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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction and Anti Intellectualism in Pakistan
1:30 Khalil ur Rehman Qamar
2:30 Samaa TV and Sahil Adeem
3:50 Sahil calling people beta
6:24 Ad Hominem Attacks
9:07 Red Herring and Jahil Kaun
13:30 Appeal to Authority and use of Blasphemy
18:30 Sahil Adeem's silence on social issues in Pakistan
19:30 Strawman fallacy
21:55 Sahil Adeem, Landcruiser and Boycott Campaign
31:00 Why we should all Speak Up
35:00 Backlash after our podcast with Sahil Adeem and Hypocrisy
42:00 Exploiting Religious Sentiments in Pakistan and Cult Mentality
43:38 Sahil Adeem vs Imran Khan
47:34 Sahil Adeem's silence on dangerous topics
50:00 Conspiracy Theories, Creating Narratives and the past 6 months
59:00 Revisiting our podcast with Sahil Adeem
1:01:00 Janu German Fallacy and Labelling Opponents Kafir
1:10:55 Rhetoric, Language and Snake Oil Salesman
1:17:14 Sahil Adeem's Argument makes no sense - บันเทิง
4 Fallacies explained;
1. *Ad Hominem fallacy*
This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument.
2. *Red Herring fallacy*
This fallacy consists in diverting attention from the real issue by focusing instead on an issue having only a surface relevance to the first.
3. *Strawman fallacy*
A straw man fallacy occurs when someone distorts or exaggerates another person's argument, and then attacks the distorted version of the argument instead of refuting the original point.
4. *Janu German fallacy* (coined by Shahzad Ghias)
A sesquipedalian who uses jargon, in other words a person who uses difficult words and language to make the argument nebulous and vague.
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@@ThePakistanExperience ab tu batai ga hamay ? baal tu pehlay sahih bana le apnay
@@asadahmed4993Red herring fallacy spotted.
@@kyleadam5243 jahil spotted
@@asadahmed4993 happy now?
'if you can't convince them, confuse them' - Harry S Truman
Apt
Isn't that what prophet Muhammad did?
@@trilokyamohanchakra6351sarey majhubo ka bunyadi Funda he 🤣
@@trilokyamohanchakra6351 All religions do that
@@GURUKHATRI-su4fs nope, prophet asked people(non Muslim )to get him a surah from the non-Muslims, they did, then he asked for 10 different ones, they again did, but this time he simply declared that theirs is not worthy but only his is coz he's the nabi, he is the last prophet Etc etc
Bro, it takes a lot to speak facts when ppl don't like hearing them. Hats off man
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I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
This is a blueprint to debunk all those clowns. Standing applause to TPE.
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@@ThePakistanExperiencekyun be chakke***
seems like you are talking about yourself
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
@@salmanjaved5660 👏👏👏👏👏
Hello , I'm a Bangladeshi woman ,today I just came across your channel and I was hooked ! I used to think most of the Pakistani people are morally bad and hate other South Asians like us. But after watching some of your videos ,I realized I was wrong. All of Pakistani people Sindhis , Balochistanis ,Kashmiris ,Pashtoons and Punjabis are locked in the hands of few elites and the Armed forces .I feel so sorry for you guys. We Bangalis got rid of Pakistani regiment in 1971 but you guys are still stuck with them and dealing with their atrocious behavior everyday 😅
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
Sorry to say if you are so misinformed and biased to have believed Pakistanis are morally bad and hate other south Asians. Woww and you think you did something by writing this comment.
It is probably you who need education to get out of your political biases and hate for other south Asians
It’s was your mukti bahini and Indian army which did propaganda
@@DarkEdgeMedia007 bhai hamare bndy bhi university mien ghuss kr firing kr aye thy...jis trah APS attack hua tha.
@@DarkEdgeMedia007Propaganda? You people still believe the propaganda which was fed to you by your army establishment? Your army killed innocent Bengalis, go and check UN language day and why that is celebrated all over the world. Your terrorist army killed your own baloch, pashtoon people also. Get out of this bubble created by your army and see the real world.
Finally, someone has spoken out against these individuals. I felt so ashamed to be a Pakistani when everyone was supporting their subpar acts
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Just shut uo😂😂😂
you and people like shehzad should be ashamed when the elections was rigged and looted.
Drama.
Please phir daffa ho jao yahan SA SAB Shezad jaisi KO b sath ly jana
Liberal fassadion , Ahmdis fittna SA Iqbal 😎🔥❤️ Ki nazryati Mulk ki Jan chooitty
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My parents always raised me by saying "never raise your voice, raise your argument". The only way pakistan is going to get out of their current predicment is having open discussion. Free speach is a corner stone of any democracy. Im glad to support you. Keep this going!
free speech about everything,,, even on religion or in religious figures of every religion ???
this can never happen in countries like Pakistan..🤔🤔🤔 specially on the basis of religion everyone wants to be think in same way ...
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Never is a very strong word here bro. Some of us are trying for change to happen.
