I found the update. He got his money back and the IRS stopped threatening to demand more money if he didn't shut up and accept their theft. Thanks to Institute for Justice.
@@RossMalagarie Agreed! Glad the bad guys got shut down. The IRS was literally stealing over 60k then trying to put an innocent man in prison. I hope he sued for damages and suffering.
Imagine if you were driving 52 in a 55 mph zone, and got arrested for driving "too close to the limit"? Civil forfeiture is another word for armed robbery
Ha! Type that into TH-cam. Watch a man get a ticket (black dude) get a ticket for driving 1 mph under the limit for impeding traffic on a road with no cars.
@@joejacko1587 there is literally a video of a black man being pulled over because he was wasn't going the listed speed limit. The officer said it was suspicious....
In Canada it went from ill gotten gains if convicted in a court of law seized to civil asset forfeiture laws similar to the US and Canadians have no idea unless it happens to you.
It is outlawed. It’s called the constitution. It’s mind boggling that the government gets away with stealing money from people who have not been found guilty of anything. It’s just outright theft.
@Phoenix Phyre --- IRS AGENTS are not law enforcement agents. They are protection racket organized criminal gangsters. The IRS is not an agency that is connected with the United States government and neither is the Federal Reserve Bank. The Federal Reserve Bank and the IRS are both privately held corporations that were incorporated in the traitor state of Delaware in the years 1913 and 1936 respectively. There is no law in United States Code Title 26 (the income tax code) that says that the individual U.S. citizen is legally obligated to pay the Federal or the State Franchise Income Tax. Income Tax is Voluntary. Income Tax is not Mandatory. :-I
@Leonard Chornomaz If the person they're interviewing is the one they're accusing of being a perp then they MOST DEFINITELY need a warrant or to plainly state that they're the one under investigation as that they have a right to refuse!
“If you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about.” I laugh at people who claim that they have no fear of the government because they’ve done nothing wrong. The government can at any time conjure up a myriad of laws to indict any innocent person.
They don't have to conjure up any laws, they already have so many laws that no matter which direction you step off on you are breaking a law. It's like walking on a beach while trying to avoid stepping on the sand.
That is true. If you're wealthy they can come after you financially. If you own land they can attack on environmental regulations basis. I had a friend who was practically in a legal war with the US government because of some dirt he moved around on his property (because he lived near a small stream). Somebody even broke into his HOUSE and stole his legal defense documents right before he had to go to court. The outcome of his drawn out trial, tons of wasted money and even JAIL time was a VICTORY. Rarely when the lawsuit says "John Doe vs. The United States of America" does John Doe win. But he did.
Probably made a suggestion that turned out to net them millions of dollars. Thus, the person who invented "legal theft" likely gets 10% of money seized. Great for them and funding the IRS but not so good for the innocent persons caught in this governmental scam. The fact that it withstands judicial justice in court scares me.
@@dorasmith7875, but the law wasn’t meant to be used against people never convicted of a crime. Courts have allowed this to happen and the legislature need to stop it and and put penalties on public servants that exceed their authority. If the action requested by the government is questionable, then a judge needs to get involved to check if our rights are being violated before they act. Something has to be changed where citizens are not being unfairly put on by government employees.
@@Milosz_Ostrow The People. They were told it was to get forfiet assets from drug dealers. They took away property from grandmothers just because their grandson took their car to get groceries and got pulled over for a joint. Government should never have the right over private assets unless there is due process and a court orders it.
Their bank doesn't deserve to handle their money either. No one bothered to warn them that what they were doing could potentially be construed as a crime. Also, how exactly could you be evading taxes when the IRS has access to the bank records‽ th-cam.com/video/5fifKAXyrY8/w-d-xo.html
That's why people are going the old fashioned way. Put your money in a safe and hide it. That way if the IRS tries anything at least the person has the money stashed away.
In addition to the case being dismissed, the ultimate good news here is that the law was changed in 2019 to basically say that the IRS may no longer seize money on the mere suspicion of structuring. Instead, they now have to prove that either (1) the property was derived from an illegal source, or (2) the funds were structured for the purpose of concealing a violation of the law or regulations other than the structuring law in and of itself.
@Everythings Eventual dumb because you say it is? Hilarious lol. Well I hope the law painfully fucks you over then since you’re so supportive that there has to be innocent victims who go through unneeded stressful turmoil. The laws validity was never disputed here either, just the poor execution of the system at enforcing it properly. Try reading and comprehending next time with your trigger happy keyboard fingers. If you found my statement to be “tough” then you’ve never had real problems in your life lmao. You are thick in the head bub 🤣 let’s not make up shit arguements just because you want to feel “tough” 🤣 I want to be a part of a conversation because I have empathy for innocent victims? Pure Comedy lmao go kiss the ass of corrupt law enforcement then
Good point, assuming they follow the law. But with 87,000 new IRS agents being unleashed upon America by the Biden Administration now in Aug, 2022, the question becomes what other laws will they violate as they "audit" (i.e., strong arm) Americans taxpayers for every little penny?
How did they get their money back? I thought once the federal government seized your assets it didn't matter if you were guilty or not, you don't get it back. I also don't understand this structuring thing. It could be suspicious if you consistently had more than $10,000 to deposit and consistently deposited in smaller amounts, but I don't see how it should be a CRIME, just a practice that should call attention to what you might be trying to conceal. But a small business that does nightly deposits is not likely to have $10,000 to deposit, that's ridiculous.
@Ignatius Q. Snerd, II, Esq. another example of government using the argument of protecting citizens, to hide the truth that government is stealing from citizens.
Where do you think that the 87000 new IRS agents will focus? Ain't gonna be on the people or corporations with the accountants and lawyers, I can tell you that much!
I think they see it as an easy win. Billionaires will fight them in court even if they're guilty. They are counting on middle class Americans not having the money to defend themselves in court.
They take civil action against the property. Property does not have rights, and a civil case is preponderance, not beyond a reasonable doubt. The legal documents would have state v $50,000 instead of state v maki like a case against you. It may be your money, the case is not against you. They may charge you in some other case that has to do with the money though.
@@itsmemailingyou4234 that is something that is and always has been insane, though. Legal action is to be brought against people, not items. Items can't have wrongdoing or mens rea, how can they be culpable? Also, the government pressing any kind of civil case is nonsense as well, all govt cases should be criminal in nature or not exist. Either you broke the law or you didn't.
@@itsmemailingyou4234 To say "property does not have rights, therefore I can take it from you" is the most idiotic justification for stealing that I have ever heard.
@@DieselRamcharger Likely his bank reported him for suspicious activity. Banks are required to report deposits and withdrawals larger than $10K. But, many will report repeated transactions of lesser amounts, say $5K, if they think a person or business is trying to evade the $10K limit. That is structuring.
Michelle Green Yeah, my mother voted for the dude, TWICE and back in 2008 when I was 13 I asked her “the fuck are you thinking?” Obviously without the colorful language but I sure as hell was thinking it
This is True. I knew a Semi homeless girl caught .. Driving Drunk, evading the police, No insurance, no registration. NO PROBLEM. No money! Probably spent 5 days in jail.
@ochaleklaw Agreed. Some states are reasonable, others look more like a Nazi stronghold, which wants to take our rights and freedoms. The Left are fearful of the citizens, and probably rightfully so.
They ARE the criminals. The U.S. caters to the rich. Hard working people are the ones suffering. Always. They will make us pay for every little bump in the road while the rich get tax deductions and incentives. That's why we are i. The predicament we are in right now. We've been hit with stay at home orders and our jobs have been shut down while the rich are getting richer off us shopping at big businesses where they have their money invested. Small businesses are nothing but a nuisance to the government.
He miss spoke when he said armed iOS agents because the IRS does not carry guns they would have been United States treasury agents. I have worked with them in the past.
@@dirtybomb32 Not according to everyone else: IRS Criminal Investigation Division - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_Criminal_Investigation_Division
You need to go back to the past 5 years of weapons (M16s) and ammunition sales by federal Agencies. The parks service is pretty well armed. Don't dump tras in a National Park or you migt get wasted.
What do you expect? The IRS realizes what they're doing is fucking scummy so they issue firearms to their agents so that they can protect themselves when someone inevitably decides "y'know what? fuck you" and starts attacking them.
Getting your money back isn't enough. A 'misunderstanding' is one thing. What the IRS did, an arguably existential criminal organization itself, is a crime. Punitive damages.
And those punitive damages need to be paid by the supervising agent and the director of the field office that pursued it, along with the lawyers that facilitated it.
Glad you said it, Madeline ! THAT is something that pisses me off about law enforcement. They can be on the spot to write me a ticket for parking more than 10 inches from the curb, but I get scammer calls every day and scammer mail frequently as well trying to cheat me out of thousands and law enforcement at every level says "can't do much about it, there is a do not call list" and the "do not call list" is worthless as hell. Also if a bank or insurance company screws a customer out of some huge amount of money, it is ALWAYS a "civil matter, to be discussed in civil court", but if some kid steals a $25. pair of cheap tennis shoes from WalMart, he goes to jail.
I rarely get scammer calls on my personal phone now. I was traveling a lot and would use that time to keep them on the line as long as possible. I would get them screaming and cussing angry at me. I thought it was very funny. They rarely call me anymore. The company phone they call in Spanish. I wish I was fluent.
Charging someone with "structuring" as a primary offense without first charging them with a crime that is commonly accompanied with structuring such as larceny (monetary) is like charging someone with failure to ID when there is no crime associated to justify a lawful demand by an LEO to ID in the first place.
