What size tyres fit? | SQ Grand Vitara
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2022
- Hey Guys and Gals,
This is just a quick video that will hopefully answer the age old question that gets asked 10000 times each year in Facebooks groups, "What size tyres can I put on my Grand Vitara?" If this video was helpful or entertaining please like and subscribe! - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I love the build up, makes me wanna get a Vitara immediately for African adventure...
I have a 2000 GV that lives at my house in Baja, Mexico. I used the Rocky Road Outfitters 2" kit with Old Man Emu shocks. Tires are 225/75 x 16 on stock GV wheels. Kenda Klever M/Ts.
Did you need to cut anything from the body to fit the tyres?
Got any pics?? My 2001's in Costa Rica. Will upgrade next time I go down.
I just bought one of these. Pretty cool to see a 100 subscriber channel with exactly the info I need. 😀
Haha I am glad I could help you, great little cars, let me know if you have any questions about the car happy to help out if I can. And yeah only noticed I got 100 subscribers today haha, thanks for the support.
Some additional information. I have a 2002 US spec GV 2.5 4 door. I purchased aftermarket wheels that were supposed to fit but did not. I had to use 30mm spacers and with 235/70R 16 tires there was significant rubbing that required some considerable bashing of the inner fender and trimming of the plastic liners. All is well after said bashing was completed.
My Grand vitara is 04/2005 model, the last version of that shape. They went to the new shape on 09/2005.
I just looked into sunrasia rims for our version at Tmart. He also rang around for me, and you just can't get rims for them anymore. As you mentioned, calliper rubbing issues and with the lack of popularity with this version meant discontinuation of any rims being made.
So, the standard alloy and steel rims are our only option without major steering and brake modifications, I suppose. I'm just going to do what you have done. Paint them black. Mine, as I mentioned in another post, has a 2" lift only, with Wildpeaks 235/16 R 70. Enough for what I do. Mainly beach work.
Yeah, if you get lucky you can find a set of wheels that will fit but they are pretty rare to find. I got a set I found on marketplace but brought them home and they only just rub. I am hoping to be able to modify them to fit. 2 inch lift and 235/70r16 will get you most places, that will be a good little car for you, they love the beach.
if anyone is looking for the sizes on 17" for an mk2 or mk3 gv the ones I have on now are a 225/70/17 on oem rims i don't know for the other wheel sizes. you get about inch of space between the inner wall.
Man, the articulation these thing have is wild.
Yeah it’s kind of crazy how much you get just from putting long travel shocks in.
Thats a nice brown-orange color, whats the dimension of the suzuki? it looks wider than 170cm
So glad to see so many GV owners chiming in within the past year! There are so few videos posted about these great little off-roaders. I've got a 2001 V6 4x4, totally stock, but I've been thinking about upgrading the tires to deal with muddier conditions. Something a bit knobbier. Sounds like I'm looking for 235/70 16s? (I might not know what Im talking about.😂)
235/70r16 are a very good size for stock grand vitara, they can rub a bit on full tuck but nothing to be worried about.
@@BrooksiesBackyard Does full tuck mean the wheel fully turned to the right or left?
Also, in your other video you suggested a 3" suspension lift? That's to clear this bigger size tire, correct? And if I ask a mecanic, is that relatively cheap? If I can add more off roading capability for a decent amount of money I'd be open to it. Again, I'm a noob when it comes to this stuff. Thanks in advance!
@@1ring2rule3pigs no, when your flexing off-road and your suspension is fully compressed is what I meant. But it does also rub on your chassis at the front a full lock left and right but again it’s nothing to be concerned about as it doesn’t touch much.
@@1ring2rule3pigs well I can’t remember if I suggested a 2 or 3 inch suspension lift but it is a lot cheaper to do a 2 inch suspension lift then a 3 inch. To do a 3 inch suspension lift on a grand vitara properly you need to get after market lower control arms and everything to correct the suspension geometry correctly. And the suspension lift is just to give it more flex when 4wding on grand vitaras a suspension lift doesn’t help fit bigger tyres, a body lift will help fit bigger tyres though.
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✨RARE-but-POSSIBLE 17" Rims Fitted to 2004 SQ420:
After twice seeing this vehicle scoot by me while I was in traffic, I again saw the car in a Bunnings carpark near me. I was about to leave a note for the driver so I could ask where he got his rims from, then as luck would have it (I had earlier put my order in to the Universe that we meet somehow) this dude makes a bee-line for the GV and unlocks it.
