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The BIGGEST Mistakes That Will Ruin Your Early Game In Zenless Zone Zero!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- These are pretty detrimental mistakes you can make in ZZZ, but let me know how you think in the comments below!
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Future Kettei here, I have posted a follow-up video to clear so misunderstandings on my points in this video as I believe I didn't come across as clear as I should have. th-cam.com/video/s8H_Y5B-S9A/w-d-xo.html hope this clears the confusion and makes it clear on my points!
Don’t farm artifacts until 45, don’t farm relics until 45. Here we go again.
I mean we want a good artifact and getting the blues isnt worth
But same XD
You are gonna struggle if you don't upgrade blues on your main team. What people don't seem to understand is that you don't need to minmax these disc and only use them as temporary stat sticks and you can eventually use them later on as exp fodder.
I'm your 100th like if you care
@@kieferkippy yes that’s fine but I’ve been able to get plenty for my main team without grinding for them so far
I'd only farm them when I unlock it max difficulty personally
It's crazy how some ppl already are super far in the game, it literally came out 3 days ago,,,,
Gotta grind!
Im on chapter 2 of the last mission and i got it on day 2 also about to be lvl 28 it honestly is super fun to me and very refreshing it doesnt even feel like any of the other hoyo games
I'm in chapter 3 now and need to grind level 34 to 36 since the main quest needs that level.
Yeah, day 6 almost a whole week of the game and I finally reached Inter Knot 30. But its crazy some people already reached that in like a day and half or even 2 days like wtf 💀
They play this game for like 10 hrs per day obviously
The only mistake I see is if you spend real money on this type of game if you are financially struggling.
Yes thats a huge mistake
mhm, Its better to fulfill your basic needs, and also your secondary needs, before going to spend money on gacha games (which are tertiary needs, basically non-vital luxury/entertainment)
Make sure you can live first before (objectively speaking) wasting money
some people have more money in game than in their bank account🤣
Note on Drive Discs: it can be worth getting a few very basic discs, cause contrary to GI and HSR, ZZZ doesn't give you a load of them through exploration - I personally improved my time on one of the Challenge commissions from 5 minutes to less than 4 minutes just by giving lv6 B-rank sets with a good 4-piece bonus to each of the characters in the team.
That being said, there's indeed absolutely no point farming a lot them before you can reliably get S-ranks - I spent exactly 180 charge on 2 quick sets (plus a free Shockstar Disco set) and now I'm waiting.
I feel that might not still be worth it to most players but if you are a player who wants to achieve that then that’s perfectly viable as well!
just get them for the set piece lole
But you get enough of that currency you need to print the disc at the shop and you can choose what kind of disc you want, that's enough for the set bonus which is enough at low levels.
@@Vintagestepyeah this
Sound advice. While the stats are almost useless on B-A tier, the set bonuses are still pretty good to pass on.
You get materials from progressing anyway, so giving your team a few basic sets is very easy and stamina-free.
Please do NOT BUY A-rank characters from shop. Buy Master Tapes (gatcha tickets) instead. You gonna pull a LOT for limited S-rank characters. That's mean a lot of A-rank stuff including chars. I have already Anton on C5 as F2P.
Addint to this, in this game getting the banner 4* is easier compered to GI or HSR because they only put two of them on one banner so buying 4*-s from the shop have lower value here.
I do think it can be worth it if an A rank is one of your absolute favorites and let’s say they haven’t came back on banner in a LONG time, you don’t want another Genshin Kaveh situation LOL
But this also means that A Ranks in the future will rerun on banner less and slower
@@KetteiThe7th_ You can only buy the started 4* anyway so sadly 4* will be pretty scarce in this game.
Yes! But the it can still be someone’s favorite similar to Genshin for Kaeya example, I think it’s worth to get his copies if you love him!
so basically just need to focus on leveling my agents first.
Yes and thier skills and weapons if you have some good one for them!
Really appreciate the video, I'm getting to that point where resource grinding is about to hamstring me if I manage it poorly. At Level 22 and starting to team build, this helps a lot, cheers and best of luck! Also I hope family issues get settled in a copacetic manner, sending good vibes
Ty! And always happy to help!
as a person who used to and still plays HSR daily saving the signal points for extra character cores is quite good, especially if your pull luck is shit and you haven't gotten any
I agree!
Praise the omnisiah
If only i knew how to farm the fucking relics. God give me patience.
there's domain just like genshin if you've played that before, you get them at a certain internot level
I agree with your points overall but I think some exception can and should be made.
For example individual drive disks are obviously only worth to farm at higher lvls BUT getting the 4 piece set bonus is really worth it and those 60 energy will not be wasted.
