Why You Should Be A Socialist In 2023
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- Happy New Year! You've probably heard a lot of talk about socialism becoming more popular over the past few years. There's a reason for that! The capitalist system has shown itself to be incapable of solving the problems it creates, and more and more people are living a worse life than their parents or grandparents. What's going on here, and is socialism the way forward?
Why You Should Be A Socialist In 2023 - Second Thought
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Capitalist here- originally clicked on your video for a laugh, but this was one of the most insightful and well thought out videos I’ve seen on this website in awhile. Thank you for the wisdom. You have earned a subscriber.
Thanks for watching, and glad you liked it! One small point of clarification, unless you own the means of production (a factory, hotel, agricultural land, etc) you’re not a capitalist, you’re a person who supports capitalism.
@@SecondThought It works in both directions by the way. Friedrich Engels' family owned a factory. There are more examples like that. Support or critique of capitalism can be found in both capitalist and worker class.
Capital ism fulfilled its historic mission. It already gave humanity its fruits as a historic stage of evolutionary development. Is no more necessary for the survival of humanity. In fact it has become an obstacle and dangerous in its decay as a mature system. The productive forces already are capable to satisfy and serve the needs of survival and enrichment for every single human in existence and to come. The wealthy class must comprehend that they are no more an indispensable class as such special privileged group over the rest. They must step aside or be set aside from the functions of government and the state. They are becoming sociopathic in their stubborn hold on the reins of power. Humanity is at risk in their hands. No more wars for profit are needed. They are not needed in the position of power to decide. Democracy must ve allowed to be possible if we expect to survive their ways.
traitor
Second thought just repeats Marxist talking points and propaganda. He says the rich became more rich during the pandemic and leaves out the fact that government lockdowns shut down their competition (people like Second Thought were completely on board with shutting down everything except 'essential businesses', which are owned by the rich). He replaces most nuance with a 'rich bad' or 'capitalism bad' because most of his ideas rest on Marxist theory which assumes an oligarchic elite is secretly taking advantage of everyone (like most conspiracy theorists). He fear mongers about normal people being fascist and presents the far left as the only 'moral' political opinion to have.
It's sad to see so many people getting radicalized by people like Second Thought because they don't question the things they are told.
As some who worked in a worker co-op for a year I’ll say it could be a little annoying having meetings and referendums, but it was totally worth it. No a-hole bosses, no feeling like I wasn’t being payed my worth without having input on it, no feeling like my work was being made harder because my manager wouldn’t listen. You should try it. You don’t actually dread pulling into work every day
It definitely requires more personal effort, instead of just delegating the control to a boss. There's pros and cons to each control scheme. And there are many people that would choose to delegate the control to a boss to not care about it.
This sounds like some 1930s Soviet worker would write on their diary
"Dear diary, got to go to the local farmers' soviet assembly today. Vadim was a butthole, but finally we did solve the grain distribution problems. Man I hate these assemblies
Edited: WAY better than living under that Duke Ivanovich of Prokhorskaya tho. Dat guy was BEYOND butthole"
a cooperative is not the same as communism. you are very confused. its simple, who distributes the goods in communism?? the rich. actual robber barons. its where the term comes from.
WE SHOULD START OUR OWN COOPS!!!
@@davidgafo agreed, comrade
You're one of the best socialist explainers I know, and usually, when trying to introduce a new friend to socialism, I start by sending them your videos. You're extremely patient and polite in the way you express your arguments, something that many leftists (including myself) struggle with.
You're great, keep going comrade!
Thank you so much! I’m glad my videos have been helpful
@@SecondThought YES. Your rational, simply worded explanations are what's been missing from the amazing work of Peter Joseph & TZM. I beleive the best system would be a resource based economy, and socialism is the only path towards RBE which doesn't require a massive disaster (or miracle of our masses instantly overcoming decades of programming) to get there.
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on RBE and Peter's work.
& thanks for making these videos and giving me some hope for the future!
@@deon9981 Money is currently a life necessity. Sometime in the future, hopefully it will not be. Doesn't hurt to be realistic my friend!
Yes just like Vladimir Lenin
@@SecondThought commie scum socialism does nothing good the only successful socialist state is china there called socialists but they don’t use any real socialist values so if you look at the Soviet Union or Cuba c.a.r Somalia east Germany Romania Venezuela
So no this is false
I am a senior Canadian retired teacher and farmer. When I was a teenager in the early 1970's, I was lucky enough to go on an exchange to Yugoslavia. It taught me lots. Not only were people there just as free as us Canadians, they were in many ways more free. I had worked in factories from the age of 14. I couldn't imagine electing your foreman.
That’s fascinating! Thanks for sharing
I acknowledge that there are some up sides to every political theory. fair enough. but the down side of socialism/communism is that the power structure always, not sometimes. gets centralized into usually one person. that person takes complete authoritarian control of the government. history shows this. that is not a theory or belief. it has happened every time.
@@bill6511 Has that happened in the Scandinavian countries?
@@martindonald7613 Scandinavians ain't socialist, they're social democrats, close to socialism but not enough
@@bill6511 Maybe the implementation of socialism may be different of what Karl Marx thought, maybe between the steps of revolution and establishment of communism are some thing we haven't considered, also some people will argue with you about centralization and how its actually good. Personaly, I belive i a decentral power structure
I have never been a "capitalist" - but I definitely had some capitalist programming and propaganda that stunted my thought process for many parts of my life. I've had a disability since high school, and my sister is also disabled, so I've always been an advocate for social support systems if for no other reason than wanting to make sure my sister and myself didn't have to put ourselves at risk to survive.
I discovered your channel this year, and am happy to say that it has helped me immensely with putting words to the disconnected thoughts I've had, and further pushed me away from trying to "make it work" the way it does now. I'm much more educated on Socialism and can do a better job of talking to others about why it's not a bad thing by remembering what you've discussed on this channel. I guess what I'm trying to say in way more words than probably necessary is: Thank you. Thank you for making this channel, for sharing your knowledge, and for encouraging myself and others to, if you'll pardon the pun, give Socialism a Second Thought. :)
And anti-ableism should also be applied in our world.
I too have a disability, it's not severe or anything it just effects how long I can walk or stand for. Capitalism doesn't provide support for people like ourselves which is one of the many reasons I turned to Socialism. I wish you well comrade and happy holidays.
@@mattolivier1835 The hypocrisy..
You calling a disabled person evil for beong a socialist makes you evil.
@@mattolivier1835 Enslave? So in Cuba before the civil war there was Slaves owned by white rich Americans, after the revolution the government freed them and actually educated them hence the incredibly high growth in literacy rates. In Chins before the civil war there was a ridiculous amount of people in serfdom but after the CCP took control the surf's were freed and actually educated just like Cuba. In the Russian empire the majority of people were also surfs and after years of murder and struggle they were freed after Lenin's revolution. It's stupid to say we are the slave owners after the hundreds of years the Capitalist powers of Europe sold slaves to the rest of the world. The founding fathers owned slaves, The United States was built off the back of slave owners. It's disgusting that you can look back on history and see the millions possibly billions who were freed from slavery under socialism and stand there and accuse us of being slave owners. Read the 13th amendment! Slaves exist in America TODAY!
Thank you so much for sharing, Sydney! I'm so glad my videos have been helpful to you. All the best ✊😁
The fact that so many people are seeing this is restoring my faith in humanity! Sometimes it gets depressing because selfish people yell really loud.
Yo I actually cited your video on means testing in an essay that I wrote on poverty in the United Staets, and I got a 95% on that essay! Thank you!
Shit I should start citing JT to get better grades in social studies or smth.
Same!.. sociology class haha
Ayyyy glad I could help!
@@SecondThought you are a socialist blessing to humanity, hope socialism spreads in the Philippines with your influence
@@SecondThought Please do something special for the 100th anniversary of the Soviet Union coming up soon!
I'm glad to see channels like this growing. As a scientist, I see humanity failing in one critical aspect almost constantly - the ability to simply learn from collective experience and to grow from it. What does this mean for society - it means that it would be very easy to observe and adopt the best aspects of the many economic/social systems we have already experimented with. Capitalism has worked in some areas, but it has already failed once in the early 1900s. We are going down the exact same path now that we did with Rockefeller, Carnegie, Vanderbilt, etc. Here in the US, we addressed these shortfalls in the 40/50s and as a result - flourished for decades. Ironically, the very people who yearn to return to the 50s are the ones voting for the people destroying the structure that enabled this prosperity (republicans).
Human Rights V I O L A T I O N S
1: You speak of trying to learn from collective experience, but so often people ignore the immigrants who come to America to escape socialism.
2: True, many robber barons such as Rockefeller were bad (he even funded research that cause cancer to peurto Ricans on purpose) however Carnegie had his "Gospel of Wealth" where he stated that the wealthy should give back to the community as much as possible
3: You say republicans want to go back to the simpler times of the fifties but what they're really after is some sense and sensibility in the unpractical times where, much like in the French revolution, the Progressive movement is taking people to a better place far to fast and early than man is ready for
@@RobertHouse-uk1vi I appreciate a well thought out conversation and you are clearly an intelligent person. I would however disagree with a couple of your points:
#1 Very few people flee the stable social-democratic countries. These have implemented socialism exceedingly well and people are far happier in these countries. Norway, Finland, Sweden, Bolivia, Belgium, etc are typical of this type of government. Autocratic, theocratic and corrupt republic governments are by far the greatest source of refugee/immigrants. Communism is not socialism though people seem to equate the two incorrectly. I'm not sure a true communist country has ever existed as they are generally autocratic when you really look at them (like N Korea).
#3 Rockefellers, Carnegies, etc and their promotion of prosperity doctrine/gospel of wealth is a very hypocritical philosophy. They generally only did philanthropic activities after accumulating "excess wealth" as they called it. This excess wealth was exploited from their workers, plain and simple. Most of these people started with a silver spoon in their mouths and then use prosperity doctrine ideas to make others feel like they have to get ahead with extra effort (the extra effort which makes the rich, richer). Many of their philanthropic efforts were nothing more than a veiled way to create more labor force for themselves.
