Porch Roof Framing & Shingles - How To
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This was a quick shed roof build to cover my air compressor and dust collection system.
It has been too cold to paint so I pre-assembled and painted as much as I could in the shop. Then brought the components out to build it as quickly as possible.
I think it went relatively well.
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Dude! EVERYONE needs to use the same time lapse. You just became one of my favorites to watch. Thanks again!!
Thanks!
awesome! the time lapse was at a perfect speed. nice work!
Thanks!
Just found this channel and wanted you to know how perfect these videos are. Just enough explanation and nothing extra and they aren't overly drawn out. Your carpentry work is just as good as your video production as well.
Wow, thank you!
I'm totally saving this for future reference tons of tips and tricks. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for watching!
Kv
Lots of good tricks in there. Nice video!
Thanks!
This is perfect! Setting the ledger support to make it one person job is excellent.
Thanks!
Should inspire plenty of builds, you showed that with a bit of thought and effort you'll get a great worthwhile result. Two up thumbs!
Thanks Scott!
YScott Turner
as always masterly done!!
Thank you!
What an amazing DIY roof for over the porch, patio, or side of the house. The cement floor is excellent for our gang box and grill storage 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Such organization for storing materials too. I love your work thank you Creative King 👑 awesome way to do your thing thanks I'll definitely be sharing this with my Creative King 👑❤️👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed.
I'm building a cover for my deck and don't have much help, your tips have me ready to get home and continue my project.
That's great!
Awesome! ... Really great tip for pre-building the main roof deck and supporting it off of pivoting posts. Thanks mate.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice build, so I understand, you got the pitch from cutting the beams inside the frame at and angle? Is it always advisable to build the frame first? I'm building a small version of this behind my garage so I can keep my motorcycle outside, Can you advise me on what I should use as support beams when its just sitting on the ground and not attached to a concrete base like yours?
If it's smaller than my project a 4x6 beam should do. As for the footings you could probably use a couple of pier blocks or dig and pour them. Building the frame first is not necessary. If your existing structure is irregular it my be better to cut each rafter to fit. Good luck and be safe!
I need to make a video of some of my work man. Im not a pro. Just been doing hands on craftsmanship since i learned to widdle wood with my grandparents as a child. Your way of work is so fluid with the braces and self help without getting a helper is similar to mine. Quick easy and simple compared to alot of people ive watched. Good video
Thanks! Making videos is a great way to share what you know. You should do a few and see if you like it.
That was an awsome video and pretty informative for someone like myself who spent 24yrs in the Army and now when the wife asks I try my best to build or upgrade whatever portion of our home. I took a single story ranch that was made into an office building and re designed by taking the reception area out and making a walk in closet in the master as well as inclosing the front porch into the master bedroom adding about 4' to it and then on the opposite side of the walk in closet I made her I made a pantry the same size and made a barn door with rolling hardware for the pantry. Now I am thinking about putting a covered front porch on but am a little scared of the process if that makes sense? I was afraid to do the other things as well since my career was military and not construction but I love doing it.
Any advice for the front porch?
Thanks Jim! Sounds like a fun and large project on your hands! It's tough to give advice on any given project because they can vary so much. I would say to start looking at other residential construction for reference. There is a lot to be learned from just looking at other structures. Also look for some books on basic framing. After you have a good understanding of the basic principles of framing you should have no trouble designing you covered porch.
Beautiful video!!! 💪🏻
Thank you!
Thank you for detailed video. Where is the flashing? Was the flasing a retrofit install? Any images or design approach that could provide details on the transition from wall siding to roofing? Thank you
In my situation there was a ledger board that already had flashing. So, I built the roof just under the flashing to allow the roofing to slide under. If you have just a wall then you may have to cut a slot to install the flashing. But I have seen people install "L" shaped flashing against the wall and seal it with a good sealant. Then a trim is installed over the flashing on the wall, and the top of the trim is sealed too.
Great job! But wait a minute. What are you standing on when you're walking on the rafters? It looks like there's boards underneath your feet but we can't see them. Like around 1:27.
It's the beam that I installed at 1:06
Nice work.
Thanks!
Great vid!
Thanks!
awesome bro, i have a question for you, do you know the recommended pitch or slope for a roof with shingles, thanks in advance
I think the minimum pitch for asphalt shingles is 3/12. If you want to know for your specific shingle brand it is usually listed in the instructions.
Great job 👍 about how much would something like that cost
2.5. Is the minimum.
I would recommend 3.5 as a base line number.
