Hyundai Ioniq 5 Road Trip From Norway to Germany - Battery Conditioning for the Win!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ย. 2022
- Our Hyundai Ioniq 5 just got the update for battery preconditioning and we took it on a road trip from Norway to Germany and back. We drove from Oslo to Göteborg and took the Stena Line ferry to Kiel. From Kiel we drove to Linz on the Rhine, a total of 900 km one way and 1800 km in total. #ev #ioniq5
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Great video and narration! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you of your video of update it was great.
Glad you enjoyed it. I will try to make another test when it is really cold. Looking forward to see myself how the fast (or slow) the charging will go.
This road trip could have been much faster if you drove until near 5-10% because you charged to or past 80%. You could have stopped near 10% and charged for 18-20 minutes and got that same 80% with much fewer stops. Especially when you’re already stopping for more than 20-30 minutes for the kids.
The preconditioning works only until about 20% SOC. But you are right, the fastest would be to stop at 20% then charge to 80% and drive on.
great video! i love this vlog style video! i hope to get my i5 within next 3-6 weeks and i can enjoy it also!
Good program 🤓
Europe just does chargers the right way! One standard and they all seem to work ..in good locations (near amenities like toilets, shops).
Nice video regarts from the Netherlands
Bedankt! :)
OMG 9min to charge that’s very impressive
Indeed. I drove the same route last autumn and since the car was "cold-gating" at the time, it could only charge a few percent within 10 minutes.
But that 9 minutes was only for 24% though. That’s not the how long a full charge is. I wish a full charge was 9 minutes. But it’s still fast
Great to see battery pre-conditioning being rolled out before the snow really starts to fly this year!
I’m really looking to test it again when temperatures are below zero.
Good video showing warming function. We have a Kia E-Niro that has a “winter mode” but I do not think it has the warming function while you are driving to the charger. It is not just children who want to stop, my wife wants to get out and walk for half an hour. In addition to EV-videos, I also watch Ferry-videos, so feel free to show more of the ship next time.
The Ioniq 5 and the Ioniq 28 kWh also had this "Winter mode", however I never saw that it actually did anything. Will try to show more of the ship next time. :)
Have you tried using Car Scanner app to see the actual battery temperature? I find it very useful on my Ioniq 5 which unfortunately doesn't have a battery heater. I will have the usual cold-gating. Good video by the way.
That is still on my to-do list. The best of course would be if this information could just be displayed by the car's infotainment system.
Have you ever driven from mainland Europe to anywhere in the UK? I would find it quite interesting to see the difference in charging infrastructure and experience with getting a working charging spot. Having recently been to Sweden and Norway I was amazed to see all the EVs there but feel like it still isn't time yet to buy one in the UK.
I haven't been to the UK. But I could see a difference between Norway, Sweden and Germany. In 2018, Norway had lots of chargers (mainly 50 kW chargers), Sweden and Germany had very few. Then the HPC chargers came. Norway is still on the top, Germany caught up a lot, Sweden still somewhere in the middle. I was in rural Sweden during Easter, there it was hard to find a HPC charger.
You are lucky that you could take the ferry. In Greece, you are no longer allowed to board the ship if your battery is over 40% charged.
Really enjoyed your travel log! I'm hoping to replace my Model 3 with an Ioniq 5 like yours, and your experience reassured me that charging non-Tesla EVs on roadtrips is becoming more convenient and reliable. Thank you!
Thanks. I have been driving electric since 2018 and the charging infrastructure has definitely become better and better in both Norway and Germany. What Tesla is doing well is that they have many chargers in one spot. In Germany, most Ionity chargers have only 4 chargers, I hope that this will be increased in the future to avoid long lines. The Ioniq 5 works very well for long trips. Very comfortable and with the battery of this size there is no need to worry about range.
I just switched from I5 (after 45k km) to refreshed TM3...sooo happy that I did this switch. Tesla is so far away in anything, software, consumption (this was the main reason), autopilot, chargin speed on Superchargers V2...if you need larger car, ok I5 is nice, but be aware that it is quite the only thing better...
@@KrodukCZ Hope you enjoy it. After nearly 5 years with my Model 3, I can't agree. And my wife definitely can't.
@@Yanquetino 5 year old Model 3 and 2023 Model 3 are two completely different cars. Quality, materials, ride, technology have been significantly improved. Ioniq 5 is also a nice car.
Hi great video. Thanks. I have a Ioniq 5 58 kWh battery and planning a road trip in December in France. I have the pre charging feature since the last update. If I understand well, I just use the onboard navigation system, put my 500 km destination, tick the preconditioning and it tells me at what chargers I must stop to charge ? No need to use ABRP to plan the trip with the chargers ?
The Ioniq 5 does not support charging planning, as you describe it. You can put in the destination, then go to the EV menu and find chargers along the route. Then select one charger, and the preheat function will start. However, I would recommend to plan the trip with ABRP to pick out reliable chargers. Then "save" those in the Ioniq navigation system and when you drive you can just pick the desired charger.
@@christophersvideos ok. Thanks 🙏
Nice video, how do you plan your trip, all on the onboard navigation? And how many km (or time) between charges?
To be honest, I don't do much of trip planning. On the route from Oslo to Göteborg for example, there are only 3 Ionity charging sites. I use Ionity because I get lower prices there. I saved those 3 into the navigation and then just select the one I want to go to. In case I want to stop in between, I just select during the driving the ones that are either along the route or close to my position. Kilometers between chargers depends a bit. In Germany on pure highway drives, I go maximum 250 km. And when you go with kids I stop at least every 1 1/2 hours or so. With the "old" Ioniq 28 kWh, there I did a lot of charging planning because the car _had_ to charge.