Same with lvling characters. yes its not worth getting all characters up to your current max BUT getting the first "ascension" for everyone is totally worth it. 3 gray materials in exchange for a single pull on standard banner? Hell yea
The only thing I want to add to your last point is to honestly go for billy, nicole and anby dupes. If they treat them as they did in genshin those three will never be on rate up and that makes them so much rarer and harder to get on c6. so whenever they are available in the shop they should be the main target with exception of new units you just weren't lucky enough to get yet.
Yes those are valid points!
Tbh, for end game content you need two teams, but for sure, start with one solid one, I for example use Nekomata, Anri and Suokaku, it's not the best team but it has enough synergy to carry me for lvl 30 content for now with some amount of comfort and it's fun to play.
Yep!
Let me know if youve made any of these mistakes so far! And also be sure to join the discord in the description!
@@KetteiThe7th_ my mistake. I went in endgame without proper team and they destroy at 3rd phase....
Rip soldier
Hahaha this is perfect because i was like how do i even get drive discs. Thanks for this. Im listening
@@YaeMikoFixedMe no problem!
i didnt do any of these mistakes because i learned from hsr and wuwa. my ellen will always be ready for the next lvl breakpoint.
the only thing that i did and im not sure if it was correct: i was running ellen, soukaku and grace but ended up replacing grace with anby because it was getting kinda hard stunning bosses at lvl 30 content. and anby can be also used for more parry occassions.
Yea that’s a solid team!
Thanks for this guide. Made some of these mistakes in Genshin and Star Rail, so I'm trying to be smarter in ZZZ. This game has been fun so far so I don't want to burn out of it.
Yea it’s not a race!
So glad I found this vid early. Haven't made any of these mistakes yet.
Ty! but also I made a follow up video to clear up some things said in this one as well!
Sir you just saved my entire game time playing ZZZ
Glad to help!
Thats my first gacha experience and i'm happy for not make any mistake util now. Thank u for the tips
No problem!
Great video, especially consider ZZZ is probably the FIRST gacha game for many ofthem
Ty bro!
Please don't arrest daddy Baldemor 🥺
I think there is some nuance for some of these.
For the fuel, I think there IS merit in using them "below level 35". I have put them into raising my team. All of them. I've spent it all. And I think it's a worthwhile investment because 1) the way experience works, energy is more worthwhile early on as the thresholds between levels is smaller in the lower levels compared to higher levels, and 2) GUARENTEED upgrades will always be more worthwhile than CHANCE upgrades. I'm currently at lv. 33, and have unlocked not only more story content but also more Hollow Levels, which has significantly increased my enjoyment of the game. I DO NOT BELIEVE that there is a "right time" to use fuel. Yes, there's "wrong times" like farming discs early on, but there's just as strong of an argument towards using them for guaranteed upgrades and account progression. Yes, it's not a race, why would you use them to progress your account level. It's because that's what I want to prioritized. And having cleared up to Shiyuu Defence 6 with all S-Rank clears, and having the ONLY reason I cannot progress be that I need to raise a 2nd team. I cannot say that it was a bad investment.
As for the W Engines, I think the same argument stands. Would I rather a strong engine, or 30 pulls? because on one hand, yes it is expensive to get the engine. But on the other hand, 30 pulls is really not that much, and you could just as likely get shafted with your pulls, making that 30 pulls wasted in a way. I think the right way to do it is to hoard these currencies, and decide what you'd like to prioritize more. For me personally, I have 117 pulls saved up, and I have no intention of pulling for the foreseeable future. But Alexandrina's W Engine is a HUGE boost in account value, not only because I have her on my account, but also because it's a downright insane support engine, giving Pen Ratio%, off-field energy regen, alongside a 20.2% attack boost. So I would really like to get it. Same logic and rules applies to the A-Rank Agents in the store. Again as I said before, it's guaranteed upgrades versus chance upgrades.
Hopefully I don't sound too disrespectful. I'd like you to know that !'m not saying this to dispute or discredit the points you made, but rather to show that saying it's the wrong decision isn't painting the whole picture. At the end of the day this is a PvE game, so playing in a way that allows you to enjoy it best should be the driving factor. And having played multiple gacha games regularly, there really isn't any kind of damage you can do to an account that isn't fixable with better planning when moving forward.
I didn’t mean to come off as NEVER use your fuel Srry if it felt that way, you are correct if your using your fuel for guaranteed upgrades then it’s not a complete waste at all! And it can be worth to use some of your fuel before 35 I just don’t think you should use ALL of your fuel before 35 imo!
@@KetteiThe7th_ yeah I can see that point. I think the issue I had was how you presented it. From listening it sounded more so like "fuel is precious do not use it" and less like "fuel is precious be smart about how you use it"
You’re right that there’s nuance to the energy situation.. it all comes down to how you feel about all of the different time gated content.
