Elegoo Water Washable Resin Review - Elegoo Mars
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2024
- Lets take a look at the new Elegoo Water Washable Resin! Lots of controversy around this new resin. Does it actually work?
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"Why wouldn't I just use IPA?" *six months and a pandemic that caused a shortage of IPA later...* "Oh."
Lol...the timing was impeccable.
Shoulda known. What a fool
Also ipa is more expensive
Even without those points water is free and doesn't smell.
I want to make a note about washing since nobody is talking about this. My first print was a large skull, it failed due to not enough resin in the vat so I did break tests with the printed 3/4. After a short wash and some curing it held up remarkably well for resin, surviving being thrown to the ceiling and landing on my Linoleum kitchen floor without damage several times.
Then later I noticed most of my finished prints were very brittle, one of them crumbling with little force after curing and being limp and squishable before final cure. I did some thorough testing and long story short, do not leave the resin in a water bath for more than 2-3 minutes, after 5 in the ultrasonic it is markedly weaker and after 40 the cured print crumbles like a cookie. I'm not sure if it is absorbing water/minerals or if something is leaching out, but overwash and you will be sad. Washed briefly and the resin is surprisingly strong.
I also tested air cure vs water cure, and while the water cured resin was slightly softer/more-brittle (most noticeably in thin supports), the difference was nowhere near as much as 3 vs 25 min cleaning. It looks like the resin is most vulnerable in it's half cured state right off the printer, if your UV oven is strong enough to cure prints quickly, you can probably still use a water bath if you want.
Thanks for the comment! I am trying to figure out why my print breaks of the build plate(after washing) I don't have this problem with the water wash from anycubic.
@@SuperReneeeee I've tried a couple of brands of water washable and even had fully painted gifts break over a year later. Prints will be fine until heat and humidity hit them, then they crack like arid soil. Avoid water washable.
I for one would not miss the IPA, and I need at least 10 of those new vats. Also the Phenom is relentless 😅
Will you test it or make a review of it?
Simple Green and most any all purpose cleaner work just as good or better on the standard resins. I wouldn't mind switching to water myself since free is better than cheap, ntm having it on demand rather than having to buy it...but I would prefer to keep the higher strength, lower cost of the standard resins.
Haha some big big big Phenom prints in the works ;)
@@UncleJessy I'm also guessing you will be in pretty early on when Elegoo puts out their large format:) I will be very jealous!
@@UncleJessy so keen!
I do not do 3D printing myself, but I appreciate that you are so vigilant about the safety of how to handle resin. It is really important to hammer that in because there will be some people who still don''t get it after the first time.
:eye roll emoji: This resin is not dangerous, for the love of god stop. Unless you are drinking it or smoking this crap, you got bigger problems.
@@SPBurt1 Go read the material safety data sheet for literally any resin and then come back.
@@SPBurt1 Ok go handle resin every day for a few months then come back and tell us what happens... Spoiler alert: it probably won't be fun. Yeah I doubt it will kill you, but skin issues and pain does not sound like a good experience. And how hard is it to just wear some gloves?
dude you're always 1000 steps ahead of me and making videos as well! i always run into your videos and im glad i do. thanks for all the info!!! I think using this resin with the Anycubic wash and cure station is a big win
You should make a video explaining how you safely get rid of your resin waste.
I just put mine outside in a clear container and let it cure in the sunlight
@@jawaring4367 Does the resin precipitate out of the solvent or does the whole mixture gel up when you do that?
@@jasonpagura6149 it kinda solidifies inside of the container and rests on the bottom with most resins
@@jawaring4367 I never thought... solidified resin is harmless, it cures in the sun, and alcohol evaporates quickly. You know those moments when you feel stupid? I'm having one.
@@DezzarTac lol, don't feel bad, I've worked around all kinds of solvents all day every day for the last decade so its just second nature to me at this point
I wash my resin prints in the shower while taking a shower.......and I’m pretty sure that third nipple on my chest has always been there.
lmaooo!
That's why I 3d print my bath bombs with resin. They smell so good!
I do hope you are kidding, resin is hazardous and should not be going down the drain or sewer.
TheVideotoaster it’s pretty sad that you don’t know if they are joking
Yes that third nipple was always there, the scary bit is have your eyes always been on stalks long enough to be able to see them?
