there is a math error in the text portion - I have "8 quarts is a gallon" but it should be "8 quarts is 2 gallons" it all still came out the same in that it was spraying 10 quarts in a minute rather than the 8 expected. In the grand scheme this won't make any problems for the application. Also, the fact that I removed the screen doesn't change the bucket test. The draw was set to "off" during that part so the tank wasn't even engaged. Lastly, some think I was hard on this thing and I wasn't. Just like anything, I need to learn the tool and how to best use it. I said that towards the end. Happy 4th!
When you poked out the net on the sprayer that net probably slowed it down to 2 gallons every min now that you poke the out its going quicker cause the net is not slowing down the water... Thats what i think your problem is
Sorry if I'm repeating a comment. Why can't you just time out 2 gallons and use that as your time(maybe 50 sec.) I think it would be more consistent and repeatable. But I'm just a simple guy and I like simple math that works every time without adjusting water pressure. Just throw her down 😎
Im a new home owner in Florida too and just learning the ropes... Lol thank you for what you do. You are very passionate about what you do and it definitly shows.
Just applied my first app of AIR8 + Humic12. Watched this video before hand and followed your recommendations. I had terribly hard cracked soil compaction, and within 12 hours I can already see an improvement! When my soil “dried out” after applying, the cracks were gone. Amazing! Thank you for your recommendation of the Greene County products, and your constantly helpful content. I will be sure to let John Perry know too. His products really work. Couldn’t have done it without you. Plus I got a LCN sticker with my purchase. Bonus! Thanks again.
I just bought my Dian N Spray this weekend. The first thing I did was to perform a 1-minute bucket fill. I did it multiple times, came out to exactly 2 gallons every time I did it. Yesterday, I marked off a 1,000 sq foot area (31.6 ft square) in my driveway and practiced covering it in 1 minute. Did I mention my wife thinks I'm crazy for "watering the asphalt"???? :-D
Allyn, that is one of my favorite cigars. Simply delicious notes of chocolate across the palate and a very complex flavor profile. Great choice, my friend.
Good and helpful video. 👍🏼 I used my Ortho sprayer for Humic12 and RGS (combined) and it did good for me. I also got 2gals of water in a minute. During my test I had plain water in the container that it was sucking. I set mine to 1-2 and I was able to walk slower and got more water down. So far not too bad. It took me about 50 minutes with mixing, spraying and clean up for 5,900 sq ft.
Got my sprayer today, my Build a Box arrives tomorrow, here in California. So excited to try these products after watching all these videos these past few months. Thanks for helping us understand this sprayer. 👍🏻
So before I watched this video, I followed John's video and measured my flow rate and also got ~2.5/min Also experienced the same issues with spurts of no brown coming out of the sprayer. I had a mixture of all the bio-stim pack
Haha that shirt is awesome! "Lawn Rebel" Not sure why some people give him a hard time on that channel, the guy knows what he's doing, the lawn speaks for itself!. I was looking at trying those exact dial and sprays myself, what a coincidence you'd make a video on them. Thanks for all the tips yet again!.
I bought the chapin HES. Works pretty good. I just put in the amount of product I need for the given square footage and pace myself to get the coverage I need. Then I put down weed and feed like a dummy and burned the shit outta my Bermuda! I had it nice, thick, and dark green. I want to cry.
Just put down my rgs and humic 12 for the first time Friday. My lawn is looking better already. I used one of these hose end sprayers to do it. It was super easy
2019. We have cars that drive themselves. Internet and computers. Rovers on Mars but nobody can build a decent forking dial sprayer for the lawn. The dial sprayer technology seems to be from the 1940s.
I wouldn't go crazy with Milo thinking it's god's gift to mankind. Some of us might be better off with Starter fertilizer like Scotts at a 10-10-10. If you're lawn doens't have good root development then that might be the better option. Use a bulb planter to dig a 4 inch section up and check your roots. Water and fertilize accordingly. Milo is quite weak but good IMO for a well established lawn. Go with Starter fertilizer over the Scotts or Vigiro which load up on nitrogen. Starter fertilizer and scotts turf builder are almost the same price for 5000 sq ft. So use common sense and the correct product for your lawn. Don't just use Milorgonite all the time because you saw it on this channel.
Hello, just wanting to thank you. I have been following your advice of cutting my st Augustine higher and more frequent and watering more frequently, what a difference. Keep up the good work.
FYI. The Ortho manual states: "...dispenses approximately {emphasis on approximately} 2 gallons of water per minute}..." Check "Things to Know" in the manual (tab 5). That is most likely the culprit. They do not state that it absolutely dispenses 2 gallons per minute; it's an approximate/estimate Mine is .52 per 2 gallons. I like my Ortho as it puts down the product nicely and with no or very little wind drift concern - the shower setting. I especially like how it really saturates the grass with the product. The only downside is you have to work the hose around the yard, but I've used dial sprayers for about 20 years now, so I have that down to a science now. Also, I like that I can move at a faster pace with the Ortho hose end sprayer as it puts out 2 gallons just under a minute vs the backpack sprayer. I like and use the shower output dial. Mine was around .52 seconds for 2 gallons.
