What do Russian elites really make of the war? | Ukraine: The Latest | Podcast
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- Day 225. Today, we discuss the latest updates from Zaporizhzhia and we speak to journalist Farida Roustamova who’s been talking to members of Russia’s elite and gauging their attitudes to the war and Putin’s handling of it.
Contributors:
David Knowles (Host). Follow David on Twitter @djknowles22.
Dom Nicholls (Associate Editor, Defence). Follow Dom on Twitter @DomNicholls.
Francis Dearnley (Assistant Comment Editor). Follow Francis on Twitter @FrancisDearnley.
With thanks to:
Independent journalist Farida Roustamova. Follow Farida on Twitter @faridaily_.
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This channel deserves far more likes than it gets.
Fascist propaganda deserves no likes.
Kadyrov promoted to general is like a 5th ship officer promoted to a sinking ship captain! 🤣🤣🤣😂😆😅
The best coverage of the conflict. Hands down.
I love your channel. I listen to It daily - from Slovakia
What an outstanding program - the best I have heard in a while: thoughtful and deep with tremendous clarity. I especially appreciate the moderator who does not ask leading, fawning questions, does not “talk over” the guests, or put words in their mouths! 👍
Bring the pain Ukraine 🇺🇦 ❤
Fascinating insights about Russian elite's mindset. The cognitive dissonance must be paralysing for some. Thanks for posting!
The comments about complete despair and being hostages trapped with learned helplessness were striking.
I think it's not about survival but clientalism.
The real difference seems to be that Ukraine troops have been training under NATO forces since 2014, they are being trained in several countries even now. Russia otoh has apparently sent it's training units to the front as part of the operation. Meanwhile Ukraine mobilized 7-8 months ago and has had 7-8 months to properly equip and train troops in western warfare tactics. Russia is now attempting to do this in weeks, without their main professional training corps. Putin badly underestimated the Ukraine military and more importantly badly overestimated his own military competence and effectiveness.
The bully does not like being bullied.
Oh the humiliation Putin is suffering. He’s embarrassed himself to the Chinese and the rest of the world with his tinpot army who want nothing to do with this “Special Operation”
Ukraine has been training for this for the past 8 years, using the Donetsk and Lugansk Republics as one of those training grounds. Armed and trained since 2015 by NATO as confirmed by Poroshenko in 2021. Most of those 'elite forces" have already been wiped out. New recruits include men over 65 ffs! Conscripted women have been rounded up by desperate Ukraine. They're all gonna die.
@@delmarae100 it's really a carnage.
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the real issue is Ukrainians are not Russian and have never been Russian.... Stalin complained how Ukrainians refused to submit... Russians are cowards never will they ever stand up to their criminal government. Ukrainians seek freedom... and are willing to die for it. We saws this at Maidan... Russians even fear being arrested... it is a lie that Ukrainians have been close to Russians... never... Stalin murdered from 4 million to 10 million Ukrainians during the Holodomor years.
Give a Russia a loaf of bread and they will be quiet.... stop grouping Ukrainians with these cowards.
Historian from Toronto, Canada. Four days old; but still very relevant. I always enjoy quality journalism.
Watch a different channel then bot
Informative and fascinating, as always.
I'm really adoring Snyder's works, he has amazing insight into the dynamics here. I think things will begin to move very quicky inside Russia at some point. Putin broke this contract between the Kremlin and the people that existed since WW2, that if they just shut up and obey, their lives will be untouched and peaceful. He's coming for their lives, so I think after some time they'll be coming for his. They're already going against one another, blaming each others, pundits like Solovyov, milbloggers and propagandists like Strelkov, Kadyrovites, military, FSB, they're all beginning to play the blame game now.
Incredible love it
Farida is wonderful, it's great to get reminded that there are genuine Russians who are "going along" due to learned helplessness. We all can relate to that! My question is: Is Putin unable to NOT go to war because it is demanded by his role as "Czar" to protect the east from the invading westerners? He has a horror of looking like a "compromising" loser like Gorbachov. In this mindset , as long as he follows the prescription it will naturally turn out right? Defeat is unthinkable, preference for the "scorched earth" scenario opens the door to contemplation of nuclear war? Thanks for reading my rant, I'm worried!
Elon Musk is one of those very clever people who make public statements on subjects they know nothing about (like Jordan Peterson) and get things completely wrong. On geopolitics he's an ignoramus.
Jordan Peterson should write the encyclopaedia of bad advice.
Elon wants to be President one day. See him as a prototype Trump. At least he's getting some rough edges knocked off in this process. HE does not suffer from "learned helplessness"!
Russian paper tigers!
The Great Russian Bear is a white elephant.
@@Retro_Rich That's an insult to elephants.
The UN's major weakness is that Russia has a veto. This makes that system impotent, much like Leage Of Nations. When the next form of UN is iterated. There needs to be a stipulation that any belligerent nation on the council proven to be the aggressor succeeds said Veto.
Nations that commit war crimes should be expelled from the UN. A nation that does that is clearly just going to use their presence to their own gain. It's pointless to expect anything less.
Sadly, the UN has become corrupted and now is more trouble than its worth, not only in relation to military aggression aspects, but it’s support of the plethora of blatant misinformation promoting the the human component of the climate change / global warming scam, not to mention the disastrous approach to COVID-19 etc.
