Miller and Holden are both acting like they are protagonists- of different stories that just crossed over. Which they really are. They are pushing each other because they don’t know anymore whose story they are in.
You'll never "figure it out" before they want you to and that's what makes this show so amazing. Curveballs that come out of nowhere but just "make sense" when you think about it. Avoid spoilers at all costs, one of my favorite reactors doing this rn 👌
And yet, your second time through the show its amazing to see how incredibly thorough they were about telling you every single thing that happens before it happens, often a season or three beforehand.
Regarding the security guards in Eros, little clues sprinkled before hand with Diogo saying that the gangs on Ceres are leaving and made room for his water stealing operation. It was also mentioned that riot gear went missing. We now know where it all ended up.
@@funnylilgalreacts No detail is too small in this show. Seriously, it's crazy how well thought out it all is. You get to the end and think "Damn. They've been seeing this all since day one. Dammit!" ;)
I love watching Expanse reactions precisely because everyone’s theories get torn down… it’s tradition at this point. Can tell you from experience you’ll still be picking up new details on the third or fourth rewatch. And watching people discover this for the first time is a constant joy :)
We TOTALLY agree. We've watched the series numerous times, but we also enjoy finding NEW reactors to share this joy with them, too. Thank you...for this entertaining ride-a-long.
@@funnylilgalreacts There's so much you're going to miss because things that happen in later seasons are hinted at even from S1. My 2nd watch through was mind blowing. Not all background characters are "extras". It's a highly complex interconnected web. I love this show.
lol ... "My theories get shot to shit.". I do love watching your pre-episode talk from the lofty position of hind sight. 🤣 Really enjoying watching the show with you.
25:00 "Why would deGraff have that information?" I don't think it's explicitly addressed in the show, but I'm assuming that, when he pretended he was doing consulting jobs to his partner, he was actually going out and using all his remaining government connections to find out what happened that, indirectly, cost him his retirement on Mars. He was doing his own "Miller time" that we never got to see. :)
I was lucky - and I do mean lucky - enough to work on the show. Just a menial role, standard flunky crew stuff. *** SUPER MINOR SPOILER BELOW *** Anyway, in a later season, we were in the set for the Avasarala home. And lemme tellya, her walk-in closet with the outfits ... felt like hallowed ground. Honestly, the week we shot it, I had some prep to do. Stage was quiet (we were shooting on another stage at that moment) and I caught myself in there just staring at the racks of clothes. I was in the Queen's lair! The sounds of other crew approaching woke me from the reverie, and I pretended to fuss about with work stuff (even though none of my gear needed to be in there). Not sure why I was embarrassed but, y'know, it is what it is.
Kudos on not cutting all your incorrect theories out of the intro. As you no doubt realize, watching people come up with incorrect theories is a big part of the fun of watching reactions to this show! Even so, I imagine it's a bit tough to expose your errors (understandable though they are) to a public audience, so, thanks! :) Aside: the series finale just won a Hugo award for best short (under 90 min) SF/F film or episode of the year.
Fred Johnson knew those stealth ships were built on Earth at the Bush shipyards because he builds ships. Its his job to know things about shipyards so there must've been something in the Donnager's logs that caused that to click in his mind.
The opening credits are probably the best and I never get tired of watching them. Also as the story progresses the images will change and reflect what's happening in the world of the show. I think they're included now because episodes 9 and 10 were shown as a 2hr season finale.
just a correction that means nothing now, but Kenso sent the communication to those people that attacked them in the the Blue Falcon. that was the black ops team.
Another Expanse reaction so soon!? Awesome! And thank you!! What an episode and great reaction!! And just think, it's just getting started!! Loved getting the flashback of Julie! Did you take notice of the bird, necklace and Miller with the hat just before Julie died? The mega dose of hard radiation that Miller and Holden got is lethal! The look on your face when Fred Johnson said the ships were built by Earth!! So looking forward to the next one! Buckle up!! It only gets crazier from here out!!
It was great to get the backstory on Julie and how all the events went down. The Razerback is like Julie's prized horse or pony, but it's a racing ship. Found it interesting that Julie saw Miller and the bird before she died. Chrisjen snooping around Frank's place meant that she was probably suspicious about his death. I think you're one of the few reactors that picked up that the pencils had data drives on them. We saw Frank using them earlier in the season. I"m sure Frank was maybe snooping around... Julie's father is something else. He does feel bad about losing his daughter but has his own plans... Miller's just acting like a guy with nothing to lose or live for now. Your editor is having fun and we appreciate it and your wonderful reaction and thoughts. This show is so much fun and it's just getting going!
I absolutely love that you're doing this show, and that you're finally over the slower, first-season setup episodes. Things are going to get quite interesting for the next several seasons. Happy to be along for the ride.
"... ...My theories get shot to shit." Welcome to the Expanse :) For real though, excellent reactions and thoughts. Tell your editor that you're one of the few reactors for whom I don't skip the preamble and coda.
And now is when this show goes from good to one of the best ever. Pretty much every episode from here on out for 'seasons' changes everything. Enjoying the reactions. :)
Just started rewatching the series and your reactions is a good companion piece to the rewatch! What I really love about the show (and the books) is the sense of realism in the world building. This feels like a glimpse into the future of humanity. There's so many excellent details!
Season 2, episodes 4 & 5 really should be watched back to back. Season 2, episode 4, has one hell of a cliffhanger. I believe these 2 episodes were aired as a 2hr special on Sci-fi Channel.