I have garage shoes that have the nice brown hue of humic acid. I used another sprayer and it clogged using the Next products. Then I got this Ortho Dial N Spray, and it's working like a charm so far.
I picked up that Ortho sprayer about 6 months ago and absolutely loved it for everything around the house.. mine is very accurate.. you do seem to have much more pressure than I do.
I know this is an old video however, I'm watching it to get an idea on how the hose-end sprayer works. Just a thought on why maybe you were getting more than 2 gal a minute. Maybe because you punched through the screen before testing it. Could have changed the flow dynamics. Just a thought. Thanks for the video.
Awesome clip once again Allyn. Thanks for the Happy Canada 🇨🇦 Day wishes and the same for you and your family as well as all your subscribers...Have an Awesome 4th July Independence Day...👊.
I'd probably dilute your 6oz to 12oz in the Ortho container. Then apply at 6oz per gallon. You'll end up with the same 6oz per 1000sqft, but the mixture will be thinner and will flow better. You will have to stop more often though to refill the container.
If you dilute the solution your ratio is going to change . If you want 6 Oz per gallon and you add 6 Oz of water you are no longer spraying at 6oz of solution per gallon of water right?
@@franke1833 I may have misspoke... The dilution is irrelevant. It's the gross amount of product that's important. So if you have 6oz diluted in 10 gallons, but you spray all 10 gallons in the same 1000sqft, that's the same as diluting 6oz in a gallon and spraying that gallon on the same area. I prefer a more diluted solution as it gives better coverage and control. Higher concentrations require more precision in the application.
I am glad you posted this I just bought one of these to put the NXT products down on my baseball fields I take care of wasn't sure what setting to use now I do thanks.
I checked my Ortho sprayer and it was running nearly 3 gals per minute. I put a standard hose valve on the sprayer and was able to set it to a perfect 2 GPM. I tested the chemical tank uptake and it flowed perfectly at the 1oz setting. The sprayer may flow differently based on your home's water pressure. The valve I installed was plastic so I took a soldering iron and lightly melted the knob and the base together so it couldn't accidentally turn. I figured I could undo that if I ever needed to. Super Glue seemed a little permanent.
Fantastic video sir! Love seeing you try new techniques. Impeccable choice of cigar, Oliva Melanio figurado is definitely my favorite out there! Have a great week man.
Just like St. Augustine grass, my hair always looks better 3 or 4 days after getting it cut. The difference between a good and a bad haircut is about 1 week. Thanks for the pointers on lawn care. You've turned me into a nut!
Just tried using this Ortho sprayer with a 50, 50 ratio of RGS and micro green. It kept clogging even with the screen poked out it was set at the 2oz setting. I ended up giving up about halfway through and switching to the hand can for the rest of the application. Time to buy a back pack sprayer.
Dude people keep telling me I need to follow you. So I just did. If you're ever in Los Angeles you must come by and do a co-lab with me. I need tons of grass help.
I first used it last week and it was chocking on the mix. Had to shake it a lot to get through the metal filter. Took that off today and it came pouring out. I think the flow rate increases when that filter is removed. I would give the sprayer a B. Dial is a little rikishi and if you turn the sprayer upside down the mix will leak through.
You are something else, Hayne. Have you ever been to Augusta National Golf course in Augusta, GA? You should find out if you can go there sometime just to look at it. I KNOW you would really appreciate it. It's what I have in mind every time I think about my lawn. And I've never been there.
If you knew the area you were spraying, and you know you want to put down 3oz in the given area, you just spray that area. I think in John 's video, he said to put the dial on 1 and just spray your product on the given area. 3 or 6 oz. Pete of GCI turf fame, also has a video on using a hose end sprayer.
Just tried the Ortho today. Not the best experience. I think it's just because I mixed too much MicroGreen with RGS and Humic12. The spray was consistent for a few seconds then it was just water. Kept increasing flowrate, by the time I had it flowing I only had a quarter bottle left lol. I'll def have to do the MicroGreen separate or follow NXTGen recommendation of not mixing everything together.
By busting out the screen with Lieutenant Dan’s Flamingo leg you are changing the overall pressure of the device. This allows more water to flow through. I have used one of these religiously and love it. I will do some first hand research and get back to you.
Gpm depends on your house pressure and flow. Mine get 2.6 Gpm but so what. That's the constant I use and base my calculations off. No reason to try and get 2gpm. I'm just glad that the oz application settings were dead on. I measured what it took out of the tank and on the 1oz setting I got exactly 1oz per gallon.
I found the same, 6oz setting seemed to be more consistent (at least judging by the color of the water coming out) vs 3oz setting, so I just hauled around my tiny yard at a double step.
Sledgerton Same end sprayer I've used for years, it doesn't do to well with the micro green, I ended up diluting micro green with water in the concentrate bottle for it to feed properly.
