FULL 6.0L DYNO RESULTS. HOW MUCH HP DOES THE LOW BUCK TRUCK CAM MAKE? IS IT THE BEST 6.0L LS CAM?
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- WHAT IS THE BEST 6.0L CAM FOR TOWING? WHAT IS THE BEST 6.0L CAM FOR A DAILY DRIVER? WILL THE LOW BUCK TRUCK CAM WORK ON A 6.0L? HOW MUCH POWER DOES IT MAKE ON A 6.0L? IS IT TOO SMALL FOR A 6.0L? HOW MUCH POWER CAN I MAKE WITH THE LOW BUCK TRUCK CAM ON THE 6.0L? HOW MUCH TORQUE CAN I MAKE WITH THE LOW BUCK RUCK CAM ON THE 6.0L? WILL I LOSE LOW SPEED TORQUE? DOES IT WORK BETTER ON THE 6.0L THAN THE 5.3L OR 4.8L? CAN I RUN BOOST ON THIS CAM? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I COMPARED THE STOCK VS LOW BUCK TRUCK CAM ON A 6.0L AS WELL AS REMINDING YOU WHAT IT DID ON THE 5.3L NA AND WITH A TURBO. THIS CAM WORKS WELL ON A 6.0L (AND DISPLACEMENT) FOR A DAILY, TOWING, FOR ALL-AROUND PERFORMANCE AND BOOST!
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That 6.0 is a 500 lb/ft monster with full exhaust and cathedral port heads. 💪
Good lord she's strong 💪💪 Definitely a great camshaft. I need to get this 6.0 pulled out of this parts truck and get started on it.
No doubt!
I just recently threw together an engine for a friend just because I had the stuff laying around for good old beater work truck... 6.0 short block had a bad cam stop I put in a 4.8 cam and heads I had laying around and the low rpm tq, throttle response and mpg were all improved, he said it never ran this good and he's had it the last 200,000 miles. I built a similar 6.4 hemi for my truck, BGE truck short block. 5.7 cam and heads and it's a touring beast, better tq to get a heavy trailer moving from a stop, better throttle response, better mpg, less down shifting... that one ran so good that when a friend borrowed it while i was putting ties on his that he paid me to do the same thing to his truck. I'm about to experiment on another of my 6.4 hemis gonna use an srt8 long Block 5.7 cam so it will have even more compression and more airflow to see how it does.
All of these videos are making me super excited to get the turbo on my truck 😁
You should!
I would really like to see you run these engines with full accessories. Alternator,AC, water pump, everything. Then take the same thing and put it on either a hub dyno or chassis dyno.
see the accessory video and the engine dyno to chassis dyno vide
Richard, thank you for all your videos. Amazing info. I just got my first 6.0L it is in a 2005 2500HD 4WD Truck. I do plan on towing with it and make it more reliable and make more power. I am looking to start with a CAM and exhaust. I am leaning towards long tube headers based on your other videos. With that being said what should I go with for the best performance brands included. If there is anything else I need to do please let me know. I would like to make around 600HP.
you won't make 600 hp from a cam-that requires everything to be changed
Strange request for HP Dyno channel but I'd love to hear "idle lope"
Wishing this for several cam test. Ty for Data
lots of people want idle clips
@@richardholdener1727 I already give 👍 up but I'd try sharing too if you would enter idle clips.
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People that more worried about lope than performance shouldn't be in hotrods at all
@@HioSSilver1999 hot rods or racing... GET OFF THE LAWN
Great video as always! Love all the LS stuff. Mostly Gm/ls guy but my pops has a 5.4 2v. Would like to see some videos on that if possible. Or maybe atleast convos. I will keep up and watching videos and try to join the live stream whenever possible! Keep the videos coming!!🙌
Noted! I have only run 5.4l 4V stuff so far
@@richardholdener1727 Hi Richard love the content and the detail you go into! Recently upgraded my daily/tow rig from a 1500HD LQ4 to a 2022 F250 with 6.2 gas. I thought my trusty chev pulled strong! The ford is even more impressive! Love to see a ford 6.2 dyno’d must be a few of them in junk yards with all the 3/4 and 1 ton fleet trucks! Keep up the great work!
I must have missed it somewhere Richard, springs/ no springs required. Thanks for your time. I still have the best cam on my shelf and thinking about this one also for my LQ4. Little lost now which way to go.
