@@DatBoiChris420 probably due to not only everybody else showing their face, but also bring black. Pretty sure at that time people wouldn't have been so accepting to a black superhero, even if he is saving lives. All about image with the company
I love how she kept talking about black noirs face not being revealed in the show and that the cloning plot is still possible while the editor literally edits in scenes where black noirs face is shown
This video seems like it’s a couple different videos edited together into one with no adjustments. Seems like there’s an intro every couple minutes when there shouldn’t be, or how many times she says Black Noir from the Amazon series The Boys.
I think this is a great example of a ethnic/plot change for a character in media. Theres context behind him being black and just overall being a different character in ways from the comic. The whole "people only like my black when its the suit, not my skin" is something i never expected and thought it was a very well done to drive a point home.
Black Noir will end up being Mother's Milk's brother. I'm guessing their dad was the original BN and then the mantle was given to the brother leaving MM to think they're dead.
Both iterations of homelander had x-ray vision. I find it hard to believe that comic homelander never once got curious and decided to look under his mask
Most of us The Boys fans have seen E3 in Season 3 by now. We know that in the show he's a Black Man(so not a clone of Homelander) and a former member of the team Payback with Soldier Boy. This vid felt like it was made well before season 3 dropped...🙄
Don't forget how he almost singlehandedly took out Billy's entire team. I would have loved to see him face off against Stormfront. Once she saw the face beneath the mask that is. And the way he beat Kimiko was awesome. That had to be the first arse whooping she ever had. I'm glad they didn't go with the comic book version
To be fair, any well-trained supe that gets the drop on the boys could probably take them out. At the time, kimiko was the only one with powers, so their biggest advantages were prep time and surprise
@@harrylane4 struth, kinda liked that, although still seemed like an execution most of the time , pretty much every death is played for laughs right until it’s not, tldr it doesn’t feel like that anymore plus kimiko is Asain John wick with or without powers apparently.
In the comic, Black Noir is the worst character and Homelander is just an egotistical prick. It's Noir that drives Homelander to trying to be the "Homelander" that does all the horrible things that he is seen doing in Billy's photos that he uses as blackmail material to force the Seven into a confrontation with the Boys. Great twist and use of the comic troupe of the evil twin.
Let rephrase I saying if you showed most people fake photos of them committing crimes they won't go out and start to commit those crimes homelander switch to evil was so easy and he didn't rape butcher wife but he did solider boy and starlight he was always evil
I get this feeling Ryan is supposed to be the “clone” of the Homelander, the show changed many things up so I wouldn’t doubt that Ryan would be used as a deterrent instead of Noir. I think they’re just gonna reconnect Soldier Boy and Noir and possibly start an all out brawl between the two.
Noir could still very well be a vought failsafe for homelander. Not sure how the show will pull that off....But I hope they don't change him too much. The comic reveal was freaking awesome. Hopefully the show will match it.
@@Gossettc68 He was always loyal to Edgar so the current status of Vought will shake things up. I'm sure there's a reason Homelander was always more friendly with Noir specifically.
@@SmilingSeraph well in the Diabolical spin-off, Noire helped Homelander cover up the mess that was his first mission. Most of the Diabolical episodes are considered non-canon but I've seen some sources say that that one is an exception.
I personally like everything about Black Noir in the TV show. He is the real master of his job, not a clown like others. However most of the scenes with him are hilarious :D I think it's ironic how Black Noir is like Deadpool on steroids with 1 difference: Deadpool couldn't stop talking, Black Noir doesn't talk at all :D
@djolo5140literally anyone else in The Seven would have gotten one shot by Homelander. Maeve had plot armor and let’s be honest, it didn’t really seem like Homelander was trying to kill her in that fight. Black Noir has the best healing factor of the group and he is absolutely the most skilled. While the rest of them are basically just celebrities, Black Noir is actually a trained killer and he is highly effective. And despite having pretty severe brain damage, he is shown to be pretty intelligent. And Black Noir was the only one in the Seven who wasn’t scared of Homelander. When Homelander asked Noir if he knew that Homelander had a father, Noir didn’t hesitate to answer, despite it being the answer Homelander didn’t want to hear.
It's kind of interesting how they've portrayed Black Noir in the show, cuz back in the flashback he's the black dude and gets his face blown off and freaks out. However, they have constantly mentioned how he has an incredible healing factor in the show. So I wonder if maybe that original Black Noir was Noir no longer and they replaced it with a clone of home lander or a character with that of equal abilities whom they programmed from childhood to wear that mask and become the next Black Noir whom is powerful enough to keep Homelander in check. Maybe that other Black Noir was there to kind of be equal to Soldier Boy. Maybe they keep a Black Noir always powerful enough to keep in check their most powerful Sup???
@@williamshakespeare5703 Did we? I must have forgotten. Nvm my theory then. I can't wait till the big wtf reveal about him though. There's gotta be something more that they have saved about him.
@@BigPhilTheGreat I think your right too,gunna be another twist , probably something with clones or programming… or he’s just that simple, some folks with brain damage will do almost anything perceived authority dictates.
@@BigPhilTheGreat maybe after he took all that damage Stan Edgar had them perfom more experiments on him that gave him his healing ability but he kept the scars he had before kinda like with deadpool.
Just because that's what he is in the comics doesn't mean its gonna be like that in the show. They've already changed a lot. There was more than 1 Soldier Boy in the comics but do you see that in the show?
I assume since they have changged who Noir is, instead of being Homelanders clone like the comics, i assume it will either be a juiced up Butcher or Homelanders son that kills Homelander and the 7
Anyone notice in S3E03 in the flashback, Grace calls everyone by their full name but refers to Black Noir as just Noir. Usually there aren't mistakes so back in the day was he just "Noir" and if so, what's that mean for his development in the series.
It would be awesome if every time black noir appears maskless in the past, it’s a deferent person of a different race. Kind of like saying, no one ever really knows exactly what he looks like.
