Test drove the GT650 and the Himalayan two days ago and came home with a red and black Himalayan with panniers. Very happy with it...early 🎄 present. Merry Christmas ☃️
People who want the Himalayan to be "more" just don't get it. It is relatively light weight, appropriately powered for the mission, handles dirt roads brilliantly with a suspension that for most people needs no additional tinkering. No, you can't break the rear wheel loose with the throttle and flat track around the corners, but this is not a smooth move when help is an airlift away where this bike was designed to go. Most importantly you can get both feet flat on the ground. Those who worship ground clearance must not ride in the real dirt. If you haven't tried to dab a correction on the downhill side of an off camber rut and found that 550+ lbs of motor might be a bit much to thrust quickly then you aren't going the places this bike was designed to run. This bike was designed to be accessible. A 70 year old friend who hasn't ridden in 8 years just bought one with panniers and brush busters for $6300 out the door. He is short, over weight and under skilled for the dirt but this bike is perfect. Both feet on the ground, no sudden power shifts to upset a rusty rider and enough tractability to allow him to go where he feels comfortable. I rode it briefly and while it could use a bit heavier flywheel for the really slow stuff I thought it handled a washboard deeper gravel dirt road at a spirited pace extremely well, brilliantly actually. A more skilled rider can extract a higher level of performance. If you want more, be prepared to spend twice the amount to get more, and maybe not do the job as well. I have one in my near future.
@alan bane alan I'm on my second Himalayan. I've most likely done a lot more miles on one than you have. I clearly 'get' it. I bought the powertronic to see if it was beneficial as some people were saying. It wasnt.
I agree, there is always this dumb pursuit for 'more'. If you need a bigger bike get an Africa Twin or preferebly take less junk . People have gone around the world on Honda C90's, just get the best out of what you have and pay less carnet fees!
I found this to be one of your better conversations on the Himalayan. Especially appreciated the last few minutes. You've certainly graduated from the early class of Himalayan owners and came out a more matured, experienced, confident spokesperson. Finally logged a couple thousand adventure/gravel/mud miles myself, and it did a lot to improve my understanding of this bike's place in the market and true nature and ability. Haven't caught up to you in that regard, but closer every day. If you get a chance to ride in Alaska, say up to Deadhorse and Prudhoe Bay, I'd gladly do the ride again on the Himalayan and tag along for company. Take the spare bedroom if you need as well. 🙂👍🍻
Hey Justin. I just bought my new Himmy last week from NW Moto like you. Should be delivered in January, so I won't get to ride it till May. It would be awesome if we could met up with Noraly next summer when she makes it to Alaska and do a ride together. Let me know if you get over toward Skagway.
I agree, I love adventure bikes and can't afford these bikes with huge tags that come with them! That's what cought my attention with the himalayan, the price. And then I loved the looks, then I started loving the whole thing! Came across a 2 month old one with 400 miles on it at a dealer for 3.5k financed it on the spot! That was a year ago and never looked back, the lack of power really doesn't bother me at all, I knew it before I bought it, so that in mind I can not fault the bike one bit, love it!!!
@@mdzaid5925 is that American dollars?? That's about £2000!! UK tax and transport is probably most of that make up! I will still shed a tear though lol
@@mdzaid5925 USA you get warranty support for 2 or 3 years. The roadside assistance in that you get with it also adds to the cost. I also think there are some components that are better made for US/Europe market - all this adds up.
I just laugh when anyone say lack of power... You should ride main stream Indian bikes, they come with 100CC engines... My whole life I have ridden these and now I plan for Himalayan... It would be a big step up for me...😁 Otherwise it's all perspective, glass half full, half empty! Choose your glass... The inner happiness that matters. Ride on mate!
Hi Nathan thank you for your videos my Himalayan was delivered yesterday looking forward to some good times, also fitted the Cool Cover , please keep up your great work
An honest appraisal and no rants against RE. As for frames breaking I have still seen no actual numbers, just hearsay. Currently on a ride through France, Spain and Portugal (all on backroads) on my Himalayan. Our paths nearly crossed in Croatia/Bosnia when I was there on my KTM RC8. My Himalayan would have been a better choice considering the "roads" we rode on. Best of luck with your future trips.
I've just taken delivery of my himalayan, it's underpowered but every time I've riden it its put a smile on my face, it's a lot more confident inspiring on the loose stuff than my other bike (gs1200) and if I do drop it at least I'll be able to pick it up. Looking forward to doing some adventures on it soon
hi nathan glad you are keeping well.read your postie bike book,a few years ago and also met you at an hill climb meeting.you are a genuine bloke.regards john.
I've been over the Himalayas this year on the RE Classic nearly 2000 miles and the only bike that broke down was a KTM, so for me I will keep my Classic and my Himalayan bikes. Only problem I've had with the Himalayan is the clocks get condensation, which was renewed and the head gasket leaked, but repaired on warranty . The only con with the bike is that's it's not super fast, but on the flip side, you won't lose your licence, and you enjoy the ride more and you wont kill yourself unlike other bikes, if you have the power, you tend to use it. The bike is very comfy, you can load it up with all your gear, cheap to buy, run and maintain,and its basic. Its also great for off road, as you can handle it very easily due to being light, and can stand up all day and be very comfy.
Morning Nat, Always great to get your spin on things Still preping my Himalayan just made a custom Diy universal rack plate with a built in camera pole as per ( itchy boots ) but free ( lol ) we like a bit of free stuff, still keeping my eyes peeled for a UK based trip with your good self be great if you made a Video with available dates for 2019 - 2020 if your anything like me it's any excuse to get out of the house spin the wife on one more trip this year to get a few quid together for Christmas stay safe Brother Atb. Roach
Thanks for the review. This is a bike ( and manufacturer) that I have been following closely recently. I really like the fact that they can produce a quality product at a price that an average rider can afford. I would love for them to continue development of the Himalayan series, improving the current model and developing new models as well. I think that, at least in the states, a larger single would sell quite well. There are a lot of KLR 650-type riders out there that are going to be in the market for a replacement bike. With the KLR gone, a larger displacement Himalayan would be, in my opinion, an ideal replacement.
I agree with all you have to say about the Himalayan so i`m not going to repeat what you`ve said except that it`s the most confidence inspiring bike for the money and if i break this one i`ll buy another.
Great vid, with no BS. Glad to see your back on a Himi. I bought mine and then injured myself at work so cant ride it, only 200 miles on the clock. Roll on 2020 so i can get back out on the trails. Ride safe Nathan.
Good update....totally agree with you on the Himalayan. A mate of mine has one and it's terrific. We rode a selection of lanes last week...I was on my XR650R and there was nothing I rode that the Himalayan didn't or couldn't. And on the little back roads of West Sussex and Hampshire linking up the lanes it was great...flicking along at a decent pace. Check out a channel called 'GS Vintage ' beautiful filming and all on a Himalayan. Cheers, Steve
Hello there I am Ujjwal pradhan from Sikkim a small Himalayan state in the North Easte India and I am a royal Enfield Himalayan rider since 2017 and have ridden about 17000 km on it in the Himalayan ranges across Nepal ,Bhutan and India and it is amazing bike it has taken me to breath taking places with a view and never let me down ,much love for the Royal Enfield Himalayan all around the world ❤️ #royalenfield #himalayan
Thank you so much for your impressions. This is the first review I’ve seen with this much real world experienced rider analysis. As to RE’s wanting to go bigger... this is phenomenon is what has stunted Harley Davidson. HOW FREAKING HUGE DOES A BIKE GOTTA BE! I like the Himalayan as it’ll do everything I need without overkill, I most likely won’t get into trouble with it from too much power and my girlfriend can possibly ride it as well. Best of all, it’s a great price... I can’t stress that enough as you know the others like it all bigger are also much more expensive... to the point where I can get a RE Himalayan or I can walk. Note: as an American from the northwest I initially had a hard time following your patterns of speech. I’ll probably have to watch this twice to catch it all.
Yes I would certainly not like that to go up to 800 or 1200 or heaven forbid, 1300 like some of them are going. Another 10bhp would do me. Just so I can poke along on the motorway without having to run it flat out all the time. As you say though, the price is the biggest draw, so whatever they do they've got to keep that low in order to keep it popular.
I've still got my original also. After two summers riding it, I still am loving it also. If I had a wish, it'd be same as you on maybe a 6th gear or a 20 hp upgrade to 650 single or double. Overall though, It's saving me $200 a month in gas over driving my F150 and I have fun using it. I personally in 4k + miles haven't had a single breakdown or issue. I think a new set of tires will go on her next spring, but other than that, I'm very happy with it.
I would love to see the Himalayan with the RE 650 twin engine available. That would really challenge the adventure motorcycle world. Especially if they can still keep the price down. That would be a brilliant motorcycle to own. The rumor is it is coming. We will see.
