Why I prefer Webflow over Wordpress in 2024

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  • @WickyDesign
    @WickyDesign 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    I can't get past the fact that Webflow imposes strict limits on bandwidth. It's hard to take them seriously when they cap the number of form submissions a website can receive.

  • @obvinpro
    @obvinpro 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    I rather own and control my website than renting it from one company. WordPress is freedom

    • @whatsgoinon150
      @whatsgoinon150 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I personally like Webflow but I am a sick of these Webflow fanboys that think it’s the non plus ultra
      For enterprise sites and ecommerce for example Webflow just sucks

    • @_VISION.
      @_VISION. 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      WordPress is freedom trash

    • @74Gee
      @74Gee 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      WordPress might be gone in a year - check the news!

    • @Coder.tahsin
      @Coder.tahsin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@74Gee WordPress will be here as long as the web exist, because it's maintained by open source contributor, even if the owner of wp trademark Automatic shut down WordPress will be fine, but if anything go wrong with webflow good luck your website will be gone........

    • @Flemming1980
      @Flemming1980 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      freedom? what freedom. wordpress is no longer open source and wordpress can close and take over a plugin you use without any reason. for me it is not freedom or something that I not dare to build a website on.

  • @noorsh
    @noorsh 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    The best website builder, whether it's open-source or not, is the one that can help you create the solution that YOU need.

  • @GavinDavidson
    @GavinDavidson 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    WordPress Developer here, and I haven't used Webflow yet, but I get what you are saying. To set up WordPress correctly and get it working smoothly, you need to context switch all the time.

    • @FluxAcademy
      @FluxAcademy  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for contributing Gavin ✌️

  • @srceko
    @srceko 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    You forgot to mention that with WordPress you own your sites and with Webflow you rent.

    • @MoinMeister-hz8bd
      @MoinMeister-hz8bd 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Can you please explain further

    • @nsharg
      @nsharg 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MoinMeister-hz8bd
      WP is self hosted meaning you actually own your files.
      With WF - you never get access to the files of server.

    • @sudeepkarmakar
      @sudeepkarmakar 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MoinMeister-hz8bd It is simple. You can read the wordpress code play with apis and databases, scale unlimited, adding more features and functions. You can change hosting anytime. But in webflow, you can't do those things. It's very hard to change one technology to another.

    • @jochen_x
      @jochen_x 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@MoinMeister-hz8bd Webflow is Host and Server to the same time. WordPress is on your Server.

    • @gdj777
      @gdj777 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Webflow let you export your code. Hook to any cms u want.

  • @Marchetti_Design
    @Marchetti_Design 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If you need some advanced functions like filters, or ecommerce, or custom fileds, what do yo do?

  • @mado.madeleine
    @mado.madeleine 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Hey Ran, could you maybe make a video on how Webflow works/looks on the client side? 🙏🏽

  • @sudeepkarmakar
    @sudeepkarmakar 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Wordpress is very cost efficient than webflow.

    • @theokofi
      @theokofi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That’s subjective and not always true. When you account for setup time/cost and maintenance cost, they could be equal in the long run.
      PS: I’m hoping that some day Webflow allows for being able to design the site in their experience and host elsewhere or offers a cheaper hosting option ($5/month or less) and let’s you use an external db to power the CMS. I think they are taking the step with the latter by allowing CMS integration with Notion.

    • @saleemkabirkhan
      @saleemkabirkhan 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@sudeepkarmakar WordPress is heavily rely on 3rd party plugins!

    • @rimbodesigns
      @rimbodesigns 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I feel like a lot of businesses waste tons of money on maintenance cost of WordPress. And you'll lose a lot more time on the build.

  • @pedrogris
    @pedrogris 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The comparison between mac and pc, choosing the paid easy way besides the advanced one and having full control, just makes me want to use more wordpress 😇

  • @rightpadding
    @rightpadding 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ran is right, its what you prioritize and what you love doing. There are pros and cons and it depends on what's important as the designer or developer. It's his video, his opinion. What I wanted to see is Ran and Kevin Geary in one video 😂😂

  • @ttufox
    @ttufox 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    To run a Wordpress website it’s £2,99/month. How much is Webflow per month? Can I temper with the backend, APIs etc or it’s a closed system?