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Free speech should be on everything, even religion. If one doesn't want his religion to be questioned, then make it a private matter and not have the system impose it on the population.
in Usa it’s called ponzi scheme like in salmon khan movie tum agay 4 logon ki help karo lol
Mr Sahil Adeem was once telling his Home incident when his mother didnot serve well guests and her husband ( Sahil Adeem Father) got angry later at her. But later apologised infront of their children.
So my question, Mr Sahil Adeem include his mother or family ladies in which Category. 95% Jahil or 5% ??
5%
@@user-bh6oj6qh9mkitne mard jahil hote he??
Exmuslim mulhid apostate jindabad
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
@@MuhammadAamir-dj9lg quran me slavery, loot, maleganimat, rape sab kuchh he. Sab kuch padhna chahiye.
Mtlb baat kya batayi ki ammi ka incidence yeh hua to sahil kitne percent m usko rkhta hoga...
Sahil ni rkhte kisi ko hamari knowledge humen khud un 5 ya 95 percent mein rkhti hai....aur yeh ladki ne bhi pata diya wo 95 waali hi hai...uski amma agar 95 waali hotin to wo aaj yahan n hote
The Country That Learns From TikTok and Social Media Instead of Books is beyond saving....
Instead of Quran to be precise. The first priority should be Quran.
Khalil qamar or whatsoever is a frustrated person, he feels good while insulting someone. He always needs to humiliate someone to prove himself correct
Yes. Empty vessels make the most noise
Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
@@snehajita9466itna sach bhi nhi bolna tha 😂😂 ye log bhookhe mar rahe h isliye kuchh change aaa rahi pakistan me warna ye sab jihadi h musalmaan h
Khalil ul Qamar ki biwi - neighbour ki marji
sadist type Banda hai bhai yeh mental torture hai.
when a man starts calling a woman "beta" or "bibi", you know he is losing it.
Yes
Jaanu, Baby, My love ye lafz kaha jaye?!😂😂
@runawayabdullah0 Aww someone can't admit facts and changing the topic to prove himself right. Chal bey bhagory Abdullah yk whát he means don't change the topic😂
Pura video dekha hai kisi ne Sahil ka,ya iski video me clip dekh ke machhri jande o saare
@ateeqahmedinamdar LMAO we know the context y'all doesn't knows that he is a self claimed scholar who doesn't even knows authentic hadith 😂
Any sane man would pick Easy Paisa and dive deep down. I just did. Save your country. Save this man.
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
Disagreements with Sahil are fine, but critics don't seem to want Muslim women to understand their rights in Islam. Regardless, this debate has prompted people to explore the concept of Taghoot, marking a significant win for Sahil in my view.
@@kashafburaid He can make mistakes; he's not all-knowing, and neither is anyone else. However, I won't dismiss him entirely due to a flawed understanding of certain things. Also, concepts in physics are ever evolving so please take everything with a grain of salt.Hope that makes sense!.
The 'conceptual' understanding of Taghoot is known by everyone. Almost everyone in Pakistan knows the meaning behind Taghoot. Shirk is a well-known concept.
@@SM-tl9ls If everyone knows the meaning of Taghoot then why is Taghoot everywhere in out society? Proves that we are jahils, not just the women. Sahil is right.
Finally someone talked sense. I was getting so frustrated due to the trash talk against women going on social media
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I am an Indian watching this, not only because it addresses Islamic extremism in Pakistan, but also because it can help us understand and prevent religious extremism in our own country.
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Indian issues are significantly different. Shehzad's views are worth every second watching it but situations in both the countries are not identical nor are the remedies.
In India the trouble is that Indian Muslims always voted to keep the BJP out of power.
This has also made more Hindu's move towards the BJP and since Hindu votes are more BJP managed to deny participation of muslims in governance.
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His views are universal and highlight the challenge of applying logic to religion. In countries like India, Pakistan, and other South Asian nations, it’s easy for people to be swayed by religious sentiments, which often allows leaders to push their agendas. When leaders are elected based on religious preaching or faith, it perpetuates the cycle of these countries remaining in the Third World. It’s disheartening to see our people so easily manipulated by religious sentiments.
Imagine our channels and universities are inviting them to lecture their students. 😮
Yeah what's wrong with our universities
I am a journalism student. A professor of my college asked me to watch some TH-cam channels, among which your channel was also included.❤love from india
indian arts colleges are filled with self loathing, pakistan loving professors. a mediocre channel/content in pakistanis being recommended by indian proff. the future of india is dull with such ppl in journalism. more barkha dutt, ravish kumar
height of low self esteem and insecurity
Woah!!!!!! Dude? Really? Fu!!!!!!! Man. Respect❤
Just beware of your professor. Some day he could also suggest you to watch Mia Khalifa videos to learn about women rights. 🥱🥱🥱
He's among few of the sane voices in Pakistan or i should say in whole sub continent
@@AamirAliyoutube yeah right. its like petting your own back. kuch indians ne tarif kya kar di.
indians listen to every1, indians suffer from low self esteem/self hate.