"Structuring": A means by which the government can seize your money, no matter how much you have, without having committed an actual crime of any kind.
@@rollingthunder4599 so are the Court's. That gold Fringe around the flag means maritime law That's why the courtrooms are made of wood to emulate a ship. When a lawyer passes the bar he's welcome on the ship.
Identify yourself? Dafuq hell no. I'm a minor I need a lawyer. I don't care if you're toothless with a head of white hair. I'm a minor. I need my lawyer.
I once did an entire 5 minute interview with various inflections and stylizations of _"I WANT MY LAWYER!"_ They labeled me _uncooperative_ and I never got my lawyer.
Just be clear you are not refusing to talk to them, make sure you state you will talk with legal council present. Then they cannot hold it over your head.
@@bluemopdisaster6445 You wonder what the reason was McVeigh bombed a federal building, then you hear stories like this. I see why he turned against the government
warpnin3 Happened to me. The IRS sent me a notice a few months ago saying I fudged my taxes and took out a bunch of money I made, which I never made. They wanted $7,000. I sent them my W2 forms along with the notice to show I wasn’t even close to their estimate of how much money I made. Have not heard back from them. If they do, I will have a lawyer. I have three of them in my family.
The IRS is nothing but a hiding place from the criminal FEDERAL RESERVE. For every dollar they print from NOTHING, we owe them two dollars back. Our taxes go to perpetual debt. The federal reserve are the real criminals, it is not of the people, but of the elites.
@@TheSiriusEnigma Was he arrested? Or was he raided and then after just notified his money was taken? If he was not taken into custody I am right. If he was then your point is valid.
@@TheSiriusEnigma He didn't ask for a lawyer. He said "Maybe I need a lawyer" but never demanded one. The minute they told him that he didn't need a lawyer, he should have demanded one anyway and refused to speak until the lawyer got there...
“You don’t need a lawyer while we proceed to investigate, question, and steal from you” Yeah, I’d call my lawyer and start filming right then and there.
"Just obey the law and you have nothing to fear" ...except for having your livelihood stolen based on some obscure statute that wasn't intended to be applied in this manner to begin with.
of course it was, you just didn't get it, still believing your quote at that time! don't you all know "they hate us for our freedoms" like George w. confessed?
@Leonard Chornomaz What I think is strange. If the reporting amount is $10,000. , then how was the IRS involved? I thought they only KNEW or we're required to know of deposits of $10,000 or more. It tells me the IRS is watching ALL deposits. Also, 99.9999% of people in the USA routinely deposit less than $10,000. So that means we are all being watched.
Just imagine that their are people in the IRS making six figure salaries plus bonuses to make a criminal out of honest hard working people like this man. Even though they can target groups of people for their political beliefs and lie to congress and plead the 5th and retire with full benefits and call us criminals.
HA! 6 figures my arse. Its going take '6 figures' in attorney fees for the poor baker to recover his money. If you 'think' the already bankrupt government gives a rip abut innocent people when there is 'revenue' to steal ...... .
@@RileyFreeman8 lol ya because their per diem, healthcare, comrats, travel, and clothing allowances are chump change hu? Not even mentioning if they have children
Yes they should. But see, a lot of people weren't paying attention and freely gave over those rights and generally speaking once you waive a right you don't get it back. (For example this guy freely gave up his right to counsel and was detained and interrogated for a couple hours, most likely because he didn't want to appear guilty. Never EVER trust anybody who says you don't need an attorney or it'll be easier if we talk inside) And so now it's going to take a massive overhaul in order to put the government back in its place. My beagle used to catch a scent and would bolt (luckily to the same bush most of the time lol) and trying to pull a pure hunting dog away from whatever, without any trained hunting commands was next to impossible. So in order to pull the government back, we the people have to train the hunting dog to drop a scent. (It's 3am and I can't sleep so this all makes sense to me at the moment. Just ignore if it's a bunch of gibberish lol)
The government controls the military, navy, air force and law enforcement. That is why they do not fear the people. The 1% controls the 99% because the 1% has "The Bomb" ... literally.
@TheRaellz Why have there been no arrests ? The constitution is only valid if people defend it and all I see is a big orange goon who calls himself a president offending and violating the constitution 6 ways to Sunday and nobody does a thing about it. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the reality of the situation spits in the face of your defense. WAKE UP ! Trump orders missile strikes, every president in US history has had a war of one sort or another and that is political power directing and approving military action. Once again sir ... WAKE UP !
Central banking through the west created more problems than solutions of controlling money flow and patterns of economy ups and downs! It's a DISMAL FAILURE for the common folk!
Thank heavens for the Institute for Justice. Your work has been so inspirational to me that I almost want to go to law school to work for you after my first career ends in 4 years.
IRS is not part of the United States Government. It just rents space in Federal Buildings to give you the illusion it is. Check the IRS charter passed by Congress. It's a Private Charter... The IRS originated with the Commissioner of Internal Revenue, a federal office created in 1862 to assess the nation's first income tax, which was to raise funds for the American Civil War. The temporary measure provided over a fifth of the Union's war expenses and was allowed to expire a decade later. In 1913, the Sixteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified authorizing Congress to impose a tax on income, and the Bureau of Internal Revenue was established. In 1953, the agency was renamed the Internal Revenue Service and significantly reorganized. The Internal Revenue Code of 1954 was renamed the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 by section 2 of the Tax Reform Act of 1986.
@Tread Knought Are you high? You cannot be a patriotic American while enforcing illegal, usurious, and treasonous laws against your fellow citizens. "Patriotic LEO" is an oxymoron.
Ten years ago I divorced a very controlling and abusive man. Two years later, I went to my bank as normally I did to make a deposit. It was at that time that I learned ALL of my money from checking and savings had been taken by the IRS. I was devastated. I immediately called the IRS...at first I spoke calmly. I learned that my ex owed the IRS a large sum of taxes. Apparently, he hadn’t paid taxes for years and they finally caught up to him and being the lying, conniving manipulator that he is, he told them what state i resides in and to go after me for the money. I became enraged. In the first place I had never signed my name on anything with him, including tax forms. I didn’t mean to cry, but I did. I told the gentleman about how my ex was a user and how I was never allowed to have my own money... money that I had earned. I told him I had never signed tax returns with him and had not seen him in 3 years, yet I was still paying his way. Furthermore, I had two children that I received no support for and that I had always worked and paid my taxes and it was not right for the IRS to take my money to pay his taxes, because he defied the government. I truly was sobbing. I was so sick of that leech and just couldn’t take anymore. The IRS was truly a gentleman and said he would get back with me. The next day at 1pm my banker called to tell me that all of my money had been returned to my accounts. I could hardly believe that the IRS had done that. I really think it had to do with the gentleman that I spoke with. He saw that I had never co signed with my ex and that we had been divorced for 2 going on 3 years. I was so grateful that I just got the right agent... who had a heart.
So 8 years prior to this posting , you claim the IRS took all the money you had in the bank due to your ex husbands shenanigans . You call the IRS to find out what happened , you complain , explain and cry . Then 24 hours later your bank calls and says the IRS had returned all your money back to your account ? Absolute bulls***. Not a chance in hell this happened .
Update: In May 2016, David and Larry teamed up with the Institute for Justice to demand that the government return all of the $68,382.22 seized from the bakery and end its profit-motivated fishing expedition into the bakery’s finances, as well as the government’s abuse of prosecutorial authority to pressure property owners to agree to forfeiture. Law enforcement should not be using the threat of jail time to fund its budgets. Hours after IJ filed its motion demanding the return of the bakery’s money, the IRS capitulated and agreed to return the money in full. The IRS initially stated that it was going forward with its retaliatory grand jury investigation, but just weeks later the IRS announced that it was withdrawing its subpoena as well.
The American people should stop paying federal income taxes completely. We get nothing for our tax dollars. The IRS picks on the little people who can’t afford lawyers to help them fight. Meanwhile, Amazon pays nothing.
The IRS and the Federal reserve both need to be dismantled and forever done away with, and the same goes for the CIA. They're all corrupt and worthless entities.and while they're at it there are some in these institutions who need to be executed for their crimes, as well as others that need to be sentenced to 60 plus years so as to assure the semblance of a life sentence. But of course if a Democrat work to get in office there would be NONE of these things EVER happen.
@@scottpatrick8352 I agree Scott. I tried to like your comment but this sorry lowlife entity called TH-cam has fixed it to where I cannot like a lot of comments. It will allow me to dislike or to reply. TH-cam is such a lowlife entity.I'll be so glad when President Trump takes them out like he's going to do with the fake news media.
I’ve been depositing about 18k once a month on the 21st. During the winter my business was slow and I only deposited around 8k once a month for about 3 months. The irs came to my door saying I was structuring and took over 100k from my bank account. Case got dismissed and I counter sued for damages and loss of work and credibility to my business which I won and cannot speak about the settlement.
I would have put heavy claims against their surety bond! Charged them with acts of terrorism and treason! Three claims on their Bond, and they can NEVER EVER hold any public office or government job ever again in any of the 50 states! We need to be doing this more often! We are the law not them!
@@cautious1343 I have no books, but there are several law teachers that have posted lectures and are very clear and straight forward. Easy to fallow, using common language and not legalese. Constitutional law is the key! I will update this soon as I hunt down some sites to maybe start you off with.
