Dude I'm guessing you have an Ivision pro yourself. As a tech enthusiast with only the meta quest 3.. I just downloaded it AND ITS ABSOLUTELY WORTH THE 10$ HOLY CRAP!!! AM LOSING MY MIND OVER THIS THANKS ❤
As avid Vision Pro user who also has Quest headset, this is cool for those who want to get some feel of what it’s like to operate in AVP w/o the price. It’s not the same experience as the real thing and has its limitations but for a 3rd party, this is cool; especially for the price. Props to the developers who made it.
I’m definitely up for checking the app out. My only thing is this is a third-party app so you’re having I would assume to sign in to your Apple account Google account if you choose to use Google as well and I’m concerned about sharing my login information with a third-party app!
Yeah, I had this concern as well. It seems like a collossal amount of access to give to a 3rd party. (I started wondering about this kinda stuff more recently after I visited the upload website and it asked if I was okay accepting to give my usage data and personal info to.. I think it was around 950 different companies and it actually staggered me.)
I went onto the companies discord server and under the faq section they say they do not save any of that kind of information. I did log into my gmail account on it to watch some youtube videos, I just made sure I logged out before I left, but that being said I do have 2 part authorization set up for any important accounts, so if someone does access it other than me, I get notified via phone and email etc
This looks really good, but since it's 3rd party, I'd assume it needs a lot off access permissions so that it can function correctly. Do you know anything about the privacy settings or anything that might protect customer data? Also, good video as always!
Is The Spatial App better than just using the browser in Meta Quest 3? Will I get the same results if I just bookmark all these same apps? Also, can I mirror my computer screen in meta quest 3 with multiple windows open?
I want to make a competitor to vision Pro. The idea's called naturalSet, and it would run naturalOS. As the name suggests, emulating full 3D without gestures. Think this, but gestures go bye-bye.
the only way to make a competitor to the already dead vision pro is to match the only thing that's unique and that's the 3500 usd price tag. also, what the hell is 'naturalos'??? not a 3d distro as far as im aware. just something you made up??? and wtf do you mean 'emulating full 3d without gestures'??? what does that even mean?
So, it is like the old Desktop RIA that did boosted PIA's before PIA's were an evolved thing but in VR. Genius idea no doubt. And actually Useful and good unlike Poki which sucked given how limited the apps were back then.
So all of these apps are on the Quest 3 anyway. Wny would I download this and take up more space? Just curious. I guess for those who don't haave an Apple phone but I see no point in this. Just saying.
It's because the software allows the apps to be used together in such a way as we cannot currently do with MQ3 software natively. Some people like that.
Big miss with this approch is that they don't do advance rendering (background blur, transparency, drop shadow) Plus, Visuion OS is based on gaze/pinch, no way this app gives you the proper feeling that Apple manage to achieve.
@@OverbiteGames A good demo project would be to replicate this using a Varjo and an advanced GUI such as Noesis GUI and check how tide to Apple hardware solution this interface model is (Depth + lidar + 2498 cameras). Not web based but should be closer because of better native rendering pipeline. Any good link you suggest on mobile deferred renderer?
Hmmmm.... meh. Vision OS is limited. It's deliberately limited to do what Apple reckon they can get the average non-tech person to understand. The look and feel of Vision OS is absolutely not important. Copying the look and feel and then delivering it in a way that only mimicks a subset of Vision OS's features is entirely the wrong way round.
I have the app and is cool but it is only a browser trying to match the look of VisionOS. Just that. I love my Quest 3 but reading people thinking it is the same as AVP is quite funny (and sad too) This is indeed an AVP fan love letter IMHO
AVP is waaaaaayy overpriced and overhyped imo. From what I've seen, Quest 3 is a much better deal on almost all fronts - and the few things that AVP has over it are nothing deal-breaking for me. I wouldn't want Vision OS to replace my Quest 3 software even as it is, and we're supposed to be getting an entire re-factor sometime soonish.