  • @sti_va
    @sti_va 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    One downside with Webflow is the missing email service, which you have when you set up your website with wordpress on some server.
    What solution do you recommend your clients who want to use webflow?

    • @lIlIIIIIIIlIl
      @lIlIIIIIIIlIl 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I setup email only hosting for clients using DNS to point to that server and DNS to point to webflow.

    • @danmoody2763
      @danmoody2763 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is a great point. Adding additional email hosting really ramps up the price.

  • @chicpak3329
    @chicpak3329 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I like the open-source nature of wordpress and the ability to use any CMS and plugins that I like. I Can literally do more stuffs using code on the Elementor Pro plugin. Thanks for sharing your opinions on wordpress.

    • @ethanrogers9627
      @ethanrogers9627 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But Elementor has absolutely abysmal performance compared to Webflow. And 99% of the plugins for WordPress just introduce features that are standard on every other platform, with the added cost of introducing a bunch of security risks. For small marketing sites, WordPress is more trouble than its worth.

    • @chicpak3329
      @chicpak3329 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ethanrogers9627 I have used Both platforms. So far I haven't experienced any performance issues. I have managed to get my LCP to load at 1 to 1.5 sec mark.

    • @chicpak3329
      @chicpak3329 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ethanrogers9627 I have used both platforms. So far I haven't experienced major performance degrades between these two platforms. I have even managed to load the LCP in the 1-1.5s mark. Wordpress is updated regularly to fix bugs and vulnerabilities. There are a-lot of security plugins that you can install

    • @chicpak3329
      @chicpak3329 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ethanrogers9627 I have used both platforms. So far I haven't had a major degrade in performance when using wordpress websites. On some websites I have even made the LCP load in the 1-1.5s mark. Can you explain how webflow is secure?

  • @teatapes
    @teatapes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In the process of switching now... It's amazing to be spending all my time working on design... and it's amazing that when I run into problems that I can figure them out and the solutions work. I feel like I lost part of my life to small problems in WP, lol.

  • @hayatbiralem
    @hayatbiralem 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With over ten years of experience as a Front-end and WordPress developer, I had been using WordPress until I gave Webflow a real chance-and it turned out to be an amazing experience. It prompted me to shift my entire business to Webflow. As Ran mentioned, it’s a mutually beneficial experience, both for me and my clients. If I had to describe Webflow in one word, it would be “sustainable,” without a doubt. I still support my previous WordPress clients, along with my business partner, who continues using WordPress. Every time, I realize my decision to switch to Webflow was the right one. I completely agree with the idea of using the best tool that suits your needs. However, I encourage anyone who is curious to give Webflow a genuine try. There’s no harm in testing the platform, whether you end up loving it or prefer something else.

  • @zeeq7331
    @zeeq7331 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love Webflow but the recent bandwidth limitation and extra charges if exceeded - do pose a challenge at work. Ran, how do you feel about this?

  • @RomonaFoster
    @RomonaFoster 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You're right. I'm so tired of all the errors when clents don't pay for maintenance than calling when their site crashes. After this year, I'm done. 🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @gdj777
    @gdj777 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Perhaps one of the issues with wordpress is that it has become so big and trying to be everything to everyone. High complexity = repairs and babysitting.

  • @dsgndm9692
    @dsgndm9692 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You probably won't answer the question but... I'm just starting with webflow, but I'm a heavy Figma user. Do you recommend using the figma plugin to build the websites or maybe creating from scratch in webflow and use the figma design as a reference? Thanks and amazing content and channel!

    • @mahmudzar
      @mahmudzar 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hey, noy Ran, but I would really recommend you build in webflow from scratch, especially if you're just starting out. The figma plugin will work on simple layout, but on more complex layouts, you will have to build from scratch in webflow and use your figma design as referemce.