For me the saddest day was when asma jahangir passed away. People like you give me hope. I feel that our generation is not completely doomed, we do have some reminisce of AJ left in us.
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May Allah grant her the highest stage in Jannah. That woman fought for human rights when it was a taboo.
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
First time I heard it from fraudia number 1, Qadri in late 1990s. He used to say that 'Taghoot' is against PAT (Pakistan Awami Tehrik). Second time, I met a No-doltia in London who wanted to have fun in old age. He started a fake movie and started doing screen test in his office on Sundays (he even put beds in the office for the wanna be heroines). I asked him what is the name of your movie. He said 'Taghoot'. That was 2012. After 12 years, another fraudia is using that name... Buht Deen Faroshi ho gai hai.
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
@@MuhammadAamir-dj9lg You are just diverting the debate like that Taghoot -e- zamaana (Sahil Adeem).
جس شخص کو یہ نہیں پتہ کہ لفظِ طاغوت گرامر کی رو سے “فاعل” ہے فعل نہیں اور اس بچی سے اسرار کرکے پوچھ رہا ہے مجھے طاغوت کا مطلب بتاؤ۔ اور ساتھ یہ دہراتا جاتا ہے کہ پاکستان کا سب سے بڑا گناہ طاغوت ہے۔ لڑکی کچھ اور سوال کررہی ہے اور یہ اس پہ اپنی جھوٹی علمیت جھاڑ رہا ہے اور ساتھ ایک اور دریدہ دہن شخص ذلیل قمر بیٹھا ہے جو سوائے بکواس کے کچھ نہیں کرسکتا۔ اسکے کچھ ڈرامے ہماری قوم کو کیا پسند آئے یہ آپے سے باہر ہوگیا ہے۔ کیا کبھی اصغر ندیم سید، تارڑ صاحب یا امجد اسلام امجد صاحب کو بھی آپ نے ایسا کرتے دیکھا؟ یہ تو انکے جوتے کی خاک بھی نہیں۔ اللہ ان جہلاء سے بچائے آمین
یہ شخص انتہائی بدزبان اور بدلحاظ انسان ہے اور جہلِ مرکب ہے۔ جس شخص کو یہ نہیں پتہ کہ لفظِ طاغوت گرامر کی رو سے “فاعل” ہے فعل نہیں اور اس بچی سے اسرار کرکے پوچھ رہا ہے مجھے طاغوت کا مطلب بتاؤ۔ اور ساتھ یہ دہراتا جاتا ہے کہ پاکستان کا سب سے بڑا گناہ طاغوت ہے۔ لڑکی کچھ اور سوال کررہی ہے اور یہ اس پہ اپنی جھوٹی علمیت جھاڑ رہا ہے اور ساتھ ایک اور دریدہ دہن شخص ذلیل قمر بیٹھا ہے جو سوائے بکواس کے کچھ نہیں کرسکتا۔ اسکے کچھ ڈرامے ہماری قوم کو کیا پسند آئے یہ آپے سے باہر ہوگیا ہے۔ کیا کبھی اصغر ندیم سید، تارڑ صاحب یا امجد اسلام امجد صاحب کو بھی آپ نے ایسا کرتے دیکھا؟ یہ تو انکے جوتے کی خاک بھی نہیں۔ اللہ ان جہلاء سے بچائے آمین
54:01 *Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza*
He openly talks about TLP goons and the extremist mindset. He also talked about the Establishment in 2012 and is still anti Establishment and openly criticises them. He has faced 5 murder attacks but still he never backs away from speaking the truth.
murder attacks with needle , plastics etc 😂😂😂😂
@@user-nf3vo6hi2x murder attacks with knife as well. You will shit in your pants if someone from TLP attacks you even bare handed. So pipe down mate.
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
Thanks Shahzad for the logical deconstruction of the fallacies used by evaders and distractors. From purely a religious lens, Saahil's position was utterly vacuous, and clearly it was a failed attempt at evading the point in question. Let's dig deeper into 'Taaghoot'. Every kid growing up in Pakistan at some level knows what Taaghoot is, and that worshipping it is prohibited without knowing the actual word. The implied meaning of Taaghoot is any object of worship other than God. Saahil was posing to be very statistically oriented. If we do a survey among 15-year old boys and girls in Pakistan, do we really think that they haven't ever heard that "Worshipping anyone other than God is haraam". What's special in the Arabic word, Taaghoot, when a kid has read and knows that Idol worship is prohibited. So, purely from a religious perspective, the point Saahil was trying to pivot on was absolutely empty in addition to being a failed act of evasion. Hats off to the questioner for maintaining her composure. Khalil and Sahil felt intellectually vulnerable in her presence.
Brother Taaghoot bus yahi nahi ha ,, Yahi to Mas,aalah ha kay aap ko bus itna hi pata like jo hum jaisay sab Aam Muslims ko pata ha ,,, Bhai Allah Qur'an me bta raha kay Mahfoom " aap nay us banday ko dekha jis nay apni Khwahish e Nafs ko Khuda Bana liya ha" to bhai ab socho kay kiya dusron ki ibadat ha yahan? nahi ha yahan to apni zaat ki ha or yay sab kartay hain ,,, or Bachon ko bicharon ka is ka nahi pata abhi to wo grow hon gay seekh jain gay laikin kiya aap aisay sochtay ho? kiya mera Jism Marzi Taaghoot nahi ha?