You’re probably the only customer who has actually checked the accuracy of the Ortho sprayer. I have used one for many years, and have never thought about debunking it. Hahaha🤣
Great call on the cigar, by far one of my favorites. Good stuff. Those sprayers just seem to complicated, I’ll stick to pump sprayers... by the way, your flow issue can be easily be fixed with Flomax.. 🤣
It’s consistent. Can’t ask for more than that. Water pressure and GPM all has an impact on the performance of any nozzle device. Even a backpack sprayer with various tips. Flow is increased or decreased due to pressure.
Make things easy too. Buy some quick disconnect fittings for the hose and sprayer. I GOT a set of 5 with the hose end fitting for 11.00 bucks. Works great for disconnecting hose end sprayer from hose....
Another measurement option that I've always liked for smaller areas, is if I am spraying 2 gallons per minute and my math is ounces per gallon, then what I do is put in the number of ounces of product, then add the same amount of water to the tank. I feel like I end up with less waste in the tank since now whatever doesn't get sprayed is cut in half. Then you can change your dial to just be the number of ounces per gallon.
ThinkDad - yeah man you got Alan straightened out on that, for sure! The nozzle on the sprayer is the key to get your coverage required. The dial setting of 6 would fix 2 vs 3 gals. Good to go ... No sweat, JUST DO IT! I got 15Ksft and I just fill up the tank 8oz to gal not 6oz. Then dial into 6. I'm killin weeds and grasses. I say use a tad more concentrate and be sure to kill them broadleaf bastards! Additionally, feeding the yard the temperature needs to be well below 90.
The way I use one of those is actually dilute the stuff in the sprayer tank with water, then dial it way up and spray. That way Im not worried about emptying 100% and you can also hold it at angles and it will still suck well.
Curious. Many products list application rates in Per Gallon and Per 1,000 SF. So, if the product says 1/2 ounce per gallon per 1,000 SF you would set the dial at 1/2 per gallon. Got it. But if the Flow Rate is 2 Gallons per Minute, then you have 30 seconds to spray 1,000 SF. Correct ?
You can also use your steel blade edger to achieve a Sharp Beveled-edge , here’s how. When using your stick steel bladed edger instead of edging at 90° Lean into your “tips” at about 70° And edge as normal but with a heavy lean. Start light and take it to your dissired degree. It will be dirty the first time and heavier clean up then normal edging regularly
I do sewer and water some houses have three quarter inch water line some have it 1 inch water line some have inch and a half some have two in the bigger the line the more pressure you have its going to very in what runs through the ortho dial n spray
Agreed. Ya can't modify the unit and still expect it to flow the same as advertised. Try this test again with an unmodified one. **I am not saying the product is accurate however I am saying that perhaps knocking the screen out altered it....**
Super happy the flamingos made another appearance in your video, but I'm sure they're not gonna be hot pink for long if you keep sprayin' and prayin' them with liquid humic from GCF. I've got domination stains on my Chapin 24V sprayer. BTW, sweet video rig!
The issue I see is that with a foliar application, are the droplets too large for even coverage? It appears that way to me. For a soil app this could work great.
14 minutes in and no calibration yet! This is like going to pesticide re-certification and the instructor tells us how much water is in a gallon! Ortho let him down with a Wal-Mart priced sprayer!! LOL Sod webworms!!
I’m sorry this comment doesn’t contribute much to the technical aspects of the video, but ... milorganite blueberry pie? I definitely get peach cobbler. Listen to the back of the palate. Well, at least we can agree on dark green turf! Love the channel (and the Next products)!!!
wish there was a lawn care nut specifically for Bermuda grass in Arizona. Gonna be 114 degrees next weekend. Haven't had rain in forever. Lawn is burning and i water twice a day. If i water any less... its really brown.
hey there lawn care nut i really do enjoy your video. I started to binge watching your videos at the beginning of the year end My lawn has never looked so good so thank you. i wanted comment about the miloganite shortage. could it be because the contest they ran. again thank you for all the videos keep it up i always look forwards to your next video.
No. His first 2 tests were with the suction section set to "off". Screen would have made no difference since it was totally bypassed anyway. He also tested with the suction section turned on, in case bypassing it affected flow per minute at all. It had no effect, so, the screen had no effect on the water flow per minute at all. However, at 24:29 he says he finally read the label and it said it provided a flow of "approximately 2 gallons a minute", not exactly 2 gallons per minute... D'oh...! So, lots to do about nothting, apparently.
Thanks for the video... See you are a Cigar aficionado as well. Me too! If you haven't tried a Bone Shaker, do so.... If you have try the Full Body Cast for a full bodied smoke! Tonight, I wanted to throw down the bio-stimulants and went RGS/Humic 12 in my Sprayers plus backpack. Also went Green Effect and Air8 in my hose end sprayer..... Boy did I lay it down... My walking speed was way off..... But let me tell you... I don't know if it was a placebo effect or not, but after spraying the GreenEfect with a half hour lawn watering on my Bermuda - the lawn greened up like mad! I am going to have to check again in the morning, but the heat stress seems to have been erased in an hours worth of work!!