#3 I totally agree with you here. Liberals/progressives have totally blown so many chances by picking the wrong "fights". For instance, forcing LGBTQ and diversity downs everyone's throat will simply backfire. They should simply work for a better future for EVERYONE and leave it at that. Also, I agree they have gone the path of being pretentious in trying to control how people talk/act with regards to many issues. I think much of that simply comes from everyone being distracted by social issues instead of addressing meaningful economic-political ones.
First allow me to begin by saying it makes me giddy to engage in such intellectual conversation for it is a change I am grateful for as I have so few outlets in my daily life. To my conservative family I am far too liberal and among my liberal friends I'm far too conservative. However I have always maintained that I'm an individualist above all else and I only put stock, not in what the majority holds to be true, but what I myself have proven to be so. I believe Darth Traya said it best. "To be willing to believe in an ideal is to be willing to betray it". I also consider myself to be a amateur Hegelian, so history is very important to me. Now on to business.
1:True, I will concede that in the states mentioned socialism has done well for itself and more importantly, the people. However, these states are small and, no disrespect to these countries, often in consequential to the world stage. Comparatively Venezuela is a relatively significant source of oil for the world. In larger states, where government has far more nooks and cranies, socialism fails to keep in control humanities greatest and never ending resource-- It's own fuckedupedness. Socialism relies too heavily on the ideal where as capitalism almost relies on you being you.
2: Yes, some robber barons were born with a silver spoon in their mouths however Rockefeller was born into a lower middle class household and the son of a door-to-door salesman who had a second family. Carnegie was a poor Scottish immigrant. So yes some- but not all. So many "rags to riches" stories come out of capitalism, and of course vice-versa, but that is the beauty of it all you can start again or for the first time and no matter how much you fail you can always try again later. In socialism, if you're not up to snuff, they either bail you out (in larger states this often comes to the detriment of others) or they hand your business off to someone else to see it through. I personally would like to officially fail rather than be treated like the infirm
And now as I conclude my rebuttals and reciprocations I must thank you again for this most civil of comunicai and I shall always cherish this fastidious fracas
@truthisfree7297
The gentleman (RobertHouse-uk1vi) didn't say they fled "social democratic countries." He said socialist countries. Those you list are *not* socialist countries. Particularly the Scandinavian countries. Fact is, they are market economies with a large welfare state. Means of production and distribution are almost all in private hands. Some of the policies these countries have adopted would make Bernie Sanders cringe. Several of these listed are actually *more* free-market than the United States.
The fact remains that socialism doesn't work. A century of reality has shown us this. The content creator invoked Albert Einstein in support of socialism, so I think Einstein can also be invoked against it: doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.
Still think I'm wrong? Name a country that abolished private property (even solely for economic purposes) and thrived? I'll wait....can't do it, because it doesn't exist.
There is a restaurant owner who decided to spilt his companies profits with his employees…they ended up making around 84 dollars a hour. All of them..equally. They said the work environment was incredible in so many different and surprising ways
That smells like bullshit to me. Restaurants have razor thin profit margins.
@@gilgamesh310 what if that is a lie to justify poor pay? It isn't the first time we've been lied to endlessly for poor pay
@@ZentaBon It isn't. There's a lot of costs involved, as they need to make sure customers come back. They'll hire expensive chefs and make sure they get the most expensive ingredients they can find to make the meals as satisfactory as possible. There are times when the owners make less than the employees.
This is the kind of naive but well meaning example of an ideal egalitarian workplace. Unless it’s a well known Michelin star restaurant, most restaurants are running on slim profit margins, with owners taking much of the financial risks.
Miss Shroom wrote, _"There is a restaurant owner who decided to spilt his companies profits with his employees…they ended up making around 84 dollars a hour."_
What is the name of this restaurant, please?
Someone tried to insult me once by calling me a socialist. My response: “Yeah, and?”
The irony. If I’m a Socialist, my philosophy means that I care what happens to you, too. If, however, you’re a Capitalist calling me a Socialist, it means your philosophy only has room for you. It’s like a bully calling someone a pacifist when the bully has never been beat up. What Capitalists don’t realize is that their model ALWAYS ends in conflict. And many pints in history have shown that doesn’t always irk out well for the bourgeoisie.
You have a nice idea, it works well enough for the family level, and some concepts do work well on the community level, but it has a critical breakdown on a governmental level that will only serve to make the lives of everyone outside of the government worse.
I implore people to stop trying to create the society depicted in the book utopia, the title means nowhere, as in it's not possible.
How about instead of upending the system you focus on fixing the problems with the existing system like: government overreach, cronyism, patent cartels, and corruption.
How about government stop focusing on whether people born with a penis can give birth, and focus on the real issues destroying the pursuit of life liberty and happiness.
Answer next time: Socialism or barbary!
@@codacreator6162 doesn't your model always end up in starvation or mass killing?
Ideology that has killed more people in the 20th century that religion in the entire history
I'd love to see you do a video addressing the successes and failures of various nominally socialist governments. You've hit some of that, like in your shock therapy video, but having a good video to point at when talking to people that aren't already socialist would be awesome.
We’ve got a podcast episode on the subject!
@@SecondThought please make a video about it, since it is the major counter point everytime socialism is brought up
I second that idea. Sweden has taken a swing to the right with the 2022 fall election. This is true for most of Europe. Sweden and Finland joining NATO didn't seem a possibility a year ago. There is a housing crisis for young adults most cities in Europe. In Stockholm one has to wait years to get rental housing, or be able to put a 20% downpayment on an apartment, make payments , on top of paying hefty maintenance fee.
@@SecondThought I'm looking for it, what was the title?
@@Low760 i think its called Ls of former socialism
Autistic person here. I had a job that I didn’t want from the end of October 2022 to the first half of September 2023. I was a cellphone salesperson, and I got fired for poor performance. This is partially because I didn’t want to sell things to people that didn’t want them. If someone didn’t want to switch to postpaid, even if it would potentially save them some money, I wouldn’t try to sell it to them. I would also avoid using the word “free” even if the advertising did, as customers would still have to pay taxes and pay for the phone service. But, this all around made it so I wasn’t selling as many phones and postpaid phone plans as the company I worked for (which I shall not name) wanted me to. So I ended up getting fired.
Now I’m trying to find a new job because everyone is saying I have to, and it sucks because there are just no good jobs out there.
I just want to make stuff. So why do I have to put up with people and companies that don’t care about me?
"What makes you depressed?
Seeing stupid people happy" - Slavoj Žižek.
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@VTV silence liberal
Keep projecting. also there are tons of alternatives to capitalism, better even
@ RamenBomberDeluxe I wasn’t referring to the quote I was referring to a previous comment
Great video. Could you make a , “I’m a new socialist; what should i do next?”, video? Like how do you find other people like you? How do you get involved? How to do pressure politicians into passing good legislation? How do you determine wether a certain legislation or decision was more socialist or not?
good idea
Unionize
Unionize your work place, read Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and Castro, join and Marxist-Leninist organization like CPUSA or PSL. (Stay away from anything with the name Trotsky associated with it lol)
@@chrislicameli CPUSA seems to just be an old man show, I want a real group with an active community that actually does shit to raise awareness and push in real reform.
The answer is quiet simple, rebellion :)
Brotha JT, in case I don’t comment before 2023 I want to tell you I’m wicked grateful for you, you’ve been a blessing and a ‘city on a hill’ for all 2022. Heres to a radical ‘23.
Thanks comrade, I always appreciate your comments 🙏
@@SecondThought All power to all people ✊ (except the owner class)
Never thought I would see an American channel like yours, there is hope for your society after all
Why? Most Americans are absolutely destroyed by capitalism. They're slowly waking up, even the dumbest.
But it's still America. America has a lot of dumb people. Loads!
Plenty of Americans that think like this, it’s just that they rarely get a platform like this. JT is even Texan (like me) and I’d say I agree with the majority of what he says
Idiotic uneducated on the issue populous thinks like that.
Born in the USSR , capitalism is not the problem. You, spoiled, degrading teenagers voting for more government(democrats) is the problem
So you wish to be OWNED by the government?
You want to live in a bleak shithole where everything is the same?
You want to be arrested/executed for different opinions?
If you actually think this then there is no hope, literally not learning from history and doing the same mistake again 😂😂
Complete socialist markets have failed again and again no matter what spin off form it comes. The only good suggestion from this video is the "baseline level of quality of life" but that is costly and needs to paid as taxation from capitalist market generated wealth, this is basically the nordic system(Sweden, Norway even Singapore)
Socialism: a better future for our kids
Capitalism: a better future for that rich guy’s kids
Not really
anarchy: the strong survive and set america the right way
As a citizen of Socialist Republic of Vietnam, a country which is in the transition period to socialism, I approve of this video 👍
you do realize that your country was communist in the 1970s and then it fell apart like it always does right now its capitalist because communism DOESNT WORK
I've heard how well Vietnam is doing, so well that the West wouldn't dare mention Vietnam because of it's major success with Socialism
@@Intergalactic2701 let me just check how the vietmanese dong is doing compared to dollars 1 Vietnamese dong equals
0.000042 United States Dollar
yeah they seem to be doing SOOOOO well bro
good for vietnam
@@benjamingray2071 our currency being low price benefits us from international trading, after all with this benefit we get more chances to compete with companies from other countries and get more money, so I don't think it's a problem
For the last year or 2, I had followed and watched this channel; the content is truly outstanding and I now grasp what are the core fundamentals of socialism. I fully support the idea of socialism because it is basic common sense to help the people. Keep up the great work, I am actually showing your videos to my friends and family, I hope the may be convinced to follow this ideology, cheers and hoping for more videos.
