I don't feel triggered. Every actor in Marvel is only able to appear in 9 movies. SJ: 9 (Iron Man 2, The Avengers, Winter Soldier, Age Of Ultron, Civil War, Avengers Infinity War, Avengers Endgame, and Black Widow) RDJ: 9 (Iron Man 1, Iron Man 2, Avengers, Iron Man 3, Age Of Ultron, Civil War, Homecoming, and Avengers 3 and 4) CE: 9 (First Avenger, The Avengers, The Dark World, Winter Soldier, Age Of Ultron, Civil War, Homecoming, Avengers 3 and 4) So they had to plan a way to let them have a demise since they're contracts had expired. SJ: Scarlet Johansson RDJ: Robert Downey. Jr CE: Chris Evans
I think Strange let Tony sacrifice himself because if he let him survive Tony would want to build another like Ultron being or something much worst that would mean trouble for the world and the Avengers. Another theory I have is that Kang the Conqueror had something to do with it. He probably knew the out come of Thanos plans and he let Tony take him out while also taking himself too. Kang probably knew Tony was a threat to him and his plan to conquer the world, that’s why he needed him out of the picture.
*So this has been addressed although not well-known: even if the avengers had defeated Thanos on Titan that would still not yield a better future for the universe for coming threats (Kang, Galactus, etc). Apparently, the stones needed to be destroyed & Avengers had to discover time travel for time-based villains like Kang.*
He figured he was gonna go off do a bunch of other big movies starting with Dr Doolittle remake 😆 that didnt work out too well so I have a feeling we will see RDJ back sooner than we think.
@Damian Wayne Robin Mabye Dr.Strange works for the TVA and he knew there was only one way things could go or no theyre timeline would be destroyed he was just trying to protect the timeline
I think Dr. Strange knew about Kang. So he may have allowed the scenario to be played out because a bigger threat was coming. This could explain why Dr. Strange 2 is part of Phase 4.
also two things one ; strange knows that the TVA would mess around if something else happened two (this is my theory):Strange may have seen that the avengers were feeling weak and werent very confident, so he may not have altered with tonys death to remind the avengers that they have to stay strong
What if this was the only way that their universe doesn't get pruned, because morbius said that everything that happened was meant to happen exactly how it happened
@@williampaulsinghharika2627 the only reason Loki was able to take down the TVA was because of morbius, so if by some chance endgame happened differently the TVA would prune them immediately with no trial just straight up pruned so I doubt even with Tony and Steven working together would do anything
@@kwakhopani1798 the whole TVA is a fake game by Kang the conqueror. You really think Kang has any chance against the Avengers? A single female loki variant with zero ressources duped them since she was a child.
If Dr. Strange really wanted Tony dead, he would have just let Thanos kill Tony on Titan. Tony's life or death doesnt really matter one way or another to Strange. Dr. Strange was only concerned with saving the most amount of life and purging the most amount of bad life that is Thanos.
That not it at all,if tony died on titan then everything would go how it would but there will be a stuck at time machine and even if they tried and did it,who would do the heroic sacrifice at the end it would captain america and he is already a great hero so he would get all of credit and tony would be like not a main character and fans would hate the film
If they beat Thanos in Infinity War, they wouldn’t have discovered Time Travel, made King Thor, The Scarlett Witch, Loki (causing Wanda to hear her kids & Kang - leading to Iron Lad forming the Young Avengers), and Valentina forming the Dark Avengers/Thunderbolts. The Ancient One said Strange is the best of us. Dr Strange knows everything that’s going to happen in his life. He said that he will do whatever it takes to get rid of the biggest threat the universe faces in the moment.
Hear me out, guys. I have a theory. What if the reason why Dr. Strange chose this option was because he’s just preventing Tony Stark from turning into a villainous threat in the future? One that can control and manipulate timelines. 🤔 Remember, they discovered the secret of time travel during the events of Endgame. And, if they managed to permanently defeat Thanos and his army without sacrificing Tony, what do you think Tony would do with the time machine they invented? I think he would eventually publicize their discovery of time travel and make it accessible to everyone. Which means, he could also use it to correct the errors and mistakes in the life, that includes the death of his parents. And, the only way Tony could prevent their deaths is to go back in time and kill Bucky Barnes before Bucky has the chance to do so. His parents might’ve lived for a few more decades because of that, but it would definitely put a strain in his future relationship with Captain America if Cap manages to learn the truth. Because eventually, he will. And, that would cause a rift between Tony and Cap and make the Civil War happen way earlier than expected. This could also give an opportunity for any extraterrestrial/multiversal threats like Thanos or Kang to conquer Earth and the whole universe pretty much sooner than anyone could prepare for. 😕 Or, what if Tony decides to use the time machine to go back deeper to cut off the source of why Bucky became Winter Soldier? What if he decides to go back in 1940s MCU Earth and kill Captain America or destroy the “Super Soldier” program itself? I mean, it’s the main reason why the Soviet Union experimented on Bucky when they captured him, to make him their version of a “super soldier”. If Tony decides to end it like that, who do you think will stop Red Skull or the Nazi Germany from conquering the whole Earth? Unfortunately, Steve Rogers was the only “superhero” that time, and if he dies or the program shuts down, the whole world will fall in Nazi/Hydra’s hands. And, there will be nobody that can stop them. 😐 As much as a lot of people hated the idea of letting Tony Stark die in Endgame, I think it’s a better option for Dr. Strange to pick than letting a lot people in their world suffer in the long run because of Tony’s selfish nature. 😕
DOCTOR STRANGE MCU SAGA: DOCTOR STRANGE THOR: RAGNAROK AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR AVENGERS: ENDGAME SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS
Doctor Strange didn’t tell him that he would die because then it wouldn’t happen. Which means if he told Stark Thanos would win again and the Universe would have been destroyed.
