How To Hit Your Tennis Forehand Like Nick Kyrgios - Tennis Forehand Analysis

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  • How To Hit Your Tennis Forehand Like Nick Kyrgios - Tennis Forehand Analysis. The forehand in tennis is the most important shot after the serve and return, many players struggle to generate effortless power with their forehands, but not Nick Kyrgios! Kyrgios has one of the biggest forehands on the ATP tour and can smash forehand winners at will. Kyrgios' forehand is very unique, he has an unorthodox swing path and in this free video lesson, coach Simon Konov of Top Tennis Training will break down and analyse exactly what makes Nick's forehand so effective.
    Nick Kyrgios Forehand Grip
    Nick uses a hybrid tennis forehand grip, between a semi-western and full western forehand grip. The grip plays a vital role in his swing, as you'll learn in this lesson.
    There are three main elements of the Kyrgios forehand that we'll look closely at:
    1. The role of his right elbow in the swing and preparation phase.
    2. Where the tip of his racket is pointing during the swing.
    3. The unique swing path he uses.
    The Elbow
    Nick Kyrgios starts his forehand swing by lifting his right elbow up to shoulder height, very much like Ivan Lendl, Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi who all used this method in the '80s and '90s.
    By lifting the elbow, the player creates space between the arm and body, space that gives the player more room to accelerate the racket head and also helps to stop the player from being jammed up at contact.
    The Racket Tip
    At the start of Nick Kyrgios' forehand swing, the tip of his racket is pointing towards the net, down the court. This is different from players like Roger Federer and Stan Wawrinka who will point the racket tip up to the sky at the start. When Nick reaches the back position, the racket tip will then point towards the right side of the court, increasing the range of motion in the arm and racket and allowing him to really crack the racket like a whip.
    The Swing Path
    Nick Kyrgios uses a very unique swing path on his tennis forehand, often he'll use a high to low swing which is the exact opposite of what many coaches teach on the forehand, which is the low to high swing path which helps players generate topspin by brushing upwards on the ball.

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  • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
    @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For more pro analysis videos of the best forehands in the world, check out our full Forehand Revolution course here - www.top-tennis-training.com/course/forehand-revolution/

    • @primerib
      @primerib ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you do a statistical comparison of the forehands of Fernando gonzales, del potro, Nick, Jack Sock and Federer? Like % of winners, average speeds etc

  • @quazimazeed3234
    @quazimazeed3234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    can you do a nick.k serve analysis

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      I did one a few years ago but if you get this comment to 100 likes, I'll make a new one!

    • @ArcheCane
      @ArcheCane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I feel the original video was mostly regarding the ball toss, I'd enjoy a new one too!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      100 likes on the lil guys comment and it's done

    • @Blazervitch
      @Blazervitch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      5 more likes

    • @quazimazeed3234
      @quazimazeed3234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2 more like

  • @razbenyamin7057
    @razbenyamin7057 5 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Can we get one on nicks backhand? No follow through but all his weight on it no? Maybe that’s why he returns so wel
    With it

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      100 likes on your comment and consider it done!

    • @razbenyamin7057
      @razbenyamin7057 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons impossible

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The guy who suggested I film the Kyrgios serve analysis got 100 likes in 10 days.
      Our latest video is due to his comment.

    • @razbenyamin7057
      @razbenyamin7057 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons I’ve never gotten more than 4 likes on a comment lol

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Come on guys, help Raz out!

  • @nexplusedinburgh5545
    @nexplusedinburgh5545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    So refreshing, to learn about the new modern forehands out there in the ATP tour.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @serveyourname5565
    @serveyourname5565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Coach, you're the only one who takes his forehand skills this seriously. NK should thank you for this charming analysis. I don't really like his forehand ground strokes, but I admit they look quite unique though. I wish I could combine Kyrgios with Niculescu so as to beat so many conventional hard hitters.

  • @lambey6113
    @lambey6113 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    love the lines on these courts

  • @Jdbsbjcj
    @Jdbsbjcj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    The secret for Kyrgios’ forehand is that he practices by throwing chairs.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Haha classic. I'd say it's more from the racket flinging that he does, when he tosses his frame like a whip.

    • @Asthfghl
      @Asthfghl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's good at throwing and breaking rackets, too.