First of all, BIG FAN! Second, Does anyone remember when he poked a flamingo hole through the screen? xD If the sprayer is defective (letting through 2 extra quarts per minute), then I blame your pink flamingo! Your wife now has another reason to hate them lol
LCN, I just treated my lawn for brown patch two weekends ago and have been bagging since then. Should I hold off on the Milo and or the NeXT products. Want sure if it was safe to apply nitrogen yet.
Yours sprayed a couple more quarts per minute, maybe because your water pressure is higher. The water pressure varies with every community. (hose diameter could affect it too- most are 5/8" but some are 1/2" or 1").
Hey Alyn, talking about hose management, what hose reel/rose combo do you recommend for 100 ft hoses like yours? I recently purchased a hose reel from HD for about $30 and I'm not a fan and it seems like all the hoses I try kink.
Glen Atchison same here except I found four bags remaining at my local Lowe’s. I plan to throw ringer down this week and use Milo for my September overseeding and aeration ;)
Threw down 2 bags of Ringer just yesterday, and then the rain came. Perfect timing. About to dominate this 4th. If you want that dark blue color that Milo gives think about putting down some Ironite. Saw it on sale for 50% off at Lowes (so around $9) for a 15 lb bag that covers 5,000 square feet.
I'm in GA and was at a near by Lowes on my lunch break. I like Ringer and have used it in the past. It is almost just as cost effective as Milo. $8 is a great price.
Hi. I know this is an old video, but does it not dilute the product too much if you change the mixer setting on the sprayer since no matter what, 2 plus gallons of water is coming out every min. Example, this product calls for 6 oz for 1 gallon of water, but I set the dial to 3 oz (6 oz per 2 gallon), aren't I diluting by half? I feel like if you turn down the dial, you are diluting the product to much. Maybe this product doesn't care if diluted?
Question for ALL LCN's: Recently moved into a new house and the sod that was laid down was done very poorly (uneven growth, gaps in-between the connecting sod pieces, etc.). I plan on putting compost over most of the lawn to level the uneven growth and gaps in-between the sod. Is this the best method to fix these issues? If so, what time of year is best to put down the material? Thanks!
I just time how long it takes to spray my entire lawn keep that time consistant and adjust from there. I also dilute the product in the ortho tank so if I add 6-8 of Humic12 I’ll dilute it up to 32 ounces.
Hi what is the hose pipe connection size that threads into this please? I'm in the UK and just ordered one from the US that's on its way. Our standard hose pipes here are all different sizes. I have a 3/4 thread hose and a 1/2 inch quick connector hose. I've heard two conflicting answers that this Dial n Spray is 5/8 but I've also heard its 3/4. Can you please confirm which one it is so I can get my adapter ordered online now as well because I think I'll need one? Many thanks
How does this account for the dilution ratio? Greene Punch says 20-1. If I need 20oz of product per my specific area of yard what should I set the dial to in order to achieve the 20-1 dilution?
there is a math error in the text portion - I have "8 quarts is a gallon" but it should be "8 quarts is 2 gallons" it all still came out the same in that it was spraying 10 quarts in a minute rather than the 8 expected. In the grand scheme this won't make any problems for the application. Also, the fact that I removed the screen doesn't change the bucket test. The draw was set to "off" during that part so the tank wasn't even engaged. Lastly, some think I was hard on this thing and I wasn't. Just like anything, I need to learn the tool and how to best use it. I said that towards the end. Happy 4th!
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When you poked out the net on the sprayer that net probably slowed it down to 2 gallons every min now that you poke the out its going quicker cause the net is not slowing down the water...
Thats what i think your problem is
At least on the first test he had it set to OFF so the net didn't come into play.
Sorry if I'm repeating a comment. Why can't you just time out 2 gallons and use that as your time(maybe 50 sec.) I think it would be more consistent and repeatable. But I'm just a simple guy and I like simple math that works every time without adjusting water pressure. Just throw her down 😎
Maybe you should try with the downstream turned on , the draw will reduce the flow of water. My 2 cents
Im a new home owner in Florida too and just learning the ropes... Lol thank you for what you do. You are very passionate about what you do and it definitly shows.
Just applied my first app of AIR8 + Humic12. Watched this video before hand and followed your recommendations. I had terribly hard cracked soil compaction, and within 12 hours I can already see an improvement! When my soil “dried out” after applying, the cracks were gone. Amazing! Thank you for your recommendation of the Greene County products, and your constantly helpful content. I will be sure to let John Perry know too. His products really work. Couldn’t have done it without you. Plus I got a LCN sticker with my purchase. Bonus! Thanks again.
I just bought my Dian N Spray this weekend. The first thing I did was to perform a 1-minute bucket fill. I did it multiple times, came out to exactly 2 gallons every time I did it. Yesterday, I marked off a 1,000 sq foot area (31.6 ft square) in my driveway and practiced covering it in 1 minute.
Did I mention my wife thinks I'm crazy for "watering the asphalt"???? :-D
Allyn, that is one of my favorite cigars. Simply delicious notes of chocolate across the palate and a very complex flavor profile. Great choice, my friend.
Allan, I think a one year time lapse video of your yard for the next season would be very cool to watch!
