My Wife and I Found an Oasis Hiding Ancient Life
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
- While exploring a desert wilderness, we discover an inconceivable oasis full of ancient history and beauty.
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MY HUSBAND, WHO IS ALMOST 80, WANTED ME TO SEND A MESSAGE AND LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH HE ENJOYS YOR ADVENTURES. HE LIVED ON THE TAOS PUEBLO AS A CHILD. AS A TAOS NM ARTIST, HAS PAINTED MANY OF THE ELDERS OF THE NEW MEXICO AND ARIZONA PUEBLOES. HE REALLY APPRECIATES YOUR ATTITUDE OF HONORING THE PAST AND PRESENT AND BELIEVES YOUR SHOW IS A TRUE BLESSING. KEEP EXPLORING AND WE WILL KEEP WATCHING!
Sara, look to the left on your keyboard there is a key labeled Cap Locks push it once and you can use regular words without shouting at everyone! 😁😉
@@oldogre5999perhaps as an older lady her eyesight isn’t as good as yours and she needs capitals to be able to read it as she types.🙂
@@oldogre5999 I mean.. I read it and didn't hear any yelling
Thank you for sharing your husband's thoughts with us Sara. Please wish him our best!
Maybe it was easier for her to read.
Evelyn is a pleasant addition. Thank you for introducing her.
I’ve been curious who she was for a long time since this is my favorite TH-cam channel and I just can’t help but wonder who Andrew has been lucky enough to spend his life with! Not surprised she’s an angel.
Great, but did you guys prop up that table at 12:28, or was it there when you got there?
Beautiful wife, beautiful hike, beautiful cactus flowers and scenery all around. Appreciate you sharing your ventures with us all. ♥️♥️👍👍
Already there
She has a great smile -
Evelyn was my wife's name, she passed away at the age of 58, five years ago. ❤ I don't usually watch your videos, but this showed up on my recommended list and I'm glad it did!
Your wife's way of saying Hi! ❤
@@NanaAmySpectreSeeker1111 yes, she does that here and there. It's still an unusual name, so I'm surprised when I see it as often as I have.
@@Brisleep1 I'm happy you know she's there. I have a Spirit Box Communication channel, and I imagine it's awful, not being able to communicate things easily. We treat our deceased like they don't exist anymore (bc we can't see them) but I know they are there.
@@NanaAmySpectreSeeker1111 I did go to your channel, I have no problem seeing her when she's around, visiting me. Thank you for your kind comments.
@@Brisleep1 Thank You, Blessings ♥️
Lucky to have a wife willing to share in your passion. Don't forget to appreciate that
Ohhhhh !!!! Evelyn is such a good balance and match for you. Thank you for this opportunity to see you two together.
I too like her along! And, I like that you’re not hiking alone out there!
Such a great team!! & I love how you both seem to have some mountain goat climbing DNA!!!
*Welcome Evelyn! You guys are so goofy together, I love it!*
*I agree the **_Rock Goddess_** @**21:50** isn't ancient, but it's at least ten days of work onsite and way too heavy to import it... so someone hiked out there with tools and carved it in place for an audience that might never visit?*
*More likely it was brought up from the South from someplace near Copán, and carried in hundreds of years ago.*
*There are aspects of the Rock Goddess (like the tree/hair that are very familiar).*
She's good looking, too!
@@1nvisible1,
I have to disagree with you, and it is based upon my experience living through the real hippie days of the 1960s and 1970s with the birth of Earth Day and the artwork from Height Ash-berry and the psychedelic poster art that drove most contemporary artists and their work. There is very little doubt that one of the previous comments was probably correct in estimating that it took someone at least 10 days of fairly steady work to complete and I also concur that I doubt that anyone with any brained would be willing to carry it in/overland as a completed project when they could bring the tools and have an actual “Love In”!
Bro your wife is a real character! Glad you have her with you!
Haha she is!
@@Desert.Drifter 23:0. that head sculpture, the date is on the bottom.. i still think, it was flooded, when those graneries were built, access by boat.. ?..there must be some evidence of corn fields, raws, somewhere..you dont just plant 2 or 3..or were they traded from other areas..plus, wheres the source of arrow heads.?. nothing but sandstone there.