Let me get this right… Strange knew he’d be dusted for 5 years and wait for Stark to invent time travel to bring him back. Just to kill him? I’m not buying it
Yes that's true. His job as a Sorcecer Supreme is the Protection of the Natural Timeline. Strange is above The Ancient One. Remember when she gives Hulk the Time Stone she's trusting Strange 5 years later. Cause she's actually fighting the Chitari in New York. Great how they put this all together.
Strange is almost as powerful as the scarlet witch when he has the time stone. He's close even without it but the stone puts him nearly there. What I don't get is how he can control time and still jive with the TVA and their mission. Something doesn't add up with them. I think they exist in the quantum realm and bring people there for trials.
Really, RDJ was costing Disney too much: Research as to how much he was making off the movies he was in( pre- RDJ, Marvel/ Disney were extremely stingy with sharing the wealth with contracts. RDJ was brilliant on betting on himself by taking a percentage/ backend deal and made pay better for others( research how much less everyone else made at first).
@@Lelow I know but I'm talking about the futures where he was physically killed by Thanos on Titan or on the Avengers compound in Endgame or even some where he wasn't dusted but then died trying to bring the other half back
@@LiveBowie ohhh my bad but in a timeline where he did die I think it would still be the end of everything as then the only protector of the sanctum and their reality would be Wong
Dr strange was right, there was only one path to success against Thanos because the TVA were busy pruning all variant timelines so that only one is left- regardless of how many possible futures Strange might have seen, eventually those timelines all cease to exist. Only the ‘sacred’ timeline was ever viable at that pre-multiverse point.
I think of it more like the "What if?" Series where Dr. Strange tried to save Christine, but she inevitably dies so that Strange would seek answers in the Mystic Arts and become the Sorcerer Supreme to stop Dormammu. In this case, letting Tony sacrifice himself may have been the only outcome where the snap was reversed and the universe was restored. He could've tried to save Tony, but he could've have set motions in place where something bad happens after Tony was saved where the universe couldn't be saved. This is only my theory. Maybe there could've been a way to save Tony, but since Strange did let it happen according to his vision, I think it might have been the only way.
The problem I see is, Strange saw over 15 million outcomes and from that 15 million is only one ending in a win... why did the TVA don't show up? Yes, the Avengers time heist was part of the sacred timeline, but why saw Strange other outcomes?
@@superevolvedshinamalgamleo8168 the tva is the time variant authority, if someone messes up the marvel timeline they will exist in every timeline to stop chaos, but only if it is to extreme levels like COMPLETELY changing the timeline.But the tva isnt involved in the infinity saga and they shouldnt.
I am thinking that it goes like this. Doctor Strange most likely knows about the TVA and Kang the conqueror. If tony had not sacrificed himself, Thanos would not be dead, which would probably create a problem in the sacred timeline big enough for Kang to interfere. Doctor Strange would definitely not want Kang to interfere so to stop Kang from interfering he let Tony Die which, as much as I hate, seems like the better option.
U R right bro according to Comics Dr.Strange has done a lot of Time travel nearly upto the origin of Universe it's a long story btw, but whatever is done by Dr.Strange will always be right❤️
Doctor Strange is the Sorcerer Supreme and works to save the very nature of our reality itself on a level no mortal can truly comprehend on a daily basis. He makes impossible decisions regularly and sacrifices more than almost any other hero constantly. Most of the time his life is a tormented Hell. He can be seen as cold, uncaring, and heartless but his actions literally hold together the fabric of our entire existence on multiple levels. If he decided that Tony Stark had to be lost in order for life to move forward he had his reasons. He viewed over sixteen million possible scenarios and came to the conclusion that the way things went down in Endgame was the only acceptable conclusion to the events unfolding. Frankly as painful as the loss of losing Tony is, I would trust Doctor Strange's judgement pretty much over anyone else's in any given situation. And yes I am aware that his actions in the next Spider-Man film seem highly questionable and rather out of character... Either that is not really Doctor Stephen Strange, or again, he has his reasons.
Dr. Strange said that because Tony needed to go through with it. Otherwise, no dice. This was their only option to stop Thanos, and restore the universe.