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You know a lot about the term "taghoot". Do you the meaning of the word jahil
Taghoot doesn't only mean shirk, it have a vast meaning. If you ask other questions related to taghoot, people will fail to answer it.
Taghoot doesn’t mean shirk.
Taghoot means ‘Transgress’.
Because shirk is a major sin. And Allah describes sin as a person transgressing against himself. Hence Taghoot can also include shirk.
When I was a young doctor the examiners who were all professors (baba)
had a tendency to ask a difficult question and if you were unable to answer,you failed.
This was called fatal mistake.
Now when we are at that level we are trained to not fail anyone on fatal mistake.
I think all those who act as teachers of society should undergo some workshops of communication.
True. Pakistani medicine professors are the worst. I have been practicing iN US for 9 years now. Not a single UQ (university question) and viva questions of these babas have any relevance in today's medicine. It was all for their egos
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
As an Indian i appreciate the work you are doing. I may not agree wth everything you say but the work you are doing is extremely important. Keep at it.
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Your logical deconstruction of fallacies was profoundly insightful and elegantly articulated. It enhanced my understanding significantly. Excellent work!
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great job Shehzad putting this hypocrite in his place and good on that girl who stood up for herself
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@@ThePakistanExperience
Great Shahzad
Mujhe is sahil pay bohat Gussa tha 😂
Sahil adeem is a frustrated psycho-path 😂
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
Its a shame people lack such common sense to understand that she stood up only to embarrass herself further and to prove Sahil's point.
“I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight with you for your right to say it.”
While I disagree with you on religion and its very nature, you have done an excellent job exposing this charlatan. These people feed on people’s ignorance and desperation.
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Couldn't agree more 👏👍
@@ThePakistanExperienceIgnorant is called jahil if you search it in arabic references...A person Ignorant of the fact that they do not know about a certain thing Is called Jahil. Move on please....I know you are trying to help people understand certain things.....Don't create tangents with people......Just communicate what needs be known.....otherwise you ain't doing any good than them...and you know this.
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
From India. Thank you. Thank you and thank you.
This trick used by every trickster around the world including India and all other countries!!!
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The irony is that they shouted down the brave lady asking logical questions while preaching how the women should fight for their rights in a patriarchal society
Love You Shehzad
Sadly it seems that whole Pakistan is trolling this poor girl.
All of us should come forward and fully support her.
Never😂😂😂
Sorry.
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Lol..us ko tameez sikhao pehly bat karny kee😂😂😂😂
@@kamranshehzad7883 Bilkul sahi kha
We need more women like her to challenge
individuals like Khalil-ur-Rehman Qamar and Sahil Adeem. She is a
hero 💪😍
Lanat hai tery musalaman honay par
THARKI SPOTED😒😒😒😒😒😒
@@btwitx_basit1261Absolutely right
Idiot😂😂😂
mery bhai nahi milyge tujhy zayada hero na bun yahan
Sahil adeem classic nervous sign - (1)- Instant English speaking with gora uncle fake accent (2)- mouth got extra wet (3)- his eyes start dancing (4)- fake smile to pretend like he is still under control and last but not the least (5)- start uttering some random word from quran or hadith as a means of weapon to end the discussion to avoid any further embarrassment 😅
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Yup😂😂
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and Muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that Muslim men and women both are ignorant of the Qur'an. Some say that even men don't know what they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not know it correctly. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
Outstanding 😂😂😂
I don't know when this country will start unlearning the crap they've learned.
A mysogynist and jahil is called an intectual, writer, scholar and thinker. Welcome to Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
Where people are going crazy over zalil ur rehman - gentleman - what a sad state for Pakistani intellect :(
@taymiaali3215 yes it's sad that's why I never watch Gentleman.
As a Pakistani woman, thanks to azba and to you
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@@ThePakistanExperiencei think azba planted thei.. rating k liyee jo mil chuki hai
@@Mazxxiyeh bhi ussi ecosystem ka hissa hain
Azba is an employee of samaa. She didn´t do anything heroic. It was a stunt to milk views
@@talhatheoptimist8153 we have a saying in india, "Aurat hi aurat ki sabse badi dushman hoti hain"
I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
"i wasn’t prepared before talking to him" bro obliterated him 😭
Jo app Mr. Sahil ki naqal utartay ho, "I don't know" Epic hai 😂😂😂
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@@ThePakistanExperience please one show with mustafa & murtaza.same naqal.
@@ThePakistanExperience haan to phir ye personal attack nhi hua? woh kare to kutta, tum karo to tony lol
he himself does the ad hominem.
Now I know why Bangladesh get independence from Pakistan in 1971
Rehny dy bayy.. ye jo itna acha analysis dekha hai ye b Pakistani he hai
Well said
You don’t know much. Read / watch more.