Great to hear the truth from someone that obviously cares. I have been looking at the Himalayan and despite its faults I agree with you in almost everything you have said. RE made their name with the singles for decades but their eye does seem to be on the twins and bigger engines. Shame if they lose their loyal base because they do want to be bigger outside India where they are massive but they should take a break and look at what they could improve. Thanks for your valid opinion
Just bought a little Himalayan today after plenty of research. Test ride was impressive. A breath of fresh air away from the highly advanced laptops on wheels in the adventure bike class.
Thank you for this. I've just come back from riding around Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, and back to Tanzania, on a hired Himalayan. The bike was well-worn and had many faults (and tubed tyres!). But it kept going no matter the terrain, sounded lovely, was comfortable, and the mpg was excellent. There is something captivating about this 'primitive' machine.
Bloody great to hear this..l am tempted to go to UK (Derby) to buy one..been really struggling with a bully in work and am so ready to hit the road to clear my head...l saw one for sale for £3,950 with 500 miles on the the clock..thanks for the up beat message..
My primary bike is a Triumph T120. Outstanding road bike and tourer. I am retiring soon and moving to AZ. So many new unimproved, desert/dirt roads to explore! As a result, seriously considering adding a Himalayan to my garage. Thanks for great vid.
Good update on the RE Himalayan. I'll be keeping an eye out for any planned Lands End to John O' Groats trips scheduled for 2020. Would like to participate in one of those trips.☘
When I started riding trails only on my honda xl250 ..never decades later did think I'd find somet similar well how wrong was I. ...thank you RE...himalayan 👍👍👍👍👍cheers from dave
Thank you for the clarification of the Powertronic option. I was hoping you'd touch on that seeming you now have long mile experience with and without. 👍
Still got my Himalayan (chopped in my Multistrada for it) and have absolutely no intention of selling it. Everything Nathan says about this bike rings true to me and after nearly 40 years of riding I have learnt so much more about riding now I have so little BHP to pay with. Have to say that for the rural roads here in central France where I now live I ride it more than my Griso (although that brings a different smile to my face on a sunny day!). I'm currently working out how to ship it to NZ for a 4 week trip for my 60th next year. Your book is also excellent by the way.
David Dixon Buy a new bike in NZ, sell it when done... still be cheaper than shipping both ways. EDIT: just take your gear as buying new gear just for the one month trip would be spendy (unless it’s time to replace gear anyway and you’re gonna pack it home.) How do you like the Griso, two shops in my state have new 2017 models, and the price is so cheap I’m thinking I need to grab one before the summer?
I was so fixated on buying a used Doctor, but now after watching so many videos on Himalayan the more and more i think maybe this bike is the way to go. Nice watch Nathan, keep them coming!
Great video, thanks! You nailed it by saying it made the same trip as the big BMW GS, and rode the same trails as the Husky. Exactly why I just bought one as my first bike.
Echo Nathan's sentiments. Had mine for 11 months, 14000 kms with no issue. On trials with riders of the same temperament I've had no issues keeping up with DR650 or CRF250L bikes, even with my limited off road skills. I have gone where they go. It truly puts adventure riding within the reach of everyone and the beauty of it is, after a weekend of adventure riding it takes commuting to work and back in the city in it's stride during the week.
Being honest I sat on one last Saturday, and being a tall rider at 6'3" I liked it. The only issue for me is the engine size. I would like to see the 650 twin version. Thanks for your video.
I am reliably informed that the new Himalayan (if it’s even actually called that in the end) won’t be a 650 twin based bike but something new entirely...
It’s a bit shit that Suzuki pulled your bike?! I have shared this vid’ with Royal Enfield on Twitter & Facebook... It’ll be interesting to see if they take note?! 👌🏻👍🏻
nathan very interesting. seems a long time ago that i bought your postie bike paperback book. have met you to say hello at the hill climb,at worcestershire ?. glad to watch your nice genuine down to earth videos on u tube. stay the same as you are a genuine person with a big passion for motorcycling.i am now 72 and still love all things motorbiking. i am thinking of buying an enfield also. a meteor perhaps.
Good to see you back on the RE. Strongly recommend the hyperpro suspension upgrade. Changed front and back springs and the bike feels so solid. Also changed my steering head bearings to non factory and havent had any issues since. The bike is great fun down here in NZ. Keep the vids coming!
I AGREE with you, from past 1 year RE has not done anything for himalayan they have been focusing on 650s, a much needed update on himalayan is needed and hope we get that with BS6/EURO5 models.........
I just got home from a 14 day fly and ride to the Himalayas, on a Himalayan. ABoriginaltours, check them out, GREAT company. We were 9 riders on Himalayans and had zero issues during the 1300km trip on some of the nastiest roads I've ever seen. No, they're not powerfull. No, it's not a 120kg enduro bike. It is however a very good travel bike. I just wish it would have maybe 10 more horsepower, to give some proper passing power. As it is, you get kind of stuck behind anything but a farm tractor.
I switched from a BMW R1150GSA to a Himalayan and I'm not looking back. I still have the GS and it is for sale now, as the Himalayan is damn near perfect. An engine with 40 hp would be superb on this bike. I'm a better and more confident on the RE over the BMW. You hit the nail in the head, I hope Royal Enfield sees the message and takes it to heart.
So rough a video yes! With dirty fingers pointing at the camera but such interesting commentary about what I see as a cult bike. For example, I watch Himalayan videos online...and not ones featuring larger adventure bikes being dropped. I'd give the thumbs up to a passing Himalayan rider knowing he/she is all about the adventure not adventure bike catalogues and accessories on an infinite budget,
I'm from Brazil and I also have a white Himalayan. My model is 19/20, but some people are complaining about the quality control in the factory. They say that sometimes the panel gets foggy (but I think this happens in another brands as well) and there are some engine's problems. But I agree with the most of the things in the video. It's a good motorcycle with your purpose is to see landscapes and have a pleasant ride.
@@nathanthepostman I recall she had steering head bearing issues, which is a known problem that you mention too. I recall the other main issue was the clutch prematurely wearing but that was her own fault that she admitted to by installing taller bars and not installing longer clutch cables, so the clutch was dragging ever so slightly but still went for quite a few thousand kilometres before slipping badly enough.
@@nathanthepostman She burned out the clutch in Iran which she admitted was her fault, She had probl;ems with the steering head bearings which were replaced about every 11000km (6600 miles)
I have 4 bikes, ( Yes I have a problem) The newest is the Himalayan, I like the bike its great for back roads but power is the biggest issue with me. Here in the US with all the Highways, keeping up with traffic is an issue when on some the speed limit is 75MPH. For long distance travel I go to my Super Tenere for back country, dirt roads the RE puts the bigger smile on my face, so much so I may sell my beloved KLR650.
Your only problem is riding on interstates. LOL! Plan a route of back roads and enjoy the journey. You will enjoy getting to the destination much more. :)
Good vid! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think you are spot on with your comments about where the himilayan sits in the market. It is what it is and does everything to the best of it's ability. I agree that with a bit more bhp and a little more ground clearance this would enhance the product. Still keeping the single thumper engine design just sort out those " niggles" with the engine and the frame and i think the customers will continue to buy. IF? i'm like any other average motorcycle owner over the years i have more than one motorcycle at any one time and the Himilayan is reasonably cheap enough to have as an addition and not as an" only bike "so the lack of power wouldn't be an issue. I'm old school so a lack of technology on the bike and the simplicity actually invites my curiosity. Keep up the reviews you are very watchable... and thanks for revealing your hands where dirty from painting and not oily as i first thought you where in the middle of an engine rebuild....😉👍🏍
The message here, and thank you Nathan!, this is a great bike with so much potential ... if only. RE, please take heed and make those adjustments and you WILL reap the rewards from a loyal following and potential converts. Nathan echoes many other riders experienced with this bike.
You're making a hell of a lot of good solid sense with your comments Nathan. I and many others who are also currently thinking of also becoming Himalayan owners just really, really hope, that Royal Enfield is, ..LISTENING.. and ..ACTING.. upon your own very valid feedback and suggestions on how they can still, easily improve this bike, and thereby further cement for themselves 'a true cult following' and an unswerving global brand allegiance for their new generation of RE bikes. I also absolutely agree that in 'today's world' where more and more people are in reality finding it increasingly difficult financially, to justify spending money on, any vehicles, that it would be an absolutely fatal mistake now for RE to also simply follow other bike manufacturers down their chosen paths of ever higher-tech, and ever higher-pricing, when it comes to the development their new models of RE bikes. If they were to do this then I think that their own somewhat unique market segment success would quickly evaporate as their own RE brand bikes then simply became just yet another overpriced and increasingly unaffordable and increasingly difficult to maintain bike, in an already very over-crowded market that's already filled with other competing company brands that already fit that description. And so, just in case RE are, indeed now listening, to their current, and future generation of customers own feedback and suggestions, my very own suggestion would be for a modest increase in the new model Himalayan's horsepower, while keeping the very good and usable low speed Torque there as well, along with the inclusion an additional 6th ratio final overdrive-gear for improved high speed highway use when having to cover long road transit distances, whilst not simultaneously flogging the motor out at almost continual red-line revs, as is the current situation with the bike. Maybe, increasing the next model Himalayan's engine capacity to 500cc but, still, keeping it as an 'under-square and single lunged thumper', would fill that bill very nicely..?