Smart, Smart writing. Great characters brilliantly conceived and written - each of them is a person, not a trope: they're complicated, conflicted. Relationships - all of them good or bad - are earned, they have reasons
21:46 "No! Shut up Holden" LOL @funnylilgal Did you forget this is The Expanse? Where characters die? There was a panel on the side with the universal nuclear power symbol and words. My screen is not detailed enough to read it, but I'm guessing it is a status panel and Holden is not joking or exaggerating because he looked at it. Regular workers in space have to be aware of radiation levels and dosages, because of power reactors, the sun and so on.
As a sci fi geek I love this show for having one of the most interesting stories on tv. As pedantic movie buff who has always appreciated attention to detail I love this show for trying to make as much about this show as accurate as possible. They don't get everything but it's closer than any other show or movie like it. Details like the way the bird flies in low gravity and how you pour a drink on a rotating station to how the ships and weapons work. Only Apollo 13 looks more real. Whoever made sure these details made it in should get some kind of extra recognition because that's what made it not just a great sci-fi show but my favourite sci fi show. And probably my 2nd favourite show of all time. Really enjoying the reactions too by the way.
@@kirkdarling4120 Never saw Destination Moon but 2001 did an amazing job with the technology they had then. Real out of the box thinking by Kubrick and the special effects department. And while there was plenty incorrect with it, the remake of Battlestar Galactica was one of the first I remember with ships in combat actually flipping and burning to change direction and reasonably realistic action. Up til then all space combat I'd seen had spaceships flying like aircraft, banking to turn and such.
One of the neat things The Expanse does is show you something a bit odd and not apparently relevant to the story, and linger upon it second or so longer than necessary. That usually means you should store that scene in your memory, as it will become relevant in a later episode. It was really odd to see McGraf using a pencil to take notes. Nobody uses pencils.
So regarding Degraaf, you have been told: 1 - He was getting better, doing some consulting work at the shipyards (By Avasarala) 2 - There was no consulting work, he was going to the shipyards, paying himself the money. (By his husband) 3 - He committed suicide Also, the information in the pens, Avasarala has stoled mentioned: - A ship schematics, which no ship in the UN records has installed. - the same shipyard name, that Fred Johson has pointed out the stealth ships have come from the data, he got from the mars chip.
Also, remember that every time we saw DeGraaf, he was writing with pencils into a paper notebook...in a world where everyone uses hand terminals. Avasarala undoubtedly knew her old friend wasn't merely eccentric...she knew what those pencils really were.
Avasarala goes rummaging through Frank's desk and all she takes is a handful of graphite writing sticks. It's really odd, come to think of it, that in a world in which everyone and his brother carry a graphene supercomputer around in their pockets, Frank spent every spare moment scribbling in a paper notebook with his archaic little pencils. Curious.... Graphene, graphite. Close enough, apparently. Thumb drives that wouldn't turn a customs inspector's head. And what do they say about the secret info? No tracking data available.
Even when a twist is revealed and your theories are blown out of the water you still have no idea what's actually going on. That's The Expanse, and I love it for that.
Your facial expressions are golden in your expanse reaction vids...lol...as someone who's watched the show and read all the books, I'm so happy you're doing this show....I think it will become a fav of yours....your perception on the show's pace change after ep7 is spot on...strap in and enjoy the ride!....
Fred Johnson has not stolen from the Mormon church. The actor who plays Amos does a podcast on, I assume among other places, TH-cam with one of the authors - Ty and that guy. And yeah, see, the show can resurrect the dead in flashbacks so you might see some characters who've died again.
@@jamesholland5761 ah, I only discovered it towards the end. Do they break it down how much they spoil for each episode. I guess release dates and/or filming schedule.
She can wait until the end of season 6 to watch Ty and that guy. She will definitely need her Expanse...and Amos fix when it's over. Special guests too. Also comicon panels with the cast, authors, showrunners is quite interesting and often hilarious.
Discovered this late. You ask all the right questions. I read each book the day released, and watched and rewatched the series a dozen times. It's fun to see you experience it the first time; brings back all the joy I feel every (re)watch.
Loving your reactions! ❤️ So fun to watch you make the connections with what’s already happened, & then realize the wider implications. This show does an amazing job of showing how, even when we have the best of intentions, our actions can have consequences we can’t possibly imagine. Fred Johnson: they were built by EARTH! meaning UN earth gov…. Or were they? Maybe they were, - but Remember this shows ability to show how Group A ALWAYS thinks that it’s group B - Group B ALWAYS thinks it’s group A - & group C KNOWS it’s always A or B….
Seeing Julie like that took me back to the "Meth - not even once." PSAs. I'm still watching these for the first time as you release them. I think Holden and Miller are going to need some serious plot armor to come out of this ok. If there's anything Russian journalists can tell us about radiation poisoning it's: a tiny bit is lethal. Soooo...a mega dose? Good luck boys.
There's a difference between being exposed to radiation, and being injected with radioactive material. The latter is far more dangerous, for the first see Chernobyl.
This is one of those shows that reaches up from the deep dark depths. And once it grabs you it drags you down into those deep dark depths making you want more. In a later season we find out more about it.
You remember all those rules of the show you mentioned at the start of this vid? The Protomolicule breaks all those rules. Get ready for crazy to ramp up to 11 after this- this episode is sorta the starting gun on a big four way race.
Obviously someone or something wants Earth and Mars to fight so that they can do their dirty work behind the scenes undistracted. Oh man YOU BETTER GET READY. You have know idea how fast this rollercoaster ride of a show is going to get.