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 I also followed a different ideology before learning socialism to this degree, I was a neoliberalism and a believer of capitalism. Who thought if we just work hard and donate charity to people through philanthropy the world will be a better place I was wrong, capitalism is inherently a flawed system which will sacrifice the majority just for income.
@@thizloliboi7523I'm happy that you're interested in socialism. You should read Marx and other socialists to further your education. We first have to understand capitalism before transitioning to a different system.
@@ColorMatching I agree that we need to learn more before changing into a new system. in school we read the manifesto of Karl Marx and Leninism, at first, I thought they were too radical but they were framed in a different perspective.
This one is the worst one may be do better next time
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@@seniorbob2180 Spoken like an ignorant simpleton who has never read one page of any book written by any socialist, including Marx. Do yourself a favor and stick to topics on which you can speak accurately and honestly.
One of the many great things about JT's vids is that they're so damn "sendable." They're just about perfect as a thing to kindly but firmly counter the capitalist propaganda so many people, including my loved ones, have so thoroughly absorbed and swallowed. I'm going to send this to members of my family who are otherwise reasonable people, but still cling to the idea that capitalism is "just how the world is." This video and some of the others are *spot on* when it comes to flipping that nihilistic nonsense around on itself and showing that a real-world alternative is not only possible, but achievable, and infinitely better for us all than the current "way the world works."
I will be sending this to the (very few sadly) people I know. This vid is like... chef's-kiss-level good for that, Thanks, JT, seriously.
Socialism failed almost every time it was tried. Why would it work now?
I'm reminded of a song lyric.
"Just 'cause that's how it is don't mean that how it has to be, that's what the uninspired among you fail to see."
@@revan552 song name?
just sent to my father see what happens!
Was thinking the exact same thing!
As someone who has agreed with you my entire life and faced only hate, thank you. Thank you a million times!
I’ve never let the hate stop me though, I keep trying to spread the idea that its time for us to do better because we can do better
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Do you really receive hate? Or just different opinions? Because people have good reasons for believing socialism will not work in the United states.
@@carpo719 They mean actual hate most likely, because capitalists don't like it when poor people want their fair share. It only struggles in the US because the rich paid politicians to lie to the public for centuries, so the poor are either progressives desperate for something to hope for, or brainwashed morons who hate-watch lefty vids to troll.
@@carpo719 You live in the United States and you are going to question whether or not socialists receive hate? We are talking about the same United States here, aren't we?
@@carpo719 I've received enough hate that it is hard for me to be honest about my political views with even those close to me. My girlfriend and my ex wife constantly call/called me a liberal by which I always tell them I despise liberalism. I hide my political views in the workplace because I would have no job if it was well known. FB won't let me fart without banning me. I've lost many friends and family members due to my political views...and last but not least, if capitalism isn't working in America than how can you say socialism can't work in America. Socialism on a world scale can't happen because of the capitalist hegemony of America can't allow it to work.
This video has officially made me love this channel. I've come to similar conclusions on my own, and am absolutely depressed by this society. I hope I'm not old and dead before seeing change.
Me too! But videos like this give me hope.
not happening bud
@@kaceykelly7222 If you actually think this then there is no hope, literally not learning from history and doing the same mistake again 😂😂 Complete socialist markets have failed again and again no matter what spin off form it comes. The only good suggestion from this video is the "baseline level of quality of life" but that is costly and needs to paid as taxation from capitalist market generated wealth, this is basically the Nordic system(Sweden, Norway even Singapore)
@brandondoane332
When I was teaching at university, I had a dozen clowns like this guy in my classes. Clowns? Yes, each was fool enough to bring this garbage up, and present it as if socialism had never been tried. The real failure of socialism is that it's not based in reality. I made clowns of each one, by simply pointing out what socialism delivers as opposed to the promises of its advocates.
@Ewww1219
My apologies, but the Soviet Union, Mao's China, and modern Cuba and Venezuela ARE socialist examples, don't attempt to downplay it. Just because you've been told that "an elite" ran the "means of production" on behalf of "the people," makes it no less socialism than what the clown on this video proposes.
This is the reality of socialism. It always becomes a poverty-stricken corner of hades for the common people. I'm a retired history professor, don't try telling me socialism has never been tried. When I still taught at university, I occasionally made clowns out of individuals such as the fellow in the video.
Would be nice if you do a video (or better an entire series) covering former and current socialist states faults and how to solve them
This should be at the top
hakim has a video on this topic, and the deprogram podcast (including JT) also made an hour long podcast about it, if you’d like to check that out
uh yeah DONT BE COMMUNIST PROBLEM SOLVED
@@benjamingray2071 christ 💀
@@koko-rm7ew i would prefer TRIBALISM OVER COMMUNISM ATLEAST THEN I WOULD ACTUALLY FEEL EQUAL
It’s that rare time when YT recommended me something great. Thank you so much for your work❤
You're so unappreciated on the left. We owe you so much for making such well put together and informative videos.
Thank you for your kind words! I really appreciate it
Been watching your channel for probably 2 years now and I like how patient and knowledgeable you are in your critiques of the current capitalist hellscape. Even better you’re a fellow Texan! Keep up the good work comrade JT!
I’m interested if you have heard of the British company Waitrose & Partners? It’s who I currently work for and is one of the most successful supermarket chains in the country. The reason I mention this is because it is a democratically led company which is run and owned by the employees and I think is, almost, the perfect example of what you call for in the US.
How are the working conditions there?
@@wesleywagumba2806 really quite good tbh, at least compared to many other part-time shift jobs. 45min break whenever you want, free meal on break, you aren’t over worked etc.
@@wesleywagumba2806 really quite good tbh, at least compared to many other part-time shift jobs. 45min break whenever you want, free meal on break, you aren’t over worked etc.
i didn’t know that? that makes me slightly more optimistic for our country. didn’t john lewis outsource a bunch of jobs though, or are they run differently?
John Lewis Partnership, the parent company of Waitrose and Partners, is owned by a trust on behalf of employees, and employees receive bonuses. Such things, as well as companies being co-ops outright, are good for the workers employed there, but coops and employee ownership under capitalism aren't the same as socialism. Socialism goes far beyond that, expanding democratic control of the workplace to the entire working population, not just a single company, which can't really happen under capitalism, and it gives further and greater rights and power to workers than can even be achieved through companies structured like Waitrose and co-ops. Socialism also entirely eliminates things like the profit motive (so, for example, companies don't have to keep the salaries of employees aritificially low or export jobs abroad in order to "stay competitive", as even employee owned companies may be compelled to do under capitalism), and drastically restructures the relationship of the population to goods and services, as well as the way that they are produced. So, socialism is kind of similar to what you're talking about, but in reality it's also massively different, and what you're talking about is not a "perfect example" of what is being discussed the video, though it can definitely be a step in the right direction. I recommend looking up the videos "Problems with Co-ops" and "Are cooperatives sus?" by Hakim on TH-cam. They are great videos and go further into detail about this exact topic.
Imagine if the time travelling cow knew how far this channel would come. Solidarity forever comrade, and may your agitprop be forever radicalising! Watching with love since middle school and going into university now, gotta be one of the best content creators out there ❤️
Wow, you’re making me feel old 😅 Thanks for sticking around!
@@SecondThought 😘
Oh shit, that WAS JT huh. I forgot he did those videos. Now I feel old too
Remember when JT just made science videos but everyone knew he was a socialist? That was a good time.
Can't believe the Deprogram podcast is already a year old! Seems like yesterday that I was exited to hear the first episode!
Also I would add. Socialism guarantees NOT the abstract "opportunity" for all, which becomes a joke in reality if you compare the opportunities of a millionaire and his family with the opportunities of an average worker. But equal CONDITIONS to all, where everyone gets the same starting condition, such a place to live, the same high quality education and the same high quality health care.
Probably what is meant by "opportunity".
a universal BASIC outcome. It's not a ceiling, but a floor that no one can fall through.
@@Jackzay90 Equality of opportunity - meaning conditions provided for the next generation:
Equality of outcome - I am really hesitant to support this as that can go wrong in so many ways.
@@Divinity_vA Agree, getting rid of money is an essential part of building a socialist society. It also means getting rid of the markets as a whole, where the purpose of production is to serve the needs of people and not gain profit.
In china they wait in line just the same
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What you said about the workers knowing best how to do their jobs resonates with me. In my last job there were several procedures we had to follow from on high, that were so non-sensical to us on the ground level, that it was obvious whoever made that decision never worked a minute in our department.
Many capitalist seem to preach freedom and democracy, but dont want it in the workplace for some reason, it is puzzling.
Today in our capitalist world our workplaces are pretty much dictatorships
Top-down decisionmaking structures don't seem to be optimal for making the best decisions.🤔
a "Boss" is just a job where a person spends their time figuring out what the company/people need to do next. "manager" deals with the day to day "next" where as "boss" focuses on weeks months scale, and "owner"/"shareholder" focuses on year after year. its all the same job requiring all the same work. no reason a boss should get significantly more money than a manager. same with "owner" or "investor". and "manager" already doesnt get much more than "employee" so really there is no difference between these positions. they are all just JOBS.
humane economy would focus on the value of a Human Hour. the amount of work an average human can get done in an hour should be the standard reference for the value of any given product or service. humans that can get more than average work done in an hour deserve to get that difference in additional wage. robots that replace humans will reduce the human hours required to create a product or service, thereby reducing the CONSUMER PRICE of these things as well, which would reduce the amount of hours that humans actually need to spend working. and you can easily know the real value of any thing on the planet through a decentralized transparent international database of human work production standards. meaning labor slavery is eliminated.
that is kinda like a free market, its just a market where no one can get away with price gouging or under paying wages, because they would be easily held accountable through that transparency.
then the "socialist" side would just be the democracy choosing how much of a profit margin is Reasonable for any given industry (depending on how important it is for growing fast, or how much of a luxury bonus the democracy wants to allow entrepreneurs who start new businesses, and how much money needs to be generated to be turned in to "taxes" (which kind of become arbitrary) in order to grease the gears of things like Universal Basic Income or an expanded wellfare system that will ensure the complete end of homelessness and starvation and provide enough for people in need to get clothes and important stuff like cell phones and electricity.
this would also necessitate a more transparent record of monetary transportation (transactions between people of money changing hands. could even by blockchain if you wanted it to be.)
people will complain about the lack of privacy, BUT, this would make it EXTREMELY easy to defeat corruption in politics. every politician would have every dollar they received or spent be open public knowledge. and if you make the job only pay as much as normal jobs, then the people who do the job ACTUALLY want to DO the JOB and arent there to satisfy greed.