Just put a booster plug on my Himalayan and it’s transformed it’s performance - smoother, accelerates hard and faster in every gear and runs cooler, I can’t recommend them enough 😃👍🏻
Great to hear the improvement. I tried a powertronic but didn't get any measurable improvement. I'm probably just going to leave this one stock, although running cooler would be good
nathanthepostman, for me the powertronic was just too complicated, booster plug was a 15 min install and well worth the £130 outlay and it doesn’t stall any more either, possibly because it makes the fuel richer by 6%, but this is negligible on the fuel consumption 👍🏻
@@KRAM-zb2vc yeah it was a faff the powertronic, which is why I took it off. Mine doesn't stall so I'm pretty happy with it as is. Maybe another 5bhp wouldn't go amiss!
Hey Nathan Love your vids, very inteligent, informative , honest, and just the right amount of emotion. I really want to get my hands on this bike , but probably like everyone eles interested in touring, the highway speeds and power limitations are a concern. I live in northern Nevada , wide open roads and the long distances of the South West and the passes of the Sierra Nevada mountains.... Anyway Can you give us your thoughts on the sprocket modifications please ? My buddy put a 1 tooth up on his KLR and 80 mph no worries !!! Will it affect the tractor factor that much that this isn't a option ? Thanks
I spoke to you briefly at the NEC last year to ask what you thought of the Himalayan. Your answer was " it's four grand ,just buy one" so I did. No regrets!
I hope RE take on board your comments. Was going to replace my Tiger1050 this year but I love that bike, decided to keep it so I brought a CRF250 Rally, have to say I am not disappointed.
Thanks Nathan. An absolutely spot-on realistic assessment of the Himalayan. A telling comment on Enfield's attitude towards the Himalayan too. I've done 4000 miles on mine in a year without any problems (apart from occasional stalling at tickover). I don't thrash it and I don't fiddle around needlessly with it. Would I have another? Absolutely.
Sat in Alicante watching your great video. Bikes at Gatwick with its upgraded steering. Only hassle is i had to buy the bearings myself as I needed the wheels for the airport. Went to intruder motorcycles here and the chap told me he always chooses the Himi for trips to town rather than HD & Indian. Mine spends it's weekend pottering around the south downs national park. It's bloody excellent, my mods are EBC brake pads -a bit better. BMC air filter-no real difference but wtf! I love it only thing is why doesn't my compass work lol !
Jim Gooding If your Himalayan was in for service and the battery was disconnected then the Compass will not work until it is re calibrated! The workshop should do it before it is collected by the customer ( that's if it was in for servicing). If it just happened while riding it, you can do it yourself. Firstly if you were practicing figure of eights on the bike, like in a car park or lots of very tight slow turns, this manoeuvring WILL knock off the compass calibration. You can re set this in two ways, one switch on the ignition and run a magnet in a circle over the compass. This usually sorts it back to normal after a few miles riding, or ride the bike in a figure of eight in a car park, again this usually resets it again after a few miles of riding normal. Just give it a try, I have done this on several occasions when I have disconnected the battery when fitting electronic extras. I can always get the compass back on in this way and I have checked it against another large hand held compass for accuracy! Hope this is of use to you.
I'm sure the Tenere 700 is a brilliant bike, but at $10k US it replaces my annual travel budget in the bargain. I end up with a big, powerful machine I can only ride to the store to buy the ramen noodles I'll be eating for the foreseeable future.
Had a Triumph Tiger 1200 XCa, latest model, bought new with lots of bells and whistles. Sold it after 18 months and 8000 miles and got a Himalayan BS4: couldn't be happier. Should it ever break badly (which I hope it won't) I think I'll buy another one. I can get up to four for the price of the Triumph, and have four times the fun in the process 😁. The fact that I'm close to my sixties may have played a role in the decision, I don't know. Anyway, my riding style is much like Noraly's Itchy Boots and IMHO the REH fits that purpose like no others. Plus you hardly get speed tickets with it 😁. To the average Joe Rider (like myself) those big ADV bikes make one dream of adventures, the Himalayan makes one do them. And, no, I'm not hoping for a 650 twin version, or I'd rather go for a Yamaha T7.
Just rode Himalyan in the Himalayas. Just loved the bike. It's cutome made for off roading. Agree its bit underpowered, but it's meant for off road conditions. Rode 600 miles on it & Just loved it. Excellent handling. Can't wait for Himalyan 650.
RE HIMALAYAN as the name suggests built tough like THE GREAT HIMALAYAN RANGES OF INDIA. In extreme off roading conditions like in Leh Ladakh , I would suggest Nathan you should go on Leh Ladakh off roading on Himalayan where it's not just the test of bike but the real test of human endurance. Please come to India you would fell in love with Leh Ladakh trail. Heaven for offroading
Awesome and knowledgable video ... fantastic. I sold my beloved XT600z a few weeks ago and miss it like mad ... been thinking about getting another but these Himalayan's just keep calling me! should I or shouldn't I? I can get a decent Xt for £4500 but I seem to see decnt low mileage RE's for less ... I need to make a decision arghhhhhhhh!
I'm collecting my new Himalayan next week €4600 new on the road, really looking forward getting it. I've owned very many bikes over the years including the BMW Gs 1100, V Strom 650, Bultaco 150s, greeves 350. Many dt 125 and mx 175s, Suzuki ts 125 and many other off road bikes, I won't mention on road bikes or Ile be writing all day lol. Why did I pick the Himalayan, well I'm almost 60 years now and have back injuries and I'm a short ass with 29" inner, the bike is perfect for me, I'm done with the fast bikes and tall positions. I want my feet close to the ground, I want easy maintenance that I will do myself, no water pumps and associated stuff, pipes and radiators, I don't understand all the people here saying put the twin 650 in the Himalayan, why do that, making it just another clone of so many other bigger bikes. Personality I would much prefer they stay single cylinder. Keep that big thumper sound and grunt, OK increase the capacity to maybe 600, 650, but single cylinder. People who want a twin engine just don't get it regarding the whole concept of this wonderful simple machine. And regarding frame problems..... I remember a certain Scotsman and Irishman breaking frames on wee bikes on a round the world trip.... I rest my case lol! Greeting from a little country town in Latvia surrounded by beautiful forests and wonderful off road tracks😎👍
I think your presenting style could best be described as "natural" (😀), for which I am grateful. Recently found you and now subscribed and bought the Sydney book. Himalayan is def my type of vibe, and am waiting for semi-retirement so I can justify buying one!!
Interesting to see that you have come back to a Himalayan, and your reasons for doing so. I am just about to buy a Himalayan for a South American trip. I am thinking about putting a grease nipple on the headstock, in the hope that the ability to regularly grease the bearing will make it last longer. Have you met anyone who has done this, or considered it yourself?
Hi Nathan, great vid - the Hima is simply perfect - low price, highly capable, does everything, brings you anywhere safe and sound. The only issue I´ve is as you stated - performance. It would help if redline would be that early and some 20, 30 km/h buffer until top speed would be it. Running an engine at red line top speed for a longer period is definately unhealthy and hurts me. But sometimes you need to go from A to B as quick as possible. I hoped some tuners will address that issue (hardware not ECU-magic) but haven´t seen anything as of yet sadly. Stay safe
Definitely, I'd love it have just that bit more power, not a lot more, just a bit more. That said, on the trip back from Bulgaria I was flat out on it most of the way, holding it on the redline up the mountains and to be honest I think it's pretty happy there and I don't worry about engine longevity. They take a bit of thrashing to loosen up but once lose they really do like to rev. (hopefully she doesn't blow up tomorrow!).
What about low end power? does it stall in 1st gear now? I feel 1st is not low enough so I don´t want to make it any higher. But I´d love to have a longer 5th....
@@rodrigoruffa7460 You are right.. I agree it's not perfect.. but you make that sacrifice in order for a much better on road experience.. I've never stalled it .. it might be similar to starting off in 2nd..and although I can hit 80 mph on the motorway, it's the 50 mph to 70 mph where it excels.. it's so much more relaxed.. it will never be fast.. in fact, it's the slowest bike I've ever owned.. but the gear change has turned into a keeper... Rather than a change in 12 months bike..