Nope,it’s meant to happen,if it isn’t...tva would just prune their timeline,Tony is meant to die on that one,he didn’t sacrifised,well I mean he did but he didn’t just died for Strange’s sake,plus he doesn’t care if he’s going to die,if he’s going to die,he’s meant to die(BASICALLY,IF TONY IS STILL ALIVE,TVA WILL CONFISCATE THE STONES AND PUT HIM IN THE ASYLUM INSIDE TVA)
Well, but then he could've let tony die on Titan and then make a strategic retreat to Wakanda. Perhaps it was something more. TVA: It would probably take less than 14 million possibilities to figure out the right outcome the TVA wanted. What doctor strange saw was possibly the copy of the sacred timeline.
Tony : I'mma make ultron with the mind stone Tony : I'mma steal and rename my employees hard work BARF Strange: Tony has to die. Now I just have to the right future
It makes sense in a sad way that Tony basically needed to step out of the spotlight so Spider-Man could take the mantle since spidey is after all the Marvel Comics flagship character.
The future that strange saw was the only option that leaded to the avengers winning. The Another thing is that if Tony died then the avengers would have taken a longer time period to figure out time travel makeing that five years gap even longer. let's just say that Doctor strange saw more than one future were they win out of 14,000,605, and then still he chose the one were Tony dies so why didn't he just let thanos kill him on Titan then just give up the time stone that was keeping a lot of people off-of earth's door step, that's because Tony had to span his fingers to save the universe. dr strange does only protect earth he protect's the entire time line. And if Tony lived (which we all would have loved) then he would have retired from being iron Man so he would stop creating new suites and live out he's remaining days not in a metel suite and causeing problems to the world. Also vision he also had to die to set in motion a whole new saga.
I don't think he was trying to get iron man to sacrifice him self cuz when he was speaking with Wong he was asking if there were more ppl to help with the fight against thanos
Strange did not see defeating Thanos as winning. He wanted to defeat the stones so nobody else could use them. The only way to do that was to let Thanos win so he would destroy them.
There is something that proves this, Thanos compared himself with Tony, both cursed and capable of destruction. It's poetic now that I see it like that.
Love iron man love Dr. Strange (which whom is my favorite hero hands down. ) we know that strange seen billions of possibilities and we’re sure in one of those alternate time lines strange stopped him but in doing so Thanos still succeeds. We know the only timeline that succeeds is Tony completing the snap. Its not only logical it’s explained over and over. Also Doctor Strange trained in the ancient arts and the Strange of Earth 616 is also fully aware of mistakes made in the past that can change who you are in the future. He would have seen himself in Tony (in a way) and would have seen beyond the past mistakes of Tony. It would be completely out of character for him to want to allow Tony to die for his own personal reasons. He let Tony die because he HAD too. End of story. This is a silly theory not based in cannon at all no was it the reason of the directors choice to include strange watching as Tony fulfilled his “fate” Strange would have to be out of character , disregard his teachings and so much more for this to be true. It’s a FAR Reach!
In our current timeline, there are no stones. It was obviously seen by Dr. Strange that after he gives the stones to Thanos he will use them and destroy them eventually. And as we know through the Ancient one's theory, without a single stone reality can branch into a chaos. On top of all that Strange just did something (not good I suppose) with the reality. I think not only is it because of Loki bc he caused a nexus event by escaping in the past from his own timeline. But also more bc of no more infinity stones and bc of Dr. Strange's spell that the Multiverse is collapsing into chaos.
But dr. strange is a very smart person, so he could've realized other ways of winning would have people stay alive, like natasha and tony. Things could've worked out if they used something like the sokovia accords to make sure someone more smart and responsible could supervise what tony and other avengers did so accidents like ultron wouldn't happen again.
Idk. Now I think, if Tony was super smart. So smart he made his suit able to absorb the stones from thanos, not forcefully take them. But why didn't Tony think about the radiation from stones and try and protect himself
In an interview with Rdj he said that mark 81 wasn't designed to save tony like all other ironman armours...it was designed to do the ultimate sacrifice....and well we all know what happened next
Did Doctor Strange make sure that Rhodey was the main character of the Armor Wars TV Show instead of Tony Stark? Does Rhodey have the skills of a mechanic to fix the War Machine Armor by himself?
Well he isn't responsible for his death in the first place so.... And also Spidey spent some time with Strange, so after Tony, he's the best father figure ( Happy is too but he's a normal person)
We all know that the Illuminati existed in Ironman 2. So strange had to of known tony. Also means tony had to of known some other members or the Illuminati. If this is true then strange knew that tony had some kind of insurance policy in the event of his death and strange just hasn’t shared that information yet. Or at least the mcu hasn’t yet
This is all wrong. Strange saw many ways that the avengers winning but, only one way where the TVA didn’t prune the time line. There’s no free will this was all planned by kang.
"In the grand calculus of the multiverse, their sacrifice means infinitely more than their lives." - Doctor Strange, Spider Man No Way Home 2021 We can expect that Strange will do anything to keep everything in order, even if it means sacrificing someone's life.