100%
Are you sure it is not old? Modern people my not have the skills. It is what I would call the TREE OF LIFE. Show you photos to men in a university, you already do, thank you for you site.
@Desert drifter's, could that piece of metal on sandstone table be what was used to carve the sand stone head?
I’m 58 yrs old and never knew places like this even existed in the US until a few years ago. I love your videos. These videos should be shown in schools so young kids can learn from them!
I think Evelyn really was a nice breath of fresh air in your video series. Please ask her to come more often!
She's definitely a keeper, my friend. And I mean that in the most respectful way. I love when my wife travels with me on adventures...it's so much more rewarding and fun!!
I nwould love sharing theses adventures with a loved one, that would be awsome.
No woman, no cry...😩😓😁
Yes, invite Evelyn along again!
I used to think your wife must be a special person to let you run off by yourself all the time, but to have her join you makes her *REALLY* special! I enjoyed watching the two of you explore together, don't stop!
That one small tree growing out of that small patch of soil is a perfect example of how even in a minimal environment life expresses itself so beautifully and powerfully! God you are AMAZING! ❤️
That tree reminded me of my wife and I going to Volcano National Park in Hawaii. Out in the lava fields you could spot something green growing here and there in that rock. Just enough crack to sprout up a plant.
What a lovely way of expressing a thought. That made me feel so peaceful suddenly. TY 👏🏻👍🏼
I'd say it's nature that's amazing. Give it some credit! I find there's more beauty in the fact that such incredible complexity and history can form in a universe without an "intelligent designer." As physics plays out, this is what happens. From the most distant galaxies in wavelengths we can't even see with our human eyes to the microscopic life only resolved with technology like electron microscopes, all truly wonders to behold. Giving some sky daddy all the credit would ruin the beauty of it all.
@@Cara.314 What do you think nature is? 😂😂😂
Also proves Ian Malcom's saying "life finds a way"
My vote is: YES Always bring your Mrs Drifter with you if she is able and wants to go, she always lightens things up and she IS your better half after all.. 😀
Seems like a smart nice girl.
No tattoos are a HUGE plus.
@joesands8860
Are you saying that you _wouldn't_ prefer a woman with lots of tattoos? But just imagine how much more beautiful Marilyn Monroe and Elizabeth Taylor would've been in their prime, if only they'd had lots of tattoos on their necks, faces, stomachs and legs! Ahh, classic beauty.....😁
Marlyn was a nasty woman. Slept with everyone in the buisness.
Same with Taylor swift.
Souless industry women who were and are willing to do the most vile things paid by bankers grandsons who are on drugs and have sick thoughts.
You need to choose better role models.
@@HighlanderNorth1
A real woman keeps close to her female traits and doesn't imitate biker men with beer bellies and tattoos
I really like your videos. I am part Apache and Pueblo Indian. My dad grew up in New Mexico near Pie Town on the Criswell Ranch. I am George Criswell's grandson. My dad told me stories about growing up on the ranch and how he would ride to the hills and explore the canyons, He said he found several of what he called cliff dweller ruins. He said they were well intact with whole pottery, arrowheads everywhere corn cobs, and burnt corn cobs still in the fireplaces. I never went to the ruins because my Grandfather sold the ranch which was over 46000 acres long before I was born. Anyway, I wanted to tell you this because I thought you might want to research it and maybe you could find the ruins my dad spoke about. The Criswell ranch is on the internet today as it is being sold off in chunks. I hope this becomes one of your videos. Thank you again for letting me relive a memory of the stories my father told me.
Thank you for sharing that story❤
You have such amazing history! To be a bug on the wall and listen to your father's stories...
Amazing!!! Thank you for sharing
Loved the story, thanks for sharing. Would love to have access to a place like that!
They used to make some amazing Goat Cheese in Pie Town. I sure miss the Hatch Chili cheese they used to make.
You are very blessed to have such a sweet and beautiful companion in life.
I couldn’t agree more.
Thank you for taking us on your adventures.
Desert Drifter, you put so much effort into your videos! Thank you! Your narration is wonderful! Great job on this video and all of them! And, so nice to meet Mrs. Drifter. So lovely.
Bringing and including your life partner as you roam the earth is such a blessing.
Evelyn's smile radiates happiness and light. You're a lucky man Mr Drifter!