My wife and I were accused of not paying taxes in the state we lived. When I was stationed there in the military. We only had to pay for our state/home of record which we did. We sent the correct paperwork work multiple times to the irs and they said they never received it even though they had to sign for it. We got a lawyer which we couldn’t afford and he sent the paperwork as well. Still they said it was never received. At this point they took what they said we owed plus fees and fines due to late payment. We decided to give up trying to fight it because of the cost was too high for us. The gov is unfortunately crooked there is nothing a lot of us can do. I’m glad it worked out for these brothers.
I feel your pain, I'm on that same boat. And interest this for late this And that just ridiculous sadly many Americans quietly suffer at the mercy of these leeches.
In my state there is a legal aid group. This group of lawyers can take a case for a fee based on income. No one should be steam rolled like you were because of financial difficulty. For others in need and facing these accusations of crimes - please look into your own state's legal aid societies.
Sorry about your situation but you or your lawyer could have hand carried the paperwork to the nearest IRS Office and have an Agent sign for it. That's what I did. One time I made an appointment and settled it right there with the Agent with all the required paperwork with a confirmation letter the matter was settled. It's time consuming but they had no excuses of not recieving paperwork.
The government is owned by billionaires just in case you hadn’t checked on that they will always pay next to nothing and get richer while you get poorer
When we had a new medical practice, after about a year, the IRS came after us for not sending in Payroll taxes that we withheld from employee checks. We had the cancelled checks showing the IRS received and deposited the money. they denied ever receiving it. they were threatening to seize our accounts, houses, etc ( of course we had no money at that time, only a line of credit from the bank). when we talked to an agent on the phone, we were told not to worry if we had the cancelled checks. My partner didn't believe him and called and got another agent who completely negated what the first one said, and said we should be worried. eventually, it all got sorted out after many calls and hours on hold. But you will get different answers from the agency, lawyer is prob best.
@@rayt5520 the government should be pay per use like they used to before taxes existed. Like, pay a charge for taking the highway, you don't like it, take the back roads.
SaulOhio when the fed is gone no need for their collection agency. It s sell just funding their neo agenda. If you don t want dead in two years take a stand now. Their population estimates are we will be at 125 million in 2025. That s half. Are connected to be included in the living. Belief is immigration is to bring in populations with plagues like Ebola that will bring massive deaths
Corruption prevents it. But, you can personally inflict some punitive damage on these traitors. That is the one and only reason we have a 2nd Amendment.
They've got more than enough people to answer the phone. They just don't want to and there's nothing we can do to stop them. Typical givernment out of control. When everyone is losing their business, home, their job, they know they'll get paid even when they sit at home.
The U.S was lost to foreign private bankers in 1913, when the federal reserve act was signed. This is when the IRS started, and foreign private bankers assumed the sole right to issue U.S currency.
Banks, casinos, and many other places are required to fill out forms any time you do transactions with cash, especially if over $10,000. So the bank didn't have a choice. Any bank they changed to would have done the exact same thing.
@@Jaradis So you are not supposed to care that they smiled, said have a nice day, as they jabbed a knife in your back. No, I would be done with that bank. I would tell them exactly what I thought those scum bag low life's. I would let them know that it would unhealthy if ever saw me again, any of them. Damn them all.
@@xerxes8632 It's Federal Law, every single bank is required to do it, as are numerous businesses that deal with potentially large cash transactions (casinos, car dealerships, etc). But sure, go ahead and tell them off Mr Tough Guy.
@@xerxes8632 its a federal law every cash handling agency has to follow. Example say your looking to purchase a boat you pull $5k from your checking account when the bank opens that starts whats called a money tranaction log. The deal falls through you take the 5k back to the bank and deposit it the mtl now shows 10k in cash tranactions and triggers currency transaction report that goes to the federal government. This is to prevent using the banks to launder money. Consistently deposting cash under 10k becomes suspicious according to the government. For more info look up title 31
Extortion !!!!!! It's like they want businesses to just do electronic transactions. Money is supposed to be legal tender for any debt public or private. Okay, I read the article where they got their money back, but the government should owe them for trouble, and legal expenses.
The IRS is not a government agency. They are a privately held corporation that is acting as the collection agent for another privately held corporation known as the Federal Reserve Bank. IRS agents are nothing more than protection racket organized criminal gangsters. The Federal and State Franchise board Income Tax are Illegal and Unconstitutional. It is all based on fraud. :-I
@@deano.7533 Oh shut up you fucking ignorant jackass. But technically you're half right. The IRS isn't actually an agency of the United States federal government. It's also not an agency at all. What it is, is a Bureau of the department of the treasury. Or in other words, it's part of the department of the treasury. And the department of the treasury *IS* an agency of the United States federal government. Dumbass.
They go after small business because they don't have the man power to go after big corporations and small businesses can't stay around long enough to fight them. Happened to Me 4 years ago
It wasn't Ford who said this quote. Thomas Jefferson was the person who said this. And Benjamin Franklin said a person who exspects the government to completely provide them w all their basic needs and safety deserves neither.
Not the point that law was for drugs dealers and big crime businesses... That law need to go, I hope you guys win and get that law change... I would try to get your Congress people involved. Good luck
First you dont have civil rights, you have unalienable rights as an individual. Civil means EVERYBODY. Everyone has the same rights as one person. And second, the government lies all the time and that isnt a crime, unfortunately. If it was a crime punishable by death to lie to the american people, none of this shit would ever happen.
You are right, but try taking that to court. There isn't a single federal judge that will back you because they all are owned by the federal government.
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Justin Ferguson they intimidate people to hang themselves. I know the tax code me and many others do and know how to not be liable. Correct the record. Wages defined in the code is federal pay. Go to peter Hendrickson videos and see testimonies
Your rights don’t just get activated when you’re arrested. You ALWAYS have the right to remain silent and to have an attorney present during questioning. Know your rights!
Then God for them getting their money back, But it's truly sad they had to go through that experience, And who pays them for their lawyer fees or just their time and stress and all the hassle
I've never even heard of structuring! The most infuriating thing is how millionaires and billionaires screw the system and pay nothing but never get investigated but a hard working, middle class business man gets this kind of abuse.
Oh don't fall for the socialist lie. They go after and tax the hell outta the rich too. That's why they need to use so many loopholes and offshore accounts. Governments bleeds everyone except themselves.
What lie? If you don't think rich people and corporations pay taxes you're nuts. Not to mention the millions of people they employ which then leads to more taxes. So the rich guy who feeds 1000's of families and pumps millions into the economy every year shouldn't get a tax cut. But you deserve one?
Business only makes $8000 profit a month and deposits $8000 every month. IRS: Yeah theres a consistent deposit amount of 8 Grand a month and that's illegal, so we'll just stea... I mean fine you.
June 9, 2016- "The Internal Revenue Service appears to have quietly ended years of attempts to prosecute Vocatura’s Bakery over large cash bank deposits the business made. Lawyers representing Vocatura’s said Thursday the IRS has agreed to withdraw a grand jury subpoena it issued to the longtime family bakery at 695 Boswell Ave., two weeks after it agreed to return $68,000 in cash it seized in a raid at the bakery three years ago. “This is a prime illustration of the way civil forfeiture distorts law enforcement priorities,” attorney Robert Johnson, who is representing Vocatura’s Bakery, said in a statement. “The IRS seized the Vocaturas’ money for no real reason and spent three years trying to find a way to keep it. Now, after putting the Vocaturas through the wringer, the IRS is walking away from a case it never should have started in the first place.” Through his attorney, owner David Vocatura said he’s pleased the legal proceedings against the bakery appear to have ended. “I’m happy the government is doing the right thing,” Vocatura said. “The past three years have been the longest in my life.”
Try the netherlands: our IRS uses guilty until YOU proof your innocence all the time (the only time they dont have to proof your guilt: YOU have to PROOF your innocence! In a court mind you!), AND: to even appear in court... (drumroll) you first have to pay your TAXES IN FULL. AND, if you fail to pay ANY taxes in time: they will.. (drumroll) put an extorting amount of FINE on that (doubling, tripling, quintipling the amount in oh, 6 months), until: you finally go to JAIL: 300 euro per day. It used to be that you would be debt free after jail: but guess what: Not Any More: now, you leave jail, AND STILL have to pay off that tax debt. Other fun fact: if you get into serious financial trouble, you can get into a 'pay-off-debt' helping scheme, where you pay off what, 5 years of your entire income (minus food) to the debt: then the rest of your debt is 'cleared', and you can start living again. BUT NOT with any tax-debts! They, after 5+ years of debt-scheme-paying off: will STILL want to go on: till the last eurocent has been secreted out of the victim. I mean slave. I mean civilian. I have never signed a contract with any 'taxman', yet they seem to think they can demand 60+ of my income at gunpoint, slowly creeping to 100 percent tax rate: AKA TOTAL SLAVERY.
@@baskoning9896 AND, by paying you admit that the amount you're charged is correct therefore appealing the decision is an automatic rejection of the appeal. Same with traffic fines. You have to pay before you can appeal but payment is an admission that the fine was correct and you're guilty as charged.
@@TheFrenchPug Exactly. We deposit less than $10K at a time because THAT"S ALL WE MAKE! Now, if the IRS was willing to GIVE US MORE MONEY, we'd be able to deposit more money! IMO the IRS was ignoring many of the "factors" in the law, which qualify whether or not there is actual "structuring" occurring - or the agents involved never passed math class! This was likely a deliberate shakedown of someone based on a perception of their name being associated with organized crime, being Italian or Sicilan.
