  • @freddyrosenberg9288
    @freddyrosenberg9288 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I use ultrasonic cleaners a lot and I have found clothes' detergent in liquid form is superb for cleaning in those machines ( a liitle detergent goes a log way do not use it 100% strength) . Better than orange chizel, simple green and other de-greasers. Also, you do not have to fill the whole tub with the cleaner. Fill the ultrasonic cleaner with water and put the product in a plastic tub filled to the same depth as the water in the cleaner. There is no difference.

    • @mattiasranbro
      @mattiasranbro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

    • @JohnDoe-cj4gn
      @JohnDoe-cj4gn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What ratio of laundry detergent to water do you use ?

  • @marklafferty5319
    @marklafferty5319 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting-been using IPA, will have to check out alternatives. THANKS!

  • @timberry4709
    @timberry4709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Glad I found this video, I was wondering if there were alternatives to IPA. I am just starting with 3D resin printing (I already have an Ender-3) and am collecting supplies while waiting for my Anycubic Photon to arrive.
    Also, if you spill a cleaning product are you really making a mess?

  • @LinkWulluf
    @LinkWulluf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We used to use mean green to clean the scummy green slimy algae out of our pool whenever we would let it sit for a season. I'm excited to try it for this

  • @EricHonaker
    @EricHonaker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Simple Green is usually concentrated - if you diluted it to the suggested ratio it might be more cost-effective.

    • @Liberty4Ever
      @Liberty4Ever 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Some concentrated surfactant cleaners work better when diluted. They're designed to enhance water's solvent capabilities.

  • @yougosquishnow
    @yougosquishnow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad you did this. I have a huge bottle of simple green i use to clean mold release

  • @williamleitz3551
    @williamleitz3551 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! and do you normally leave your cleaning solution in the ultrasonic cleaner for later?

  • @terpdx
    @terpdx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Look at those shelves stocked with cleaning products. Ahhh, those were the days...

  • @TheRealAfroRick
    @TheRealAfroRick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the experiment. Now I can switch to something more cost-effective. May also explain why some of my prints still seemed to not be clean after I cleaned them.

  • @Likeableartist
    @Likeableartist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    If this ever gets revised or revisited, Remember to mention that cleaners will Eat away at the spinner in the Wash and cure stations! was wondering why there was black bits floating around and i discovered that it completely dissolved the Rubber and the Blue protective coating on the spinner in the bottom of the container!

    • @darkeraeris
      @darkeraeris ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for pointing this out!

    • @CookieManCookies
      @CookieManCookies 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not a issue if you use a ultrasonic cleaner, as there is no spinner.

  • @CMCustom112
    @CMCustom112 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was reading that post while in Walmart the other day. Walked right over to the cleaning supplies Isle and picked up a bottle of mean green. My Mars should be at my doorstep this afternoon.

  • @rich_3d
    @rich_3d 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there! Great video and Channel! You've been a massive help to me getting into resin 3D printing! I'm in the UK and, whereas I don't expect you to know specific products, I was wondering if you could advise as to what properties I'm looking for in these kinds of cleaners so i can find the right one for UK print cleaning? Thanks again! Keep up the great work!

  • @SuperMakeSomething
    @SuperMakeSomething 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is super interesting! Thanks for posting this test! User safety/toxicity of the cleaners in large quantities is probably the biggest trade-off I see with regards to using these as an IPA alternative, but the fact that the degreaser resulted in the cleanest prints is very interesting!
    I wonder how ethanol would work... maybe you could try scotch, vodka, and rum next! :P

    • @UncleJessy
      @UncleJessy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Whiskey cleaner coming up!

    • @boviac
      @boviac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Effective and Cheaper alternatives was the goal I was looking for here.

  • @MarkRhodesMaker
    @MarkRhodesMaker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This blows my mind. IPA is really expensive here, and I never considered alternatives! Thanks man

  • @CeresOutpost
    @CeresOutpost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm going for the most environmental combo - Simple Green with Anycubic's soy-based resin. I live in the mountains of Central Oregon and during the winter, my options for ventilating my heated garage are minimal. I will post a video after I have done some testing with this combo.

  • @alexanderlopez4255
    @alexanderlopez4255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im about to get started with 3D printing and im glad i watched this. I think i'm gonna get mean green instead of IPA

  • @chucklamb3496
    @chucklamb3496 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely going to try this as soon as my printer comes.

  • @Merc_33
    @Merc_33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very useful for a beginner.

