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- Overview of the new Copper Free Brake System required for California and Washington cars to be sold new. This option can be added on to any car in any state for just $500.
SS1le Will get the same setup as the CT5V-Blacking and specs below:
Front: Brembo monobloc all-aluminum six-piston caliper (M6.30/34/38)
Copper-free brake pads, pad area 142cm2
398x 36 mm cast-iron two-piece disc, disc weighs 16.6 kg
Rear Brembo two-piece all-aluminum four-piston caliper (P4.28/32)
Copper-free brake pads, pad area 42.7 cm2
Brembo 374x 28 mm cast-iron integral disc, disc weighs 11.1 kg
Brembo electronic parking brake
Brake RPOs J6G & J6M - equipped on SS and SS 1LE Models:
For the 2022 model year, Camaro SS and SS equipped with the 1LE track package (RPO A1Y) produced for California and Washington State will use brake RPOs J6H & BCD. Camaro SS and SS equipped with the 1LE track package (RPO A1Y) for all other 48 states will continue to be produced with brake RPO J6G or J6M.
Brake RPO J6H - equipped on ZL1 & ZL1 1LE Models:
For the 2022 model year, Camaro ZL1 & ZL1 1LE models produced for California and Washington State will use brake RPOs J6H & BCD. RPO BCD is the indicator that the vehicle is equipped with Copper Free brake components. Camaro ZL1 and ZL1 1LE models for all other 48 states will continue to be produced with RPO J6H (without RPO BCD).
Performance copper-free brake system, includes (J6H) Brembo 6-piston front and 4-piston rear, performance, 4-wheel antilock, 4-wheel disc brakes.
1 - Required for Ship-to states of CA and WA. Not available with (WBL) Redline Edition or the following wheels: 56M, 56R, 56W, 57S.
2 - Required for Ship-to states of CA and WA. Not available with (B2E) Shock and Steel Special Edition, (WBL) Redline Edition or the following wheels: 56M, 56R, 56W, 57S.
3 - Required for Ship-to states of CA and WA.
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I threw a ton of specs about the SS 1le brakes in the description. The SS 1le gets it's own system while the zl1/1le has their own as well as the other models. The SS 1les being the largest. Did anyone know about this? Lol
398 MM front Brake Rotor :) 374 MM Rear WOW ! Track Days Should Be FUN !
That’s not correct. All the variants that get the BCD copper free get all the same components EXCEPT for the different caliper colors. The sizes are all the same.
@@roadracing3 check the description and then go check the part numbers as I have. What I stated is still fact.
Just bought a 22 2SS and it has the upgraded suspension, exhaust and copper free brakes and I'm Loving the car. Brakes are insanely good!
Congrats on the beast man!
This option is a cheat code! I really wish mine had this option
I bet when those pads wear out people in other states can put some gnarly different compounds in those calipers and get some amazing performance from them!! They look awesome man!
Ya that's what I was thinking 🤔
Yessir this is exactly it. Swap pads and you have a monster
@@Hot-1LE Pad shape might be bigger ??? Read more, I found your specs !!! Thanks !!!
So what’s the cost after the sale -?
Great info! I had no idea the upgrade was that in-depth! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video dude :D As for the brakes.. if you have the ZL1 without the copper free brake system you get 390mm front rotors w/6 piston calipers and 365mm rear rotors w/4 piston rear calipers. The SS & 2SS 1LE comes with 370mm front rotors w/6 piston calipers and I think 365mm rear rotors w/4 piston rear calipers. WITH the copper free brakes (RPO BCD) the 1LE cars and the ZL1's get the slightly larger 398mm front rotors (and slightly larger calipers) and the same sized 365mm rear rotors w/4 piston rear calipers. Difference from the ZL1 with regular and with the copper free brakes isn't much and will be about equal when running the copper free pads and maybe some fraction of a foot better stopping with high performance regular pads matched to the larger setup... for the copper free setup over the regular 1LE cars it should be a decent upgrade I'd think for sure especially if someone was to swap out the copper free pads for some higher performance pads matched to the new larger sized rotors/calipers :D
Also, quoting from the official GM Service Bulletin on the copper brake system: With copper free pads: "In order to maintain the same braking performance, the
brake components have to grow in size..."