Personally, farming for drive discs takes potential months, so shortening that length to build my team is more valuable to me than any other time-gated content in the game. That said, farming drive discs is probably going to be hell already, so valuing making the story more enjoyable instead of just making a grind less terrible is also valid.
I guess it comes down to how much you hate the drive disc grind! A lot of the people watching this may not be familiar with this type of grind though, so I can understand why Kettei would recommend saving for it. It teaches them discipline, which is not only a valuable skill, but a necessary skill for these types of games. If they spend it for story progression, depending on the player….that wall later is gonna hit hard. Harder than if they’d waited to use the batteries.
I had the same plan for the W engine. But not anymore course i get 2 S Rank w engine from the standard. Big lucky is Rinas wich is my first S Rank agent. Than i got a attack one. So for me i take the chance in this case.
Wish you all luck and fun with the game.
I fell into that trap of farming artifacts early in the game when there’s no real need to yet until things get harder. You can get through pretty much all the content without having discs at all. Just focus on upgrading characters and your skills. Because if you played any hoyo game a lot of your damage comes from skills and upgrading your character. Artifacts are just the icing on it. Solid Points because I fell into this trap when I first played Genshin and thought I needed to build every character and farm artifacts incredibly early. This is just good advice for gachas in general
Yep!
hey man, amazing video! I do want to point out that at 5:56 do you mean fragile resin instead of condensed resin?
Yes my bad Ty!
Just finally unlocked the ability to use stamina and now its starting to become more familiar like Genshin and a lot of fun. I pulled S rank Kitty cat girl for my 50th pull, she's aight, but i want baseball bat girl really bad.
Lucy was a really good!
Well, I kinda agree with you, but as a veteran Genshin player who reached out to the Ar60 abyss tryharder, I would say that without disc and upgrading some of it, the struggle is real, especially when you face the challenge of combat and sh*t. I think upgrading your stats is worth it while the game itself still gives you a lot of resources anyway. Just keep in mind to upgrade the characters that you play the most, not all of them.
You can get some disks for your main team without farming super hard for them!
Not me watching this video after doing every side quest, every mewmew objective, hitting rank 36 and have done all available hollow.
Thankfully I havent made any of these mistakes... I kind of tackled this the same way I tackled hsr.
I only have three units leveled rn and its my core team!
Thank you for the video ans for all the hard work!
ayyyy your on that GRIND, Lol i love to see it!
@@KetteiThe7th_ my motivation is to speed run to trust 4 with Lycaon and I needed to get the story done... I want my boy on the screen at all time!!!
I like ur useful advice and knowledge and ur too serious i feel if i made a mistake it’s OVER
Lol it’s just a title none of these are OVER if you do them
@@KetteiThe7th_ anyways keep up the good work bro
I would agree to wait until lvl40 to farm for Disk Drives. The reason for this being that's when you'll finally be able to start getting S-rank Drives, which have higher stats and thus allow your characters to perform so much better during the mid-to-late game. At the same time though, gotta make sure you're farming for the right Drive sets, as some are more valuable on characters than others. Much like with farming character materials, it all comes down to what character you're farming for.
35 is fine too, but yea 40 is where it gets really nice to farm
Bros lit into the video tha i really listened while washing the dishes
lit into the video?
Astronomical. My first time actually playing and investing time into a game like this and I've done zero mistakes so far.
Tbf I have played hsr but I got a bit bored with having to increase your level to progress the storyline and I lost interest in the storyline. But ZZZ is honestly the best game I have played to date. Can't wait for the future updates, honestly.
amen to that!
Yeah...wish I had seen this a couple of days ago when I first started the game. This is my first true endeavor into a gatcha game (normally hate the genre because of money bleeding tactics, but this one is actually different), so I don't know the dos and don'ts. Fortunately, out of the five mistakes here, I've only made two: saving resources and team focusing. I'm at Inter-Knot level 28, and I've already come across lack of resources for character leveling because I treated this like a typical video game and leveled many characters. First I focused on my favorites and built an all out Electric type team (Rina, Anby, Anton). But then I learned how to synergize based on faction and attribution, and I get intimidated by Commissions if I can't meet their attribute recommendations (as a LONG time Pokemon player, bringing super effective damage is like a drug I need). So I began leveling characters beyond my core team, at least one in every attribute. Yes, two-thirds of my roster sit maxed at my current level cap, but now I have NOTHING. So I'm just gonna farm Commissions for my Investigator logs, leave my Drive Discs alone (started experimenting with it, gonna stop now), and continue to use my Polychrome solely on the limited time pulls (STILL have not got Ellen, the one I want anyway and wasted a bunch of Poly on the first two days looking for Nekomata, never got her). I'll keep these tips in mind and try to rectify the mistakes I already made. Thank you! I'm new at this, but maybe there's hope for me if I reach endgame!
