This video has saved me from a 3,400 dollar mistake, seriously, thank you for making this video. I have never considered a custom build until now and it is as the only way forward for me from now on.
Stumbled across this today, I do not know your entire background and I really enjoyed your reviews and Advice. I just got the Long Range bug in the last year. Spent a ton of $$$. I have gone through all the steps and spreadsheets just like you making comparisons. I will be following you in the future THANKS FOR THE GREAT ADVICE...
@@Timberwolf1Silenthunter absolutely. Welcome to the channel! Glad to have you don’t be afraid to reach out and ask questions. I promise you if I’ve done anything as a competitive shooter or hunter it’s that I’ve made about every buying mistake you can possibly make ha ha. Hopefully I can help you avoid that tragedy.
Thank you! That’s a range called Gadsen Shooting Center, a private range in the Midwest. That TT was bought two 1/2 years ago…like everything else prices were a bit lower back then. Thanks again
Excellent points made on this video man. Agree 100% on you get what you pay for. Buy once cry once. Accuracy is phenomenal. Congratulations. Gave you a sub.
Great video! I’m like you and spent stupid money trying out all of those guarantees that none of them worked. But don’t get me wrong if you’re hunting within 300 yards and that’s it you’ll be OK with the cheaper rifles. So I did my own build just like yours. I used a Curtis ultralight action with a proof sendero barrel, and a manners long range hunter stock and of course the trigger tech trigger. Topped of with a titanium dead silencer and a NX8 scope. Phenomenal.
And with the scope and supressor you got there you got a $5,000.00 rifle. Yea that rifle better shoot 3 inch groups or better at 600 yards! Definetly a great combo of components but yes there are other less expensive routes out there and same accuracy. I'm glad that rifle shot great man!
Great video. Rolling in that modularity value I think is something a lot of people dont calculate. If I want to go shoot prairie dogs, I can do it with the same rifle I invested in simply by swapping barrels. Or if you’re going to shoot prairie dogs, I dont need MULTIPLE thousand dollar rifles, I could bring a stack of barrels and change them on site.
Great point. I also see a lot of value in not having to outfit each new rifle with an equally capable scope which could easily double the cost of a new rifle setup.
@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 I’m super curious about the 6 PRC. How would you rate the recoil of it against the 6.5 Creedmoor? Also what kind of velocity were you getting?
You have some good points. I think with prefit barrels being an option today, you are much better off going with a lighter weight action that can accept them. Sets you up nice for the future. Its easy to add weight later on if you want to for recreational shooting. What's the recoil comparison like between 6 prc and 6.5 creed?
I know budget and custom guns don’t go together, but what about a gun closer to the 2020 waypoint price and accuracy. Most people can’t shoot as accurate as the rifle will allow them anyways. Looking for more of the 2500 dollar range
That all black I absolutely love…have the fn special police.308 blacked out with 15x viper and dd5v3 I swap scope to and it’s setup as a 16” dmr that prints 3”@520 with factory hornady 178bthp…
In your comments on the Waypoint when you mentioned shooting out the barrel, is your concern about what you would be able to replace it with? Meaning they is not currently an option on the market to fit the action?
The action on the Waypoint, to my knowledge, is not a blueprintEd perfected action like these custom actions are. Therefore, you might be able to find a barrel replacement, or send it back to the factory for another barrel however, that Barrel is certainly not going to be perfectly cut center to bore like it would be on a Custom action. Therefore you’re giving up a ton of accuracy/ repeatability consistency.
It’s somewhat comparable to a Remington 700. Yes you could find other Barrels that would fit your Remington 700 action however, back in the day if you want a perfectly cut Barrel, you had to get your action blueprinted and tried up and then have a barrel cut to the newly perfected specs. Remington 700s Fresh off the line in a new production are probably pretty trued, however when you get to the last one of 2000 produced …tolerances are going to be lacking.
Okay I'm torn now lol. I have been heavily debating getting the springfield waypoint for a new lighter hunting gun. Would you recommend it for a novice long distance shooter or to build a rifle from scratch?
I would. Even just a piece at a time. Or, find a "factory" with a custom action you could re-barrel down the road. Then you could add a different stock and trigger as money and time allowed.
Tikka, Bergara and Springfield seem like good factory options that allow for modularity as you gather money to buy components. You can still shoot it whilst you gather your components and dollars of money to customize. There are a lot of options for triggers, stocks and prefit barrels with the three I mentioned. Having said that, Bergara does not have a Proof Research prefit option to my knowledge. Tikka and Springfield do. Not a deal breaker for me but it’s something to consider. Sorry to throw this in as you’re already torn lol
A carbon Bartlein including chamber/muzzle for 1K? Trigger tech 150? LRH 900? DAMN!!! I payed 1.5K for a Proof carbon including chambering and muzzle threads (LRI), 1100 for the LRH with mini chassis and 260 for a Trigger tech diamond 2 stage. Thats 800 more then what you spent. Obviously I am shopping in the wrong places! Where do you find these deals?