@@Atreyuwu Well, that thing is expensive for sure but it is not too pricey since it has a full M2 computer inside. Every top spec quality product is expensive. Varjo, Xtal, Hololens are more expensive and the are just headsets depending on expensive PCs. I get a Quest user usually won’t need an AVP of course. Apple was very clear about that. AVP is more an experiment and developer kit to build the foundation of the Apple XR ecosystem. Not a consumer product. They have been building it many years using the iPhone to develop the tools and frameworks and now it is time to apply it to a real device.
laggy due to recording + having many apps open + recording through passthrough + using handtracking + prior to performance increases + many many more..
Dude I get it. You want to show what is possible but please stop moving all over the place like you in a formula 1 race. 🤣🤣. 3 minutes in and I'm dizzy
@@Mr.Meowtain43 apple likes to name things in a wears or forcefully different way. So they can trademark/license the therm or get recognition just by people using it. This one is one of the more obvious. They just didn't want to use the therm VR to describe theire """special""" headset. They need to be different so hard to invent a new word for one that is already widely used and understood. Know everyone thinks they invented a crazy new thing, which is always the thing with them. They want everybody to think they invented everything. But in most cases they just renamed something that already existed.
If I want an Apple Vision Pro, I'll buy it, but trying to pretend I have it on the Quest 3 is like sticking a Mercedes star on a Ford car and imagining you're driving an S-Class. It's just sad.
Every time I try to do work on the quest 3 I had to stop after just 15 minutes. The pass through experience is too horrible. Horrendous warping, the unreasonable high noise, low fidelity image. I rather spend 200$ more for decent cameras on board. I hope meta learned this lesson with the next quest.
I guess it's not 200e for cameras (well, to amend the noise level maybe) it's millions and time in r+d to do the magic of translating two feeds recorded not where your eyes are (physically impossible) in a perspective correct output all without a brutally potent chip like apple's
@@RaM-xy8kg you nailed the other point too. Is not just one but two chips. Although I can’t find any specifications about the R1. And and also considering that the dragon chip is a mobile one, things can’t be fix just by slapping a second one on board for the quest. Three thought, by the other hand… 🤔💭
@@RaM-xy8kg From what I've seen from a few TH-camrs, the Vision Pro doesn't do the perspective correction correctly, or at least not as well as the Quest. It would be interesting to see what an uncorrected Quest 3 passthrough would look like.
@@Xenon0000000000001 oh really? if anything I would have expected apple not to launch until they had that nailed down. btw for an uncorrected view the original quest 1 was a good example. the quality was of course miserable but that sense of looking at the feed of camera just a little bit in front of you was disturbing
I've heard/seen many reports of people saying many things on the AVP are subpar compared to the MQ3. If you're having passthrough issues, you should make certain your lighting is good and try a full factory reset a few times. Mine was quite grainy until I did that. Also, if you've been a user of any of the previous VR headset offerings, the Meta Quest 3 passthrough is WORLDS better. Both VR/MR can do with higher fidelity, and because it is so close to our eyes and we are trying to emulate somewhat how we see things irl, it won't be 'perfect' until it can match retinal resolution on both fronts - that being said, I absolutely have no issues with MQ3 passthrough in good light!!!
Pretty cool. I cant imagine apple not sueing them for copying their design one to one. But what I am looking forward to is that meta itself will bring more and more of the spacial features that the AVP hast to their system soon.
What did they copy...? It looks like any other operating system on a cell phone just floating together in the air. Apple Vision Pro uses eye tracking to navigate the apps this one uses a pointer from the fingers. I don't think they used anything special unless you're talking about the bar at the bottom of the screen to move around and in the corner to make screen bigger. Every thing uses that feature. So what did they copy, That no other operating system hasn't already...?
Its probably also too small for apple to go against it, but you never know. It's Apple and they are known for suing people that copy their design or other stuff they do even if they did not invent it in the first place and took ideas from somewhere else.
I swear this is not sponsored by wish. com XD. Wish dot com vision pro😂
love your videos bro!
lol I really hope! XD
you have a pet wolf?