@@TheFrenchPug There are qualifications for structuring to be considered as possible too, but it's likely that in their "haste" and carelessness the IRS ignored all the signs of a legal business and instead had another reason for persecuting this man. It would be interesting to REALLY investigate this situation, as there had to be more than small deposits that triggered this. What about businesses that DON'T make more than $10K per week?
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When someone in law enforcement says you "don't need" a lawyer... you *ABSOLUTELY* need a lawyer.
It's funny cause even back than, that was a violation of policy. Strange case. Definitely not the norm
Abolish the it's
Criminals in the gov. & the irs hella unconstitutional. JFK rip.
Yeah, alarms SHOULD go off in your head at that moment.
U don't need a lawyer. Lol
I found the update. He got his money back and the IRS stopped threatening to demand more money if he didn't shut up and accept their theft. Thanks to Institute for Justice.
Thank you!
someone please pin this update
@@RossMalagarie Agreed! Glad the bad guys got shut down. The IRS was literally stealing over 60k then trying to put an innocent man in prison.
I hope he sued for damages and suffering.
Great!!
IRS should be sued over this.
Imagine if you were driving 52 in a 55 mph zone, and got arrested for driving "too close to the limit"? Civil forfeiture is another word for armed robbery
Ha! Type that into TH-cam. Watch a man get a ticket (black dude) get a ticket for driving 1 mph under the limit for impeding traffic on a road with no cars.
@@XxXXxxXXxx78 yep look at all that imaginary racism in your head
That has happened actually. A black man was stopped before he was right under the speed limit.
@@joejacko1587 there is literally a video of a black man being pulled over because he was wasn't going the listed speed limit.
The officer said it was suspicious....
@@joejacko1587 lol. Loser
Civil Asset Forfeiture is one of the biggest banes to our society. It needs to be OUTLAWED ASAP.
When Civil Asset Forfeiture is outlawed, only outlaws will have Civil Asset Forfeiture. Come to think of it, that's how it works now.
@@pdlister Yep, only someone/an institution completely unethical could engage in 'Civil Asset Forfeiture' aka straight up theft
In Canada it went from ill gotten gains if convicted in a court of law seized to civil asset forfeiture laws similar to the US and Canadians have no idea unless it happens to you.
It is outlawed. It’s called the constitution. It’s mind boggling that the government gets away with stealing money from people who have not been found guilty of anything. It’s just outright theft.
Sometimes it’s a positive to be a little guy in the world.
If a law enforcement agent EVER tells you do not need a lawyer you do.
Phoenix Phyre says*
@@wesleyhempoli5548 git gud at england
@Phoenix Phyre --- IRS AGENTS are not law enforcement agents. They are protection racket organized criminal gangsters. The IRS is not an agency that is connected with the United States government and neither is the Federal Reserve Bank. The Federal Reserve Bank and the IRS are both privately held corporations that were incorporated in the traitor state of Delaware in the years 1913 and 1936 respectively. There is no law in United States Code Title 26 (the income tax code) that says that the individual U.S. citizen is legally obligated to pay the Federal or the State Franchise Income Tax. Income Tax is Voluntary. Income Tax is not Mandatory. :-I
Officer, its does not matter whether i need one or not. ..
Then remain silent........
@Leonard Chornomaz
If the person they're interviewing is the one they're accusing of being a perp then they MOST DEFINITELY need a warrant or to plainly state that they're the one under investigation as that they have a right to refuse!
“If you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about.” I laugh at people who claim that they have no fear of the government because they’ve done nothing wrong. The government can at any time conjure up a myriad of laws to indict any innocent person.
The only innocent people are those we haven't met up with yet.
They don't have to conjure up any laws, they already have so many laws that no matter which direction you step off on you are breaking a law. It's like walking on a beach while trying to avoid stepping on the sand.
Everyone has broken the law, if you look close enough.
Like no one who has done nothing wrong has ever been locked up somewhere in the history of the world.
That is true. If you're wealthy they can come after you financially. If you own land they can attack on environmental regulations basis. I had a friend who was practically in a legal war with the US government because of some dirt he moved around on his property (because he lived near a small stream). Somebody even broke into his HOUSE and stole his legal defense documents right before he had to go to court.
The outcome of his drawn out trial, tons of wasted money and even JAIL time was a VICTORY.
Rarely when the lawsuit says "John Doe vs. The United States of America" does John Doe win.
But he did.
As a update, they got their $$$ back and the IRS dismissed everything.
Labeld Thank goodness
Yeah they get it back only if it is on the news with publicity
They only did it because it became a media shitshow think of all they people that they Rob and get away with it.
Not before they floated it for 3 years...
How about the interest. Damage to name mental disturbance
The person at the IRS that initiated this should be fired.
Probably made a suggestion that turned out to net them millions of dollars. Thus, the person who invented "legal theft" likely gets 10% of money seized. Great for them and funding the IRS but not so good for the innocent persons caught in this governmental scam. The fact that it withstands judicial justice in court scares me.
They probably got a promotion.
@ThirtyYearstoolate Easiest and fastest way to get rid of dead wood.
Or… fined & incarcerated
He should be imprisoned.
The government stepped on the bill of rights when the government was allowed to seize property without due process.
Who "allowed" the government to seize property without due process? Why, the government, of course!
Actually they can take property without due process in certain circumstances and it's used against organized crime and drug dealers all of the time.
@@dorasmith7875, but the law wasn’t meant to be used against people never convicted of a crime. Courts have allowed this to happen and the legislature need to stop it and and put penalties on public servants that exceed their authority. If the action requested by the government is questionable, then a judge needs to get involved to check if our rights are being violated before they act. Something has to be changed where citizens are not being unfairly put on by government employees.
@@Milosz_Ostrow The People. They were told it was to get forfiet assets from drug dealers. They took away property from grandmothers just because their grandson took their car to get groceries and got pulled over for a joint.
Government should never have the right over private assets unless there is due process and a court orders it.
JUST LIKE PROBABLE CAUSE WHEN THERE IS NONE.
The IRS deserves 0% of this bakery's money.
"The IRS deserves 0% of anyone's money."
FTFY
Their bank doesn't deserve to handle their money either. No one bothered to warn them that what they were doing could potentially be construed as a crime.
Also, how exactly could you be evading taxes when the IRS has access to the bank records‽
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Abolish the IRS since it is a domestic extortion arm of the US Gangster government!
That's why people are going the old fashioned way. Put your money in a safe and hide it. That way if the IRS tries anything at least the person has the money stashed away.
@@DorkVader26 they are foreign agents. Illuminati
Never ever ever ever ever ever talk to any law enforcement officer without a lawyer.
Only four words in your vocabulary at that point. I want an Attorney
You can if you know how to handle the police and know their tactics. . . Which, I do!
@@jamedlock83 You trust. So DID I, so did most Everyone. That's How we wound up in this position.
@@jamedlock83 If your words are not "I want an Attorney" or "I refuse to answer any questions". Then you are an idiot.
@@JimDean002 You forgot I do Not Answer Questions.
"You don't need a lawyer" is a key phrase for "GET A LAWYER, NOW!"
In their particular case, the law enforcement didn't even allow them to call anyone.
And shut your mouth immediately.
In addition to the case being dismissed, the ultimate good news here is that the law was changed in 2019 to basically say that the IRS may no longer seize money on the mere suspicion of structuring. Instead, they now have to prove that either (1) the property was derived from an illegal source, or (2) the funds were structured for the purpose of concealing a violation of the law or regulations other than the structuring law in and of itself.
Great news
The sad part? Laws don’t get amended until innocent people suffer. What a broken system
@Everythings Eventual dumb because you say it is? Hilarious lol. Well I hope the law painfully fucks you over then since you’re so supportive that there has to be innocent victims who go through unneeded stressful turmoil. The laws validity was never disputed here either, just the poor execution of the system at enforcing it properly. Try reading and comprehending next time with your trigger happy keyboard fingers. If you found my statement to be “tough” then you’ve never had real problems in your life lmao. You are thick in the head bub 🤣 let’s not make up shit arguements just because you want to feel “tough” 🤣 I want to be a part of a conversation because I have empathy for innocent victims? Pure Comedy lmao go kiss the ass of corrupt law enforcement then
Good point, assuming they follow the law. But with 87,000 new IRS agents being unleashed upon America by the Biden Administration now in Aug, 2022, the question becomes what other laws will they violate as they "audit" (i.e., strong arm) Americans taxpayers for every little penny?
Please cite your sources.
The minute they would've told me I don't need a lawyer I would've gone completely silent.
Randall Cox even better, limp
…so basically it was a shakedown.
How did they get their money back? I thought once the federal government seized your assets it didn't matter if you were guilty or not, you don't get it back.
I also don't understand this structuring thing. It could be suspicious if you consistently had more than $10,000 to deposit and consistently deposited in smaller amounts, but I don't see how it should be a CRIME, just a practice that should call attention to what you might be trying to conceal.
But a small business that does nightly deposits is not likely to have $10,000 to deposit, that's ridiculous.
It's just a damn shame. They got they're nose too far up in our lives. They wanna controll every aspect of our lives.
Exactly.
@Ignatius Q. Snerd, II, Esq. another example of government using the argument of protecting citizens, to hide the truth that government is stealing from citizens.
I would put money on the man donated to the Republican party. IRS used to shakedown!!!
The IRS won't go after the rich who evade but comes after the hard working Americans
Amen!!!
They as most govt agencies go after what's easy and clean, not what's hard and messy.