Good and helpful video. 👍🏼 I used my Ortho sprayer for Humic12 and RGS (combined) and it did good for me. I also got 2gals of water in a minute. During my test I had plain water in the container that it was sucking. I set mine to 1-2 and I was able to walk slower and got more water down. So far not too bad. It took me about 50 minutes with mixing, spraying and clean up for 5,900 sq ft.
Got my sprayer today, my Build a Box arrives tomorrow, here in California. So excited to try these products after watching all these videos these past few months. Thanks for helping us understand this sprayer. 👍🏻
I just threw down my first ever application of Milo! Ready to dominate!
Happy Independence Day!!
Thanks to this lawn care community I've found, and my President, I'm going to enjoy this 4th of July more than ever before.
I’m on day 15 of my new princess 77 Bermuda lawn and it looks incredible. The frankenlawn videos helped me out tremendously! ( I’m 14 years old )
So before I watched this video, I followed John's video and measured my flow rate and also got ~2.5/min
Also experienced the same issues with spurts of no brown coming out of the sprayer. I had a mixture of all the bio-stim pack
Haha that shirt is awesome! "Lawn Rebel" Not sure why some people give him a hard time on that channel, the guy knows what he's doing, the lawn speaks for itself!. I was looking at trying those exact dial and sprays myself, what a coincidence you'd make a video on them. Thanks for all the tips yet again!.
I bought the chapin HES. Works pretty good. I just put in the amount of product I need for the given square footage and pace myself to get the coverage I need. Then I put down weed and feed like a dummy and burned the shit outta my Bermuda! I had it nice, thick, and dark green. I want to cry.
This video came at a good time! I just got my Ortho dial n spray in the mail a few days ago.
same here
Just put down my rgs and humic 12 for the first time Friday. My lawn is looking better already. I used one of these hose end sprayers to do it. It was super easy
2019. We have cars that drive themselves. Internet and computers. Rovers on Mars but nobody can build a decent forking dial sprayer for the lawn. The dial sprayer technology seems to be from the 1940s.
I use it all the time. Learned from my Dad years ago. It also helped that he worked at Ortho. ]80) Mine sprays 1 gal. per minute. Bang on.
Just put my Milo down yesterday here in Dallas 👍... Learning a lot from you, LCN.... Thanks!
mickyunit DFW!!!🤘🤘🤘
I wouldn't go crazy with Milo thinking it's god's gift to mankind. Some of us might be better off with Starter fertilizer like Scotts at a 10-10-10. If you're lawn doens't have good root development then that might be the better option. Use a bulb planter to dig a 4 inch section up and check your roots. Water and fertilize accordingly. Milo is quite weak but good IMO for a well established lawn. Go with Starter fertilizer over the Scotts or Vigiro which load up on nitrogen. Starter fertilizer and scotts turf builder are almost the same price for 5000 sq ft. So use common sense and the correct product for your lawn. Don't just use Milorgonite all the time because you saw it on this channel.
I appreciate the fact that you leave your flaws in the videos. I relate way more to that guy ( lawn care nut), rather than the perfect lawn guy!
Hello, just wanting to thank you. I have been following your advice of cutting my st Augustine higher and more frequent and watering more frequently, what a difference. Keep up the good work.
Dynamic on-the fly dilution and agitation!!! Got to put that one in the BOOK.
thanks!
FYI. The Ortho manual states: "...dispenses approximately {emphasis on approximately} 2 gallons of water per minute}..." Check "Things to Know" in the manual (tab 5). That is most likely the culprit. They do not state that it absolutely dispenses 2 gallons per minute; it's an approximate/estimate Mine is .52 per 2 gallons.
I like my Ortho as it puts down the product nicely and with no or very little wind drift concern - the shower setting. I especially like how it really saturates the grass with the product. The only downside is you have to work the hose around the yard, but I've used dial sprayers for about 20 years now, so I have that down to a science now. Also, I like that I can move at a faster pace with the Ortho hose end sprayer as it puts out 2 gallons just under a minute vs the backpack sprayer. I like and use the shower output dial. Mine was around .52 seconds for 2 gallons.
I have garage shoes that have the nice brown hue of humic acid. I used another sprayer and it clogged using the Next products. Then I got this Ortho Dial N Spray, and it's working like a charm so far.
I picked up that Ortho sprayer about 6 months ago and absolutely loved it for everything around the house.. mine is very accurate.. you do seem to have much more pressure than I do.
Nice to see the pink flamingo came in handy.
The man the myth the legend... LcN is the Boss.
I know this is an old video however, I'm watching it to get an idea on how the hose-end sprayer works. Just a thought on why maybe you were getting more than 2 gal a minute. Maybe because you punched through the screen before testing it. Could have changed the flow dynamics. Just a thought. Thanks for the video.
Awesome clip once again Allyn. Thanks for the Happy Canada 🇨🇦 Day wishes and the same for you and your family as well as all your subscribers...Have an Awesome 4th July Independence Day...👊.
I'd probably dilute your 6oz to 12oz in the Ortho container. Then apply at 6oz per gallon.
