Ora Et Labora - Playthrough & Review (Uwe Rosenberg Series)
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Welcome to the continuation of our Uwe Rosenberg Designer Series, a series of gameplay videos where we will be showcasing a majority of Uwe Rosenberg's board game titles. This is “Ora Et Labora," a game published by Lookout Games in 2011. This video includes a rules overview.
JUMP:
00:00 - OVERVIEW
12:12 - Playthrough Start
01:34:14 - End Game Scoring
01:38:57 - Review
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Thank you Monique and Naveen for the great playthrough! I think you have the best ones out there. That's not hyperbole, I really do believe it. I tend to use playthroughs to decide if a game is worth getting, or at least playing, and you've definitely helped me time and time again. I think it's your ability to explain the rules concisely, as well as making it clear exactly what you're doing on each turn. Of course, the fact that we tend to have similar tastes in games helps! I think the only thing that would make it better (for me at least), would be playthroughs with multiple people. As for Ora et Labora, I think it's a definite play, but not buy.
Nathan, I don't know what made us forget to respond to your lovely comment, but we apologize. That is very sweet of you to say and it really means so much to us both. Collabs for higher player count games is definitely a goal for us for 2023! And that is a great assessment, definite play, but not buy.
Yesss! I've been looking forward to this entry the most. This has been on my shelf of shame since it was released. 😳
LOL NO WAY!!!
Amazing video as usual, I love Uwe's games but Ora is the one I haven't tried yet.
Also, you asked fot it, so @33:01 Naveen collects clay without using any building - I guess Monique's victory is legit..
I just noticed that too. Having watched the glass road playthrough in which Naveen did pretty much the same thing, I conclude that Naveen doesn't know how to use the action wheel properly. Oh well, more practice there Naveen. Nice playthrough though.
Great explanation and play thru! I rarely make it all the way through play thrus, but this was enjoyable and not too long. The secret must be in the editing. Well done.
For what it’s worth, the “long” two player game isn’t really that much longer-it’s pretty easy after a couple plays to get playtime closer to 2-2.5 hours (which yes, is still long).
The “long” version uses the “regular” side of the production wheel, so goods build a little faster (which speeds the early game) and there are three turns per round instead of two. Rules as written say players take turns AAB-BBA-AAB-BBA, but in our plays we don’t like the feel of a single player getting three consecutive actions, so we follow ordering more similar to the 3-4 player game, ABA-BAB-ABA-BAB. It flows pretty smoothly and you’d be surprised what a difference it can make to have some of those 3-4 player buildings in the mix.
This is right up there at the top of the list for Rosenbergs for me (though it’s a tough call between this and A Feast for Odin).
I actually prefer this at two players (long version, with modified turn ordering as above)-three is ok, as is four, but there it gets a bit more unruly to track who has what building as the game progresses.
[Edit: oh, and you only play down to three buildings at the end of the “long” version, so don’t have quite as brutal an ending condition-yeah, there are more total buildings, but there is more flexibility on not requiring players to play until they’ve built even the buildings no one wants. ]
I just finished watching this play through, because I have just purchased this very old title. So I am late on both counts......lol. In fact as I am writing this, the parcel has arrived.
I love your teach, very smooth, excellent work. I don't mind long games as me and my friend used to spend full days on any type of game, although that is mainly due to my friends extreme AP..........lol. It has never bothered me though as I have always loved the experience. I purchased this as I thought it was well out of print. Great work to you both and well done on excellent videos. Sorry, I've gone on a bit......oooops.
Best uwe game. Period. Love it so much at 4 players.
33:00 Naughty Naveen collects clay clergyless!
LOL he had a hard time remembering to spend workers
My biggest regret in gaming is that I sold my copy of Ora et Labora a while ago when I got Caverna. I have tried getting one again, but couldn’t find one yet. Taking into account the positioning of the buildings makes this game so great.
The building positioning sort of breaks the brain haha but it's definitely what makes the game different. I hope you are able to find a copy!
Lesson learned
Always a good day when I see a new playthrough on your channel, I'm excited to see more of what Uwe has to offer!
Aw thank you for watching!
What perfect timing. I had this game all set up on my dining room table and I said to myself, "ok let me try to figure this game out". and then I checked TH-cam and you all just did a playthrough. What a big help that was. Thank you!
Among your featured Uwe games that I haven't played, this is the one that attracted me the most. Thank you.
Love Uwe Rosenberg games! Thank you!
Great playthrough as always! I'm really looking forward to the rest of the series and hearing your thoughts overall.
I love this game! Thanks for the play through, you two!
😘
My favorite Uwe game! The length of the game - when my wife and I play, we set aside the time for an epic evening! But we do the same thing with Le Havre. We always do the long game.
My only beef with the game is the rule book, though.....
Wow! Way too easier that I thought! I was overwhelmed by the tons of rules and components, but it's a simple game. Thank you, you are the best! Hugs from Brazil!