    • @SRKarting
      @SRKarting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So funny :-)

    • @matthewshum9166
      @matthewshum9166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This real

    • @gareth_yt497
      @gareth_yt497 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still a good forehand

  • @TopSpinWilly
    @TopSpinWilly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks man. U r creating awareness. Knowledge makes the game more fun.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching William!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @georgeh6299
    @georgeh6299 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    thumbs up if you were waiting for this GUY in the video to hit it like Kyrgios

  • @atllzable
    @atllzable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is probably one of the most informative & helpful videos for me, personally..!! I constantly,...I mean CONSTANTLY struggle with grips and my forehand form..!! Thanks..!!!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @cryptomando
    @cryptomando 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'd like to see a video about sliding on hard courts. Also a video about best recovery methods after matched

  • @promitc2365
    @promitc2365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome. Only detailed analysis on this topic. Surprised it's not had more views. This is probably going to be the next evolution in forehand.

  • @mrAdalbehrt
    @mrAdalbehrt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations Simon, very good teacher

  • @ZontarThingFromVenus
    @ZontarThingFromVenus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the videos. Since you asked for possible future topics, could you do a video on redirecting ground strokes? Footwork, shoulder position, hitting zone, etc. Could be a good trailer-video for your ground stroke courses. Keep up the good work.

  • @Editor_Hound
    @Editor_Hound 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think Nick is the definition of "shooting from the hip", not just in his FH, but his overall play style.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching
      Any lessons you want to see from us in 2020?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @cryptomando
    @cryptomando 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Learned about some dynamics to the forehand.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @nighttrain7404
    @nighttrain7404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He also is 6'4" with amazing leverage. He's usually falling back and doesn't even have his weight in his shot like Federer and Nadal do. Imagine if he used all of his body.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @andrer3764
    @andrer3764 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fundamentally except for the inverted take back seems like it just is a regular modern FH except he has a fast arm and uses his kinetic chain well. Actually his inverted game back reminds me a bit of Roddick. Great video!!
    May not need to exaggerate as much but think having enough space on the FH is often overlooked

  • @nickg6826
    @nickg6826 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Do Thanasi Kokkinakis forehand analysis

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Get 100 likes on your comment and consider it done!

    • @xZOOMARx
      @xZOOMARx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a real banger that one

  • @mehdifavard
    @mehdifavard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow ! Awesome analysis ! And the clips help to visualize. Just discovered a great channel. :)

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching Mehdi and welcome to the TTT squad!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @gccomputos
    @gccomputos 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great Video and análisis !

  • @josephwesthill2174
    @josephwesthill2174 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I honestly think that Kyrgios changes his grip on the forehand sometimes. Normally he holds a Western, but there are times when he flattens out the ball, especially when on the run where he hits these massive passing shots, where it almost seems like it's a semi-western or even an eastern grip.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very well said, he does change grips!
      Even in this video, the running forehand he hits, he's using a semi-western and I have clips of him using an eastern. I spoke about this for the video but decided to leave it out as the video was so long already and spending the first five minutes on his grip didn't make sense.

    • @johanbrounts3906
      @johanbrounts3906 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons Hey Simon, a video purely on forehand power shots would be good e.g. Kyrgios changing grip with slap motion, Rublev ripping it (across shoulder?), Federer, Nadal and others finishing flatter across body. Show clips of different pros and how they all hit their forehand power shots. Just another idea to consider and unlikely to get 100 likes here as a reply 😝 cheers and keep up the awesome content!

  • @chrisnieto5547
    @chrisnieto5547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Useful vid for me. I'm a club player in his 50s. I hit for many years with an extreme western. After a 5 year gap from tennis I returned to the game and moved my grip round a bevel to a hybrid semi western/western. I think I'm my grip is very similar to Kyrios. Even that small change has meant hours and hours of balls on the court. I tuck my elbow in like the vid and hit a bit off the back foot for many shots with an open stance to get swivel. Its good to know that this is not a technical error. But I can see balance on this is essential.
    My Achilles heel is actually high balls which my grip should favour. I just can't hit through the ball.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is hard to hit through the ball with this grip, have you tried the semi-western?

    • @chrisnieto5547
      @chrisnieto5547 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Tbh I think I am pretty close to a semi western . My index knuckle is kind of on the 4th bevel. I can now flatten shots out more and have better power but still the high ball defeat me. Im sure its just my technique because better players have no problem.

