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  • @notyou777
    @notyou777 ปีที่แล้ว +483

    showing this to my peers to show that my 17th run up throw is indeed a "tactical and well-thought-out neutral option"

    • @I_recommend_suicide
      @I_recommend_suicide ปีที่แล้ว +72

      "he wouldn't do it _again_ " is the funniest yomi layer, change my mind

    • @garethcf1016
      @garethcf1016 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "Hey as long as it works" - kyle, probably

    • @raymondmcveety9375
      @raymondmcveety9375 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If it’s still working you can’t stop

  • @nicky7685
    @nicky7685 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    When he said “why’d you get grabbed from full screen by Ky Kiske” I felt that

  • @Nyuu3
    @Nyuu3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This is the most Faust main looking Faust main I've ever seen.

  • @Krackatoa
    @Krackatoa  ปีที่แล้ว +210

    I probably produced 8 scripts total and 20 minutes of full video before eventually making this video. I learned a lot, but also realized that neutral is hard to explain in under 10 minutes.

    • @ImagineThereAreTwoFsHere
      @ImagineThereAreTwoFsHere ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The effort paid off, because this is really good!

    • @vexzel5550
      @vexzel5550 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Loved the video. I subscribed and saved it for later.
      Hey krackatoa, I want to start a guilty gear channel how to play, tournaments, and mod making channel.
      Can I ask, what programs do you use to make your videos? Or can you guide me on the process of how a video is made or what to look up like a tutorial on how to create stuff for videos? I want to be professional like you and reward my audience with quality content.
      Some things I'd like to ask on how to create are the
      -animated background
      -Subtitles/text
      -the drawing of the arrow that made the triangle in the explanation
      -the measurement line between characters
      I don't know what to look up to start so I thought I'd ask here
      And if needed to Ill try to contact you in a direct message or email
      Thank you
      And happy new year

    • @Krackatoa
      @Krackatoa  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vexzel5550 Video editing: Sony Vegas or Adobe Premiere.
      Images/Graphics: Photoshop, Google Images (then imported into Premiere), or made directly in Premiere.
      Background: Made it in AfterEffects but could have did it in Premiere/Vegas I'm sure.

    • @philovermyer6166
      @philovermyer6166 ปีที่แล้ว

      But sir Krack, what if my dumb brain needs 40 minutes of explanation of neutral o.o

  • @Nooctae
    @Nooctae ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I've known about the Machaboo Triangle for years now, and I come back to it anytime I feel a bit lost in my neutral. This document is a god send.

  • @gileloldug8984
    @gileloldug8984 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    honey new krackatoa just dropped

  • @boman1905
    @boman1905 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I can't wait to be watching a clip compilation and see Ky run in and grab and have the video cut to this man saying "Why'd you get grabbed full screen by Ky Kiske?"

  • @Necromancerishness
    @Necromancerishness ปีที่แล้ว +97

    He just. Doesn't. Miss. Absolute banger video. A funny and concise script, tackling fundamentals with easy to understand examples without getting bogged down in details. Clean editing on engaging content that leaves the consumer the tools needed to grow/better his own gameplay. I think many content creators 1000 times your size should ENVY how easy you make it all look.

  • @MajoraZ
    @MajoraZ ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Sajam brought me here: I never thought of neutral as it's own sort of mixup triangle like this, but it totally is! Great vid.... To go on a tangent a bit, Pokken is a title that's really neutral focused not enough people appreciate: A lot of people view Pokken as an arena fighter due to the Phase Shift mechanic, but in reality the game still has unique movelists, cancels, just-frames, a height system (more on that below) like any other traditional FG in the 2d phase, and It's best to think of that as Pokken's core. The Phase shifting acts as a anti-infinite mechanic that forces a return to neutral in the Field/3d phase (which itself is sort of an added buffer layer of neutral). But most importantly, since the shift from 2d to 3d is dictated by the hidden PSP guage filling up (3d > 2d shifts happen on any heavy hit, hence why it's more a added layer of neutral then anything else), and different moves will add more or less points (or even remove points) to that guage, iit also acts as a anti-flowcharting and adaptation rewarding mechanic and a sort of resource management system:
    At a high level, you'll be altering your combo composition to end combos right when the PSP guage is maxed out, so your combos aren't interrupted by a shift. Also, sometimes you'll intentionally go for a lower damage combo or one that's less safe etc to intentionally either built less PSP, keeping the other player in the corner and under pressure in the hopes of winning another interaction for higher long term damage instead of cashing out (so sort of like a reset), causing a shift and allowing them to get back into neutral; or one that builds MORE PSP to shift faster, if YOU wanna get back to neutral and out of pressure faster or to get the meter and health regen causing a shifts gives.
    The way the game's height system works also encourages neutral and more adaptive play as well: Height in Pokken exists not as a way for offensive players to bypass blocking, but rather as a way for either player to bypass and punish other moves in their active frames. Think like how 2H's in DBFZ can bypass and punish aerials, except like half the moves in the game have invulnerability to moves of specific height states, and there's 8 height states rather then the usual 3 or 4. In practice, this gives a defensive player more opportunities to get reversals or break back to neutral, but still retains height mixups, in that if you expect the other player is gonna use a move of a given height (say on wakeup, or as a meaty, or in the middle of a blockstring, or in neutral), you can try to use a move that bypasses it to punish, but they know you can do that, so you still have the mixup mindgames there.
    In practice, both the Phase shift mechanic and the way height works means there's way more chances to get back to Neutral and time spent in Neutral in Pokken then some other titles. There's also not as many "win neutral/end footsies" tools (though there are absolutely some)in characters kits, but part of that is just because Pokken is slower paced. Bottom line is Pokken is sick and more people should play it.

