My First Ever EV Road Trip Experience | Hyundai Ioniq 6
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- In this video I take you along for my first ever EV road trip to the #mama23rally in Wisconsin. This trip was almost within the range of the Hyundai Ioniq 6 RWD but at interstate speeds the efficiency drops to make it a one charge trip. I stopped at the Milwaukee Electrify America station and although we charged it didn't come without issues. These issues were signet surge not allowing for ideal charging speeds that the Hyundai Ioniq 6 is capable of. The location was a typical Walmart parking lot which has its pros and cons. Let me know your first EV trip experience (if you have one) in the comments below!
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First road trip in an EV was last weekend, in our new Ioniq 6 First Edition - but over here in the UK rather than the US. Used planning tools such as ABRP and Zapmap to get a feeling for how the trip might play out, and Zapmap was very much on point with their predictions. Charged only once on the round-trip, at an ultra-fast (350kw) charger when I was down to around 26%. In the time it took me to relieve myself and think a little about how much charge I needed to add, it was up to 70% and I disconnected. 10 mins in all, with peak rates up in the 230kw range. I cannot fault my experience, but I of course know that it won’t always be so smooth.
To counter some of the other comments, personally I am prepared to plan a bit more and spend a bit more time en-route to drive electric - because my children and their children deserve a little bit of consideration from my generation to help limit the difficulties we are already going to be heaping on their lives in the future.
Good video, thanks.
Gas/diesel station infrastructure has had 120+ years to evolve, where the public EV charging network has had about 10 years; I consider EV charging to be where gas station infrastructure was in about 1910-1915. I hope it improves quickly.
Your charging is amazing because in Canada where I live almost all CCS chargers are 50 kW and the few 100kW+ chargers stop working in the real cold in winter.
That's crazy. Moving forward I would say 150kW is going to be the "base level" speeds for most new equipment but 50-350kW chargers are considering DCFC.
Im getting a Ev , i like this one so far, but I dont consider is smart to use them for a long trip, lol, the everyday local usage is perfect, home charging with my solar panels is just ideal
The 350 kW EA chargers, which can get up to 225 kW for charging, are very hit and miss when I use them. I find the 150 kW chargers at EA are more consistent and I usually hit 155 kW peak on them in the Ioniq 5.
I also agree that efficient driving makes sense when you can eliminate the need to charge. I did a trip from DC to Philadelphia recently and got there at 57% driving pretty efficiently. I then was able to drive faster back to DC knowing that I had a nice buffer and would be able to charge overnight back in DC. Also, you will always want to eliminate a charging stop if possible as while it theoretically can be quick, usually you have to go out of your way to get there, it could be full, the first station you try might have issues, etc...
Yeah I am not sure if I mentioned that or not but I believe peak speeds for an Ioniq 5 or Ioniq 6 are around 240kW under ideal conditions for the 350kW chargers. I should have tried a 150kw just to see if I would have been able to get a consistent 150kw (or greater) which would have actually been quicker than dealing with surging.
I always get up to 245kw at 350 kw chargers, 173 kw at 150 kw chargers with my ioniq 5 & ioniq 6, I have both cars
If your area is cold, use the battery preconditioning to warm the battery, you can get much better charging speed
You have to sort of pre heat the bat and system before 350kw charge I read somewhere so you can optimize the charge at max 👌🏻😉
Thank you for this video.
Back in May we went to SF down highway one to Pacifica then HMB, CA in our brand new I-6 SE LRange pushing 371, yes not 361.
Eighty percent from EA's same 80% but were @ a 350 but barely went above 150w most of the time, didn't flexuate like your exp.
BUT....HOWEVER, did awesome used less fuel up and down hills then Coastal Hwy from Ocean Beach with over 200 left!
our experience was SO Much Better than our old LEAF from 2013. We also had the ac on low and blasted our music. Better exp than the Polestar 2 and Tesla 3 we had rented since Jan from Enterprise AND HERTZ. Hope your experience with your wife's 5 will be just as good and Winsconson Elect may not be reg or consistent for EV Charging at such high voltages and Kw's Currents.