You'll end up with the same 6oz per 1000sqft, but the mixture will be thinner and will flow better. You will have to stop more often though to refill the container.
If you dilute the solution your ratio is going to change . If you want 6 Oz per gallon and you add 6 Oz of water you are no longer spraying at 6oz of solution per gallon of water right?
@@franke1833 I may have misspoke... The dilution is irrelevant. It's the gross amount of product that's important. So if you have 6oz diluted in 10 gallons, but you spray all 10 gallons in the same 1000sqft, that's the same as diluting 6oz in a gallon and spraying that gallon on the same area. I prefer a more diluted solution as it gives better coverage and control. Higher concentrations require more precision in the application.
I am glad you posted this I just bought one of these to put the NXT products down on my baseball fields I take care of wasn't sure what setting to use now I do thanks.
I checked my Ortho sprayer and it was running nearly 3 gals per minute. I put a standard hose valve on the sprayer and was able to set it to a perfect 2 GPM. I tested the chemical tank uptake and it flowed perfectly at the 1oz setting. The sprayer may flow differently based on your home's water pressure.
The valve I installed was plastic so I took a soldering iron and lightly melted the knob and the base together so it couldn't accidentally turn. I figured I could undo that if I ever needed to. Super Glue seemed a little permanent.
I just used this end sprayer to apply the bio- stimulant I ordered from you. I was happy with the flow.
Damn son, you blinded me with science in this video.
you need it!
Fantastic video sir! Love seeing you try new techniques. Impeccable choice of cigar, Oliva Melanio figurado is definitely my favorite out there! Have a great week man.
You may have mentioned this already, but would pulling out the screen impact the flow?
Cool Alan the camera looked great keep up the good videos man 😎👍😎
No skip. More of these. God they made these sprays so difficult with the app rates of different companies
Great video and good information. Watched to the end. 👍🏻 Were learning more and more every year.
Just like St. Augustine grass, my hair always looks better 3 or 4 days after getting it cut. The difference between a good and a bad haircut is about 1 week. Thanks for the pointers on lawn care. You've turned me into a nut!
Just tried using this Ortho sprayer with a 50, 50 ratio of RGS and micro green. It kept clogging even with the screen poked out it was set at the 2oz setting. I ended up giving up about halfway through and switching to the hand can for the rest of the application. Time to buy a back pack sprayer.
Dude people keep telling me I need to follow you. So I just did. If you're ever in Los Angeles you must come by and do a co-lab with me. I need tons of grass help.
I first used it last week and it was chocking on the mix. Had to shake it a lot to get through the metal filter. Took that off today and it came pouring out.
I think the flow rate increases when that filter is removed.
I would give the sprayer a B. Dial is a little rikishi and if you turn the sprayer upside down the mix will leak through.
You are something else, Hayne. Have you ever been to Augusta National Golf course in Augusta, GA? You should find out if you can go there sometime just to look at it. I KNOW you would really appreciate it. It's what I have in mind every time I think about my lawn. And I've never been there.
If you knew the area you were spraying, and you know you want to put down 3oz in the given area, you just spray that area. I think in John 's video, he said to put the dial on 1 and just spray your product on the given area. 3 or 6 oz. Pete of GCI turf fame, also has a video on using a hose end sprayer.
Great video Allyn, your lawn looks amazing. Happy 4th of July, Brother!!!
Just tried the Ortho today. Not the best experience. I think it's just because I mixed too much MicroGreen with RGS and Humic12. The spray was consistent for a few seconds then it was just water. Kept increasing flowrate, by the time I had it flowing I only had a quarter bottle left lol. I'll def have to do the MicroGreen separate or follow NXTGen recommendation of not mixing everything together.
By busting out the screen with Lieutenant Dan’s Flamingo leg you are changing the overall pressure of the device. This allows more water to flow through. I have used one of these religiously and love it. I will do some first hand research and get back to you.
Your sprayed amount will depend on your home water pressure. It might vary in different cities. Also will vary on homes with well pumps.
Does how much fert you put in the container matter as long as your walk rate and sprayer setting is consistent?
Gpm depends on your house pressure and flow. Mine get 2.6 Gpm but so what. That's the constant I use and base my calculations off. No reason to try and get 2gpm. I'm just glad that the oz application settings were dead on. I measured what it took out of the tank and on the 1oz setting I got exactly 1oz per gallon.
Dial n Pray, you got that right.
hahaha, smells like success when you are in the garage, thanks lawn looks great! LOL
I’ve had that sprayer for a little over a year. works great for me. never checked calibration though so i’ll have to do that and see what the GPM is.
wow lots of science in this one.
Did my first bio stimulant pack application, been using ortho hose end sprayer for few years for my fish emulsion
Can use it to spray the Castor oil to get rid of vole ? thank you for helping with this question
I found the same, 6oz setting seemed to be more consistent (at least judging by the color of the water coming out) vs 3oz setting, so I just hauled around my tiny yard at a double step.
Been using the Chapin G362 hose end sprayer for my Talstar P applications with good consistency.