Yeah, we thought that was a great part of the game too, its simplicity. Not overly complicated, which is great! Thank you for watching!!
Amazing playthrough what a commitment. It actually looks quite fun minus the length indeed and also so much bookkeeping with those tokens ! But I like the wheel, and the fact that you seem to always have a way to find stg sweet to do. Thanks for introducing this game to me !
A really helpful play through. Thanks!
Happened to just play the game this weekend for the first time in years and remembered how much I loved it. I've only played the 2-player game once, and it felt like a completely different game to me-scores were much higher (because almost every building gets built) and the game went *much* longer. At 3 or 4, it is still long, but you play a fixed number of rounds and everything is a lot tighter, so it doesn't overstay its welcome as much, IMO.
Oh wow how neat that you all just played it as well! I think the 3 or 4 player game sounds ideal
Great play through...I really enjoyed it!
Awesome playthrough, thanks for thy huge time commitment for our sake! Really looking forward to Nusfjord and Fields or Arle (with expansion if you can - expansion is on my shelf of shame)
I've only played this at three, and it is definitely a favourite. Our scores are significantly lower, right around 200, and play time comes in at 90-120 minutes.
That's awesome to hear! A 90-min playtime for this game btw sounds fantastic.
We're like 4 hours each game.. usually 4 tho
Great playthrough, thank you :)
Thanks for watching!
Love watching the vids Shout out from South Africa because of yall im into board games now🔥🔥🔥
Awwww so cool!!! Welcome to the beautiful hobby haha, it's so fun. Thank you!
I was wondering when the series will be continuing! Thank you for sharing and all the hard work behind it Monique and Naveen.
Thanks for watching! We're very happy to be continuing it again.
I saw 新年快乐 (Happy Lunar New Year) on Naveen’s shirt ! Haha Today is the day 😂
I thought you guys did a fantastic job of playing this game. I know I would not be as good at it as you. Uwe games are always of interest to me and I will have to give this one more thought! Thank you for the great playthrough!
Ah thank you so much!
Ooh, here we go. On track with our Uwe series! I’ve got to say this game, just like Nusjford and Bohnanza is so hard to find! 😭
Soo excited to be back! We didn't realize it was so difficult to find =/ We have Nusfjord coming up too
@@BeforeYouPlay yes! Well probably it’s location dependent. Good to see you guys are back on track, I still haven’t bought A Feast for Odin and already know you guys SUPER LOVE IT, hence would like to see it in play. Looking forward in the future!
I have had my eye on this game for years and really enjoyed this playthrough. It makes me want it even more, but getting my hands on a copy at a reasonable price is tricky. Maybe there will be a reprint in the future. Thanks again for your work. Hope to see you two at GenCon next month.
hilarious ending.... lolol all the light, all the love
Eagerly waiting for the A feast of Odin playthrough 😃
We're REALLY looking forward to that one! Glass Road and Caverna are first though
Great playthrough guys! The end game scoring reaction was best. Also, happy new year to you(r shirt) too I guess Naveen? 🙃
That shirt was the first thing I noticed!
thank you!! And Naveen was thrilled that you noticed his shirt haha
Ora et Labora in half the time is just Ora OR Labora.
Love O&L, love the multi-faceted scoring and strategies that you need to focus on as you mentioned.
The ending condition does seem to drag it out more. Wonder if you could house rule either only 1 building left in the offer, or once the round marker passes the 'E' building phase - which would have cut off 9 extra rounds from your game.
Great playthrough, loved it and great job coming down to only 1 point with two very diverse play styles.
I have been looking forward to this series!!! Ora & Labora is on my list and i was not sure if i wanted it yet. Hopefully you help me make my decision! (You both helped me add La Havre to my collection)
After watching through and seeing that fantastic ending 🤣 this is going on my buy list.
I am going to need a bigger shelf for my Uwe games
@@ethicalzombiegaming LOL! Uwe Rosenberg is such a great designer, right??
@@BeforeYouPlay one of my favorite!
Currently have from him: Indian summer, Le Havre, Glass road, Hallertau, a feast for Odin w/ the Norwegians, and Bonanza.
Wow, in the end it was just one point difference. And there's a lot of points to earn in this game.
I will try it out hopefully later this week.
Are you playing Fields of Arle at some point? I've forgot about it but it's a classic 2 only Uwe, right? It would be nice to see it on the series.
Yay!!!! More Uwe!
wow this game was a journey, if you want one mention of a potential way for monique to have properly pulled ahead, I think the best way to do the last turn would have been to activate the palace to re-activate the cloister to get another 12 points, instead of the 6 points. but honestly my brain would have been properly fried at that point so there's no way i could blame you. excellent job
LOL you're right! Totally missed that, but you're right by that point we were pretty tired haha. Thanks for watching!
Happy new year, Naveen!
haha Happy New Year! You noticed the shirt!
FINALLY!
You should hold the cards you are trying to explain closer to the camera so that we can actually read them.