Best buy we have made in decades, worth the wait to lose the bells and whistles and rainbow lights in the SEL and LTD and N.
we have one of the top 3 of EV's in distance/mileage surpassing three hundred sixty one miles and less than half an hour to chrg.
range is based on around 55 mph,,, into the 70 mph it really drops,, same for all cars
I use the Electrify America 150 watt charger and l get the same charging speeds that you got
Yeah the 150kW's are capable of doing just a little more than 150kW's in a perfect scenario. These 350kW's units were not providing the speeds they should have been.
I defnitely agree with your comment that developing the charging grid is more important than increasing vehicle range. It's the drama that surrounds charger availability that's scary.
Range is pretty close to what it needs to be (roughly 300 miles) but the availability is a little low on anything other than major interstates.
Those EA chargers are total BS if they charge per minute. With the rate of charge fluctuating so much I can already see a potential scandal of them throttling speeds so you pay more.
Right off the bat I have to say, charge speed is not a promise.
The charging speed will be double if you pre heat the battery. For that you have to select a charger as the destination on the built in NAV.
Battery preconditioning only works when ambient temps are below 70° or so. It wouldn't have made a difference here.
Did not know that. Thanks!
@@CarsMadeSimple No, it works when the battery is too cold (less than 25° C), and the SOC is 18% or above.
The heating power used is about 4 kW, so you need some stretch to get it up to temperature with a low outside temperature.
Yes, I may have been vague saying ambient temps (Which directly affect battery temp) when it is actually battery temp. In any case, it wouldn't have activated in this situation or changed anything.
@@CarsMadeSimple If not in a hurry, I only use preconditioning below 10° C.
My first experience with the Ioniq 6 charging was in March, preconditioning stopped due to low SOC, but I got from 8% to 80% in 19 minutes.
I would like to see an Ioniq 6 SE RWD model to see if it gets 363 miles per charge.
22:45 I was gonna say that car has route planning and preconditioning so ambient conditions shouldnt be as much of a factor.
The route planning is much better now than it was at the time of this trip. It still requires use of the built in navigation.
All Hyundai’s 800v high speed charging tech” is useless it would appear. They might as well hop aboard the big T’s 400v supercharging network at those speeds. Good review! Like the car. Interior is one of my favorites on the market right now too
It says "UP to 350kW" right on the charger. 200-250 is about average for the Hyper chargers...still really quick!
Correct. The EGMP cars can pull around 240kW at their peak.
Its worth it $11 to charge ur car vs $45 to $60 to get Gas. Saves a lot of money over time.
If you drive a lot and/or have a low fuel efficiency vehicle, it sure does! This trip using 30 MPG average, would have cost roughly $62 in fuel. It was roughly half for electricity including the cost to charge ahead of time.
@@CarsMadeSimple AMEN 🙏🏾
The EV infrastructure is just not ready for prime time as yet. Maybe some day chargers will become a ubiquitous as gas stations, but until then, range anxiety and the need to alter your route and driving style to accommodate charging stops, is a definite drawback.
You understand EVs primarily are for daily commuting and while you can road trip with them, it’s not the main purpose. Like going off-road with a sports car
@@gadgetimpulse3833 : The video is about making a road trip with an EV; thus my comments are on that subject. The purpose of expanding the charging infrastructure is to provide for just that. The public will never be persuaded to shift away from fossil fuel burning vehicles to cleaner EV's, if they are limited to local commutes.
@@DairyAirGunners understood. People who often take road trips should not be in the market for an EV at this point.
@gadgetimpulse3833 well that is not my experience, we do 2 - 3 - 4500km trips every year. Drive a total of 60,000km a year and we find no issues. Our first EV a Kona was a very slow charging car - max 70kw but we still did our trips and no issues. Our Ioniq5 is a fantastic road trip car, get 150 - 180kw charging speed on 150kw chargers and when we get on a 350kw charger we have done 240kw charge speed as advertised.