  • @MundoSD
    @MundoSD ปีที่แล้ว +47

    You are my favourite Canadian Faust content creator who also manages Dustloop out of everyone out there.

    • @fazehank5311
      @fazehank5311 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is a very small niche

  • @2centstudios
    @2centstudios ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Faust players are Daisuke's gift to Strive.

  • @metallovaboo
    @metallovaboo ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like how you explained the neutral triangle in a guilty gear frame. I really implemented this when I was learning Tekken 6. This is a great video that any guilty gear player should watch.

  • @magicalgirl1296
    @magicalgirl1296 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your presentation is immaculate.

  • @Integral_RoA
    @Integral_RoA ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like how he mentioned that he didn’t have time to factor in risk reward into the video and I’m over here like “high reward? Cool! What does high risk mean?”

  • @RaveDX
    @RaveDX ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A good solid way to explain neutral, which is very complex and hard to grasp concept. Great video.

  • @MakoEffect
    @MakoEffect ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And then I binge watched all Krack's videos, thanks for enlightenment and entertainment coiled in one beautiful bundle.

  • @hyperventalated
    @hyperventalated ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You the man, man. Been really trying to take the advice in your videos to heart and it's helping a lot. We're very fortunate to have you

  • @ggpt9641
    @ggpt9641 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clinging to "look at how reactions and adjustments play into decision making." What I needed to hear the most.

  • @CourageousAmy_
    @CourageousAmy_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i know this is a lot to ask after you've made it so clear how much effort this video alone took, but i would LOVE to see/hear you talk about/explain Risk/Reward. i think you teach so well and it's a topic i can never quite get

    • @Krackatoa
      @Krackatoa  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      On the surface, it's straightforward: What do you get for being right vs. wrong in a given situation. Doing that analysis can be quite involved. There are little things that can lead a player to overvalue or undervalue a particular outcome.

    • @CourageousAmy_
      @CourageousAmy_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Krackatoa how are you so good at this man

    • @Krackatoa
      @Krackatoa  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CourageousAmy_ 1500 hours of skullgirls

  • @machinatingminotaur6285
    @machinatingminotaur6285 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will lose five sets in a row to never get grabbed by the kyle. I am churning my command grab at all times

  • @Joltte
    @Joltte ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the best videos ive seen explaining the concept in an easy to understand way. Keep it up!

  • @Ceeington
    @Ceeington ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Holy shit new Krackatoa tutorial and right before the end of the year, we have been blessed

  • @formidiguy4010
    @formidiguy4010 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally, truly 100% useful video. Seriously this is the best guide i have ever seen, not just a fighter guide, but in general just the best guide in general I've seen in my life. Instant sub, great work

  • @luigi7894
    @luigi7894 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been looking forward to this video, and it was worth it. You enrich us with so much knowledge.

  • @TehRealWeegee
    @TehRealWeegee ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Extremely concise, straightforward video that's still funny, and gives actionable examples to work off of while I think of how to apply these ideas to Testament

  • @SSSqage
    @SSSqage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely a Holiday gift of a video. Thank you Mr. Krackatoa.

  • @businessgoose6863
    @businessgoose6863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    god this guy is so menacing he could be a JoJo villain

  • @DemBadassBrows
    @DemBadassBrows ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the exceptionally well made video Krackatoa ❤️❤️

  • @0g00n8
    @0g00n8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honey, wake up, new Krackatoa vid justt dropped

  • @GWANGLORD
    @GWANGLORD ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Much respect for all the knowledge you drop Krack! Cheers & have Happy New Year!