My house is a 8-12. Roof was on 35 years.
I just removed and install base sheet using cap nails.
FYI I’m 58 and need roofing 38 years.
Word of advise for anyone doing a roof.
Install min 30 # felt like this guy.
I was wondering if the support posts could be positioned more to the corners of the roof? I was thinking of using wrought iron posts to make corners? Wondering if it's a stability thing where the posts should be placed.
I put the posts in a location that I thought would look pleasing and match the construction of the rest of the building. As long as your beam is strong enough to handle the load in the span of your application it should fine to install them located at the ends of the beam. I didn't use knee braces from the posts to the beam in my application because the roof was so small and I it seemed to me that the plywood provided enough triangulation. But if your application doesn't have a the same strength then knee braces might be necessary. Also, remember that I don't have any more information about your application than what is in your comment. So, it is tough to make any kind of determination as to what will be safe. It's best to follow local building codes because there may be seismic and wind considerations that will play a role in the safety of you structure.
I like the first part of how you got the roof up by yourself using the temporary legs as leverage. What a great technique. Is it standard in the US or is it building code for roofing structures to always have plywood followed by asphalt and shingles as your roofing system? I see this a lot in US building videos.
It's pretty common. There are other systems that meet code. But this is typical. For buildings where the underside doesn't show cosmetically We will often use O.S.B. sheets (oriented strand board) instead of plywood.
If i was building a roof my deck. Do i really need to used flashing where the roof shingles meet the side of the house?
That depends. Some locations may be okay without flashing. But if you want to be sure not to have a leak you should use it.
excellent job / video thanks'
Thanks for watching!
Great job 👍🏾look easy.
Thanks!
Good job. Thanks.
What size is this roof?
Thanks! I think it's about 14' wide by about 5' deep.
Well done!
Thanks!
Great job! Did you use 2x4 or 2x6 for the rafters..? Also, was the board you attached to the garage to support the rafters a 2x6? Thanks!
I used 2x6's for the rafters and the support ledger.
Make Build Modify ok cool. Thanks a lot!
Awesome job, You make it look too easy. Thanks so much for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Great job 👏 I’m planning on maybe attempting this for my moms house. After you watched the video how long did it take you? Also including paints and cutting prep work you did in the garage?
I think I built it over a three day weekend. I build the rafter assembly inside the garage one day, painted it and let it dry the second day, then build the roof on the third day. But they were all short days, maybe 4 or 5 hours each. I poured the slab well before the roof framing and I considered it to be separate project.
@@Makebuildmodify Thank you for replying! sharing the time it took you to build will me decide it should tackle this project. Thanks again from your new subscriber. Can’t wait to see more projects in the future
Very good video / work.
Thanks!
The supporting posts can I use cement posts the kind that used on decks ?
It depends on how large your porch is. I think that they would be okay on my project in the video. But you do have to consider your local codes too.
Great video
Thanks!
great job. tree just fell through my porch so I've got this ahead of me
Oh, man. Sorry to hear it.
Inspiring video...thanks
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the feedback!
Is it ok to store wood outside like that? I'm considering building an extension roof like this to cover lumber attached to the side of the shed.... thoughts ? Do I even need to build a roof over the top or can it just stay out in the elements ? (I'm in the N.E. - lots of snow/rain, etc)
I'm in the Northwest, rain in the winter and hot in the summer. I store recycled framing lumber outside under a cover of some type. If the lumber is for furniture or something of that sort I store it inside.
So do you put the screws through your siding when installing the frame?
The frame was screwed to the tan 2" x 6" trim board in this case. The trim board was fastened to the studs of the wall so I knew it was strong enough. If you're fastening to your wall through siding you need to find the studs.
what's the minimum distance between 4x4 braces? how do you calculate the load for 2 braces vs. 3?
That depends on the load. It can vary due to the winter snow load and the type of shingles.
Great job! I will do the same for our patio. What is the angle of you roof?
I think it was about a 3/12 slope. So about 15 degrees.
Just used this concept to shelter a lawn tractor. Wifey is seriously impressed.
Nice!
This was very informative. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
is the tan ledger fastened to the house studs through sheathing ?
Yes.
Great video, very doable. I've got an already installed patio cover ... its framed in 2x4's, rafters 24" on center, as well as (I don't know the proper term but) framing in between the rafters perpendicular every 30", the whole thing resting on 3 steel post. It currently has plastic panels, but I'd really like plywood and shingles. Roofer didnt think 2x4s were substantial enough to support a roof, but I don't see why not. Thoughts?