We all in all have no complaints - as the Video poster said the ABB chargers are what we have been on mostly which have been really reliable. Only charged on a Signet a couple times and didn't notice an issue but I do know it exists.
In any case you are right EV's are not for everyone but we sure love ours!
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I don't understand the range anxiety everyone has around ev. How many 400 plus mi road trips are you taking? Can't you rent a car or fly ? 8ts such a tired argument. If you go on a road trip you need to plan breaks and stuff ECT. You just charge on your break. It's just a matter of planning your trips. It's not that difficult. It's just people being resistant to change.
I noticed that you use chargers at Wallmarts alot. Why? Is this what is mostly available? Or what you mostly find dependable?
Electrify America charging stations are mostly located at Walmart stores. This is changing but this is where many are still located.
I'm looking at this car right now. That $9.25 is crazy, where I am it's gonna be between $60 and $90.
Where are you located? That would be over $1/kwh. That doesn't seem feasible to charge that much in the US.
@CarsMadeSimple I'm in the UK buddy, 72 pence at most fast chargers(88 cents) per kw/h but there are some chargers that go as high as 95 which is just over a dollar.
My family live in the US and I laugh when I hear Americans complain about gas and electricity prices, our electricity has quadrupled in 8 years.
It's just under $10 a gallon for gas so I figure it's only worth it if I charge the vehicle at home where its about 55 pence(67 cents) per kw/h.
I was watching a video of someone near London paying £92 to charge one to 90%, that worked out twice as much as gas or diesel. Its a joke.
Did you talk to the Rivian or Lightning owners to find out what charging rate they were getting?
I did not. I know the Rivian was doing a fairly deep charge. I showed up after they were already charging and left before they did. Granted I was only doing a little more than 50%.
You need to arrive with less charge and a per-conditioned battery in order to get those top speeds while charging.
Battery preconditioning shouldn't have impacted this charging session as the ambient temperature was right within "ideal" conditions for max speed. As for lower SOC, there was no station closer to my destination so this was the best opportunity The DCFC dispenser was clearly not working properly with speeds jumping all over the place and it is a well known issue.
@@CarsMadeSimple I see the Signet issue with my Taycan too. Just saying, when I've hit that sweet spot (or close) with preconditioning (what was your battery temp?) and SOC, Signet issue aside, I get 250kw+ pretty easy. I do agree I think you were, in addition, getting the other stuff.
wondering if the charge speed and rerouting to walmart for 7 mins which all came up to an an hour + 20 mins is the same for tesla's as well?
It would all depend on the location of the chargers. Tesla's charging network is more robust which means more reliable with consistent speeds. That is why we have started seeing announcements of manufacturers switching to NACS within the next 2 years, which is Tesla's plug. Other networks will likely have to retrofit their equipment with NACS too but CCS will be around for quite some time so it definitely benefits the end users.
I am inclined to buying a Kia EV6 or an IONIQ 5 because of how appealing they are to me than the teslas. Also everyone around me having one of them made me not to want one haha. I am looking at the base model's which are around 41000 for my first car(not sure if tax rebate is still there if it is then 42000 - 7500 = 34500 ) . Would highly appreciate your opinions or suggestions. Thank you
I am pretty sure the Ioniq 6 only takes about 250kw and not 350kw.
can we use the air conditioner while charging the car?
Yup!
I hate that chargers price by time instead of the power. I reize in most cases tbis is due to regulations and not the charger, but it's so idiotic to pay more if your car can't peak the charger.
Agreed! Unless the price per minute is based upon a slower average charge speed with the possibility to get higher (cheaper) overall price.
EV’s will only succeed when every gas station also has chargers
We don't need nearly the amount of chargers as we currently have gas pumps. The only areas that may need similar amounts are on interstates. You can't fill an ICE car at home but you can charge your EV at home.