Democratic Socialist Resource focused HUMAN HOUR based economy.
the Humane economy.
added benefit is you could even eventually integrate aliens or ai with equal rights. you just give them the same value as human hours (or increase their value if they have shorter lives, but wouldnt decrease the value for having longer lives, since that would be immoral. but if they demonstrate an ability to work faster than average they get the same benefits as any humans who can work faster than average.
so it might be better to call it a human hour MINIMUM wage. :)
and finally you give one time bonuses to people who actually come up with new ideas / inventions / etc. directly from the government / from the society as a collective thankyou for improving human (and others) lives. no more copyrights and patents and licensing and dumb shit like that. rich people can still exist if they actually earned that wealth by improving society with ingenuity.
someone tell me where can this go wrong?
This channel radicalized me, and now I'm sending it to my friend to radicalize them. This channel is a comrade factory! Never stop JT.
This was definitely eye-opening... wow. Thank you for delivering us this information you are amazing.
I was just a kid when Nixon was in office. But I do remember my mom talking to our tv when Nixon was on there pushing his "Trickle Down" theory. She'd talk to the tv saying; "You fool (to Nixons talking head,) money doesn't trickle down. It trickles up!"
As someone from a country which has been greatly harmed by capitalism, colonialism, and imperialism, called Cyprus, I highly appreciate the work you are doing to popularize and educate the American, and generally anglophone, masses on socialism. I even learn stuff myself that I never knew before despite being a politically active communist for many years. Thank you for the great work you do and please never stop, comrade.
he's not communist; he's socialist big difference "comrade"
No one is stopping you socialist communists from starting your own commune in USA.
I give it less than a year and you socialist communists will have so much in fighting your commune will fail.
@@becc_snipe communism is alternatively known as scientific socialism. JT is very clearly influenced by scientific socialist and generally Marxist ideas and frameworks, even though he doesn't explicitly call himself a communist or Marxist. I consider anyone who does good work promoting scientific socialism, the interests of the working class, and helping organize the working class to fight against capitalist power a comrade, regardless of tendency or self identification or chosen ideology. So don't tell me who is or isn't my comrade, and take your factionalist anti communist bullshit elsewhere.
@@garymail4393 that's a compelling opinion, except capitalism both structurally and deliberately, as witnessed throughout history, would make such an idea impossible to materialize. In other words, yes, a worker commune existing by itself in a capitalist world will eventually fail, not only because of the vestiges of the capitalist order as well as deliberate sabotage by capitalists could create infighting, but because a commune cannot function well by capitalist market metrics (the two things are incompatible with each other), and thus it would be overwhelmed in a wholly capitalist world, and because capitalists will in all likelihood eventually resort to violently bringing down the worker commune if by some grace it manages to survive against every other disadvantage that will be thrown at it in such a scenario, as was the exact case when Otto von Bismarck crushed the Paris Commune after his 1870 invasion of France. The biggest reason this happened was because the Communards failed to pursue the retreating capitalist class beyond Paris, and connect with the rest of the French workers, thus establishing communes all over France. Thus, the very fact it was an isolated island of socialism in a thoroughly capitalist western Europe was what brought it down. Lenin and the Bolsheviks learned from this mistake, as after setting up a series of soviets (worker councils) in different areas of Russia, and repelling the initial onslaught of the capitalists, monarchists, and fascists, they chased them down until they were completely crushed or chased out of Russia, enabling the definitive establishment of soviet / commune power in Russia. Of course, this inability of socialism to survive in isolated pockets is not at all unique to itself; in the same exact way but for the opposite reasons, capitalism couldn't just exist in isolated pockets in a world of feudalism, which is exactly why Napoleon invaded all of Europe with the goal of overthrowing the old feudal order and spreading the newer capitalist order far and wide. And that's just one of many examples of capitalism overthrowing the old feudal order until it took over the entire world, because it could not simply exist in isolated pockets in a feudal world. And actually, it is precisely the domineering, global nature of capitalism which makes it impossible for socialism to exist in isolated pockets, whereas past economic systems could and did exist in isolated pockets at least until capitalism obliterated them. So yes, I agree, communes should absolutely be started in the US, but it shouldn't stop there; from there further economic and political power should be conquered until the now-old, world-domineering capitalist order is done away with in the entirety of the planet, to make way for the new communist order.
@@anonymouse7336 North Korea is Communist. Go live there for a year and then come back and tell me what you think. You will be back in less than one month.
You are the first person who deeply understands and shares my views to a detailed degree and the way you approached this video perfectly exemplifies what I believe as well. This video is what we need and you should expand your work because I truly think you can make a change.
Until someone points out what socialism has always delivered despite the promises of its advocates.
My book on this topic is almost finished! I did so much research for it and it is so obvious how many better options we have, as compared to the this cRapitalist system that has been pushed onto us.
Reality doesn't give a shake of a lamb's tail what you believe. The result of every single country that ever tried socialism FAILED. Their people experienced poverty, starvation, and oppression by this "benevolent" ideal.
This is partly because of the way socialism is implemented, by force. True, a majority may vote to implement socialism, but what about the minority that opposes it? Do you think they'll quietly go along with it when your new government takes away their businesses?
And, given the ineptitude of politicians, do you really think management elected by the workers will do any better than those hired professionals trained to fill that role? That's exactly what will eventually happen, the manager role will become a political campaign.
THAT'S reality, friends. Socialism doesn't work.
The REAL socialism is a monster. It is an artificial kind of thinking. All -- absolutely ALL -- is false. Responsibility? Nothing. No one is responsible for anything.
Salvador Alliende was democratically elected in Chile, and with his socialism Chile's economy was better than ever before.
Until the CIA caught a whiff of the slightest socialist success and overturned the government. Same happened with the USSR, though more than 80% of the people living there voted against its dissolution.
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The Allende administration's "gains" in the economy were almost all due to the first year of the administration, 1970-71. Inflation in the second and third years started to erode those gains in economic growth for the people at large.
In time, the reality of the way socialism does its business would have unquestionably undone the socialist "reforms." This is almost always the way it happens in socialist countries, for awhile, things get better for the working classes, at the expense of the "upper class." This is because the transfer of wealth and "means of production" occurs early in the transition to a socialist government, and the improvement of the quality of life of the formerly poor people causes everyone to think, "success@ it's working!" until the reality sets in: there's only so much wealth to transfer, only so much that can be improved before the piper must be paid, the wealth reserve dries up, and foreign investors take their business elsewhere. This is what happened in Cuba in the early 1960's, the USSR in the late 1910's and early 20's, and Venezuela in the turn of the century. Everything got better for the "proletariat" in the early going, but as the money supply dried up in REAL terms, hard-headed decisions had to be made and the new leadership desperately sought ways to keep the unmanageable situation from going downhill too fast.
Capitalism may have flaws, but it's much better for all concerned than socialism ever was. Free markets allow for individual freedom that socialist countries cannot afford to permit and decry.
As they always say: if socialism is utopian, capitalism is dystopian and I'd opt to choose utopian anytime. The fight for a better life is never a bad thing.
You know life isn't black or white? Usually socialdemocracy or liberal socialism it's the best ideology by looking at how it's succesfull and how much it helps the people (For example the nordic coutries) while socialism causes economic disasters, famines and a totalitarian regime (Soviet Union and China)
This is a nice quote!
they also say
if your young and dont like socialism, you dont have a heart
and if your old and dont like capitalism, you dont have a brain
"if socialism is utopian, capitalism is dystopian"
Basing your whole worldview on a logical fallacy is not a very smart thing to do, even for a socialist.
@@Divinity_vA "Literally no one says that"
I've no idea what kind of community you live in, but every discussion of socialism both IRL and online is _packed_ with people arguing exactly that.
Thank you for creating this video. As i write this, your statements, facts and general optimism on how humanity should be and where it needs to go, has literally brought me to tears. Thank you for everything you do.
For sure the transition from Capitalism to Socialism is inevitable but I feel like it might take much longer than many people hope.
Well, I hope that the governments will stay democratic, as socialism can only produce democratic governments when a monarchy is present, as socialist republics are usually corrupt and authoritarian.
I believe capitalists only allow “democracy” because it suits their agenda. We only have the illusion of choice anyway. I really believe that if their way of life was undermined or threatened in any way then we would quickly become a police state under authoritarianism. They are the real rulers of our society.
Yeah that’s unfortunate, feudalism did eventually concede to capitalism (although the capitalists were able to easily appeal to those in power at the time and turn them into capitalists).
It may take centuries, but eventually I think the general population will realize the way forward for humanity.
yeah probably not in our lifetimes but all we can do is our best
Socialsim had over 100 years to prove itself, and it failed every time. USSR, China, N. Korea, Cuba, Vvenezuela, etc. Not one socialist country was ever successful. Why do people keep hanging on? It is a religion with a false god.
I managed to convince my grandfather of the necessity of socialism with a combination of your videos and Dr. Richard Wolff. My grandmother was a former black Panther is also on board. Now I just gotta convince the other side of my family who are MAGA chuds. Dark Souls type boss battle.