Dr Strange may be a neurosurgeon which makes him seem uncaring, but he has repeatedly stated to the ancient one he will not kill and chooses not to use dark magic to extend his life.
If they had the balls to make strange the villain of Spider-Man and his own sequel movie. Would be one of the best cinematic twists in cinema history. Would be incredible especially with how powerful he is. And the actor does great as him. Would be a top tier villain. And for story purposes could just say down the road Mephisto had control of him or somethin to bring him back good
Dr Strange knew there was only one outcome and he also knew Tony would agree to it because Tony felt guilty for what he did, plus Tony wanted to win @ All cost...
Just like a wise man once said , " Either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain " Nonetheless Tony is and will always be the goat We love you 3000 ❣️
Wait so idk if i'm missing something but i remember hearing that dr strange has to die in order to reset each one of his trips into one of the possible future outcomes, and if there was only 1 outcome where thanos loses... doesn't that mean dr strange knows everything thats gonna happen up to his death now?
Do you think Doctor Strange saw a better future? Or do you believe this is the Avengers' only option?
I think Endgame happened becuz for the TVA's sacred timeline!!!!
I don't feel triggered. Every actor in Marvel is only able to appear in 9 movies.
SJ: 9 (Iron Man 2, The Avengers, Winter Soldier, Age Of Ultron, Civil War, Avengers Infinity War, Avengers Endgame, and Black Widow)
RDJ: 9 (Iron Man 1, Iron Man 2, Avengers, Iron Man 3, Age Of Ultron, Civil War, Homecoming, and Avengers 3 and 4)
CE: 9 (First Avenger, The Avengers, The Dark World, Winter Soldier, Age Of Ultron, Civil War, Homecoming, Avengers 3 and 4)
So they had to plan a way to let them have a demise since they're contracts had expired.
SJ: Scarlet Johansson
RDJ: Robert Downey. Jr
CE: Chris Evans
Since the TVA exists Doctor Strange saw that there are many options but there is only one in which the TVA does not interfere.
I think Strange let Tony sacrifice himself because if he let him survive Tony would want to build another like Ultron being or something much worst that would mean trouble for the world and the Avengers. Another theory I have is that Kang the Conqueror had something to do with it. He probably knew the out come of Thanos plans and he let Tony take him out while also taking himself too. Kang probably knew Tony was a threat to him and his plan to conquer the world, that’s why he needed him out of the picture.
@@mrv7916 Still Tony is a better man than Steve ever was lol.
*So this has been addressed although not well-known: even if the avengers had defeated Thanos on Titan that would still not yield a better future for the universe for coming threats (Kang, Galactus, etc). Apparently, the stones needed to be destroyed & Avengers had to discover time travel for time-based villains like Kang.*
Is this confirmed by anyone with authority or is it just a really good theory?
one question; why is the thing in bold?
@@batoolalmoslmani3312 you *mean* like *THIS!!!*
@@batoolalmoslmani3312 why do you have to point that out?
Easier theory: Robert Downey Jr's contract with Marvel ended.
Lmao
The only reason tbh
He figured he was gonna go off do a bunch of other big movies starting with Dr Doolittle remake 😆 that didnt work out too well so I have a feeling we will see RDJ back sooner than we think.
Dr strange: He's got to go.
He's confirmed to do Iron Man 4. The Iton Man arc makes sense.
Doctor Strange didn't kill Tony, He just showed a sign to do the only thing to save the universe.
@Damian Wayne Robin Mabye Dr.Strange works for the TVA and he knew there was only one way things could go or no theyre timeline would be destroyed he was just trying to protect the timeline
@@brianmann7226 Exactly!
@@brianmann7226 he doesn’t work for the TVA but he knows about it and the timeline
🤔 Maybe he got fed up after a few Million years of bad outcomes. Maybe he just picked the least awful outcome in the entire buch
When Dr Strange said "one" he meant one surviving goatee, beard envy is a path to dark side.
I think Dr. Strange knew about Kang. So he may have allowed the scenario to be played out because a bigger threat was coming. This could explain why Dr. Strange 2 is part of Phase 4.
also two things
one ; strange knows that the TVA would mess around if something else happened
two (this is my theory):Strange may have seen that the avengers were feeling weak and werent very confident, so he may not have altered with tonys death to remind the avengers that they have to stay strong
What if this was the only way that their universe doesn't get pruned, because morbius said that everything that happened was meant to happen exactly how it happened
Kangs TVA against Tony and Dr Strange? Fat chance...the tva would get nuked.
@@williampaulsinghharika2627 the only reason Loki was able to take down the TVA was because of morbius, so if by some chance endgame happened differently the TVA would prune them immediately with no trial just straight up pruned so I doubt even with Tony and Steven working together would do anything
@@kwakhopani1798 the whole TVA is a fake game by Kang the conqueror. You really think Kang has any chance against the Avengers? A single female loki variant with zero ressources duped them since she was a child.
Exactly
@@williampaulsinghharika2627 He really does have a chance have you not watch the avengers earth's mightiest heroes?