  • @kd757t
    @kd757t 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all of the great info

  • @dougwhiddon8227
    @dougwhiddon8227 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is wonderful. I've had a Photon for over a year, and just got a Phenom and I HATE using alcohol for cleanup.

  • @FusionSource
    @FusionSource 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thank you for the info, I have been struggling to get IPA in South Africa, so I will check this out. Great video, excited by your channel, just subbed.

  • @Road_Rash
    @Road_Rash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm switching to Mean Green! One of my favorites anyways!

  • @pryns
    @pryns 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey @Uncle Jessy, #1 I love you videos (the quality is great: sound & visual), #2 I watched this video a while ago but had to revisit it because I'm having issues curing my prints. They almost always get damaged during curing because of the surface still having leftover residue (or leaking from a hollow print). It's driving me crazy! Do you have any suggestions for making sure this doesn't happen????

  • @exodous02
    @exodous02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It need to be pointed out these DO NOT work without a ultrasonic cleaner. I had the simple pickle dunking stations that worked fine for IPA but I got the one you suggested, mean green, and it did not work in my dunking station. Not only did it not get my print clean but it would foam really bad. I got an ultra sonic cleaner and now it works great! I can't remember if you said this or not in the video. I watched it but might have missed it, just throwing it out there. . .

  • @Penetralex
    @Penetralex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like a lot the test. Thank you

  • @ArionRaine
    @ArionRaine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Mean Green is indeed the best. I have been using it for years and recommending it for as long. Simple reason is its the only cleaner I could find that contains an ethoxylated or propoxylated alcohol which are the ingredients common to stuff like Resin Away from Monocure, and Yellow Magic 7 (yep, resin away is essentially mean green with a crazy jacked up price) that can be bought at a general store. You can confirm this by obtaining the MSDS from Monocure and Yellow Magic if you would like. It can be bought in gallons for about $8 at hardware stores depending where you live. It will also last forever minus evaporation due to the fact you can cure the resin out of it. However it WILL discolor your print if left in too long. As far as alcohols go, you should be using denatured alcohol (ethanol, which is methylated to prevent drinking), also known as methylated spirits across the pond. I really dont know why isopropanol became a thing for rinsing prints. Ethanol, which is in fact the alcohol recommended by most resin manufacturers, works far better, does not cloud prints nearly as bad, and is MUCH cheaper at around $11/gal. I am going to assume when people read alcohol they assumed it meant isopropanol, and it just became the norm, which was in fact mis-information. Some do just state alcohol without specifying ethanol, but most do state ethanol. Isopropanol does work, but is not as effective, and clouds the prints due to having a water content that is absorbed into the surface on top of the amount of etching that takes place. Also, do not use alcohol in an ultrasonic cleaner. Flammable vapors can be produced potentially causing a really bad day.

    • @travismcgruder5169
      @travismcgruder5169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So after washing in mean green, I can just put it under the same UV/sunlight to cure the left behind resin?

    • @ArionRaine
      @ArionRaine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@travismcgruder5169 Rinse with water after the mean green just to get rid of the mean green.

    • @papaf0xtr0t
      @papaf0xtr0t 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like Oil Eater brand cleaner may have similar ingredients as well?
      Sodium metasilicate - pentahydrate 6834-92-0 < 5%
      2 Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 < 5 %
      Linear Alcohol Ethoxylate 68439-46-3 < 5 %

  • @anthonysamboer7636
    @anthonysamboer7636 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome info Uncle Jess!

  • @christopherc3698
    @christopherc3698 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love simple green because it cleans so well. I paint, and it strips them off the prints if you let it sit in the solution. And the smell you are looking for I think is mild licorice

  • @robertwesterfield3454
    @robertwesterfield3454 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for this review we are just starting the resin printing from using the old style and we are very happy to not use that much alcohol

  • @russellauger5067
    @russellauger5067 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great demo. You can fill the pickle jar with cleaner and then put in the tank with water below the cleaner line. All of the cleaners have a alcohol component.

  • @kevinbroadley5422
    @kevinbroadley5422 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video, very informative only thing is all these products are very expensive in the uk or to get them shipped, are there any cheaper alternative products that are readily available in the uk?

  • @gr3yh47
    @gr3yh47 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the informative video. do you have a link to the breathing mask you were using?

  • @nickcampana5637
    @nickcampana5637 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and as always full of great content. Question, do you think with an agitator in a 5 gallon bucket and using Mean Green I would get similar results? I've been using my Jupiter quite a bit and the prints are a good size. Didn't want to add an ultrasonic cleaner at this point, maybe later on down the road. Thank you

  • @christophermichaels8148
    @christophermichaels8148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have tried these and I have found that warm water and Dawn Platinum works great.

