It's still a solid strategy though, ideally I like to pull into a charger around 3% on the dash, Incase there are any unforseen circumstances. It can happen to the best of us.
Kyle - Please don't let your dad keep overcharging to 90%+...he is setting a bad example! We did this same basic run with 8 stops and never charged past 80%...I'm 60 yrs old my self and can EV road trip properly, so it's not an age thing...
I'm an ID4 owner. It's my first EV. Until I saw the videos on this channel complaining about IDs being plugged in at 350s I had no idea I was being a doofus. The EA where I normally charge near my house is always empty (I charge on the way back from work at 11pm), and the 350 is the easiest to get in and out of. I charge at the 150 if I'm there during the day. We'll all learn eventually. Hopefully VW will step up their game and start producing better charging cars.
I don't know about hows EA has built their 150ies. But where I am, in Europe, there are lot of 150ies with 200Amp-Limitation. Every 400Volt-based Car (like the ID-Series or Mach-E) will get less than 70KW, at such chargers. So whenever I charge my Skoda Enyaq, I use the 360ies, with good reason, though it's only possible to charge 125 kw.
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That's stupid. Ideally every EA will be a 350 making it all moot
@ cars can already handle more than 350. Car technology is progressing faster than charging infrastructure can keep up. That said, it's really going to have to ramp up so that people can charge as fast as they fuel up. Eventually the 350 cars will be blocking faster charges too
I also have an ID.4 And I normally use the 150s, but EA 150 chargers at my local Walmart are sometimes wonky. After trying three different 150s the other day I refused to charge at 33kw on a 150 when I got 100+ on one of the 350s. So it's not always lack of knowledge or rudeness that has us using the 350s. Just plain frustration or need.
At the end of this. I'm legit curious as to what a hypermiling type of trip would do. One thing about the emergency L1 stop. That hour driving at 55 mph that you didn't want to do, would have saved you the 90 minutes at thex110 outlet.
16:00 As a European, driving the 500 meters from the EA station in Abingdon to Chick-Fil-A instead of just walking over there while the car is charging is peak 'Merica.
He probably ate in the restaurant. Given the speed at which his car charges, he might have incurred idle fees while enjoying his lunch. Or he may have been busy doing work in the car while it was charging.
@@rzu7120 He charged for ~24 mins from 11% to 90%. Charging to 100% would've taken an extra ~10 mins. At EA you get a 10-minute grace period after charging has stopped before the idle fee of .40$/min kicks in. So that's ~45 mins total. That should be enough for the walk to and from the restaurant + having your meal. No offense though, it was just an observation I made.
Just for conversation sake, If I had to guess I would say he probably used the drive thru because I don't think he can take the dog in the restaurant and it's probably not ok to leave the dog in the car when charging and walk over to sit in the restaurant.
The ice machine was an lol moment. Feels like a fast and furious moment. “Too soon junior”. On a serious note car seems great. Charges 5 times faster than my mini and hope your auxiliary battery drain has been sorted. Great trip video!
To be quite honest, this channel has done more for EVs for me than anything else. You guys do a great job at just showing the cars honestly and intelligibly without marketing fuss, overselling it, or underplaying it. Just nice overall.
I agree. Kyle Connor and his team have put together the best EV channel on youtube for people who want more than just a marketing show. This place is full of details and real life experiences.
I think the reason mustang mach-e and ID4 are in 350 charger is because of a lack of knowledge. It's my assumption that they don't know what their vehicles can receive max and think the bigger the better.