Don't fool yourself, Richard Nixon arranged your independence.
Then you should go to bangladesh😂😂😂
You are very brave Shehzad, love your activism and work ❤❤
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mujhe to un logon par hairat ho rahi hai jo sahil adeem or khalil ur rehman qamar jeson ko scholars kehte hain
Shehzad, you, my brother, are a bright spark not just in Pakistan but in our subcontinent and the world as a whole. As a hindu, from India, your non apologetic and blasé approach in dealing with complex topics helps us in reviewing problems in our own spheres. I hope and pray for the best of your help and happiness. Scholars like you need to be protected at you at all costs. God bless you. Thank you for speaking up when everyone around you is shutting up. May the almighty shower their choicest of blessings on you and your loved ones. Best as always 💙🙏🏽
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“Kamzor John Wick” 😭😭
My favourite was leader of the gangrene gang 😂😂
Jahil Adeem
John Weak
John Weak 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am one of those people who dint like how you grilled him in your podcast (even though I think would have grilled him even more if I were in your seat just cuz of how angry people like these make me), but now I think he needed to be grilled even more. Ghatiya aadmi.
I’ve come to the realisation after reading the comments that both Indian & pak RW counters by terming them as “sickulars” 😭
WOW! THIS IS THE REASON I WATCH THIS PODCAST AND HAVE BEEN WATCHING IT FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. GREAT GUY, this is what making a difference is.
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100% of this comment section is educated. All of them know what "Taghoot" is.
I don't give a fuck if i know what taghoot is or not
I as a human being will make sure to keep my heart clean do hard work respect my relationships and take care of my family and friends and if after life the almighty will check my data he will find that i was a person who fulfilled my duties as a human being not knowing whatever the fuck taghoot was
Tum to kafur ho@@shubhampanwar5329
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It means arrogance...
Hindus are plagued with arrogance...
Caste system and racism...
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He is not ignorant, you are illiterate.
He is 100% correct.
There is no God.
Be a human first.
@sameersrivastava9296 I agree, with your comment but Sahil isn't a scholar don't drag my religion. There's no god but "ALL. AH" is
I wass sooo waiting for this when you mentioned in your last video that you were going to do a video on him. Going to watch it just now. Thank you for being so courageous and a hero of our society. Please do not discontinue TPE. I learned a lot from you.
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Thankyou Shahzad for making this video.
Keep up the great work man!
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Your "I don't know" impersonation of Sahil is just too hilarious..I kept laughing hysterically every time it came up...😅😅😅😅😅
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blasphemy laws are blasphemy against Democracy. these laws exist in India as well and many of us don't like these.
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Really? What are the blasphemy laws in India and any legal case about it recently?
What is the meaning of blasphemy?
apne liberals ko support karo....they r struggling...
I just feel sorry for that woman to be part of what can only called as an entrapment by these losers.
This was a necessary episode, thanks for doing this Shehzad, you are one of the fewest voices of sanity in this country.
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@@ThePakistanExperience big figures 🤣 for a person like you earn earn on someone else's name
Zaya Kardiye paisy.
typical feminist spotted , she tried to reject Quranic ayahs for her "western women rights",
@@MZ-wy1wbwo apni marzi se de ra... guilty feel kra k ni le ra
The way you talk on Baloch issue takes guts bro in this system ❤
Appreciation from a baloch
Hats off to you for speaking about this. May Allah protect you from all evils. Ameen.🤲
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One of your best Shehzad! Thank you for categorically and comprehensively debunking this fraud, an absolute embarrassment to my name 😂
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Papa 💓
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@@AmmarMohsin-zp6uija na bkl....
kitne me account bnwate ho thori promotion hamen bhi krani ha
Kamzor undertaker with fake accent 😂😂
I follow Sahil Adeem. But Brother, you have the courage to speak your opinion. In the End, we increase the intellect of our people through the arguments.
I love your point that Khabib should be the role model for our youth, then Andrew. Khabib should be the role model. Despite having the fame and money. He control himself and doesn't gain popularity by possing controversies like Andrew.
Khalil ur Rehman doesn't have self control or temperament control, Sahil does affective response with no factual discussions, and that T.V show female anchor, who was so impulsive that she was constantly interrupting before completely others argument.. zero professionalism..
Sir i from Tharparkar Sindh ,big fan of yours . Kindly invite somebody from our locality (THAR),so that we maybe able to share our side of stories.
What do you do living? Just asking
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Yesterday I watched his sahil's video, he is a bully, rational question ko religious answer de raha hai.😂 When Sahil doesn't know the answer he starts speaking english, his fans think English is the standard 😂😂😂
Jaanu German fallacy
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@@ThePakistanExperience bhai check the comment section of sahil in your podcast, maza ajata hai🤣😅 .
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Amazing new term "Jaanu German fallacy". Those who have watched the scene from old urdu drama will understand why Jaanu German fallacy is the best term to refer to someone who wants to impress others with his English, rather cover for his lack of knowledge through English 😂
Dude seriously your impersonation of his accent is making me laugh uncontrollably 🤣😭
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I apologize for being guilty of making exaggerated, snarky comments on illogical people.