You're in the hot zone now. The first 2-3 episodes are a crawl, but then they start walking, then running, etc. From here on out every episode is a treat.
(No Spoilers) Regarding radiation, I totally get it, because of his behavior up to this point, it's easy to see Holden as always overestimating certain consequences but we need to also remember the setting of the show (protomolecule not included) is highly science based and accurate more often than not. For another excellent and historic exploration on the effects of different doses of radiation on human anatomy is the HBO mini-series "Chernobyl" which I can also highly recommend. Let's not forget Holden also has significant experience in space with the UN Navy which not only would have required dealing with radiation but also radiation safety and protocols not unlike those serving on nuclear powered ships today, especially submarines. The effects of high dose radiation can be very counter intuitive because as you said, the damage usually happens at the genetic level but those effects are often not fully realized until the cell tries conducting normal cellular function, driven by DNA and RNA instruction which has been severely damaged. Like blue prints for construction, those molecules (for all intents and purposes) instruct all protein synthesis and cellular function (with some exceptions but not important here) and just like a construction site, once the blue prints are damaged severely, errors occur when they are read, and then those errors can compound over time so from minutes, to hours, to days, effects of those errors will start to manifest compounding errors every single moment until the cell starts to disintegrate physically. It is entirely possible to be irradiated with a high enough dose, you can have a 100% prognosis of death within days and still carry on for a short time without even realizing it. So given everything we know up to this point, if I were Miller and just heard that from Holden, I would start making my peace with my fast approaching mortality much of which will be unbearably painful.
Yaaahh I love that I'm getting another of your reactions so soon.. wohooo you and your editor 😁. No spoiler here cause you already seen it, but I think you're going to love this episode. On another note, I always get deeply (😁😉) upset when you dis on Millers hat or hair..... so tonight I gave myself a Miller haircut 😁😁. Love that you are slowly turning to team Miller.
@@funnylilgalreacts the writing on This show has the fantastic ability to change our opinion of these characters - I’ve lost count of how many time I’ve disliked a new one, then come to love or at least really respect them- & a couple have gone the other way. Just like in real life, some people are fantastic- until you really get to know ‘em!
JJ abrams did this "mystery box" thing is his shows. He would develop these mysteries that, albeit were very interesting, he didn't seem like he had fully thought out how to resolve these mysteries he created. It's why I feel LOST didn't really get resolved and had a ton of plot lines just dropped. Where as the authors of The Expanse had all this planned, and many books were out by the time the series started AND one of the writers was heavily involved in the show. Because of this, the show makes all of the little references to things that will come up later, because they have a plan for the story. You are probably missing a ton, just cause it's your first watch through, and if you were to go back and re-watch, you'll notice them.
Your expression at 21:58. Uh-huh. Yep. The books do it too. They were written by two authors from varying character perspectives. Chapter titles are the name of the character you're viewing from. They'd apparently trade chapters so I think the endings were, on a certain level, them one upping each other.
I'm not sure this was covered before, the full opening is probably because the first three seasons originally aired on Syfy which means the episodes had to be a set length. Sometimes they shorten the opening to accommodate more scenes and sometimes they don't.
Not a mistake; Shed (Actor) was credited in the 1st 4 episodes, and they used footage from that, hence, he is credited in this episode, even though he was not seen.
Just to help you tie up an end you seemed to have missed - the violence in the Blue Falcon was the attempted hit on Holden by Erinwright and they briefly give you the heads up display view from Kenzo (his spy) setting it up before they walked in and why it all starts with him running out. Nobody accounted for the fact - to butcher a quote… “They have an Amos”! Anyway, you’ll see him again!
29:44 THAT VISION OF EACH SEASON IS DEPENDENT ON EACH PERSON HOW IT CONNECTS WITH THE SERIES, IT HAPPENS TO ME THE SAME AS YOU, THE SERIES HAS STARTED TO BECOME INTERESTING FROM THE FIRST EPISODES AND I FEEL THAT THE SECOND AND THE THIRD SEASON I STILL DON'T SEE IT ( AND I WILL SEE IT TOGETHER WITH YOUR REACTIONS) I AM SO EXCITED PSDT: AMOS IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER
After watching a few episodes (it took many tries because I was on parental leave with a fresh newborn that demanded a lot of time) I went and got the books. Season 1 - 3 are a mix of the first three books, but they do make some alterations for reasons I'm unsure of. Nothing breaking the story, and the major points all get covered. The 'Don Quixote' reference from Holden's mom tells you nearly everything you need to know about his character. Also, Rocinante is the protagonist's horse in the book. I don't want to give anything away with Holden and Miller, but you're right and wrong about those two. You have a few more "holy crap I didn't see that coming" moments left this season. It's been fun 'seeing' this again. I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions on some of the key episodes.
A quick note about the intro credits: They change every season, and sometimes during the season, usually with little hints peppered throughout about what to expect later in the season.
Where the books start and end within the series doesn't align neatly with their starts and ends when it comes to the first three seasons. Season two starts with material from book 2, and book 1 ends half way through season 2. Book 3 starts with the "splat" moment seven episodes into season 2. Seasons 4 to 6 do align with the books. I think this is mostly to do with the fact that a large chunk of Avasarala's storyline in the first two seasons has been added for the show resulting everything being shoved further into the run to accomodate it. She doesn't show up until the second book with the first switching alternately between Holden's and Miller's perspectives.
One of the best things about this show is that there are virtually no "throwaway" lines or moments. Eventually, ALL of this comes full circle...so pay attention. You'll love where this is all going. ;)
In order to introduce all of the characters, both in Space and on Earth, the showrunners blended the first two books of the series together and spread them through the first two seasons.