@dumedume269 yeah that sounds like my moms side of the family, they mean well but are chuds nonetheless.
Lol good luck! MAGA 2024!
Socialism failed (almost) every time it was tried.
The idea aint bad, but it requires a world where corruption doesnt exist.
@@BigfootUnibrowMan idk if he’s going to win the next election Imma be real.
@Ian Reynolds He will. If he doesn't, it is because DeSantis beat him in the primary(not likely). The Dems have 0 serious contenders at this point.
JT, I was a budding leftist who became disillusioned with capitalism a few years ago. Last year I discovered your channel/ podcast, and affirmed my feelings. Thanks.
Also Yugopnik is 100% based, and he is my favorite Balkanoid.
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There is a saying in China, 摸着石头过河, that translates to “cross the river by feeling the stones”. It is generally attributed to Deng Xiaoping, who used it as a metaphor to describe China’s approach towards the reform and opening (改革开放）which kicked off at the end of the 1970s.
@@xunqianbaidu6917 It sounds more like something said by Confuses. Just another saying to justify a return to capitalism by the CCP.
@@xunqianbaidu6917 America was once a colony of the British Imperialists. It went on to become the leading Imperialist power. Is that what you want for China? China under the CCP has its first foreign military base in Sri Lanka and now has an aircraft carrier. Meanwhile Britian is facing a major economic crisis. The American capitalist are unhappy about how China has become an economic power in the world market. Mean while a true socialist revolution continues to make history only 90 miles from the US in Cuba. Mao and Stalin never really understood Marx or Lenin. Instead they and their followers treated their books like religious documents. In Cuba they did not go down the road of forced collectivization or doing things bureaucratically. They talk and discuss things among their people instead of issuing orders and then making mistakes until they approach a disaster. Fidel admits they made errors but they never did the kind of things Stain did. Stalin murdered all of the original politburo except Lenin and himself who died of natural causes. One of the first defeats was the 1928 Chinese revolution which Trotsky wrote about along with Harold Isaacs although Isaacs went over to the Imperialist later on and rewrote his book.
@@xunqianbaidu6917 What do you mean no democracy in Cuba? They elect their parliament of peoples power. They just finished discussing and voting on their new family code.
@@xunqianbaidu6917 499. Memorandum From the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs (Mallory) to the Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs (Rubottom)1
Washington, April 6, 1960.
SUBJECT
The Decline and Fall of Castro
Salient considerations respecting the life of the present Government of Cuba are:
1.
The majority of Cubans support Castro (the lowest estimate I have seen is 50 percent).
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There is no effective political opposition.
3.
Fidel Castro and other members of the Cuban Government espouse or condone communist influence.
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Communist influence is pervading the Government and the body politic at an amazingly fast rate.
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Militant opposition to Castro from without Cuba would only serve his and the communist cause.
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The only foreseeable means of alienating internal support is through disenchantment and disaffection based on economic dissatisfaction and hardship.
If the above are accepted or cannot be successfully countered, it follows that every possible means should be undertaken promptly to weaken the economic life of Cuba. If such a policy is adopted, it should be the result of a positive decision which would call forth a line of action which, while as adroit and inconspicuous as possible, makes the greatest inroads in denying money and supplies to Cuba, to decrease monetary and real wages, to bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government.
The principal item in our economic quiver would be flexible authority in the sugar legislation. This needs to be sought urgently. All other avenues should likewise be explored. But first, a decision is [Page 886]necessary as to the line of our conduct. Would you wish to have such a proposal prepared for the Secretary?2
@@xunqianbaidu6917 Cuba has no private property unlike China. We see how the white shirt police in China beat people who protest bank theft. We hear how China workers go on strike. The latest was a strike against Foxcom mfg for apple on the mainland owned by bosses from Taiwan. So the workers must fight capitalist in China.
You've sold me on it. I was on the fence on socialism before, but now I'm completely on board. You're very good at explaining things and very persuasive. You're making a difference with your propaganda.
Keep up the good work.
"you're making a difference with your PROPAGANDA." in a positive context. you can't make this sheet up man
So, you're effectively thanking someone for providing you with propaganda.
@@lochnessmunster1189lol so explaining a position in a calm and factual manner is now propaganda.
@@No-cg9kj So, if something is presented in a calm way, it cannot be propaganda?
As for "factual", when has Socialism actually proved to be better for the ordinary people, when compared to similar non-Socialist countries?
@@RaduP3 There is no such thing as unbiased media. JT consistently states this and admits his videos are socialist propaganda. You obviously have a misunderstanding of what propaganda is in the first place. Also, everything you believe about the world is also propaganda… the difference is who it serves.
I want to believe that capitalism will end in this century. It has been 10 years since I became a communist, and I see that there are more and more fellow travelers every day. There are many young people among them, from completely different countries and completely different nationalities. We are all people connected by one great progressive common idea - the abolition of wage slavery and the socialization of the means of production. We are able to make our planet a garden, resolve conflicts, start exploring space, reduce the working day and free up time for creativity and learning. We have huge opportunities in front of us, but now we are simply built into a system where the most important thing is profit and its endless increase, regardless of the consequences. Capitalism has led our planet to a global systemic crisis and to those problems that can no longer be resolved within the framework of this system. Its time is up.
what if you've already convinced me in 2022
What if he convinced us in 2021
Spread the video to your pals then
@@ИаковПавленко already did that
That's how we'll win in this game. Through sharing
Hi all! I'm from Russia. I am writing through a translator, I apologize for the possible inaccuracy. I am very glad that in the USA the ideas of socialism are not prohibited by the topic. In Russia, this topic is not popular now, my country is in a deep "reaction" (stages of counter-revolution). In our country, the ideas of socialism seem rather marginal, although socialist ideas gradually, year by year, became more popular. I do not know if there are translations of Lenin's works in your country, but I am sure that you need to familiarize yourself with them. He wrote not only about socialism in Russia, but also about common problems and tasks. Communism is inevitable, like the sunrise, it depends only on us whether it will begin in 3 years, 30 years or 300. Communism is the spring of mankind, but the path to it can take a very long time.
Lenin's works are amazing but I think he was too optimistic about the future. Unfortunately, there is the danger of slipping into fascism and climate change limits our time to achieve socialism and to save the earth. I hope it didn't sound too negative :(
Будь сильным, друг. Как говорят здесь, в США, "будет хуже, прежде чем станет лучше"
Yes, Lenin's works are available. Support for socialism has rapidly gained support here in the past decade. Stagnation of wages and massive wealth inequality has disillusioned many. Whether on the right or the left, the vast majority of people agree our current system isn't working for the average person. The failure of the USSR and the emergence of authoritarian rulers in socialist/communist countries made people discount socialism as a viable alternative. Now many people are reconsidering its feasibility.
Socialism is having a massive resurgence in the US, about 40% of Americans are socialists. Out of those socialists, 70% are anarchists.
The propaganda that we were taught was: capitalism=freedom, socialism=authoritarianism. But now we see Putin's Russia, which is a capitalist state, sending people to prison for many years for making verbal utterances, and forcing young people to fight in an imperialist war, which seems to disprove this dichotomy that we had been taught, that capitalism=freedom and socialism=authoritarianism.
I would rather pet my dog than eat my dog so socialism is out of the question.
Well argued and eloquent, more people need to see this
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I'm sharing this. I was a Libertarian candidate for Congress in 2016 (look it up if you don't believe me)
We should all share this honest, well argued video.
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@@kerryhicks1708 thank you for considering what's being said and being open minded. We need more honest candidates like yourself. I am still afraid to vote third party because of the whole issue with "giving" votes to the other side, but I'd seriously love to vote for my actual beliefs. Help make ranked voting a thing so I can 😊
Found this via TikTok! Glad I did. Should be required viewing for all.
The segment about working retail and that the workers know what needs to be done better than the managers is an incredible point. I talk about this with my coworkers all the time and I think this framing would be a great way to resonate with them.
that’s the best part about those guys videos. It’s like there’s at least one quote in here for anyone to connect to
I lean to the right, and at first read your topic and wanted to swipe past it. I appreciate your explanation and it broadened my perspective. 😊 Thank you
Hello JT
Just wanted to let you know that your channel was the catalyst for my conversion from a social democrat to a socialist. Just wanted to let you know that you’re reaching people. Keep up the good work and thank you.
Thank you so much! I’m glad to hear it
just curious...i'm a socialist. and i'm wondering how are the social democrats different? are they just really kind of slightly more progressive.than the democrats? but not quite socialists? or what exactly? thanks.
@@liz-sy2lj Social democrats are essentially liberals who believe in a welfare state within a capitalist system. The 'band-aid solution', if you will, since most of these welfare protections will be stripped away over time via lobbying from capitalist interests.
I actually went through the exact same thing
@@liz-sy2lj generally, social democrats still support capitalism, just with welfare, while socialists believe in overthrowing capitalism entirely. Social democrats are more left wing than the average liberal but their goals aren’t the same as ours.
Still not a socialist, but I try to give it a fair chance. Always happy to see someone argue for something they’re genuinely passionate about. We may not agree, but the end goal is the same; we both want to remedy societal issues. Keep up the good work.
Same here. I'm a child of the end of the Cold War, so no one can convince me socialism is anything but a disaster. Democratic socialism is an oxymoron. If you want the state to won the means of production, how can you allow change of govt? The anti-socialist party would sell it off!
Worker coops are the only way to achieve an actual democracy.
U are right... Im not a socialist nor communist, I am a capitalist, but giving socialism a chance to prove itself is good, but for me is not the right time since humanity still pretty sucks and not even some kind of heaven people want it to be... Life is not fair, do not try to make it fair by a politic change, make it by themselves
@@subscriptionmailsbox563 same
Well I lived under socialism and it was terrible
Example when I had my appendix burst I had to get it removed without pain killers on a metal table
Excuse me English I am from Venezuela
A college professor once noted that the bulk of his class were socialists. He asked if they’d like to vote a socialist system into the class where everyone would be treated equally, there would be no more good students or bad students, the classroom would work together and receive the shared grade rather than individual grades.
