Stuck and Discouraged In Recovery

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  • @annkonzal6724
    @annkonzal6724 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Please everyone .... please hang on and keep going. Our sweet daughter is struggling so hard. She knows intellectually that she will get better, most days her body tells her differently. Please dont give up.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      🙏🏻 it gets better. Yes, just keep going. I’m so sorry for your daughter.

  • @glynhayes5930
    @glynhayes5930 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I felt this way 4 months ago.. but have improved a lot from then to now which can be hard to fathom because I was in a bad place between year 4-4.75 years and all of a sudden it let up. I’m always cautious putting this stuff out cause that’s when life kicks ya.. but I understand people others need encouragement. 5 years in a couple of weeks, I’m still symptomatic, but all of a sudden I can do things I couldn’t all last year.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for the update! This happens to people and I think it helps others feel less alone, or that they’re doing something wrong. I wish you continued healing. ❤️‍🩹

    • @14skmw46
      @14skmw46 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Things can change so quickly but it's hard in the waiting

  • @22sevier
    @22sevier 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I needed to hear this. I am 31 months off and while some symptoms are less intense, others have been constant. Most days feel hopeless, but I push through each day hoping for better days soon.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Keep trucking my friend!

    • @kellyjofrey4192
      @kellyjofrey4192 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Almost 4 years free and I still have minor issues, it takes time!

    • @Noir-sr5bw
      @Noir-sr5bw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm 28 months I feel stuck my head is frozen up qnd dpdr I hope t I is getting better I'm scared

  • @Cymanable
    @Cymanable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Dan thank you so much!! This is the right video at the right time. I am now 3 years off and i feel exactly like you said. It helped so much. You made my day. Man I love you.

  • @yetinssonl1885
    @yetinssonl1885 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @philosophicalfishing Omg Dan. This is exactly how im feeling right now. Thank you so much 🌱

  • @MAÇOMCRIPTO
    @MAÇOMCRIPTO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've been benzo free for 50 months, and it really seems like the healing progress is stuck. I've been taking it for 27 years. The fatigue is so intense some days that I can barely stand.

  • @tinalapoint9294
    @tinalapoint9294 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm so exhausted from this valium taper, my God I'm so over it 😢😢😢

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’ve been a damn trooper too! It’s so daunting sometimes

    • @joeroux5178
      @joeroux5178 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I started running after 6 months off. It’s so freaking hard. I was also on Valium. Tapered for 2 years. It was difficult but if I can give you some advice. Start with running or gym or something right now in your taper period. Because when you jump it’s hectic to do any type of getting fit.

  • @bobbobarino6213
    @bobbobarino6213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is exactly where I am at currently. It takes time and patience is my enemy. Thanks Dan I needed to hear this. Keep going Bob dammit wake up. lol

  • @corvettedm1
    @corvettedm1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I went cold turkey from Klonopin 4 years ago. Now my heart is in failure because of the insomnia. I’m sure there are other reasons but I rarely slept. I admire you all that worked and managed things in your lives through this huge challenge! Congratulations!

    • @MattRinehart-e4e
      @MattRinehart-e4e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Heart in failure ? Can you explain further

    • @corvettedm1
      @corvettedm1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MattRinehart-e4e Hello, of course. Klonopin cold turkey withdrawal is a dangerous thing. A human being can survive without food for over a week. Surviving without sleep will cause changes in the body that can be fatal. During the year after stopping the drug I had many issues with vertigo and confusion. I would fall down without warning or a dizzy feeling. I would just drop. Sleep restores bodily function and is vital for major organs to renew themselves. For three years I rarely slept at all. I didn’t have any sleep to escape the withdrawal misery. I live by myself and it was frightening to say the least. After about the 6th time my body ‘dropped me’ I went to an ER. Scans showed a calcified aorta and non alcoholic fatty liver. Never had I had issues of this type before. I have had melanoma, so I was checked every year for that.
      I tried to eat a decent diet during that misery, but often I just couldn’t eat at all. I had stress that was off the charts from family concerns, too. All that was too much for my heart. There is not much anyone can do. The aorta issue lent itself to the CHF I now have. I was unable to do anything while in active withdrawal. Nothing. Hope this helps! I’m Diane