That would be sick. Like every time we see him, it's a different person telling the story so we get different versions of what he looks like, paying off with the ultimate reveal that he is a clone. Would be the perfect way to subvert the readers of the books knowledge of the source material.
Black Noir is pretty much is like a last resort if all else goes wrong with Homelander but I do like how he was supposed to be mysterious in the show but then gave him a little orgin story in one of the flashbacks I do enjoy the show and the parody it has on the super hero genre
Why would he be in the floor against the wall laughing… if laughing maybe have him standing or walking by.. he sat and listened to the whole thing… that was a sad emotion he was showing
The way the video is edited is like they’re mocking the narrator Every time she talks about how Black Noir's face is never seen they show an image of his face
I got a feeling that Black Noir is going to be a bigger part of this season. Them showing his little history where he's talking about not wearing the mask and doing more for the black community. Being that A-train is faking to be more concerned about the black community. A-train is just about himself, he will probably refect and remember how he wanted to be a hero and unmasked. Im sure he knew Stan Edgar was just bullshiting him about needing him to keep the mask on.Black Noir will be a game changer this season. One way or another, I hope anyways.
Def my favorite on the show, glad he a brotha and not a clone. I knew he was a brotha last season when his mask lifted a little. lander is getting on my last nerve.
The series is soooooo different from the comic books. If you read the comic books, you'd understand why the mask was VITAL for Black Noir. The comic book plot twist is pure genius.
@@melsy9355 homelander wasn’t supposed to know that black noir was his clone, so the mask kept his identity hidden until he needed to know in the comics. At least this is how i understood it.
Top of my head moments of Black Noir from the boys tv show is when homelander run down the other heroes not doing their jobs and when he got to Noir he just said great work and the assistant bit where he just pulled up a chair till the assistant found where butcher was, in the comics Black Noir is a utter scumbag
And a complete nutjob. I'm glad they changed it. The comic book version of Black Noir ATE children alive. This version of Black Noir honestly loves kids. It's one of the things that makes him human+ adorable.
"Allergic to peanuts".... *feeds almondjoy* Yea imma stop you right there buddy. As someone who gets a reaction from smelling peanuts... that's an almond....
I think my brain went numb from all the repeatng of the same things over and over, but was there any explination for the scene of the african actor playing him in the live action show talking and getting a mangled face? Because it kept showing the footage but seemed to avoid talking about it, also i think she even implied that in the show he could still be a clone of homelander at one point. Is this new footage from season 3 that was reveiled after the audio was recorded? Or did the editor not read the script of the vid at all? Or did i miss something? This all seemed quite odd!
I wonder if he actually died after the Nicaragua event and Vought got another one of their creations to take over his character, mask on 24/7, and keep quiet to not raise any suspicion.
I know it isn't a reference, but Noir wanting to show his face kinda reminds me of Pedro Pascal's insistence that he show his on the set of the Mandalorian.
I love how the narrator says like four times that we don't get to see his face or hear his voice in Amazon's The Boys. At least once she said this WHILE HIS FACE IS ON SCREEN. Wtf people.
They're going to use the "secret weapon" on Homelander to stop him, along with other supes and The Boys. There's going to be side story with Black Noir that will be a twist and impactful to the main story.
Got a feeling that “secret weapon” is gonna get killed by the end of the season. Not a chance are they taking down homelander any time soon. if anything Ryan will be the one to defeat him with some help from the boys with Temp V or even real V if the show goes that route
Black Noir is allergic to 'tree' nuts, like Almonds in Almond Joys, not peanuts, which are a legume, and not in Almond Joy. How pedantic can I get? Otherwise, enjoyed the video :D
@@sliccthedestroyer1881 I do agree the TV version is better than the comics. However, the comic version isn't boring. And the clone part was a good twist to the story when it first came out.
My issue with this video is you're drawing from the comic, the cartoon and the live action show. The Comic IS the Comic, it's its own thing. The cartoon draws from the comic, but is its own thing. And the live action show draws from the comic but is its own thing. You're trying to combine all 3, which doesn't work. They're ALL their own things.
Fun fact, black noir was even compared to slasher film villains like Jason Voorhees and Michael Myers. He was even compared to the marvel anti hero Deadpool (for some reason).
Now that would be a great twist, and I would agree with you except ... we see part of his face when Maeve lifts his mask to force-feed him an Almond Joy. In that shot, you can see burn scars that look pretty close to the chemical burns we see on his face in the Mallory flashback. That makes the additional burns inflicted by the terrorist he beheaded in season 2 a grim easter egg joke set up as a forward reference and paid off via a flashback. A meta joke would be that it was foreshadowing. I'm sure whoever wrote that is pretty proud of themselves for pulling that off, understandably so. Still I think you and most of us don't trust what they're showing us entirely.
@@XMachete a "good twist" would be that the noir of the flashback and peanut situation is the same and that one died and was replaced with the clon of homelander. but i dont think thats going to happen
@@BinahAtala so the thing about a good twist is, it can't just be unexpected, it has to be that in retrospect there were clues and setup to support it that were artfully hidden. If Black Noir died, I guess the support we would have for it is that he died from the tree nut allergy, allowing his replacement by a Homelander clone. Now, the issue there is while that would bring it closer in line with the comics, the character's arc can't be the same: he hasn't been there alongside HL unable to kill him, he didn't commit atrocities pretending to be HL, and he hasn't proven himself any sort of unstable deviant. I guess they could sell he's been insane or mentally unstable in isolation and he could be the reason why Mr. Edgar isn't at all threatened by HL (I'm aware the unflappability is sourced from the source's Stillwell character for a different reason). It'd be a deft piece of misdirection, you're correct. I guess we'll see what they have in store for us.
@@XMachete yeah that’s true to put the clone now as Black Noir would be in line with the comic, but weird in the tv series context, because everything else leading to the clone is not there. I hope they get creative about Black Noir and the ending of the boys.