@@LarsAgerbk yep :) he is the best
Thanks for your honest review. We really appreciate it!
Dude I'm guessing you have an Ivision pro yourself. As a tech enthusiast with only the meta quest 3.. I just downloaded it AND ITS ABSOLUTELY WORTH THE 10$ HOLY CRAP!!! AM LOSING MY MIND OVER THIS THANKS ❤
As avid Vision Pro user who also has Quest headset, this is cool for those who want to get some feel of what it’s like to operate in AVP w/o the price. It’s not the same experience as the real thing and has its limitations but for a 3rd party, this is cool; especially for the price. Props to the developers who made it.
clearly the apple charm can't really be replicated but it's pretty good from an outside perspective
Seems to have come on a bit and I can't handle the motion blur of the AVP.
Better battery life, better confort, more apps and can actually play games for 3k$ less! Lmao
Better comfort 😅
@@Ballman404 The Apple Vision comfort is so trash! Quest 3 is not good too, but still better than the Apple one 💀💀
Maybe not longer battery life but id rather have 10 minutes less for 3000 less
@@reikoow not good is a understatement
@@reikoownot good is a understatement
I got that it has some useful web apps and widget built in, but the question I gave is whether it supports eye tracking on quest pro?
Yes it supports eye tracking for quest pro. You may need to recalibrate it and/or not wear glasses (if you do).
I’m definitely up for checking the app out. My only thing is this is a third-party app so you’re having I would assume to sign in to your Apple account Google account if you choose to use Google as well and I’m concerned about sharing my login information with a third-party app!
It seems to happen on the browser, infact it asked for confirmation on my phone to log in, but of course I understand the concern
Yeah, I had this concern as well. It seems like a collossal amount of access to give to a 3rd party. (I started wondering about this kinda stuff more recently after I visited the upload website and it asked if I was okay accepting to give my usage data and personal info to.. I think it was around 950 different companies and it actually staggered me.)
I went onto the companies discord server and under the faq section they say they do not save any of that kind of information. I did log into my gmail account on it to watch some youtube videos, I just made sure I logged out before I left, but that being said I do have 2 part authorization set up for any important accounts, so if someone does access it other than me, I get notified via phone and email etc
This looks really good, but since it's 3rd party, I'd assume it needs a lot off access permissions so that it can function correctly. Do you know anything about the privacy settings or anything that might protect customer data? Also, good video as always!
Is The Spatial App better than just using the browser in Meta Quest 3? Will I get the same results if I just bookmark all these same apps? Also, can I mirror my computer screen in meta quest 3 with multiple windows open?
I HAVNT EVEN FINISHED WATCHING THE VIDEO AND I NEED TO DOWNLOAD THIS APP IMMEDIATELY.
Is this functionally any different from Fluid which is free?
Thanks. I’m assuming it doesn’t do Apple messaging, emails, or know your saved passwords? I like Quest games, but not the OS user interface.
I want to make a competitor to vision Pro. The idea's called naturalSet, and it would run naturalOS. As the name suggests, emulating full 3D without gestures. Think this, but gestures go bye-bye.
the only way to make a competitor to the already dead vision pro is to match the only thing that's unique and that's the 3500 usd price tag. also, what the hell is 'naturalos'??? not a 3d distro as far as im aware. just something you made up??? and wtf do you mean 'emulating full 3d without gestures'??? what does that even mean?
@@joogled1839he basically means he'd make a custom os like visionOS but without hand tracking and instead with controllers so yeah bad idea
@@Matthew_MBG this comment actually seems ai generated to me lmfao. guy actually just made up a name for his own operating system and called it a day.
Why does the spatial app interface look like it is from the PSVita lol
I totally agree with you Ty.......
So, it is like the old Desktop RIA that did boosted PIA's before PIA's were an evolved thing but in VR. Genius idea no doubt. And actually Useful and good unlike Poki which sucked given how limited the apps were back then.