Sledgerton Same end sprayer I've used for years, it doesn't do to well with the micro green, I ended up diluting micro green with water in the concentrate bottle for it to feed properly.
You’re probably the only customer who has actually checked the accuracy of the Ortho sprayer. I have used one for many years, and have never thought about debunking it. Hahaha🤣
Great call on the cigar, by far one of my favorites. Good stuff. Those sprayers just seem to complicated, I’ll stick to pump sprayers... by the way, your flow issue can be easily be fixed with Flomax.. 🤣
It’s consistent. Can’t ask for more than that. Water pressure and GPM all has an impact on the performance of any nozzle device. Even a backpack sprayer with various tips. Flow is increased or decreased due to pressure.
Have a wonderful Independence day. Your lawn looks good. Thanks!
Thanks!
At least it’s consistent. Thanks from Orlando
Happy Canada Day to you to Al
Make things easy too. Buy some quick disconnect fittings for the hose and sprayer. I GOT a set of 5 with the hose end fitting for 11.00 bucks. Works great for disconnecting hose end sprayer from hose....
You’re definitely a cool kid
Bro your paver sidewalks are looking great; how about a maintenance video.... my paver patio needs your tips!!!
Another measurement option that I've always liked for smaller areas, is if I am spraying 2 gallons per minute and my math is ounces per gallon, then what I do is put in the number of ounces of product, then add the same amount of water to the tank. I feel like I end up with less waste in the tank since now whatever doesn't get sprayed is cut in half. Then you can change your dial to just be the number of ounces per gallon.
ThinkDad - yeah man you got Alan straightened out on that, for sure! The nozzle on the sprayer is the key to get your coverage required. The dial setting of 6 would fix 2 vs 3 gals. Good to go ... No sweat, JUST DO IT! I got 15Ksft and I just fill up the tank 8oz to gal not 6oz. Then dial into 6. I'm killin weeds and grasses. I say use a tad more concentrate and be sure to kill them broadleaf bastards! Additionally, feeding the yard the temperature needs to be well below 90.
The way I use one of those is actually dilute the stuff in the sprayer tank with water, then dial it way up and spray. That way Im not worried about emptying 100% and you can also hold it at angles and it will still suck well.
Curious. Many products list application rates in Per Gallon and Per 1,000 SF. So, if the product says 1/2 ounce per gallon per 1,000 SF you would set the dial at 1/2 per gallon. Got it. But if the Flow Rate is 2 Gallons per Minute, then you have 30 seconds to spray 1,000 SF. Correct ?
You can also use your steel blade edger to achieve a Sharp Beveled-edge , here’s how. When using your stick steel bladed edger instead of edging at 90° Lean into your “tips” at about 70° And edge as normal but with a heavy lean. Start light and take it to your dissired degree. It will be dirty the first time and heavier clean up then normal edging regularly
I do sewer and water some houses have three quarter inch water line some have it 1 inch water line some have inch and a half some have two in the bigger the line the more pressure you have its going to very in what runs through the ortho dial n spray
Put the screen back in. That may help with the flow reduction.
Agreed. Ya can't modify the unit and still expect it to flow the same as advertised. Try this test again with an unmodified one.
**I am not saying the product is accurate however I am saying that perhaps knocking the screen out altered it....**
The screen is for the suction of product. He had it set to off. The screen would have nothing do with flow at that point.
I agree, screen in does NOT work well with GCF products. Definitely screen out is the way to go. Just applied. Took the screen out.
I just tested mine and didn't make any modifications. The output was 2.5 gallons per minute (almost exactly).
Super happy the flamingos made another appearance in your video, but I'm sure they're not gonna be hot pink for long if you keep sprayin' and prayin' them with liquid humic from GCF. I've got domination stains on my Chapin 24V sprayer. BTW, sweet video rig!
The issue I see is that with a foliar application, are the droplets too large for even coverage? It appears that way to me. For a soil app this could work great.
Common core gallon? I'm such a nut that I watched a guy fill a bucket with water multiple times.
Steve Peet i was thinking how much little time i have for garden care and then watch 3 hrs of a guy mowing his lawn.....
14 minutes in and no calibration yet! This is like going to pesticide re-certification and the instructor tells us how much water is in a gallon! Ortho let him down with a Wal-Mart priced sprayer!! LOL Sod webworms!!
I’m sorry this comment doesn’t contribute much to the technical aspects of the video, but ... milorganite blueberry pie? I definitely get peach cobbler. Listen to the back of the palate. Well, at least we can agree on dark green turf! Love the channel (and the Next products)!!!
wish there was a lawn care nut specifically for Bermuda grass in Arizona. Gonna be 114 degrees next weekend. Haven't had rain in forever. Lawn is burning and i water twice a day. If i water any less... its really brown.
21:20 you still have those flamingos in your lawn your wife is going to kill you lol 🤣🤣🤣 always great video allyn as always
Ryan my thought too hahaha
They were in the garage at the start of the video. He must have put them out specifically to record.