@@Channel-23s having never read the comics, just seen what they contain from TH-cam, I think the change was nice. But again, I never read the comics. Plus, I’m black so I like seeing black characters. Especially nuanced ones.
I had a Theory that Black Noir in the show is Butchers brother Lenny since his mom said he was the quiet calm type that calms Billy and that maybe he didn't actually die but was taken by Vault and turned him to Black Nior with Noir having no memory of his past somehow but Idk... probably way off... but cool Idea 🤔
Im honestly SO glad they didn’t do the clone reveal, because in the comics when it was revealed the black noir raped butchers wife it made the whole rivalry between butcher and homelander and butchers desire to get revenge on homelander completely pointless and when butcher does kill noir it is super anti climactic because it was built up from the beginning that homelander was the one who did it and only for homelander who was the main villain of the comic for him to get killed off panel, while black noir who was out of knowhere suddenly the big bad of the comic got the satisfying and brutal death that homelander was meant to have. Thats why im glad the show took a new direction and we will most likely get the final confrontation between homelander and butcher we didn’t get in the comic
So like, in the comics does homelander not have X-ray vision? Could he not just see through his mask and realize what’s going on? And if he couldn’t due to Noirs having zinc in the mask, then how could black noir see in general? Noir hiding his face from homelander seems like something he’d catch
They couldn't do the homelands clone thing in the show because it was revealed very early homelander could see through anything. Meaning he would have seen a clone of himself
I mean they've essentially thrown the comics out the window, mostly everything is new or re-imagined. It would be impossible now to use Black Noir's comic story, given they've shown parts of his face and body. Clearly not a Homelander clone. Only way they could reverse this would be to have Black Noir come back, and it be a secret that the original Noir died from his tree nut allergy and has been replaced with a clone of Homelander. Could be a plan by Stan Edgar. Homelander thinks he got rid of him, but really Edgar is still pulling the strings.
My favorite character on the Boys! I knew he was Blaq when he lifted the bottom of his mask last season. Glad they made him a brother instead of douchelanders clone
What a waste of one of the best twists from the books. Spoiler: Black Noir was behind most of the horrible things Homelander believed he did. He was driven crazy by these action. Now Noir is a bad joke of a character who was scared because he didn't want to wear his helmet.
KEY TO THE WHOLE BOOK. That they destroyed it so people who were not even fans could explore their political racism is a disgrace. Destroyed so people who are not even fans can live out their Queen Kaleesi fetish and see themselves as PET WRANGLERS of another people they hold in permanent contempt. Same people who said they could not figure out how to get an ID. Same people who said, 'When they learn how to own guns.. the laws will have to change.'
If in the show Black Niors twist is not being a Homelander clone I wonder wtf they're going to do with him. Seeing how he's a black guy either he's something completely new ( maybe a super clone of Edgar ) or that was a swerve somehow.
So far the Amazon series has deviated from the comic book. Black Noir is a clone of Homelander and is behind nearly all of Homelanders problems. Sadly they went a completely different route with the Amazon series.
Well he certainly isn't batman. He has neither the intelligence, agency, or paranoid planning skills of the Dark Knight. All he has is the stealth and combat. He is the mindless soldier type, not the world's greatest detective.
What I don’t understand is if in the show an explosion made him a vegetable, and he’s not a clone of homelander , how does he survive worse stuff after?
@@thatboidevYT yeah but he had powers already before that , and surely the v would heal him if it gave him powers? wasn’t A trains whole arch about how v just ruins already grown supes? Or they’d just feed it to whoever , guess maybe soldier boy is going to change that because he got a power up, but still doesn’t really make sense, unless they have straight up mind control ..
@@fioafionawright8604 it explains why black noir cant speak ..and theres been soldiers whos survived chemical bomb explosions and fires....and black noir is a superpowered being so he can definately survive blasts like that and we seen hes done it before and he even when billy used a sword against him it didnt even phase him
does anyone find it odd that they felt it necessary to race change "black noir" into a black guy?.... i swear, these people think they are fighting discrimination.. but the undertones say an entirely different thing to anyone paying attention..
I'm not familiar with any of the source material so I wasn't aware of the clone thing. Watching this, I'm thinking they could still do it by killing off this B.N. & secretly replacing him with the clone.
In the show the real black noir could have died after the peanut allergy incident and they put a homelander clone in Black noirs suit. And it could very well be the child that soldier boy was referring to who knows just the thought...
I think it enhances the mystery of the character quite a bit honestly. Most people that have looked into the series probably expect him to be this clone that’s a contingency plan. Showing he isn’t a clone of homelander let’s us question what his motivations are, where they are gonna take his character, as well as his entire backstory. Opens up many more directions to take the character
If you're talking about live action Black Noir, then wouldn't you mean hearing him talk takes away the mystique because part of his character is being silent? We saw his face in the flashback, sure, but we still don't know who that person is or where he came from (his origin). We just know he looks like a Black male.
Gotta be honest, I think they show runners ruined the character of Black Noir, at least as compared to the comic book origins/Cannon. He was a bit of a side character in the Comics, sure, but he absolutely had some of the biggest and most impact full scenes... Especially the "big reveal". There is literally nothing interesting or important about that character now (in the TV Show). Black Noir has no "big reveal" now. He's just... there. Boring.
I couldn’t disagree more tbh. This big reveal in the comics was a great way to show that Homelanders downfall into madness was something that he was manipulated into and that he could have been the ideal superhero that he wanted to be in the first place. The show has taken Homelanders character a very different direction choosing to dive into dissecting Homelanders character and motivations/why he’s the way he is. If that were all ripped away at the end of the series and we find out the reveal that was in the comics it would be a huge cheat to what we’ve been shown so far. Plus it gives opportunity to make black noir his own character with his own motivations, backstory, and goals. For all we know he still could be a contingency plan against Homelander he’s probably the most powerful supe aside from homelander that we’ve seen so I don’t see why that couldn’t still be the case.