Needless to say I was quick to pull him up and get the lowdown.
First up: the wheels were 17" Dick Cepek rims (a brand now owned by Micky Thompson). He was running 235/65/R17 Khumo Road Venture AT52's with stock suspension and no lift or body kit. So ... perhaps the 17" is able to encompass the possible 'larger brakes' fitted to Aussie SQ's since those rims were spinning fine.
He had about the same 15mm mud-flap-to-rear-wheel gap as I have with my 50mm suspension lift and Cooper Discoverer AT3 235/70r/16's. He also noted his speedo was a bit out.
Next, I found he had bought the vehicle for $6k with the rims already fitted so that was the end of that road of inquiry, but he did share they would rub a bit only when turning, and was otherwise happy with them.
My enquiries at various wheel shops have led to dead ends with the shop dude left scratching his head, surprised that he couldn't find a product to sell me. I do however suspect the solution will arrive through the 17" rim range rather than the stock 16"s, but I still have to do the research before I follow through with any purchase just yet.
If any of you find a rim size in the 'Goldilocks' zone, be sure to share your gems with us all.
Yeah I have been chasing good looking 17s but they are quite hard to come by or cost the same as what the car is worth but I know ford f100 and f150 share the same stud pattern and centre bore size
I have 205/70r15 commercial tires , I plan to do a 2” lift kit with off road tires, would that rub? And would the 2” lift affect my mpg?
2 inch lift will affect your mpg a little bit but nothing too noticeable and depending on what size tyres you go will determine if they run or not, if you keep the same size and go with a mud/all terrain tyres you will definitely be fine.
thanks for share all this information to us. What do you think about 235 70 r16, 2 inch lift kit and 1.5" spacers per wheel to gain stability?
I think it should handle quite well as long as your new springs are not too soft
@@BrooksiesBackyard where I live there is no options for the Vitara/XL7 so the only option available its to use those aluminum 2" spacers for the suspension to gain ground clearance so you use all the original suspension. Is there any other model compatibility for shocks or springs to be mounted on this vitaras? I think I heard about the 07 rear tacoma shocks fits perfect on the rear in this vitaras.
@@ignacioalpra ahh I’m not sure, jimnybits can’t import you a lift kit?
@@BrooksiesBackyard Im checking with him, thanks a lot!
i have a 50mm suspension lift on my 2003 xl7 and i really want to do a body lift so i can fit some 32s with wheel spacers (i already cut the pinch weld at front) but i don´t how difficult it is to do it my self
Well I smashed the body lift out in about 2 full days of work. I didn’t have a car hoist or anything I just did it on the ground with a car jack, was a little bit dodgy but definitely doable. It’s not hard just time consuming really. If you are somewhat mechanically minded you should be all good. And to get 32s to fit without rubbing you might need to get extended bump stops aswell.
@@BrooksiesBackyard thanks for the bump stops advice, and sorry if i keep asking but i've read that you have to extend some brake lines and drop the radiator and ac condenser when you do a body lift in one of these and that you have to extend the transfer lever
@@jaimeleiva4865 soo radiator you don’t have to do anything with, extended brake lines are needed or you can just move the factory point down 2 inches, ac condenser was fine, clutch line and rear brake line pull tight so you just have to undo a bracket to it’s not pulling tight and gear leaver and transfer case leaver just need to be bent the right way for clearance, the transfer case will need an extension made up for it. Hope that covers what you need it too.
Which size did you go with?
I did 2" lift and no body lift
Mine has corrosion and I expect to do some cutting
Do you think 255/70/r16 will work? and will that fit of stock rim as well?