Naturally the vote to implement the system passed with flying colors.
It started out great. On the first test the class grade was an A. Everyone cheered and couldn’t believe it.
After class a few of the student got together and were talking about the new system. One student proclaimed he didn’t even have to try on the test, he knew he’d still get an A. The other students pondered on this and came to the same conclusion.
On the second test the class grade fell to a B. Not bad. However, a different group of student met up this time. They were frustrated because they had stayed up and studied for several hours. They were sure they got most of the answers right. They felt like they deserved better than a B for the work they had put in. Well, this was the last time they’d put on that much effort while others weren’t pulling their weight.
The this test came, and the class grade fell down to a C. The professor told the class that some people had done poorly on the test, but over half of the students were trying hard. He made an offer to the class, by a majority vote he would remove the students who had done poorly from the class he also added that they the act would stay in place and any future under performed would be removed automatically as a deterrent from it happening again. Being removed meant an automatic failure for the semester, and being forced to retake the class again later. The students agreed to remove the poor performs, and so the professor did so. He also removed their results from the class grade, bringing it back up to an A again. The remaining students were happy about this.
Along came the fourth test, and the students noticed there were more questions than usual and were harder to answer. One student asked why this was. The professor proclaimed that the same amount of work was still required to complete the tests. Now, with less students, they would need to work harder to achieve the goal.
As time went on more students would fall behind and be removed.
By the end of the class, the professor congratulated the few remaining students on passing the class with a final grade of a C. He also wanted to let them know that their class had the highest failure rate and lowest average scoring class he had ever had. More students would have passed the class with higher grades than if they’d had ever adopted the class grade. All the choices were theirs to make, and this is what they sow.
Nice try to imply a blatant myth about the idea of socialism.
But really you just explained how capitalism works.
Take your time and learn how the distribution of wealth/power and exploitation of labor/resources works in a capitalist economy. Thanks
When did this happen
Realistic socialism
I truly appreciate the things I have learned since finding your channel. I've recently become a listener of The Deprogram. I say that to just say how much I appreciate the work your channel puts forth to change the world the better. Sincerely, thanks JT!
This video is a huge reminder of why I'm so pissed off by the current situation. Getting this feeling made me stumble on one of your videos and the few months since then have been an amazing learning experience, the Pod has also been a great help so I truly appreciate you and both Hakim and Yugopnik for that. Keep up the good work comrades 👊🏾
a "Boss" is just a job where a person spends their time figuring out what the company/people need to do next. "manager" deals with the day to day "next" where as "boss" focuses on weeks months scale, and "owner"/"shareholder" focuses on year after year. its all the same job requiring all the same work. no reason a boss should get significantly more money than a manager. same with "owner" or "investor". and "manager" already doesnt get much more than "employee" so really there is no difference between these positions. they are all just JOBS.
humane economy would focus on the value of a Human Hour. the amount of work an average human can get done in an hour should be the standard reference for the value of any given product or service. humans that can get more than average work done in an hour deserve to get that difference in additional wage. robots that replace humans will reduce the human hours required to create a product or service, thereby reducing the CONSUMER PRICE of these things as well, which would reduce the amount of hours that humans actually need to spend working. and you can easily know the real value of any thing on the planet through a decentralized transparent international database of human work production standards. meaning labor slavery is eliminated.
that is kinda like a free market, its just a market where no one can get away with price gouging or under paying wages, because they would be easily held accountable through that transparency.
then the "socialist" side would just be the democracy choosing how much of a profit margin is Reasonable for any given industry (depending on how important it is for growing fast, or how much of a luxury bonus the democracy wants to allow entrepreneurs who start new businesses, and how much money needs to be generated to be turned in to "taxes" (which kind of become arbitrary) in order to grease the gears of things like Universal Basic Income or an expanded wellfare system that will ensure the complete end of homelessness and starvation and provide enough for people in need to get clothes and important stuff like cell phones and electricity.
this would also necessitate a more transparent record of monetary transportation (transactions between people of money changing hands. could even by blockchain if you wanted it to be.)
people will complain about the lack of privacy, BUT, this would make it EXTREMELY easy to defeat corruption in politics. every politician would have every dollar they received or spent be open public knowledge. and if you make the job only pay as much as normal jobs, then the people who do the job ACTUALLY want to DO the JOB and arent there to satisfy greed.
Democratic Socialist Resource focused HUMAN HOUR based economy.
the Humane economy.
added benefit is you could even eventually integrate aliens or ai with equal rights. you just give them the same value as human hours (or increase their value if they have shorter lives, but wouldnt decrease the value for having longer lives, since that would be immoral. but if they demonstrate an ability to work faster than average they get the same benefits as any humans who can work faster than average.
so it might be better to call it a human hour MINIMUM wage. :)
and finally you give one time bonuses to people who actually come up with new ideas / inventions / etc. directly from the government / from the society as a collective thankyou for improving human (and others) lives. no more copyrights and patents and licensing and dumb shit like that. rich people can still exist if they actually earned that wealth by improving society with ingenuity.
someone tell me where can this go wrong?
@@youtubesucks1499 bullshit. why does an artist paint? for money? give it a break. that propaganda is played out 50 years ago.
Scientists became scientists because it was interesting to them. people build shit because they like the process. the incentive for people to do more than sit on their ass is as simple as having more money to do fun stuff with. that amount doesnt have to be BILLIONS to be relevant.
if a resource based system ensured the laziest people at least had healthcare, a roof over their head, clothes on their back, plenty of food and access to transportation, the only thing they could do for entertainment would be vegetate. and sure for a small % that would be all they did. but the vast majority of people in that situation would feel comfortable in their existence and want to explore LIFE which would require more than a food stamps card.
THAT is where the incentive to do ANY work would naturally come from. they would get some reasonable compensation for their work that ensured they would have ample opportunity to explore life, travel the world, own a boat to learn how to waterski, eat in nice restaurants once or twice a week, take a cruise once or twice a year, etc etc.
the gap between couch potato and middle class experience isnt even in the same spectrum as the gap between homeless and couch potato.
not to mention ALL the relevant evidence in favor of the couch potato theory is under a system where the people were already forced to suffer and become homeless under capitalism before they became couch potatos.
in controlled experiments its been shown over and over again that the majority of homeless people who are helped back on their feet with a place to live and plenty of food and clothes and privacy become successful at a job and happy with life.
the wonderful thing about democracy is that when the majority of people understand how shitty it is to be oppressed and abused, they actually WANT to change the system and give people health and freedom and safety.
under a democratically controlled economy the people would agree as a majority on what experience level would be considered middle class, and they would strive to give everyone that experience, then they would decide what is a reasonable level of experience would constitute being "Rich" that someone should earn through great deeds (like creating a massive successful USEFUL business). then they would decide what human level of existence the lowest people should ever be treated (might need to come to terms with how they treat prisoners as well). finally they would fit the economic model to meet those 3 octaves of requires experience.
hypothetically lets say they decided the bottom most class of couch potato deserved to live in a tiny studio apartment and have a reasonable food stipend and a reasonable expense stipend (for clothes, cellphone bills, etc)
then cities would tell the government how much the rent in those places will cost, government can now set the standard for "minimum cost of living DECENTLY"
from there you can easily find a middle class suburban home ownership salary. and finally multiply that but a big number to define the highest class limit. lets say 10. its plenty ridiculous to have enough money to live TEN middle class experiences all by yourself.
in the USA a middle class family is utilizing about $140k per year. ten times that, 1.4 million dollars per year, thats about the average salary of a pro sports player. they are easily considered Rich and have more than enough money to spend on stupid shit like Yachts and tigers in their back yard and spending 3 months in Cancun if they want.
no one NEEDS more than that.
so anyone who would find a loophole to break that system would have an increasingly higher tax rate to curb it. not 100%, but if the lets call it a round 2 million per year person had a 50% tax rate, then you would form a curve that pushes an additional 10% on the additional earnings, for every 5 x above that number a person manages to make (through crazy investments for example) tapering for leniency toward the top, getting closer and closer to 100% tax but never quite reaching it.
heres an example of that curve:
if you made that 2 million you pay 1 million in taxes, you take home 1 million.
if you made 10 million annually you would pay 60% of the amount over 2 million. (net takehome 1 million + 3.2 million. 4.3 total)
if you made 20 it would be 70% (takehome 6.4 total)
if you made 40 it would be 80%
(takehome 8.6 total
if you made 100 it would be 90% (takehome 10.8 total)
if you made 1000 (1 billion dollars annual income!) it would be 98.5% tax rate (takehome 16 million total)
if you made 10 billion annual it would be 99.8% tax rate. takehome 21 million total
you can see how you still have incentive to make more if you really want more.
the differences after 30 years of this salary are significant:
1 million annual takehome = 30 million after 30 years.
4.3 takehome = 129 million after 30 years
6.4 takehome = 192 mil
8.6 = 258
10.8 = 324
16 = 480
21 = 630
you could still even approach billionaire as an individual. but 99% of all that wealth you created would be used to improve the lives of everyone else on this planet, instead of just floating around in the stockmarket gambling den for the rest of eternity.
democratic socialist resource oriented human-hour based economy is an inevitability. humans are slow to grow but even the ancient greek knew capitalism and democracy would one day be the norm, it just took 2500 years to get there.