I think he only puts them out when she's not there. Think a Fellni-esque version of a mistress.
hey there lawn care nut i really do enjoy your video. I started to binge watching your videos at the beginning of the year end My lawn has never looked so good so thank you. i wanted comment about the miloganite shortage. could it be because the contest they ran. again thank you for all the videos keep it up i always look forwards to your next video.
Popcorn popped, beer open, kids asleep...press play. Let's go
Was the flow affected by the screen removal?
No. His first 2 tests were with the suction section set to "off". Screen would have made no difference since it was totally bypassed anyway. He also tested with the suction section turned on, in case bypassing it affected flow per minute at all. It had no effect, so, the screen had no effect on the water flow per minute at all.
However, at 24:29 he says he finally read the label and it said it provided a flow of "approximately 2 gallons a minute", not exactly 2 gallons per minute... D'oh...! So, lots to do about nothting, apparently.
Thanks for the video... See you are a Cigar aficionado as well. Me too! If you haven't tried a Bone Shaker, do so.... If you have try the Full Body Cast for a full bodied smoke!
Tonight, I wanted to throw down the bio-stimulants and went RGS/Humic 12 in my Sprayers plus backpack. Also went Green Effect and Air8 in my hose end sprayer..... Boy did I lay it down... My walking speed was way off.....
But let me tell you... I don't know if it was a placebo effect or not, but after spraying the GreenEfect with a half hour lawn watering on my Bermuda - the lawn greened up like mad! I am going to have to check again in the morning, but the heat stress seems to have been erased in an hours worth of work!!
First of all, BIG FAN! Second, Does anyone remember when he poked a flamingo hole through the screen? xD If the sprayer is defective (letting through 2 extra quarts per minute), then I blame your pink flamingo! Your wife now has another reason to hate them lol
New camera takes years off! Good on ya!
Can I use it to spray the worm tea ? if so, how to calculate, thank you for help.
LCN, I just treated my lawn for brown patch two weekends ago and have been bagging since then. Should I hold off on the Milo and or the NeXT products. Want sure if it was safe to apply nitrogen yet.
If you put the screen from the ortho sprayer on your cigar, how many draws per minute will you be able to take?
Yours sprayed a couple more quarts per minute, maybe because your water pressure is higher. The water pressure varies with every community. (hose diameter could affect it too- most are 5/8" but some are 1/2" or 1").
Hey Alyn, talking about hose management, what hose reel/rose combo do you recommend for 100 ft hoses like yours? I recently purchased a hose reel from HD for about $30 and I'm not a fan and it seems like all the hoses I try kink.
Since milo was out of stock I ordered some ringer off amazon. Gonna throw it down tomorrow!
Glen Atchison same here except I found four bags remaining at my local Lowe’s. I plan to throw ringer down this week and use Milo for my September overseeding and aeration ;)
Nice. Make sure to water it in to activate.
Threw down 2 bags of Ringer just yesterday, and then the rain came. Perfect timing. About to dominate this 4th. If you want that dark blue color that Milo gives think about putting down some Ironite. Saw it on sale for 50% off at Lowes (so around $9) for a 15 lb bag that covers 5,000 square feet.
Where you guys at? I'm about an hour SW of Chicago and my local Home Depot and Menards both have pallets of Milo up for grabs at $8/bag.
I'm in GA and was at a near by Lowes on my lunch break. I like Ringer and have used it in the past. It is almost just as cost effective as Milo. $8 is a great price.
Great information, those flamingos should be in the front for domination like Connor Ward. You need 4 flamingos To dominate Connor!!
Hi. I know this is an old video, but does it not dilute the product too much if you change the mixer setting on the sprayer since no matter what, 2 plus gallons of water is coming out every min. Example, this product calls for 6 oz for 1 gallon of water, but I set the dial to 3 oz (6 oz per 2 gallon), aren't I diluting by half? I feel like if you turn down the dial, you are diluting the product to much. Maybe this product doesn't care if diluted?
Question for ALL LCN's: Recently moved into a new house and the sod that was laid down was done very poorly (uneven growth, gaps in-between the connecting sod pieces, etc.). I plan on putting compost over most of the lawn to level the uneven growth and gaps in-between the sod. Is this the best method to fix these issues? If so, what time of year is best to put down the material? Thanks!
Lol, Since I haven't talked to you, I take it I will be buying my own Milo for the next year....
I just time how long it takes to spray my entire lawn keep that time consistant and adjust from there. I also dilute the product in the ortho tank so if I add 6-8 of Humic12 I’ll dilute it up to 32 ounces.
Hi what is the hose pipe connection size that threads into this please? I'm in the UK and just ordered one from the US that's on its way. Our standard hose pipes here are all different sizes. I have a 3/4 thread hose and a 1/2 inch quick connector hose. I've heard two conflicting answers that this Dial n Spray is 5/8 but I've also heard its 3/4. Can you please confirm which one it is so I can get my adapter ordered online now as well because I think I'll need one? Many thanks
Great tip tips on the lawn care tip.
How does this account for the dilution ratio? Greene Punch says 20-1. If I need 20oz of product per my specific area of yard what should I set the dial to in order to achieve the 20-1 dilution?