Where do you think that the 87000 new IRS agents will focus? Ain't gonna be on the people or corporations with the accountants and lawyers, I can tell you that much!
@@andyhuebschmann5616 - Hopefully on crooks like Trump
I think they see it as an easy win. Billionaires will fight them in court even if they're guilty. They are counting on middle class Americans not having the money to defend themselves in court.
This is insane! You have to prove that you’re innocent, but they don’t have to prove you’ve committed a crime before stealing your money?
They take civil action against the property. Property does not have rights, and a civil case is preponderance, not beyond a reasonable doubt.
The legal documents would have state v $50,000 instead of state v maki like a case against you. It may be your money, the case is not against you. They may charge you in some other case that has to do with the money though.
@@itsmemailingyou4234 that is something that is and always has been insane, though. Legal action is to be brought against people, not items. Items can't have wrongdoing or mens rea, how can they be culpable? Also, the government pressing any kind of civil case is nonsense as well, all govt cases should be criminal in nature or not exist. Either you broke the law or you didn't.
Not only do they not have to prove it, they don't even have to specify a crime they might suspect you of committing.
Try living outside of the USA, the US government treats you as a criminal from every angle.
@@itsmemailingyou4234 To say "property does not have rights, therefore I can take it from you" is the most idiotic justification for stealing that I have ever heard.
It's called extortion. Hire a lawyer and don't say anything to them.
I wonder if other businesses are getting the same treatment.
That's exactly what he did.
@@JamesRichardWiley gee ya think? how do you think they found his business practices.
@@PeppercornVR No, he did talk without a lawyer. That's the biggest mistake.
@@DieselRamcharger Likely his bank reported him for suspicious activity. Banks are required to report deposits and withdrawals larger than $10K. But, many will report repeated transactions of lesser amounts, say $5K, if they think a person or business is trying to evade the $10K limit. That is structuring.
When people ask, "where is all this tyranny?" Show them this video.
Just saved this vid to my watch later list just so I have it ready when a Bootlicker starts running that ducksucker..
@@shawnmartin8485 Yeah the last administration was pretty bad
Michelle Green Yeah, my mother voted for the dude, TWICE and back in 2008 when I was 13 I asked her “the fuck are you thinking?” Obviously without the colorful language but I sure as hell was thinking it
@Michelle Green Yes and Trump and his henchmen are boy scouts that help old ladies cross the street.
My reply to them is "Beyond your willful ignorance and your pay grade."
Of all the dishonest businesses out there, they go after a bakery. Typical scoundrels.
A family owned, independent operation. That's the problem. "They" want major corporation chains only!
They are easier to intimidate.
@@eogg25
No armed guards, and no lawyers.
Mind-boggling isn’t it😂
Makes me ill. They can't get money out of real criminals so they after hard working people. Sad.
This is True. I knew a Semi homeless girl caught .. Driving Drunk, evading the police, No insurance, no registration. NO PROBLEM. No money! Probably spent 5 days in jail.
@ochaleklaw Agreed. Some states are reasonable, others look more like a Nazi stronghold, which wants to take our rights and freedoms. The Left are fearful of the citizens, and probably rightfully so.
They know that I made a dollars in my 1993 dishwasher job. Epstein's billions, not a clue...
They ARE the criminals. The U.S. caters to the rich. Hard working people are the ones suffering. Always. They will make us pay for every little bump in the road while the rich get tax deductions and incentives. That's why we are i. The predicament we are in right now. We've been hit with stay at home orders and our jobs have been shut down while the rich are getting richer off us shopping at big businesses where they have their money invested. Small businesses are nothing but a nuisance to the government.
the government is the real criminal
"Armed IRS agents." There's one of the problems right there.
@Full Blooded Irish Guy Since February 3, 1913, when the United States became a socialist country.
He miss spoke when he said armed iOS agents because the IRS does not carry guns they would have been United States treasury agents.
I have worked with them in the past.
@@dirtybomb32 Not according to everyone else: IRS Criminal Investigation Division - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_Criminal_Investigation_Division
You need to go back to the past 5 years of weapons (M16s) and ammunition sales by federal Agencies. The parks service is pretty well armed. Don't dump tras in a National Park or you migt get wasted.
What do you expect? The IRS realizes what they're doing is fucking scummy so they issue firearms to their agents so that they can protect themselves when someone inevitably decides "y'know what? fuck you" and starts attacking them.
That's outrageous. This is exactly the kind of government we don't want or need.
But have and have had for a long time, America the land of the not so free
Late Stage Corruptionism!
No country on earth is righteous ... Not until Jesus comes in power yelling at the top of his voice
Vote accordingly.
Vote all the WOKE supporters out of office
"No man's life, liberty or property are safe while the Legislature is in session." - Mark Twain
IRS, in fact our whole government, is out of control.
Damn Skippity
Getting your money back isn't enough. A 'misunderstanding' is one thing. What the IRS did, an arguably existential criminal organization itself, is a crime. Punitive damages.
And those punitive damages need to be paid by the supervising agent and the director of the field office that pursued it, along with the lawyers that facilitated it.
They can jump on this but can't do anything about the scammers...
Exactly!
Glad you said it, Madeline ! THAT is something that pisses me off about law enforcement. They can be on the spot to write me a ticket for parking more than 10 inches from the curb, but I get scammer calls every day and scammer mail frequently as well trying to cheat me out of thousands and law enforcement at every level says "can't do much about it, there is a do not call list" and the "do not call list" is worthless as hell. Also if a bank or insurance company screws a customer out of some huge amount of money, it is ALWAYS a "civil matter, to be discussed in civil court", but if some kid steals a $25. pair of cheap tennis shoes from WalMart, he goes to jail.
I rarely get scammer calls on my personal phone now.
I was traveling a lot and would use that time to keep them on the line as long as possible. I would get them screaming and cussing angry at me. I thought it was very funny.
They rarely call me anymore.
The company phone they call in Spanish. I wish I was fluent.
All corporations in america are offshoots of the mother corporation "THE UNITED STATES" and the govt is the ones who sold the scammers your info..
Because the majority are not doing anything about the fraudulent occult run irs
Charging someone with "structuring" as a primary offense without first charging them with a crime that is commonly accompanied with structuring such as larceny (monetary) is like charging someone with failure to ID when there is no crime associated to justify a lawful demand by an LEO to ID in the first place.
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"Structuring": A means by which the government can seize your money, no matter how much you have, without having committed an actual crime of any kind.
@@sheldrickotieno7541 I think the IRS is probably much closer to Satan.
@@sheldrickotieno7541 Jesus ISNT a swear word but your maker and the only one who can really help you!!
And then locks you up for it
Criminals take from your register
IRS takes your whole damn livelihood
What are you talkin about, the IRS is just a bunch of criminals.
And you better pay up or they will take everything away.
@@Gripmagic haha, they make cold-hearted criminals look like 2yr olds at a daycare center.
Biggest criminals in this country
not if hes getting stabbed in the heart 55 times with an ice pick lmfao
They were from the "criminal" division of the IRS. How ironic.
Ain't it tho.lol
Wow....
They ment they were the criminals from the IRS.
It’s called honest labeling. They call themselves what they are.
Virtually every agency, bureau, and branch of the Federal government has armed, sworn law enforcement people. ' Keeping up with the Jones '
This is the one of the worst abuse of the government on citizens rights. Intimidation , extortion
The only thing you're required to do is identify yourself. The only other word you say is LAWYER.
Lawyers are in on it too.
@@rollingthunder4599 so are the Court's.
That gold Fringe around the flag means maritime law
That's why the courtrooms are made of wood to emulate a ship.
When a lawyer passes the bar he's welcome on the ship.
No... You aren't required identify yourself..
Identify yourself? Dafuq hell no. I'm a minor I need a lawyer. I don't care if you're toothless with a head of white hair. I'm a minor. I need my lawyer.
I once did an entire 5 minute interview with various inflections and stylizations of _"I WANT MY LAWYER!"_ They labeled me _uncooperative_ and I never got my lawyer.
Never talk to law enforcement without an attorney.
Never talk to IRS agent without an attorney.
Just be clear you are not refusing to talk to them, make sure you state you will talk with legal council present. Then they cannot hold it over your head.
Never talk to law enforcement. Let your attorney talk.
Always wear a helmet when you ride your bike
@@pbufh You voted for Biden, didn't you?
imagine all the people they are doing this to that you don't ever hear from..
Let's just burn that it's building down. Then maybe they will learn there lesson not to fuck with are people.
@@bluemopdisaster6445 You wonder what the reason was McVeigh bombed a federal building, then you hear stories like this. I see why he turned against the government
warpnin3 Happened to me. The IRS sent me a notice a few months ago saying I fudged my taxes and took out a bunch of money I made, which I never made. They wanted $7,000. I sent them my W2 forms along with the notice to show I wasn’t even close to their estimate of how much money I made. Have not heard back from them. If they do, I will have a lawyer. I have three of them in my family.
taoist40 they just tried something to see if it would stick. What a bunch of losers...
The IRS is nothing but a hiding place from the criminal FEDERAL RESERVE. For every dollar they print from NOTHING, we owe them two dollars back. Our taxes go to perpetual debt. The federal reserve are the real criminals, it is not of the people, but of the elites.
Those IRS agents involved should have to pay a 10x penalty of the amount seized out of their own pockets.
The minute they told you “You don’t need one, ...” they committed a crime.