  • @splurmpy
    @splurmpy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Babe wake up new Krackatoa video just dropped

  • @quackduckpics
    @quackduckpics ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love you krackk! another banger 😎

  • @akaj2013
    @akaj2013 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting. This is REALLY good.

  • @Manglet762
    @Manglet762 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see Lindybeige branching out to the greatness of fighting games.

  • @Nupeguy16
    @Nupeguy16 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing breakdown

  • @MagnumbRevere
    @MagnumbRevere ปีที่แล้ว +2

    common educational krackatoa W

  • @lozganon64
    @lozganon64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love it, great stuff man

  • @Luunyby
    @Luunyby ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel very neutral about this video.

  • @OD78891
    @OD78891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Krackatoa is back, baby! Always appreciate your videos and fighting knowledge!

  • @TSPIN
    @TSPIN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is a perfect closure of 2022, great video, was worth the wait
    2023, we are applying this Neutral Triangle Strategy (not to be confused with the game Triangle Strategy by Nintendo). Happy new years to you as well and see you at Frosty

  • @reeceulf
    @reeceulf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hell yes, dude. CONTENT.

  • @krokistube4702
    @krokistube4702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Why is Prince Harry teaching me guilty gear?”

  • @evo2d469
    @evo2d469 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you professor

  • @Stryfe52
    @Stryfe52 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Guess…
    Preemptive>Establish>Passive
    Defense>Attack>React

    • @Krackatoa
      @Krackatoa  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So many ways to word it. This is the 5th set of words I chose, lol

  • @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447
    @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this was such an awesome video! yeah, it's a lot to take in, but i really think that you simplified it as much as you could. i think most people will be able to get it within 2-4 viewings

  • @faust_yt7820
    @faust_yt7820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BIGGER SCISSORS

  • @Aleph12
    @Aleph12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, I'll need to watch this video many many times in order to get all the info but this is amazing information! Thank you man, you have another sub

  • @firstnamelastname6324
    @firstnamelastname6324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Krack!

  • @psyonicpanda
    @psyonicpanda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Instructions unclear, I'm DPing.
    Nice video :)

  • @raivin7172
    @raivin7172 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is incredible

  • @dababy7400
    @dababy7400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cant wait for the faust patch video

    • @Krackatoa
      @Krackatoa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I worked 6 hours on one and then gave up because it was kind of boring.

  • @Swift640
    @Swift640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy shit this video is good thank you so much

  • @acaracaraorange7685
    @acaracaraorange7685 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude thank you for posting this. The way you presented it made it very easy to implement it into my gameplay & I'm already seeing the value.

  • @TheCatalystvid
    @TheCatalystvid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, good mix of entertainment and education with good humor.

  • @hhu_uhh
    @hhu_uhh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    had to watch this video at least 20 times in 6 months to fully understand it. I think i'm finally at a place where I could effectively explain each sentence in detail to someone else which i guess means I get it. Time to game.

  • @DoctorGalactor
    @DoctorGalactor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fabled Neutral mp4 finally arrives

  • @gagler4912
    @gagler4912 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OH HERE IT IS

  • @GcYoshi13
    @GcYoshi13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great concise video.

  • @SaeWhatJed
    @SaeWhatJed ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The legend finally did it! Great Video!

  • @pontiffsulyvahn23
    @pontiffsulyvahn23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have been blessed

  • @Darches
    @Darches ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't even play GG (yet!?) but this helps it all make sense. Quality video that likely applies to all fighting games.

  • @Shearsss
    @Shearsss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent vid Mr. Crack

  • @cawcawmeowmeow
    @cawcawmeowmeow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heard about this from Sajam. I play Brawlhala and tried some of these ideas out and it changed my game. You were able to explain this so well.

  • @GenericSoda
    @GenericSoda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since reading Machaboo's article I've always called the three pillars of the neutral Reactive, Proactive, and Preemptive play because of how clunky the Japanese terms can be. I can't say whether I'll change my terminology because of this video, but this is a fantastic visual guide for Machaboo's article. I'll come back to this often.

  • @matoshiro1146
    @matoshiro1146 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a good video!

  • @voidashe
    @voidashe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wake up babe new krackatoa vid

  • @nozushii
    @nozushii ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video, it was very helpful

  • @bestosensei
    @bestosensei ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible video man.

  • @jvukovic4
    @jvukovic4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro just explained the fighting game shonen system

  • @user-uy4pd4qg7g
    @user-uy4pd4qg7g ปีที่แล้ว +1

    video is sooo gooooooooood

  • @pinkt1t5
    @pinkt1t5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for this.