Thank you for sharing your knowledge brother!
@@Hot-1LE Anytime man! To much reading over on Camaro6 forums, lol :D
Just picked up my 2023 2ss 1le in Riverside Blue Metallic. These front rotors are no joke! Wish I would have gotten those red seatbelts though. So glad I went with the 2ss. Simpson Chevrolet in Irvine is awesome, they didn’t charge me one cent over msrp.
Stay out of their service department. Congrats on the new car.
Good to know! What do you use for the Alcantara suede and the vinyl hood? I’ve heard it wears very fast.
Glad you’re back. Congratulations! Great content
They look massive hope to see them in person soon, ordered my 2023 2ss 1LE with 21 options 😅
My only concern is track fitment for wheels. With the previous brakes you could fit an 18in wheel. As long as you can sit a 19 I will defo be on the lookout for these with my 1LE
Yup true most guys ran square 19s for track as it is, 18s look comical on these cars but def more tire options!
My 23 ss 1le got delivered about a week ago and I have the copper free brakes and they are huge. That ending was funny.
Fantastic job!!!😉
Thank you!! 🤜🤛
Today weather was same as yours at northern cali
still too hot too!
I believe Washington state has the same or similar regulations meaning they basically get California cars too
Yup your right man it's CA and Washington good call!
Fantastic video with most of the information about this 500 dollar option. Your video and evaluation of the New copper free brake system after some good fluid and a serious track day will be really great information. Did you post the rotor OD and pad shape difference ? Pistons ? same size or slightly larger ? Really COOL stuff you are talking about !!!!!!
EOS side skirts ? Thinking about purchasing soon for my 1LE
Acs
Which side skirts and side markers did you end up going with?
Acs composite
Have you replaced the break pads yet on this car and what brand did you go with ???
I didint on this car. But when i do on the zl1 which also has the copper free system ill be sticking with oem
Curious question...
I upgraded my 2ss with the copper free brakes, but i have a problem..
I switched out the regular wheels with another set of camaro rims, and they scrub against the calibers... do i need to purchase the zl1 rims..??? Because i honestly want the 1le wheels like you have... can you please help,because i really dislike those polished rims... 🤷🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾
What size wheels do you have now? The ss 1le wheels or zl1 wheels will work
@@Hot-1LE I'm assuming they are 20 x 8 and 20 x 9. But I don't know because it came from the factory and straight to the dealership..
Hmm idk why it would be rubbing then. Even with 19s they should not be rubbing. And the copper free brakes come on SSs too something dont make since
@Hot-1LE ikr...!!!!!!
I pick it up next week, and we'll see the outcome ...🤷🏾
Do you have a link to the side sills you got? I must have missed that Video. Almost done wit the first 500 miles on my Red 22 2SS 1LE and want to get all the mods on before I start driving around more.
Acs bro!
I was always wondering why I could not get my hands on a Camaro in 2020-21 🧐
Not sure it’s an upgrade. They just had to make them larger to get the same performance.
Replace the pads with aftermarket and it's a huge upgrade
Congrats on the 2ss 1le love it and happy for u bro. So I'm just wondering I know iv always heard the zl1 1le is a really rough ride and not good for daily driving I'm just curious is the 2ss 1le the same rough riding??
Thank you man! They are different suspensions. The Zle dosnt have the active dampers it's coilovers. The 2ss 1le has the magnetic suspension.
@@Hot-1LE so what made u change your mind about getting a zl1
Put in my order for 2023 ss about 5 weeks ago. Order status still says dealer submitted order but GM has not accepted yet. How long do you think it will take to see a change in the order status and also get my car. 2023 2ss...didnt get 1le. was $7000 upgrade and the 2 ss cost me around 50K already
It depends when and if your dealer can get allocations. In my experience about 2 months to be picked up give or take. Very veritable though. Gm gives out allocations twice a month I believe on Thursdays.