    • @vegasmagicman
      @vegasmagicman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you still use this solution? Hell I have Dawn Platinum so I'll give it a try.

  • @terrywellman1520
    @terrywellman1520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can get a gallon of Mean Green concentrate at Walmart for $4.97. That's probably your biggest bang for the buck. I'm grabbing a couple of gallons today as I'm doing more LCD resin printing than ever before and ISO is not cheap. Great vid with a lot of excellent information!

  • @InterstellarModeler
    @InterstellarModeler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thanks for this review, interesting results. You mentioned that you typically don't put the cleaner back in the bottle. How do you usually dispose of it? Thanks

  • @kyleniedermeier6651
    @kyleniedermeier6651 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, as usual!

  • @jordongingrich8913
    @jordongingrich8913 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow.. Sweet testing! Mr clean looks like mountain dew and for that alone it's what I want to try haha

  • @avejst
    @avejst 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting test
    Thanks for sharing👍😀

  • @phunkymunky7210
    @phunkymunky7210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    After how many prints would u recommend changing the solution?

  • @Ison3Ison3
    @Ison3Ison3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You! Very helpful!

  • @pacificcoastminiatures
    @pacificcoastminiatures ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m even using Simple Green with my water washable resin. I’ve diluted it about half with water. Seems to clean better than just plain water. After the SG bath I put the prints in plain water as a final rinse.

  • @AlbertoMartinez765
    @AlbertoMartinez765 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW! Nice video , will be switching to a Reg Cleaner vs Alcohol now.

  • @jeffgreenfield7025
    @jeffgreenfield7025 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad i found this video. The IPA in my shop was really bugging me, and i was about to buy the yellow magic 7, but it's ~$40 a gallon. We use Mr. Clean in the jewelry ultrasonic cleaner with great results, and much lower cost than dedicated cleaners.

    • @MajorMoron
      @MajorMoron 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention infinitely less flammable. I have been stressing about how flammable ethanol and IPA is, I think I might switch over to using one of these alternatives for most prints, and then maybe keep a bottle of IPA on the side just in case.

  • @CrazyWillTechShow
    @CrazyWillTechShow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man this really help me found a bottle of simple green at sam’s Club concentrated for like $10 makes 48 32oz bottles. Lot cheaper than the $30 I spent for 12 16oz bottles. Thanks!

  • @jaythree9555
    @jaythree9555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it safe or recommended to leave the cleaning solution in the ultrasonic between prints and reuse and then replace when needed?

  • @AndyTanguay
    @AndyTanguay 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, are you using heat in your ultrasonic cleaner with the Mean Green? Thanks! Great video. The Mr Clean does look delicious.

  • @Whatshisdude
    @Whatshisdude 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is useful. Question, since I do not have a sonic cleaner, is the pickle jar method literally just shaking the print in the cleaning liquid?

  • @michaellalor3090
    @michaellalor3090 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video. Just wondering. When you use the Ultrasonic Cleaner, do you heat the liquid or just run it cold? I've never used one so I'm wondering before I buy one. The one I'm looking at only froms from 20C upwards and I'm wondering if that's too hot for the resin parts?

  • @NotChar
    @NotChar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you used the simple green did you do any additional rinsing after submerging? Or does it just dry with no residue?

  • @rblues4u
    @rblues4u 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy the cleaners video, do you heat the cleaners in the Ultra Sonic Cleaners or just use the vibrating motion? I have one for my jewelry biz but I rarely use it. This would a nice way of using it. Thanks

  • @TexasBubblehead
    @TexasBubblehead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We use Simple Green on submarines but never stick your nose over a chemical, wave your hand over the opening towards yourself.

  • @MONTY-YTNOM
    @MONTY-YTNOM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    SAFETY TIP: Never smell the bottle. Waft the scent to your nose with your hand.

    • @UncleJessy
      @UncleJessy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Haha very very true! Thought about that as I was editing 👍

    • @Botwire
      @Botwire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If the chemical bottle is not clearly marked then you use the hand wave smell method. None of the chemical cleaners used in this video are dangerous and in fact, simple green is non toxic.

    • @pandapropsncostumes
      @pandapropsncostumes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Great videos as always Jessy. If I can please make a request: please please please demonstrate the use of a proper respirator that filters fumes. What you’re using doesn’t have cartridge filters which is essential for safety. As someone who was hospitalized for breathing in bad stuff, I learned my lesson the hard way. Use a Niosh approved respirator with 6001 cartridge filters. These are regulated and proven to filter out harmful chemicals.
      As a fellow maker, I’m seeing lots of tutorial videos on TH-cam where safety isn’t always promoted. Lots of kids are watching, let’s do our part to keep them safe! Thanks for all your hard work and videos, they are amazing! Keep on making!!