I am running 255/70r16 at the moment but they only fit with a 2 inch body lift or with 2 inch extended bump stops. They will fit on standard rims and I don’t think cutting the body will create any space unless you want to widen the wheel arches but that would only look good with aftermarket flares fitted
Hello, do you have any tips for installing new springs in the front. I got 4cm longer ones with shock absorbers, but I'm having really hard time getting springs on
Yeah, so the best way I found to fit the front springs is to loosen the lower control arm bolds so the control arm will swing freely then hold your spring up on the top spring seat and swing the control arm back up then and get the bottom on the spring to go where it needs to on the lower control arm and then put a jack under the lower control arm and jack it up to compress the spring the install your shock to hold the control arm up so the spring doesn’t drop out. Hope this helps
@@BrooksiesBackyard Thanks for the tip, really appreciate it. We ended lifting the whole front of the car, because at first we only lifted one side. Then we unscrewed the control arm only at the front and also sway bar. That gave us couple of more centimeters to work with and it didn't seem impossible like before. Again, thanks for the help :)
What suspension lift kit did you use or would recommend? Looking to fit 29” tires to my GV soon and seems like there aren’t many options. Cheers
Well I have the 2 inch extra articulation lift kit from black raptor, I am very happy with how it handles on and off road. I bought it from Zookoffroad Australia but it is also available from jimnybits.com
@@BrooksiesBackyard I was looking at that kit on jimnybits actually but couldn’t find anyone else talking about using black raptor suspension online. Are they good quality?
@@glenburrows1509 well i am pretty happy with the kit and I have had it for two years now. It preforms pretty good and handles well.
@@BrooksiesBackyard does it feel firmer than stock ? did the kit include shocks?
Well my standard suspicion was pretty flogged out when I had it in so when I put my two inch lift in it felt better but that was also after a wheel alignment, so I can’t really say. To me it feel’s pretty good and planted on the road. And yeah kit came with springs and shocks. I got the black raptor 2 inch extra articulation kit.
I have a 2000 GV I am at a 245 70 16 AT hankook with a 2inch lift and 2 inch wheel spacers..
Good move?
That will definitely fit and work just be careful with wheel spacers as some are not very good and the studs on them snap
@@BrooksiesBackyard hey appreciate your comment. Thank you
had to deflate my spare to get it on with no rub
How much torque did you lose? I use my GV for long distance overland trips. Did Asia and the Balkans this summer and I'm pissed with torque loss and mpg loss because of the larger tyres. I will go back close to stock.
Look honestly I get 10l/100kms (unsure of what that is in mpg) when doing long distance with the 235/70r16 and with the 255/70r16 I get around 11L/100kms which I think is about what standard fuel consumption is. I definitely have torque loss but it doesn’t make it bad to drive and sits better at 100km/h in my opinion. Mine is the 2.5L V6 Manual so that is probably the best one to have with bigger tyres.
@@BrooksiesBackyard why do you have torque loss?
@@magnumllama400 the larger tyres you put on a car changes your gear ration in a way so it reduces power and torque at the wheels. The only way to correct the ratio is to change your diff gears to suit your tyre size, but it is not necessary unless you want more torque for 4wding
Hello! Do you know if the rims have a negative ET? i have the same rims on my GV 1
I’m not 100% sure but I believe they are 0, no offset
@@BrooksiesBackyard they look like a -10 offset, i just cant find this info .(
@@claudiuflorian540 I know the alloy wheels I have are definitely 0 and I am just guessing the steel wheels are the same (they look the same to me) but I am not sure
do you have both a body lift and suspension lift? i have a 5cm body lift put the chassis is really low and i want to get it higher, what do you think will the car be stable with a 5cm body and 5cm suspension lift?
Yeah I have both a 5cm body lift and 5cm suspension lift fitted, I find it is stable on the road and don’t have any complaints, I do still have my sway bar in though.
@@BrooksiesBackyard thank you for your reply! i see you have an aftermarket front bumber, i want to fit the 255 70 16 tyres after i get my 5cm suspension lift, do you think these tyres will work with my factory front bumper?
@@ThomasSz1994 I believe they will fit but you might need to trim up the bumper a little bit down in the wheel arch.
@@BrooksiesBackyard thanks, where did you get that bumber btw?
@@ThomasSz1994 It’s a TJM alloy bull bar, Australian made, not sure if they still make it.
i have a 2004 grand vitara but im worried if i start upgrading it, its gonna break on me a month later cuz i got almost 400k km on it
I think it will be fine, you can do all the mods under the sun and they won’t really effect road driving reliably, it will only be if then you take it off road and start bunny hopping it up the side of a mountain and doing some things that you probably shouldn’t be trying that will cause it to break.
@@BrooksiesBackyard ah okay well thanks ✌️
Does 235/70R16 work , without a lift?
Yeah, they do, but they do rub a little bit. But not too bad
@@BrooksiesBackyard where actually will it rub? Fender liner, chassis?
@@kainfleskens7366 on the metal edge of the wheel arch so you need to role your fenders to stop them rubbing. They didn’t rub enough for me to do anything about them when I was stock.