@@rodrigoruffa7460 You should at least change up a tooth on the front, or maybe 2 teeth... it takes 30 minutes to change and the front sprocket is cheap to buy.. the chain still fits fine and if you didn't like it you could change back ..
@@paulvon-stolberg361 Thank you! But I already feel like starting in 2nd :) I'd really love to lower top end RPM but without sacrificing takeoff power. Like we say here, it"s a short mattress, either you cover your head or you cover your feet! However I'll give it a try if I find a cheap 16T sprocket. Thank you!
Its really refreshing to know there is at least one value for money option out there, because all the other brands offer virtually zero value for money. Bike prices from the main stream are way overpriced.
The Himalayan is not one of the biggest selling models in the RE stable. The Classic probably outsells everything else, but adventure travel is increasing in India and across the world. RE is in a great position to update the Himalayan with a bit more power and refinement. The Yamaha T700 is on similar lines, with limited electronics and a cheaper price. RE could even undercut them tbh.
Well I found this very interesting Wrong side of 65 so getting old "sorry am old" Want a bike to get me around not too heavy not too light both feet on the ground is good You can get an engine enhancement kit for these now giving much more power so very very interested Infact I honestly think it's the way to go Simple to maintain easy to ride from what i can gather What's not to like about this bus ???? Thanks for the upload helped me make my mind up Cheers 1!!!!!
You should definitely have more subs. If you can link up with a few of the bigger vloggers in the UK like TMF for a vloggers meet up episode I think it'll definitely assist grow the channel. Look forward to reading your book soon 🤘
Bitchin Awesome!!!! Enjoy your new bike, and share many videos with us 👍🏽 Just so you know, it is “Himaaa-luh-yun”. Not, “Him-a-luh-yun”. Though, like Napoleon said, “What’s in a name ...”
Just what I did, I now have the Guzzi in winter storage and will use the Himalaya through the winter. I love it, complete contrast to the California and best of all no chrome to polish.
Yep. Royal Enfield are the only company interesting me lately. Its the simplicity and honesty that shines through against all others rushing for more and more tech that exactly who needs or wants?.......
I'm pleased you've uploaded new content Nathan, I like your down to earth practical approach. I discovered you whilst looking for the Himalayan on here, then found Itchy Bits and have been following her travels with interest. The appeal of the Himalayan for me firstly, was how it looks. I think it looks like the most amazingly practical bike possibly ever produced. I like the idea of it's comparatively simple single cylinder engine, with oil cooler. If an oil cooler is sufficient in India, it should certainly be more than adequate in the UK/European climate. On top of all of that it does about 75Mpg! I've gotten to the stage where I need to test ride one, and decide wether or not it'll be my next bike. Any recommendations for a "good" dealership? Finally, have you posted videos of your 2019 Garbagerun tours anywhere?
I've always used Cooperb in Northampton. Iain and Jack and their mechanic Pete are passionate about the bikes and know them inside and out. There are other good dealers but they would be my first choice.
@@nathanthepostman Ha, I thought you might say that, thanks for the reply. I suppose I'm being lazy and wanted somewhere closer to East Yorkshire. I'll get in touch with them within the next week.
Great and honest opinion, thank you. I have an euro 4 Himalayan and so far so good with 11 thousand km rode. 60 % of the time off-road and no damages or issues. After the bike get wash, looks and feel as brand new.
Really bad move by Suzuki UK,..😳..really good video,honest no BS,and bang on regarding Royal Enfield customers,there in a unique position with there bikes at the moment,and to be seen listening and improving the bikes when customers tell them there problems would make a huge difference to brand loyalty,especially for the sake of a £10 head bearing improvement or copper gasket..imo😊🇬🇧
The new Himalayan 450 is the next bike I purchase after the launch. Coming down from a 1200cc Triumph, but the RE will work perfectly in Southeast Asia where I'm retiring to.
Years ago I had an SP370 Suzuki. To this day I still miss that bike. As I get older im looking at this bike to replace my Mk2 1200 Bandit as an any time of year daily bike. Upright riding position, simple maintenance, comfy,? Most of my riding is non main road so looking like a good option.
nathan, do you know if the enfield bullet 500 is the same engine design as the himalayan 650? or is the himalayan the only one they updated? enginewise, always liked the bullet 500, if its just as reliable as your previous himalyan 650, i would get one the next minute ^^
I mentioned a the possibility of a 650 Himalayan on a site where RE was responding directly. They responded to my comment rather aggressively with "We're NOT building a 650 Himalayan!" I guess that reflects Nathan's take on RE toward the H as well.
All of the new small bikes from the big companies are very slim, very light. THey feel like less of a bike. The Himalayan feels like from the days that bikes are used for transport even that long stroke engine is nothing like that they do today. I like it very much and will get one soon
U r spot on rental bikes having fractures,having no history about there maintenance and how riders ride this bike in a tough terrain...any bike could be at fault..
Good honest update, thanks Nathan! Money aside, would you swop it for a KTM 790 adventure? That’s my dilemma... need a reliable mid size bike for a pan Americas adventure and head/budget says Himalayan but so tempted by the KTM....
No I wouldn't. I was underwhelmed by the ktm when riding alongside it. It just doesn't look or impress like a £12k bike should. The owner of it wasnt keen either. He planned to trade it in when he got back. The adventure r is definitely a weapon but it's a bit peaky and exotic for me. Best bet is to get a test ride on one if you can.
Hmm.....head gasket leak you say? If I’m not mistaken, checking your head bolt torque at certain intervals is in the scheduled maintenance program. I think most of the people(if not all)who have reliability issues with their REs don’t follow the scheduled maintenance properly. I’ve seen a lot of videos where people buy a brand new Himalayan and just take right off on a long, long road trip cruising at well over the recommended cruising speed without bothering to break in the engine and tranny. FOLLOW THE RECCOMENDED MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE!!!
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Test drove the GT650 and the Himalayan two days ago and came home with a red and black Himalayan with panniers. Very happy with it...early 🎄 present. Merry Christmas ☃️
As informative as ever with absolutely no bullshit; no loud music and no 'look at me' poses.
People who want the Himalayan to be "more" just don't get it. It is relatively light weight, appropriately powered for the mission, handles dirt roads brilliantly with a suspension that for most people needs no additional tinkering. No, you can't break the rear wheel loose with the throttle and flat track around the corners, but this is not a smooth move when help is an airlift away where this bike was designed to go. Most importantly you can get both feet flat on the ground. Those who worship ground clearance must not ride in the real dirt. If you haven't tried to dab a correction on the downhill side of an off camber rut and found that 550+ lbs of motor might be a bit much to thrust quickly then you aren't going the places this bike was designed to run. This bike was designed to be accessible. A 70 year old friend who hasn't ridden in 8 years just bought one with panniers and brush busters for $6300 out the door. He is short, over weight and under skilled for the dirt but this bike is perfect. Both feet on the ground, no sudden power shifts to upset a rusty rider and enough tractability to allow him to go where he feels comfortable. I rode it briefly and while it could use a bit heavier flywheel for the really slow stuff I thought it handled a washboard deeper gravel dirt road at a spirited pace extremely well, brilliantly actually. A more skilled rider can extract a higher level of performance. If you want more, be prepared to spend twice the amount to get more, and maybe not do the job as well. I have one in my near future.
@alan bane alan I'm on my second Himalayan. I've most likely done a lot more miles on one than you have. I clearly 'get' it. I bought the powertronic to see if it was beneficial as some people were saying. It wasnt.
@alan bane Have a few ,,,, .... ;;;; :::: '''' and make life easier for those who have to read your ramblings.
you can definitely still reliably slide it, anything slides as soon as you get some lean and throttle :)
I agree, there is always this dumb pursuit for 'more'. If you need a bigger bike get an Africa Twin or preferebly take less junk . People have gone around the world on Honda C90's, just get the best out of what you have and pay less carnet fees!
@@derekm6236 you choose to read it you could have varnished your wife’s toenails instead 🎈
I have one my wife has one. 2019 bikes. 3000 miles under our belt not one issue great bikes
I found this to be one of your better conversations on the Himalayan. Especially appreciated the last few minutes. You've certainly graduated from the early class of Himalayan owners and came out a more matured, experienced, confident spokesperson. Finally logged a couple thousand adventure/gravel/mud miles myself, and it did a lot to improve my understanding of this bike's place in the market and true nature and ability. Haven't caught up to you in that regard, but closer every day. If you get a chance to ride in Alaska, say up to Deadhorse and Prudhoe Bay, I'd gladly do the ride again on the Himalayan and tag along for company. Take the spare bedroom if you need as well. 🙂👍🍻
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Waiting to see ur RE rew in Alaskan hills. 😍
Hey Justin. I just bought my new Himmy last week from NW Moto like you. Should be delivered in January, so I won't get to ride it till May. It would be awesome if we could met up with Noraly next summer when she makes it to Alaska and do a ride together. Let me know if you get over toward Skagway.