It depends. What is the span of the rafters?
@@Makebuildmodify 12ft.
@@joeny1980 That seems like it might need another beam to cut the span in half. A bundle of shingles is about 80 pounds and covers about one 4x8 sheet of plywood. So you can see there is a extra weight to consider. Here is a span calculator www.awc.org/codes-standards/calculators-software/spancalc
Any snow load?
Roof sheathing, do u start at the top or bottom when installing
Start at the bottom.
Wow...lots of tips and idea here. Good job..nice.
Glad you liked it!
Nice. I built one over my garage door for my dogs. I just wished you showed more how you tied the rafters and flashing to the side of the house; that was the hardest part for me.
Yes, I wish I spent more time filming this one. I was still learning how to document a build when I made this video. I may do another one with more detail sometime.
My hubby is adding a four foot long by a half sheet of plywood wide roof extension over our back door prior to siding going up. He is struggling attaching it properly. He is an over thinker which is awesome but...wish you live closer I would be giving you a request. :)
Use a Hammer Drill with anchors to the studs from the ledger board. The way its done building from scratch is anchoring the ledger board first. Then use hangers to tie in the rafters to the ledger board.
Great job. Wished I could get a better look at the flashing.
Sorry, I should have done a close up.
an important part of the roof install, for me, is the angle of the cut you made that sits against the ledger board and how you measured it. DIYers need this info.
This roof was about 15 degrees. But on a shed roof it can be whatever you want it to be. You could even hold a stick of lumber at the slope you wanted and use a level to draw a plumb ( vertical ) line at the end. Then you could use a speed square or framing square to get the angle and proceed to copy it over to all of the rest of the rafters. As long as it looks good to you and the rafters are all the same it's fine.
Did you let the roof walk of forwards? It looks like it but when you make the deck how mutch did you cut 1 side of the beams? 5° of 10°
The roof rafters were cut at about 15°. I hope I'm answering your question.
Yes thankyou im using brackets on the wall side. Is it then still necessary to cut the other side of the rafter at an 15°
No it's not necessary. But it's a good idea if you ever want to install gutter.
So I don't need to cut birdsmouths? I want to add a porch to my two story and there's already a ledger board because it has a little one foot roof. I'm taking it out to ten feet. I was gonna cut one rafter and copy it then build it one by one. I may try it similar to this if I can figure it out.
If you look closely near the beginning of the video you can see that I cut birdsmouths into all the rafters. However, in some cases, you can skip cutting birdsmouths, usually on shallow sloped roofs. It really depends on the circumstances.
Very informative thanks 🙏
You bet! Thanks for watching.
Yeah. This video 100% inspired me to make an overhang off my garage. Thanks for the video!
That's Awesome! Good luck!
When you built ur frame what angle did you cut those boards in order for it to have that slope?
I used a 4/12 slope which is about 15 degrees.
Do you have a better picture on the L shape supports you put roof on?
Sorry, I only have the video for this one
perfect pool pump and heater cover, will make one to keep away from elements. Thank you.
You bet! Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching and commenting. It really helps the channel.
I poured a 20x8 concrete porch front part of my house. Would I need a permit to just add something like this?
That would be a question for you local building authority. Sorry I can't give you a better answer. Thanks for watching!
Amazing
Thanks!
Are the 2x4s that you pre-assembled and attached to the wall cut at an angle? How do you figure the angle given the slope of the roof?
2x6 rafters i meant
Yes, they are cut at an angle. About 15 degrees for this roof. My speed square video covers a little of this. th-cam.com/video/BBJHQNR05xo/w-d-xo.html
You rock! Thank you! This video helped me so much with my add on!! Be well!
You're so welcome!
What is the angle or pitch that you used for you roof
I used a 3/12 slope. I think it's about 15 degrees.
Should you not have flashing under the siding and transitioning to the top of the new roof addition? I only ask because I'm building a porch and confused about the water proof transition? Btw great time lapse video!
Thanks! In my case there was flashing on top of the tan ledger that was on the existing building. So I tucked the shingles under. But it depends on your circumstance as to whether you need flashing or not. I don't get much snow where I live but a lot of rain in the winter. My porch roof is kind of tucked up under another eave which protects the new porch roof connection to the building. It really doesn't get a lot of rain up by the connection. I only flashed it because I could.