  • @АннаФ-с7д
    @АннаФ-с7д 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Simon for another great video 👏👍👍

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @dwoo0418
    @dwoo0418 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Simon, do you see this forehand technique becoming the norm for the younger, next generation, of tennis players?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No, I think there will be many different styles of forehands in the future including his style but there will also be players who copy Federer's forehand, others who copy Del Potro, others who copy Sock etc

  • @wierdwabbitt
    @wierdwabbitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You sir are a genius 👏🏾

  • @gordogordo1698
    @gordogordo1698 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My tennis coach gives me grief for having the back side of my racket turned toward the net when I've taken the racket back. But here I see Nick doing it (just a lot better). Should I point out this video to my coach and try to hit like Nick or follow my coaches lead and get rid of this 'hitch"?

  • @ZX0815
    @ZX0815 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this, nice grass court by the way!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @liamrougebec783
    @liamrougebec783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for the great video! Just one question; when Nick is preparing his swing by holding the throat of the racket, is he controlling the racket with is off hand or main hand? Thank You!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The off-hand is holding 60-80% of the weight of the racket, this helps to keep the hitting arm loose

    • @liamrougebec783
      @liamrougebec783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thank you for the reply! So overall, the offhand is being used to move the racket, while the hitting hand is completely relaxed and not moving the racket at all during the takeback?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The hitting hand will have a role but at the very start, the off hand leads the way and then the hitting hand will take over. Build momentum with the off hand so your hitting hand can stay relaxed

  • @MrBones-bn7oo
    @MrBones-bn7oo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey alex, great vid! I was wondering, what racquet or strings i should use if I hit with both spin and flat shots?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I would experiment, test out different frames and strings.
      PS - I start and end the video by saying my name - Simon.

  • @elrombo4
    @elrombo4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Very well articulated in depth break down of his fh. I have an extreme western grip and try very hard to come closer to semi-western because the timing has to be so precise and the neutral stance is ruled out. But then again, half of my forehands are overhead banana swings, which come very naturally with this grip but I’m not sure are “bad form” or not.

  • @6daymember
    @6daymember 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great analysis. I love the depth that you give us here. I have tried to emulate this but tend to find i get too much spin and not enough penetration through the court. What might i be doing wrong?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sounds like you're brushing up on the ball too much, try to hit through the ball more

  • @osamaleonour2385
    @osamaleonour2385 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching Osama!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @1984leandro1984
    @1984leandro1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @berdi4berdi4
    @berdi4berdi4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think he uses full western or next gen grip. I don't see a semiwestern, except when he returns serve or blocks. Great analysis.

  • @psvlog9370
    @psvlog9370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video and cute court

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching
      Any lessons you would like to see in the coming months?
      All the best and stay safe
      Simon

  • @RVDS1996
    @RVDS1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you guys think of Shapovalov's forehand? Its kind of the same but not as an extreme grip. A very modern ATP forehand I would say. More likely to be copy than Nick's right?

  • @alexandrafilipov7922
    @alexandrafilipov7922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for that video! What kind of technique would you recommend for full western grips?

  • @Kyxul
    @Kyxul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What bezel does Nicks index finger go on for his grip? I don't understand different types of western grips etc haha. 🙃

  • @spartaktennis6884
    @spartaktennis6884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis! I really like it. Never try before to hit like Nick. I think it takes a lot of energy. That is why Nick plays not good in Grand Slams

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching
      Any lessons you want to see from us in 2020?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
    @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Does Nick Kyrgios have the biggest forehand on the tour?

    • @caseybanana8114
      @caseybanana8114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Delpo or Warwrinka as more consistent

    • @tennis47
      @tennis47 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jack sock' is better than his.

    • @TheTamrielDrunkard
      @TheTamrielDrunkard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Thiem has consistently had one of the fastest average mph on the forehead. Jack Sock and Delpo were both up there also.