That’s biking brotherhood right there!!! 🍻
I agree, I love adventure bikes and can't afford these bikes with huge tags that come with them! That's what cought my attention with the himalayan, the price. And then I loved the looks, then I started loving the whole thing! Came across a 2 month old one with 400 miles on it at a dealer for 3.5k financed it on the spot! That was a year ago and never looked back, the lack of power really doesn't bother me at all, I knew it before I bought it, so that in mind I can not fault the bike one bit, love it!!!
Wow, these are so expensive! In india you can get a new at 2800$
@@mdzaid5925 is that American dollars?? That's about £2000!! UK tax and transport is probably most of that make up! I will still shed a tear though lol
@@mdzaid5925 USA you get warranty support for 2 or 3 years. The roadside assistance in that you get with it also adds to the cost. I also think there are some components that are better made for US/Europe market - all this adds up.
I just laugh when anyone say lack of power... You should ride main stream Indian bikes, they come with 100CC engines... My whole life I have ridden these and now I plan for Himalayan... It would be a big step up for me...😁 Otherwise it's all perspective, glass half full, half empty! Choose your glass... The inner happiness that matters. Ride on mate!
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Hi Nathan thank you for your videos my Himalayan was delivered yesterday looking forward to some good times, also fitted the Cool Cover , please keep up your great work
An honest appraisal and no rants against RE. As for frames breaking I have still seen no actual numbers, just hearsay.
Currently on a ride through France, Spain and Portugal (all on backroads) on my Himalayan. Our paths nearly crossed in Croatia/Bosnia when I was there on my KTM RC8. My Himalayan would have been a better choice considering the "roads" we rode on. Best of luck with your future trips.
I've just taken delivery of my himalayan, it's underpowered but every time I've riden it its put a smile on my face, it's a lot more confident inspiring on the loose stuff than my other bike (gs1200) and if I do drop it at least I'll be able to pick it up. Looking forward to doing some adventures on it soon
hi nathan glad you are keeping well.read your postie bike book,a few years ago and also met you at an hill climb meeting.you are a genuine bloke.regards john.
I've been over the Himalayas this year on the RE Classic nearly 2000 miles and the only bike that broke down was a KTM, so for me I will keep my Classic and my Himalayan bikes. Only problem I've had with the Himalayan is the clocks get condensation, which was renewed and the head gasket leaked, but repaired on warranty . The only con with the bike is that's it's not super fast, but on the flip side, you won't lose your licence, and you enjoy the ride more and you wont kill yourself unlike other bikes, if you have the power, you tend to use it. The bike is very comfy, you can load it up with all your gear, cheap to buy, run and maintain,and its basic. Its also great for off road, as you can handle it very easily due to being light, and can stand up all day and be very comfy.
Morning Nat,
Always great to get your spin on things Still preping my Himalayan just made a custom Diy universal rack plate with a built in camera pole as per ( itchy boots ) but free ( lol ) we like a bit of free stuff, still keeping my eyes peeled for a UK based trip with your good self be great if you made a Video with available dates for 2019 - 2020 if your anything like me it's any excuse to get out of the house spin the wife on one more trip this year to get a few quid together for Christmas stay safe Brother Atb. Roach
Thanks for the review. This is a bike ( and manufacturer) that I have been following closely recently. I really like the fact that they can produce a quality product at a price that an average rider can afford. I would love for them to continue development of the Himalayan series, improving the current model and developing new models as well. I think that, at least in the states, a larger single would sell quite well. There are a lot of KLR 650-type riders out there that are going to be in the market for a replacement bike. With the KLR gone, a larger displacement Himalayan would be, in my opinion, an ideal replacement.
Looksnlike RE is listening, i heard that they are working on a larger single cylinder engine for the himalayan
@@Alab.A Now that would be awesome.
I agree with all you have to say about the Himalayan so i`m not going to repeat what you`ve said except that it`s the most confidence inspiring bike for the money and if i break this one i`ll buy another.
Great vid, with no BS. Glad to see your back on a Himi. I bought mine and then injured myself at work so cant ride it, only 200 miles on the clock. Roll on 2020 so i can get back out on the trails. Ride safe Nathan.
Good update....totally agree with you on the Himalayan. A mate of mine has one and it's terrific. We rode a selection of lanes last week...I was on my XR650R and there was nothing I rode that the Himalayan didn't or couldn't. And on the little back roads of West Sussex and Hampshire linking up the lanes it was great...flicking along at a decent pace. Check out a channel called 'GS Vintage ' beautiful filming and all on a Himalayan. Cheers, Steve
Hello there I am Ujjwal pradhan from Sikkim a small Himalayan state in the North Easte India and I am a royal Enfield Himalayan rider since 2017 and have ridden about 17000 km on it in the Himalayan ranges across Nepal ,Bhutan and India and it is amazing bike it has taken me to breath taking places with a view and never let me down ,much love for the Royal Enfield Himalayan all around the world ❤️ #royalenfield #himalayan
I see you comment everywhere. ❤️
If I ever get a stable income (local economy sucks) I'm totally upgrading to a Hymalayan
All the best!
Thank you so much for your impressions. This is the first review I’ve seen with this much real world experienced rider analysis.
As to RE’s wanting to go bigger... this is phenomenon is what has stunted Harley Davidson. HOW FREAKING HUGE DOES A BIKE GOTTA BE!
I like the Himalayan as it’ll do everything I need without overkill, I most likely won’t get into trouble with it from too much power and my girlfriend can possibly ride it as well. Best of all, it’s a great price... I can’t stress that enough as you know the others like it all bigger are also much more expensive... to the point where I can get a RE Himalayan or I can walk.
Note: as an American from the northwest I initially had a hard time following your patterns of speech. I’ll probably have to watch this twice to catch it all.
Yes I would certainly not like that to go up to 800 or 1200 or heaven forbid, 1300 like some of them are going. Another 10bhp would do me. Just so I can poke along on the motorway without having to run it flat out all the time. As you say though, the price is the biggest draw, so whatever they do they've got to keep that low in order to keep it popular.
Compared to Keith Richards, Nathan is a brilliantly clear speaker.. 😉
For real Third World experience watch; Itchy Boots.
I've still got my original also. After two summers riding it, I still am loving it also. If I had a wish, it'd be same as you on maybe a 6th gear or a 20 hp upgrade to 650 single or double. Overall though, It's saving me $200 a month in gas over driving my F150 and I have fun using it. I personally in 4k + miles haven't had a single breakdown or issue. I think a new set of tires will go on her next spring, but other than that, I'm very happy with it.
I would love to see the Himalayan with the RE 650 twin engine available. That would really challenge the adventure motorcycle world. Especially if they can still keep the price down. That would be a brilliant motorcycle to own. The rumor is it is coming. We will see.
Aye aye sir, totally agree with you!!
Weight will be an issue. If they can manage to keep the weight the same as the current model and put the 650 engine, the. It'll be a winner.
All they need to do is make it about 40 hp, 650 engine would make it far too heavy.
@@hagarthehorrible1391 they afraid for the reliability issue that's why it take soo much time
@alan bane 4200 on the road in UK.
Great to see you back in the fold Nathan, as usual a breath of fresh air, hope RE are listening
Great to hear the truth from someone that obviously cares. I have been looking at the Himalayan and despite its faults I agree with you in almost everything you have said. RE made their name with the singles for decades but their eye does seem to be on the twins and bigger engines. Shame if they lose their loyal base because they do want to be bigger outside India where they are massive but they should take a break and look at what they could improve. Thanks for your valid opinion
Excellent feedback, I just send this to the top level folks at RE USA. Love to see RE succeed in the US.
Just bought a little Himalayan today after plenty of research. Test ride was impressive. A breath of fresh air away from the highly advanced laptops on wheels in the adventure bike class.
Thank you for this. I've just come back from riding around Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, and back to Tanzania, on a hired Himalayan. The bike was well-worn and had many faults (and tubed tyres!). But it kept going no matter the terrain, sounded lovely, was comfortable, and the mpg was excellent. There is something captivating about this 'primitive' machine.
Bloody great to hear this..l am tempted to go to UK (Derby) to buy one..been really struggling with a bully in work and am so ready to hit the road to clear my head...l saw one for sale for £3,950 with 500 miles on the the clock..thanks for the up beat message..
My primary bike is a Triumph T120. Outstanding road bike and tourer. I am retiring soon and moving to AZ. So many new unimproved, desert/dirt roads to explore! As a result, seriously considering adding a Himalayan to my garage. Thanks for great vid.
Good update on the RE Himalayan. I'll be keeping an eye out for any planned Lands End to John O' Groats trips scheduled for 2020.