@@burrito_fighter6699 Because as things stand now (of course they could still end up changing everything) his backstory is incredibly boring. He was just a random, narcissistic supe who got disfigured? All right. It's something. But it's got nothing on the plot twist form the comics. That was fucking amazing. It also kills a lot of the mystery about him. I really wish they hadn't show that flashback scene. Oh well, we'll see where they go from here.
Black Noir is possibly one of the best members of the seven, he didnt seem emotionally damaged and in the flash back he seemed to be a good guy
Not emotionally damaged but he was clearly a diva of sorts because he wanted his face to be shown for no reason
@@DatBoiChris420 Well he is the only one that wears a mask. Maybe he wanted to show his face like everyone else
@@DatBoiChris420 probably due to not only everybody else showing their face, but also bring black. Pretty sure at that time people wouldn't have been so accepting to a black superhero, even if he is saving lives. All about image with the company
@@sevenwhatuknow That seems to be it partially, I think the second reason being after his accident he no longer wanted to take the mask off
@@jairusjackson7799 I think they were talking about before he got injured. He was saying that he didn't want to wear it already
I love how she kept talking about black noirs face not being revealed in the show and that the cloning plot is still possible while the editor literally edits in scenes where black noirs face is shown
Yea seriously what was that?
The show and comic books are 2 different universe
@@Bsfnelz20 I mean…yea but why did the narrator say we haven’t seen his face while showing a clip of his face??
I still feel like with the death of show Noir we could see “ him” return with some clever writing as clonelander
This video seems like it’s a couple different videos edited together into one with no adjustments. Seems like there’s an intro every couple minutes when there shouldn’t be, or how many times she says Black Noir from the Amazon series The Boys.
Black noire is a Batman/Deadpool/snake eyes hybrid . Stealth great-in hand to hand combat. Very tactical and crazy healing factor
Interesting way of putting it
@@damianprock1650 he does his research very militant and tactical
@@certifiedchaos4643 perhaps so
Lol
@@damianmoran1512 IKR
I think this is a great example of a ethnic/plot change for a character in media. Theres context behind him being black and just overall being a different character in ways from the comic. The whole "people only like my black when its the suit, not my skin" is something i never expected and thought it was a very well done to drive a point home.
Cringe comment
Last last sentence anyways
@@jeffbenzos6344 Okay Jeff Benzos
@@jeffbenzos6344 No surprise that's the part you found cringe...
@@jeffbenzos6344 cringe woke guy thinking something is cringe is cringe
In the source material he was a clone of Homer lander and Amazon would never show this he even ate a baby 💀
That's one of the things the video mentions within the first 2-3 mins
Idk why but my immediate thought was a gamer from Mars video on black noir that reads " ate a baby "
Look
Black Noir is Snake-eyes from G.I. Joe All Sup'd up
If Superman had a baby with a female Ninja Black Noir would be their child 🤭
Hold on til the 2nd reveal
@@wildcard5269 you don't say? Black Noir is Snake eyes, and homelander is superman?
That's Incredible 😀🤦♂️
Black Noir will end up being Mother's Milk's brother. I'm guessing their dad was the original BN and then the mantle was given to the brother leaving MM to think they're dead.
That's a good theory..
I LIKE THAT !!! good theory indeed
@@wakawakaxoxo Likewise, that would definitely be a good twist.
Actually this theory makes sense, so black noir wants to revenge for his mother/father deaths but soldier boy sliced his head in flashback
Maybe, but they could use the fact that instead of killing MM he hit his arm.
Both iterations of homelander had x-ray vision. I find it hard to believe that comic homelander never once got curious and decided to look under his mask
I would love for black noir to be Stan Edgar’s “best product”
This video could be like 5-10 minutes. Whoever writes the scripts loves repeating things 3-4 times
Most of us The Boys fans have seen E3 in Season 3 by now. We know that in the show he's a Black Man(so not a clone of Homelander) and a former member of the team Payback with Soldier Boy. This vid felt like it was made well before season 3 dropped...🙄
Ikr? And they even showed clips from episode 3 where they clearly show BN's face.
Also Terror is in the show. Season 1 I believe
They describe in my opinion a better more creepy version of Black Noir. Just to reveal the TV show pussing out.
@nexus169 they already moved away from the source material in many regards. Don't be a dope
I agree and I was about to type up the same thing
Don't forget how he almost singlehandedly took out Billy's entire team. I would have loved to see him face off against Stormfront. Once she saw the face beneath the mask that is. And the way he beat Kimiko was awesome. That had to be the first arse whooping she ever had.
I'm glad they didn't go with the comic book version
If they went with the version of Black Noir from the graphic novel, it would be a curbstomp for Black Noir.
Threw me off.
To be fair, any well-trained supe that gets the drop on the boys could probably take them out. At the time, kimiko was the only one with powers, so their biggest advantages were prep time and surprise
@@harrylane4 struth, kinda liked that, although still seemed like an execution most of the time , pretty much every death is played for laughs right until it’s not, tldr it doesn’t feel like that anymore plus kimiko is Asain John wick with or without powers apparently.
In the comic, Black Noir is the worst character and Homelander is just an egotistical prick. It's Noir that drives Homelander to trying to be the "Homelander" that does all the horrible things that he is seen doing in Billy's photos that he uses as blackmail material to force the Seven into a confrontation with the Boys. Great twist and use of the comic troupe of the evil twin.
True but homelander believed he did it and started doing evil shit himself
@@donnellebarfield3964 That's exactly what Paul just said...
Eviler twin
Let rephrase I saying if you showed most people fake photos of them committing crimes they won't go out and start to commit those crimes homelander switch to evil was so easy and he didn't rape butcher wife but he did solider boy and starlight he was always evil
@@aarav7851 evil twin v eviler twin fall of the 7
He reminds me more of the character Snake eyes from Gi Joe, if Snake eyes had the healing factor
True, also that nazi ninja guy from Hellboy.