    • @gekookeg3705
      @gekookeg3705 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it’s the most powerful

  • @gekookeg3705
    @gekookeg3705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful what pros can i get with this forehand?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you already use an extreme grips such as the western then this motion might help you get more power.
      Thanks for watching.
      Are there any lesson you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @PRiKoL1ST1
    @PRiKoL1ST1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jack Sock and Karen Khachanov forehand analysis please!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We break down both of those forehands inside our Forehand Revolution course.
      Get more info here - www.top-tennis-training.com/course/forehand-revolution/

  • @maciek_d
    @maciek_d 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @xiaoxiao8523
    @xiaoxiao8523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the factors you mentioned is the swing path, but I wonder if this applies to everybody...? Nick is about 2 meters tall, so would you say he has more leverage to hit with a high to low path given his height? I feel I am only able to hit with a high to low path if I contact the ball at shoulder height OR I am well inside the baseline, whereas if the ball is right around my striking zone, even a flat path will not bring the ball over the net...?

  • @andreip83
    @andreip83 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi guys. Very nice video! Kyrgios, Edmund, Khachanov forehands look very similar to me. I'll stick with my own forehand rather than try something like Nick's. To me having the racquet tip up and actually pushing a bit against the wrist (like Nadal a bit) helps me achieve the FH lag without hurting my wrist. Trying a FH grip like Nick's and not having perfect contact point and a heavy racquet seems like a recipe for injury (lots of vibrations).
    How about doing a video of Medvedev's shots (if you have the footage)? He seems to be at the other side of the spectrum, flat shots, though very consistent and clean.

  • @danwalsh3755
    @danwalsh3755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you do a video on this high elbow takeback with an eastern grip by mark philippoussis. The high elbow takeback with an eastern grip and the contact point way out in front and how his swing path does this?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let's get 100 likes on this comment and enough people to be interested in seeing that and we'll do it. IMO not many players would watch that video

    • @danwalsh3755
      @danwalsh3755 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial What about a Tsitsipas eastern grip forehand video?

  • @chrisnieto5547
    @chrisnieto5547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tutorial

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the support
      Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

    • @chrisnieto5547
      @chrisnieto5547 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Im just starting to play again after a break. I have a full western grip ( not sure how it ever got that extreme) but Im looking to move it to more of a semi western. This is easier than it sounds as I just start hitting balls over the fence!!!. I think a few people are in that position. Is be interested to see the best way to morph back.

  • @xizhuocao6541
    @xizhuocao6541 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe Simon did not pay attention to Nick's wrist movement, it plays a big role in his unique forehand.

    • @nicolasportu
      @nicolasportu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally true, is the fastest wrist movement on the tour. That's crucial to creates a massive top spin and huge velocity. I found myself hitting something like that with pros and cons. Perfect to control, avoid unforced errors, open angles and very easy to hit winners in short balls. Perfect for passing shots. Cons, yo have to play inside the court, from baseline the shots sometimes will be short. This shot often ends below net height. Not good for high balls either. You will break lots of racquet strings 😁

  • @stopinvadingmyprivacy8375
    @stopinvadingmyprivacy8375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these videos are super gooooooddd

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching
      Any lessons you want to see from us in 2020?
      All the best
      Simon

    • @stopinvadingmyprivacy8375
      @stopinvadingmyprivacy8375 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial A master class on how to hit with the western forehand would be helpful. This video was already pretty useful in that respect but deep dive would be nice.
      One of the pros at my club keeps trying to get me to switch to a semi western but I can't switch. Would love to have more power and consistency when hitting hard balls. I live in the US so mostly playing on hard courts.
      Also, you may have already done this, but guide to one handed backhand -- specifically adding more top spin to handle high balls -- would be nice too.
      Thank you for making these!

  • @subscribetonihgt
    @subscribetonihgt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    HEY EVERYONE Simon said he would give us a delpotro forehand analysis if this comment gets to 100 likes.

  • @mikefunkybass
    @mikefunkybass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think this position is better for a golf elbow than a Federer forehand style?
    I’m 5.0 , 44yrs old, my forehand is more like Thiem, but i’m struggling with a terrible GE since months. When i change my technique pointing the racquet to the ground and flexing lightly my elbow like Nick, i feel a bit better. What do you think ? ( obviously i already switched with a multi string ) thank you!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Federer's forehand is easier on the body overall and especially the arm/shoulder.
      This style stresses the shoulder and wrist way too much for my liking

  • @adrianyuen6162
    @adrianyuen6162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If you’re a beginner, please don’t try this forehand 😂

  • @felinesomyt8918
    @felinesomyt8918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What grip does nick use?