Update: Just checked the data sheets for those chemicals and your safe as long as you cannot see the back of your own head. If you can panic...
Uncle Jessy, what resin do you recommend for gaming miniatures that is durable and not brittle?
Maybe you should make a video about Water washable, Plant Based, and Rigid + Flex resins and which is best for printing miniatures.
Thanks for covering this topic so thoroughly. Great info. FYI you don't need to undo your vat screws all the way,, the vat will slide out after a few of turns of each. Cheers, JAYTEE
Thank god! Finally more resin printer stuff. :) I truly hope they become the standard in the 3D printing industry, because they just look sooooooo good.
You should be using the basket insert in your ultrasonic. The idea is that the water or cleaning fluid is being vibrated and the model is not. the interaction between them creates the cleaning action and bubbles around the still model. If the model is sitting on the bottom and also vibrating the difference between the water and the model will be less and it will result in less effective cleaning.
Did you take the cleaning vats outside to cure the washed off resin in the water? I'd be interested to see how that does vs. resin / ipa.
Super awesome video, man! A lot of great information and the rant was A+++
Thanks man!!
Hi! Love your videos and am now subscribed! I have a total noob question....what was the UV box you mentioned? Is this a separate device needed in order to cure the prints? Thanks!
I've been trying a few test printson my new Mars 3 with the Washable Resin - not bad so far (had one rook of the two I printed this morning fail to adhere to the build plate - could be I didn't have it levelled properly). Glad you mentioned about the brush - I completely missed that they included this in the box of resin and just found it on the bottom of the box!
Thanks for the videos. I got my Mars last week and water resin based on your videos.
When it comes to cleaning your printer afterwards, can water be used for that, or should you still use IPA/other chemical solvent?
I print more architectural parts with floors and walls. I have found the curling/deformation to be pretty serious with this resin. I have had to heat up my printer bed to around 80C to make the part pliable and work it back into form and slowly cool it. Thoughts?
Is it possible for you to make a video on how to keep your resin prints clear after it is printed? I just purchased some clear green and clear blue resin from Elegoo. The prints come off the build plate very clear, however after cleaning and uv curing they look frosted. They lost the clear glossy look. Thanks
Great vid. Really hope I get to try out some of these resins some time :)
So many resin options these days. I love it
Hi thanks for share!! Is the resin once cured and well washed friendly for skin? eg. A wrist watch
done with this wather washable resin would have odor and could damage my skin?
I’m interested in this, do you still have to ‘bake’ under a UV light source?
Not cleaning in the sink seems quite a good idea, but how do you clear the water you used before getting rid of it? Can you use UVs to make the residue solidify then filter it?
Also interested in the durability compared to classic resin.
I pour my waste water into a clear tub with a clear lid. I then stand my UV light on top of it for 5-10 minutes, then strain the liquid and throw away all the hardened resin. The remaining water should then be OK to pour away in the drain.
I know I'm a little late to the party, but you can just let it evaporate.
@@MrOrestis7 quick question, what if is too cold outside? I live in a damm cold place during winter. Any suggestion? I just started with water washable resin and 3D printing in general.
put it down your bathroom sink or toilet, it's not like you don't put chemicals in your toilet anyway
@@javierhillier4252 There are toxic materials that cannot be filtered by your city water department. They will damage life. There is no difference between your kitchen sink and your bathroom sink, they all go to the same place.
This was really informative. I have never 3d printed before but considering the price of model kits I decided to buy a printer. I ordered the Eleegoo Saturn3 ultra 12k, ships in Oct/23.
This video was very helpful, those plastic vats are dope. Just smashed the subscribe button
Just bought the mars pro and got the washable water resin, glad to see i made a good choice in getting resin i personally think its worth the price for the water resin since right now IPA ALC is super hard to find and super expensive
Awesome video! I've just bought the Anycubic Photon S and am trying to use this resin but I'm having issues. Could you possibly share your settings for your successful prints with the WW resin please? Thanks dude (and anyone who shares their settings too).
What exactly do you do with the support material? With PLA, I can just melt it down into sheets and store it away for random projects and/or to await the day that a decent product for turning it into filament hits the market... with ABS, I can dissolve it with acetone to make ABS glue. What do you do with resin supports, though?