I could have run this cam with the stock (550 lift) LY6/LS3 springs, but not the stock (500 lift) springs on most cath port heads. BTR has $79 springs
Another great video Richard. Can you do a btr pds stage 1 2 3 4 test the new v2 torque ones on a 6.2
Would like to see them all back to back
with a blower?
@@richardholdener1727 would be nice i know you done a lot on positive displacement cams before but a lot of these new grinds saying big gains on less intake duration and they gone away from 120lsa to like 113 lsa or so etc etc. Some people saying stage 4 btr you have to rev to moon on 6.2l etc etc other say makes huge power but yeah no other tests you see are as good comprehensive as yours
As I watch your videos, I am noticing more and more, issues that I suspect are health-related. I hope I'm wrong, and even more, I hope you are ok, Richard.
The early 6.0l cam is the same cam that was used in 00+ LM7's(12560967), the later 6.0l cam is the 00+ LS1 cam(12561721).
Awesome, thanks for this test Richard!🤘
Another great test
Looking forward to receiving mine for my son's truck
How much HP do you think is lost once all 6.0 accessories are added? (Post-viewing edit: thanks for doing the LY6 test with manifolds, and the 5.3 vs. 6.0 overlay. Helps me visualize the upgrade I'm currently doing: stock 5.3 to 6.0 w/Low Buck cam.)
see accessory video
Loss from accessories, and - in a vehicle it won't be run as cool as they run them on the engine dyno. So account for that as well.
@@richardholdener1727 thanks, that helped add to the knowledge bank.
@@akmjolnir-v4rAbout -25hp/-30hp
About 30 hp
I have -2cc 30 over forged summit pistons, 799 texas speed prc stage 2.5 heads and truck norris cam cant wait to see how it runs. Kinda thinking i need a bigger cam...
It does. Is does too. Wish it was a gen3 6.0l. Glad you ran manifolds.
same results with cath heads
@@richardholdener1727have you tested any of the comp thumpr cams on the 5.3 or 6.0 truck engines, what are your thoughts on the power of that cam with 222/233 duration in those engines
@@richardholdener1727 I know, I know. Purely selfish reasons. It's what I own.
@@rodneybland3928 He has some videos up with very similar cams. I found a few that were close to that spec looking for similar numbers to the Summit Stage 1 turbo (Ghost cam) that I put in my 408 build (CNC ported 317 heads, TBSS intake). My Ghost cam is 222/233 115+3 .600/.575 Lift and while I haven't had the Chevelle on the dyno yet, it works with the stock 4L80E converter, and has a strong powerband from 3000rpm-6500rpm and I set the limiter at 6800rpm.
and I will add, it's probably at the limit of the stock converter with my 408, it would probably need a mild stall converter (2400-2800) on a 6.0L and definitely need one on a 5.3L
This came out at a good time. My 4.8l showed alot of fine shinys in the oil change... so I've wanted to possibly swap the engine to a 6.0 and didn't want to go crazy in the first place. This cam along with a stock setup sounds like it would be right where I wanted it. Curious if the lbt cam would be fine with 87 Oct fuel just everyday driving. I'm not racing the truck, just everyday stuff and some hauling.
yes-it works on 87
Not going to lie, part of me wishes you had run 706 heads instead of the rec ports. Regardless, glad you put this cam in a 6L.
Any chance you tested the larger of the two cams you sell on the 6L? (Future video possibly with the 219/225 cam?)
I did not, but on a 5.7L it was about 12-15 hp better (only better above 5000)
What is idle quality on this camshaft??
@@paulmarquez6446 not stock, but not radical in a 6.0L I'd describe it as a steady lope. I have a similar cam in my LQ4 and I daily drive it. I was able to drive it on a stock converter, but it was kind of soft. It definitely liked when I went to a looser converter and more gear.
@bluecollarhotrods9781 ok thank you for the response I have 06 1500HD 6.0 I live in SoCs just wondering if it had a lopey idle where it be detected in a smog check
@@paulmarquez6446 yeah, I have 3 mufflers on my truck and it still draws attention in traffic. I have plenty of videos on my channel.
I'd love to see you experiment on a Pontiac ohc sprint 6
me too
How about the same tests with cathedral port heads to see if they would gain any lower speed tourqe over the rectangle ports..