  • @dennistheron1499
    @dennistheron1499 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant analysis

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching Dennis!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @frandevel
    @frandevel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Simon, thanks for the video. There's something though, in which I see some contradiction: Nick creates the space by lifting the elbow, but later on, when about to hit the ball, if you take a look, he looses all this space, having the elbow again right next to the body. How do you see this?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very good question Fran.
      He creates space for the swing by lifting the elbow but then tucks it in due to his grip, it's hard to extend the arm when you have such an extreme grip.
      Federer, Nadal, Dimitrov all use either the eastern forehand grip or the semi-western which allows them to extend out much more at contact.

    • @frandevel
      @frandevel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Ok, great answer! So I can assume that if I use the full-western grip (that's the case) I should also be tucking the elbow in for better strokes. Right? Maybe that's the reason a loose control quite often when I extend the arm. Thanks a lot in advance!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For sure, a more tucked in elbow and having the contact point closer to the body should you help much more with the western grip

  • @tennis47
    @tennis47 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you ask him why he got a tennis elbow? caused by his forehand or serve,etc?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm on the phone dialling his number just now, is his number still 1800-tank-master?

    • @tennis47
      @tennis47 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Haha.

  • @marianpalko2531
    @marianpalko2531 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please, where can I find the slow motion videos of Nick that you used in this video?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's our footage that we filmed in NYC last week.
      What we have released is in this video

  • @JamesBond-ii6vb
    @JamesBond-ii6vb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool grass courts - where is the video shot?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Filmed in Oxford, UK

    • @JamesBond-ii6vb
      @JamesBond-ii6vb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Nice one. Are any tournaments hosted there? I love playing on grass. But the tournaments on that surface are few and far in between - really need to look for them.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not that I know of, in fact in the Oxford area, there aren't that many tournaments in general. In London there are plenty though

  • @luffy-senpai9089
    @luffy-senpai9089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm at a period with my forehand (it's a grip between eastern semi-western) where I can flatten out and produce big shots but I literally have very minimal spin, and when I accelerate up there's not a lot of arc so I can't hit a heavy ball oftern. How is it possible for a tournament level player with such a flat grip to hit vey heavy balls on the regular?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Racket head speed. Good fundamentals, using the legs etc
      At one level, players with all different styles of technique can start producing a fast hand (good racket head speed) and they can really rip the ball.

    • @luffy-senpai9089
      @luffy-senpai9089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks

  • @kemalyardmc6171
    @kemalyardmc6171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My friend your topic and explenation is nice but I believe you miss the most important part of speed producing in rocket head effortlessly. Most important point is how rocket hit the max reverse point that wrist allows just before front swing started and how he keep this coilled power through front swing and just before hit the ball release the power as he stop wrist front movement and transfer energy to head of racket. Without this all wrist action to back may only help to produce power meybe 1/10 of what he creates and means almost useless. Second thing in his style can be considered as a area to be improved as his wrist is not straight during front swing so the circle radius and speed can be maximised by straithening the wrist through uncoiling the trunk and through the forward swing. THis will be also minimise un necessary biceps muscle usage.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My brain fried trying to read that mate.
      But thanks for watching anyway

    • @kemalyardmc6171
      @kemalyardmc6171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are right topic is hard to explain by writing even ı speak in my language 😁 regards

  • @watcher687
    @watcher687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The question is how the hell can he flatten it out when he wants to with that extremish grip?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He changes his grip on those flat forehands, often using the semi-western or even eastern grip.

    • @TheTamrielDrunkard
      @TheTamrielDrunkard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@クリームイカ Yeah it happens. I hold a semi-Western but typically return with more of an Eastern grip

  • @josephwesthill2174
    @josephwesthill2174 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't really agree with the point you made about his follow through being the result of a ‘high to low swing path’. The clip you showed of his jumping forehand had him finishing across the shoulder whereas the clip of him at Wimbledon had him finish on his left hip off a waist/chest high ball. I think that the low follow through is a result of his bent elbow. At contact, his elbow is very bent and very close to his body. Through contact, his forearm seems to move across his body from the right hip to the left hip while his elbow stays still, in contrast to another of other players where the arm extends into the court more. Gael Monfils also has a similar swing path and follow through as Kyrgios.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Djokovic uses a bent elbow forehand, why does he finish over his shoulder or across his chest?
      Nole also uses an extreme grip.
      You're right about the swing I showed though, it was the only clip of him spanking a winner I could find. He does change his finish but in general, finishes down by his left oblique!