Would like to participate in one of those trips.☘
When I started riding trails only on my honda xl250 ..never decades later did think I'd find somet similar well how wrong was I. ...thank you RE...himalayan 👍👍👍👍👍cheers from dave
why only 7k subs ? this channel deserves your subscription guys
I can't get enough of mine at the moment. Great vid buddy 🍻
Thank you for the clarification of the Powertronic option. I was hoping you'd touch on that seeming you now have long mile experience with and without. 👍
Still got my Himalayan (chopped in my Multistrada for it) and have absolutely no intention of selling it. Everything Nathan says about this bike rings true to me and after nearly 40 years of riding I have learnt so much more about riding now I have so little BHP to pay with. Have to say that for the rural roads here in central France where I now live I ride it more than my Griso (although that brings a different smile to my face on a sunny day!). I'm currently working out how to ship it to NZ for a 4 week trip for my 60th next year. Your book is also excellent by the way.
Might be cheaper just renting one in NZ.
David Dixon
Buy a new bike in NZ, sell it when done... still be cheaper than shipping both ways.
EDIT: just take your gear as buying new gear just for the one month trip would be spendy (unless it’s time to replace gear anyway and you’re gonna pack it home.)
How do you like the Griso, two shops in my state have new 2017 models, and the price is so cheap I’m thinking I need to grab one before the summer?
Did you end up going to NZ?
I was so fixated on buying a used Doctor, but now after watching so many videos on Himalayan the more and more i think maybe this bike is the way to go. Nice watch Nathan, keep them coming!
Great video, thanks! You nailed it by saying it made the same trip as the big BMW GS, and rode the same trails as the Husky. Exactly why I just bought one as my first bike.
Right. I've gawked at the Enfeild Himalayan! Beautiful. I think I watched a video of you Riding a CT90 or Ct110 from Aus to UK. So awesome.
Echo Nathan's sentiments. Had mine for 11 months, 14000 kms with no issue. On trials with riders of the same temperament I've had no issues keeping up with DR650 or CRF250L bikes, even with my limited off road skills. I have gone where they go. It truly puts adventure riding within the reach of everyone and the beauty of it is, after a weekend of adventure riding it takes commuting to work and back in the city in it's stride during the week.
Being honest I sat on one last Saturday, and being a tall rider at 6'3" I liked it. The only issue for me is the engine size.
I would like to see the 650 twin version.
Thanks for your video.
It's coming in 2021
we are all looking for a 650 twin based himalayan.
thats great news
I am reliably informed that the new Himalayan (if it’s even actually called that in the end) won’t be a 650 twin based bike but something new entirely...
Just get a vstrom 650
Thank you Nathan. Maybe a 'long way down' (Scotland to Greece) should be in the cards next? I can organize the far end (in Greece) if you like!
It’s a bit shit that Suzuki pulled your bike?! I have shared this vid’ with Royal Enfield on Twitter & Facebook... It’ll be interesting to see if they take note?! 👌🏻👍🏻
nathan very interesting. seems a long time ago that i bought your postie bike paperback book. have met you to say hello at the hill climb,at worcestershire ?. glad to watch your nice genuine down to earth videos on u tube. stay the same as you are a genuine person with a big passion for motorcycling.i am now 72 and still love all things motorbiking. i am thinking of buying an enfield also. a meteor perhaps.
Hi John. Hope you're well. Did you get the Meteor in the end?
Good to see you back on the RE. Strongly recommend the hyperpro suspension upgrade. Changed front and back springs and the bike feels so solid. Also changed my steering head bearings to non factory and havent had any issues since. The bike is great fun down here in NZ. Keep the vids coming!
I AGREE with you, from past 1 year RE has not done anything for himalayan they have been focusing on 650s, a much needed update on himalayan is needed and hope we get that with BS6/EURO5 models.........
I just got home from a 14 day fly and ride to the Himalayas, on a Himalayan. ABoriginaltours, check them out, GREAT company.
We were 9 riders on Himalayans and had zero issues during the 1300km trip on some of the nastiest roads I've ever seen.
No, they're not powerfull.
No, it's not a 120kg enduro bike.
It is however a very good travel bike. I just wish it would have maybe 10 more horsepower, to give some proper passing power. As it is, you get kind of stuck behind anything but a farm tractor.
I switched from a BMW R1150GSA to a Himalayan and I'm not looking back. I still have the GS and it is for sale now, as the Himalayan is damn near perfect. An engine with 40 hp would be superb on this bike. I'm a better and more confident on the RE over the BMW. You hit the nail in the head, I hope Royal Enfield sees the message and takes it to heart.
Chill bro royal Enfield Himalayan 650 is coming in 2020-21
@@nishantsingh6056 It's only a rumor so far, unconfirmed by Royal Enfield. Once it's out I might trade my Himmy for it.
@@nishantsingh6056 I thought the Himilayan was already a 650, albeit a low powered one.
@@RideWithRen it's real because in India nothing about Royal Enfield is false and this time they might use the same engine used in continental 650
@@jennydiazvigneault5548 no bro it's a refined 441 cc and it has got a punch
So rough a video yes! With dirty fingers pointing at the camera but such interesting commentary about what I see as a cult bike. For example, I watch Himalayan videos online...and not ones featuring larger adventure bikes being dropped. I'd give the thumbs up to a passing Himalayan rider knowing he/she is all about the adventure not adventure bike catalogues and accessories on an infinite budget,
Yeah u.dont get.carried.away witha.costly.costly electronic bike.basically sticking to roots
I'm from Brazil and I also have a white Himalayan. My model is 19/20, but some people are complaining about the quality control in the factory. They say that sometimes the panel gets foggy (but I think this happens in another brands as well) and there are some engine's problems. But I agree with the most of the things in the video. It's a good motorcycle with your purpose is to see landscapes and have a pleasant ride.
itchy Boots went through everything you've mentioned and still made it from India to the Netherlands.
I believe she had a few mechanical issues on route
IB regularly booked it in for a full workshop overhaul on route to Holland.
@@nathanthepostman I recall she had steering head bearing issues, which is a known problem that you mention too. I recall the other main issue was the clutch prematurely wearing but that was her own fault that she admitted to by installing taller bars and not installing longer clutch cables, so the clutch was dragging ever so slightly but still went for quite a few thousand kilometres before slipping badly enough.
@@nathanthepostman She burned out the clutch in Iran which she admitted was her fault, She had probl;ems with the steering head bearings which were replaced about every 11000km (6600 miles)
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I have 4 bikes, ( Yes I have a problem) The newest is the Himalayan, I like the bike its great for back roads but power is the biggest issue with me. Here in the US with all the Highways, keeping up with traffic is an issue when on some the speed limit is 75MPH. For long distance travel I go to my Super Tenere for back country, dirt roads the RE puts the bigger smile on my face, so much so I may sell my beloved KLR650.
That is so true, for the long distance at legal limits of 75 -80 mph here in USA a bigger adventure bike is a better fit in my opinion as well
Your only problem is riding on interstates. LOL! Plan a route of back roads and enjoy the journey. You will enjoy getting to the destination much more. :)
@@Dave-sw2dm No doubt but its all about time....or lack there of....Interstates are just necessary evils when you have only a few days.
Good vid! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think you are spot on with your comments about where the himilayan sits in the market. It is what it is and does everything to the best of it's ability. I agree that with a bit more bhp and a little more ground clearance this would enhance the product. Still keeping the single thumper engine design just sort out those " niggles" with the engine and the frame and i think the customers will continue to buy. IF? i'm like any other average motorcycle owner over the years i have more than one motorcycle at any one time and the Himilayan is reasonably cheap enough to have as an addition and not as an" only bike "so the lack of power wouldn't be an issue. I'm old school so a lack of technology on the bike and the simplicity actually invites my curiosity. Keep up the reviews you are very watchable... and thanks for revealing your hands where dirty from painting and not oily as i first thought you where in the middle of an engine rebuild....😉👍🏍
you bought your second , I just can´t wait to get my first one (sleet) . your review confirms my decision to buy one. now I´m fidgety all the time 😁
The message here, and thank you Nathan!, this is a great bike with so much potential ... if only. RE, please take heed and make those adjustments and you WILL reap the rewards from a loyal following and potential converts. Nathan echoes many other riders experienced with this bike.
You're making a hell of a lot of good solid sense with your comments Nathan.
I and many others who are also currently thinking of also becoming Himalayan owners just really, really hope, that Royal Enfield is, ..LISTENING.. and ..ACTING.. upon your own very valid feedback and suggestions on how they can still, easily improve this bike, and thereby further cement for themselves 'a true cult following' and an unswerving global brand allegiance for their new generation of RE bikes.
I also absolutely agree that in 'today's world' where more and more people are in reality finding it increasingly difficult financially, to justify spending money on, any vehicles, that it would be an absolutely fatal mistake now for RE to also simply follow other bike manufacturers down their chosen paths of ever higher-tech, and ever higher-pricing, when it comes to the development their new models of RE bikes.