@@captainnikolai25 you can get drive disks from the music store!
ay I haven’t played the game n this is one of the first vids on the game thank you i fucked with honesty you have I’m subbing 🙌🏾
Ty!
Thanx for the advice- jus got access to the HIA vr training-
Liking the game so far- I may go and try HKS and GI again-
Have fun!
Once you get to a certain point in Shiyu defense, you do need two teams! Which is number 7 on the first frontier. I don't know when you should start building, but you do need 2 teams at some point.
@@GhostlyGreyhound I know this my whole point was to build your first tea thoroughly then go to your second. I made a follow up video on this me today to clear up any misunderstandings on this one
As someone who plays zzz and path to nowhere, your point about stocking up resources is so true and valid because even though path to nowhere is a tower defense game, i am DYING everyday now spending most my energy on coins and level up materials.
Though thankfully I’m mostly at endgame for path to nowhere so for me personally it’s not really a waste as I have plenty of characters that are max level that I can use as my main team for future stories and event.
Good to hear!
I may or may not have spent a few ether batteries(4 of these), Oops…
It’s fine…I’ll save on them in the future and am not in a hurry…😊
No issue!
@@KetteiThe7th_ I thought you're gonna say "Skill issue" cus well these new gen alpha slangs are still haunting my dreams 🤣
Nah lol, but batteries are not wasted if you use them for guranteed upgrades like weapons and stuff but if your not in a rush I would just hold on to them and you can have a stockpile in the future to use on whatever you want!
I managed to somewhat disagree with several of your points.
1. 35 is where Drive Disks can drop 1 S rank per run. If the trend follows HSR, 45 is probably where you're guaranteed 2 per run. Although you shouldn't extensively farm drive disks at 35 and maybe not even at 40, it should be worthwhile to do a few runs to pick up a few pieces to round out your sets.
2. Based on my HSR experience, where I started towards the end of 1.2, I never actually ran out of credits and I only did a little bit of credit farming due to people who were advising it. The main primary resource that I ran out of, a lot, during my experience, has always been light cone XP. Particularly if you're limiting the number of units you're raising, you shouldn't need to prefarm dennies. Promotion and Skill materials are probably a better bet. If you got enough, start prefarming for your second team.
3. Based on that same HSR experience, I was able to raise 2.5 teams without running out of materials, up until I got all ten of them to level 70. Because Shiyu Defense requires 2 teams, you should already be looking ahead and planning out your second team. When it comes to maxing out a character, if it follows the general trend, bringing a character to 60 and maxing out everything costs twice as much as bringing them to 50, and about four times as much as bringing them to 40.
Now, again, my experience with HSR had me starting late, and that gave me some extra resources from the extended storyline that launch players did not have. Still, if you want to challenge the end game content, you should be fine to raise two teams. The main consideration is, will you pull someone in patch 1.1 or 1.2 that will completely throw out some members or all of your secondary team? Personally, I'm gambling on disorder holding up for a few patches and being a worthwhile low investment team that I can use to invest in now before pivoting to something else later down the line.
4. On saving fuel... I once worked out why saving fuel was slightly more efficient than spending it but I can't what it was. The main argument for not saving them is that there are no events where spending your fuel later is more efficient than spending them now. The farming stages you can run now that are less efficient simply front load the stamina expenditure you'd be using to reach the next proxy level breakpoint anyway. The biggest efficiency value you can probably get from saving up fuel is likely to be pushing your way to the next promotion to improve your weekly boss fight rewards (think of every fuel as a bonus 600 proxy XP), or to squeeze out a bit more farming to improve your Shiyu Defense attempt before it ends.
I do overall agree with the message of not spending them right away - they're more useful for things like this when spending them usually isn't going to get you that much anyway, but there's no need to hang on to them until legendary proxy either.
5. I do agree with not buying the W-engines from the shop right away, but that's more due to not knowing right now which one might be the equivalent of Bronya's light cone (which I managed to still not get, because I spent my savings on Firefly E2 instead). I'm not sure spending them on A-rank units for constellations are worth it, but it might be worthwhile to get a new A rank you haven't managed to pull yet. If you don't plan on pulling on weapon banners (which I only did for Kafka's rerun and now Firefly), you might want to get one of those W-engines once it's clearer which one holds the most long-term value.
Right now, except maybe buying a W-Engine in the shop, I don't think any F2P/low spending players are in any position to have made irreparable mistakes... unless they already went all out on disk drive farming when they haven't even unlocked S rank drops yet.