@@christophersvideos Thanks for your reply, interesting approach :) We have a kona 64, so lots of range but we still plan a lot while taking the long trips (netherlands - romania) but indeed, 250 max (even without children) just to visit the toilets and stretch the legs a bit. Right now looking in to the ioniq5, especially because of the charging.
Did you total up the charging time?
and the distance covered?
The distance one-way was about 900 km. For this, I recharged 173 kwh. The car was fully loaded (4 passengers and baggage) . I did not record the charging time because sometimes we stopped longer than the car needed to charge.
Does the Hyundai Software show you where charging points are and can you pre plan a trip using it so it tells you exactly where you have to charge? I really like that about the tesla software...
No, it does not have charging planning in that sense. What I usually do is to filter the chargers based on operation. For example only show Ionity chargers. Then when I select a destination I can see the chargers that are along the route and select them. But this is a manual process.
@@christophersvideos ok. Thats still simple enough I guess. I really like the specs and the look of the Ioniq5 and i think it will become my next car. I hope Hyundai will make so much money with it that they release the N74 Vision for the road 😉
Why do you make such short intervals? Because of the kids? I normally try to make 200km plus intervals with my Ionic 5 and also use Ionity. So 2hrs plus drive. That works fine for me
Fully agree. Usually 220 km or so works fine. For us it was more the time we spent in the car. There are sometimes border controls after arriving with the ferry and although the first charger (Buddikate West) is only 80 km or so from Kiel, it takes (including the wait after the ferry) 1,5-2 hours. Another thing are traffic jams. The nice thing is that it is not the car anymore that decides the stops. We also had the Ioniq classic before and there we _had_ to charge every 125 kilometers. :)
I was thinking the same. If you plan your charging so, that you arrive to the charger with 5-10%, the charging speed would be amazing! But may be there is a minimum with the SOC, where pre-conditioning does not start anymore?
@@jussikoskela9850 The pre-warming works only until about 20% SOC (some even say 24%). If the SOC is lower than that, it won't even start. - There is also a cost reason: On our route, there would be no Ionity chargers when the SOC is about 20%. I would pay double for the charging because currently I have this Ionity premium contract that basically allows me to charge for half the price. But agree, the fastest way to go would be to quickly charge to 80%, then drive onwards and charge again when you are at 25% (just above this limit).
why not use ABRP to optimise ? Seems you arrive with high SOC ?
This would definitely be possible. We simply took a break at least every two hours. And since it charges quickly to even 100%, you arrive with high SOC on the next stop as well.
Can you please outline your experiences driving in - 15 temps? Obviously there is shorter range but how well do the heater, windshield defrosters work? Thank you.
Everything works very well. The air conditioning/heating system is very good, keeps the car nicely warm, but of course consumes quite some energy when it is that cold. Defrosting the windshield goes also very fast and traction on snow is excellent (especially with snow mode). Only minus is the consumption, the lower the temperature gets, the higher it goes.
@@christophersvideos Thank you
How did you get the software update ??? Which version is it ?
Is this applicable for 2021 model as well ??? I have the version equipped with heat pump, and I have read that in this case I can get the battery pre-conditionning
This is a software update that only an authorized Hyundai dealers can install. In Norway it is available for all existing models of the Ioniq 5 and specifically activates the pre-conditioning function. I have the P45 version since 2021. I heard rumors that this update will not be available in the U.S. market, but I'm not sure.
@@christophersvideos thanks Christopher ... I am in Belgium and bought the 72.3 kwh ioniq 5 with heat pump so probably I can get it...
Yes, Belgium should be fine. It seems that Hyundai is rolling this out with slightly different timing. In Norway it was available mid-September, in Germany a bit later than that. And some dealers might not know about it yet.
@@christophersvideos mail sent to dealership... enjoy your car ! I come from a big polluting audi Q7 and enjoy every single day having switched to the ioniq5. I am very impressed by the level of quality and confort. I will jump to the next ioniq 5 with a battery lasting 750km ... probably in 5 years ???
@@francisdebriey3609 better to ask the dealer / importer....f.e. Czech Rep. importer doesnt care about this and will not do this update ....
never trust insideevs as a honest car site. stay right here!
Probably using the pre condition is worse for the batteries than a slower colder charge. I would switch it off.
On longer drives, I only use it for the first charger. After that, the battery is usually warm enough so that also the next charging sessions go quite fast. It is a nice feature to have, but agree most of the time it is not needed.
@@christophersvideos Multiple fast charging will cause more degradation than high mileage. Charge as slow as possible with one fast change or it going to damage battery.
Its just a useless feature, as it only works above 20%. In all day use i would never go to a charger with 20%...maximum 5%.
There are different use cases. I once had to go to a HPC charger that was only 25 km away. It was winter and I arrived with 50%. It took 35 minutes to get it to 80%. I needed to charge there because no other HPC charger was close. There this feature would have come in handy...
Drive untill 10%. Less stops and it charges faster.
The battery pre-conditioning only works until about 20% SOC. For practical reasons, we needed to take the charging stops earlier than that. :)
@@christophersvideos Battery would not cool down much until 10%, you could clearly see it with obd2 dongle.
thought it was charging frm 20 to 80% in 18 minutes. what a bummer. bull
We know it is possible to travel EV across Europe, but it's completely pointless as well.
And why exactly is it pointless?