Dave, the ICE comment in your header had me wondering if you actually had met up with an ICE vehicle which had an on-board AC Inverter or an AC generator to bail you out of trouble. That's funny! You were very creative... My first totally battery only EV was a FIAT 500e with approximately 87 miles of range. Even so, I once obtained 98 miles running around town between 45-50 MPH. I was impressed with that range. I bought the car In Spring Hill, Florida, about 25 miles north of Tampa. I live in Lake City, Florida which is approximately 150 miles north, driving mostly on US Highway 41. I had to configure some creative charging routines to make it home before dark. I stopped approximately 45 miles north in Inverness. I arrived at the town square which had two level 2 (free) charge stations. I plugged in and went across the road to a diner and had a hamburger and fries, then returned to the car. I waited about 15 more minutes until the charge was at 82%. That was not enough to get me home, so I had a pre-planned location to reach the little town of Newberry. That location had NO public charging stations. But I had previously joined the "PlugShare" network. It shows public as well as some private locations which allow Level 1 or 2 charging. Since the car only came with a 120V Level 1 unit, I knew that would be too slow. The private home had a Level 2 charger installed, so he had arranged for me to use that one to complete my remaining 52 miles to reach home. I spent almost 2 hours with him, while being entertained by four kids and two dogs! I thanked him and offered ten bucks for his time and generosity, but he would not take any money. He also had a 2016 Chevy Volt (PHEV) which he used for his approximately 50-mile trip to work in Orlando. He worked at a location with Free charging for EVs. So, he used very little gas for his weekly 250 miles of commuting for employment. I bought the Fiat 500e in May 2017 and sold it to a "new car dealer" almost Five years (April 2022) later for exactly what I paid for it! Note: I had already purchased a 2018 blue Chevy Volt Premier in June 2020, so I didn't need two electric vehicles. I also allow private Level 2 charging at my home for urgent or emergency use.
Love this video, it was a real roller coaster of emotions! Even at the low point, you managed to avoid needing a tow truck, so counting everything you learned it was a total win for me. More Kyle’s dad anytime!
Moral of the story, try and trust the car’s route planner. I think to truly test an EV the route planner is one of the most important elements. Using ABRP or planning yourself is great, but we can all make errors, I’ve done it! Awesome video, Ioniq 5 is awesome. I will be making a similar trip to Wilmington hitting some of the same stations in my Etron, hopefully it goes smoothly!
Amazing video. Got a lot worried when you missed the exit/turn and were rerouted but liked how calm and cool were you. I'm now liking the ioniq 5 alot more. Thank you for this amazing video. Video moments with Bailey were priceless.
Awesome roadtrip video! Very informative in typical Out of Spec style! I hope that everyone who charges in 350kw are more aware of what their cars can pull in. I have my Mach-e First Edition and I would only pull in 350kw if it was the only available station left
For anyone watching this video since 2023. The Ioniq 5 added en-route pre-conditioning in one of their updates, so all year models should now be able to do that. It works through the on-board Nav system, and you must select a charger through use of the POI charging station list. If you navigate there any other way, it will not engage. A little icon in the lower left screen appears, indicating it is on.
my opinion is the whole manual "pre-conditioning" the pack thing, and the managing your speed based on expected remaining range thing, is of little real value. is it technically correct ? sure. but, just keep your speed constant (gives you the best efficiency in EV or ICE) and get to the next stop. rewards are just not great enough vs risk.
Wow - just wow! I’m only at the ice machine portion of the video. I feel like I’m watching a documentary film about EV life. Way to turn lemons into lemonade!
What a journey! Seems like it was a great trip with consistently fast charging sessions. I feel your pain with ID.4 owners always on the 350kW chargers. I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt that all other stations were full when they pulled in.
I wish EA would just make all the stations 350kw capable but split power if there’s multiple cars hooked up at the same time. That way it could manage and adjust the power and people wouldn’t have to worry about which stall they’re pulling into
As a European who’ve never seen an EA station in trial life, how do you distinguish between a 150- and 350 kw station when approaching them? From all videos I’ve seen, they all look the same from som distance where you normally commit to which one to use? It seems a little harsh to fault an average 1st time EV owner to block a 350 kw station with their ID4 if they’re not informed about the car’s charging curve and also can’t spot the difference between the higher- and lower powered chargers.
@@simoningebrand there’s a sticker and sometimes there’s either a sign for the spot or it’s painted on the ground. I don’t think most people would fault a novice EV driver for not realizing. Hopefully over time some awareness will spread or EA will be able to make all the chargers have higher outputs so it wouldn’t matter
Super video, learning a lot about EV driving. Ordered an Ioniq 5 and now waiting a half year..for delivery. Please keep posting your vids about this car. Thanks from The Netherlands
I stopped at that Brunswick EA once, ran into a guy in an e-tron, told me his car charged at 500kw and I should plug my ID4 into a 350 so it would charge faster. Some people just have no clue! Thanks for taking the time to film Dave!
@@abraxastulammo9940 he definitely did not haha. Seemed to kind of live I his own reality. He said he'd had it towed 3x that week because sometimes it's easier to let it run out of juice, get an Uber to where he needs to go and just have his car dropped off for charging at home in his driveway. Definitely had some screws loose.