@@memetic_hazard 1. I never meant you can’t farm drive disks at all, I’m saying there are playing going all out for them and it’s just not worth and I did say level 35 in the video but I would prefer 40 for myself
2. Credits it just depends on how many agents you actually plan to raise cause in Star rail I was starving for credits all the time cause I wanted to build a lot of teams
3. I think players should build one team up then build the second instead of trying to build 6 at one time
4. If your a casual like most people are I don’t think rushing to spend all your fuel is worth it when the game ain’t going anywhere and your just getting stuff a few days faster, I would spend it once you have a clear position on what you want to do with your account
5. Absolutely do not spend on W engines rn. F2P and low spenders should get the limited pulls instead. Maybe a w engine could be valuable later on but it isn’t rn imho
This is my first ever game in the genre, I’m a classic standard gamer, cod, last of us bla bla, and this has hooked me!!! Two s tier pulls instantly, no money spent, level 23, and hooked!!! Loving it
Glad u like it!
2 minutes just to say you need to hit lvl 35 to unlock s-rank drives.
Wow a whole 120 seconds? Damn this Kettei guy fucking sucks
No one cares lil bro
Bro’s speaking in slow mo
@@KetteiThe7th_L + staller + tectone better
Thanks for the comment!
Definitely was gonna try and focus on leveling 6 characters at the same time lol. I was skeptical about wasting a lot of the resources you mentioned and I’m glad I didn’t. I’ll have a team for endgame and I’ll progress others slowly when I want a little variety by playing easier missions.
Glad to help!
This is my first Hoyo game so these tips are extremely helpful. I must ask tho what are constellations?
@@TtronX duplicates of characters, also watch my follow up video in the pinned comment on this one!
Gotta get to bed ill definitely watch when i wake up! Lord knows ive made a couple of these haha
Have a good night!
I'm a new player to the gacha game world with ZZZ being my first. Maybe i played one before without knowing. Luckily, the only mistake so far was using the batteries, but only 2. Once I learned how much of a waste it was, I stopped.
Thank you for the tips!
It’s not a waste if you use them for guaranteed upgrades like leveling up characters and w-engines but I personally would save them in case a character came out you love so you have a lot of resources to use for them!
6:20 every advice are correct except for this one. It's the same misconception from genshin and honkai. You should use your batteries now (on anything other than discs) so you can hit higher levels earlier. There is no advantage saving them for later.
This advice is mostly for the casuals in the game, they gain nothing from hitting higher levels early because they only play a little bit a day, so I think it’s better for them to save their batteries for future characters they like rather than using them all. If your not a casual them using your batteries is perfectly fine
For the engines, there are some cases in hsr where standard lightcones still perform. Like Clara's lightcone or Himeko's lightcone
yes but we dont know the true power of these standard w-engines as of yet, we should know in a week or two how strong they can actually be for endgame
Another tip to add, keep an eye on the daily coffee you can get at the coffee shop, each day there will be coffee that will buff the drop rate for materials, so not only you get 60 extra energy daily, you also get some extra materials
Yep!
It all comes down to shuyi defense though, if you will need some decent DDs to clear more of it before it resets, then you should farm them, instead of uslesss stu that you wont even be ableto use until ater the current shuyi defense expires and you lose the rewards forever.
I made a follow up video for this addressing this
After reaching IK35,i've circled back to this video,and here's my advice:
At max,you should be building 6 characters.
Anby,Nicole,and your first standard should carry you until your first limited character.
The Signal shop talent chips are shortcuts worth getting IF you have bought out the 10 searches and can keep your shop currency reserves above 900 for next month's reset.
If you really like a character,wait for them to pop up in the monthly store,but remember they cost 7 searches you could buy instead.
One shop S rank W-engine= 30 shop pulls,so i'd highly not recommend them.
Sounds about right to me, but you said S rank are worth and then followed it up with highly not recommended…. Which one is it man LOL
@@KetteiThe7th_ cleaned it up a bit,hope it's less confusing👍
Yea much better lol
Funny how all of these tips can be applied to Honkai and Genshin as well. Artifacts and relics are pretty much useless before u can get 5 star ones. Currency runs out fast, when I ran out of mora in Genshin it was a hell grinding it. It's hard making multiple teams considering how much resources you have to use.
I really love pulling for new characters and making new teams but then I remember that gacha games are so grindy. The best thing in gacha games are getting new characters bit It's a hell when you have to build them. Resources get thin and it requires a lot of grinding just to build a new character especially the more further in the game you are. I'm still in early game in ZZZ but in Genshin after I maxed my first team I ran out of mora and other resources making a new 4 characters team journey so long. I'm scared that ZZZ will probably follow the same path.