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙏🏻❤️‍🩹

    • @LanceJones-mh7tz
      @LanceJones-mh7tz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Long term insomnia from this is the cruelest symptom. I haven’t slept in 25 months and I can feel my body and mind falling apart. I also feel that you can never make up the sleep debt that you accrue from it and you slowly lose your mental capacity. I’ve given up on recovery now and I am just waiting for the inevitable end. To those that didn’t get long term insomnia, count yourself lucky and know that you will probably recover.

    • @MattRinehart-e4e
      @MattRinehart-e4e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LanceJones-mh7tz how long you been on them ? And how long off ?

  • @MrPeterISABELLA
    @MrPeterISABELLA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dan the man the brilliant benzo man.....

  • @JasonBrown-dd7dj
    @JasonBrown-dd7dj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your a good man,thank you you know suffering you got character fair play.

  • @Noir-sr5bw
    @Noir-sr5bw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This dpdr no emotions I feel so struck here I'm 27 mo ths. Will it get better

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’m so sorry. It can be terribly difficult.❤️‍🩹

    • @kellyjofrey4192
      @kellyjofrey4192 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It will!

    • @rebelbeaute1441
      @rebelbeaute1441 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kellyjofrey4192did you get past this?

    • @Noir-sr5bw
      @Noir-sr5bw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rebelbeaute1441no I stay the same it changes but it's tge same sxs it's hard to explain.

  • @sylviaramer9466
    @sylviaramer9466 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dan, this could not have come at a better time. I relate to everything you said and feel encouraged by your reassurances. Thank you so much for reaching out to all of us the way you do.

  • @MoiraMastragostino-ul4dt
    @MoiraMastragostino-ul4dt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video Dan! It's so easy to get discouraged. I often feel discouraged and stuck so thanx for this video as we often need to be reminded and encouraged that we do eventually heal.

  • @jimferrill1790
    @jimferrill1790 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Here I am about 70 days later and am finding nuggets in this video, again. Thanks for posting Dan. I am exhausted these days. But.....I used to get exhausted by mental challenges in addition to physical challenges. Now I don't have those instances where I would just give up as I found many mentally complicated challenges, "Unmanageable." I would have to lie down. Now I don't have them. If something becomes unmanageable I soldier through it. Like the dishes or a long walk.

  • @evanm6804
    @evanm6804 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks Dan and for all the comments below. I just had this exact conversation with my friend this morning. I am only 6 months off benzos but am frustrated. While it pains me to hear you had this feeling 3 years out, at least I know I may be over ambitious at this time and I'm not alone.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely not alone. Also, there were some beautiful moments and days all along the way. Maybe not super early on, but certainly throughout my first 3 years.

    • @kellyjofrey4192
      @kellyjofrey4192 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don’t give up! You’ll learn to recognize the milestones!

  • @tamaciousK
    @tamaciousK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Exactly what I needed to hear today, kinda right where I'm at - thank you so much for sharing!

  • @nwicconsultants6640
    @nwicconsultants6640 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you Dan...the right video for the right time. Sat down now and saw notification of your video. Always a pleasure listening to your words of encouragement but today was especially helpful. Before seeing video my thoughts were "how long is this feeling of being in limbo going to last"? Tapered all of last year off Klonopin and after one year decided the best thing to do (for myself anyway) was to hold for a while. That while was all of 2023. A new year 2024 and still on hold (afraid?) wondering how long this feeling of being "stuck" is going to last. No major Windows and no major waves, just a feeling of sickness for what seems like forever. The symptoms are still there on a daily basis....just enough to make life barely bearable. Have not and will not give up. Your video today is the encouragement many of us needed to remember not to give up and things will get better. Here's wishing you and all our brothers and sisters going through this horrible ordeal a better and healing New Year!