Look up "Acute Radiation Syndrome", yeah, Holden wasn't exaggerating about them being dead (baring future magic medicine), and it's not a particularly nice way to die either.
4:52 It's not that big... it's really big compared to other ships in the expanse, but it's only 2.5 km long and 1 km wide. It definitely is a city amongst the stars - but not a planet.
On the one hand, they probably got about as much radiation dose as some of the workers present during the Chernobyl incident. And most of those either died or had significant radiation injuries and cancers. Probably not as much exposure as the very first firemen who were sent right in front of the reactor, standing next to pieces of the core; but certainly more than most of the later liquidators who came in to clean up and had taken at least the basic precautions and had exposure limits. Still, Holden and Miller got enough acute dose to kill if not treated appropriately. Good thing because of the abundance of hard radiation in space, they must have good treatments for radiation exposure in general. But still probably not much treatment can do for acute mega-doses. The thing is, there's no real indication that Holden has any sort of dosimeter that he's checking that would tell him how much of an exposure they had. More he's probably been trained to know the signs of acute radiation exposure (tastes and sensations, flashes of light inside the eyeball for cosmic rays (which probably doesn't factor here but astronauts would be aware of them), etc) plus experienced a bit of it from his time working in space, that he could tell it was a BAD exposure; so in his mind they're basically dead since if you get enough dose to notice you got a bad dose, it's gotta be a BAD dose.
Why they name all these characters who are then killed off an episode or three later: lazy screenwriters have "characters" named "angry guard #3" or "muscular Marine". Good writers put in the effort to think about even tertiary characters, what their motivations are, how they got to where they are now. This series, and the books it is based upon, was written by *very* good writers. Right around the time season six was released, I finally convinced a coworker to check out The Expanse after weeks of trying. He watched the entire series in five days. It is an addiction.
Just a thought, But was the telescope pointing the wrong way a mistake, Or was it a clue left behind, Pointing to the area with the desk and the data hidden within?
I think Jules Pierre Mao was devastated by her death but his mindset there was more like "my daughter died because of my actions.. the least I can do is make this count for something"
To Dawes' credit, he had Fred Johnson seek out Lionel Polanski, which is why Fred wanted the Rocinante so badly when they got onto Tycho. It's why Fred had the Roci crew seek out Lionel Polanski. With Ceres thrown into a revolt over everything Julie's father caused, he was busy handling matters on Ceres and outsourced the rescue to Fred.
I kind of forgot about that whole storyline… He might not be as bad as I think he is, but I question him every step of the way because I don’t trust him
@@funnylilgalreacts Oh for sure! He's a politician of sorts, he wants Ceres to be a home for belters, and everything else comes second fiddle to that. Admirable goals, but he's still a flawed, manipulative person (he very much reminds me of Chrisjen). I don't think we've met a single politician in the Expanse at this point that's at all trustworthy, as much as some of them may be fun to watch.
Julie was a thing!!! This is how the whole thing started. Obviously Julie was exposed to the spores of this "Protomolecule" when she went to the reactor room. She is becoming. Stay tuned!!!.... Also you know, just like an airplane has a black box that they look for when it crashes, the Donnager has an event recorders and Fred Johnson obtained the tape of that recorder. You're sharp. Hmmmmm I'd thought you'd figure that out.
It's important to keep in mind that in this show, the 3 "big players", Earth, Mars and Belt are NOT monolithic powerblocks. "Was built by Earth" (not "on" Earth either), does not automatically mean "was built by the UN". Just as "the belt" does not automatically mean "OPA" which is in itself something that's put together from a lot of different factions. It's been mentioned several times, that the UN would love to build stealth ships but doesn't have the money to pull of a stealth program like Mars did. Mars was able to because their whole economy and workforce is focused on only 2 things in the end: terraforming and military. With Earth and the UN it's different. For example, the UN Navy has more ships than the Martian one but the Martians have better, more modern ships.
@@kirkdarling4120 as far as I can figure, the "Bush naval shipyards" are not necessarily owned by him but also build ships for private contracts in addition to government ones.
@@NewAeonWarlord It would be pretty difficult to build a fleet of stealth ships in someone else's shipyard without anyone knowing. Unless only the engines came from Bush and the ships were built in Mao's facilities elsewhere.
@@kirkdarling4120 true, that might actually be what was happening. We only really know about the drives except for what Fred Johnson said and his info came from detailed drive signatures the Donnager recorded, so....
Now you know the name Proto Molecule and both Holden and Miller did receive a lethal dose of radiation. The results of this episode are very important in the future. Just keep going.
Don’t worry. All my theories got shot to shit too. The Expanse was really good at keeping you off balance all thru the first season. Such good show writing.
Yeah, this show is addictive, the story, the people, the world building. Can not wait for you to get to "the good stuff". Honestly, its all good stuff.
Holden runs a bit slow on the uptake sometimes...that's because he's actually rather naive about evil. It takes him a moment to realize it when he sees it. Avasarala knows that Fred Johnson is telling the truth because DeGraaf's information corroborates it. But nobody else knows that Avasarala knows Fred is telling the truth. DeGraaf loved Mars, but he was loyal to Earth.
I dunno why you don't like Millers' hat. It was cool! However, I LUV your reactions to this series.Your theories?... Keep on doing it! That is the charm of this series, keeps ya'll guessing!
Miller and Holden are both acting like they are protagonists- of different stories that just crossed over. Which they really are. They are pushing each other because they don’t know anymore whose story they are in.