If they were to do this then I think that their own somewhat unique market segment success would quickly evaporate as their own RE brand bikes then simply became just yet another overpriced and increasingly unaffordable and increasingly difficult to maintain bike, in an already very over-crowded market that's already filled with other competing company brands that already fit that description.
And so, just in case RE are, indeed now listening, to their current, and future generation of customers own feedback and suggestions, my very own suggestion would be for a modest increase in the new model Himalayan's horsepower, while keeping the very good and usable low speed Torque there as well, along with the inclusion an additional 6th ratio final overdrive-gear for improved high speed highway use when having to cover long road transit distances, whilst not simultaneously flogging the motor out at almost continual red-line revs, as is the current situation with the bike.
Maybe, increasing the next model Himalayan's engine capacity to 500cc but, still, keeping it as an 'under-square and single lunged thumper', would fill that bill very nicely..?
Just put a booster plug on my Himalayan and it’s transformed it’s performance - smoother, accelerates hard and faster in every gear and runs cooler, I can’t recommend them enough 😃👍🏻
Great to hear the improvement. I tried a powertronic but didn't get any measurable improvement. I'm probably just going to leave this one stock, although running cooler would be good
nathanthepostman, for me the powertronic was just too complicated, booster plug was a 15 min install and well worth the £130 outlay and it doesn’t stall any more either, possibly because it makes the fuel richer by 6%, but this is negligible on the fuel consumption 👍🏻
@@KRAM-zb2vc yeah it was a faff the powertronic, which is why I took it off. Mine doesn't stall so I'm pretty happy with it as is. Maybe another 5bhp wouldn't go amiss!
nathanthepostman, give the booster plug a try 👍🏻
Hey Nathan
Love your vids, very inteligent, informative , honest, and just the right amount of emotion.
I really want to get my hands on this bike , but probably like everyone eles interested in touring, the highway speeds and power limitations are a concern. I live in northern Nevada , wide open roads and the long distances of the South West and the passes of the Sierra Nevada mountains.... Anyway Can you give us your thoughts on the sprocket modifications please ?
My buddy put a 1 tooth up on his KLR and 80 mph no worries !!! Will it affect the tractor factor that much that this isn't a option ?
Thanks
I spoke to you briefly at the NEC last year to ask what you thought of the Himalayan. Your answer was " it's four grand ,just buy one" so I did. No regrets!
Have to admire that sort of no-bull response. 🙂
I hope RE take on board your comments. Was going to replace my Tiger1050 this year but I love that bike, decided to keep it so I brought a CRF250 Rally, have to say I am not disappointed.
Thanks Nathan. An absolutely spot-on realistic assessment of the Himalayan. A telling comment on Enfield's attitude towards the Himalayan too. I've done 4000 miles on mine in a year without any problems (apart from occasional stalling at tickover). I don't thrash it and I don't fiddle around needlessly with it. Would I have another? Absolutely.
I took a test ride last week. Off to the dealer tuesday to buy one in red/black. 69 years old and my first new bike.
Just rode the new 450, bought a 411 - delivery this week, excited
Sat in Alicante watching your great video. Bikes at Gatwick with its upgraded steering. Only hassle is i had to buy the bearings myself as I needed the wheels for the airport. Went to intruder motorcycles here and the chap told me he always chooses the Himi for trips to town rather than HD & Indian.
Mine spends it's weekend pottering around the south downs national park. It's bloody excellent, my mods are EBC brake pads -a bit better. BMC air filter-no real difference but wtf! I love it only thing is why doesn't my compass work lol !
Jim Gooding If your Himalayan was in for service and the battery was disconnected then the Compass will not work until it is re calibrated! The workshop should do it before it is collected by the customer ( that's if it was in for servicing). If it just happened while riding it, you can do it yourself. Firstly if you were practicing figure of eights on the bike, like in a car park or lots of very tight slow turns, this manoeuvring WILL knock off the compass calibration. You can re set this in two ways, one switch on the ignition and run a magnet in a circle over the compass. This usually sorts it back to normal after a few miles riding, or ride the bike in a figure of eight in a car park, again this usually resets it again after a few miles of riding normal. Just give it a try, I have done this on several occasions when I have disconnected the battery when fitting electronic extras. I can always get the compass back on in this way and I have checked it against another large hand held compass for accuracy! Hope this is of use to you.
.....nothing to add to that! Good man, I'll get back to you when I eventually get around to fitting my Powertronic.....
Nice reviews matey, I'm getting one now, cant collect till this all clears up, but at least I know I've got her..
Great vlog. Especially the last 3-4 minutes. Only reason i have not bought one yet - waiting for the T7... regards from NE Thailand.
The T7 is exactly twice the price of a Himalayan here in Canada. I'm rich,but frugal. I'm buying the RE.
@@davidgiles5030 apples and oranges. Cannot compare the two.
I think the real game changer this year, the simple, anti electronics brigade, KLR XR DR 650 replacement, is the Tenere 700.
I'm sure the Tenere 700 is a brilliant bike, but at $10k US it replaces my annual travel budget in the bargain. I end up with a big, powerful machine I can only ride to the store to buy the ramen noodles I'll be eating for the foreseeable future.
Hey Nathan, enjoyed the video. I work with Royal Enfield and wanted to get in touch.
Hey Adarsh. Thanks for the message. Head to my website and drop me a message if you like; www.nathanmillward.com
Hey Adarsh, is it true that the next Himalayan will have a 450 cc single tuned for around 40 bhp?
Thank you in advance
And hi Nathan, enjoyed this post a lot. You nailed it with the ending bit. I hope RE take your feedbacks seriously.
Had a Triumph Tiger 1200 XCa, latest model, bought new with lots of bells and whistles. Sold it after 18 months and 8000 miles and got a Himalayan BS4: couldn't be happier. Should it ever break badly (which I hope it won't) I think I'll buy another one. I can get up to four for the price of the Triumph, and have four times the fun in the process 😁. The fact that I'm close to my sixties may have played a role in the decision, I don't know. Anyway, my riding style is much like Noraly's Itchy Boots and IMHO the REH fits that purpose like no others. Plus you hardly get speed tickets with it 😁. To the average Joe Rider (like myself) those big ADV bikes make one dream of adventures, the Himalayan makes one do them. And, no, I'm not hoping for a 650 twin version, or I'd rather go for a Yamaha T7.
That was a great no-fuss review. I hope RE hears those practical comments.
Just rode Himalyan in the Himalayas. Just loved the bike. It's cutome made for off roading. Agree its bit underpowered, but it's meant for off road conditions. Rode 600 miles on it & Just loved it. Excellent handling. Can't wait for Himalyan 650.
RE HIMALAYAN as the name suggests built tough like THE GREAT HIMALAYAN RANGES OF INDIA. In extreme off roading conditions like in Leh Ladakh , I would suggest Nathan you should go on Leh Ladakh off roading on Himalayan where it's not just the test of bike but the real test of human endurance. Please come to India you would fell in love with Leh Ladakh trail. Heaven for offroading
Look at BMW gear boxes all seizing on their new bikes, all being recalled. Substandard parts.
Awesome and knowledgable video ... fantastic. I sold my beloved XT600z a few weeks ago and miss it like mad ... been thinking about getting another but these Himalayan's just keep calling me! should I or shouldn't I? I can get a decent Xt for £4500 but I seem to see decnt low mileage RE's for less ... I need to make a decision arghhhhhhhh!
I'm collecting my new Himalayan next week €4600 new on the road, really looking forward getting it. I've owned very many bikes over the years including the BMW Gs 1100, V Strom 650, Bultaco 150s, greeves 350. Many dt 125 and mx 175s, Suzuki ts 125 and many other off road bikes, I won't mention on road bikes or Ile be writing all day lol. Why did I pick the Himalayan, well I'm almost 60 years now and have back injuries and I'm a short ass with 29" inner, the bike is perfect for me, I'm done with the fast bikes and tall positions. I want my feet close to the ground, I want easy maintenance that I will do myself, no water pumps and associated stuff, pipes and radiators, I don't understand all the people here saying put the twin 650 in the Himalayan, why do that, making it just another clone of so many other bigger bikes. Personality I would much prefer they stay single cylinder. Keep that big thumper sound and grunt, OK increase the capacity to maybe 600, 650, but single cylinder. People who want a twin engine just don't get it regarding the whole concept of this wonderful simple machine. And regarding frame problems..... I remember a certain Scotsman and Irishman breaking frames on wee bikes on a round the world trip.... I rest my case lol! Greeting from a little country town in Latvia surrounded by beautiful forests and wonderful off road tracks😎👍
I think your presenting style could best be described as "natural" (😀), for which I am grateful. Recently found you and now subscribed and bought the Sydney book. Himalayan is def my type of vibe, and am waiting for semi-retirement so I can justify buying one!!