I don’t understand the idea of burning all the energy, i mean if you arrive at the charger with 10%, that’s 10% less to charge, you can get back on the road faster
Your windy section would have been great to plug in ABRP to see what it recommended as you subscription comes with weather data to make adjustments to energy consumption.
👍 Great tip for everyone!…always have a mobile charger onboard and in an emergency look for outdoor vending machines. 1.8 million of them in the U. S. ✌️😊
As you are showing in your video, the fun thing about charging at Electrify America is seeing all the different kinds of EVs that stop there. On our recent trip, we saw a Rivian in Bloomington, IL (very near Rivian's factory), EV6s, ID4s, the always beautiful Mustang Mach E, lots of Chevy Bolts, Etrons, and a Porsche Taycan. I'm waiting for my first F150 Lightning sighting@
Can't speak for ABRP on iOS, but on Android it works great for me. I have to add, if you have a way to feed it "live data", it gets very much better. Kinda surprised you don't get to see arrival SoC estimates, as I am pretty sure it did for me last time I went on a "long trip" (only a couple hundred miles, but on a car with only just 2000 miles in a year, that's a long trip)?
Just narrate the exit to the EA and you’ll be less likely to miss it. When I just do notices on Waze to cut down on audibles, I have to discipline myself to read the exit number in the pop up notification. Nice to see the OBD on the buffer. Someone had to document it for the books. 😉
Just drove past South of the Border and they advertise EV charging now. Love the content because I would drive most of this rout annually to Rhode Island and I plan on getting the F150 Lightning
Best advice make the time of driving from Maine - Washington DC for night time because nj turnpike into GW you will encounter traffic all hrs of the day but it reduces a lot of time driving nights
I once had to plug my Zero FX into a random plug to get back home. It charges SUPER slow. I mean at that point, you need to turn off every single thing that could be drawing current in order to have any charge at all. The LCD screens, your phone, even the OBD2 plug you have is taking up precious juice that needs to go to the battery. Every millivolt counts in that situation. And you don't know what other appliances are on that circuit. If that same circuit is powering another appliance on the inside, or some of the lights, you'll trip the circuit breaker when you plug in.
And as long as you're at that gas station, you might as well over inflate your tires, decrease rolling resistance and max out the range of what little juice you have.
Id4 was plugged in to the 350 because the other ones were being used. Don't think one minute I will not use it. You can wait just as you want me to wait for the slower one.
Now that you mention it, I do remember reading something about that. O well. A little late for me today though haha. In any event, thanks for the tip and thanks for watching !
States that currently have lowest EA rates by minute.....Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia. Mississippi. Louisiana, Texas, Kentucky, Wisconsin, South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, Kansas, Massachusetts, New Hampshire,
An idea... how about we keeping a stack of polite signs to stick on the 350kw units that ask EV owners if their vehicle doesn't charge over 150kw then please leave this 350kw charger for those that do unless there's no choice remaining. Better yet, hopefully someday the charger manufacturers will start having a notice built in.
I agree with some other posters here that an insecure outlet isn't implicit permission for you to steal electricity from a closed business. Would you have used the bathroom and grabbed a drink too if the door was left unlocked? What would you have done if your charger tripped the breaker and the ice machine stopped running? You did a great job highlighting the importance of having a plan and sticking to it. Then you refused to slow down until it was basically too late, and let a local small business pay for your carelessness. Use ABRP to plan your stops (even if you don't use the in-car navigation part of it), leave a bigger buffer than 0%, and don't steal power when you didn't plan ahead well enough. I love a ton of what your channel does, but this video gives EV owners a bad name and encourages people to just "plug in wherever" like electricity is free.
Lots of traffic 😂😂 yes, on a Friday at 10am new york city area it is pretty bad. I've come to dislike driving in the NYC due to all of the traffic and crazy drivers.
This was a good video. Kyle’s dad did an great job. However he made a costly mistake letting that battery get that low. He should have kept that 10% buffer. He was literally stranded in one of the most dangerous cities in SC. I’m glad he’s okay but as an EV owners you have to be cautious about these things.
ARRP is actually very good and precise if you put in all the data an allowed live watching over your car soc. It’s much better calculating weather, topography and then so. I use it in my Tesla and it never more off than a 1-2% when arriving destination. But it requires that all data is correctly put in. And this changes only if you have extra weight with you. Everything else is calculated. I used it up against teslas nav and it’s as good and Sometimes a bit better.