I stated a couple times in the video, this footage was filmed four years ago, so some of these prices are antiquated. These were pre-COVID prices. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 Are there any off the shelf offerings you recommend in .308? Prefer something with mag compatibility of SR-25 like the RPR.
Didn't add bedding price on second b Build And mini chassis is another $160 Didn't add muzzle break either Not that's its that much more money But it all adds up
There was no bedding on the second one. Manners offers a new option where you don’t have to bed the top component and the bottom is fashioned to take any standard M5 DBM. I wish I would’ve mentioned that in the video but that’s why I didn’t add betting. same concept with a muzzle brake and some of the other stuff I had one sitting in a bin, but I should’ve vocalized that as well. Thanks for watching and your comments.
I just got a 7 prc build and I was looking for 10 pound gun just cuz I want to be able to see impacts I'm running a mcmillan hunter stock and I build it on a Defiance deviant tactical not the best option for a lightweight built but I'm really happy with how it turned out. Cost of it right around 4300 dollars too
This video has saved me from a 3,400 dollar mistake, seriously, thank you for making this video. I have never considered a custom build until now and it is as the only way forward for me from now on.
So glad to hear this. Literally this comment is exactly why I make these videos and have this channel. Thanks my friend, happy hunting!
Stumbled across this today, I do not know your entire background and I really enjoyed your reviews and Advice. I just got the Long Range bug in the last year. Spent a ton of $$$. I have gone through all the steps and spreadsheets just like you making comparisons. I will be following you in the future THANKS FOR THE GREAT ADVICE...
@@Timberwolf1Silenthunter absolutely. Welcome to the channel! Glad to have you don’t be afraid to reach out and ask questions. I promise you if I’ve done anything as a competitive shooter or hunter it’s that I’ve made about every buying mistake you can possibly make ha ha. Hopefully I can help you avoid that tragedy.
Thank you! That’s a range called Gadsen Shooting Center, a private range in the Midwest. That TT was bought two 1/2 years ago…like everything else prices were a bit lower back then.
Thanks again
Thank you for making this! I’ve been watching TH-cam vids all day looking for exactly this!!! I’m building mine!!
So glad. I hope I helped you brother, thank you for the kind words.
Excellent points made on this video man. Agree 100% on you get what you pay for. Buy once cry once. Accuracy is phenomenal. Congratulations. Gave you a sub.
Nice stacks, so tight!
Thanks for sharing!
@@othnielbendavid9777 thank you for watching
That 6.5 creed looks nice. Great shooting!
Great video! I’m like you and spent stupid money trying out all of those guarantees that none of them worked. But don’t get me wrong if you’re hunting within 300 yards and that’s it you’ll be OK with the cheaper rifles. So I did my own build just like yours. I used a Curtis ultralight action with a proof sendero barrel, and a manners long range hunter stock and of course the trigger tech trigger. Topped of with a titanium dead silencer and a NX8 scope. Phenomenal.
Super impressive!!!!!!!! Wow!!!!
Thank you!
Great Video... What Range is that, where? And where can I get a Triggertech Diamond for that price?
And with the scope and supressor you got there you got a $5,000.00 rifle. Yea that rifle better shoot 3 inch groups or better at 600 yards! Definetly a great combo of components but yes there are other less expensive routes out there and same accuracy. I'm glad that rifle shot great man!
Great video.
Rolling in that modularity value I think is something a lot of people dont calculate.
If I want to go shoot prairie dogs, I can do it with the same rifle I invested in simply by swapping barrels.
Or if you’re going to shoot prairie dogs, I dont need MULTIPLE thousand dollar rifles, I could bring a stack of barrels and change them on site.
Great point. I also see a lot of value in not having to outfit each new rifle with an equally capable scope which could easily double the cost of a new rifle setup.
@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 I’m super curious about the 6 PRC. How would you rate the recoil of it against the 6.5 Creedmoor? Also what kind of velocity were you getting?
Great question, brother. I’m actually working on a video to go through the details of that cartridge. Standby… more to come soon. Thanks for watching!
Great points, thank you
Thanks for watching and commenting!
You have some good points. I think with prefit barrels being an option today, you are much better off going with a lighter weight action that can accept them. Sets you up nice for the future. Its easy to add weight later on if you want to for recreational shooting. What's the recoil comparison like between 6 prc and 6.5 creed?