You'll never "figure it out" before they want you to and that's what makes this show so amazing. Curveballs that come out of nowhere but just "make sense" when you think about it. Avoid spoilers at all costs, one of my favorite reactors doing this rn 👌
"You'll never "figure it out" before they want you to..."
This 👆🏼
And yet, your second time through the show its amazing to see how incredibly thorough they were about telling you every single thing that happens before it happens, often a season or three beforehand.
You never see it coming, but you realize they always gave you the clues.
@@kirkdarling4120 "Rush into a room too fast, kid... the room eats you." ;)
One of the few cases where the video adaptation is better than the book(s) they are based on.
Regarding the intro. The fans wanted the full theme, so they added it again.
And it is so, so great.
And it changes per season
@@r4pids The visuals change per season, not the music or the length. Here, you had the length being cut down. It was different.
The mystery box is opened... Did you like what we found out?
This is The Expanse. Questions answered. New questions arise. Welcome to The Churn!
THE ONE TIME he doesn't have his hat to keep the rain off his head. THE ONE TIME. I hope you're happy!
I’m thrilled. But also, I beg for the hat back at one point. I’m sure you know when.
@@funnylilgalreacts lol Im sure. How far into the show are you?
2x7
Regarding the security guards in Eros, little clues sprinkled before hand with Diogo saying that the gangs on Ceres are leaving and made room for his water stealing operation. It was also mentioned that riot gear went missing. We now know where it all ended up.
Oooh I missed that connection!
@@funnylilgalreacts No detail is too small in this show. Seriously, it's crazy how well thought out it all is. You get to the end and think "Damn. They've been seeing this all since day one. Dammit!" ;)
@@TheSirUno The books and the authors in the writers' room keep it on track.
@@billross7245 Yup!
And also, Filat Kothary said that spiking Havelock was a "going away present."
I love watching Expanse reactions precisely because everyone’s theories get torn down… it’s tradition at this point. Can tell you from experience you’ll still be picking up new details on the third or fourth rewatch. And watching people discover this for the first time is a constant joy :)
I get so excited when I’m kind of on the right path… Mildly defeated yet entertained when I’m completely wrong
We TOTALLY agree. We've watched the series numerous times, but we also enjoy finding NEW reactors to share this joy with them, too. Thank you...for this entertaining ride-a-long.
@@funnylilgalreacts There's so much you're going to miss because things that happen in later seasons are hinted at even from S1. My 2nd watch through was mind blowing. Not all background characters are "extras". It's a highly complex interconnected web. I love this show.
The actress that plays Julie really shows her chops in this episode! She's great!
lol ... "My theories get shot to shit.". I do love watching your pre-episode talk from the lofty position of hind sight. 🤣
Really enjoying watching the show with you.
25:00 "Why would deGraff have that information?"
I don't think it's explicitly addressed in the show, but I'm assuming that, when he pretended he was doing consulting jobs to his partner, he was actually going out and using all his remaining government connections to find out what happened that, indirectly, cost him his retirement on Mars. He was doing his own "Miller time" that we never got to see. :)
Avasarala's dresses are something to look forward to indeed!
I was lucky - and I do mean lucky - enough to work on the show. Just a menial role, standard flunky crew stuff.
*** SUPER MINOR SPOILER BELOW ***
Anyway, in a later season, we were in the set for the Avasarala home. And lemme tellya, her walk-in closet with the outfits ... felt like hallowed ground.
Honestly, the week we shot it, I had some prep to do. Stage was quiet (we were shooting on another stage at that moment) and I caught myself in there just staring at the racks of clothes. I was in the Queen's lair!
The sounds of other crew approaching woke me from the reverie, and I pretended to fuss about with work stuff (even though none of my gear needed to be in there). Not sure why I was embarrassed but, y'know, it is what it is.
I wish that I could pull off looks like those. She’s fantastic
@@AngeloBarovierSDLucky you and thanks for your work on the show!
Kudos on not cutting all your incorrect theories out of the intro. As you no doubt realize, watching people come up with incorrect theories is a big part of the fun of watching reactions to this show! Even so, I imagine it's a bit tough to expose your errors (understandable though they are) to a public audience, so, thanks! :)
Aside: the series finale just won a Hugo award for best short (under 90 min) SF/F film or episode of the year.
Fred Johnson knew those stealth ships were built on Earth at the Bush shipyards because he builds ships. Its his job to know things about shipyards so there must've been something in the Donnager's logs that caused that to click in his mind.
The opening credits are probably the best and I never get tired of watching them. Also as the story progresses the images will change and reflect what's happening in the world of the show. I think they're included now because episodes 9 and 10 were shown as a 2hr season finale.
In later seasons there’s some subtle hints tucked away in them as to things happening across the system too
just a correction that means nothing now, but Kenso sent the communication to those people that attacked them in the the Blue Falcon. that was the black ops team.
He's also the UN spy on Tycho that Avasarala wanted control of, though she didn't want Holden dead.
"She's got nice teeth." 😂 I'm dying 😅
Another Expanse reaction so soon!? Awesome! And thank you!!
What an episode and great reaction!! And just think, it's just getting started!!
Loved getting the flashback of Julie! Did you take notice of the bird, necklace and Miller with the hat just before Julie died?
The mega dose of hard radiation that Miller and Holden got is lethal!
The look on your face when Fred Johnson said the ships were built by Earth!!
So looking forward to the next one!
Buckle up!! It only gets crazier from here out!!