The video of the five cars driving from Fort Collins to Las Vegas was much more informative regarding possible charging strategies. The Kyle charging strategy works better for someone with more experience. I think that we have to set an example of acceptable behavior (stealing electricity not acceptable) and I always make a point of talking with the Bolt, id.4, etc. owners who are icing the 350's. Many of the EV drivers are ignorant of the basic principals, we can use the opportunity to share knowledge (as Kyle always does) with those with less experience.
My first car had a choke I could pull. Why can’t even ev have a “precondition battery” button. I sure could use it in my Tesla as most fast chargers I have used outside the supercharger network here in the EU, wasn’t in the navigation.
Enjoyable video! Urge Dad-of-Kyle to avoid the 0% SoC stops though!! I've done AZ~Cape Cod~AZ a few times in our Tesla Y and have found a hard floor of 15% SoC is a pretty good idea!!
It's Pooler, GA, not "Pool" 🤣 Thanks for the info. Living in Savannah and charging only at Pooler, I never knew the EA charger has different prices. Also, is it hard to wash off all the bugs from that matte paint?
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Favorite guy trick when traveling long distances, eat in the car while on the go!
@@terryrodbourn2793 The other guy trick of refilling sport drink bottles. Going on the go.
Was your ioniq a awd? @outofspecmotoring
All that talk about range confidence and having no range anxiety - and then in the next clip he’s looking for wall outlets 🤣. Nice video, Dad!
It's still a solid strategy though, ideally I like to pull into a charger around 3% on the dash, Incase there are any unforseen circumstances. It can happen to the best of us.
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@@dylanmcruse Yup :)
I think you need a bigger SAT NAV 😂Great recovery finding the ice machine though.
Kyle - Please don't let your dad keep overcharging to 90%+...he is setting a bad example! We did this same basic run with 8 stops and never charged past 80%...I'm 60 yrs old my self and can EV road trip properly, so it's not an age thing...
I'm an ID4 owner. It's my first EV. Until I saw the videos on this channel complaining about IDs being plugged in at 350s I had no idea I was being a doofus. The EA where I normally charge near my house is always empty (I charge on the way back from work at 11pm), and the 350 is the easiest to get in and out of. I charge at the 150 if I'm there during the day. We'll all learn eventually. Hopefully VW will step up their game and start producing better charging cars.
Until EA provides a way to distinguish between a 350 and a 150 without having perfect eyesight, this will continue
I don't know about hows EA has built their 150ies. But where I am, in Europe, there are lot of 150ies with 200Amp-Limitation. Every 400Volt-based Car (like the ID-Series or Mach-E) will get less than 70KW, at such chargers. So whenever I charge my Skoda Enyaq, I use the 360ies, with good reason, though it's only possible to charge 125 kw.
That's stupid. Ideally every EA will be a 350 making it all moot
@ cars can already handle more than 350. Car technology is progressing faster than charging infrastructure can keep up. That said, it's really going to have to ramp up so that people can charge as fast as they fuel up. Eventually the 350 cars will be blocking faster charges too
I also have an ID.4 And I normally use the 150s, but EA 150 chargers at my local Walmart are sometimes wonky. After trying three different 150s the other day I refused to charge at 33kw on a 150 when I got 100+ on one of the 350s. So it's not always lack of knowledge or rudeness that has us using the 350s. Just plain frustration or need.
At the end of this. I'm legit curious as to what a hypermiling type of trip would do. One thing about the emergency L1 stop. That hour driving at 55 mph that you didn't want to do, would have saved you the 90 minutes at thex110 outlet.
16:00 As a European, driving the 500 meters from the EA station in Abingdon to Chick-Fil-A instead of just walking over there while the car is charging is peak 'Merica.
He probably ate in the restaurant. Given the speed at which his car charges, he might have incurred idle fees while enjoying his lunch. Or he may have been busy doing work in the car while it was charging.
@@rzu7120 He charged for ~24 mins from 11% to 90%. Charging to 100% would've taken an extra ~10 mins. At EA you get a 10-minute grace period after charging has stopped before the idle fee of .40$/min kicks in. So that's ~45 mins total. That should be enough for the walk to and from the restaurant + having your meal. No offense though, it was just an observation I made.