I like the wonderful addition of "Mrs. Drifter." :)
I just liked alot what you did showing marvelous places friend; and also, I loved to see You and your wife working together doing that. God bless You. Thank You so much.
Your wife is absolutely stunning! Nice to meet you, Evelyn! Wonderful collaboration ❤
You need to definitely have your wife with you from now on because the trips/trails you hike are not always safe to be alone. She adds more life and love to your videos. She’s an extra pair of eyes and a great companion. Awesome video!
Broken legs, what the procedure? ☎️ a friend?
This is the best advice to give. The buddy system can be applied to many types of activities.
1 person is fine until it's not. Then it's too late. Adding just 1 more person opens the options and possibilities _infinitely._
@@michaelmoore7975 but how would u be got out of the area and by whom?
@@Mindsi 1st thing is you need to have emergency numbers from that area plugged into both phones. Next, plot out and discuss the intended route from when you leave the car to the destination. Just a general direction from the car. And distance in a direct line to the destination. This is to simplify and reduce wasted searching. For instance, if one person can't be moved and the other gets out, to tell rescuers "he is North Northwest from where we parked, about 3 miles as the crow flies" or "East Southeast from where we parked 3 and 3/4 miles as the crow flies.' Whatever the case may be. It will help immensely just by knowing a general distance and direction.
While hiking, always keep some distance between the both of them. Not a lot, just keep each other in sight. This way, if something happens to 1 person, it won't likely happen to the other, leaving them to seek help if necessary.
Now IF something happens....say 1 person slips, falls and breaks their back. Hopefully, you can call rescuers and tell the direction and distance from where your car is located. Then just keep the injured person from moving, provide shade if possible, and keep them hydrated. When you hear voices yell to get their attention. If you hear a helicopter, get to a clear area, take off the brightest, biggest piece of clothing and wave it in great big circles to be seen.
But if there is no cell service, then the uninjured person provides shade, leave the injured with some water, and hike back out to the car as fast as safe as you can. Then either drive or find cell service to call emergency. Then everyone go back to where the car was parked and give the distance and direction and go along to help locate the injured.
@@michaelmoore7975 is correct. The buddy system is best. I would add that smoke is also good at getting attention if you don't have brightly colored fabric. Also, phone a friend (or two) before you go so that if you both end up in trouble, your friends can notify emergency services for you.
I love these channels but I worry for our host. Climbing these steep canyons, with no safety gear, all alone?
That carved rock was amazing and even though it was an ancient site and I do believe in leaving everything alone, it does say that human life goes on and that it wasn't just for the ancients, we really don't know how old that is but I don't think that it was such a bad edition. I think if there were only a few ruins out there that I would probably be more upset, but they're scattered all over the place and more are discovered every day, so yeah, that's pretty amazing. I hope you got a lot of pictures
Another great video, thanks for introducing your Evelyn, I think she is a great addition.
That face sculpture is crazy. Who ever and whenever they did it and just left it there really left a treasure.
yes indeed. Looks Sumerian. I dont think a hiker went up there with a hammer and chisels and carved this on a camping trip then left it there for people to admire.
I like it much better than names scratched into the rocks or wood.
i would say it took more than a week to carve that
Looks like someone lived there for an extended period and started to set up the cave, out of necessity, as the ancients could have. That thing wasn't carved in a day. A week, semester, idk. I'd call that a gift to the world, maybe there are good and bad traces to be left.
I highly doubt someone did that recently. Have you ever tried to carve something in wood that size? That takes a lot of time even if they had power tools.
Not only is it nice to be further introduced to your life, but having Evelyn there and filming her, it gives a great perspective of the magnitude of your adventure.
You definitely have my vote to continue including Evelyn! She is a natural in front of the camera. This was an incredible video - well done you guys!
Yes Ms Drifter was a nice addition. I sure enjoy your amazing photography and wisdom about the ancient ones. Thank you for being respectful of what you find and of the ancestors who once called this area their home.
Nice to see your lovely wife. Beautiful place to be together.
Evelyn is not your ideal companion
@@eldorado1244???
@@eldorado1244Who is then?
Omg I literally gasped at the stone face!! This was the best one yet, not just because we got to meet Evelyn but the drone footage of scenery, the sounds, everything… this is going to be hard to beat!! Wow, thank you Andrew and Evelyn!