I sincerely request you to produce a series of videos on illogical fallacies.
Thank you.
You're Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza 2.0 🔥 Both you guys throwing these thugs in Kachra ❤
Saw his clip on social media. It was horrible how he talked to that woman.
Shehzad thanks for standing up to it.
He also inadvertently called himself a jahil “Meri Beti jahil hai” 😂 classic Freudian slip
Natural girl99,Tumhe insanon ki baat samajh nahi ati,tum mujhe Allah ka Deen bataoge
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@@ThePakistanExperienceoh Bhai ghalat samajh gaye baat ko tum,pro feminist beta.
@@ateeqahmedinamdaroh Bhai Tu rehne de... Tujhe waisa hi seedhi bat Nahi samjh ani😂😂...just another egoistic person who has achieved nothing in life...
btw, Ad hominem fallacy is embedded in our culture tbh due to lack of literacy and productive debate. And yes, I wanted someone to call out Jahil Adeem for numerous statements because it was clearly contradicting with factual information. You did a great job and did your critical research. Hats off!!
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I like the way this guy speaks , eloquent presentation and seamless flow . I liked the sentence “ Pakistani jahil
Nahi hai ,,rakhagaya hai “
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@@ThePakistanExperience I appreciate you again , you have a knack for deconstructing and reconstructing arguments , also ability to make sense across the gallery , keep going .
اس مذہب پرست اور انتہا پسند معاشرے میں منطق پر بات کرنا خطرے سے خالی نہیں! آپ کی ہمت کو سلام ✌️ شھزاد بھائی اور مزمل بھائی ❤
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I dont understand why indians are commenting here... as it is our internal matter... something is going wrong
Another thing I have noticed is that when Jahil adeem feels threatened or speechless he puts on his brown gora accent.
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Where does he get this brown gora accent from? There is not much on this charletan's education
@@ThePakistanExperience ab yeh personal attack hai ya sticking to the argument?
@@qaipak1 it would have been personal if I had said that his hair do looks like mop used for cleaning floors
@@langkorn123that was brutal , one of the smoothest comebacks I’ve ever witnessed , such finesse 👏
Great job exposing pseudo intellectuals with pseudo accents 👏.
Young people like you, Shehzad, make me feel hopeful for Pakistan. More power to you and be safe ❤.
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Dear Shahzad,
Though I disagree with you on many things, and sometimes you raise my blood pressure, I love to watch your podcast. You challenge my beliefs and ideals, and I love that. I learn and unlearn a lot. I have watched almost all of your podcasts-I guess I’ve seen every video on your channel. However, Sahil’s podcast was the one I couldn’t get through. I tried three times but couldn’t get past the first ten minutes because I couldn’t understand his gibberish. As the mother of a toddler, that’s basically my job description! 🤣
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Shehzad, this was what we needed. Also I am halfway through, Sahil is also a Canadian/US citizen. Need to dig into this too.
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He grew up there ofcourse hes a citizen.
@@talhasaeed2552no problem for being a citizen. Problem is selling hate manjan against the same western society and making money off it.
Sahil is a confused person with a pseudo knowledge with a rude attitude
Well done brother you did a great analysis
Hats off to you 😊
Shehzad, you bring up an extremely useful topic that our country desperately needs. I studied logical fallacies back in 2006 in a critical thinking course and found it incredibly useful. Since then, I have evaluated every statement at this level and have freed myself from manipulation. I always try my best to provide training on fallacies to juniors at every job, but I often face significant restrictions from management, as manipulators will always oppose it. I appreciate your hard work in igniting critical thinking in the nation, and I fully support you in this effort.
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Our youth is currently manipulated in the name of religion...and they just follow each and every person blindly..they can't even tolerate any positive,constructive criticism....
The followers of Sahil Adeem are no exception. I made a video on sahil adeem and they just came to taunt me and humiliate me. They lack serious emotional intelligence. But I am glad that now more ppl would get the chance to see the picture of sahil adeem that I as a viewer wanted to show..but was unable to reach bigger audience.
Hope @thepakistanexperience make young ppl more aware of the critical approach obe needs to develop.
Thanks for raising your voice against not only this issue but various other topics like blasphemy etc. Our society is toxic, and it is the reason why we are a third-world country and a country that is surviving on loans. We are hypocrites. I will continue to support your work. Please remember that you are not alone. God is with you. And when God is with you, please refrain from going above and beyond to criticize an individual, instead criticize the ideology and their actions. God bless you!
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You may disagree with shehzad on some topics but you know this guy will speak out his mind, and he does his research before talking. And hats off to his honesty and candidness.
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Calling BETA to an adult woman is condescending.
@@Mass-dn1vuno?
@@Mass-dn1vu Why do you have to call anyone Uncle, aunty, beta or baby if they didn't ask you to call them by these names? Address strangers with their birth names.