Hey @uncle Jessy: Any recommendation or reviews for Priming sprays and clear sprays to cover and protect the finalized prints?
Any idea how the previous vid showcasing using different cleaners as a cleaning solution would work with this? Be interested to see if it has an effect at all.
How does the resin's strength/elasticity etc. compare to PLA ?
Brittle by comparison
depends on the resin, the standard photoresin is harder but more brittle than pla, the ABS like resin is like ABS, there is a TPU-like resin, and you can even get PC-like clears.
really you can compare standard resin to BPA-free water bottle material, like those Nalgene bottles. harder than strong.
As someone who started off resin printing with water washable resin, it is really nice, but the resin itself is really brittle and I noticed that it has a pretty strong smell. I am actually in the process of buying what I will need to clean normal resin so I can use that because I got fed up with water washable resin
Also on that same note, even with water washable resin, they advise that you still clean and cure it with alcohol afterwards, you just need significantly less
Have you used this with the Phrozen Transform? Wondering what settings to use...
What would be the best exposure time with this stuff? Thanks.
If you use this resin can you do all the other cleanup work with water? Like the plate and places it drips.
Great review, just what I was looking for. But I do have one question regarding what you do with that water afterwards? Let it evaporate and then keep the residue etc?
I take the container of water and leave it in the sun to cure for a few hours. Then I strain the water into the sink so the cured resin pieces can be thrown away.
Just curious... what do u do with the water u have cleaned the resin with???
Have you used the water washable on the Saturn 2? If so, what settings have you been using? Just got the Saturn 2 as my first printer bundled with this resin and having trouble.
Just curious to know. Do you use the AA setting in Advanced?
Great presentation on a controversial topic of the water washable resins! question on the plastic vats- how is the FEP attached? Is it like laser welded on or something mechanical like a regular vat?
Thats a great question.... I honestly didnt even check.
old video I know.. but did you take it straight from water cleaning to curing, or did you let them dry first before curing?
Does the dual charcoal filter help a lot from resin smell? I returned my ff foto 8.9 to get Saturn 2 for that filter option can I put a usb splitter and run two filters?
How you clean the tank after using the resin, whith water too? I just recived this resin for try in my Anycubic Photon
Hi, i want to try this resin in my anycubic. What settings are you using with it. I only have used the tranparent green with great results.
How long should I clean the resin prints in the pickle jar with water or alcohol resin?
I've mentioned this on another TH-camrs video on the elegoo mars. But chitubox doesn't let you know when a thumb drive is full. If there isn't enough space to store a sliced model, it will simply save up to the point the drive it full and you will end up with a model that prints till the sliced layers end and the printer will just freeze at that level. I was lrinting something solid that was a 12 hour print. About 6 hours in it just froze up. I was asleep while printing and woke up to a failed print. Cleared it off the build plate and just started it again to come back and find the same result. It wasn't till I decided to reslice the model that I discovered the drive was full.
this is so good to know thank you
Have you tested it with other printers? Is it more brittle than normal resin with thins surfaces?
Thanks for the video
What slicer do you use?
Ok I have an odd question, when I use this stuff, if I pour (for example) 1 L of this resin into a vat, it seems like it is evaporating and losing overall volume. So let's say my print actually takes 1 L to print, at 10% of the print time it would mathematically be close to 800-900 ml usage (assuming I am printing a flat cube the whole way through the print), but it seems like somehow there is only 500-600 ml of fluid left and at 50% print time 1 L of fluid is empty...I noticed that the lid has a bit of a fog residue that I don't get with other types of resin. Do I have a watered down bottle that is evaporating or is this just the nature of this stuff, its not a 1:1 fluid to print usage? I notice in standard resin you need a bit more too, but nowhere near like this...if this makes sense? Also the room temperature is not really hot or anything, could be cold even and same thing happens.
Is that Ultrasonic cleaner large enough for MARS 2 Pro full size print? If so, what is the model number, if not, can you recommend one that is? Thanks
Now I have got my Elegoo Saturn 2 8K resin printer and the Mercury XS wash & Cure two unit system, I of course did a couple of models.
The thing is, the waste resin in the water of the wash unit tub. I wish to dispose f the waste water safely as you state it must be done so?
I was reading up about how is a good way to filter the waste part of the water after you cure the resin out of the tub.