    • @josephwesthill2174
      @josephwesthill2174 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I am not saying that it is an inherent property of a bent-elbow or extreme-grip forehand for the finish to be at the left hip, and Djokovic certainly has a very textbook swing with the arm extending into the court and following through around the shoulder or neck. (btw I've never been that convinced that he hits with a Western) Cilic hits with an extreme grip and has an extended elbow with a traditional finish across the shoulder, so it is definitely possible for different grips and degrees of arm extension to produce different finishes. But certain players with very bent elbows during the forehand have this tendency to seemingly move the forearm across the body through contact and finish directly at the left hip. I think it has to do with a late contact point, facilitated by a bent elbow, that produces this kind of swing, rather than a 'high to low' swing path as mentioned by you in the video. Monfils is one example, Gulbis with his bizarre forehand also does that. Soderling also had a very low finish on the forehand.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The low finish tends to happen with players who use the extreme windshield wiper finish.
      But the swing path plays a direct role in this, Djokovic and Cilic have been taught to swing low to high, there is a reason they finish up.
      The other players have likely just developed a very fast swing without much guidance, I find it hard to believe a coach would be telling those players "Finish down by your left pocket"
      By finishing low, those players can really attack the higher and medium height balls and use the high to low or medium to low swings.

    • @josephwesthill2174
      @josephwesthill2174 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial How Gulbis ever developed his swing will always be a mystery 😂
      Btw where's he gone?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gulbis has gone back to being an eagle in the Rocky mountains.
      He's still competing but he's lost 17 matches this year and won only 6.
      Last win was in May, played US Open qualies but lost badly first round.

  • @TheTamrielDrunkard
    @TheTamrielDrunkard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not criticizing the choice because I understand the focus was on the preparation, but not seeing the contact with the ball for the first half of the video was absolutely driving me crazy! 😂

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha
      Thanks for watching!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

    • @TheTamrielDrunkard
      @TheTamrielDrunkard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Not sure if you've made one yet, but some videos talking about court positioning in singles/doubles. Break downs on footwork.. that kind of stuff would be great for me to show my students. I recommend your channel to all my students and it would be cool to be able to point them to those videos as well

  • @raysurx2010
    @raysurx2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A video dedicated solely to the great David Nalbandian Backhand stoke.

  • @gatodiabliyo7546
    @gatodiabliyo7546 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grip de Khrgios?

  • @RocketMan-zc9jr
    @RocketMan-zc9jr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why cant a player just change his grip from eastern to western for the high shots?

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Loss of feel for the shot. It's hard to constantly change between grips without a huge drop in your accuracy and consistency

  • @andyiswandy1955
    @andyiswandy1955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is Future Forehand, i think Nick Kyrgios have good Forehand, i like it...

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @Alex-fk3ni
    @Alex-fk3ni ปีที่แล้ว

    You make it so complicated when in fact it's so simple. Nick is just whiping the ball with his racket. He does NOT do racket flip (lag) intentionally. It's just "side effect" of the whip. That's it.

  • @J3llo3
    @J3llo3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get easy power when I copy this forehand

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!
      Any lessons you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

  • @gibcoprobe66
    @gibcoprobe66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't agree about the part of the use of the left hand. Most top players, keep their left hand on the racquet for a pretty long time after the unit turn so there is nothing unique about Nick for that.

  • @choppopo7800
    @choppopo7800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need subtitles in Spanish :c

  • @chrismanteris9093
    @chrismanteris9093 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:41 this is not what nick is doing (making a loop) he is basically dropping the racquet down and back- no loop

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does Nick start low or high?

    • @chrismanteris9093
      @chrismanteris9093 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      At 5:41 you make a loop. Nick drops the racquet down and back- no loop

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My demo wasn’t perfect, but Nick starts high and drops down - a loop!