No he didn’t he a normal human lol
Snake Eyes/ Deadpool
Black noir like snake 🐍 eyes 👀 yep
I get this feeling Ryan is supposed to be the “clone” of the Homelander, the show changed many things up so I wouldn’t doubt that Ryan would be used as a deterrent instead of Noir.
I think they’re just gonna reconnect Soldier Boy and Noir and possibly start an all out brawl between the two.
That would amazing
Noir could still very well be a vought failsafe for homelander. Not sure how the show will pull that off....But I hope they don't change him too much. The comic reveal was freaking awesome. Hopefully the show will match it.
@@Gossettc68 He was always loyal to Edgar so the current status of Vought will shake things up. I'm sure there's a reason Homelander was always more friendly with Noir specifically.
@@SmilingSeraph well in the Diabolical spin-off, Noire helped Homelander cover up the mess that was his first mission. Most of the Diabolical episodes are considered non-canon but I've seen some sources say that that one is an exception.
Nah. It's going to be a suped up Billy vs Homelander for sure.
I personally like everything about Black Noir in the TV show. He is the real master of his job, not a clown like others. However most of the scenes with him are hilarious :D
I think it's ironic how Black Noir is like Deadpool on steroids with 1 difference: Deadpool couldn't stop talking, Black Noir doesn't talk at all :D
@djo lo anyone could get one shotted by homelander under the same circumstances.
Btw he don't talk cause Vought and the supporters like it that way. He has emotions. But his "personality" is what keeps his character relevant
@djolo5140 This makes no sense. Homelander one-shots everyone except Soldier Boy. You sound low IQ.
@djolo5140literally anyone else in The Seven would have gotten one shot by Homelander. Maeve had plot armor and let’s be honest, it didn’t really seem like Homelander was trying to kill her in that fight.
Black Noir has the best healing factor of the group and he is absolutely the most skilled. While the rest of them are basically just celebrities, Black Noir is actually a trained killer and he is highly effective. And despite having pretty severe brain damage, he is shown to be pretty intelligent. And Black Noir was the only one in the Seven who wasn’t scared of Homelander. When Homelander asked Noir if he knew that Homelander had a father, Noir didn’t hesitate to answer, despite it being the answer Homelander didn’t want to hear.
Did anyone feel like this went in circles?
Yup
Exactly
It's kind of interesting how they've portrayed Black Noir in the show, cuz back in the flashback he's the black dude and gets his face blown off and freaks out. However, they have constantly mentioned how he has an incredible healing factor in the show. So I wonder if maybe that original Black Noir was Noir no longer and they replaced it with a clone of home lander or a character with that of equal abilities whom they programmed from childhood to wear that mask and become the next Black Noir whom is powerful enough to keep Homelander in check. Maybe that other Black Noir was there to kind of be equal to Soldier Boy. Maybe they keep a Black Noir always powerful enough to keep in check their most powerful Sup???
We see that he is black and has some scars
@@williamshakespeare5703 Did we? I must have forgotten. Nvm my theory then. I can't wait till the big wtf reveal about him though. There's gotta be something more that they have saved about him.
@@BigPhilTheGreat yup I think the second season shows it when queen Maeve shoves a almond joy in his mouth
@@BigPhilTheGreat I think your right too,gunna be another twist , probably something with clones or programming… or he’s just that simple, some folks with brain damage will do almost anything perceived authority dictates.
@@BigPhilTheGreat maybe after he took all that damage Stan Edgar had them perfom more experiments on him that gave him his healing ability but he kept the scars he had before kinda like with deadpool.
If Black Noir is a clone of Homelander, what makes you think that there is only one?
Just because that's what he is in the comics doesn't mean its gonna be like that in the show. They've already changed a lot. There was more than 1 Soldier Boy in the comics but do you see that in the show?
@Cascade I'm glad they did
He's not. They changed all of that.
There can still be multiple black Noirs after they killed him and took Soulja Boy
@@johnconnor2753 that makes no sense
I assume since they have changged who Noir is, instead of being Homelanders clone like the comics, i assume it will either be a juiced up Butcher or Homelanders son that kills Homelander and the 7
20 minutes of repeating the same information that could've been done in 5 or less. Well done.
Anyone notice in S3E03 in the flashback, Grace calls everyone by their full name but refers to Black Noir as just Noir. Usually there aren't mistakes so back in the day was he just "Noir" and if so, what's that mean for his development in the series.
Because calling him black would be borderline racist
A lot of ppl have called black noir just noir. That had nothing to do w it.
I noticed that, too.
@@kihaakui792 I guess we'll see if it's an Easter egg.
They rebrand superheroes when something goes bad for their image. He was called Noir back then and later known as Black Noir
It would be awesome if every time black noir appears maskless in the past, it’s a deferent person of a different race. Kind of like saying, no one ever really knows exactly what he looks like.
That would be sick. Like every time we see him, it's a different person telling the story so we get different versions of what he looks like, paying off with the ultimate reveal that he is a clone. Would be the perfect way to subvert the readers of the books knowledge of the source material.
naw he's good just the way he is 💪🏾
@@kevo288 nah I defo think the above theory makes it far more exciting
@The menace if you want the story less exciting, sure
@The menace that makes no sense whatsoever, what on earth are you waffling about
Black Noir is pretty much is like a last resort if all else goes wrong with Homelander but I do like how he was supposed to be mysterious in the show but then gave him a little orgin story in one of the flashbacks I do enjoy the show and the parody it has on the super hero genre
thats what he was in the comics. TV Black Noir is not the same at all
Biggest error, black noir does not look like he is crying but rather laughing once it is exposed that compound V is a thing
Nah he was definitely crying
Lol nah he was crying
Why would he be laughing
@@titel9870 because he's insane
Why would he be in the floor against the wall laughing… if laughing maybe have him standing or walking by.. he sat and listened to the whole thing… that was a sad emotion he was showing
The way the video is edited is like they’re mocking the narrator
Every time she talks about how Black Noir's face is never seen they show an image of his face
The Amazon show version is so much better than his comic book counterpart. The writers did a great job with his character.