If Dr. Strange really wanted Tony dead, he would have just let Thanos kill Tony on Titan. Tony's life or death doesnt really matter one way or another to Strange. Dr. Strange was only concerned with saving the most amount of life and purging the most amount of bad life that is Thanos.
If dr strange let thanos kill Tony on Titan then there would've been no one to built the time machine and eventually bring everyone back
@@pranavpriyesh9456 it isnt necessary that if Tony died on Titan then the snap would definitely happen. What if Thor went for the head?
That not it at all,if tony died on titan then everything would go how it would but there will be a stuck at time machine and even if they tried and did it,who would do the heroic sacrifice at the end it would captain america and he is already a great hero so he would get all of credit and tony would be like not a main character and fans would hate the film
@@shivani_satya_35 if tony died doctor strange would never give away the time stone
@@arjavjain7229 but doctor strange could have stop ✋ star-lord
If they beat Thanos in Infinity War, they wouldn’t have discovered Time Travel, made King Thor, The Scarlett Witch, Loki (causing Wanda to hear her kids & Kang - leading to Iron Lad forming the Young Avengers), and Valentina forming the Dark Avengers/Thunderbolts.
The Ancient One said Strange is the best of us. Dr Strange knows everything that’s going to happen in his life. He said that he will do whatever it takes to get rid of the biggest threat the universe faces in the moment.
Hear me out, guys. I have a theory. What if the reason why Dr. Strange chose this option was because he’s just preventing Tony Stark from turning into a villainous threat in the future? One that can control and manipulate timelines. 🤔
Remember, they discovered the secret of time travel during the events of Endgame. And, if they managed to permanently defeat Thanos and his army without sacrificing Tony, what do you think Tony would do with the time machine they invented? I think he would eventually publicize their discovery of time travel and make it accessible to everyone. Which means, he could also use it to correct the errors and mistakes in the life, that includes the death of his parents. And, the only way Tony could prevent their deaths is to go back in time and kill Bucky Barnes before Bucky has the chance to do so. His parents might’ve lived for a few more decades because of that, but it would definitely put a strain in his future relationship with Captain America if Cap manages to learn the truth. Because eventually, he will. And, that would cause a rift between Tony and Cap and make the Civil War happen way earlier than expected. This could also give an opportunity for any extraterrestrial/multiversal threats like Thanos or Kang to conquer Earth and the whole universe pretty much sooner than anyone could prepare for. 😕
Or, what if Tony decides to use the time machine to go back deeper to cut off the source of why Bucky became Winter Soldier? What if he decides to go back in 1940s MCU Earth and kill Captain America or destroy the “Super Soldier” program itself? I mean, it’s the main reason why the Soviet Union experimented on Bucky when they captured him, to make him their version of a “super soldier”. If Tony decides to end it like that, who do you think will stop Red Skull or the Nazi Germany from conquering the whole Earth? Unfortunately, Steve Rogers was the only “superhero” that time, and if he dies or the program shuts down, the whole world will fall in Nazi/Hydra’s hands. And, there will be nobody that can stop them. 😐
As much as a lot of people hated the idea of letting Tony Stark die in Endgame, I think it’s a better option for Dr. Strange to pick than letting a lot people in their world suffer in the long run because of Tony’s selfish nature. 😕
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It was all a part of Kang's plan.
All according to Keikaku
this is a rerun universe it had already occurred correspondingly before the future multiversal war was ended by HWR.
I love doctor stranges expression in the kneeling to Tony deleted scene cos he knew Tony was going to die and it's hard to see it for real
In this universe it was the only option where they would have won.
He need Tony to find out how to time travel so they can beat Kang he was looking pass Thanos
Kang is a completely different monster. Neutral Kang is dead. The Havoc Kanes are about to go crazy
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DOCTOR STRANGE
THOR: RAGNAROK
AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR
AVENGERS: ENDGAME
SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME
DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS
I believe Strange saw only one outcome because he witnessed the sacred timeline and what happens if you act outside of it.
I like that theory
Doctor Strange didn’t tell him that he would die because then it wouldn’t happen. Which means if he told Stark Thanos would win again and the Universe would have been destroyed.
Maybe he saw that Tony live long enough to become a villain
Let me get this right…
Strange knew he’d be dusted for 5 years and wait for Stark to invent time travel to bring him back. Just to kill him?
I’m not buying it
Actually if he messed with the timeline the TVA would come out so he had to leave fate as it is.
Yes that's true. His job as a Sorcecer Supreme is the Protection of the Natural Timeline. Strange is above The Ancient One. Remember when she gives Hulk the Time Stone she's trusting Strange 5 years later. Cause she's actually fighting the Chitari in New York. Great how they put this all together.
Strange is almost as powerful as the scarlet witch when he has the time stone. He's close even without it but the stone puts him nearly there. What I don't get is how he can control time and still jive with the TVA and their mission. Something doesn't add up with them. I think they exist in the quantum realm and bring people there for trials.
@@MahitoShouldveWon no it’s because the stones don’t work outside there universe
@@kombat4790 As evidenced in the Loki series.