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Happy new year. Wish you all the best in this new year and deep healing. ❤️‍🩹

  • @crookedrain771
    @crookedrain771 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So hard man . 😔 thanks for the vid Dan , will be talking to you soon

  • @hadarshimon
    @hadarshimon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Dan. this video so important, i really feel very stuck and not have windows for a long time. im still tapering but to suffer so much day after day withoutmyself and to think all the thoughts and feelings you said like im not getting better, im damaged forever, it is so hard!... i still didnt listen to the all video, just want to thank you again for bringing hope and talking about very relevant subject in long acute withdrawal. ❤🙏♥

  • @dagmarmatzold7866
    @dagmarmatzold7866 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ich bin 52 Monate auf null von Diazepam und bin immer noch nicht geheilt ,es ist zermürbend ,danke für deine Ermutigung

  • @lisasmith814
    @lisasmith814 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm in a really bad wave, like REALLY BAD 😢

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh no! Lisa, I’m so sorry to hear this. 😞

    • @lisasmith814
      @lisasmith814 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@philosophicalfishing I'll be OK 🙈

  • @stephaniewestrick5772
    @stephaniewestrick5772 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow. What perfect timing foe this video. This is how I feel today at 25 months off. I got sober a few months before tapering off benzos so I'm not sure what I feel like sober. I was wondering today, is this as good as it gets. Things just seem yucky and no purpose. I gotta keep going. This will pass. Might take awhile. I needed this video

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Keep going, you’ll find your new normal and it will be better than you feel right now.

  • @DiogoSantos-ix5sl
    @DiogoSantos-ix5sl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For me, the only issue I have that really affects me is that I have not felt truly calm for two years and a half.
    If my body is as just able to calm down I’d deal with this so much better.

  • @Gonzo-GT
    @Gonzo-GT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Recovery is not only about withdrawal symptoms, physical, emotional. Is about finding meaning and hope again. When you have been drugged for years, specially, you forgot how to function without the drug, how to live undrugged. You learn to live again during the recovery process, for some people is easier than others. You can't know. But the bigger the stored psychological trauma and the longer taking the drug the more difficult it likely will be. Withdrawal is about readjusting to reality.

  • @Noir-sr5bw
    @Noir-sr5bw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Omg i felt better my first year too. 2nd znd 3rd for me has been bad. I cant even work. I was more connected. I feel so hopeless im 28 month.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I feel you. This is more common than I thought before making these videos. Please hang in there. 🙏🏻

    • @Noir-sr5bw
      @Noir-sr5bw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Dan I still have the same sxs 34 months 😢

  • @kevinmathers-lj5ut
    @kevinmathers-lj5ut 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Dan you are a big help.i wish I could get rid of inner akathisia feel like I'm crawling out of my skin for three years.

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ❤️‍🩹 it’s incredible what we have to endure with this.

    • @kevinmathers-lj5ut
      @kevinmathers-lj5ut 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Dan is that akathisia our nervous system damaged

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kevinmathers-lj5ut yes, as far as we know that’s what it is

    • @kevinmathers-lj5ut
      @kevinmathers-lj5ut 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Dan I know your not a doctor by my doctor don't believe in a tapering she said a month I have been tapering atavin for five months does that seem like a short taper

  • @KathleenMottinger
    @KathleenMottinger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    But Dan, I'm 83 and 8 months off 40 years of 1mg klonopin nightly. No windows. Little hope and not really much time.

    • @evanm6804
      @evanm6804 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      So sorry Kathleen but you are a warrior for deciding to get off this sh*t at your age and after such a long time. Stay strong!

    • @Anthony-cp4xw
      @Anthony-cp4xw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stay strong, you can & will do it!!