    • @DarioDarrow
      @DarioDarrow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Panda Props & Costumes This is great advice 👍 The dust particle mask could even make fume inhalation worse as you end up breathing harder through the mask. Organic vapour filters will prevent the hallucinations 🤪

    • @MONTY-YTNOM
      @MONTY-YTNOM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Botwire Not the point. Ppl watching might assume that's how you test ALL bottles. Always show good drill in a demo

  • @WayneMcCormick
    @WayneMcCormick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I wonder if you should have use plain water in the ultrasonic cleaner as sort of a baseline. Just to remove the Ultrasonic as a factor?

    • @OtioseFanatic
      @OtioseFanatic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably not with the resin he used. He didn’t use a water washable resin so parts would be damaged. If you are gonna go out of your way to get water washable resin, then just clean with water. No chems involved.

  • @WayneMcCormick
    @WayneMcCormick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you use Mean Green to clean and maintain your printer and vat as well?

  • @jamesedwards8175
    @jamesedwards8175 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have found that biofuel actually works great for cleaning. It's a mix of iso and a couple other alcohols, available really cheap ($20 or so for a gallon) and it works really great on my Anycubic prints.

  • @karllautman
    @karllautman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, Jessy, but product lifetime is another variable to consider. I realize it would make for a much more complicated test, but how many cleaning cycles can you get out of each product and, more importantly, what do you do with the dirty cleaner when it's used up? My hunch is all of them except IPA have to be taken to the recycling center (maybe they can be decanted a few times first, but that takes a lot of time and more cleaner to use while the dirty stuff sits). IPA, on the other hand, can easily be distilled (with a $125 electric water distiller from Amazon) and reused indefinitely (until you run out of it through evaporation), simplifying the cleaning cycle and, possibly, reducing cost.

  • @richardcarlisle6692
    @richardcarlisle6692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content. I was wondering if there were any valid alternatives to isopropyl.

  • @guszkoh23
    @guszkoh23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Thank you

  • @bsmith4996
    @bsmith4996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    For Ultrasonic cleaners it is very important that that are filled for them to work correctly. Even 1/2 inch makes a difference on the waves power. Besides that it will burn out the transducers fast if not full. I’m sure the manual will agree

  • @zombeikiller2509
    @zombeikiller2509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This will help me, as I am just starting out with a resin printer and all the iso is gone. lol

  • @unlikelyevents1842
    @unlikelyevents1842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You've a money saver. With this virus you can't find alcohol anywhere. Thank you for this. Saved me from wasting over 100$ to people taking advantage of the lack of product to take as much money as they can from people.

  • @TheStarStreak
    @TheStarStreak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is nice to see, IPA in Sweden is ~25 USD per liter and has been that way for years. Even if you purchase it by the can it costs over 75$ for 5 liters.

  • @derliferreira
    @derliferreira 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow you discovered we all been lied about Isopropyl Alcohol! Nice job!

  • @thebaldgm882
    @thebaldgm882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video. I know for the Netherlands that Simple Green is the same as St Marcs Verfreiniger (paintcleaner), as I use it to remove old paint from models (metal and plastic). My question: the water that you use to rinse... is it still toxic? Or should I also give it a UV treatment? I mean before I pour it into the sink.

  • @Neptune730
    @Neptune730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I know this is an old video but that makes my question perfect. So after almost 2 years is Mean Green still your go to cleaner? Or are you using something else by now. I am waiting on delivery of my first resin printer. The Anycubic Photon Mono. Thanks

  • @craigsmith8019
    @craigsmith8019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Jesse I'be used a little purple power cut but Ibe got a gallon of mean green im goung with that love the tips im.in.a limited budget so.every cent counts !!!

  • @blueckaym
    @blueckaym ปีที่แล้ว

    3:02 "... if I don't have enough IPA to fill this tank up "
    Actually you don't need to fill the tank with IPA.
    Fill it with water.
    Put your parts to be clean and the IPA in a smaller plastic (or glass) container, and put that container inside the tank of the ultrasonic cleaner.
    You're not only saving on the amount of IPA (or whatever solvent you're using for the respective clean-job) but also keeping your ultrasonic cleaner clean from any chemicals (besides water ... technically water is still a chemical ... you know, the same way alcohol is a solution ;))