Just for conversation sake, If I had to guess I would say he probably used the drive thru because I don't think he can take the dog in the restaurant and it's probably not ok to leave the dog in the car when charging and walk over to sit in the restaurant.
"500 meters"? You mean 4 and a half football fields, right? 😂 (just kidding)
@@lesliefranklin1870 I think he meant 99 rods.
That car should be called the ironic 5 when it's plugged into that ICE machine!
It’s not plugged into the ice machine.
The ice machine was an lol moment. Feels like a fast and furious moment. “Too soon junior”. On a serious note car seems great. Charges 5 times faster than my mini and hope your auxiliary battery drain has been sorted. Great trip video!
To be quite honest, this channel has done more for EVs for me than anything else. You guys do a great job at just showing the cars honestly and intelligibly without marketing fuss, overselling it, or underplaying it. Just nice overall.
I agree. Kyle Connor and his team have put together the best EV channel on youtube for people who want more than just a marketing show. This place is full of details and real life experiences.
I think the reason mustang mach-e and ID4 are in 350 charger is because of a lack of knowledge. It's my assumption that they don't know what their vehicles can receive max and think the bigger the better.
Mr Conner is Killing it!!!! Get him his own sub channel on Out of Spec. Call it Out Of Spec EV OG! Great job.
Dave, the ICE comment in your header had me wondering if you actually had met up with an ICE vehicle which had an on-board AC Inverter or an AC generator to bail you out of trouble. That's funny! You were very creative... My first totally battery only EV was a FIAT 500e with approximately 87 miles of range. Even so, I once obtained 98 miles running around town between 45-50 MPH. I was impressed with that range. I bought the car In Spring Hill, Florida, about 25 miles north of Tampa. I live in Lake City, Florida which is approximately 150 miles north, driving mostly on US Highway 41. I had to configure some creative charging routines to make it home before dark. I stopped approximately 45 miles north in Inverness. I arrived at the town square which had two level 2 (free) charge stations. I plugged in and went across the road to a diner and had a hamburger and fries, then returned to the car. I waited about 15 more minutes until the charge was at 82%. That was not enough to get me home, so I had a pre-planned location to reach the little town of Newberry. That location had NO public charging stations. But I had previously joined the "PlugShare" network. It shows public as well as some private locations which allow Level 1 or 2 charging. Since the car only came with a 120V Level 1 unit, I knew that would be too slow. The private home had a Level 2 charger installed, so he had arranged for me to use that one to complete my remaining 52 miles to reach home. I spent almost 2 hours with him, while being entertained by four kids and two dogs! I thanked him and offered ten bucks for his time and generosity, but he would not take any money. He also had a 2016 Chevy Volt (PHEV) which he used for his approximately 50-mile trip to work in Orlando. He worked at a location with Free charging for EVs. So, he used very little gas for his weekly 250 miles of commuting for employment. I bought the Fiat 500e in May 2017 and sold it to a "new car dealer" almost Five years (April 2022) later for exactly what I paid for it! Note: I had already purchased a 2018 blue Chevy Volt Premier in June 2020, so I didn't need two electric vehicles. I also allow private Level 2 charging at my home for urgent or emergency use.
Nice job, Pops! I didn’t think anyone could do road trips as well as Kyle but you did just as good. Keep ‘em coming!
Love this video, it was a real roller coaster of emotions! Even at the low point, you managed to avoid needing a tow truck, so counting everything you learned it was a total win for me. More Kyle’s dad anytime!
Soooo what's the difference between stealing electricity today and stealing gas, back in the 70s? 🤔
Love the Dad videos. And love the music on this one!! Your son’s videos on the ID4 is what prompted me to buy mine. Couldn’t be happier with it.
Moral of the story, try and trust the car’s route planner. I think to truly test an EV the route planner is one of the most important elements. Using ABRP or planning yourself is great, but we can all make errors, I’ve done it! Awesome video, Ioniq 5 is awesome. I will be making a similar trip to Wilmington hitting some of the same stations in my Etron, hopefully it goes smoothly!
The ioniq doesn't have a route planner built in
Amazing video. Got a lot worried when you missed the exit/turn and were rerouted but liked how calm and cool were you. I'm now liking the ioniq 5 alot more. Thank you for this amazing video. Video moments with Bailey were priceless.
Love the stats, it's really good to know the state of charge and time it takes with max rates on these long road trips.