Someone stated to just buy a standard water filter jug and the filtering units that are used for the filtering of the water normally.
So I be buying a jug and 6 replacement filter units and this be far less to buy than some fancy vacuum type filtering set ups.
Works out that the Jug and 6 filter units cost me under £50 here in the UK. I be interested to see if it works?
just a ideer i have a mercury plus the whater you end up with after cleaning can you not just turn on the cure lights for 5 min wile the bucket of the mercury with the water in it cures all the uncured resin thats in it and then just run the whater tru a filter so you can reuse it or fapurate it off so only the cured resin particels be left over ?
Just bought some...looking forward to trying it out!
How was it? Just curious how you found using it :)
The up side of using IPA is that it evaporates very quickly. So when it's time to dispose of contaminated cleaning solution you can simply leave a container open for a few days and the alcohol will disappear. Leaving dry cured resin to be thrown away. When using water, would you not end up with sludge and/or volumes of contaminated
To get rid of the waste, I heard the good with with IPA is that you can just leave it outside for the alcohol to evaporate and then you are just left out with residual hardened resin, that can be thrown out normally
but what would be the waste disposal procedure with water ?
Largely the same. Leave the container of water out on a bright day, let the resin harden and fall, filter and repeat until it's clear water.
I leave in a pretty hot area, so it usually just take a day or two for it all to evaporate.
Hey thanks for this. Any discussion on longevity of water washable resins? Do the objects last longer, less or the same? Thx. Also on an aside what do you do with the remaining water from the pickle jug or ultrasonic cleaner when done, if you do not put them in the drain?
The used water should be brought to a hazardous waste facility.
@@KittenBlackheart What percentage of users do that I wonder? 0.0005 most likely.
Or you let it out in the sun for a few days to cure it. Then dispose.
I am new to the printing world. What is the responsible way of getting rid of the used water or IPA?
How do you dispose of the water once you have washed the print? I am new and have not done a print yet on my Mars 4 DLP, thanks
Yes! The washing in the sink, put the water in a bucket outside and let it evaporate work be best, thank sc for saying something about the smell as I was wondering about that too. The plastic vats sound like a great idea too, but have heard that you get a little left in the lip of them, I was thinking that just let it set and put the vats out in the sun or cure it there might cure that problem. What are your thoughts? Thanks for sharing....Jack
Jeez this is great during the lock down. 90% Iso is super expensive now. Being able to use water would save a lot of money. My question is does this resin work with other printers like the creality?
Does the Water washable resin work with the Phenom Noir or L? ...or other large printers? I got an email back from Epax saying that water washable resin doesn't work in their larger printers because there is too much background radiation from the large screens.
water washable resin is the future. with more R&D, the current weakness (literally) of water rein can be overcome. but the advantage of not having to deal with (use of and disposal) massive volumes of flammable solvents cannot be overstated
So I'm new to this and learning and a big question is, how do I dipose of the water soaked in resin, if not down the drain??
What I have read so far, put it in a clear container and let the dissolved resin cure in the sun or under a uv lamp. Then it should be safe. Probably even better to filter out the cured resin pieces before putting the water it in the sink after that. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
Im new to this resin printing stuff and ill be getting my first printer and water washable resin this week, i understand you cant wash in the sink, so what do you all do with your water after you wash your prints? it kind of seems like a silly question but id like to know xD obviously not down the sink, obviously not drink... lol... do you just chuck it out into your yard?
Hi, where can I order the Resin tanks with lid? I didn't find anything at Amazon and Ebay.
I have a question if someone could answer it, I would be grateful. I just received my Mars a couple days ago and still learning about printing, during a print, a couple pieces that were to small to stick to the platform (my guess as to what happened) fell in the vat and I didn't know until after it finished, so the pieces that fell are now stuck to the clear plastic bottom of the Vat. What do I do to get it off?.
About to get an AnyCubic Photon delivered and I am yet to find someone that says what to do with the cleaning fluid (IPA or water based) after it becomes saturated. Many say that they cure the liquid to get the resin out of supervention and get rid of it with solid waste, but what do you do when your fluid itself has just run its course. For sure do not dump it down the drain, so what do you guys do?
Looking to use the Elegoo 8k water washable resin, looking to pick up the Mars 4 ultra at the end of the month!