Awesome. Do you think will send a cease and desist?
does all the streaming video services stream at full HD???
yes I think it does
So all of these apps are on the Quest 3 anyway. Wny would I download this and take up more space? Just curious. I guess for those who don't haave an Apple phone but I see no point in this. Just saying.
It's because the software allows the apps to be used together in such a way as we cannot currently do with MQ3 software natively.
Some people like that.
Does this work with quest 2?
Yes it's working. But even a 720p video on TH-cam and clock widget starts to slowdown system. It's like there is no optimization.
reality browser or spatial app ?
Thank you Kind Sir! You're Awesome! 😉👌🙋🏻♂️🫶
how i can record the passthrough on video?
meta button (right controller) and trigger to start/stop recording
You put the wrong URL in the description btw
How did u get the Apple TV app on there?
its built in among the other apps and they keep updating
Its actually not bad if you consider its just a better browser .
The build in browser is pretty crap.
But ty they are saying that its in Beta form right now it will get better later........
Welp, AVP is officially dead in the water.
Awesome !
The idea is good but the performance is terrible
How many apps can inhave open?
infinite
@@namelessfrce5842 not infinite. you still have limited ram to work with.
What about motion sickness 🤢🤮
Big miss with this approch is that they don't do advance rendering (background blur, transparency, drop shadow)
Plus, Visuion OS is based on gaze/pinch, no way this app gives you the proper feeling that Apple manage to achieve.
@@OverbiteGames I feel your pain comrade.
@@OverbiteGames A good demo project would be to replicate this using a Varjo and an advanced GUI such as Noesis GUI and check how tide to Apple hardware solution this interface model is (Depth + lidar + 2498 cameras).
Not web based but should be closer because of better native rendering pipeline.
Any good link you suggest on mobile deferred renderer?
lol I get it, but to have something close to Vision Pro for 500 bucks compared to over 3 grand. Is there really an argument.
Hmmmm.... meh. Vision OS is limited. It's deliberately limited to do what Apple reckon they can get the average non-tech person to understand. The look and feel of Vision OS is absolutely not important. Copying the look and feel and then delivering it in a way that only mimicks a subset of Vision OS's features is entirely the wrong way round.
I have the app and is cool but it is only a browser trying to match the look of VisionOS. Just that. I love my Quest 3 but reading people thinking it is the same as AVP is quite funny (and sad too)
This is indeed an AVP fan love letter IMHO
AVP is waaaaaayy overpriced and overhyped imo.
From what I've seen, Quest 3 is a much better deal on almost all fronts - and the few things that AVP has over it are nothing deal-breaking for me.
I wouldn't want Vision OS to replace my Quest 3 software even as it is, and we're supposed to be getting an entire re-factor sometime soonish.
@@Atreyuwu Well, that thing is expensive for sure but it is not too pricey since it has a full M2 computer inside. Every top spec quality product is expensive. Varjo, Xtal, Hololens are more expensive and the are just headsets depending on expensive PCs. I get a Quest user usually won’t need an AVP of course. Apple was very clear about that. AVP is more an experiment and developer kit to build the foundation of the Apple XR ecosystem. Not a consumer product. They have been building it many years using the iPhone to develop the tools and frameworks and now it is time to apply it to a real device.
@@Atreyuwu the avp isnt made for the same uses or audience as the quest 3. not really comparable..
Laggy due to recording?
laggy due to recording + having many apps open + recording through passthrough + using handtracking + prior to performance increases + many many more..
Dude I get it. You want to show what is possible but please stop moving all over the place like you in a formula 1 race. 🤣🤣. 3 minutes in and I'm dizzy
You say the performance is good, but it’s actually terrible, even the hand support is bad!
Why try to copy or emulate something that clearly doesn't work, at least not in the way the eggheads at Apple predicted.
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I can see Apple shutting this app down!
Don't worry it sucks!
PLEASE don't call it spacial computing. Don't let apple win.
Whats wrong with calling it spacial computing?
@@Mr.Meowtain43 apple likes to name things in a wears or forcefully different way. So they can trademark/license the therm or get recognition just by people using it. This one is one of the more obvious. They just didn't want to use the therm VR to describe theire """special""" headset. They need to be different so hard to invent a new word for one that is already widely used and understood.