    • @dsgndm9692
      @dsgndm9692 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@mahmudzar Thanks! That was how I did and no regrets. It was harder at the beginning but definitely more rewarding! Now I'm watching tons of videos and tips.

  • @annafilou
    @annafilou วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love this, will send to clients!

    • @FluxAcademy
      @FluxAcademy  7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Good!

  • @visualmodo
    @visualmodo 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for your video!

  • @MudassirShakeel-p3h
    @MudassirShakeel-p3h 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you so much Ransegall for all the knowledge and information you provide us daily. I am a big Fan and Learner of your Flux Academy and TH-cam channel. I have generated $50k from taking all your courses. May God Bless you and your Beautiful Family. Amen 🙂

    • @FluxAcademy
      @FluxAcademy  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wow, that's amazing! Glad the courses are helping out.

  • @camb342
    @camb342 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video Ran. Even when you ultimately end up doing a little technical stuff, it’s just so much more fun with Webflow. Also with Wordpress having a few troubles lately, maybe open source isn’t that cracked up to what it’s supposed to be.

  • @KabbaModern03
    @KabbaModern03 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My friend and I go after clients who are on WordPress because we’re developers and designers that have experience in marketing.
    Webflow gives us more time for other stuff like making social media content and ads for businesses instead of maintenance or paying someone for a website that doesn’t really help them grow.

  • @OmayerHamdi
    @OmayerHamdi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WordPress offers greater flexibility and scalability with its vast ecosystem of plugins and themes, making it ideal for complex, customizable websites. Unlike Webflow, it supports full control over code and is more cost-effective for larger projects.

  • @sebbieweb7461
    @sebbieweb7461 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your are right that's why I prefer Webflow and and Framer over WordPress and the other reason with WordPress. There seem to be a new argument every other week about something nothing is left another headache you have to deal with.

  • @mohammedbasim6232
    @mohammedbasim6232 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Do you recommend framer over webflow

    • @rafalpotasz
      @rafalpotasz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Framer has less overall functionality and possibility, but it’s catching up fast and it’s super easy to use. It’s basically Figma in a way. So the answer is the classic ‘it depends’. Even wix studio is pretty good now.

  • @firstmovement940
    @firstmovement940 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Webflow and WordPress are essentially totally different things. One is WYSIWYG editor, and the other is a proper CMS. BTW, if I had to recommend - Framer over Webflow, any day. Kirby CMS over WordPress.

    • @techiesreviews
      @techiesreviews 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      O kirby CMS, funny name gonna check that out

  • @sam-harrison
    @sam-harrison 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Strap in for this comment section Ran 😅

    • @FluxAcademy
      @FluxAcademy  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Haha. Predictable

  • @Flemming1980
    @Flemming1980 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have created websites in both wordpress and webflow. And while there are some advantages to both systems, I never really felt that it gave me the flexibility I wanted to create a website. as good as psge builder is today with e.g. bricks and webflow, you just can't do quite the same thing as coding a page by hand. However, Wordpress is far too heavy and slow for this. so my choice fell on Statamic, which gives me the flexibility I wanted and can create a much more dynamic page than with webflow without it taking longer or requiring a lot of php code. However, it requires that you know html and css.

  • @kepha930
    @kepha930 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is that the one and only Timothy? 0:44 😮😮😮

  • @saleemkabirkhan
    @saleemkabirkhan 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How you rank Webflow website on Google search? Please answer

    • @jochen_x
      @jochen_x 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same as every other CMS.

    • @saleemkabirkhan
      @saleemkabirkhan 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jochen_x Do you mean relay on 3rd party plugins?

    • @jochen_x
      @jochen_x 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@saleemkabirkhan no, content is king.

  • @pushkar-tiwari-99
    @pushkar-tiwari-99 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    But i Love Framer. why ? fast to build, easy to learn and you don't have to pay to host site with framer domain you can host unlimited number of website with framer domain. also in my country webflow basic hosting plan = framer pro plan

  • @Sparksprint2023
    @Sparksprint2023 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When I find a client should I guide them to webflow or is clients tell me which platform they want to use????