I have a 2001, manual, v6, 4x4, and set up 235/75r16 falken wild peak atr3 and looks fucking awesome. They look perfect and I didn’t put any lifting kit, just new stock shocks and I can’t notice worse mpg or lost of torque.
Doesn't rub?
@@kainfleskens7366 well i haven’t fully test it on serious off roading but that’s not the intention of having my gv, I just off road when I’m going to places where I do mountain biking and most of those places makes the suspension flex a good bit and I haven’t heard or feel any rubbing, I feel that the tires performed as expected Along with the KYBs shocks that I put on and I like how it looks.
@@luismendez-tu7mr I have a Chevy tracker myself with stock tyres.
I was wondering if 235/70r16 works without a lift.
@@kainfleskens7366 I think you will be fine with that size without lifting kit. I wasn’t sure of going with 235/75r16 but I said fuck it, I gonna try, and I’m really happy with it cause I didn’t have the intention of lifting it. My size is a little taller than stock, and it has the same width than stock so that’s why it doesn’t rub. 245/75r16 it will be too much and you may need to lift. But I’ll recommend you to check out the falken wild peak at3 235/75r16 it’s a nice design and fits good.
@@luismendez-tu7mr thanks!
I haven’t read all the comments but a 245/75/16 should make a good size as it’s a bit narrow than your 255/70/16 and u have a taller sidewall
Yeah that will be a good size but you will still need the body lift or extend bump stops
Can you drop a wheel size to fit bigger tyres?
No, because you can still only go so big in tyre diameter, the only benefit to dropping rim size is so you have a larger sidewall on your tyre giving you more bag when letting air out. Also on the SQ grand vitaras unless you have a 1.6L they have brakes that are too big to fit 15inch rims unless you have over 30mm of offset so the rim clears the caliper
@@BrooksiesBackyard okay all good, have just found it quite hard here in New Zealand to find rims that will fit with 16inch and the stud pattern 5/139.7
@@luke2smith yeah, same here in Australia
Excelente carro yo le pondré 245 70 16 después de levantar la suspensión 5cm
That will be awesome, will drive almost anywhere!
Se puede hasta 245/75 r16 tranquilamente con levante de 5" & espaciadores de 1,5
Que son espaciadores?
Hahaha. This tires for me os to baby's i use um Portugal on a sidekick 235/85 r16 with huge Rubber
Do you still run the swaybars?
Yep sure do, I have to do too many long highway drives so I want to keep it in for stability.
@@BrooksiesBackyard yeah that’s probably the safest way
I have 235/75/15 in my 2002 Chevy Tracker
In Australia our lwb grand vitaras/trackers can’t fit 15 inch rims sadly. I’m not sure if we have bigger brakes than the rest of the world.
@@BrooksiesBackyard i didn’t know that 😳
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Can confirm. 255/70 r16s are only 30.1s not 30.5s
Yes and no, when using a tyre size calculator they come up as 30.1s but in real life depending on the brand and tread pattern you will find they can’t be larger than expected.
@@BrooksiesBackyard wouldn't it be the same with all tyres then? So like a 29 would be a 29.5?
@@mitchellboreham3598 I have found that is can vary between brands, my 29s are true to what the tyre size calculator says but my “30.1s” are actually 30.5 when measured with a tape measure. I don’t know why but that just has been what I have found. Some tyre manufacturers have there own sizing on there website when you go into there tyres and it can be different to what you find with a tyre size calculator.
I have one in horrible condition
You need to fix it up, every zook is worth saving!
@@BrooksiesBackyard il try!, just gonna check how bad the rust is in the spring. my uncle used it as a snow plow so.... I hope its rainbows and sunshine's!
Replace the head gasket, already!
All in time, all cost too much money haha. But will hopefully be doing a budget rebuild on that motor in the nearish future.
@@BrooksiesBackyard
I'm working on a 2008 GV, restoring it after a front end collision. Not 'at fault' of course.
Worth the time and money, tho.
Gotta save every zook
@@BrooksiesBackyard
Especially the older ones, 2012 and older...The recently released, 2022 GV is made by Toyota, in India. They signed a partnership deal with Subaru as well. So look for new cars sold between those 3 companies.
Suzukis are no longer sold in Canada. Used parts are scarce.
With a little bitty work you can fit 32.8"😂
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Where are you located?
@@XaTuaP Kamchatka, Russia