@@Hot-1LE thanks...yeah I called dealer yesterday he said they get new allocations every Thursday. Sales guy showed me 6 Camaros that were in transit so I know they are getting allocations for them. Frustrating!! I had an order in at a smaller dealer back in may but cancelled because this larger dealer wasnt charging 2k over msrp. So Im waiting on rapid blue 2ss. Im in New York so I hope I get before winter. Anyway keep up the good videos and thank you
Is it too complicated to get the side rocker molder panel?
It's acs composite bro
Did you upgrade your brake fluid before track use?
Castrol SRF. Gotta do this tomorrow or Friday so new vid on it but yes has to be DOT4 before track
What side skirts do you have on there
Video on it and the rock guards this week!
What side skirts u have on ?
😂 funny I just asked this too without looking at the comments first
I promise that video is this week
I got quoted over 2K for rotors and pads by GM. I wonder how much these are going to be? Yikes!
I found the pricing difference..not too far off about $30 more for pads and another $40-50 for rotors
Aftermarket it is! Lol
Can older 1LE owners take there cars back to the dealer for this upgrade ?
I mean you could but it's probably going to be pretty expensive since you'll just have to buy it all new.
@@Hot-1LE lol I have a 2021 I’ll ask next time I’m at the dealer maybe they’ll be cool 🤣
Lol! It's only required for new cars sold. 🤣 But I wish you luck haga
There is no upgrade kit. You could just pick up a set of 390mm ZL1 front brakes, there’s always sets on the forums for sale.
Off topic, where did you get the side skirts?
Got a vid on it this week!
They are GM side skirts. Its an option on camaros
@@joshua3630 I seruous doubt the 1le package includes the side skirts. i order my 23 1LE on July and they dont have the side skirts that is why I asked the question
@@mercedrios9486 i never said they were included with 1LE. It is an option for SS Camaros and up. They are like $1500 and its a GM product. Check the build and price and look under exterior options
@@joshua3630 I just wanted to know where he got his from. You get it now?
How much?
500 from the factory or 3k+ after the fact
Cool you talked about the brake system. I personally really don’t care about the little lesser amount of copper in the brakes because I eventually came to think that people and politics overdo with their hype on environmental savings. Not that it’s not important itself and not that I’m against it - it’s just that the topic is overstressed these days and thus some really foolish and logically not comprehensible things start to occur. That’s also why combustion engine cars - even big V8s - are cursed these days but actually arer way more environmental friendly in the end than any e-car. Anyway coming back to the main topic, all that is of interest to me is the fact that these brakes now seem to perform better than before. Just one question left for me here is why you didn’t also change the brake rotors to have them as perforated brake discs? Chevrolet should have installed them from the factory in the beginning in the frist place.
I had to get rid of my 2SS 1LE.. started having electrical problems at 9k miles… I switched to Lexus. Reliability is better to me than having a loud track car that gets out performed by all other track cars, and still doesn’t last 4 years.
Well idk about being out performed for the price thats tough, outperformed in reliability I can absolutely see that. Sorry to hear of the troubles man I hope the lexus does you good.
Same brakes just a bit bigger. Not worth talking about. Same stats on stopping distance to.
All you have to do is replace the pads good man and you have insane brakes. You can't upgrade any of this aftermarket for $500. You will get significantly improved performance with some good aftermarket pads.
@@Hot-1LE 6 piston brembos in front with a double rotor and an incredible stopping distance is standard on my 2021 SS1LE. The copper free option was not an upgrade per se, it was offered because of California's anti pollution standards. In fact the new copper free option did not perform as well as the original brakes so they had no choice but to increase the size. I feel that as I already have one of the best braking systems on any car why go copper free just to get an inch bigger so it works as well as it did before lol. If it was free yeah maybe...
It works as before because of the copper content in the pads needs bigger rotor/pad for cooling. If you swap the pad to a normal aftermarket non GM copper pad you have a immense upgrade. I know my buddies have done it and I will too. So that's why we're here talking about it, you can't "go copper free" you either bought it with the car or you didint.
Yeah, same distance but with more mass comes better heat capacity for the cars that are tracked.