    • @alishefi163
      @alishefi163 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Sparksprint2023 if your client is OK with monthly payments go for webflow or they choose webflow but if they are miser or where you live coding and web design is less important or people don't know and you want to make a living go for WordPress. But webflow is not powerful as they advertise. They advertise because they need to earn money to pay for the servers and.... but WordPress team they let users advertise for them because they know how powerful it is

  • @dev_zeeshanx
    @dev_zeeshanx 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    WordPress has become quite problematic due to Matt Mullenweg. Choosing Webflow is a good decision. WordPress has many issues.

  • @creezlavie
    @creezlavie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So are you trying to say Webflow doesn’t pay you directly?

  • @judechiji6552
    @judechiji6552 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think WordPress gives me freedom

    • @FluxAcademy
      @FluxAcademy  7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Freedom to do what?

  • @alishefi163
    @alishefi163 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Dear Ran,
    You just started making videos based on a niche and you have to defend and like it, you couldn't get almost 1 milion followers if you started Wordpress tutorials since there is a lot of competition. That's all,

  • @raj080288
    @raj080288 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If webflow is charged monthly and you're making a website for a client, how do you actually make money?

    • @MoinMeister-hz8bd
      @MoinMeister-hz8bd 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Doesn't WordPress charge monthly or at all?

    • @raj080288
      @raj080288 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MoinMeister-hz8bd no, only for pro plugins.

    • @jubin9730
      @jubin9730 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No wordpress ls completely free​@@MoinMeister-hz8bd

    • @fnjydtfdtjdtj
      @fnjydtfdtjdtj 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MoinMeister-hz8bd Wordpress is open source so obviously no. But 3rd party plugins often do charge monthly

  • @dollarproduction24
    @dollarproduction24 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What would you prefer between Webflow and Framer? And why?

  • @tommisaltiola
    @tommisaltiola วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wish webflow were faster. Barely passes the core web vitals..

  • @Adrian-Sko
    @Adrian-Sko 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Try convincing an average client, that it's worth paying over $500 a year for a website they could have for $50 / year. If it works the same and achieve the same goals, why overpay x100 and not even own the website? And in my experience, the bigger company clients, pay more attention to cost than the "lower" clients who think paying more money, equals more value. Webflow is a tool for designers/developers, but clients don't care how the site is built, they need a site to be working, and at reasonable price. Webflow pricing has never been reasonable.

  • @StanleyMehale
    @StanleyMehale 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Webflow is very expensive

  • @KristianTheDesigner
    @KristianTheDesigner 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I primarely work in code and not low-code, however, i am a designer at heart and both are easy to use..webflow is basically figma so..maybe go for that if you know figma. Not really any issue with any of them, use whatever you are comfortable with. At the end of the day, that´s what matters. One thing must be said tho, the owner of one of those products seems a little..idk..let´s say triggerhappy.

  • @banders-ralfs
    @banders-ralfs 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    100%🙌

  • @alexway101
    @alexway101 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A professional website can only be built using an open-source CMS or developed using a robust back-end framework. Otherwise, you lose critical control over essential aspects like CSS, database, and back-end language files (e.g., PHP). You also lack control over hosting and caching. And if the platform changes its pricing, forces you onto a more expensive plan, or suspends your account for violating one of their countless guidelines, you’re stuck with no way to migrate your website elsewhere. Basically, you don't truly own the website you think is yours.
    All these "no-code nice drag-and-drop UI" CMS platforms are just a Lego set for beginners, with severe consequences users often aren’t aware of when they decide to start using them. Cause they don't have knowledge to understand this. I’m not even mentioning the limitations when it comes to professional on-page SEO. Good for your mom's cooking blog. Nothing more.

    • @FluxAcademy
      @FluxAcademy  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Strong rhetoric, but in reality there's huge companies using Webflow.

    • @alexway101
      @alexway101 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FluxAcademy I'm aware of this. Don't know any really "huge" case though. Quite big - yes. I was even involved in optimizing couple of such websites. But it only means that some big companies don't own their websites and put themselves behind their competitors right from the start by selecting "good for mom's cooking blog" solutions. Their choice. For me it just means less competition working on professional websites.