Yea resource grind is hell lol
I made like only one of these mistakes but not fully yet.. TIME TO FARMMM! I need Shark girl!!!!!
Good luck!
regardless what u farm its will be almost nothing on hitting next 10 levels, so better farm everything to help getting 45-50 faster, like on 40 "vital resources" drop amount is more then x10 per 20 energy compared to level 20, and on lvl 50 its boost even more.
Zenless in no genshin or hsr, just level faster, to do so focus on single party first, base that party from first S rank and available A ranks.
Also, A rank with u know how to play is a lot better then S rank u're noob on, this is MAIN difference in zenless, player values more then characters or gear.
i dont agree with the batteries. We do need to use them to level up more easily. Plus, we still need to wait a bit until farming discs is super important so honestly just spend them to level up. We´ll get more of them
So this point on the batteries I explained myself more in my follow up video, but this video is for super casuals and I didn’t state that so it’s my fault, but for casual who play less than an hour a day and aren’t in a rush to min max for endgame there’s no need to rush to use them. But anyone else it’s perfectly fine to use them whenever
Me thinking how do you farm disc 😅 running with nekomata piper and lucy .. focusing on assist counter and dodge counter with nekomata at the center
i like that teams synergy!
In my opinion the biggest mistake you can make is if you're not enjoying the game to continue playing it, and if you see something you want or something you wanna do something do it, don't take it so seriously, unless you want to
Having fun is most important!
Why is buying the W-Engine on shop bad? Those can be used and pass around to multiple characters in the future, buying the cinema or rolls will actually hurt a potential upgrade to the account since (1) cinema purchases will actually diminish its value once you hit a point where you C6 A rank characters and (2) Buying rolls is good for getting more chances on the gacha but will hinder you for getting a permanent upgrade which is buying a W-Engine who universally can be used on a specific criteria of characters. Even if those power crept by new W-Engine, can you say it to my face that the average player WILL ROLL FOR THE ENGINE BANNER instead of the character banners...
Look you can get them if you want, but that's 30 whole pulls, and for a F2P player which that point was directed for, I cant ever justify them losing 30 whole pulls for a new character when they WILL make stronger and stronger A rank Engines in the future that will be more than strong enough to use. Theyve done it in genshin and star rail so ofc their gonna make strong A ranks for ZZZ too
@@KetteiThe7th_ Here's what I think would be a better advice here. Save up on those currency until the time you need them, if pulls is what you lack, go for pulls only at that moment. If you're in that time where you can afford a W-Engine for a new character you want to build, go for it.
Bruh I quite literally said that in my updated video for this one and you commented on that one too, what is going on here 😂 and I’ve also have said in other videos of mine if you don’t need pills then getting a engines is fine. Like I don’t get what you’re trying to accomplish here at all lol
It’s okay bro I have bad family issues too! I accidentally avoided grave issues to my ZZZ account because of family issues! So it’s a blessing and a curse, I feel you.❤
Essentially the same issues that all the other Mihoyo games have except for Honkai Impact, early game being anti-consumer and punishing you for wanting to build more than three characters, at the very least early game here is more tolerable than in Genshin
yee lol
Is it worth it to even grind for regular Master Tapes? Encrypted Master Tapes are more valuable for getting a new S rank character that you want.
I’m just not sure if that character will show up again once the limited time has passed. Had a thought that the previous S-Rank character would show up in the Stable Channel
The limited banner pulls are always more worth it!
The relic system is very confusing coming from hsr, with the different discs and nothing to differentiate them, no clue what stat I am looking for too
Will do a video on it in the future! But there’s other great CC that will cover that topic too!
make 1 team first then go for a 2nd (focus on characters that will be future proof)
Yep!
I did 5 drive disc missions for the pass mission, but yeah, since it is weekly, that is gonna hurt. Might just buy the levels from that exp missing
Ive been rerolling for days to get the wolf so i haven't been able to make any mistakes. Ive only actually started to play yesterday after getting him and ill for sure keep these in mind
Lol your tougher than me I could never re roll LOL
@@KetteiThe7th_ I won't lie, I lost track after 14 accounts. But I learned a lot about the combat through it! I figured since I don't know how long I'll be playing this game (hopefully at least a year), I need to at least start with one character I really want and have fun
Nice!
i dont even know if i will still be playing in two months, and I want to have fun now, so not all tips apply to me
That’s perfectly fine
just a perspective as a video editor, your concise and paced way of talking is really good for videos like this. However, make sure youre using a script instead of freeballing the info as you record. Nothing turns viewers away more than a slow pace of narration thats also full of repeated lines and improvised filler. I can understand wanting to meet the 10min mark but dont do it this way, especially when hundreds of channels are already covering these same topics in much shorter, more straight to the point videos
I’ll see about it!