    • @chrismanteris9093
      @chrismanteris9093 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Tip of the racquet does not make a loop however in your demo it does. Follow the tip of the racquet

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrismanteris9093 I said my demo wasn't good, at that moment, but his tip starts pointing down the court, then goes up, then drops, then forward. A loop. Even Stevie Wonder could see that

  • @petesampras4632
    @petesampras4632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great forehand but nowhere near as good as mine!!! Get good

  • @antikgyrios4510
    @antikgyrios4510 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn’t do it because Kgyrios kept getting elbow problem. Must be his very light racquet. No wonder he doesn’t train much. Pretty sure he doesn’t care as long as he get paid.

  • @bookwormmichelle
    @bookwormmichelle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First

  • @jakegargiulo5101
    @jakegargiulo5101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His forehand always makes me uncomfortable

  • @jhondoe6735
    @jhondoe6735 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He practice a lot when he was a teenager.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Many players practice a lot as teenagers but never develop a lethal forehand…

  • @kadumedina9825
    @kadumedina9825 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why I would like to hit a forehand like nick kyrgios ? I mean ok, he's ATP player, but man, his technique is horrible, he hits with flex elbow, his legs are not in the right position. It's the same that create myself a wrong addiction in a swing, and be known as a technique. Because my point is that tennis professors try to teach us the most perfect way to do it ,( like federer ), because if they let us hit and swing by ourselves, then we would be like kyrgios.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Many players who are the "next gen" use a similar style of forehand to Nick, lifting with the elbow, extreme grip, high to low follow through. It's an option and I would not teach this style of shot to a junior, however, people have requested this video so I delivered!
      I much prefer the Federer forehand myself, but some youngers players admire Nick more!

    • @kadumedina9825
      @kadumedina9825 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm really glad you answer. It's not a criticism about your video, it's about the game style itself, because when I watch or play tennis, it's for the beauty of the techniques also. As you said about the next gen, unfortunately it's true, I wonder how long till we have someone like federer's technique, you can say it's impossible, but for me dimitrov's is the most similar. The question is why next gen are hitting with elbow flex.
      Ps: love your tips and videos, keep doing it !

  • @drewnico3271
    @drewnico3271 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So ugly.... but so good ......never seen a player with such a strange forehand hit so hard......

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said, one of the reasons I wanted to make this video.
      So unique, so strange, yet so powerful.

    • @GeorgeHWBush-jt8yz
      @GeorgeHWBush-jt8yz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Drew N it’s like Khachanov, it’s unique, strange but he can hit it so hard

    • @watcher687
      @watcher687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What’s ugly about it? It’s just a natural side throwing motion. Federer’s is uglier if you think about it that way! No one would throw a stone like him, not even himself. Go throw something like a tennis ball and see if your elbow would move like Nick’s or Federer’s. It’s very natural and normal to bring the elbow up for a good side arm throw.

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Yucel - The difference is, you're not throwing a ball, you're impacting something.

    • @watcher687
      @watcher687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons
      Yeah that’s obvious but to impact the ball you’re throwing the racket at the ball. In that sense I see overhead throwing and side arm throwing as very similar motions to serve and forehand.

  • @allandickman774
    @allandickman774 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who cares he behaves like a child

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This video has nothing to do with his on-court antics, simply his technique.
      We covered his antics in this video on our Love Tennis channel - th-cam.com/video/9kpaNDBZ3Jk/w-d-xo.html

  • @Purallax
    @Purallax 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Disliked video too many forehands

  • @victorfernandez7908
    @victorfernandez7908 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    horrible tennis forehand

  • @instructionsuncleargotdick334
    @instructionsuncleargotdick334 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would u say Kyrgios's forehand style is easy to copy? Like as whip and with semi-western?
    I saw a vid on this by PlayYourCourt but yours is a lot better, since u actually put the theory in practice.
    Keep the great work up!

    • @TopTennisTrainingOfficial
      @TopTennisTrainingOfficial  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think if someone is at an advanced level already, say a 5.0 or above in the US, and they have an extreme grip, this forehand technique might be an easy way for them to get more power. Leading with the elbow, pointing the tip towards the net then the right side and the high to low swing on high and medium height balls.
      Thanks for watching Ron!
      Are there any videos you'd like to see from us in the near future?
      All the best
      Simon

    • @instructionsuncleargotdick334
      @instructionsuncleargotdick334 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial can u make a video on forehand slice?
      I feel like it's an overlooked shot.
      I feel awkward whenever I try to hit it. Have u already made one? Thanks