Love seeing Dad in the videos! He always makes things interesting! Keep up the great content Kyle and gang. 😁
Awesome roadtrip video! Very informative in typical Out of Spec style! I hope that everyone who charges in 350kw are more aware of what their cars can pull in. I have my Mach-e First Edition and I would only pull in 350kw if it was the only available station left
How he felt about the Marathon is me with every non-Tesla. “Looks good…eh…doesn’t look that good.”
For anyone watching this video since 2023. The Ioniq 5 added en-route pre-conditioning in one of their updates, so all year models should now be able to do that. It works through the on-board Nav system, and you must select a charger through use of the POI charging station list. If you navigate there any other way, it will not engage. A little icon in the lower left screen appears, indicating it is on.
my opinion is the whole manual "pre-conditioning" the pack thing, and the managing your speed based on expected remaining range thing, is of little real value. is it technically correct ? sure. but, just keep your speed constant (gives you the best efficiency in EV or ICE) and get to the next stop. rewards are just not great enough vs risk.
Wow - just wow! I’m only at the ice machine portion of the video. I feel like I’m watching a documentary film about EV life. Way to turn lemons into lemonade!
Kyle's Dad reminds me so much of my own father. More Kyle's Dad please.
What a journey! Seems like it was a great trip with consistently fast charging sessions. I feel your pain with ID.4 owners always on the 350kW chargers. I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt that all other stations were full when they pulled in.
I wish EA would just make all the stations 350kw capable but split power if there’s multiple cars hooked up at the same time. That way it could manage and adjust the power and people wouldn’t have to worry about which stall they’re pulling into
As a European who’ve never seen an EA station in trial life, how do you distinguish between a 150- and 350 kw station when approaching them? From all videos I’ve seen, they all look the same from som distance where you normally commit to which one to use? It seems a little harsh to fault an average 1st time EV owner to block a 350 kw station with their ID4 if they’re not informed about the car’s charging curve and also can’t spot the difference between the higher- and lower powered chargers.
@@simoningebrand there’s a sticker and sometimes there’s either a sign for the spot or it’s painted on the ground. I don’t think most people would fault a novice EV driver for not realizing. Hopefully over time some awareness will spread or EA will be able to make all the chargers have higher outputs so it wouldn’t matter
I love you had the extension cable!! SMART!!
Great work, Dave. Bailey, too! Two intrepid travelers.
Well sometimes we miss the exit but when you cutting it that close your ingenuity is tested. I like, I am going to sacrifice the ice machine. 👍👍
Oh wow, I was nervous for you in that last 5 miles. Luckily there was a buffer on the battery!
Next should be the West Coast since there's a lot of EVs here (: Great job guys
Super video, learning a lot about EV driving. Ordered an Ioniq 5 and now waiting a half year..for delivery. Please keep posting your vids about this car. Thanks from The Netherlands
I stopped at that Brunswick EA once, ran into a guy in an e-tron, told me his car charged at 500kw and I should plug my ID4 into a 350 so it would charge faster. Some people just have no clue!
Thanks for taking the time to film Dave!
Maybe he confused it with 500 km/h charge speed. 😇
@@abraxastulammo9940 he definitely did not haha. Seemed to kind of live I his own reality. He said he'd had it towed 3x that week because sometimes it's easier to let it run out of juice, get an Uber to where he needs to go and just have his car dropped off for charging at home in his driveway. Definitely had some screws loose.
Just was wondering if you by chance checked with Plugshare when you go that low?
Another great presentation from Kyle's father......professional and very relaxing......keep up the great work !!!!!
Thanks for watching!
@@dconner9 It is my pleasure !!!
42:53 Don't panic, don't panik, OK, Panic!!
44:13 Savage! 🤣
That slammed VW Bus was the coolest car of the whole trip
1:17:53 Supercool
Great job totally enjoyed.
I don’t understand the idea of burning all the energy, i mean if you arrive at the charger with 10%, that’s 10% less to charge, you can get back on the road faster
Your windy section would have been great to plug in ABRP to see what it recommended as you subscription comes with weather data to make adjustments to energy consumption.
If you stayed at that Marathon station long enough, Bailey was going to start answering your questions.
I loved your take on range anxiety. New Ioniq 5 owner here and I'm sure it will come with experience.
While the car charged 115v, I would have been searching as far as I could walk for a 230v outlet to switch to for charging WAY faster.