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@@Mass-dn1vutry calling a stranger girl baby and you'll be tasting her shoe
@@Mass-dn1vu Im glad you are learning the basic manners and social distancing. I am not your maa, so please don't try to forcibly associate yourself with people.
You Nailed it ❤
May Allah protect you from evil.
Bro is the real evil....what are you even saying? lol
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ameen
Shehzad Ghias is to Sahil Adeem what Iqrar ul Hasan is to shuff shuff. LOVE IT
Great reminder, SHAHZEB BHAI. All of us OGs who have been following you for a long time thank you for your efforts, personal sacrifices & hard work ❤
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Shahbaz* 😂
The best ever Podcast!
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Okay Maam @@AmmarMohsin-zp6ui
@@roop502 I am not a Mam idiot. I am a boy😅😅😅
I couldn't thank you enough to expose this guy ❤
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Rohan hope you are not Sai Deepak fan 😅
Because cow belt ke hindutvaadi Pakistani liberals Ko dekhkar maje lete rahte hain
@@nikhildeshmukh6221 tujhe kyu farak padta h fir ? ..jisko jo dekhna hai dekhne de .
@@nikhildeshmukh6221 Uska tho nahi pata lekin thu tho pakka German Cockroach ka naajaiz aulad dikra 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@RohitSharma-oh8qm woh police hai, sabke aakhe dhakega kya dekhna hai kya nahi dekhna hai, doenst this sound like taliban?
I used to think his career is over after your interview but suprisingly he is still relevant.😂
Shehzad , The future is of cult and populsim with ISLAMIC TOUCH .
SAHIL ZALEEL and BAGHAIRAT RAJA has a bright future in Pakistan.
I wish someone genuine like you in India would invite Sadhguru to their podcast and give the same tremors which you gave to Sahil Chicha🤣
Kunal Kamra can do it
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@@ThePakistanExperience kis chutiye ka naam le liya bhai 😂😂 aap kabhi Acharya prasant ke vedioes dekhiyega
Javed akhter ne bold kardiya hai osa😂
Why dont you bring him in person to India ?
Your videos have really changed my views Shahzad!! I rarely comment on any videos but I have to let you know that you are really making a difference
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You literally nailed it in the end with Rhyming 😀, I am writing to show my support to your positive content. Surely your word are gonna make change one day INSHALLAH, Keep posting and Keep Shining. May ALLAH protect you from your enemies.
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shahzad bhai, I am 17 and i was one of the follower of Sahil Adeem but today you actually opened my eyes and made me realize that i was following the wrong guy. Thankyou.
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Listen to Sahil Sir carefully man
All the things Sahil Sir said were from the Quran And Hadith
All relevant Fallacies Beautifully explained. Janu German Fallacy is what defines Sahil Nadeem precisely
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Very well explained, and it's very sad that the female had to bear such a toxic environment.
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He never said that. He was pointing out the religious Jahalat among women.
@@FarhanTH-cam283 Still doesn't justify calling them jahil
@@FarhanTH-cam283he was saying 95% of women are jahil yet only considered men to be jahil at 25%. This country can’t even do a population or election census properly but his estimate is spot on based on what? Portals he observed whilst high (on deen ofc). the girl countered his point by saying that women aren’t actually jahil they are deliberately kept that way and still be the fragile egoist he is he kept interrupting her till khalil grand bharwa yelled bc he thought he’ll suffer from a cardiac arrest if he heard logic coming out of a woman’s mouth for 10s more
What does jahil means
Sahil Adeem claimed he had sample of women which means either he himself surveyed or had access to some survey showing 95% women to be illiterate. The lady should have asked politely if this figure of 95% was based on some survey instead of being offended and asking for apology. If Adeem’s reply were in negation then she would’ve been justified asking for apology.
Most Pakistani men use terms like 'beta', 'aunty', 'baji', etc., in a condescending way to demean women.
I loved learning about the fallacies in this podcast; it's probably your best one so far, loved the exposè. I knew about Sahil but had never heard him speak before. The snippets you played of him speaking were hilarious, and omg his fake accent. Kudos to you for tolerating him.
By the way, that 'I don't know' mockery was spot on; I couldn't stop laughing. 🤣🤣
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I wonder how so many people don't know the meaning of "taghoot", the word is literally mentioned in Qur'an so many times, and muslims are asked to do and go against it. For better or for worse, this Sahil Adeem controversy has brought to light that muslim men and women both are ignorant of Qur'an. Some saying that even men don't know which they're true in saying but this doesn't make you not knowing it correct. Both ignorant.
Taghut is anything and everything and being that goes against Allah. From false God to haram things.
If only Pakistan was a little more secular, maybe we could've stayed together. Your are doing great job man. Damn respect from Bangladesh 🙏
Never knew Bangladesh is secular?
@@FarhanTH-cam283One of the main reasons behind our liberation war was secularism. It's a secular state till this day. But yes there is ample room for improvement towards an ideal secular state. We do have some islamic fundamentalist groups. There are many organisations that are lobbying to get every islamic political party banned.