  • @someguymalleth
    @someguymalleth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally the trio is complete

  • @snowshow6207
    @snowshow6207 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was just playing a long set as Sol against my friend's Faust who was struggling to deal with establishing play by leaning too hard on passive reactions, great timing

  • @TaraRaeDev
    @TaraRaeDev ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thrillho was so good back in the day.

  • @Its_Toko
    @Its_Toko 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have watched this video 10 times, all hail the Krack

  • @ratyyy
    @ratyyy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good video!!!!! thanks!!

  • @tringythemudkip
    @tringythemudkip ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was very simple to follow for a beginner like me. Thank you.

  • @Ali-fs7ze
    @Ali-fs7ze ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video.

  • @DjOneOne
    @DjOneOne ปีที่แล้ว

    the power of the blue check quality

  • @JackKahunaLagunaFGC
    @JackKahunaLagunaFGC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a very informative video. I'm highly confident in my strive play, but going from FG to FG, neutral is always this obnoxiously simple but complicated state of the game. Kinda the beauty of a fighter lies in the fact that devs pretty much just provide a stage, boxes, and mechanics, then let the players figure out what works. The sandbox nature is fun but DAMN Ram/Nago/Chaos exists. Anyways lol never seen your content but I'm glad that of all videos, an analysis with the thumbnail Neutral.mp4 was what caught my attention. Happy fighting.
    Just an edit: Would love to discuss or play sets anytime, if you have any interest. Thanks again!

  • @Siyko
    @Siyko ปีที่แล้ว

    I learn a lot when I decide that I'm going to play a match very passively. I just wait again and again and try to beat stuff by reacting to it, and then play against my predictions of what they will do. I'm basically taking the establishing play and putting it in my pocket for a match. It's very refreshing and I urge everyone to try it

  • @BotBoyOS
    @BotBoyOS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The amount of run-up grabs I get hit with tilts me so hard
    I know it's because I play a semi defensive spin-happy Anji but on the other hand people who think I only spin also love running straight into round start 5H so I can't complain
    Good video, very informative

  • @HitBoxArcade
    @HitBoxArcade ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SCISSORS. ALWAYS.

  • @ShadyHitchhiker
    @ShadyHitchhiker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great
    You are great

  • @Cassapphic
    @Cassapphic ปีที่แล้ว

    This video had a new meaning after a gio player I've played a few times now has the baiken vs gio matchup primarily breakdown neutral into who can catch the opponent either slipping in a good approach before it can be checked, or sticking out a big poke to check the approach, because of both gio's really far moving step dash and me presenting kabari as an attempt to push her out of that range

  • @publickip
    @publickip ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:01 got me very good because my first thought was also just Ram

  • @tarkuslee7278
    @tarkuslee7278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is your best video.

  • @christianpr5
    @christianpr5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kracktoa, nice vid! I think putting the link to the dustloop page with the document in the description would be great.

  • @chaotixspark7934
    @chaotixspark7934 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is also very descriptive of Uniclr play as well. It's not uncommon to see two really good players down back against each other for a full 3 seconds, waiting for the opponent to do something since blocking is so strong.

  • @carlosd8029
    @carlosd8029 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks!!!!

  • @ryujinnchair
    @ryujinnchair 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BIGGER SCISSORS!!!

  • @pietro7121
    @pietro7121 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your vids, recently started playing Fighting Games and you are a true inspiration, when are you dropping the Faust season 3 tech?

  • @arghscuffelbut3226
    @arghscuffelbut3226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how he doesn't blink while facing the camera and cuts when he can't keep it up

    • @Krackatoa
      @Krackatoa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not it my eyes are just very moist.

  • @ShoTV
    @ShoTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always appreciate a good Simpsons reference - great video!

    • @Krackatoa
      @Krackatoa  ปีที่แล้ว

      bonestorm enjoyers rise up

  • @m.czandogg9576
    @m.czandogg9576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Algorithm engagement

  • @T_Jester
    @T_Jester ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos save me from being beat up in floor 8. Now, i only get beat up in floor 9 :D

  • @aomafura3374
    @aomafura3374 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Then the triangle becomes complicated when a character isn't very good at one and therefore has to make the enemy aware of the weak option to get to the good stuff.

    • @Krackatoa
      @Krackatoa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct! I would say Faust isn't that strong at Establishing Play in Strive, but in +R and Xrd he doesn't have that weakness.

  • @user-tc5qc4ql8m
    @user-tc5qc4ql8m ปีที่แล้ว

    this guy has ze frank energy. which is good, because ze frank is a fantastic speaker and presenter

  • @Kazami-Yuuji
    @Kazami-Yuuji ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tien approved

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    :0 ... Good video