It was great to get the backstory on Julie and how all the events went down. The Razerback is like Julie's prized horse or pony, but it's a racing ship. Found it interesting that Julie saw Miller and the bird before she died. Chrisjen snooping around Frank's place meant that she was probably suspicious about his death. I think you're one of the few reactors that picked up that the pencils had data drives on them. We saw Frank using them earlier in the season. I"m sure Frank was maybe snooping around... Julie's father is something else. He does feel bad about losing his daughter but has his own plans... Miller's just acting like a guy with nothing to lose or live for now.
Your editor is having fun and we appreciate it and your wonderful reaction and thoughts. This show is so much fun and it's just getting going!
"She's really pretty. It's kind of distracting me."... That's how we feel each video too.
I absolutely love that you're doing this show, and that you're finally over the slower, first-season setup episodes. Things are going to get quite interesting for the next several seasons. Happy to be along for the ride.
"... ...My theories get shot to shit."
Welcome to the Expanse :)
For real though, excellent reactions and thoughts. Tell your editor that you're one of the few reactors for whom I don't skip the preamble and coda.
Thank you for listening to me ramble! It's mostly about how I think I'm so smart, and then how I'm so dumb LOL
And now is when this show goes from good to one of the best ever. Pretty much every episode from here on out for 'seasons' changes everything.
Enjoying the reactions. :)
Just started rewatching the series and your reactions is a good companion piece to the rewatch! What I really love about the show (and the books) is the sense of realism in the world building. This feels like a glimpse into the future of humanity. There's so many excellent details!
In the books, Avasarala says, "Holden's an idiot, but he's not stupid" and I think you definitely picked that up about his character.
What you saw at 8:02 - they have a name for that; it’s called being “spaced.”
Season 2, episodes 4 & 5 really should be watched back to back. Season 2, episode 4, has one hell of a cliffhanger. I believe these 2 episodes were aired as a 2hr special on Sci-fi Channel.
I was warned by my editor to give myself to watch both the same day 😂
plus they are the two greatest episodes of any tv show ever
That trumpet though XD
😂😂
Smart, Smart writing. Great characters brilliantly conceived and written - each of them is a person, not a trope: they're complicated, conflicted. Relationships - all of them good or bad - are earned, they have reasons
21:46 "No! Shut up Holden" LOL @funnylilgal Did you forget this is The Expanse? Where characters die?
There was a panel on the side with the universal nuclear power symbol and words. My screen is not detailed enough to read it, but I'm guessing it is a status panel and Holden is not joking or exaggerating because he looked at it. Regular workers in space have to be aware of radiation levels and dosages, because of power reactors, the sun and so on.
Ionizing radiation is no joke.
As a sci fi geek I love this show for having one of the most interesting stories on tv. As pedantic movie buff who has always appreciated attention to detail I love this show for trying to make as much about this show as accurate as possible. They don't get everything but it's closer than any other show or movie like it.
Details like the way the bird flies in low gravity and how you pour a drink on a rotating station to how the ships and weapons work. Only Apollo 13 looks more real. Whoever made sure these details made it in should get some kind of extra recognition because that's what made it not just a great sci-fi show but my favourite sci fi show. And probably my 2nd favourite show of all time.
Really enjoying the reactions too by the way.
"2001: A Space Odyssey" lay early claim to scientific realism. Before that, there was the 1949 "Destination Moon."
@@kirkdarling4120 Never saw Destination Moon but 2001 did an amazing job with the technology they had then. Real out of the box thinking by Kubrick and the special effects department.
And while there was plenty incorrect with it, the remake of Battlestar Galactica was one of the first I remember with ships in combat actually flipping and burning to change direction and reasonably realistic action. Up til then all space combat I'd seen had spaceships flying like aircraft, banking to turn and such.
This is going to be fun. The show is about to be a rollercoaster ride👍😊 great reaction
One of the neat things The Expanse does is show you something a bit odd and not apparently relevant to the story, and linger upon it second or so longer than necessary. That usually means you should store that scene in your memory, as it will become relevant in a later episode.
It was really odd to see McGraf using a pencil to take notes. Nobody uses pencils.
Chekhov's guns. Chekhov's guns _everywhere._ And plenty of them don't get fired until several seasons later.
This is why rewatching is also very rewarding!
So regarding Degraaf, you have been told:
1 - He was getting better, doing some consulting work at the shipyards (By Avasarala)
2 - There was no consulting work, he was going to the shipyards, paying himself the money. (By his husband)
3 - He committed suicide
Also, the information in the pens, Avasarala has stoled mentioned:
- A ship schematics, which no ship in the UN records has installed.
- the same shipyard name, that Fred Johson has pointed out the stealth ships have come from the data, he got from the mars chip.
Also, remember that every time we saw DeGraaf, he was writing with pencils into a paper notebook...in a world where everyone uses hand terminals. Avasarala undoubtedly knew her old friend wasn't merely eccentric...she knew what those pencils really were.
Avasarala goes rummaging through Frank's desk and all she takes is a handful of graphite writing sticks. It's really odd, come to think of it, that in a world in which everyone and his brother carry a graphene supercomputer around in their pockets, Frank spent every spare moment scribbling in a paper notebook with his archaic little pencils. Curious....
Graphene, graphite. Close enough, apparently. Thumb drives that wouldn't turn a customs inspector's head. And what do they say about the secret info? No tracking data available.
So glad you're enjoying the show. You're quickly becoming one of my favorite reactors - and the Expanse is one my favorite shows.
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Even when a twist is revealed and your theories are blown out of the water you still have no idea what's actually going on. That's The Expanse, and I love it for that.