If you need to flash yours, sometimes you can cut a slot in the existing building and install a flashing that comes straight out and bends down at the slope of your roof. This requires that you seal the flashing to the existing building with a good sealant. Vulkem High-Performance Polyurethane is great for this. It's paintable too, which is better than silicone. Link to Vulken: amzn.to/2BhVZ6t (affiliate links help the channel at no extra cost to you)
Good luck!
This is excellent idea
Thanks!
GREAT JOB....
Thanks Sandra!
Awesome!
Thanks!
That video you show is great!!! I'm learning a lot it thinks I don't have before... The other question is how can locate if my roof garage is liking? Thank you ....upload more videos...
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Nice!!!
Thanks!
I need to see how to install head wall flashing, for this exact situation. Thanks 🙏
This site has some good examples: www.nachi.org/flashing-part2-13.htm
Thank you for posting. Nice looking roof - nice video as well.
Thanks!
Another great video. One question, what type of fasteners did you use for the shingles?
Looks like a finish nailer, not a shingle nail gun.
I used a Senco PW Roofing stapler. It shoots 1" wide staples. But it's been replace by the SENCO WC200XP -- amzn.to/2vElewg
Damm brother, you're quick!!!😂😂😂😂😂👍👍
Ha! Thanks!
I built a shed with these plans from Ryan [ Details Here?> *WoodBlueprints. Com* ] . The instructions were clear and easy to implement. Even a novice can be able to build fast using this plan. I'm happy I bought the plan. It also saved me much cost.
Here in northern California, I admire your ideas and your work. What I'm looking for is ideas for fireproof construction; metal and stone. It's frustrating when living in a residential neighborhood. It the neighbors are burning, chances are my place will burn too, so why bother; use wood?
I'm in southern Oregon. So we've had our share of fire and smoke too. So I know exactly what you mean. Unfortunately I'm not much of a mason.
Was there a gap between ledger and roof because of pitch of roof 8 17 23
No, because I cut the rafter to match.
At what degree of angle to cut boards for a porch
That depends. If you're using asphalt shingles the roof slope should be no less than a 3/12. (About 15 degrees).
Did you cut your 2x4 at a 30° degree angle?
I think it was closer to a 18.5° degree angle. It was a 4/12 slope.
Just found this, going to make a small one behind the garage for firewood. Pretty much the same thing as you
Have fun!
Nice. But all that for ac unit.?
Dust collection and an air compressor.
What is the sheet that is laid on the plywood
Tar paper then shingles.
for the part you already had preassembled , u used 4x4 posts and used 2x4s for rafters, ledger and top plate/nailer don't know the name of that, ? im doing same thing but wanted to know could I do that same way? the rafters are sitting on a 2x4?
Here are the dimensions of this roof:
2x6 rafters (about 4' span), --- probably could span 8'
4x4 posts, 4x6 beam (about 8' span),
2x6 ledger(fastened 2 screws every 2')
Roof pitch is 3/12. In other words it rises 3" for every 12" of run.
@@Makebuildmodify im doing a porch awning 3.5' long and 4' wide, could I just use 2x4s for beam and ledger since so small or no? beam would be sitting on 4x4s posts similar to yours
@@Eastbaypisces A 4x4 beam would be better. If you're stuck with 2x4s then turn them up so the 3.5 inch dimension is vertical.
@@Makebuildmodify so how did you connect your rafters to your ledger? screws or lag screws? and same as the bottom to beam? u don't need to do birdsmouth cut or use hangars?
@@Eastbaypisces I used screws to fasten all of my framing. I didn't use any hangers. But I did make birdsmouth cuts for where the rafters meet the beam.
what is the angle of the pitch?
This was a 3/12 slope or about 14.5 degree plumb cut.
Did this require a permit where you're from?
No, in the county that I live in we can build roof under 120 sq. ft. without a permit. It's easy to call your local building department and ask.
How did you learn how to move so quickly???
practice.
Sure is nice when you post a video, looks great!
Thanks!
Nnaats
nice video !!! i have to re roof my patio roof because it developed some leaks and rotted wood they say because i used shingles and felt as you did... instead of the roll asphalt with a membrane on such a low pitch roof... are they full of it? ... or maybe bad flashing ....incorrect lining up of shingles.....low spots causing pooling.....what the heck it was not my orginal install and is about 20 years old..... so i am going toreplace the wood sheets, and add some stringers, paint the up side refelt and reshingle... do it your way and i will be 81 years old if it fails again.... ha ha ...thanks !!!