I agree!
I feel so grateful when you have Evelyn with you. I find myself holding my breathe watching you from time to time! Thank you for your great example of caring for Mother Earth and her history.
Hello Evelyn, you two are a beautiful match! Looking forward to many more awesome vids with you BOTH !!!❤❤❤
What a wonderful place to bring your wife. The word "ideal" comes to mind, as does "garden of Eden". Just beautiful! Lovely to see you Evelyn. Such a cute couple!
There was a place where the river looked like the garden of Eden. I'm glad I wasn't alone in noticing.
Having Evelyn along with you sure adds a new dimention to your video. I think this was your best one so far. The sculpture was a real surprise too. I really enjoyed this.
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Dimension*
Beautiful place! Thank you for sharing.
I want to see more of Evelyn please! She clearly shares your love and respect of the natural world. It was a pleasure to watch you together :)
Sure, having someone to share the day with is excellent. As an old man, I vote bring your wife along. If you were a couple that fought all the time, leave her at home, but that is not the case. Take her with you. Build memories!
Evelyn is a breath of fresh air and a lot of fun and energy. I vote to having her with you on as many adventures as possible. ❤❤
Yay! Very appreciated too see Evelyn (Mrs Drifter) along. 🌻🐛🌿💚🙏💕
Another amazing video my friend. You're wife being with you made it all the better. I cannot get out a lot anymore and your videos are a real pleasure to watch. God Bless and stay safe!
You are the luckiest man on the face of the Earth, for all of time. Evelyn, thanks for joining us, and I hope you’ll be a frequent co-host.
Evelyn is beautiful, and her smile. You folks make a great pair!
Your wife is a wonderful addition to this channel. Include her much more in the future.
So pleased to see Mrs Drifter and you out on an adventure.
A pleasure meeting Mrs. Drifter, what a great team!
MORE EVELYN! You two are wonderful on camera together, and she’s just as adventurous as you are…do it for us ladies!
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Agreed! As a lady follower, I’d enjoy more cameos of her, or an outright shift to dual hiking adventures would be okay too!
"do it for us ladies!"
And gents!
Yeah loved Mrs Drifter you guy's are greater together, she was spot on for describing the smells it's one of the majorly enjoyable aspects of hiking. Thank you.
Your videos are getting better and better. Thank you for taking us along your trips.
When i was 18 years old (1998) i went to the Smoky Mountains to camp, it was my first time in nature, I am from Chicago, and it was a good time! At that time i’ve never heard of the phrase “Leave No Trace” or anything about outdoor ethics! I remember my friends and I started driving away you could see our mess (cups, paper towels, paper plates) it just stood out like a sore thumb! I forced them to go back and we cleaned up put everything in bags or just inside our car and took it to the visitor center and threw it away. That experience changed the way i looked at things and even now i go out of my way to clean up whenever i go hiking or camping!
Thank you!
I’m glad you understood that instinctively. Having grown up during the national anti littering campaign I just assumed that was part of everyone’s upbringing now, but if the understanding comes from within that is even better.
,Beautiful, beautiful,my husband and I EXPLORED many places in UTAH, AND ARIZONA,THIS BRINGS MANY MEMORIES,HE SAID THIS WAS DONE BY HIS PEOPLE, BECAUSE OF COURSE MUCH OF THIS HAPPENED WHEN UTAH ARIZONA, COLORADO AND NEW MEXICO WAS OWNED BY MEXICO,IT WAS ALL MEXICAN TERRITORY, UNFORTUNATELY HE LEFT ME ON NEW YEARS EVE TWO WEEKS BEFORE HIS 90TH.B.DAY, SO ENJOY YOUR TIME TOGETHER, AND MAKE MANY MEMORIES, BECAUSE AT THE END , THAT IS ALL WE HAVE, HAPPY TRAILS TO YOU,WE ALWAYS LIVED IN UTAH WE MOVED TO CA. AFTER HE RETIRED FROM THE COPPER MINE, NOW A RIO TINTO COMPANY.GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS.🙏
Thank you for sharing, and sorry that you lost him. It is a blessing to look back on all the great joys of our lives, it is its own gift of time.
I loved Evelyn being with you. Include her in more of your adventures.