Know everyone thinks they invented a crazy new thing, which is always the thing with them. They want everybody to think they invented everything. But in most cases they just renamed something that already existed.
@nilox4037 thanks for the information!👍👍
Power of Android 💪💪
If I want an Apple Vision Pro, I'll buy it, but trying to pretend I have it on the Quest 3 is like sticking a Mercedes star on a Ford car and imagining you're driving an S-Class. It's just sad.
No definitely not the same
Fanboys…..
Bots are insane
It's nuts, I'm trying everything to block them
Try keeping your head steady so we can see what you are doing instead of moving it around like some nutter
I've tried recording some videos in a quest3 and it's surprisingly difficult to not be a nutter. just my 2 cents
I have a feeling Apple may tell the maker take it down.
Every time I try to do work on the quest 3 I had to stop after just 15 minutes. The pass through experience is too horrible. Horrendous warping, the unreasonable high noise, low fidelity image. I rather spend 200$ more for decent cameras on board. I hope meta learned this lesson with the next quest.
I guess it's not 200e for cameras (well, to amend the noise level maybe) it's millions and time in r+d to do the magic of translating two feeds recorded not where your eyes are (physically impossible) in a perspective correct output all without a brutally potent chip like apple's
@@RaM-xy8kg you nailed the other point too. Is not just one but two chips. Although I can’t find any specifications about the R1. And and also considering that the dragon chip is a mobile one, things can’t be fix just by slapping a second one on board for the quest. Three thought, by the other hand… 🤔💭
@@RaM-xy8kg From what I've seen from a few TH-camrs, the Vision Pro doesn't do the perspective correction correctly, or at least not as well as the Quest. It would be interesting to see what an uncorrected Quest 3 passthrough would look like.
@@Xenon0000000000001 oh really? if anything I would have expected apple not to launch until they had that nailed down.
btw for an uncorrected view the original quest 1 was a good example. the quality was of course miserable but that sense of looking at the feed of camera just a little bit in front of you was disturbing
I've heard/seen many reports of people saying many things on the AVP are subpar compared to the MQ3.
If you're having passthrough issues, you should make certain your lighting is good and try a full factory reset a few times.
Mine was quite grainy until I did that.
Also, if you've been a user of any of the previous VR headset offerings, the Meta Quest 3 passthrough is WORLDS better.
Both VR/MR can do with higher fidelity, and because it is so close to our eyes and we are trying to emulate somewhat how we see things irl, it won't be 'perfect' until it can match retinal resolution on both fronts - that being said, I absolutely have no issues with MQ3 passthrough in good light!!!
Pretty cool. I cant imagine apple not sueing them for copying their design one to one. But what I am looking forward to is that meta itself will bring more and more of the spacial features that the AVP hast to their system soon.
What did they copy...?
It looks like any other operating system on a cell phone just floating together in the air. Apple Vision Pro uses eye tracking to navigate the apps this one uses a pointer from the fingers. I don't think they used anything special unless you're talking about the bar at the bottom of the screen to move around and in the corner to make screen bigger. Every thing uses that feature. So what did they copy, That no other operating system hasn't already...?
@@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMeit's all PlayStation Vita UI to me, but chances are Apple gave them 3.50 for the nod to go ahead.
for using round icons in a transparent window? oh, what a boundless creative act of god. jobs must be proud. but yeah, they may sue 😅
Its probably also too small for apple to go against it, but you never know. It's Apple and they are known for suing people that copy their design or other stuff they do even if they did not invent it in the first place and took ideas from somewhere else.
Nice idea, but too much lag and bad hand traking!
im sure the hand tracking has improved by now with the new update.
this was literally the only thing good about vision pro compared to quest 3, now vision pro is just useless 🤣🤣🤣
I take they won't even bother with quest 2
they can't. quest 2 doesn't have colour passthrough.
this is the most stupid idea why recreate crap