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re an amazing and inspiring person, Kathleen. You can still do this.

    • @planetnone24
      @planetnone24 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Man how come you're trying to come off it now? If you feel worse off it might as well stay on it but also get why you would want to come off it unless it wasn't your choice. Praying for you 🙏

    • @kellyjofrey4192
      @kellyjofrey4192 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can do it!

  • @thomasallen4340
    @thomasallen4340 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Growing up i was on lots of psychological poisins. Ritalin imipramine adderall all at once. Got off decades ago and still to this day have cognitive issues from the damage.

  • @Filthycoffin
    @Filthycoffin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are so much more hopeful to listen to than josef. His channel is dangerous for people going through this. Yours is positive even though I know you work with him please keep upbeat and hopeful. Thank you for your videos. Congratulations on your family. You’re so very lucky to have been able to keep and maintain a family You mentioned your third year was it already like to the day you got to your third year or was it like months before being into being four years off? I’m close 30 months off mornings still horrible. I’m depressed my family thinks I’m just hypochondria and abandoned me. I’m going through a divorce they’re making me do a psychological evaluation with the forensic psychologist because no one believes in anything like this. This is so stupid I hate all fucking doctors and Pharma

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m so sorry that you’re going through this. It’s horrendous. ❤️‍🩹

  • @Radhey2223
    @Radhey2223 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can pushing hard and distracting ourselves deeply into some work or in conversation with people increase stress on nerves and inturn symptoms severely?
    I am 5 months off xanax, and recently my symptoms drastically changed and intensified. In earlier months, i used to go out, do all the work, but now it's difficult to do routine task, go for a small walk. My head is so confused, foggy, heavy, nervous all the time. My mind finds it difficult to relate and connect with environment and to my own existence. It seems that mind, body and my nerves are not working in pace .
    What can be the cause of sudden worsening of symptoms?
    Can we get a late acute withdrawal? That too after 4 months?
    Please help.

  • @jimferrill1790
    @jimferrill1790 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Dan. Great video as usual. I’m seven months off of Valium after a one-month taper. I’m doing really well. I exercise every single day. I think that may have something to do with my progression. I’m very happy with the way. I’m progressing by the way. The last week I felt really rotten just sick. Today I feel really good. I hope I’ve turned the corner. I don’t feel exhausted today. I’m wondering if exercise consistent exercise is the key to my success. Obviously, it can’t hurt. I know others read these comments. I wonder if they worked out every single day if they could benefit from that. I wonder if it’s that big of a deal. Anyway thanks a lot for the video.

  • @Noir-sr5bw
    @Noir-sr5bw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dan is it the cigarettes maybe making it worse. Im down to 4 a day b7t i had a bad reaction and im stuck

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cigarettes can rev you up but I also understand how hard it is to quit

    • @Noir-sr5bw
      @Noir-sr5bw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@philosophicalfishing I only have a few. I wouldn't even have them i have no way to distracting

  • @julieadams5389
    @julieadams5389 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Dan. I haven’t seen many of your videos lately. I feel stuck right now. I’m 4 years off today. The last few months have been the worst. My main problem is a constant pulling in my stomach. It is an inner movement. And it is getting worse. I have had the medical tests. Nothing has been found. This constant nervous pulling causes constant diarrhoea, through the night and through the morning. This is very depleting. Nothing off with my appetite. So I’ve called this Benzo belly but I’m never quite sure. And just the thought of looking into my diet seems overwhelming right now,, In your opinion would you consider this to be a withdrawal symptom? . Doc has given me a med for IBS but I am reluctant to take it. 😊

  • @jrman413
    @jrman413 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello
    I have read about mHBOT and NAD IV that can help. Maybe you could do a topic about that?

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the suggestion! I haven’t heard about mHBOT so I’ll have to do some research on that.