👍 Great tip for everyone!…always have a mobile charger onboard and in an emergency look for outdoor vending machines. 1.8 million of them in the U. S. ✌️😊
Just poppin in for a 70hr charge at 2am, by my calculations, we’ll get back on the road…..Thursday.
Kyle gave me the confidence to take a bolt Euv from eastern pa to Salt Lake City Utah and back to pa
I’m still not comfortable with any less than ten miles of range as a buffer. That covers wrong turns, missed exits, etc.
Dave, you are selling me on going EV! Thanks. The car's finish is hypnotic.
Kyle, I think your dad deserves an Out of Spec Dad channel... Solid video.
As you are showing in your video, the fun thing about charging at Electrify America is seeing all the different kinds of EVs that stop there. On our recent trip, we saw a Rivian in Bloomington, IL (very near Rivian's factory), EV6s, ID4s, the always beautiful Mustang Mach E, lots of Chevy Bolts, Etrons, and a Porsche Taycan. I'm waiting for my first F150 Lightning sighting@
Can't speak for ABRP on iOS, but on Android it works great for me. I have to add, if you have a way to feed it "live data", it gets very much better. Kinda surprised you don't get to see arrival SoC estimates, as I am pretty sure it did for me last time I went on a "long trip" (only a couple hundred miles, but on a car with only just 2000 miles in a year, that's a long trip)?
People just see the 350 and think it will be faster. They don't know the car is the limiting factor in most cases.
Love the cell phone tower LARGE TREE at the 6.44 mark in the trip.
The dog looks at me the same confusing way.. every.. time.
Just narrate the exit to the EA and you’ll be less likely to miss it. When I just do notices on Waze to cut down on audibles, I have to discipline myself to read the exit number in the pop up notification. Nice to see the OBD on the buffer. Someone had to document it for the books. 😉
I vote for Kyle‘s dad to be the new face of out of spec motoring. He’s so charming and pleasant
Who paid you to say this???? You my friend just made my day. Thx!
Just drove past South of the Border and they advertise EV charging now. Love the content because I would drive most of this rout annually to Rhode Island and I plan on getting the F150 Lightning
Super entertaining!
Best advice make the time of driving from Maine - Washington DC for night time because nj turnpike into GW you will encounter traffic all hrs of the day but it reduces a lot of time driving nights
Paying by minute vs by kwh... Big $ difference. Ioniq 5 LOVES by the minute charging.
You would think that people would know more about their cars. As more and more people get EVs it's going to be very important.
I once had to plug my Zero FX into a random plug to get back home. It charges SUPER slow. I mean at that point, you need to turn off every single thing that could be drawing current in order to have any charge at all. The LCD screens, your phone, even the OBD2 plug you have is taking up precious juice that needs to go to the battery. Every millivolt counts in that situation. And you don't know what other appliances are on that circuit. If that same circuit is powering another appliance on the inside, or some of the lights, you'll trip the circuit breaker when you plug in.
And as long as you're at that gas station, you might as well over inflate your tires, decrease rolling resistance and max out the range of what little juice you have.
Make sure you say that running out of charge was YOUR fault and not the cars...Gotta keep a little more of a buffer to account for missing exits.
Another Captain D's fan here, and Chick-fil-a has very good diet lemonade!
Id4 was plugged in to the 350 because the other ones were being used. Don't think one minute I will not use it. You can wait just as you want me to wait for the slower one.
Agree
That "break" in charging is likely to be balancing the cells? Once they're more equal they can add the power again without overcharging some cells.
Or rather undercharging some cells and being limited by those cells across the whole pack.
You know you have a button on the home charger that will change the amount of charge you can give the car.
Now that you mention it, I do remember reading something about that. O well. A little late for me today though haha. In any event, thanks for the tip and thanks for watching !
States that currently have lowest EA rates by minute.....Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia. Mississippi. Louisiana, Texas, Kentucky, Wisconsin, South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, Kansas, Massachusetts, New Hampshire,
We love Sheetz, we usually stay next to it so we get our breakfast there, every time we go to PA
That car and the EV6 are great. It just needs better built in route planning and battery pre-conditioning before they're really on par with Tesla.
You are a perfect candidate for the eco flow copilot saver
An idea... how about we keeping a stack of polite signs to stick on the 350kw units that ask EV owners if their vehicle doesn't charge over 150kw then please leave this 350kw charger for those that do unless there's no choice remaining. Better yet, hopefully someday the charger manufacturers will start having a notice built in.