I have rec port vs cath port videos up-several
I'm coming into this a little late Richard, I like the Sloppy Stage 2 (Elgin 1840p) in a 6.0L, just what cam is the Low Buck Truck Cam ? LQ4/9 ? Is it one of your own ?
it is my cam, it is 552 lift, 212/22x and 107. I have compared it to the SS2 on the dyno. This cam makes more torque (30+ lb-ft) up to 5000 rpm then the SS2 makes more peak power
This low buck truck seems like a winner. Do you have any other cams?
I have 1 step bigger Truck Plus (585 lift, 219/225, 111)-it makes 12-15 more hp on top (above 5000 rpm on a 5.3L)
@@richardholdener1727 I have a very similar cam in l76 g8. 219/223 615 lift 112 lsa
Thank you for making the video!
You doing alright Richard? Last few videos I hear you breathing a little heavy at times.
Thanks for the testing as always
I want to build the “ultimate tow pig” 06 Silverado 2500 6.0/4l80 , would you do SBE heads cam , tbss intake? 408 , or SBE with a whipple? I want a close to stock idle too
Whipple with a mild cam will way more power than a 408 with a mild cam
@@richardholdener1727 would you be concerned about reliability with the blower on the SBE with 160k miles? Also anything I would need to do to the stock 80E?
What are the cam specs on your 2 cams?
Low Buck Truck is 552, 212/22x, 107, Truck Plus is 585, 219/225, 111
@RichardHoldener just an Idea.... We all love hp but most of us tow these projects often and not all of us like diesel engines or their cost but just wondering let's just say you have a 03 Silverado 2500 and looking to turbo it for some down low torque how would you recommend that 6.0 LS be built for low RPM TORQUE for towing
USE A STOCK CAM
I have the same idea, I built a custom 1988 full sized Bronco 351W 70mm turbo Holley EFI, E85, you name it. I haven’t gotten it tuned right yet but I’m seeing really high EGT pre turbo running empty so I’m worried about towing. You can see the build on my TH-cam channel short video, my goal is to prove to my self that you can build a large engine “ecoboost” and make it efficient and powerful with out shortening its life too much. So far I’m not convinced with the heat issue I’m seeing. But I’m use to building and driving diesels (3406B cat) and seeing no more than 1200° EGT wide open throttle in Texas heat. Hope this helps you!
@@richardholdener1727 ok stock cam but would you keep stock heads or go 706's would you mill the 317 heads id love to hear your thoughts on it
@@timbowalkit feels like you're digging to ruin the purpose of the tow rig. If you already plan to turbo it just get the supporting mods and do your maintenance. You don't need it to be crazy you just need it to be reliable and just a stock 2500 gas that's well maintained can do that for you. No use straining anything for a vehicle that has only one real purpose
@@frbrbrgrblgrr7777 you do that to your truck I'd rather build mine to work and enjoy the fact that it works better than it was intended to
Hmm I need t stop watching these. I keep changing my mind on what I want in my truck with the lq4/60e. I was set on 706 and te truck Norris. Or possibly 243’s and the truck Norris but now this cam puts out good power too. 🫠🫠🫠🫠
243/799s work on 5.7+ if you can get a flat top 6.0 do it.
I wouldn't bother with 243/799s on any milder street car. The 706 makes more power under the curve but you miss out on 5-8hp on the top..
However if you are itching to spend the money send those 706s off to katech and have them run them through their cnc mill for $600 and have a great budget head.
the TN makes the same power-it is a good cam (just costs more)
@@shadowopsairman1583 it has the dished pistons. I’d like more of the power down low so I’d probably go 706 with the tbss intake and ls3 gold blade TB I have ready for it.
is there a link to where i can buy one of these cams?
Thanks
email me-killerbe16@aol.com
what low buck set up for a 2014 L94 6.2 build (89 k miles when pulled) with hope of up to 600 HP and some durability. I plan to delete vvt and dod, Cam springs push rods, and lifters. Have the e85 injectors, have holly terminator x max. I saw comments about you selling stuff... can you provide a link? Best regards, thanks for what you do to educate folks.
use the email supplied in the video-but 600 flywheel from a 6.2L takes a lot of stuff
Well I was gonna get the low buck cam but just ordered truck plus cam.. why not it's not a daily..
THEY BOTH WORK
Watching now... I may say I love you... NOHOMOBRO😂
A idle video would be nice!
Richard, I’ve seen plenty of your videos as and im trying to get as much information but right now I’m in the process of putting a cam in my 6.0 with 317 heads and I would want to if I could run a cam with a .617 lift on the stock head ? Or what would be thes best cam to get as much hp and torque as possible
with the right springs you can run over 600 lift, but lift isn't what will decide the power.