I know budget and custom guns don’t go together, but what about a gun closer to the 2020 waypoint price and accuracy. Most people can’t shoot as accurate as the rifle will allow them anyways. Looking for more of the 2500 dollar range
AWESOME VIDEO
Double D. Always a pleasure.
Bergara Divide in 6.5 PRC? About to pull the trigger as first bolty. Want to be able to hunt but also target choot.
That all black I absolutely love…have the fn special police.308 blacked out with 15x viper and dd5v3 I swap scope to and it’s setup as a 16” dmr that prints 3”@520 with factory hornady 178bthp…
Sounds like an awesome rig! Thanks for watching!!
In your comments on the Waypoint when you mentioned shooting out the barrel, is your concern about what you would be able to replace it with? Meaning they is not currently an option on the market to fit the action?
The action on the Waypoint, to my knowledge, is not a blueprintEd perfected action like these custom actions are. Therefore, you might be able to find a barrel replacement, or send it back to the factory for another barrel however, that Barrel is certainly not going to be perfectly cut center to bore like it would be on a Custom action. Therefore you’re giving up a ton of accuracy/ repeatability consistency.
It’s somewhat comparable to a Remington 700. Yes you could find other Barrels that would fit your Remington 700 action however, back in the day if you want a perfectly cut Barrel, you had to get your action blueprinted and tried up and then have a barrel cut to the newly perfected specs. Remington 700s Fresh off the line in a new production are probably pretty trued, however when you get to the last one of 2000 produced …tolerances are going to be lacking.
Muy bueno ,que rifle es ,un saludo desde España
I was always so confused why I couldn’t find part 2 😂
You can now, brother!
6PRC? I hope you ordered two barrels. Seriously though, that's an awesome build.
You bet…..I love it!!!
Where can I buy your build #2?
@@fernandoserna3149 Walls Rifles….ask for Joe Walls
Got it thank you
What scope is this?
NightForce NX8 - 4-32x50mm F1
We want some more “stage breakdowns” video analyzation.
Okay I'm torn now lol. I have been heavily debating getting the springfield waypoint for a new lighter hunting gun. Would you recommend it for a novice long distance shooter or to build a rifle from scratch?
I would. Even just a piece at a time. Or, find a "factory" with a custom action you could re-barrel down the road. Then you could add a different stock and trigger as money and time allowed.
Tikka, Bergara and Springfield seem like good factory options that allow for modularity as you gather money to buy components. You can still shoot it whilst you gather your components and dollars of money to customize. There are a lot of options for triggers, stocks and prefit barrels with the three I mentioned. Having said that, Bergara does not have a Proof Research prefit option to my knowledge. Tikka and Springfield do. Not a deal breaker for me but it’s something to consider. Sorry to throw this in as you’re already torn lol
A carbon Bartlein including chamber/muzzle for 1K? Trigger tech 150? LRH 900? DAMN!!! I payed 1.5K for a Proof carbon including chambering and muzzle threads (LRI), 1100 for the LRH with mini chassis and 260 for a Trigger tech diamond 2 stage. Thats 800 more then what you spent. Obviously I am shopping in the wrong places! Where do you find these deals?
I stated a couple times in the video, this footage was filmed four years ago, so some of these prices are antiquated. These were pre-COVID prices. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Where is the RPR?
Ole Ruger girl didn't make the cut homie
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 Are there any off the shelf offerings you recommend in .308? Prefer something with mag compatibility of SR-25 like the RPR.
Didn't add bedding price on second b
Build
And mini chassis is another $160
Didn't add muzzle break either
Not that's its that much more money
But it all adds up
There was no bedding on the second one. Manners offers a new option where you don’t have to bed the top component and the bottom is fashioned to take any standard M5 DBM. I wish I would’ve mentioned that in the video but that’s why I didn’t add betting. same concept with a muzzle brake and some of the other stuff I had one sitting in a bin, but I should’ve vocalized that as well. Thanks for watching and your comments.
How much for one in 243? I'm impressed
Same price as any other custom build...just select the .243 at your smith. Thanks for watching!!
6.5 prc for yotes?
Just LOL.
6 PRC, homie.
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935
I could have sworn you said 6.5....my bad.
You are still hammering them into oblivion. 🦾☠️
@@NBKmediaPRS there’s no such thing as overkill. Dead is dead whether solid or liquified. 🤣
@@MontanaWillie44 The hide is worth more in resources without a gapping hole in both sides....that is my point.
I just got a 7 prc build and I was looking for 10 pound gun just cuz I want to be able to see impacts I'm running a mcmillan hunter stock and I build it on a Defiance deviant tactical not the best option for a lightweight built but I'm really happy with how it turned out. Cost of it right around 4300 dollars too
Sounds like an awesome build!