  • @MattRinehart-e4e
    @MattRinehart-e4e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dan did you go through a (period of time )for some odd reason every morning you woke up you were automatically stuck in your head (BrainFog) . Is this normal ? And do you have a answer why it’s so automatic to be in your head right away. ?

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes. Mornings were the worst for me and then I would sometimes feel a little better by the afternoon.

    • @kellyjofrey4192
      @kellyjofrey4192 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mornings were worst for me, as well! In fact at almost 4 years free the few symptoms I still have rear their ugly heads n the morning!

    • @MattRinehart-e4e
      @MattRinehart-e4e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kellyjofrey4192 ugly heads I like that terminology for it !! Exactly what I feel. What’s weird is I’ll almost be a bit better by the night go to sleep okay (Not Great) but better then how the day started , I’ll wake up and BOOM in my head and I’m like how I’m the world do I stop this .

    • @MattRinehart-e4e
      @MattRinehart-e4e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@philosophicalfishing Same here . Right now I’m dealing with numb body . Kinda hard to walk cuz the nerves in my feet and are being hammered by my KLONOPIN withdrawal. Dan question . I’m 2 years on . I wanna come off now or never . I want it out my life . Do you believe 2 years I have a good chance to get out of this due to not being on for let say 5 years .. and Dan I actually had a free 15 min call with you and missed it due to brain fog and forgetting I had it set up. Will you give me another chance ?

  • @rodsimonson9175
    @rodsimonson9175 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did you fall asleep when first getting off anti-psychotic meds? My invega is at its end now I can't sleep.

    • @rodsimonson9175
      @rodsimonson9175 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have been weening from zoplicone at sametime. It maybe these pills or both.

  • @joeroux5178
    @joeroux5178 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m 6 months in and I feel stuck. Look I must say I feel so much better wow. The other day I had a evening that I felt like 100% healthy. Everything was so so good. And I just keep on holding on to that. Come on!! We can do this!!!

  • @Jamesseekstruth
    @Jamesseekstruth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why ill never stop taking mine i thought about it but at 40 whats the point iv never seen anyone doing better on youtube not one recovery just updates years later and they are still messed up their faces look liked they aged 40 years ..noo ill stay on these it sucks but iv had withdrawls multipule times and im not doing it whats the point really if theres no end ?

    • @Gonzo-GT
      @Gonzo-GT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't blame you for thinking that way. I'm three years and half in my recovery process, I stopped Sertraline cold turkey, and if I had known what was coming (I didn't have informed consent) I probably would have said "no, I'm not going through that". In summer 2023 I really got bad, extremely anxious and stressed out, my hair started falling and my body started aging fast, all in one year, specially the past six months. You're doing good thinking about it twice. But if you wanna try, be prepared, know what can comes before you start getting better. Some people do fine tho.

  • @CF-Warrior
    @CF-Warrior 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are you talking after your off? Im still trying after a gew attempts. Going on 17 months and very bad mentally to put it mild. Im nowhere near off and your talking years or months off? May God help me. The mental is non-stop... I actually got more discouraged watching this... Im 57 on k for 17 years.... What sm i gonna do? Im minute to minute everyday and still have to get off of 2.75 mgs of k. What the hell?

    • @philosophicalfishing
      @philosophicalfishing  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was referring to having been off klonopin, antidepressants, lamictal, and vyvanse, but I was still taking gabapentin and propranolol. For some of us the emotional toll runs deep due to past trauma and our nervous systems just taking time to heal. Please don’t get discouraged. The recovery process looks different for everyone and some bring more baggage into it than others.

  • @Jamesseekstruth
    @Jamesseekstruth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ya you seem great compared to 5 years i can hear the anxiety in your voice now and it been years , thanks for the heads up .......#stayonclons #fuckwithdrawl #itsbraindamagenowstayon

  • @14skmw46
    @14skmw46 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel stuck right now like I've hit a plateau but must have hope healing is going on underneath ❤️‍🩹