Interesting to see that you have come back to a Himalayan, and your reasons for doing so. I am just about to buy a Himalayan for a South American trip. I am thinking about putting a grease nipple on the headstock, in the hope that the ability to regularly grease the bearing will make it last longer. Have you met anyone who has done this, or considered it yourself?
Hi Nathan, great vid - the Hima is simply perfect - low price, highly capable, does everything, brings you anywhere safe and sound. The only issue I´ve is as you stated - performance. It would help if redline would be that early and some 20, 30 km/h buffer until top speed would be it. Running an engine at red line top speed for a longer period is definately unhealthy and hurts me. But sometimes you need to go from A to B as quick as possible. I hoped some tuners will address that issue (hardware not ECU-magic) but haven´t seen anything as of yet sadly. Stay safe
16 tooth front sprocket brings your highway rpms down about 500 rpm. top speeds seem to be about the same, 140ish indicated.
Definitely, I'd love it have just that bit more power, not a lot more, just a bit more. That said, on the trip back from Bulgaria I was flat out on it most of the way, holding it on the redline up the mountains and to be honest I think it's pretty happy there and I don't worry about engine longevity. They take a bit of thrashing to loosen up but once lose they really do like to rev. (hopefully she doesn't blow up tomorrow!).
@@nathanthepostman exactly the same over here - not sure if the marketing line "build like a gun" still applies to the Hima - we'll see. Stay safe
@@TheQ427 for RE H marketing line is 'Built for all roads. Built for no roads' in India atleast. :p
I changed the sprocket sizes.. it has completely changed the feel of the bike.. much more relaxed cruising speed.. why has no one else done this?
What about low end power? does it stall in 1st gear now? I feel 1st is not low enough so I don´t want to make it any higher. But I´d love to have a longer 5th....
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You are right.. I agree it's not perfect.. but you make that sacrifice in order for a much better on road experience.. I've never stalled it .. it might be similar to starting off in 2nd..and although I can hit 80 mph on the motorway, it's the 50 mph to 70 mph where it excels.. it's so much more relaxed.. it will never be fast.. in fact, it's the slowest bike I've ever owned.. but the gear change has turned into a keeper... Rather than a change in 12 months bike..
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You should at least change up a tooth on the front, or maybe 2 teeth... it takes 30 minutes to change and the front sprocket is cheap to buy.. the chain still fits fine and if you didn't like it you could change back ..
@@paulvon-stolberg361 Thank you! But I already feel like starting in 2nd :) I'd really love to lower top end RPM but without sacrificing takeoff power. Like we say here, it"s a short mattress, either you cover your head or you cover your feet! However I'll give it a try if I find a cheap 16T sprocket. Thank you!
Because low-down pull is not what most people buy this bike for.
Its really refreshing to know there is at least one value for money option out there, because all the other brands offer virtually zero value for money. Bike prices from the main stream are way overpriced.
The Himalayan is not one of the biggest selling models in the RE stable. The Classic probably outsells everything else, but adventure travel is increasing in India and across the world. RE is in a great position to update the Himalayan with a bit more power and refinement.
The Yamaha T700 is on similar lines, with limited electronics and a cheaper price. RE could even undercut them tbh.
Well I found this very interesting Wrong side of 65 so getting old "sorry am old" Want a bike to get me around not too heavy not too light both feet on the ground is good
You can get an engine enhancement kit for these now giving much more power so very very interested Infact I honestly think it's the way to go Simple to maintain easy to ride
from what i can gather What's not to like about this bus ???? Thanks for the upload helped me make my mind up Cheers 1!!!!!
You should definitely have more subs. If you can link up with a few of the bigger vloggers in the UK like TMF for a vloggers meet up episode I think it'll definitely assist grow the channel. Look forward to reading your book soon 🤘
Bitchin Awesome!!!!
Enjoy your new bike, and share many videos with us 👍🏽
Just so you know, it is “Himaaa-luh-yun”. Not, “Him-a-luh-yun”.
Though, like Napoleon said, “What’s in a name ...”
Excellent summary of the bike. If I had the money and a bigger garage I'd get one to sit alongside the Guzzi.
Just what I did, I now have the Guzzi in winter storage and will use the Himalaya through the winter. I love it, complete contrast to the California and best of all no chrome to polish.
Yep. Royal Enfield are the only company interesting me lately. Its the simplicity and honesty that shines through against all others rushing for more and more tech that exactly who needs or wants?.......
I'm pleased you've uploaded new content Nathan, I like your down to earth practical approach. I discovered you whilst looking for the Himalayan on here, then found Itchy Bits and have been following her travels with interest. The appeal of the Himalayan for me firstly, was how it looks. I think it looks like the most amazingly practical bike possibly ever produced. I like the idea of it's comparatively simple single cylinder engine, with oil cooler. If an oil cooler is sufficient in India, it should certainly be more than adequate in the UK/European climate. On top of all of that it does about 75Mpg! I've gotten to the stage where I need to test ride one, and decide wether or not it'll be my next bike. Any recommendations for a "good" dealership? Finally, have you posted videos of your 2019 Garbagerun tours anywhere?
I've always used Cooperb in Northampton. Iain and Jack and their mechanic Pete are passionate about the bikes and know them inside and out. There are other good dealers but they would be my first choice.
@@nathanthepostman Ha, I thought you might say that, thanks for the reply. I suppose I'm being lazy and wanted somewhere closer to East Yorkshire. I'll get in touch with them within the next week.
Great and honest opinion, thank you. I have an euro 4 Himalayan and so far so good with 11 thousand km rode. 60 % of the time off-road and no damages or issues. After the bike get wash, looks and feel as brand new.
Really bad move by Suzuki UK,..😳..really good video,honest no BS,and bang on regarding Royal Enfield customers,there in a unique position with there bikes at the moment,and to be seen listening and improving the bikes when customers tell them there problems would make a huge difference to brand loyalty,especially for the sake of a £10 head bearing improvement or copper gasket..imo😊🇬🇧
Good Report, as usual! Greetings from Germany
Youve stumbled upon the secret to the success of the Himalayan. Which bike is "the best" all-arounder? The one you can afford, that is still running.
The new Himalayan 450 is the next bike I purchase after the launch. Coming down from a 1200cc Triumph, but the RE will work perfectly in Southeast Asia where I'm retiring to.
Years ago I had an SP370 Suzuki. To this day I still miss that bike. As I get older im looking at this bike to replace my Mk2 1200 Bandit as an any time of year daily bike. Upright riding position, simple maintenance, comfy,? Most of my riding is non main road so looking like a good option.
nathan, do you know if the enfield bullet 500 is the same engine design as the himalayan 650? or is the himalayan the only one they updated? enginewise, always liked the bullet 500, if its just as reliable as your previous himalyan 650, i would get one the next minute ^^
With R and D shifting to UK, staffed by some highly capable staff, RE will only get better. The new twins are proof of this.
I mentioned a the possibility of a 650 Himalayan on a site where RE was responding directly. They responded to my comment rather aggressively with "We're NOT building a 650 Himalayan!" I guess that reflects Nathan's take on RE toward the H as well.
All of the new small bikes from the big companies are very slim, very light. THey feel like less of a bike. The Himalayan feels like from the days that bikes are used for transport even that long stroke engine is nothing like that they do today. I like it very much and will get one soon
U r spot on rental bikes having fractures,having no history about there maintenance and how riders ride this bike in a tough terrain...any bike could be at fault..
Good honest update, thanks Nathan! Money aside, would you swop it for a KTM 790 adventure? That’s my dilemma... need a reliable mid size bike for a pan Americas adventure and head/budget says Himalayan but so tempted by the KTM....
No I wouldn't. I was underwhelmed by the ktm when riding alongside it. It just doesn't look or impress like a £12k bike should. The owner of it wasnt keen either. He planned to trade it in when he got back. The adventure r is definitely a weapon but it's a bit peaky and exotic for me. Best bet is to get a test ride on one if you can.
16:14 Have the issues you've described been addressed in the latest (2020) version?
Hmm.....head gasket leak you say? If I’m not mistaken, checking your head bolt torque at certain intervals is in the scheduled maintenance program. I think most of the people(if not all)who have reliability issues with their REs don’t follow the scheduled maintenance properly. I’ve seen a lot of videos where people buy a brand new Himalayan and just take right off on a long, long road trip cruising at well over the recommended cruising speed without bothering to break in the engine and tranny. FOLLOW THE RECCOMENDED MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE!!!
The bike was serviced according to schedule. You get a weep from the two bolts on the left but that's not the head gasket failing.
Very interested in your thoughts on how the Himalayan compares to a Rally Raid CB500X for long distance adventure travel.
Now that looks a nice bike.