@@heathergittens3223 what if..? Says lulz
Strange return backwards not travel over time.
Funny thing is. Tony messed up but fixed every single one of his while 95% still hasn’t fixed there mess ups and still creating
What Dr. Strange saw:
Our timeline: wins
14m 604: "You are under arrest by the Time Variance Authority"
The reason is that RDJ wasn’t doing anymore Ironman movies…. lol.
Really, RDJ was costing Disney too much: Research as to how much he was making off the movies he was in( pre- RDJ, Marvel/ Disney were extremely stingy with sharing the wealth with contracts. RDJ was brilliant on betting on himself by taking a percentage/ backend deal and made pay better for others( research how much less everyone else made at first).
srsly tho why cant everone understand that Robs' time has come
This actually kinda makes sense Thanos himself even said that he and Tony are alike.
It was suggested to Banner that Strange...Is the Best of us.
The thing that bugs me is that Dr Strange cant see past his death.. so there totally couldve been more futures where they won :(
Exactly 14 million futures isn’t “every possible future”
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Yes but he didn't die when he was dusted everyone who was dusted was 'willed out of existence'
@@Lelow I know but I'm talking about the futures where he was physically killed by Thanos on Titan or on the Avengers compound in Endgame or even some where he wasn't dusted but then died trying to bring the other half back
@@LiveBowie ohhh my bad but in a timeline where he did die I think it would still be the end of everything as then the only protector of the sanctum and their reality would be Wong
Theories are what ruins Marvel's storytelling for me
Dr strange was right, there was only one path to success against Thanos because the TVA were busy pruning all variant timelines so that only one is left- regardless of how many possible futures Strange might have seen, eventually those timelines all cease to exist. Only the ‘sacred’ timeline was ever viable at that pre-multiverse point.
doctor strange and stark in the same screen, its too much ego at the same place, one had to die.
Spoiler alert: Kang in the MCU is a direct descendant of Tony Stark
I think of it more like the "What if?" Series where Dr. Strange tried to save Christine, but she inevitably dies so that Strange would seek answers in the Mystic Arts and become the Sorcerer Supreme to stop Dormammu.
In this case, letting Tony sacrifice himself may have been the only outcome where the snap was reversed and the universe was restored. He could've tried to save Tony, but he could've have set motions in place where something bad happens after Tony was saved where the universe couldn't be saved.
This is only my theory. Maybe there could've been a way to save Tony, but since Strange did let it happen according to his vision, I think it might have been the only way.
Sometimes, in order to save the world(or in this case, the universe), a sacrifice is needed.
@@heathergittens3223 true bro
@@zyrusetcubanas7788 You mean true sis.
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The problem I see is, Strange saw over 15 million outcomes and from that 15 million is only one ending in a win... why did the TVA don't show up?
Yes, the Avengers time heist was part of the sacred timeline, but why saw Strange other outcomes?
whats tva
@@superevolvedshinamalgamleo8168 the tva is the time variant authority, if someone messes up the marvel timeline they will exist in every timeline to stop chaos, but only if it is to extreme levels like COMPLETELY changing the timeline.But the tva isnt involved in the infinity saga and they shouldnt.
I am thinking that it goes like this. Doctor Strange most likely knows about the TVA and Kang the conqueror. If tony had not sacrificed himself, Thanos would not be dead, which would probably create a problem in the sacred timeline big enough for Kang to interfere. Doctor Strange would definitely not want Kang to interfere so to stop Kang from interfering he let Tony Die which, as much as I hate, seems like the better option.
U R right bro according to Comics Dr.Strange has done a lot of Time travel nearly upto the origin of Universe it's a long story btw, but whatever is done by Dr.Strange will always be right❤️
@@brandedgaming8576 true
According to the ancient one Strange what meant to be the best of us that also covers morals too.
Doctor Strange is the Sorcerer Supreme and works to save the very nature of our reality itself on a level no mortal can truly comprehend on a daily basis. He makes impossible decisions regularly and sacrifices more than almost any other hero constantly. Most of the time his life is a tormented Hell. He can be seen as cold, uncaring, and heartless but his actions literally hold together the fabric of our entire existence on multiple levels. If he decided that Tony Stark had to be lost in order for life to move forward he had his reasons. He viewed over sixteen million possible scenarios and came to the conclusion that the way things went down in Endgame was the only acceptable conclusion to the events unfolding. Frankly as painful as the loss of losing Tony is, I would trust Doctor Strange's judgement pretty much over anyone else's in any given situation.
And yes I am aware that his actions in the next Spider-Man film seem highly questionable and rather out of character... Either that is not really Doctor Stephen Strange, or again, he has his reasons.
I cant say out of character. he's a mentor character in no way home and is meant to teach Peter a lesson
Dr. Strange's vision changed at the end of Endgame. He said "if I told you it wouldn't happen." With a smile. That means it changed after time travel.
Dr. Strange said that because Tony needed to go through with it. Otherwise, no dice. This was their only option to stop Thanos, and restore the universe.
Even if Doctor Strange is evil, he will still be in our hearts..