Too much coincidence with the goals of the WEF, Gates, and the like - IMHO
Need a different expert. Lots of words but hard to understand and did not offer much information or insight on subject of elites.
Russians need to wake up and smell the coffee !!
They might not have nice coffee ☕️
They probably killed all their taste buds with vodka.
I think they've woken up and smelled the coffins!
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In the voting to become independent in 1991, all regions in Ukraine voted overwhelmingly for independence from Moscow and that includes 83% of Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts.
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I like Tim Syders work a lot but i am very surprised at his miss reading of the Russian people. Russians against the world fits very well into the Russian psyche
Anyone in the Kremlin should have realised that once Russian men left the country they would have access to media and learn what’s really happening.
The lady reporter- Russian elite- very interesting
Thursday the 6th of October?
Analysis of internal Russian politics is NOT worth reading about because it takes attention away from the only important issue:
How can the combat power of the Ukrainian armed forces be increased?
Putin frightened little old man formerly czar. Soon FSB start to fear for their own power? Who survives? Any?
What is happening in Kazakhstan? How do Kazakhstan feel about this war? There's a huge border between Kazakhstan and Russia.
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Elon must modify the spelling of his last name to…. MuZk
Funny how this channel deletes all negative comments
what did Syrian’s really make of US actions in Baghuz on March 18, 2019 ?
0:24 Truss has been replaced by BJ in the intro...
Yeah, not her best quote they'd selected. A strong moral condemnation akin to BoJo's is much better.
@@abatesnz need to get Dom’s analysis on the change.
Well done, Dom & Francis. As always.
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Goonoo? Going to? Dear me!
A Russian elite what kind of Russians are they.The none grunting variety
if possible they left russia
Do we care who win’s the czar crown?
"War is always the same. It is young men dying in the fullness of their promise" ~ Damaged Dad th-cam.com/video/3DdtmOeGwu4/w-d-xo.html
Bad mind getting active.
Useful Idiots issue?
Musks reply is a complete confirmation that he doesn’t have any understanding of the conflict.
She says "uh" quite allot.
There are more commercials than content. How the hell do people listen to this?
Brave browser.
I agree, very annoying and frustrating to constantly cancel.
There is a way to stop the ads on TH-cam. I don't remember how i did it. But I don't have any ads.... !!!!
@@herrmannxxx yeah, but ad blockers don't pay the creator. I'd like to support, but an interruption every 2 and a half minutes is ridiculous
Yes, really annoying.
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Normally i dont even write comments but the maner of speaking with question marks at the end of sentences is really annoying. Please stop it!
Russian soldiers wave white flag and recycle your weapons and fight for the right reasons - "THE "2´nd RUSSIAN REVOLUTION - Truth does not have to fight to be right. Mother Russia need Yashaya Peace
It's more like the un-united Kingdom at this point.
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that Mic of that russian girl is from 19th century? first tiime I didnt finish listening....her slow paced predictable droolings and terrible quality of sound made me rage quit....sorry , otherwise I love this podcast
I slogged through it.....but wish I hadn't.
I'd rather just listen to Dom the whole time. 😆
Yes, it was a slog. Interesting content but monotonous. Someone please send her a headset or proper microphone.
Well said: "Slow paced predictable droolings"
A great deal of waffle
I cannot listen to this monotonous waffle any more
In Russia everything is everybody else fault never themselves.
Cry bully attitude.
BS!
What a load of total nonsense
I used to think American foreign policy was evil, (still do), but I always believed American foreign policy didn't reflect true American values. I'm wrestling with that and am currently undecided but getting close to changing my mind.
In 1994 Tonya Harding (American figure skater) destroyed (broke her knee) Nancy Kerrigan because she couldn't win fairly. Was that an anomaly or is that how most Americans compete?
That's exactly what America is doing with Russia, Europe, China, and virtually every small country they deal with. If America can't compete, it destroys.
Everybody knows it and they silently support it. Remember when Pompeo bragged at a Texas A&M university that the CIA "we lie, we steal, we cheat,' ? Well that's not really news but what I found scary was how the entire audience laughed and applauded.
Americans seem to support cheating and lying and destroying anyone who might succeed.
Americans stopped their government in the Vietnam war. Why have Americans not stopped their government from the continuous regime change, invasions, sanctions, and proxy wars that kill and impoverish people every day?
So either America is not a democracy or the majority of Americans are as evil as the CIA and their foreign policy.
Ivan, the matter is that it’s Russia which attacked weakier country and USA was the only country which could effectively help the weaker country, which they did
Yes, because it was America that forced Ukraine to invade Russia...it was America that slaughtered and terrorized the civilians in Bucha, Izium, Mariupol ...yes, your Russia is innocent as a dove ...Russian WuMao 😂
@@pupysb6267 yes just following standard American policy: Master List of US Aggression
By William Blum
Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti *2004
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009 *
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *
Oh Yeah, Why does America need 863 military bases in 183 countries for "defense" the hypocrisy is mind boggling.
Pure Evil always under the WAR cry of freedom or human rights.
Master List of US Aggression
By William Blum
Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti *2004
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009 *
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *
Oh Yeah, Why does America need 863 military bases in 183 countries for "defense" the hypocrisy is mind boggling.
Beep boop says the false narrative GRU bot for poop Tin.
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