@@youtubesucks1499 as for this particular question you asked:
"So why would anyone risk their life savings to open a business under socialism?"
the answer is they wouldnt. because under socialism you would first apply to have your business idea approved, and then if it was approved you would be given all the money you need to create the business.
under socialism businesses do not need to be started by personal wealth. they are started with subsidized loans.
and everything you talked about as far as why you think you deserve so much more money for an hour of your life than a person who you employee, all i can say is you are quite selfish. you list a bunch of different things, but all those things in SUMMARY are "I spent this many hours of my life doing this list of shit." which is exactly what everyone else does too. congrats. you just proved exactly how humans are being treated unequally, by fabricating value to your actions and undervaluing the actions of others, despite them LITERALLY OBJECTIVELY only taking HUMAN HOURS.
your hours are not worth more than mine. your life is not worth more than mine. you are not special. you do not DESERVE more just because your hours were spent in this way instead of cleaning toilets or teaching children. you are inherently subconsciously biologically programmed to be selfish, and you choose not to use your willpower to ascend beyond that basic primal behavior.
your entire list is summarized thusly: ME ME ME ME ME !
@@youtubesucks1499 and i dont think its relevant but ive actually started 2 businesses. sold them both when i got bored of putting my time in to them, when i felt the payoff wasnt worth the hassle. which was IDENTICAL to the feeling that caused me to quit every normal job i ever had as well. identical because they are the same.
they took hours of my life. hours which i felt needed to be compensated for. that compensation was money when i was young, but shifted into Quality of Life as i got older, money doesnt buy quality of life if you have to consume your life to get that money. in other words, you need TIME in order to enjoy what you ALREADY earned, unless the Time you are getting paid for is itself enjoyable.
I enjoyed architecture, the actual process, not the running the business part. the process was much harder than the business management part. MUCH harder. but far more fulfilling, and paid less. which is stupid. it just took me a long time to realize how stupid it was.
i expect most people still havent figured it out yet.
@@youtubesucks1499 LMAO thank you for so handily proving me correct BECAUSE 99% OF ALL INOVATION THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED ON THIS PLANET has happened at those very reasonable incomes levels LMFAO
the extreme majority of innovation has been manifested in to this reality by people with regular ass incomes in positions where they are never expecting to become billionaires. the majority of scientific advancement has come from ACCIDENTAL discoveries being performed by people making NORMAL salaries.
99% of all the effort that has built this planet has come from poor people.
your entire argument is propaganda you heard when you were a child and you never bothered to be capable of more than simply believing what you are told.
you are DEFINATELY proving that one hour of your life is absolutely NOT worth more than mine or anyone elses. i dont care what kind of paperwork you do that you think is so special. you are full up to ears in your own self absorbed bullshit.
the guy who picks up the trash is more worthy of a million dollars than you are.
and by the way lets hear about your income level, GO AHEAD AND POINT TO YOUR INCOME LEVEL IN THAT CURVE I LAID OUT. are you making 10 million annually? NOPE. so you arent even being charged more than normal taxes under the system i laid out, YOU ARE BITCHING ABOUT NOTHING because you cant even get your 3 braincells to work together to comprehend ACTUAL REALITY that you ACTUALLY LIVE IN mr not even fuckin close to a billionaire complaining about shit that will never effect you.
you are exactly the kind of selfish insignificant human waste that causes this species to be so stagnant. you are a selfish absorber of shit, doing so simply to make sure other people dont have it. thats how you fulfill your ego.
by all means tell me about all the shit youve managed to do with your money earned over the life of these business, OTHER than putting it in the stockmarket casino to sit there for eternity, or turning it in to some other business just to take that money and put it in the stock market.
you do nothing with your life but play a game chasing an infinitely growing dollar amount.
AND FORTUNATELY my system even makes a special place for people like you too! its the ACTUAL "Incentive" program under socialism: its paying people absurd amount of money to do jobs that normal people DONT WANT TO DO.
in my world you would strive for the job that paid the highest amount of money per hour of your life possible, that would probably be scraping shit off the sides of the sewer walls LMAO. and some very happy business owner making 10 million a year, taking home 4 million would be enjoying his time on a yacht while you sit around scraping shit off the walls just to make one dollar more than he does.
ego.
I used to watch Sargon and a few others around the "TH-cam Atheism" time. I kept watching them not thinking too hard and started to fall down the Alt-Right rabbit hole without realizing it. After my father passed I started to focus on more liberal and socialist ideas and messages. Even before then I was already checking out of Conservatism. Jan 6th was a real tipping point that made me open my eyes but honestly I should've known better sooner. My life was filled with depression (Thanks US Army) and it was easier to just go with the flow and not think about how to vote. I started to watch Adam Something and NotJustBikes which they were the catalyst for deprogramming myself, They really helped me understand why I was so Disillusioned the the US and Specifically my state Texas. Now I'm watching your content and been enjoying it.
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Good sheep
@@MK_ULTRA420 Thanks
Under Socialism ...
*The focus of the economy turns to the needs of the people, not exploitation by the few.
*The welfare state could provide universal necessities (food, clothing, shelter, medicine, pension, insurance) and a return to dignity.
*The people could focus on their passions rather than 2 FT jobs just to pay the bills.
*Work could have purpose, provide some happiness, 4-5 hours a day.
*The elected leaders, rather than assigned, could probably halt the rise of eventual dictators with boots on the throat of an unarmed, starving population.
I am very impressed with JT. We are definitely on the same page. I am almost convinced.
If a socialist or communist state gives the government so much control over our lives to provide for needs while safeguarding us against exploitation by landowners/factory owners,
What safeguards us against powerful bureaucrats and the seemingly eventual stagnation of socialist government services?
What would protect us from a far-fetched government narrative in which they need all citizenry to comply or else ... “No soup for you!?”
JT, your answers are much appreciated.
I am Japanese......A typical Japanese would be a socialist or communist by Western standards. Free market capitalism is not the most efficient solution nor the cure of every problem. Regulations are there to protect the small guys. .....Wish You All a Happy 2023.
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With the point on climate change, I'm an environmental scientist and socialist solutions always pop up, it is our best way forward and it is the capitalists that is stopping our best efforts to mitigate climate change. Scientific research doesnt happen UNLESS ITS PROFITABLE and thats wrong on every level, there is so much we can do and thats why I do also believe that socialism is the only way forward.
Under capitalism not only does research only get done if it’s profitable, it also gets done as long as it reinforces capitalist ideals and/or reinforces that any other economy can’t work
And you know what's the funniest?
Tech billionaires who are "so cool at moving progress" can, at any moment, invest in Titan.
Srsly. Organise and build more lethal hi-tech luxury scam.
Demanded series:
Space Titan
Titan robotics
Titan mansions
Hotel la Titan
Titan military tech
Titan delicacies
Titan Rapture-city
Titan nuclear haven
Sexual Titan
Titan more...
IMHO, Titan incident is underrated.
Imagine how few can be done with labor unions, which are easy to track and dispatch.
Imagine how few can be done with totally commercialized human rights and SJW movements, while any reaction on them sells with merch, and the problems, if any, are kept the same to keep the profit
And how much can be done when luxury consumption doesn't work, kills the user, and only the technocrat class can tell.
Love the visuals in this episode comrade, very approachable from a wider audience and generally pleasing whilst they still actually help in illustrating points. Production quality just keeps on growing!
Wishing you and the lads at the deprogram a happy holidays/ merry christmas and a happy new year!
Thanks very much!
"£15,000 PER SECOND" Let that sink in. Some people make that in a year.
Love it JT! I have been a proponent of socialism for 10+ years and the one thing I think we are missing is this: I’ve sadly came to realize during the pandemic that Americans just don’t give a crap about each other. I have a lot of republicans friends and it seems they will take a lower standard of living if there is some group “below” them that they can blame, abuse, and exploit. They think that equal rights equal less rights for themselves. That’s the conversation we need to have.
Take heart, there are as many decent and open-minded people as there are selfish boobs, it’s just that the latter are louder and make more of a spectacle of themselves. But yes, these folks will be our biggest obstacle for wanting to make the world a better place, but we can’t force them to see the light, we can only win by example (and a strong defense.)
Yea it’s just really disappointing seeing so many people that didn’t give a shit about the 1 million Americans that died. They called workers heroes during the pandemic yet will not give them hazard pay or even minimum wage.
Hi JT, thanks for the informative videos. I'm also binging the Deprogram right now, you guys have the most wholesome podcast I swear to god. I really hope that a socialist wave hits the US, and the West in general. Solidarity with the working class of the world from a Chinese person💪💪💪
i carry the torch of a generation of true american hearts of freedom and liberty from my blood i tell you your "wave" can go right back to where it came from HELL
@@benjamingray2071 It's not my wave, it's the American wave. Communists have existed in a large number in the US before, and they were true patriots in the sense that they cared about the lives of the common man and woman. Socialism is making a comeback in the US and it's coming back strong.
@@lolalee6256 they arent patriots they are traitors
@@benjamingray2071 They're much more patriotic than you by the looks of it.
@@lolalee6256 they wish to take everything that makes america what it is FREEDOM AND LIBERTY and take it from us so no they are far less patriotic than me
Merry Christmas, comrade.
I remember watching a few videos of yours back when you were a liberal. I really like the new direction you have gone and I love that you are doing a podcast with hakim. Welcome to the fold, conrad
I agree 100%.
I just want you to know that I've been watching you for a few months now. This video is the turning point. I'm officially a socialist.
Nice! That’s so great to hear! Welcome, comrade
Welcome to the international proletariat.
Support from your neighbour to the north IF you're going to have at it! 👏👍😀
We desperately need guaranteed liveable universal basic income in Canada for especially the disabled, trauma and medical survivors and the working poor. But also unionization everywhere and more coops.
@@piku5637 I concur bud ☹️
this video should be shown 24/7 everywhere in the public all around the world. so that all ppl finally understand that this is the next step to evolve.
Agreed
C U B A uhm no thanks
@@ellatignor3250 what's that supposed to mean?
@@VulpineFox7 Cubans don’t have internet access 😳
And they have no freedom of press so..