Last yr I built an lq4 low miles . I bought set of heads 317 shaved .35 ported heavy both sides. I ran a btr truck cam stage 4 v2. 1/7/8 headers Holley single plane 850 brawler. And few other tricks. It pulls hard 3800 stall 3:73 in a old C10 . Not sure what ur setup is but build something street if ur going to drive on street. Not always big cam is the best .
Hey Richard! Where do i go to Purchase the Low Buck Camshaft i stay in Houston TX. Id appreciate sum info on this cam too thank you Richard!
killerbe16@aol.com
Definitely do a patreon
What springs do you recommend? Or are the stock ones fine?
btr has $79 springs or you can use factory 550-lift ls3/ly6/ls6 springs
Gains per dollar as compared to BTR NSR TruckNorris?
this makes a touch more than NSR for less $
I got the super richie 219 for my 6.0 thinking bout that low buck truck for my daily 5.3
good choice
Hi Rich: Id like to put in a Truck Norris cam in my '08 Escalade 6.2 LS. Can I just swap cams or do I need to do springs and rods too. Thanks.
you can run that cam with the stock (550 lift) springs on your rec-port heads
Where can i buy this low bucks cam shaft and what rods and springs are needed
email me killerbe16@aol.com
this is a copy of the truck norris? have you seen reports that the TN is actually 109 lsa? did you measure the TN yourself or just copy the advertised specs?
the TN is NOT 109, nor is this cam
Can a gen 3 , 6.0L truck block with stock crankshaft and connecting rods handle 650hp N/A power reliably or would I need a forged rotating assembly.
it has handled 1300+ hp for 100s of runs with boost so 650 hp is no problem-rpm is more of an issue
@richardholdener1727 what if I was going to spin it to 6500 to 7000 rpm
if it did 492 with stock exhaust manifolds where do you think it would be with headers, 520ish?
not that much
About 502hp
I’d wonder if the newer cam went to the one bolt design or not to tell the difference between the new and old lq4 and lq9 cams maybe? I’ll have to look that up
both are 3 bolt
@@richardholdener1727 after looking it up it looks like really just the piston and injectors are different from the lq4 to the lq9 and maybe the increase in horsepower is just the compression ratio going up a little on the flat top pistons alone, or heads and compression. Now I’m curious if those cams are different at all. I like learning this stuff it helped me find a 3 bolt 4x cam gear for my daily.
Looks like two part numbers tho 0967 and 1721 are numbers I’ve found
I am curious to know how the Truck Norris cam compares to the TS Torquer V4 cam.
never tested that cam
@@richardholdener1727 They both seem to be going for higher average ratings.
Who makes the low buck truck cam and what are the specs?
I do -552 lift, 212/22x and 107
We get different 6.0L in Australia. L76,L77,L98. But great
they all do the same thing
@@richardholdener1727 yeh mine hot 398rwhp not bad for an auto streeter
Now its time to see what the chop monster and madd maxx cams do haha
Would I get any idling problems etc …by a porting a TBSS manifold to match my 102mm throttle body?
might be hard to go that big-questions is, do you need that size tb?
@@richardholdener1727The thing is I already have that throttle body on my lsxrt manifold but whenever I got it installed it got a bunch of little cracks where the bolts get tighten. So it idles like shit and doesn’t work as it needs to be.
Let’s see the same video with the truck plus cam!
The Truck Plus makes 15 hp (os so) more above 5000 rpm but loses below that
Please sir please please please put the truck Norris cam on a 408 stroker! Please!
That would be a very cool test
I don't have one but know what it would do based off other 408 cam testing
@richardholdener1727 Don't tease us, tell us what she'll do. I've been considering a stroker LQ9 with a mild cam for my old Escalade winter beater.
So which is the super Richie this cam or another cam
I have two cams-the Low Buck Truck (212/22x) and the Truck Plus (Super Richie) 219/225
Try melling stage 5 cam please
LS1/LQ9 cam is 1721, LQ4 cam was same as LM7
LATER lq4 WAS THE SAME AS lq9
Does the low buck truck camshaft have a name?
yes-Low Buck Truck
@@richardholdener1727 Do you have a link for purchasing?
what are the specs of the LBT? 550 or 600 max lift?