I love watching others experience this series; it almost feels like watching it again for the first time!
Great Reaction!, Exciting Episode and am even more dramatic ending and I can’t wait for you to see more! 🥰
Your facial expressions are golden in your expanse reaction vids...lol...as someone who's watched the show and read all the books, I'm so happy you're doing this show....I think it will become a fav of yours....your perception on the show's pace change after ep7 is spot on...strap in and enjoy the ride!....
Fred Johnson has not stolen from the Mormon church.
The actor who plays Amos does a podcast on, I assume among other places, TH-cam with one of the authors - Ty and that guy.
And yeah, see, the show can resurrect the dead in flashbacks so you might see some characters who've died again.
Good info but she does NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT watch Ty & That Guy because they do spoil future episodes.
@@jamesholland5761 ah, I only discovered it towards the end. Do they break it down how much they spoil for each episode. I guess release dates and/or filming schedule.
She can wait until the end of season 6 to watch Ty and that guy. She will definitely need her Expanse...and Amos fix when it's over. Special guests too. Also comicon panels with the cast, authors, showrunners is quite interesting and often hilarious.
I'd also recommend Shohreh Aghdashloo's autobiography, The Alley of Love and Yellow Jasmines.
@@KevinLyda no not really, while discussing things in the episode that they are covering they mention small but important things in upcoming episodes
Discovered this late. You ask all the right questions. I read each book the day released, and watched and rewatched the series a dozen times. It's fun to see you experience it the first time; brings back all the joy I feel every (re)watch.
Loving your reactions! ❤️ So fun to watch you make the connections with what’s already happened, & then realize the wider implications. This show does an amazing job of showing how, even when we have the best of intentions, our actions can have consequences we can’t possibly imagine.
Fred Johnson: they were built by EARTH! meaning UN earth gov…. Or were they? Maybe they were, - but Remember this shows ability to show how Group A ALWAYS thinks that it’s group B - Group B ALWAYS thinks it’s group A - & group C KNOWS it’s always A or B….
A-Earth
B-Mars
C- The Belt
@@funnylilgalreacts ding!ding!ding! We have a winner! 😁
Seeing Julie like that took me back to the "Meth - not even once." PSAs.
I'm still watching these for the first time as you release them. I think Holden and Miller are going to need some serious plot armor to come out of this ok. If there's anything Russian journalists can tell us about radiation poisoning it's: a tiny bit is lethal. Soooo...a mega dose? Good luck boys.
There's a difference between being exposed to radiation, and being injected with radioactive material. The latter is far more dangerous, for the first see Chernobyl.
@@jostein1195 fair point. Kudos
This is one of those shows that reaches up from the deep dark depths. And once it grabs you it drags you down into those deep dark depths making you want more. In a later season we find out more about it.
You remember all those rules of the show you mentioned at the start of this vid?
The Protomolicule breaks all those rules.
Get ready for crazy to ramp up to 11 after this- this episode is sorta the starting gun on a big four way race.
Obviously someone or something wants Earth and Mars to fight so that they can do their dirty work behind the scenes undistracted.
Oh man YOU BETTER GET READY. You have know idea how fast this rollercoaster ride of a show is going to get.
You're in the hot zone now. The first 2-3 episodes are a crawl, but then they start walking, then running, etc. From here on out every episode is a treat.
(No Spoilers) Regarding radiation, I totally get it, because of his behavior up to this point, it's easy to see Holden as always overestimating certain consequences but we need to also remember the setting of the show (protomolecule not included) is highly science based and accurate more often than not. For another excellent and historic exploration on the effects of different doses of radiation on human anatomy is the HBO mini-series "Chernobyl" which I can also highly recommend. Let's not forget Holden also has significant experience in space with the UN Navy which not only would have required dealing with radiation but also radiation safety and protocols not unlike those serving on nuclear powered ships today, especially submarines. The effects of high dose radiation can be very counter intuitive because as you said, the damage usually happens at the genetic level but those effects are often not fully realized until the cell tries conducting normal cellular function, driven by DNA and RNA instruction which has been severely damaged.
Like blue prints for construction, those molecules (for all intents and purposes) instruct all protein synthesis and cellular function (with some exceptions but not important here) and just like a construction site, once the blue prints are damaged severely, errors occur when they are read, and then those errors can compound over time so from minutes, to hours, to days, effects of those errors will start to manifest compounding errors every single moment until the cell starts to disintegrate physically. It is entirely possible to be irradiated with a high enough dose, you can have a 100% prognosis of death within days and still carry on for a short time without even realizing it. So given everything we know up to this point, if I were Miller and just heard that from Holden, I would start making my peace with my fast approaching mortality much of which will be unbearably painful.
Well said.
Yaaahh I love that I'm getting another of your reactions so soon.. wohooo you and your editor 😁. No spoiler here cause you already seen it, but I think you're going to love this episode. On another note, I always get deeply (😁😉) upset when you dis on Millers hat or hair..... so tonight I gave myself a Miller haircut 😁😁. Love that you are slowly turning to team Miller.
Oh the Miller love is just starting 😅 it’s about to go full send
@@funnylilgalreacts the writing on This show has the fantastic ability to change our opinion of these characters - I’ve lost count of how many time I’ve disliked a new one, then come to love or at least really respect them- & a couple have gone the other way. Just like in real life, some people are fantastic- until you really get to know ‘em!