They can lie all day long to you and it is completely legal. But if you lie to them it is a Felony. ALWAYS demand a lawyer and plead 5th.......
@@georgepoitras3502 no that’s not a “lie”. He has legal rights to ask for a lawyer, they denied him one. This is the crime.
@@TheSiriusEnigma Was he arrested? Or was he raided and then after just notified his money was taken? If he was not taken into custody I am right. If he was then your point is valid.
@@TheSiriusEnigma He didn't ask for a lawyer. He said "Maybe I need a lawyer" but never demanded one. The minute they told him that he didn't need a lawyer, he should have demanded one anyway and refused to speak until the lawyer got there...
I understand where you all are coming from but whether or not he spoke to them, they took his money! That is the ultimate problem here!
“You don’t need a lawyer while we proceed to investigate, question, and steal from you”
Yeah, I’d call my lawyer and start filming right then and there.
I agree with you. But....people that do call their lawyers and start filming usually end up in mysterious accidents or deaths. It's crazy. And scary.
Nicholas Terry yea! Ypu would but IRS has ALL your money! Lol!
Michael Cuff I’m pretty sure they don’t have all my money...
They steal way too much of it, I’ll grant you, but I still take home more than enough...
You'd cal your lawyer.... for a quote you altered for a joke?
These prosecutors need to be disbarred and be put in jail.
They should be de-nutted
Who did it Muller..?
Take them into custody for felony theft and extortion
"Just obey the law and you have nothing to fear"
...except for having your livelihood stolen based on some obscure statute that wasn't intended to be applied in this manner to begin with.
Ian Battles which when regiemes go bad like this is quite often
speter awaken yes. Unless that occurs America will not only never be great again it wonk ever even be good
of course it was, you just didn't get it, still believing your quote at that time! don't you all know "they hate us for our freedoms" like George w. confessed?
Lol the hell it wasn't. They have been structured to be used against us.
@Leonard Chornomaz
What I think is strange.
If the reporting amount is $10,000. , then how was the IRS involved? I thought they only KNEW or we're required to know of deposits of $10,000 or more.
It tells me the IRS is watching ALL deposits.
Also, 99.9999% of people in the USA routinely deposit less than $10,000. So that means we are all being watched.
"We're going to seize all of your money because you've demonstrated a pattern of DOING NOTHING AGAINST THE LAW"
The IRS needs to be kicked in the nuts for what they did
I second
IRS needs to be AUDITED!!! And DISARMED!!!
Title 31 USC Section 321(d)(2)…….read it, and be angry!
Needs to be dismantled and done away with.
Just imagine that their are people in the IRS making six figure salaries plus bonuses to make a criminal out of honest hard working people like this man. Even though they can target groups of people for their political beliefs and lie to congress and plead the 5th and retire with full benefits and call us criminals.
Coppydoublelopp Kliem Far worse than communist Russia
HA! 6 figures my arse. Its going take '6 figures' in attorney fees for the poor baker to recover his money. If you 'think' the already bankrupt government gives a rip abut innocent people when there is 'revenue' to steal ...... .
Go look at the government salary ranges, most IRS agents probably make less money than you do.
@@RileyFreeman8 lol ya because their per diem, healthcare, comrats, travel, and clothing allowances are chump change hu? Not even mentioning if they have children
The government should fear the people, not vice versa.
Yes they should. But see, a lot of people weren't paying attention and freely gave over those rights and generally speaking once you waive a right you don't get it back. (For example this guy freely gave up his right to counsel and was detained and interrogated for a couple hours, most likely because he didn't want to appear guilty. Never EVER trust anybody who says you don't need an attorney or it'll be easier if we talk inside)
And so now it's going to take a massive overhaul in order to put the government back in its place. My beagle used to catch a scent and would bolt (luckily to the same bush most of the time lol) and trying to pull a pure hunting dog away from whatever, without any trained hunting commands was next to impossible. So in order to pull the government back, we the people have to train the hunting dog to drop a scent. (It's 3am and I can't sleep so this all makes sense to me at the moment. Just ignore if it's a bunch of gibberish lol)
The government controls the military, navy, air force and law enforcement.
That is why they do not fear the people. The 1% controls the 99% because the 1% has "The Bomb" ... literally.
@TheRaellz
Why have there been no arrests ? The constitution is only valid if people defend it and all I see is a big orange goon who calls himself a president offending and violating the constitution 6 ways to Sunday and nobody does a thing about it. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the reality of the situation spits in the face of your defense. WAKE UP ! Trump orders missile strikes, every president in US history has had a war of one sort or another and that is political power directing and approving military action. Once again sir ... WAKE UP !
The IRS isnt a part of our government, look it up and hold on to your hat.
@@Wildstar40 , trump still not showing his tax records, what's he hiding.
Abolish the 1913 Federal Reserve and the IRS connections
Audit the IRS, Audit the Fed. Indict those found guilty and abolish the Federal Reserve. Return the currency to the people.
@@manatutormtg Nevertheless they should be audited and their corruption indicted.
they aren't legal anyway.
Central banking through the west created more problems than solutions of controlling money flow and patterns of economy ups and downs! It's a DISMAL FAILURE for the common folk!
Federal Reserve: 5th Plank of the Communist Manifesto. IRS: 2nd Plank of the Communist Manifesto.
Thank heavens for the Institute for Justice. Your work has been so inspirational to me that I almost want to go to law school to work for you after my first career ends in 4 years.
The government is out of control.
Its TIME....
IRS is not part of the United States Government. It just rents space in Federal Buildings to give you the illusion it is. Check the IRS charter passed by Congress. It's a Private Charter...
The IRS originated with the Commissioner of Internal Revenue, a federal office created in 1862 to assess the nation's first income tax, which was to raise funds for the American Civil War. The temporary measure provided over a fifth of the Union's war expenses and was allowed to expire a decade later. In 1913, the Sixteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified authorizing Congress to impose a tax on income, and the Bureau of Internal Revenue was established. In 1953, the agency was renamed the Internal Revenue Service and significantly reorganized. The Internal Revenue Code of 1954 was renamed the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 by section 2 of the Tax Reform Act of 1986.
No its not out of control...people just don't read anything.
M. You’re are truly blind
What governments
When any government agency tells you you don't need a lawyer, that's when you absolutely do need a lawyer.
IRS: You are guilty, especially if you are innocent.
Whenever a cop says "you don't need a lawyer" ... you NEED a lawyer.
Those were not cops.
@Tread Knought Are you high? You cannot be a patriotic American while enforcing illegal, usurious, and treasonous laws against your fellow citizens. "Patriotic LEO" is an oxymoron.
you need to know the law, go to Peoples Patriot Network . com (11am Eastern daily) & Behind The Woodshed w/ Hal Anthony
Any time any "law enforcement officer" says you don't need a lawyer, call TWO lawyers.
I'm soooooo glad that the IRS is having a budget shortfall and has lost a ton of agents due to layoffs and attrition. To hell with them!
Biden wants to double the agents by 2030
Without IRS agents, who is going to put Trump in prison?
@@andytran9370 hey Andy..I don't think trump is the problem. That just propaganda. Trump is a larper. He just pretending
“You don’t need a lawyer” = call your lawyer.
ABSOLUTELY. No law enforcement or any Government agency is your friend. NONE!
_Idiot_ Savant yes for sure !!!!!
@@ironhorse127 I am from the government and I am here to help (myself to everything you own) They just forgot the last part of the sentence
Ten years ago I divorced a very controlling and abusive man. Two years later, I went to my bank as normally I did to make a deposit. It was at that time that I learned ALL of my money from checking and savings had been taken by the IRS. I was devastated.
I immediately called the IRS...at first I spoke calmly. I learned that my ex owed the IRS a large sum of taxes. Apparently, he hadn’t paid taxes for years and they finally caught up to him and being the lying, conniving manipulator that he is, he told them what state i resides in and to go after me for the money.
I became enraged. In the first place I had never signed my name on anything with him, including tax forms. I didn’t mean to cry, but I did. I told the gentleman about how my ex was a user and how I was never allowed to have my own money... money that I had earned. I told him I had never signed tax returns with him and had not seen him in 3 years, yet I was still paying his way. Furthermore, I had two children that I received no support for and that I had always worked and paid my taxes and it was not right for the IRS to take my money to pay his taxes, because he defied the government. I truly was sobbing. I was so sick of that leech and just couldn’t take anymore. The IRS was truly a gentleman and said he would get back with me. The next day at 1pm my banker called to tell me that all of my money had been returned to my accounts.
I could hardly believe that the IRS had done that. I really think it had to do with the gentleman that I spoke with. He saw that I had never co signed with my ex and that we had been divorced for 2 going on 3 years. I was so grateful that I just got the right agent... who had a heart.
You are one of the lucky few. Most are heartless and could care less what they do to the citizens of this once great country.
What does that mean "he had a heart" ? You can't be alive without one ?
@@NoMoreInfo4You couldn't care less
@@larrybrinley8222 ancient belief is the soul lives in the heart. Without a heart you can't have a soul. No soul=no morality
So 8 years prior to this posting , you claim the IRS took all the money you had in the bank due to your ex husbands shenanigans . You call the IRS to find out what happened , you complain , explain and cry . Then 24 hours later your bank calls and says the IRS had returned all your money back to your account ? Absolute bulls***.
Not a chance in hell this happened .
Somebody from the IRS needs to be in prison.