Most people charge at home anyways. BUT l drive a tesla every public charging experience is a good experience
@@CarsMadeSimple If you're not a farmer, driving a diesel. I'll charge my EV 95% at home.
the legacy automakers shud be contributing to the charging infrastructure , and taking accountability for dysfunctional chargers,instead of leaving it up to tesla and 3rd parties to piggie back off of just my IMO
Most of them are investing in charging over the next couple years.
Do not range test over 70mph.
Most of EV range test speed is 70mph.
5mph make a big difference in high speed.
This wasn't a range test. This was a real world scenario where I am trying to get from point A to point B without driving differently than an ICE vehicle.
i absolutely hate that google maps does not occupy the WHOLE screen
30 minutes to charge vs gas?
No preconditioning, and he charged to 90%, disconnecting on 80% would be faster. The pulsing was also very strange.
I was in a situation where I wanted a safety buffer as I was traveling into a "no mans land" where there were no DCFC's and I knew level 2 might be hard to come by given the many EV's at the event.
@@CarsMadeSimple Sorry, I'm not used to the US EV infrastructure. Here in Germany, we have a very good coverage with 250 kW+ chargers all along the Autobahn.
My local Lidl (400m) has a 50 kW charger, some Aldis have more and faster chargers.
@@svengaefgen5909 That would be very nice but it's far from the case here. I believe EV adoption would be higher if we had better infrastructure. I have met many people who didn't think they would like EV's and tried them to find they are pretty easy to live with.
@@CarsMadeSimple I absolutely agree. Part of the problem is the size of the US, besides much too less effort.
You live in a dream world. You can't make charging companies do anything. They know you need them so use them or don't use them. You could have moved to other 350kw chargers and tried them or even the 150kw chargers may have worked better for you. And you made no effort to get faster charging. You seem like a nice guy so please make a better effort and break out of your dream world and wake up to reality.
I got better things to fo than sit there waiting. Especially in the winter.
Most charging is done at home while asleep, on road trips by the time you need to charge most are ready to visit the toilets stretch the legs and grab something to eat/drink by which time the cars ready again !
I don't know about other EVs but I find roadtripping with my Tesla to be...fun
ya it only takes around 240 kw
Hyundai is misrepresenting generally charging speeds. I have never met the “ideal” charging conditions to get above 150kw. They should market real world charging, which is always 120-140 for my use. Plus, my kw always surges up and down like that. Hyundai needs to fix this. Tesla charging stations always close to freeway, that is a major reason why Tesla are so popular. But with Tesla, their insurance was 100 more per month-no thanks.
Hyundai can't control the chargers. The chargers are malfunctioning when surging. If Hyundai had end to end control (like Tesla) they would likely operate quicker, more often.
Who has 25 min to get fuel???
My ioniq 6 charge 330mile
Depending on your driving/efficiency, it is possible to see that number!
330miles = 531km
I cannot stand the looks of the instrument cluster. I definitely don't care for the message that displays of the right telling you to keep your hands on the wheel. I will buy an electric vehicle when they jam them down my throat. Sitting in your car wondering how far you can travel at the current state of charge is enough to drive you crazy.
well it tells you to hold the wheel from time to time when its on auto pilot and ppl most remove their hands ,,, range is the same for all cars ,, if you only have a gas gauge you wonder how far you can travel ,, ev car also tell you an approx distance in miles as well before empty
I see your point about the estimated range being so prominent all the time but the only difference between EV's and GAS is the fact there isn't a charging location at nearly very corner.
@@CarsMadeSimple yes there is,, ,every house in the country is a charging station,, different mind set when having an ev ,, a car is now a phone,, you charge it every night and every time you travel and stop ,, its always full when you get in it
@@MAGApepe100% All these people posting about trips to different types of supercharger stations.... when I have my Ioniq 6 it will be charged at home, with a home-charging station, every night before it's daily drive of 10 - 200km. I see only a very rare need for a charging station on the road.
@@petesig93 look at the grizzl e mini charge,, seems good ,, 40 A unit