I have zero idea how exactly you do this, but again you manage to make a dry Euro looks so fun! Now I want to play this. :)
Another lovely play through. Big love
LOL thanks Terry! and also thanks for the feedback, maybe we will alternate announcing scores from now on. The old outro theme song was changed a while back but we will likely work on more branding after our anniversary =) Thanks!
This is tied with Agricola as my favourite Uwe game. I don't find it too long once you play it a few times. You can play a two player game in about 90-100 minutes.
You can always count on me for non-game related questions apparently - what is that adorable little mug/pottery with legs dangling off the mantle? 😍
LOL it's a planter but it doesn't have a drainage hole so we're planning on putting some air plants in there at some point.
Love your gameplays! I would LOVE of you can do a gameplay of BUS!!
Oooooh, we've been very intrigued by that game. We will work on it!
@@BeforeYouPlay Pleeease play Bus! I've been having a blast playing that one recently. Also really looking forward to your playthrough of Nusfjord!
Three player is best in my opinion although player's eyes may suffer from reading opponents' buildings, some upside down. Two player long game is VERY satisfying if you enjoy the game and have the time, but know you will dedicate your evening or better part of the day to play it.
Oh yeah that's a great point about the 3-4 player version but we'll need to try it at 3.
Question around the 18-20 minute mark..Looks like the wheel is being turned every turn instead of both players playing then moving the wheel??
Yay Uwe series back in full effect! That said, as much as this game looks great it suffers from the same problem as Le Havre which is it seems to overstay its welcome at the end there. I might have to create a shorter variant.
I have dropped Le Havre for Nusfjord as I get just as much gameplay in half the time. My feeling is that there are too many filler collection actions in Ora and Le Havre. (I never really loved Ora for some reason)
Yeah, definitely in the 2-player game. We're intrigued to see how the short 3-player game goes though. It's apparently only an hour
@@BeforeYouPlay That's an hour in board game box time, which means 2 hours 😉
If I remember right in a two player game you decide when the end game triggers right? Unlike fixed rounds in 3 or 4. So I think it went too long maybe because you didn't trigger the end game trigger soon enough.
Yes, absolutely. The end-game is triggered when all but one of the buildings in the display remain, so we were a bit slow on building them probably.
33：05 Not need spend worker to do this? When gather 4 clay action.
Yeah, he was supposed to spend a worker lol. He had a difficult time remembering that rule.
Definitely best at 3, I won't play it at a different count unless everyone really wants to play it.
37:00 i think Naveen didnt pay for he building he built on the coast...
LOL great catch! I think he was distracted by buying the landscape lol
What is the table mat that you play on? Is this a board game table? Just a mat you bought ti put over a table?
I’m trying to find an economic thing to overlay on my table for games. Table sized neoprene mat feels so expensive
That was amazing - one point?!?
Why is naveen wearing a T-shirt with "Happy New Year" in Chinese lol. Definitely not expecting that.
At 33:00 Naveen illegaly picked up clay
So: next stop Glass Road? Looking forward to it since I learned about this series. I just KNOW you gonna love it!
To me this seems like Le Havre but on land. Passed on Le Havre mostly because it felt you have one path to that game, and I know others will disagree and that is okay. Here too sure you can do settlements/buildings vs tokens but your buildings/settlements give you tokens and you can use your opponents stuff and that stuff is in Le Havre, so idk. Plus Le Havre is nice at 2p, taking multiple turns down the port, but I enjoy more people so one time down the port isn't so fun. Here more people going into 3+ hours, and it's not that interesting, won't be playing this anytime.
Totally fair! This one is quite long
Great playthrough! When scoring settlements you do not count the settlement bonus for the settlement itself. For instance, Naveen's fishing village is only worth 20 points (for the ocean space, windmill, hamlet, and harbor promenade). Monique is right...call it a tie!!!! ;-)
I'm not sure that's correct. I just looked at the rules again to check and it seems pretty clear that you also take the settlement into account, unless I am misunderstanding you.
@@adamkenney6932 I've been playing this wrong for so long! I'm way better at Ora et Labora than I thought! yay! ;-)
@@kochforprez haha, that's a very positive way to look at it!
@@kochforprez LOL!!!
“新年快乐”means happy new year
哈哈哈 why do you wear that shirt?
I think he was given that shirt and really liked it. He's happy that it really says Happy New Year haha
I just found the way it's rule book being written and the whole flow of the game n't feel smooth for me😢 i can't understand why
I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on Glass Road, assuming you cover that one - it's a much faster playing game which (a far as I can tell) has a lot of similar DNA to this
Yes, definitely playing that one! I believe it's coming up next amongst the big box games
@@BeforeYouPlay Have fun! I've been thoroughly enjoying it :)
Sorry, no. My girlfriend and I really like Ora but Glass Road fell flat. Totally different feeling.
this game should have desert in the title...cuz it is soooooo dry!....lol!