Update:
In May 2016, David and Larry teamed up with the Institute for Justice to demand that the government return all of the $68,382.22 seized from the bakery and end its profit-motivated fishing expedition into the bakery’s finances, as well as the government’s abuse of prosecutorial authority to pressure property owners to agree to forfeiture. Law enforcement should not be using the threat of jail time to fund its budgets.
Hours after IJ filed its motion demanding the return of the bakery’s money, the IRS capitulated and agreed to return the money in full. The IRS initially stated that it was going forward with its retaliatory grand jury investigation, but just weeks later the IRS announced that it was withdrawing its subpoena as well.
The INFERNAL RIPOFF SERVICE should have returned the money with interest!
They need to be arrested, charged, and executed.
what about the prosecutor?
Mafia acts the way they do, because The People allow it.
Simple.
cept i trust the mafia a lot more than i trust the us gubment
The American people should stop paying federal income taxes completely. We get nothing for our tax dollars. The IRS picks on the little people who can’t afford lawyers to help them fight. Meanwhile, Amazon pays nothing.
@@syourke3 the income tax system is made to control everybody not bring in money
@@syourke3 idiot
@@theworldoverheavan560 slave
This is what happens when government gets too big, too powerful, and has no oversight.
Is it government or is it out of control agencies within government over stepping their powers.
The IRS and the Federal reserve both need to be dismantled and forever done away with, and the same goes for the CIA. They're all corrupt and worthless entities.and while they're at it there are some in these institutions who need to be executed for their crimes, as well as others that need to be sentenced to 60 plus years so as to assure the semblance of a life sentence. But of course if a Democrat work to get in office there would be NONE of these things EVER happen.
@@cunninglinguist9853 I will agree with the irs, and federal reserve. Would add fda (with our food), OSHA, and the Dept of education.
@@scottpatrick8352 I agree Scott. I tried to like your comment but this sorry lowlife entity called TH-cam has fixed it to where I cannot like a lot of comments. It will allow me to dislike or to reply. TH-cam is such a lowlife entity.I'll be so glad when President Trump takes them out like he's going to do with the fake news media.
@@cunninglinguist9853 How is Trump gonna take out YT?
Never talk to law enforcement with out a lawyer
I’ve been depositing about 18k once a month on the 21st. During the winter my business was slow and I only deposited around 8k once a month for about 3 months. The irs came to my door saying I was structuring and took over 100k from my bank account. Case got dismissed and I counter sued for damages and loss of work and credibility to my business which I won and cannot speak about the settlement.
I hope you stuck it in and broke it off.
I would have put heavy claims against their surety bond! Charged them with acts of terrorism and treason! Three claims on their Bond, and they can NEVER EVER hold any public office or government job ever again in any of the 50 states! We need to be doing this more often! We are the law not them!
Dear Smooth: Very glad to hear your story. Sorry for your inconvenience, and glad you won. This world needs more like you.
@@ladeda7033 I like where you're going with this. But confess that I know nothing about it. Can you recommend a book on the matter?
@@cautious1343 I have no books, but there are several law teachers that have posted lectures and are very clear and straight forward. Easy to fallow, using common language and not legalese. Constitutional law is the key! I will update this soon as I hunt down some sites to maybe start you off with.
When someone in a law enforcement capacity says you don't need a lawyer, you need a lawyer.
No. You need John Moses Browning.
My wife and I were accused of not paying taxes in the state we lived. When I was stationed there in the military. We only had to pay for our state/home of record which we did. We sent the correct paperwork work multiple times to the irs and they said they never received it even though they had to sign for it. We got a lawyer which we couldn’t afford and he sent the paperwork as well. Still they said it was never received. At this point they took what they said we owed plus fees and fines due to late payment. We decided to give up trying to fight it because of the cost was too high for us. The gov is unfortunately crooked there is nothing a lot of us can do. I’m glad it worked out for these brothers.
I feel your pain, I'm on that same boat. And interest this for late this And that just ridiculous sadly many Americans quietly suffer at the mercy of these leeches.
In my state there is a legal aid group. This group of lawyers can take a case for a fee based on income. No one should be steam rolled like you were because of financial difficulty. For others in need and facing these accusations of crimes - please look into your own state's legal aid societies.
Sorry about your situation but you or your lawyer could have hand carried the paperwork to the nearest IRS Office and have an Agent sign for it. That's what I did. One time I made an appointment and settled it right there with the Agent with all the required paperwork with a confirmation letter the matter was settled. It's time consuming but they had no excuses of not recieving paperwork.
The feds are lying traitors. Wake up. Treat them as you would any other domestic terrorist. That's exactly what they are.
The government intentionally make it very difficult to fight back when it comes to financial seizure
We need to eliminate the IRS period. Flat tax based on what you made each year. No games, no cheating, no IRS
That's what I say, too. Flat tax. Everyone pays the same percentage of their income. No deductions, no cap on earnings.
The government is owned by billionaires just in case you hadn’t checked on that they will always pay next to nothing and get richer while you get poorer
I like it the same percentage no matter the income level
Or a national sales tax. Rich people who buy more stuff, will end up paying a lot more tax.
Steve Forbes ran for president on a flat tax platform and lost. We all lost.
When we had a new medical practice, after about a year, the IRS came after us for not sending in Payroll taxes that we withheld from employee checks. We had the cancelled checks showing the IRS received and deposited the money. they denied ever receiving it. they were threatening to seize our accounts, houses, etc ( of course we had no money at that time, only a line of credit from the bank). when we talked to an agent on the phone, we were told not to worry if we had the cancelled checks. My partner didn't believe him and called and got another agent who completely negated what the first one said, and said we should be worried. eventually, it all got sorted out after many calls and hours on hold. But you will get different answers from the agency, lawyer is prob best.
Ron Paul says "End the Fed". I say, get rid of the IRS, too.
They're a package deal. The IRS is the enforcement arm of the FED.
just charge everyone flat 10 PER CENT TAX END OF STORY.
@@rayt5520 taxation is theft
@@rayt5520 the government should be pay per use like they used to before taxes existed. Like, pay a charge for taking the highway, you don't like it, take the back roads.
SaulOhio when the fed is gone no need for their collection agency. It s sell just funding their neo agenda. If you don t want dead in two years take a stand now. Their population estimates are we will be at 125 million in 2025. That s half. Are connected to be included in the living. Belief is immigration is to bring in populations with plagues like Ebola that will bring massive deaths
I wish you could sue the IRS for punitive damages.
You can.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...... OH.... your serious.
U can
Corruption prevents it. But, you can personally inflict some punitive damage on these traitors. That is the one and only reason we have a 2nd Amendment.
The IRS must be abolished.
Yet when I'm owed 1200 dollars they cant afford to pay someone to answer the damn phone
Why do they owe you $1200
@@matthewtoddsr.6743 Most people arrange their tax withholdings to get a small refund every year. In 2020 they were backlogged processing refunds.
@@matthewtoddsr.6743 stimulus
@@joshuahudson2170 no it was stimulus most likely.
They've got more than enough people to answer the phone. They just don't want to and there's nothing we can do to stop them. Typical givernment out of control. When everyone is losing their business, home, their job, they know they'll get paid even when they sit at home.
Jesus Lord. This is criminal. Our country is circling the drain, government going to hell in a hand basket.
It went to hell in 1933. It started in 1871. This isn't our government anymore.
It has been. TRUMP 2020
Since 1933 believe that!! Then trade?! Everyone should have stayed on their turf when the going got good, yes or no?
The U.S was lost to foreign private bankers in 1913, when the federal reserve act was signed. This is when the IRS started, and foreign private bankers assumed the sole right to issue U.S currency.
@@loribabich4839 Trump is a schill for PNAC just like Obama was. They are allowed to squabble while the US invades petro dollar countries.
Your local bank handling your business cash probably turned you in. I hope you changed banks.
That is exactly what happened
Banks, casinos, and many other places are required to fill out forms any time you do transactions with cash, especially if over $10,000. So the bank didn't have a choice. Any bank they changed to would have done the exact same thing.
@@Jaradis So you are not supposed to care that they smiled, said have a nice day, as they jabbed a knife in your back. No, I would be done with that bank. I would tell them exactly what I thought those scum bag low life's. I would let them know that it would unhealthy if ever saw me again, any of them. Damn them all.
@@xerxes8632 It's Federal Law, every single bank is required to do it, as are numerous businesses that deal with potentially large cash transactions (casinos, car dealerships, etc). But sure, go ahead and tell them off Mr Tough Guy.
@@xerxes8632 its a federal law every cash handling agency has to follow. Example say your looking to purchase a boat you pull $5k from your checking account when the bank opens that starts whats called a money tranaction log. The deal falls through you take the 5k back to the bank and deposit it the mtl now shows 10k in cash tranactions and triggers currency transaction report that goes to the federal government. This is to prevent using the banks to launder money. Consistently deposting cash under 10k becomes suspicious according to the government. For more info look up title 31
Thank God for media platforms and organizations such as Institute for Justice to advocate his case and expose those thieving frauds in IRS.
Don't ever say "maybe I need a lawyer" always say "I need a lawyer"
Extortion !!!!!!
It's like they want businesses to just do electronic transactions. Money is supposed to be legal tender for any debt public or private.
Okay, I read the article where they got their money back, but the government should owe them for trouble, and legal expenses.
Omnipotent Dwarf No money in existence
The IRS is not a government agency. They are a privately held corporation that is acting as the collection agent for another privately held corporation known as the Federal Reserve Bank. IRS agents are nothing more than protection racket organized criminal gangsters. The Federal and State Franchise board Income Tax are Illegal and Unconstitutional. It is all based on fraud. :-I
@@deano.7533
Oh shut up you fucking ignorant jackass.