I never noticed but Black Noir is kind of a superpowered Snake Eyes, too.
Thank God for that red circle in the thumbnail! Would've totally missed that dude had it not been there!
I got a feeling that Black Noir is going to be a bigger part of this season. Them showing his little history where he's talking about not wearing the mask and doing more for the black community. Being that A-train is faking to be more concerned about the black community. A-train is just about himself, he will probably refect and remember how he wanted to be a hero and unmasked. Im sure he knew Stan Edgar was just bullshiting him about needing him to keep the mask on.Black Noir will be a game changer this season. One way or another, I hope anyways.
He wasn't BS him about keeping the mask on
Def my favorite on the show, glad he a brotha and not a clone. I knew he was a brotha last season when his mask lifted a little. lander is getting on my last nerve.
Great video. "The Boys" is a great property and the TV series is amazing and I like how the show does it's on thing but is still great
The series is soooooo different from the comic books. If you read the comic books, you'd understand why the mask was VITAL for Black Noir. The comic book plot twist is pure genius.
Yep
I agree. They just ruined that.
Can you explain please?
@@melsy9355 homelander wasn’t supposed to know that black noir was his clone, so the mask kept his identity hidden until he needed to know in the comics. At least this is how i understood it.
Wrong definitely not pure genius it’s lame
This video feels like it was made by an AI
The comic book version is better.....
The comic book version is WAY better than the amazon effort
we don’t know who’s behind it in the present tho cus isn’t he supposed to be homelanders clone? he wasn’t around that time soooo
Queen Moavey. Nice delivery. Obviously hasn't seen the show, just reading whatever is given to the narrator.
Top of my head moments of Black Noir from the boys tv show is when homelander run down the other heroes not doing their jobs and when he got to Noir he just said great work and the assistant bit where he just pulled up a chair till the assistant found where butcher was, in the comics Black Noir is a utter scumbag
And a complete nutjob. I'm glad they changed it.
The comic book version of Black Noir ATE children alive.
This version of Black Noir honestly loves kids. It's one of the things that makes him human+ adorable.
"Allergic to peanuts".... *feeds almondjoy*
Yea imma stop you right there buddy. As someone who gets a reaction from smelling peanuts... that's an almond....
its weird to imply a possibility of seeing the comics origin when weve already confirmed black noir is black
I've been alright with most of the departures from the comics. But I don't think I like this twist. But all in all. Great show.
That would be such a mindfuck
I wasn't feeling the twist either. I guess they gotta keep the comic fans on their toes on how they are going to defeat Homelander.
@@willier47 Black Noir might be a clone? Or one of those legacy heroes like Soldier Boy?
I hated this reveal.
I love Black Noir. He’s my second fave character after Homelander in the entire show.
I think my brain went numb from all the repeatng of the same things over and over, but was there any explination for the scene of the african actor playing him in the live action show talking and getting a mangled face? Because it kept showing the footage but seemed to avoid talking about it, also i think she even implied that in the show he could still be a clone of homelander at one point. Is this new footage from season 3 that was reveiled after the audio was recorded? Or did the editor not read the script of the vid at all? Or did i miss something? This all seemed quite odd!
Black Noir is literally Snake Eyes with some added super enhancements. Sheesh....
Yeah this comic is a reference to other properties..
I wonder if he actually died after the Nicaragua event and Vought got another one of their creations to take over his character, mask on 24/7, and keep quiet to not raise any suspicion.
I know it isn't a reference, but Noir wanting to show his face kinda reminds me of Pedro Pascal's insistence that he show his on the set of the Mandalorian.
He’s closer to snake eyes from G.I. Joe than anything I’ve seen thus far.
I love how the narrator says like four times that we don't get to see his face or hear his voice in Amazon's The Boys. At least once she said this WHILE HIS FACE IS ON SCREEN. Wtf people.
It seem like they needed a contingency plan for BN lol
Dc comics Batman + G.I. Joe’s snake eyes = Black Noir.
Throw in some healing factor and super strength and voilà!
@@JaguarBST yes that too !
They're going to use the "secret weapon" on Homelander to stop him, along with other supes and The Boys. There's going to be side story with Black Noir that will be a twist and impactful to the main story.
Got a feeling that “secret weapon” is gonna get killed by the end of the season. Not a chance are they taking down homelander any time soon. if anything Ryan will be the one to defeat him with some help from the boys with Temp V or even real V if the show goes that route
@@burrito_fighter6699 You're probably right. I would rather not see anymore of Ryan's character but more of Black Noir.
@@burrito_fighter6699 Nope
it seems like they merged comic book black noir with comic book homelander to create the tv counter part. i like this tv version much better tbh
How she keeps saying no one know's his Identity but clearly showing his face
Black Noir is allergic to 'tree' nuts, like Almonds in Almond Joys, not peanuts, which are a legume, and not in Almond Joy. How pedantic can I get? Otherwise, enjoyed the video :D
Oh I sure a lot more you come across as know it all.
these videos feel like the essays i used to write in high school it goes on for to long and jumps way to much
Black Noir not being a clone of Homelander makes things more interesting.
no
@@dataphoenix8004 it does, Black noir in the comics is boring asf. The twist only made him worse.
yeah fact
@@sliccthedestroyer1881 I do agree the TV version is better than the comics. However, the comic version isn't boring. And the clone part was a good twist to the story when it first came out.
@@tiredox3788 no it wasn’t
Love this voiceover artist 💯
My issue with this video is you're drawing from the comic, the cartoon and the live action show.
The Comic IS the Comic, it's its own thing.
The cartoon draws from the comic, but is its own thing.
And the live action show draws from the comic but is its own thing.
You're trying to combine all 3, which doesn't work. They're ALL their own things.
Yeah was super confusing.... wish they would have done them all seperate
Fun fact, black noir was even compared to slasher film villains like Jason Voorhees and Michael Myers. He was even compared to the marvel anti hero Deadpool (for some reason).