I like the idea that Tony would be the embodiment of "you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
Anyone else notice how tony in mcu and in comics look exactly the same
He didnt kill him. He just knew he was gonna die. But tony sacrafised himself.
Nope,it’s meant to happen,if it isn’t...tva would just prune their timeline,Tony is meant to die on that one,he didn’t sacrifised,well I mean he did but he didn’t just died for Strange’s sake,plus he doesn’t care if he’s going to die,if he’s going to die,he’s meant to die(BASICALLY,IF TONY IS STILL ALIVE,TVA WILL CONFISCATE THE STONES AND PUT HIM IN THE ASYLUM INSIDE TVA)
Kang know the multiverse, he got infinite variants and used them deliberately. This makes him more dangerous than Thanos!
Yeah but Tony Stark is still my favorite and I want a suit 😎. Great job editing this video!!!
Kang wanted Iron Man dead
Well, but then he could've let tony die on Titan and then make a strategic retreat to Wakanda. Perhaps it was something more.
TVA: It would probably take less than 14 million possibilities to figure out the right outcome the TVA wanted. What doctor strange saw was possibly the copy of the sacred timeline.
Tony : I'mma make ultron with the mind stone
Tony : I'mma steal and rename my employees hard work BARF
Strange: Tony has to die. Now I just have to the right future
Stop doubting Dr.Strange plz he is a hero of pure heart❤️
Well said.
It makes sense in a sad way that Tony basically needed to step out of the spotlight so Spider-Man could take the mantle since spidey is after all the Marvel Comics flagship character.
The future that strange saw was the only option that leaded to the avengers winning. The Another thing is that if Tony died then the avengers would have taken a longer time period to figure out time travel makeing that five years gap even longer. let's just say that Doctor strange saw more than one future were they win out of 14,000,605, and then still he chose the one were Tony dies so why didn't he just let thanos kill him on Titan then just give up the time stone that was keeping a lot of people off-of earth's door step, that's because Tony had to span his fingers to save the universe. dr strange does only protect earth he protect's the entire time line. And if Tony lived (which we all would have loved) then he would have retired from being iron Man so he would stop creating new suites and live out he's remaining days not in a metel suite and causeing problems to the world. Also vision he also had to die to set in motion a whole new saga.
I don't think he was trying to get iron man to sacrifice him self cuz when he was speaking with Wong he was asking if there were more ppl to help with the fight against thanos
Are there banana peels all over your driveway? Cuz you trippin’.
Just casually invents time travel then goes about his day
Strange did not see defeating Thanos as winning. He wanted to defeat the stones so nobody else could use them. The only way to do that was to let Thanos win so he would destroy them.
There is something that proves this,
Thanos compared himself with Tony, both cursed and capable of destruction. It's poetic now that I see it like that.
Why would Dr Strange allow Ironman to die? His contract was up. LMFAO
It might be that he saw a long future time not just upto thanos death.
Love iron man love Dr. Strange (which whom is my favorite hero hands down. ) we know that strange seen billions of possibilities and we’re sure in one of those alternate time lines strange stopped him but in doing so Thanos still succeeds. We know the only timeline that succeeds is Tony completing the snap. Its not only logical it’s explained over and over.
Also Doctor Strange trained in the ancient arts and the Strange of Earth 616 is also fully aware of mistakes made in the past that can change who you are in the future. He would have seen himself in Tony (in a way) and would have seen beyond the past mistakes of Tony. It would be completely out of character for him to want to allow Tony to die for his own personal reasons. He let Tony die because he HAD too. End of story. This is a silly theory not based in cannon at all no was it the reason of the directors choice to include strange watching as Tony fulfilled his “fate”
Strange would have to be out of character , disregard his teachings and so much more for this to be true. It’s a FAR Reach!
In our current timeline, there are no stones. It was obviously seen by Dr. Strange that after he gives the stones to Thanos he will use them and destroy them eventually. And as we know through the Ancient one's theory, without a single stone reality can branch into a chaos. On top of all that Strange just did something (not good I suppose) with the reality. I think not only is it because of Loki bc he caused a nexus event by escaping in the past from his own timeline. But also more bc of no more infinity stones and bc of Dr. Strange's spell that the Multiverse is collapsing into chaos.
The only way was showed to Strange by he who remains because stark had to die. Stark discovery about the time travel was dangerous for kang.
Please make a video on if dead pool I’d there in endgame
It's not doctor Strange who kill iron man it's kang who kill him.. 😔😔😔
well actually "He Who Remains", Kang's a variant of him
But dr. strange is a very smart person, so he could've realized other ways of winning would have people stay alive, like natasha and tony. Things could've worked out if they used something like the sokovia accords to make sure someone more smart and responsible could supervise what tony and other avengers did so accidents like ultron wouldn't happen again.
AGAIN FOR GOD SAKE THE TVA WOULD NOT BE HAPPY
Tony Stark sacrificing himself was probably the least Pyrrhic victory to obtain.