But technically you're half right.
The IRS isn't actually an agency of the United States federal government. It's also not an agency at all. What it is, is a Bureau of the department of the treasury. Or in other words, it's part of the department of the treasury. And the department of the treasury *IS* an agency of the United States federal government.
Dumbass.
Yep, they are teying hard to attain a Cashless Society. The ability to track every penny spent, and earned. Fascist mother fukers
They owe interest on the money seized
They go after small business because they don't have the man power to go after big corporations and small businesses can't stay around long enough to fight them.
Happened to Me 4 years ago
Ger Oriada of u
Ger Oriada of u
0:38 I love how he gets happy talking about his business then immediately changes because he remembers what happens to it
When I was young and naive I used to say: Why would I need a lawyer to protect me against the government that's supposed to protect me? Yeah right!
because the government doesn't protect you, they only rule the country for their own benefit.
"A government big enough to give you anything you want is big enough to take everything you have." - Gerald R. Ford
Gerald R Ford Jr
@@Jzxql - Jerald R. BFD
It wasn't Ford who said this quote. Thomas Jefferson was the person who said this. And Benjamin Franklin said a person who exspects the government to completely provide them w all their basic needs and safety deserves neither.
Joe W Indiana - Nope, it was Ford. And Franklin said those who would give up liberty for a little security deserve neither.
Not the point that law was for drugs dealers and big crime businesses...
That law need to go, I hope you guys win and get that law change... I would try to get your Congress people involved.
Good luck
When they told you didn't need a lawyer they violated your civil rights. Government out of control.
First you dont have civil rights, you have unalienable rights as an individual. Civil means EVERYBODY. Everyone has the same rights as one person. And second, the government lies all the time and that isnt a crime, unfortunately. If it was a crime punishable by death to lie to the american people, none of this shit would ever happen.
A good chance that's what they lost for denying rights!
Well, technically they didn’t violate any rights there. They can’t deny you a lawyer, but they also don’t have a responsibility to advise you get one.
Den Long
But the irs and the Fed are not govt
They r private entities not beholden to the US people nor the constitution
They eventually won their case, *but no one from the government was ever punished for wasting everybody's time with this bogus case.*
The IRS was never passed by Congress and can’t come up with a appropriation a law that says you have to pay income taxes.
You are right, but try taking that to court. There isn't a single federal judge that will back you because they all are owned by the federal government.
Justin Ferguson they intimidate people to hang themselves. I know the tax code me and many others do and know how to not be liable. Correct the record. Wages defined in the code is federal pay. Go to peter Hendrickson videos and see testimonies
I think the IRS was born from the days of prohibition. When alcohol was illegal. They should have been abolished at the same time prohibition was.
Hair Razor Detox wrong the IRS was put in two years after the federal reserve was signed in .
Constitution says you dont have to. Only if you want to. Or am i in a mandella effect?
Your rights don’t just get activated when you’re arrested. You ALWAYS have the right to remain silent and to have an attorney present during questioning.
Know your rights!
Always get a lawyer with the IRS and a financial attorney.
These sums of money may seem small to the rich,but to the normal folk it's a lifetime of work.
we Must Demand the IRS Be Investigated and Audited!!!
ABOLISHED!
They are in Biden’s pocket leaked former presidents tax files illegally! What you think they do to us???
@@rp7326 replaced by a VAT like in Europe or a national sales tax would be ideal.
@@raylopez99 …. Agreed
Remember Lois Lerner!
When the IRS (or anybody else) tells you you don't need a lawyer, you need a lawyer.
If you're wondering- They got all of their money back and did not go to jail.
TY. I bet that they did not get any interest on their money while it was in the possession of the infernal revenue.
Plus, the Bakery had to pay for their lawyers to defend their business and themselves.
@@Urbicide There was probably a $30,000 handling charge.
@william III VERY GOOD POINT!
Then God for them getting their money back, But it's truly sad they had to go through that experience, And who pays them for their lawyer fees or just their time and stress and all the hassle
NEVER believe the “you don’t need a lawyer BS!”
It's called "The War Against Cash". I would sue the IRS for every dollar seized plus interest.
I've never even heard of structuring! The most infuriating thing is how millionaires and billionaires screw the system and pay nothing but never get investigated but a hard working, middle class business man gets this kind of abuse.
Oh don't fall for the socialist lie. They go after and tax the hell outta the rich too. That's why they need to use so many loopholes and offshore accounts. Governments bleeds everyone except themselves.
@@cknorris3644 You seem willing to believe lies, but only the ones that the super rich have told you.
Rich people hand out jobs remember that the more you tax the less jobs they have to hand out
What lie? If you don't think rich people and corporations pay taxes you're nuts. Not to mention the millions of people they employ which then leads to more taxes. So the rich guy who feeds 1000's of families and pumps millions into the economy every year shouldn't get a tax cut. But you deserve one?
Structuring is very well known by bankers... it's a part of money laundering
Business only makes $8000 profit a month and deposits $8000 every month.
IRS: Yeah theres a consistent deposit amount of 8 Grand a month and that's illegal, so we'll just stea... I mean fine you.
When someone says you do not need a lawyer, get one ASAP. Why do IRS agents need guns anyway?
June 9, 2016-
"The Internal Revenue Service appears to have quietly ended years of attempts to prosecute Vocatura’s Bakery over large cash bank deposits the business made.
Lawyers representing Vocatura’s said Thursday the IRS has agreed to withdraw a grand jury subpoena it issued to the longtime family bakery at 695 Boswell Ave., two weeks after it agreed to return $68,000 in cash it seized in a raid at the bakery three years ago.
“This is a prime illustration of the way civil forfeiture distorts law enforcement priorities,” attorney Robert Johnson, who is representing Vocatura’s Bakery, said in a statement. “The IRS seized the Vocaturas’ money for no real reason and spent three years trying to find a way to keep it. Now, after putting the Vocaturas through the wringer, the IRS is walking away from a case it never should have started in the first place.”
Through his attorney, owner David Vocatura said he’s pleased the legal proceedings against the bakery appear to have ended.
“I’m happy the government is doing the right thing,” Vocatura said. “The past three years have been the longest in my life.”
Beachnative42 They should’ve paid that money back with interest. I hope they paid for the business is legal fees as well.
Now you should sue them for their illegal actions.
So of the 68 thousand how much does the attorney.get
@@georgezink6338 NONE,
Yup sue the government Its one thing to be right..Its another to be Right and screwed for the time it was there prove it
If the "Law Enforcement" were not able to go home safely at the end of their shift, this shit would stop REAL fast!!!
Irs ≠ police
Based
You talked to cops.
What do you think this is, "The land of the free"?
NEVER talk to cops!
The IRS really needs to be disbanded.
Convicted w/o a charge....just stealing.
Guilty until you prove your innocence and the government never makes mistakes. Just the way our police system operates.
Try the netherlands: our IRS uses guilty until YOU proof your innocence all the time (the only time they dont have to proof your guilt: YOU have to PROOF your innocence! In a court mind you!), AND: to even appear in court... (drumroll) you first have to pay your TAXES IN FULL. AND, if you fail to pay ANY taxes in time: they will.. (drumroll) put an extorting amount of FINE on that (doubling, tripling, quintipling the amount in oh, 6 months), until: you finally go to JAIL: 300 euro per day. It used to be that you would be debt free after jail: but guess what: Not Any More: now, you leave jail, AND STILL have to pay off that tax debt.
Other fun fact: if you get into serious financial trouble, you can get into a 'pay-off-debt' helping scheme, where you pay off what, 5 years of your entire income (minus food) to the debt: then the rest of your debt is 'cleared', and you can start living again. BUT NOT with any tax-debts! They, after 5+ years of debt-scheme-paying off: will STILL want to go on: till the last eurocent has been secreted out of the victim. I mean slave. I mean civilian.
I have never signed a contract with any 'taxman', yet they seem to think they can demand 60+ of my income at gunpoint, slowly creeping to 100 percent tax rate: AKA TOTAL SLAVERY.
@@baskoning9896 AND, by paying you admit that the amount you're charged is correct therefore appealing the decision is an automatic rejection of the appeal.
Same with traffic fines. You have to pay before you can appeal but payment is an admission that the fine was correct and you're guilty as charged.
Structuring is one of the most unconstitutional laws on the books. It's just another reason why we need tax reform :>)
Structuring is an indicator money Laundering is going on. Should not be the nail in the coffin for a crime.
the crime is the IRS
I'm sure Biden and Harris will get right on that...
@@TheFrenchPug Exactly. We deposit less than $10K at a time because THAT"S ALL WE MAKE! Now, if the IRS was willing to GIVE US MORE MONEY, we'd be able to deposit more money! IMO the IRS was ignoring many of the "factors" in the law, which qualify whether or not there is actual "structuring" occurring - or the agents involved never passed math class! This was likely a deliberate shakedown of someone based on a perception of their name being associated with organized crime, being Italian or Sicilan.
@@TheFrenchPug There are qualifications for structuring to be considered as possible too, but it's likely that in their "haste" and carelessness the IRS ignored all the signs of a legal business and instead had another reason for persecuting this man. It would be interesting to REALLY investigate this situation, as there had to be more than small deposits that triggered this. What about businesses that DON'T make more than $10K per week?
Guilty till you prove yourself innocent