I feel like the black noir we have now isn’t the same one they showed in the flashback
Now that would be a great twist, and I would agree with you except ... we see part of his face when Maeve lifts his mask to force-feed him an Almond Joy. In that shot, you can see burn scars that look pretty close to the chemical burns we see on his face in the Mallory flashback. That makes the additional burns inflicted by the terrorist he beheaded in season 2 a grim easter egg joke set up as a forward reference and paid off via a flashback. A meta joke would be that it was foreshadowing. I'm sure whoever wrote that is pretty proud of themselves for pulling that off, understandably so.
Still I think you and most of us don't trust what they're showing us entirely.
@@XMachete a "good twist" would be that the noir of the flashback and peanut situation is the same and that one died and was replaced with the clon of homelander. but i dont think thats going to happen
@@BinahAtala so the thing about a good twist is, it can't just be unexpected, it has to be that in retrospect there were clues and setup to support it that were artfully hidden. If Black Noir died, I guess the support we would have for it is that he died from the tree nut allergy, allowing his replacement by a Homelander clone. Now, the issue there is while that would bring it closer in line with the comics, the character's arc can't be the same: he hasn't been there alongside HL unable to kill him, he didn't commit atrocities pretending to be HL, and he hasn't proven himself any sort of unstable deviant. I guess they could sell he's been insane or mentally unstable in isolation and he could be the reason why Mr. Edgar isn't at all threatened by HL (I'm aware the unflappability is sourced from the source's Stillwell character for a different reason). It'd be a deft piece of misdirection, you're correct. I guess we'll see what they have in store for us.
@@XMachete yeah that’s true to put the clone now as Black Noir would be in line with the comic, but weird in the tv series context, because everything else leading to the clone is not there. I hope they get creative about Black Noir and the ending of the boys.
@@BinahAtala Homelander clone is trash writing. Glad they didn't do it
Where is the animated clips from, a series?
How hard is it to not make a spoiler thumbnail?
exactly this is so obnoxious
Great content but I get real History Channel vibes with the delivery of information lol
So Amazon version of Black Noir isn't a clone of Homelander
No he's black so
It doesn’t appear that he is. The Amazon version has noir as a black man.
@@PourItIn_MyTrophies true even storefront is a woman that change was I guess nice
@@Channel-23s having never read the comics, just seen what they contain from TH-cam, I think the change was nice. But again, I never read the comics. Plus, I’m black so I like seeing black characters. Especially nuanced ones.
It is possible that the black Noir in the flashback isn't the same black noir currently.
I had a Theory that Black Noir in the show is Butchers brother Lenny since his mom said he was the quiet calm type that calms Billy and that maybe he didn't actually die but was taken by Vault and turned him to Black Nior with Noir having no memory of his past somehow but Idk... probably way off... but cool Idea 🤔
Have you seen season 3 at all?
So an adopted brother?
Bruh but butcher and his family aren't Afro-Americans how it will possible?
Im honestly SO glad they didn’t do the clone reveal, because in the comics when it was revealed the black noir raped butchers wife it made the whole rivalry between butcher and homelander and butchers desire to get revenge on homelander completely pointless and when butcher does kill noir it is super anti climactic because it was built up from the beginning that homelander was the one who did it and only for homelander who was the main villain of the comic for him to get killed off panel, while black noir who was out of knowhere suddenly the big bad of the comic got the satisfying and brutal death that homelander was meant to have. Thats why im glad the show took a new direction and we will most likely get the final confrontation between homelander and butcher we didn’t get in the comic
Tbh it would've been better if black noir was homelanders clone tbh it would have been more better and cooler
God damn this is like a crack addiction I need another episode I need itttt
So like, in the comics does homelander not have X-ray vision? Could he not just see through his mask and realize what’s going on? And if he couldn’t due to Noirs having zinc in the mask, then how could black noir see in general? Noir hiding his face from homelander seems like something he’d catch
They couldn't do the homelands clone thing in the show because it was revealed very early homelander could see through anything. Meaning he would have seen a clone of himself
Noir is going to save Homelander from soldier boy at the end of s3, you heard it here first.
Either him or the head popper
Just a tiny bit wrong lmao
@@lucasjdev had to shoot my shot haha. Never would have thought noir would go out like that. Kind of makes me think he’s not dead.
He's not only a foil, but he's a satire of a foil.
Black Noir’s powers remind me of deadpool/Balder the god who felt no pain .
Great job on this video breakdown of the character.
He is more like Snake-Eyes than Batman
I remember the boss man telling homelander you are not our biggest asset 😐🤭
He's more like SNAKE EYES from G.I. JOE than BATMAN!
I mean they've essentially thrown the comics out the window, mostly everything is new or re-imagined. It would be impossible now to use Black Noir's comic story, given they've shown parts of his face and body. Clearly not a Homelander clone. Only way they could reverse this would be to have Black Noir come back, and it be a secret that the original Noir died from his tree nut allergy and has been replaced with a clone of Homelander. Could be a plan by Stan Edgar. Homelander thinks he got rid of him, but really Edgar is still pulling the strings.
My favorite character on the Boys! I knew he was Blaq when he lifted the bottom of his mask last season. Glad they made him a brother instead of douchelanders clone
😭😭😭😭⚰💀🥀
Tokenized characters are the worst and I’m black
Cause your token don’t mean all black characters are token
@@tagz3924 just cause your token
Love how his name literally is "The black nigga"
What a waste of one of the best twists from the books.
Spoiler: Black Noir was behind most of the horrible things Homelander believed he did. He was driven crazy by these action. Now Noir is a bad joke of a character who was scared because he didn't want to wear his helmet.
That twist was goofy as fuck
Tru same with the deep...a goofy that has sex whit fish.
KEY TO THE WHOLE BOOK.
That they destroyed it so people who were not even fans could explore their political racism is a disgrace.