Love your channel. PLEASE PLEASE keep your locations hidden, there seems to be a bunch of people that think it's all right to destroy these natural wonders. Thanks again for your passion for the ancient ones!
My husband and I loved getting to see Evelyn. Her personality shined through. We can tell shes a real character. Please have her on more adventures. As for this hike we both think it's your best one yet. It was so beautiful with the red earth, green trees and stream. The sculpture was really interesting.
Yes. Take your wife. She seems like shes not only beautiful on the outside, but inside as well! ❤
Evelyn is s sweet lady, she keeps you hopping! I love how you guys have a gentle competition to see who gets to the new place first! This was a beautiful place you went to, it makes a person wish they could have known some of the original dwellers and why they chose to live there!
Definitely more of the Desert Drifter Duo! Evelyn is lovely
Bring her again. It will enrichen your marriage, give you both shared memories and respect for your later years. A true partnership, and the two of you can cover more ground together. An extra set of eyes. God bless.
Enrich*
Until the inevitable divorce comes, and then bitter resentment sets in .
Have a wonderful day ! 😊
The stone face looks very contemporary and apropos. A talented artist felt inspired and made a tasteful sculpture for us to enjoy. It is not vandalism or graffiti.
I always enjoy your videos but it was a real treat to Evelyn along .
You’ve been greatly blessed to have her. Thanks for sharing her great company with us. 👍👍👍
The oasis is as beautiful as you two are. Thank you for this glimpse into the canyon. It was indeed amazing!
I think the use of "the ancient ones", is quite appropriate, Andrew. This Pueblo member approves 👍,Coming from this (recent one)😂
It's one thing to be able to admire the beauty and grandeur of the desert solo... but it's 1,000 times better being able to share it with the one you love. ♥
Absolutely!
You and Evelyn are a great team. You bless each other. I think the ancient one's would be blessed by you two, cause your so respectful of there invierment. 😊
Amazing how the addition of another person (Nice to meet, you, Evelyn!) balances the vibe of the adventure. The sole drifter has an inevitable sadness, even though we the viewers are virtually along for the drift. But the second person dispels that loneliness and makes it feel like a true shared experience.
So that's the viewer perspective. For the two of you, though, imagine what wonderful memories you will have made together on what I hope will be many more drifts together - a treasure to share into your old age.
Blessings to you both, and thank you for sharing the view.
Definitely worth having your wife along! Looked like she was enjoying herself.
Dick Zufelt was born on 20 December 1920, in Moab, Grand, Utah, United States and passed in November 2005.
I seriously thought it was a joke.
"dicks you felt"
Whoops!
So he was 15 years old when he was there!
Would be pretty typical for a fifteen year old boy to scratch his name on the wall.
@@remay11 Your mama's boyfriend
I don't think he could have imagined that such a large audience would see his “work of art”.
Absolutely bring her along. Her laughter is contagious. She’s a great role model. Your videos are always enjoyable but the two of you together made this one special.
Love y’all’s comments. Can’t tell you how thankful I am to have found this channel. Grew up in central eastern Utah and I feel at home hiking on these rocks with you. Love it!
awwwww your precious precious wifey!! How gorgeous are you both!! and absolutely INcredible terrain!! thx for bringing us along🥰🥰🥰
4:57 omigosh that outstanding rock art!!!! isn’t that just so wild??!! wow! totally wow… that’s so cool… that flood debris is intense too.. beautiful beautiful beeeeeutiful
looove the drone footage.. that natural arch is just stunning
My grandmother's name was Evelyn. I'll be 69 in August but I can still hear, faintly, Grandpa's voice calling Ev. That's what he always called her. A nice memory.
Kinda neat having another person on your journey, they allowed me to get a better perspective of the scale of what I'm looking at.
The canyons with trees, amazing rock formations, and water running thru are so inviting...I can imagine people staying there awhile. Beautiful place!
You two make a beautiful couple. Nice to meet you, Evelyn! This was a gorgeous spot, and that carving was amazing. Thanks for taking us along!
great username!
Loved Evelyn's discovery! She is truly a worthy companion.
What a magical spot. It's lovely you were able to share it with your wife.