Idk. Now I think, if Tony was super smart. So smart he made his suit able to absorb the stones from thanos, not forcefully take them. But why didn't Tony think about the radiation from stones and try and protect himself
He didn't have a Enough time or resources since he's stuck on Titan and he had a daughter on top of
In an interview with Rdj he said that mark 81 wasn't designed to save tony like all other ironman armours...it was designed to do the ultimate sacrifice....and well we all know what happened next
Did Doctor Strange make sure that Rhodey was the main character of the Armor Wars TV Show instead of Tony Stark? Does Rhodey have the skills of a mechanic to fix the War Machine Armor by himself?
Lol
No but he has friday, and the other ais to teach him
Its simple rdj wanted to quit mcu so doc strange lied simple
i assume you havnt seen loki yet.
The stones mean nothing. Strange knows this.
It wasn't Doctor Strange's fault either..It was Star-Lord's decision to strike Thanos that ultimately led Tony's Death.
Doctor Strange could LITERALLY change the MCU.But Sadly it’s movie lore
iron man will be back as variant in multiverse arc
How do you think Spider-Man is going to work with Doctor Strange in Spider-Man No Way Home since he is responsible for him losing his mentor?
Well he isn't responsible for his death in the first place so.... And also Spidey spent some time with Strange, so after Tony, he's the best father figure ( Happy is too but he's a normal person)
We all know that the Illuminati existed in Ironman 2. So strange had to of known tony. Also means tony had to of known some other members or the Illuminati. If this is true then strange knew that tony had some kind of insurance policy in the event of his death and strange just hasn’t shared that information yet. Or at least the mcu hasn’t yet
This is all wrong. Strange saw many ways that the avengers winning but, only one way where the TVA didn’t prune the time line. There’s no free will this was all planned by kang.
It’s possible,but let’s wait
"In the grand calculus of the multiverse, their sacrifice means infinitely more than their lives."
- Doctor Strange, Spider Man No Way Home 2021
We can expect that Strange will do anything to keep everything in order, even if it means sacrificing someone's life.
3:05 the 5 year jump wasnt called the Blip...Banners snap to bring everyone back was called the Blip.
Strange wouldn't do that having took the Hippocratic oath as a Doctor. He wouldn't purposely cause Tony's death.
Dr Strange may be a neurosurgeon which makes him seem uncaring, but he has repeatedly stated to the ancient one he will not kill and chooses not to use dark magic to extend his life.
Exactly!! Killing or enabling death isn't in his blood
Nice video
He didn’t kill tony. It was the only way to stop thanos and prevent a timeline loop
I think the one outcome Doctor Strange wanted is the only one they won and he survived in.
honestly I would've died while watching this if I epilepsy, the amount of flashes in this video are very triggering..
If they had the balls to make strange the villain of Spider-Man and his own sequel movie. Would be one of the best cinematic twists in cinema history. Would be incredible especially with how powerful he is. And the actor does great as him. Would be a top tier villain. And for story purposes could just say down the road Mephisto had control of him or somethin to bring him back good
Dr Strange knew there was only one outcome and he also knew Tony would agree to it because Tony felt guilty for what he did, plus Tony wanted to win @ All cost...
@CBR, THIS should be the next What if on Disney + !!!!!!!
What if Tony survived Endgame.
Have you not seen Loki. It had to happen. It was part of the Sacred Timeline.
Long story short his contract expired
Just like a wise man once said , " Either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain "
Nonetheless Tony is and will always be the goat
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Goat??
When Dr Strange said "one" he meant one surviving goatee, beard envy is a path to dark side.
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3:55 but what if he used the realty stone to fake it?? because he didn't snap from the gauntlet he snapped from his fingers which is impossible
Strange could have used astro to push and separate the radiation probably.
So you just want him to live in his astral form? Maybe there are long term side effects...
Sherlock killed Sherlock
dude your voice changes in few videos, not complaining or saying anything anything rude or bad but just asking
He was just pissed at Tony for leaning on the Cauldron of the Cosmos.
When Dr Strange said "one" he meant one surviving goatee, beard envy is a path to dark side.
i didnt laugh im sorry
What would have happened if Doctor Strange made sure that Captain Marvel snapped past Thanos and his army since she has powers from the Space stone?
Let’s be honest the contract finished and they needed a way to say he died or never will be seen again in an epic way am I right?
Will there be an appearance of Iron Man from another universe in a future MCU movies?
No cause rdj is done with iron man
@@yodasnot-so-wellcousin445 Actually, he got a renewal for his contract. Iron Man isn't done yet.
Wait so idk if i'm missing something but i remember hearing that dr strange has to die in order to reset each one of his trips into one of the possible future outcomes, and if there was only 1 outcome where thanos loses... doesn't that mean dr strange knows everything thats gonna happen up to his death now?
Yeah? It’s already said in the mcu😑
He can see the future,every sorcerer supreme can
Cuz he wears the eye of agamoto
Did the person who came up with this video even see infinity war and endgame
Short answer, Downey's contract was up
One sacrifice for the greater good.
He asks to spare his life for the time stone.