Yo, do anybody have tips to save battery, because waiting battery to fill up is so long
just spend it on stuff that's guaranteed upgrades, like character level, agent skills, w-engine level, you could even get a few drive disks for your main dps for now but i wouldnt farm that much until u get higher level Internot
who are u replying to?
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Some those S rank W-engine are literaly game changing items. Like top right one for Nekomata that one lone increases her dmg by 45%. Bottom left one for Solider 11 that on increases her dmg by 48%. Not sure how you can tell me to ignore them when alternative is a 5% increase in dmg. Don't get me wrong yes you could get 30 exclusive pulls instead and that is impressively better if your trying to get the banner character but if your not trying to force the banner character those engines are 100% better to go for than 30 attempts at the banner character.
@@All0Mighty0Power I never said they aren’t good weapons tho, they are good but in terms of being a f2p or low spender, getting more pulls is usually more worth it. Now I have said in 2 follow-up videos now if you don’t see a future character you want coming anytime soon, then go for the w-engine it’s not gonna hurt ya. But if you see characters you want, prioritizing them is more worth it
The only mistake I see is spending Polychromes, god forbid Monochromes, on Battery Charges.
yea that isn't worth it all all for a lot of people lol
Hey man! since I've been super busy and tired, I've not put much into the game, and have only checked some of your videos in ZZZ (I was trying to avoid it 😭)
Is there any way to tell what is the resistance of enemies and weaknesses WITHOUT having to memorize them from the guide?
I mean like color cues or stuff like that
Human enemies, weak to fire
Machines weak to electric
Ethereal weak to ether
S drive-disc are at level 40? Good to know, I'm at 37 and waiting for farming them
im sure you can get some s discs now at 35!
Thought for sure one of the mistakes would be spending the Primo equivalent on standard banner pulls instead of the character banners.
I agree!
LoL I only got hit on the battery cuz I got a new A character and when I’m to get it up to level 😊
That’s perfectly fine
I only did one mistake not save the batteries
It’s not a huge deal lol, if you used it on characters you love is it really a waste?
So far, I've made 1 out of the 5 mistakes in the game.
Nice!
What made me quit Genshin, was the terrible practice of leveling up your chars and gears via limited currency. You don´t level anything up by just playing. You have to invest a resource that you (back then) couldn´t even farm. Got a new S-Tier char? too bad, you can´t even level them up, but maybe wanna buy some crap with real-life money?
Okay good video since I did build my roster up to everyone to a certain point like level 20 each. Mainly because one is because I need to use specific elements. But if I get that blue chick for the 17th time….I’m burning this game
Damn the Soukaku curse!
@@KetteiThe7th_ not wrong I’d sell my kidney for one S that have another soukaka
Damn
no rooster in zzz but a bear a shark and a wolf exist
@@aceleen_is_my_name_is_acel4995 lol I realized I misspelled that XD. Also I finally got ellen! Do not question if I sold my left kidney for the roll
When he is saying not to waste those credits for w-engine, he wanted to say to loose 50/50 for them
Nah I just think for the average player Limited pulls are better than getting w-engine
You say to stock up on resources. I can understand the leveling materials, but materials like the promotions and for the skills, is it safe to do so until the next version is unlocked? Is there synthesize to make them a higher level material?
Nah, just the basic stuff until you are sure which characters your going for in the future
@@KetteiThe7th_Alrighty. Thank you!
i think my first mistake is the third one since i've yet to spend my master tapes, boopons, and other types of gacha tickets and only been upgrading Anby, Nicole, and Billy 😅
That’s not a mistake! You’re saving your resources till you know what you want, that’s perfectly fine!
@@KetteiThe7th_ I'm actually gonna pull tomorrow after reaching level 30 proxy and claiming my last encrypted master tape on the 7th login event
also, any tips of obtaining encrypted master tapes? It would be much appreciated 🙂
I’m still behind bro gotta catch up on the game haven’t been able to play as much I’ll catch up soon!
@@KetteiThe7th_ Oh, my bad bro 😅
Is it a bad idea to try to farm a second team to help with side elements? Ive noticed my main teams output falls short when it comes to ice based levels
Not at all you’re gonna eventually need a team for every element, just build them one at a time.
Get one team to level 40 then you can work on another
My team is just A rank cunning hares because their great lol
@@codfish8978 I love them too lol
I've already done all of those mistakes😅
lol you’ll be fine still
making combat easier or clearing faster by getting discs early on is not a mistake, far from it, and you'll stack up on basic mats whether you want to or not regardless if you farm for them or not
Getting a few disks is okay but I wouldn’t waste to many resources early on for drive disks!