550 lift
I wanna see some test with the ls1
plenty of those up on my channel
Will i need a higher stall converter with a lq9 and 4l60e with 373 gears in a rcsb sierra
no-but converters help
First
Edit: I’ve always wanted to say that 😂 thanks for always putting out these informative videos Rich!
Is there anymore gen 3 hemi stuff coming?
I don't have any Gen 3 Hemi test motors right now
Hey Richard what are the specs on this low buck truck an what centerline is it ground on?
552 LIFT, 212/22X AND 107
@richardholdener1727 ,that's not much less than I used on my 410 ls , did you happen to get the idle vacuum?
Outstanding!
How does this cam compare to a SS3 on a LY6 6.0?
a SS3 is a much bigger cam and will make more peak power but be down in torque production through much of the curve. The SS3 is less of a street cam and more of a strip cam.-see the SS3 video
Richard have you ever tested the summit 8715r1 "ghost cam" its a 222/234 cam i believe it used to be a turbo "stage 1" cam but many people are running it NA i just got it installed on my 6.0 s488 combo but i had to order 7.450 pushrods due to the base circle being alightly different than the oem lq4/9 cam. I searched but havent seen it in any of your videos and i was just curious. Seems like a good middle of the road cam with nice driving manners but decent top end.
Do they call it the “ghost cam” because it doesn’t chop super hard? I had never heard of it but I’ll check it out 😎
A 222 cam is not what I would pick for a driver nor would I expect good boost response (certainly not with a 488), unless you have a stall converter too. Your 1000+ hp combo seems more oriented to the race end of the spectrum, but I bet it is fun.
@@richardholdener1727 you would think that but it actually lights off super easy it's on a 115 lsa which I think contributes to that but I have a 3200 stall and at 3000rpm I'm already at 3-4 psi in no time. It's pretty fun 9.9:1 forged pistons and rod deal the truck actually drives pretty well and isn't as terrible on fuel as you would think. It's a street truck but I already went 10.4s on a 5.3 and 7875 trying to go 9.9 on street tires 😂 it's a 4wd rcsb
@@Scott_Buchanan you can make it not chop by bumping the idle but it has a little lope to it. Seems like it's gonna be a decent cam but I've only driven it once so far as I just finished the build and had a few other things I needed to add to get it where I want it
How would this work on a 2013 6.2L?
very well
where can I buy this cam?
use the email supplied in the video -killerbe16@aol.com
Do you ship to canada?
I have not-the shipped price is for the US but could look into international costs
@@richardholdener1727 I was just about to ask this same question. We get hammered so bad already on exchange, when a good LS cam that won't cost 600 Canadian pesos pops up it's like waving candy in front of a baby. Please look into shipping up here!
What are the specss on the low buck truck cam?
552 lift, 212/22x dur and 107
@@richardholdener1727 Thank you
Need to test that new hawks tuah cam
Where are the specs for this cam?
212/22x
@richardholdener1727 will this cam have a nice lope in a 4.8 ? If so I'll buy 1!
how well would it work in a stock 2005 LS2
very well for a driver
for $179, Is this is a regrind stock cam?
It is brand new with specs and hardness guaranteed. No cheap regrinds
@@richardholdener1727 man that is a good deal!
@@richardholdener1727 awesome, that's a great deal! any plans for other application? small block ford maybe?
What’s the best streetable cam for a l9h?
the Low Buck Truck cam I offer for $179
@@richardholdener1727 Thank you for the response
Truck plus next?
truck plus is only better above 5000 rpm
How to order
send email-killerbe16@aol.com
Where can i get this cam
killerbe16@aol.com
@@richardholdener1727 thank you much sir
Does anyone have any info on the Mad maxx camshaft?
So what cam is is this?
Low Buck Truck
Yes!
Let’s gooooo
It proves their is no replacement for displacement!...
RPM
@@soilsmanadv6673 except maybe BOOST
RPM ain't that much fun when driving your truck for hours on end.
What coil brackets do you have on that 5.3?
1543 HP!
The thing about stock manifolds on a 6.0 vs headers on the 5.3 is the test isn’t apples to apples 😅😅
we didn't compare the 5.3l to the 6.0L, we were just comparing the gains offered by the cam swap on both (your comment isn't apples to apples)
@@richardholdener1727 You the MAN Richard!! 💯
Hawk Tuah cam is the best
What lube for that?
Can u convert a 2006 chevy silverado 1500 with a 6.0L engine to run flex fuel
yes