Awesome to hear! Thanks!
You put the support posts directly on the concrete??
I used metal stand-off brackets.
Thank you! Definitely following this video when i build mine!
@@kjrobinson1728 Cool! Take you time and be safe.
Thanks so much, I’ll get my son to help too. Wish me luck!
@@kjrobinson1728 good luck!
Great video. How do you go about setting out a porch roof when all you have is width and length of the run? Just wondered how you work out the header plate to the height of the posts. I’m starting from a header plate and unsure how to work out what the post heights should be. It’s going to be a 5 degree pitch with rafters with a plastic corrugated roof. 👍🏼
Thank you
A 1/12 slope is almost 5 degrees. So, that would be one inch of rise for every 12 inches of run. For example, if the outside of the support beam (the side farthest away from the building) is 48 inches from the wall then the roof will climb (rise) 4 inches relative to the beam. If you have a tail beyond the beam it will fall and the same rate and it must be calculated by using the run of the eave and the added to the total rafter length.
So the basic formula would be, the slope as a fraction times the run of the structure (1/12 slope ~ 5 degrees). Example: ------> 1 / 12 * (RUN in inches) = (RISE in inches). So let's say you have a 5 foot run or 60 inches. This is what it would look like: 1" / 12" * 60" = 5". Here's another example without an easy RUN distance: 1" / 12" * 121.75" = 10.14" (RISE of about 10" - 1/8" ). It's important to remember that this is only the distance from the wall of the existing structure to the outside of the support beam/wall. If there is a ledger on the wall then it's thickness has to be accounted for. Also, if there is an eave beyond the support wall/beam you have to account for that.
@@Makebuildmodify thank you so much 😊
Great job, great video and editing unlike the usual Utube clowns who yak for 15 minutes and work for 3 minutes in an 18 minute video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
What about the pitch? How do you determine the pitch?
The roof pitch is determined by counting how many inches the roof rises of every 12 inches of run. For example, if your roof has a vertical change in height of 8 inches for every 12 inches of horizontal travel it would be considered an 8/12 pitch. The 12 is always there when you use this standard. If your roof rise 4 inches for every 12 inches of run then it a 4/12 pitch.
@@Makebuildmodify I understand that applies when doing Gable, or Hip style roofs, but can't seem to connect the dots using that formula with a simple slope coming off of an existing structure. I'm assuming as long as it's sloped somewhat in order to allow water to run off and away from the structure, there's no formula needed to make this type of roof?
Most slopes will shed water. But most asphalt shingles are made for a 3/12 or steeper pitch. But as long as you pick an angle for all of your ridge and tail cuts and be consistent it should work. A 5/12 pitch is 22.5 degrees and most chop saws have that as one of the presets. So that might be a convenient way for you to do it.
To help you visualise, a shed roof is the same as one half of a gable roof. If you view it from the end, the highest point of the roof is in contact with the existing structure at the same point where the peak of a gable roof would be.
So for example, take a shed roof that is 5 feet out from the existing structure and has an eave starting 8 feet of the ground. It will rise from the eave to the point where it contacts the existing structure. If you use a 5/12 pitch it you contact the wall 25 inches higher than the eave. This is because the slope rises 5 inches for every 12 inches of run. The example roof has 5 ft. of run so it rises 5 inches 5 times making 25 inches.
great
Thanks!
Thank you for posting. Great tips.
+wahinenuiloa you're welcome. Thank you for watching! I hope it was helpful.
Excellent video thanks
Thank YOU for watching!
I built one similar to this over my A/C units. Mine was a bit higher, so the units could expel hot air properly. This “lean to”design is quite easy to do and a simple option where a roof system is needed. Nice work sir.
Thanks Alan!
Thank you, good job!!
Thanks!
Did you use lag bolts for the ledger? or 3" screws?
+wahinenuiloa I used 3" screws.
Love the work but i need space for my tractor lawnmowers snow blowers lol etc.....
Super size it!
Wow! ❤️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks!
Thanks, Scott. I am looking for ideas to build my own patio roof.
Cool! I hope it helped. ```
PERFECT Video man. Sped up, with voice over, and even a picture in picture in the corner. Too many videos out there are over kill. This was great man. I'm Subscribed!
Thanks!
how much you paid for building control development
My local building code allows for this size of structure to be built with almost no building fees.
U Remind me of Ryan Reynolds 😊 smart man u r....
Ha! Thanks Jon!
That was fast! Lol 😁🤭
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