Destroyed so people who are not even fans can live out their Queen Kaleesi fetish and see themselves as PET WRANGLERS of another people they hold in permanent contempt. Same people who said they could not figure out how to get an ID. Same people who said, 'When they learn how to own guns.. the laws will have to change.'
@@Gahmane which one the comic or the horrible @#$ Amazon the boys show which is not worth wasting my money ?🤦🏾♂️🤔
Not waisted yet, there’s a huge gap from his initial reveal til now, which was supposed to be a twist for comic readers.
Black Noir is suffering from some type of brain damage rendered from the battle with Soldier Boy.
I thought he was laughing when he was sitting down… n I think they gonna use homelander son to stop homelander instead of black noir
The Boy’s Version of Batman but if he was A Super Weapon
We know that none of this applies to the show though. Black Noir in the show is black, so definitely not a clone of Homelander.
I needed this video. I like the show and no nothing about the comics.
Spoiler in the Thumb? WTF!
For real wtf smh
If in the show Black Niors twist is not being a Homelander clone I wonder wtf they're going to do with him. Seeing how he's a black guy either he's something completely new ( maybe a super clone of Edgar ) or that was a swerve somehow.
So far the Amazon series has deviated from the comic book. Black Noir is a clone of Homelander and is behind nearly all of Homelanders problems. Sadly they went a completely different route with the Amazon series.
So you want something EXACTLY like the thing you already read?
Name me ONE piece of adapted fiction that is totally faithful to the source material
Wait, he cannot fly in either version. The only same power he has as homelander is strength
Well he certainly isn't batman. He has neither the intelligence, agency, or paranoid planning skills of the Dark Knight. All he has is the stealth and combat. He is the mindless soldier type, not the world's greatest detective.
Well after episode 7 seeing how weak Black Noir is compared to just soldier who was weaker than homelander, your whole video is bunk.
What I don’t understand is if in the show an explosion made him a vegetable, and he’s not a clone of homelander , how does he survive worse stuff after?
I guess he got compound V after his face got messed up
@@thatboidevYT yeah but he had powers already before that , and surely the v would heal him if it gave him powers? wasn’t A trains whole arch about how v just ruins already grown supes? Or they’d just feed it to whoever , guess maybe soldier boy is going to change that because he got a power up, but still doesn’t really make sense, unless they have straight up mind control ..
@@fioafionawright8604 yeah it's kinda confusing hopefully they clear that up or something
@donn benjamin nah he didn’t have energy blasts back then, was mortars or a grenade, in the flashback, butcher even says he must have got an upgrade..
@@fioafionawright8604 it explains why black noir cant speak ..and theres been soldiers whos survived chemical bomb explosions and fires....and black noir is a superpowered being so he can definately survive blasts like that and we seen hes done it before and he even when billy used a sword against him it didnt even phase him
Black noir killed millions without even giving a second thought and still made it to heaven
Imagine how bad you have to be to go to hell in the boys
Wow why have spoilers in the thumbnail smh
He's like a mix between Black Manta and Deathstroke.
I didn't actually like the comic twist
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I like how no one has pointed out that his name is Black Black
Ikr
does anyone find it odd that they felt it necessary to race change "black noir" into a black guy?.... i swear, these people think they are fighting discrimination.. but the undertones say an entirely different thing to anyone paying attention..
What are the undertones? Are they bad?
I'm not familiar with any of the source material so I wasn't aware of the clone thing. Watching this, I'm thinking they could still do it by killing off this B.N. & secretly replacing him with the clone.
What do you mean these people?? How ya know somebody black came up with that idea to make that character it’s not as deep as ya make dude chill
Huh??????
Damn can black people get any representation?
In the show the real black noir could have died after the peanut allergy incident and they put a homelander clone in Black noirs suit. And it could very well be the child that soldier boy was referring to who knows just the thought...
Finding out who's under the mask takes a lot away from the character. A lot of the mystique is gone.
Oh my God, thank you! I thought I was the only one
I think it enhances the mystery of the character quite a bit honestly. Most people that have looked into the series probably expect him to be this clone that’s a contingency plan. Showing he isn’t a clone of homelander let’s us question what his motivations are, where they are gonna take his character, as well as his entire backstory. Opens up many more directions to take the character
If you're talking about live action Black Noir, then wouldn't you mean hearing him talk takes away the mystique because part of his character is being silent? We saw his face in the flashback, sure, but we still don't know who that person is or where he came from (his origin). We just know he looks like a Black male.
Actually it adds more. It moves away from the comic so it adds in even more mystique to the character.
@@burrito_fighter6699 exactly
I really love the different versions of Black Noir in the show compared to the comics.
Gotta be honest, I think they show runners ruined the character of Black Noir, at least as compared to the comic book origins/Cannon.
He was a bit of a side character in the Comics, sure, but he absolutely had some of the biggest and most impact full scenes...
Especially the "big reveal".
There is literally nothing interesting or important about that character now (in the TV Show). Black Noir has no "big reveal" now. He's just... there.
Boring.
I couldn’t disagree more tbh. This big reveal in the comics was a great way to show that Homelanders downfall into madness was something that he was manipulated into and that he could have been the ideal superhero that he wanted to be in the first place. The show has taken Homelanders character a very different direction choosing to dive into dissecting Homelanders character and motivations/why he’s the way he is. If that were all ripped away at the end of the series and we find out the reveal that was in the comics it would be a huge cheat to what we’ve been shown so far. Plus it gives opportunity to make black noir his own character with his own motivations, backstory, and goals. For all we know he still could be a contingency plan against Homelander he’s probably the most powerful supe aside from homelander that we’ve seen so I don’t see why that couldn’t still be the case.
@@burrito_fighter6699 Because as things stand now (of course they could still end up changing everything) his backstory is incredibly boring. He was just a random, narcissistic supe who got disfigured? All right. It's something. But it's got nothing on the plot twist form the comics. That was fucking amazing. It also kills a lot of the mystery about him. I really wish they hadn't show that flashback scene. Oh well, we'll see where they go from here.
Black Noir is more like Slade than Batman.