Should i try to get ellen c1 or schould i wait to maybe get zhu Yuan in the future?
And is it worth to buy pulls with polychrome?
Poly chrome are the equivalent to pulls, and I would wait for more info on Zhu yuan before Ellen banner leaves, I’ll make a video on her before Ellen joe leaves!
What stock number would you recommend I save for upgrading my agents like up to 100 or something much higher in your preference?
I believe that’s more of a personal thing! I would look at how many characters you really plan on leveling up in the future and you should be able to determine eventually how much stock you should keep!
I can’t do all this, my computer can barely open the game 😭
That’s suck man
As of now I guess I’m gonna mainly focus on leveling up soldier 11 and Lucy. Praying I get Piper so I can have a fully coordinated fire focused team set up
Sounds good!
if you have ben, s11 x lucy x ben is a great combo. Dunno why you would choose piper over ben tbh
I think Ben is better for that team too but you gotta remember some people refuse to play the furries just like others refuse to play the kid characters so it could be a personal preference thing
@@KetteiThe7th_ yeah true the most important thing is to have fun! just thought ben would be better. Other than that you got koleda which is great alongside s11 and lucy, honestly fire probably has the most options for a good team rn
@@KetteiThe7th_ Wait wait it’s not like I hate Ben or the animal characters or anything like that. I just don’t really like how Ben feels to play. He’s just kinda slow and tbh if I can just land dodges at the right time, I won’t really need defense buffs anyway. The reason why I have Piper as my third is because she can help deal with more crowded situations, help stun enemies, and build up damage super easily with the assault anomaly. Plus I can try to inflict assault and burn on an enemy around the same time and cause disorder, which basically removes even more health.
I’m pretty sure there are videos using that team that show just how devastating Soldier 11, Lucy, and Piper can be together. You could check them out if you want
How are we supposed to stock up on these valuable resources if we already don't have enough of them? I spend energy just to progress a bit in upgrading my team.
That’s fine!
As someone who prefarms using dreams. I don't need to save my batteries ngl xD
Ah the classic dreamer! Well played LOL
I disagree regarding Ether Batteries. We receive 300 Battery Charge per day (240+60 from coffee), so for every 5 Ether Batteries you advance one day of farm, this means that you can reach level 40~45 sooner and then farm better discs. You just anticipate time. However, the argument that it is good to save it to build new characters quickly is very solid. I believe that the ideal is a middle ground, for example, using the to level up main team's skills and w-engines (when necessary) and saving the rest, because there isn't much point in waiting hours or a day to level up and having to play with more difficulty or longer battles in the meantime.
Your points are solid too!
Solid vid but 2 late I spend everything time 2 use credit card😢
It’s all good
Me watching this knowing i wasted all my ether batteries on Ellen Joe
If you love her then is it really a waste? Lol
Best ZZZ content creator.
Ty so much!
So uh...I have the whole cunning hares trio (billy anby and Nicole) at level 30...they are the strongest characters I have in my small roster right now...does that mean I have to stick with those characters for the rest of the game even after finding characters that I like more?- (Don't get me wrong I love the cunning hares, that's why I leveled them up so much to begin with, but there are also a few characters that I'm interested in and would love to play with.
Note: I still don't have an S-Rank character, I'm level 24 and I've been playing since its release, been piling up all my polychrome and master tapes by doing missions. And of course, combining that with the initial rewards I had from pre-ordering the game and the ones from the mail I got for free...I've stacked up quite a bit for pulls.
No absolutely not! Just pick a team that like to begin with then branch out to others later on!
@@KetteiThe7th_ oh okay, thank you for your help!
Mistake number one for me is thinking my pulls would be decent, Grace and Electric Bangboo is all I want.
@@rikuclad1264 damn bro I’m Srry!
@KetteiThe7th_ haha reroll time bro, keen to start this marathon.
Your content is insanely good, even if I already know what you saying I still watch.
Ty!
play how you like but with f2p then dont rush. though i rushed and now on level 35. basically i spend on gacha games i play so im fine with it. trying to get friendship 4 on ellen and basically speed reading early story so i can use her on the world.
Sounds good!
they aint usable outside of hollow. zzz is basically teapot and abyss.
Some Ytbers saying the game is trash
Also this dude at 00:38
@@Super_Idol ? What happened at 38 seconds
I spent all my ether batteries a while ago. Everything else is good tho
You’ll be fine lol
Lvl 28 and struggling to have materials already xD
The pain of HOYO games LOL
@@KetteiThe7th_ yep xD and desperation of standard banner pulls xD
Genshin plus hsr player here 😆
Nice!
I’m guilty of two of these
It’s all good it’s not account threatening lol