I really dig and appreciate what you do, mate. Thank you for sticking with it and continuing to produce content that will hopefully enlighten more and more people to our very real and probable liberation.
2023 will be a crucial year. Not just because of the war in Ukraine or the Pandemic or Recession.... many, many people, all over the world, will have to choose between starving in the cold or standing up for themselves and eachother. Despite these past 2 decades, I'm still hopefull in a way.
First! But does it matter?
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Yes, of course it does!
Well now it does!
In terms of personal achievement and reflexes? It does.
Almost no one cares... but for once I actually am fine and do in fact, care
Over the past few weeks, I’ve watched a lot of your videos. It’s a very interesting perspective and it is challenging a lot of assumptions. The ideals are very appealing, but I wonder about the practical reality and implementation. Perhaps you could do a video on how such a system could be implemented in the U.S. under our current political model without violence. You also mentioned a few times about the shift from feudalism to capitalism. A video that discusses how that shift happened would be very enlightening. Thanks.
Higher taxes. It isn’t all that hard, we did it in the 60s-70s
I think unfortunately... with humanity.... there never was a peaceful transition... it's always revolution and war which inspires a new start... that or something truly earth-shattering like the Black Plague which started up the renaissance and romantic period.
in short... it will most likely get worse before it gets better.
personally, I believe it would be almost impossible in the US without at least a little violence. our democracy is very corrupt and frequently takes bribes from the wealthy. I feel like the people need to hold the economy hostage while also gaining control of the media (bc if we don’t, their fearmongering will just defeat the entire point) and all 3 branches of the government should be replaced on a 1:1 scale (to ease the transitional period between the two economic systems). if all three of those things need to happen at almost the exact same time and we planned out years in advance. what also needs to be planned out is what the officials running the government of the US will do with their newfound power. i’m talking about things like outlawing corporate lobbying, passing laws relating to climate change, guaranteeing a UBI (universal basic income), and much more. and of course, these reforms will all need to be planned out before this all happens, as well as plans to handle all sorts of potential future problems. it would be like using the system to destroy itself from the inside and create a better system.
In the US I imagineyou would have to slowly implement it over multiple presedencies just cause of how capitalistic modern USA is
You know sh*t has hit the fan, when Einstein's predictions on capitalism is visibly worse than what he thought.
I honestly have a lot to thank JT and the podcast crew for! You guys are brilliant, every day someone consumes the content you guys produce, individually or together, they get a step closer to becoming socialists. I'm a full-blown communist now who reads Marx, Lenin, Engels, Angela Davis and anyone else that's writing to undermine the capitalist system. Thank you so much!
This actually helps me with worldbuilding Second Thought. I'm making a Socialist Country for a setting and your videos help a lot man. :) thank you and keep being awesome.
Cool! Sounds like fun 😁
how tho
@@coltanium2000 ?!
Go outside and just DO IT!
Just kidding.
@@SecondThought Hey, ST have you ever looked into the Next System Project? Theyre a think tank that helps build co-ops and community wealth building institutions to help bring socialism into the real world.
This is fantastic! :)
It's both refreshing to see this, and sad I had to hunt for a video like this. Capitalists will always happily have the kneejerk reaction to socialism without ever understanding what socialism actually is, just like they have been trained to do . This video did a fantastic job at explaining it
Amazing work JT, your videos helped alot in my radicalisation. The podcast is also great and I would recommend people watch it if you have nothing to do.
Happy holidays comrades.
Thank you for this comrade! Our party is still in mourn for the passing of Communist Party of the Philippines Founder Jose Maria Sison. A great revolutionary and a teacher. I am still in mourn, but your videos and other socialists around the world makes me feel strong and feel that we are not alone in our struggle for national liberation in the Philippines!
I don't know much about Socialism. What I do know is that I thoroughly detest Capitalism.
Thanks for your work JT, I've really had a breakthrough these lasts few months thanks to the ideas you and the deprogram boys have been pushing. I've discovered just how beautiful and noble the socialist cause is, fighting for a society that exists to preserve the wellbeing of everyone and our planet.
That’s great to hear!
"My kids would be set for life." Boy you better give that woman a good year before you make her give you another kid.😤
lol
Hohoho
Good point lol
10:34 The funny part about people thinking the all-gray wardrobe is a socialist thing is that going to work in an office building run by capitalists either used to, or still does require a suit and tie.
I have two questions:
1:Is violation of private property through the means of nationalization or another form of coerced collectivization ethical?
2:Through what means is it better to establish a socialist society? Through marxist violent revolution or through serving example such as in utopian socialism?
1:in my socialist image the communized land will be something like large busiensses and not houses,so atleast in my socialist image it wotn really take public propietry from the average joe
2:None of the ones you mentioned,I think you dont even need violence for socialism,you just need to convince the people it would be good for them to try it
An open letter to JT:
I would like to give thanks to you as I have now learned that all economic models are built on unrealistic expectations, duct tape, and glue. With this in mind, I have come to the conclusion that socialism or even communism are better sets of expectations than capitalism and we should find the right duct tape and glue to hold together a socialist/communist society.
Happy Holidays from someone who discovered your channel in March 2022
P.S: I have a video request: Capitalism promotes itself on the merit of having voluntary exchange without coercion, but that is basically non-existent in a capitalist society as all non-wealthy parties involved are coerced. I would love to see this discussed in further detail at some point.
@@voomvoom4522 The only system I can think of that truly has the potential for voluntary exchange is Anarchism, as neither business nor government has a chance to intervene. I have seen many attempts to blend socialism with anarchism as well so expectations of such a thing being intact could be possible but not very likely.
@@voomvoom4522 Yes, historically under the USSR and Mao's China's socialist/communist methods, wealth was forcibly re-distributed, often by means that violated basic human rights. But look around in the U.S. right now. Wealth is being forcibly re-distributed upwardly. And through forced give-backs and union busting, secret closed-door meetings in which the Koch and other PACs tell their parties how they will vote. Then voter suppression and gerrymandering to keep other parties from balancing them out.
@Devil's Logic Stalin ring a bell or Mao, maybe communism is just feudalism with a fancy name big centralized elitist government and equity of despair for the common man. Every man who set out to create a communist utopia ended up killing tens of millions of people are you trying to say they just did it wrong. I swear some people just never learn the lessons we have been taught history repeats itself once as tragedy and twice as farce
The hell? Communism? How about fucking... sigh
@@voomvoom4522 the government would redistribute private property, not personal property. Private property meaning businesses and business capital, personal property meaning your own wealth, car, house etc. I.e. you get to keep your stuff and depending on the internal economic model, you might be more wealthy too because the money wouldn't be hoarded by parasitic investors and CEOs
Equality under socialism is not a ceiling for our living standards, but a floor.
When McCarthyists describe Capitalism, they describe Capitalism in fantasy.
When McCarthyists describe Socialism, they describe Capitalism in reality.
Excellent video! I learned in my own business that paying employees more and holding team meetings to plan out projects both increased my bottom line and led to a happier team.
Anyone saying it’s impossible either doesn’t know enough about the topic to engage in a serious conversation or benefits too much from the current system to ever want it to change regardless of how many would benefit.
the rhetoric quality starting at 3:00 is immense. Thanks for those eloquent words with a whole lot of message!
Ok second opinion, I will be a socialist since you asked nicely 👍
😂😂😂 that’s funny… but also a good point
I love how you used an Albert Einstein quote, as many people don’t see him as a socialist, and he, like Dr King, has been watered down to be revered by the system, both figures robbed of their revolutionary substance.
I can't speak for everyone but as someone who has autism, Capitalism was not designed for people with disabilities. We are frequently passed up for good paying, meaningful jobs and are assigned to medial labor jobs that are important but don't pay well. In addition, we then struggle to obtain good housing and modes of transportation (like cars). We are alienated, isolated, poor, and closed off from the rest of society. Probably one of the greatest failures of Capitalism is the massive unequal wealth and labor distribution that it creates. For example, some TH-camrs who do relatively nothing and have no talent are able to rake in millions of dollars while general labors toil all day for starvation wages. BTW, I'm a custodian.
I see a lot of comments about. "Everyone will be poorer under Socialism" but notice how very few people are rich under Capitalism.
Starting early is the best way of getting ahead to build wealth, investing remains a priority. The stock market has plenty of opportunities to earn a decent payouts, with the right skills and proper understanding of how the market works.
Ever since I lost my job with the ministry, I have been surviving through my investment with her, I am so glad I invested when I did. I’m earning $25k weekly with her
Investment is that tiny line that separates the rich from the poor.
Her successful stories are everywhere
But I doubted it too before until I gave it a try... and it was of no regret,
SHe is not like other brokers that will start telling you stories and excuses why they trade didn't go well after collecting your money, doubted it too before until I gave it a try...and it was of no regret.
Your editing is clean and your points are easily understood. not only in this video but your others.
I was once told economic collapse is the most profitable time for the rich
Спасибо вам большое, что так разборчиво говорите ! Я из России, владею английским языком только на уровне B2, но вас прекрасно понимаю. Правда спасибо, то в основном американцы так быстро и неразборчиво говорят для русского уха 😅
Действительно очень приятно слышать такую речь, но я пока без субтитров обойтись не могу.
ещё бы субтитры для матушки моей сделали бы, она ведь тоже социалистка. Но не соображает в английском ничего
@@shooey-mcmoss В Яндекс браузере есть отличный перевод видео, самим браузером не пользуюсь, но кидаю родственникам и знакомым кто английский не знает для англоязычных видосов
As a Marxist, I found your closing appeal very moving. Thank you being part of our movement, brother. I know you're making a difference, a difference that is entirely necessary for the sustained existence of all of society and our legacy.
I'm going to be a socialist in 2023 so there will be 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027 and so on
I Love You, Thank you for all that you do to show Humanity. That there is a better alternative way forward, I shared, subscribed and share you're beliefs and ideology of Socialism in an democratic society.