Can this resin work fine with other printers like Anycubic Photon M3?
I have a question :) wath the best settings for water washable resin ? exposure time etc.. I am lost really
hi cant find a good answer on google, can i use DLP resin for my LCD printer ? ( my local stors only have DLP in stock for some reason)
Question: A lot of the resin SDS sheets say "Very toxic to aquatic life", so once you wash your figures in the pickle container or the machine, where do you dispose of the used water?
Curing, evaporate, bin
What do you do with your waste products, please? If it's something that incurs further cost then - whether with traditional resins dissolved in IPA or this new one - that impacts on the cost per project, potentially significantly.
Google for your local city or town's hazardous waste disposal services. Mine does it for free.
Could you use the Mercury wash station and just put water in it? I know seems overkill but it comes with the cure station so might as well.
Does anyone know? How much does the resin smell? Is this something I need to vent outside?
What are your full mars settings with the resin. Ive been having issues with settings and cant find a doc online
How do you dispose of the water you used to clean the resin of the print? thanks.
What do you do with the resin containing water?!?
Yo! @unclejessy got a link to that ultrasonic cleaner?
As someone who works with paint's and chemicals, I understand the risks but I am completely new to resin 3D printing. My first resin printer will be arriving in 2 days. How do you deal with the water with disolved resin it? Can you cure the resin in the water by say leaving it out in the sun and then filter out the bits so you can dispose of the water or do you leave it to evaporate and then clean out the sludge?
Is that tank in the ultrasonic clearer removable?
Do you think it would be a good idea to spill this on a working electric space heater and or store is near such?
so once I'm done cleaning with water in a container. How do I dispose of the water afterwards?
The plastics vats are currently discontinued. They reworked them but not up on Amazon yet, and it is now a 2 pack. (They sent me the link to the listing but not available yet)
That sounds like great stuff. Might have to pick some up!
Don't forget to look into the cons first, such as about half the strength, higher viscosity and higher price.
Yeah, I'd rather just pick some up and experiment with it. :D
Do you have a link for the extra vats?
how would you clean the fep's "im looking into resin printing"
Nice video buddy 🤗.
That resine look really awesome and yes, a little more expensive but you don’t need IPA and nothing more just water , then , finally isn’t more expensive 🤗.
I’m thinking seriously to buy my first resine 3d printer and when I was ready to buy ELEGOO Mars yesterday I read that to the end of November a new one is coming 😱😱. Do you know something about that?. When exactly it will be out?
Cheers again for the video and sorry about my “English” 😓
Hey just a random side note.. you look like you're slimming down/getting fitter man, looking good!
Great video like always.
Much appreciated! Yeah I've been doing keto since Aug and loving it.
@@UncleJessy Stop it! You're already so sexy.
I bought this printer and resin , two set up prints , have failed as models have sat on the FEP film and supports are printing fine , is this a printer issue ?
why did you take the screws out? you just need to loosen them a little.
Some men just want to watch the world burn ;)
How is the smell with this resin compared with regular resin?
Can i put back the resin after the print back in the bottle with a filter? On the packing it says "please do not put the resin in the slot back to the unused resin". I know from the anycubic resins, that is possible to fill it back to the bottle. is there a difference because it's water washable?
also on the sides of the disposable tanks are markers for how many mls are in the tank
One of the coolest features... I totally forgot to bring that up.
@@UncleJessy y'all got a link for those tanks?
@@UncleJessy Any chance we can get a link for those plastic tanks?
You use 8s exposure time with this resin? Why if I might ask? Everywhere online I'm seeing around 3s exposure times..
Why 8? that would almost triple printtimes from what I have now, so is the difference in quality really that noticable?
Anyone know what scale was used for his Gambit model? Scale to fit makes it too small and I don’t want to make it to large to fail
Can you share the link to the replacement resin trays
How long did the pans labyrinth model take to print?
What curing station do you use for this?
Interesting stuff! How do you dispose of the contaminated water?
By not drinking it.
@@Z-add What would happen if you did? I'm asking for a friend. I'm very worried for mys... For him.
Down the drain NERD
You place it in a container then leave it somewhere safe so it evaporates. It'd be best in a place where there is direct sunlight so the water evaporates quickly and the left over resin is cured.
What do you do with the water after the rinse?