That rock sculpture is truly amazing!! When I look at it carefully it gives off a message that only a native American Indian could carve filled with ancient knowledge. I am not saying it is ancient in itself but the imagery it portrays speaks of the ancient knowledge passed down through generations. Someone who intimately knows of their roots and connection to this location could carve something like this monument in memory of this place's significance. To me this what the highlight of the trip. Wonderful meeting Mrs Drifter and she certainly such a blessing in your life.
It's great to see your wife the "boss' with you 😂. We enjoy your adventures.
Phil & Kerri Spencer Ohio
Really Nice Job on your drone footage, with the real sounds. Glad your channel popped up on my feed.😊
Good to see your wife along she seems to be happy person. The carved face almost looked Aztec. Interesting.
Very lucky couple. I imagine you have the struggles we all do but you can tell there is a natural chemistry between you two.
I can see she keeps you awake and alert -- a good partner. A different vibe than with your buddies. Variety is the spice of life!
How can you not have Evelyn along again; lots of smiles
YES.. Your wife was a wonderful site to behold climbing and laughing with such a beautiful smile. You are such a lucky man to have her.
Evelyn is a good hiker and explorer. She added to your hike, not just for us, but for you. We could see how much you both enjoyed this adventure. Keep always smiling Evelyn. Thanks for the enjoyment we can't do. Drifter and Driftess more adventures coming soon.
Loved having Mrs Drifter along. And that piece of art work was the bomb. Whoever it was can leave their mark where i am any time they want.
Your lady compliments you nicely. Adventerous with a killer smile! Best wishes to you both.
I think the sculpture is amazing, if you leave a trace of that high quality, its a gem and a reminder of modern day beauty - the generations that will come after us can marvel at it. And it fits perfectly into its surroundings! Its part of the land now. Sure, the ancient ones lived there but now, people like the artist walk that place and we should treasure that we live in this world and we should enhance the beauty of it
I'm not really much of a fan of the desert, but your videos are beginning to change my mind and help me to see beauty where I saw none before. The drone shots really help with this.
Keep bringing your wife along. She's a good addition and probably nice for you to have along.
Yes! Thanks for bringing your wife along and introducing her. I love what you’re doing!
Please share your favorite hiking shoe.
The wife is a pleasant and welcome addition to the vid.....please include her in upcoming vids as the situation permits :)
How lucky are you? Fantastic views, exploration, now you introduce your beautiful wife. I love your show and you bringing us along to see the art and architecture of the ancestors and of coarse the nature.
This area is absolutely gorgeous
Wind thru the cottonwoods And a bubbling stream - heaven. So glad to see you not out there alone.
Awesome! Glad to see the wife too, the places you visit are always best when enjoyed with another. Thanks for bringing these to us.
That rock sculpture is a really curious thing. Nobody hauled it up there and it obviously took quite some time to carve it.
Someone spent a lot of time there doing that.
Amazing in every way! It’s such a joy to have a real PARTNER on the path of life. Thank you both for sharing this joint adventure. What a day!
yep , quite a mistery , id love to know more
Shouldn't somebody date it?!?
@@beentheredonethat5495 I've had worse dates, so I would go on a date with that stone.
Jokes aside i think it's hard to do with rocks because they are not organic
I'm pretty sure that rock art is modern. The details are too delicate and intricate. I really hope it was an indigenous artist otherwise it was defacing their ancestors land. Doesn't matter how pretty the artwork is. But also art is a means of opening up discussion and bringing awareness to its interpretation.
My wife and I are 60 + . We are so happy to see you both together. Her mom's name was Evelyn too. Happy to see you both. Good day Blessings .
This is an amazing place and how wonderful that you got to share it with your wife. I enjoyed watching the two of you interact.
Bring Mrs. Drifter again!! I loved getting perspective from both of you and also it was refreshing to witness your playfulness with each other!
This so far is my favorite video that you have put out. And I have really admired a lot of your videos. You make some wonderful videos about creation and ancient people that live there. I am always intrigued. But not only do. I think this is one of your best because of the location and the scenery but also because you brought your wife with you. It is very heartwarming to see your woman be able to enjoy what you do also. And to have her accompany you on this one particular video warms my heart to see the two of you together.
My opinion, it would be nice to see your wife accompany you on other video excursions through the canyons of the southwest
Thanks Mike. I will let her know. And I’m sure she’ll join me again at some point
@@Desert.Driftercan you remember how long it took from the cliff to Ortho-Bridge?