  • @reneklokkerholm1453
    @reneklokkerholm1453 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So what was u set-up in WordPress? because u cannot say wordpress vs Webflow and go with Divi builder or something like this on a shit hosting.
    There are so many tools, builders, plug-in in the WordPress community that can make u life eaiser as a freelancer og agency.
    I even think that WordPress has a more powerful Builder. (bricks)
    So when comparing please do 1-1 and.

  • @KellbishStudios
    @KellbishStudios 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Let’s goo ❤

  • @jayellwood
    @jayellwood 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why the tribalism? Use which ever is best for the project.

    • @ethanrogers9627
      @ethanrogers9627 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because specialization pays better. That aside, which types of projects is WordPress better for?

    • @jayellwood
      @jayellwood 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ethanrogers9627 Some clients have moved from Webflow back to Wordpress due to functionality issues.

  • @dmarketingacademy619
    @dmarketingacademy619 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are making a big mistake. Change your awesome courses to wordpress and then see how the amazing community is going to support you

  • @tonystarkmowa
    @tonystarkmowa 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I been using wordpress from almost 4 years now and after try webflow and framer all i can say is these both far better than wordpress in any way! you have more flexibility than in the wordpress! the only key thing about wordpress is its cheap

  • @178rohan
    @178rohan 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    its because you know everyday people wont be able to get the hang of webflow as easily and then they will turn to you ;) solid marketing

    • @seanmakura
      @seanmakura 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that's how it is with any solution that lets you have more control over your products. Wix exists for people that want something simple but webflow and Wordpress included are for more complex sites.

  • @Flemming1980
    @Flemming1980 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What webflow lacks to be a dynamic and flexible page builder is.
    1. A repeater where you can make flexible sections. e.g. flexible content with afc.
    2. A better way to write css! it doesn't work at all in webflow. If I want 3 class's on a div. then you can't just fix the last one without it affecting the rest. I am very confused about the way they have done it. Dossent match morgen Way to write Css.
    3. Webflow should focus more on the small but important things to make a website, rather than fancy things like spline animations with 3d. very few pages are made where you need it.

  • @_saminton
    @_saminton 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Put simply : because you're a designer not a developper. Webflow is targeted at designers so that you can bypass the developer.
    For me Wordpress shines when you're using a custom built theme that is built to your clients needs. Allowing them to to customise only what they need to. Page builders have always been an afterthought in Wordpress and imo completely suck. I mean what designer wants to come back to their work 3 weeks later to find that the client as completely modified the page and screwed up the design you spent so much time perfecting.

    • @KabbaModern03
      @KabbaModern03 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m a developer that uses Webflow. Pro user of it and I use premade components from my own library or from others’ to build sites.
      I then just copy and paste code into projects and match class names or ids to whatever element. WordPress is time consuming, and plugins are a drag.
      We have more bandwidth and time to do marketing initiatives in Webflow.

    • @_saminton
      @_saminton 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@KabbaModern03 I'm not saying developers shouldn't use Webflow. I'm trying to say that as a designer Webflow will obviously be more appealing than wordpress, that's what it's built for.
      What you described can be done just as well with wordpress. I'm using it as a headless CMS with a front-end built on svelte, I have a set of base components I use from website to another. The only plugin being ACF to create custom fields.
      I think Wordpress when used as a CMS is fine. When used as a website builder, I agree, it's an absolute nightmare.

  • @rimbodesigns
    @rimbodesigns 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I couldn't agree more
    WordPress is a horrible experience.
    If you are serious about your online business Webflow is the way to go.

  • @josepharoh7958
    @josepharoh7958 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First?

  • @KabbaModern03
    @KabbaModern03 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My friend and I go after clients who are on WordPress because we’re developers and designers that have experience in marketing.
    Webflow gives us more time for other stuff like making social media content and ads for businesses instead of maintenance or paying someone for a website that doesn’t really help them grow.