I agree with some other posters here that an insecure outlet isn't implicit permission for you to steal electricity from a closed business. Would you have used the bathroom and grabbed a drink too if the door was left unlocked? What would you have done if your charger tripped the breaker and the ice machine stopped running?
You did a great job highlighting the importance of having a plan and sticking to it. Then you refused to slow down until it was basically too late, and let a local small business pay for your carelessness. Use ABRP to plan your stops (even if you don't use the in-car navigation part of it), leave a bigger buffer than 0%, and don't steal power when you didn't plan ahead well enough.
I love a ton of what your channel does, but this video gives EV owners a bad name and encourages people to just "plug in wherever" like electricity is free.
Lots of traffic 😂😂 yes, on a Friday at 10am new york city area it is pretty bad. I've come to dislike driving in the NYC due to all of the traffic and crazy drivers.
Well... "man's got to know his limitations". Lesson learned.
I hope you paid the store for that energy.
This was a good video. Kyle’s dad did an great job. However he made a costly mistake letting that battery get that low. He should have kept that 10% buffer. He was literally stranded in one of the most dangerous cities in SC. I’m glad he’s okay but as an EV owners you have to be cautious about these things.
ARRP is actually very good and precise if you put in all the data an allowed live watching over your car soc. It’s much better calculating weather, topography and then so. I use it in my Tesla and it never more off than a 1-2% when arriving destination. But it requires that all data is correctly put in. And this changes only if you have extra weight with you. Everything else is calculated. I used it up against teslas nav and it’s as good and Sometimes a bit better.
The video of the five cars driving from Fort Collins to Las Vegas was much more informative regarding possible charging strategies. The Kyle charging strategy works better for someone with more experience. I think that we have to set an example of acceptable behavior (stealing electricity not acceptable) and I always make a point of talking with the Bolt, id.4, etc. owners who are icing the 350's. Many of the EV drivers are ignorant of the basic principals, we can use the opportunity to share knowledge (as Kyle always does) with those with less experience.
It’s not stealing if you don’t get caught or can maliciously target like the government does.
My first car had a choke I could pull. Why can’t even ev have a “precondition battery” button. I sure could use it in my Tesla as most fast chargers I have used outside the supercharger network here in the EU, wasn’t in the navigation.
The Taycan has that ability.
28:16 Ah, that is why it is called HeadS-up display 😅
Nice video.....my family will be trying that journey in our Ionic 5 limited as was from Buffalo NY.....🤞🤞
Surprised you didn’t blow the breaker with your car and the ice maker on that outlet. You made it. Great attitude! I see where Kyle gets it. 😆
The ice chest is insulated and likely wasn’t running active cooling.
Wow. I never get so obsessed about refusing my diesel. I'm missing out...
Dave on 1.75x playback speed matches Kyle's normal speaking cadence.
South of the Border-Sunoco West
CCS/SAE, CHAdeMOShell Recharge150 kW
Nice work!
What is the app you are using to monitor the state of charge?
I actually was at this MD EA station this week. Bought an Ionic 5 from a dealer in NY and drove it down to NC...
Auto-steer might turn off when the lane markers cannot be read.
7:11-7:25 was that NYC? Also, nice video! I love electric cars. I hope to get a model 3 one day but the ionic 5 is nice 👍👍
That was stressful
Out of spec Dad brilliant thinking
Now it's real world situations like this that makes me want to get an EV
Damn Kyle, you have changed! Lol
Enjoyable video! Urge Dad-of-Kyle to avoid the 0% SoC stops though!! I've done AZ~Cape Cod~AZ a few times in our Tesla Y and have found a hard floor of 15% SoC is a pretty good idea!!
What is that car scanner app? how2get?
Awesome video!
Why do you not use the route planning in the car? It makes it seem like an average person can’t get in the car and road trip.
Simple lessen, drive slow at the start of a leg and driver faster at the end. Build a buffer and burn it up at the end.
It's Pooler, GA, not "Pool" 🤣
Thanks for the info. Living in Savannah and charging only at Pooler, I never knew the EA charger has different prices.
Also, is it hard to wash off all the bugs from that matte paint?
Yes…. I knew that! Apologies… Thx for watching
@@dconner9 great vlogs as always