@@SARTAZ_AZIZ Aa far as I know or seen Bangladesh online, Bangladesh is more religious and conservative than Pakistan.
@@FarhanTH-cam283Not really.
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Probably the best and intellectually sound content I've seen in a while from Pakistani Creators. Keep up the good work.
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@@ThePakistanExperienceDil Khush kr dia Shahzad ❤❤❤ 😅😅😅
Really great podcast. People who mislead viewers using religion should in some way be penalised. Free expression does not mean that false information can be given out as self proclaimed scholars. Great job Shahzad.
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The sudden accent change while you mimic sahil , too good 😂 "I DON'T KNOW" 🌝
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Sahil is such a menace that he pushed Shahzad to defend Imran Khan and kind of agree with Mufti Tariq Masood. Imagine the level of chutiyapan required to do so
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From observing Sahil Adeem for a time, There's one thing he is very good at:
Psychology.
The guy understands the psychology of our people especially our modern youth and clearly knows how to deal with them and sell his "Munjun"
And he is very good at it as well 😂
Baki ke bacho ko Mcdonald KFC jalaaney do aur khud V8 Landcruiser mei mazey karo 😂😂
Salesman acha hay bus
True @@ThePakistanExperience
Exactlyyyyyy...i am glad that someone also noticed that...!
Psychology...or you can call it "manipulation of psychology".
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You are doing a good job by exposing people like Sahil Adeem. But one suggestion when you use English terminology like strawman fallacy etc...., then you should try to explain it in Urdu by actually using Urdu words, not by reusing key English words. (Otherwise you are just explaining it to yourself, not a to wider audience) Like Ghalat fahmi paida karna, putla kharha karna... etc..
@@ThePakistanExperience..he is not good salesman..qaum jahil hai pakistan ki
The last argument "how dare you judge". When watched that podcast I was thinking how is he blatantly comparing apples with oranges? What kind of "intellect" he is? There are people who actually believe Sahil is an intellect. All TPE podcasts that I have seen, you have always allowed guest to express them. For some reason Sahil thought this was a one on one competition. Anyways, hats off to you for making this podcast and I hope this must have opened minds of many of his "followers". Kudos to you.
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Outstanding work, brother. It takes immense courage to confront these demons, and you have plenty of it. Proud of you.
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I am from India. I was wondering when I saw your podcast with Sahel Adeem where your behavior with him was strange. Your behavior toward him was somehow rude. I knew you as a clam and gentle man. So your behavior that day felt strange to me. I didn't know this person. Now I understand what's behind that behavior. Well done, Gias Bhai. Well done. This kind of poison deserves that kind of counter. Hats off to you. Keep it up and stay safe (you know why I said that).
Same here, I also quit watching that interview in the middle of the video and thought shehzad is going below the belt. Now I understand why he was doing that.
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@@ThePakistanExperienceto be honest, you were way softer than what this jahil deserves and kudos to you considering this was your 4th podcast that day
@@DesignbyBK sach bol rae challenge ker rae tumare self-proclaimed bhagwan ko to ye bhai rude hogya :P great... nice one.
I was watching Sahil Adeem's interview with journalist Sabee Kazmi. Although Sabee was biased in his views, he asked Sahil a very simple question: "You champion the Palestinian cause and call out people, as you did with Khan. Tell me, 1. What have you done for the Palestinian cause in terms of actionable steps? "No answer" he went of ad hominem for the second time and called him "beta" again 2. sabee says can you even name five cities in Israel or Palestine? "Sahil was completely blank and seemed to be on the verge of doing a Google search, which Sabee immediately called out. Sahil then conveniently showed his hands on camera to clarify that he wasn't doing a Google search. yeh tu haal hai iska
ab jahil kon sabit howa?
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Differences aside , if you seriously aren't aware of his connections with Hamas and to be pertinent his Jordanian teacher Muhammad and Palestinian Shaikh Saleh than bro what can be said here.
Even Sabi hadn't his homework completed and was asking childish questions like kitnay shehar hien Israel hai 😢
You might disagree on his ideology but he lives by and around it .
Ab ye to level hai apka bhi btaya is liye nii k usy PTA tha sb Kuch ye sahil bhi ki insult the k wo is swal k jawab dety. Ap NY unka kam dekha nii Palestine k bary main abi. Kabi moqa Mily to bethna unk sath
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@@kasharwaqassheroo6790ye kya beat hui😂😂 aap interview Kar rahe hain, sawal ka jawab dena chahiye. Nahi toh ghar baithen, chup chaap.
This is precisely why clergy and priests and even official 'scholars' are discouraged and disallowed in the Islamic tradition. We are all asked to use our aql and other reasoning and linguistic faculties to interact with the Book and also our life context, not relying on every Sahil, Qadri, and Hari to tell us what to believe.
The way you've explained has changed my way of thinking and the perception of different theories. ALLAH SWT bless you.
Requested you to please concise the video, and also make another channel for these types of subjects. This one shall be used for podcasts only and another one for explaining different types of theories like this fallacy.
Jazak ALLAH
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