JJ abrams did this "mystery box" thing is his shows. He would develop these mysteries that, albeit were very interesting, he didn't seem like he had fully thought out how to resolve these mysteries he created. It's why I feel LOST didn't really get resolved and had a ton of plot lines just dropped. Where as the authors of The Expanse had all this planned, and many books were out by the time the series started AND one of the writers was heavily involved in the show. Because of this, the show makes all of the little references to things that will come up later, because they have a plan for the story. You are probably missing a ton, just cause it's your first watch through, and if you were to go back and re-watch, you'll notice them.
Both writers were heavily involved in the show.
@@hoos3014 Oh... I thought it was mainly Ty Frank. Or was he just in the media more?
Degraaf probably got the Bush Naval Shipyard reveal from his connections on Mars and Fred Johnson got the information from Lopez' chip ;)
Your expression at 21:58. Uh-huh. Yep. The books do it too.
They were written by two authors from varying character perspectives. Chapter titles are the name of the character you're viewing from. They'd apparently trade chapters so I think the endings were, on a certain level, them one upping each other.
I'm not sure this was covered before, the full opening is probably because the first three seasons originally aired on Syfy which means the episodes had to be a set length. Sometimes they shorten the opening to accommodate more scenes and sometimes they don't.
Start of reaction: "All of these answers I'm getting"
End of reaction: so many questions
Expanse: 😏😏😏
Every. Time.
Wes Chatham is at Dragon Con here in Georgia, but I couldn't go to go see him. A well maybe another time.
So many plot twist, great interpretation 😎😇🤨
Not a mistake; Shed (Actor) was credited in the 1st 4 episodes, and they used footage from that, hence, he is credited in this episode, even though he was not seen.
@27:25 - The word you're searching for is "strong-willed". Possibly bordering on "know it all".
Everyone is working an angle except Amos🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😎
Amos never has an angle, I love that about him!
pfff, he just mostly aligns with a person he follows based on his assesment of how good a person is
Just to help you tie up an end you seemed to have missed - the violence in the Blue Falcon was the attempted hit on Holden by Erinwright and they briefly give you the heads up display view from Kenzo (his spy) setting it up before they walked in and why it all starts with him running out. Nobody accounted for the fact - to butcher a quote… “They have an Amos”!
Anyway, you’ll see him again!
29:44 THAT VISION OF EACH SEASON IS DEPENDENT ON EACH PERSON HOW IT CONNECTS WITH THE SERIES, IT HAPPENS TO ME THE SAME AS YOU, THE SERIES HAS STARTED TO BECOME INTERESTING FROM THE FIRST EPISODES AND I FEEL THAT THE SECOND AND THE THIRD SEASON I STILL DON'T SEE IT ( AND I WILL SEE IT TOGETHER WITH YOUR REACTIONS) I AM SO EXCITED
PSDT: AMOS IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER
After watching a few episodes (it took many tries because I was on parental leave with a fresh newborn that demanded a lot of time) I went and got the books. Season 1 - 3 are a mix of the first three books, but they do make some alterations for reasons I'm unsure of. Nothing breaking the story, and the major points all get covered.
The 'Don Quixote' reference from Holden's mom tells you nearly everything you need to know about his character. Also, Rocinante is the protagonist's horse in the book.
I don't want to give anything away with Holden and Miller, but you're right and wrong about those two. You have a few more "holy crap I didn't see that coming" moments left this season.
It's been fun 'seeing' this again. I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions on some of the key episodes.
Always great to check out the opening - it changes often and hints at puzzles to come
episodes 9 & 10 aired at the same time originally. could be why the pace seemed off if watched separately.
A quick note about the intro credits: They change every season, and sometimes during the season, usually with little hints peppered throughout about what to expect later in the season.
These reactions dash my hopes of one day charming Lilgal with my epic fedora collection
Sandman AND Expanse reactions?? Subbed.
Thank you!
Gotta take the pencils!?! (??)
"Shut up, Holden!" -- love it!
Nasty Bio-stuff. So many puzzle pieces. Hmm.
Where the books start and end within the series doesn't align neatly with their starts and ends when it comes to the first three seasons. Season two starts with material from book 2, and book 1 ends half way through season 2. Book 3 starts with the "splat" moment seven episodes into season 2. Seasons 4 to 6 do align with the books. I think this is mostly to do with the fact that a large chunk of Avasarala's storyline in the first two seasons has been added for the show resulting everything being shoved further into the run to accomodate it. She doesn't show up until the second book with the first switching alternately between Holden's and Miller's perspectives.
I wonder if Frank Degraff was investigating the ships to try to get back in good graces with Mars.
Like everyone says it starts slow but now we are hooked.
oh you are just getting started...buckle up
One of the best things about this show is that there are virtually no "throwaway" lines or moments. Eventually, ALL of this comes full circle...so pay attention. You'll love where this is all going. ;)
"testicles are a issue?" you just made me laugh out my lunch! u should really get into standup comedy :)
HAHAHA yes let's all pronounce Anubis just like Amos!
Ann You Bus is how it’s pronounced henceforth.
In order to introduce all of the characters, both in Space and on Earth, the showrunners blended the first two books of the series together and spread them through the first two seasons.
Look up "Acute Radiation Syndrome", yeah, Holden wasn't exaggerating about them being dead (baring future magic medicine), and it's not a particularly nice way to die either.
Speaking about Crisjen's voice, do you remember hearing it in Arcane?
Yup! That’s how I ended up watching The Expanse. Everyone was like “oh if you like her in this you’ll like her in The Expanse…” they are 💯 correct!
4:52 It's not that big... it's really big compared to other ships in the expanse, but it's only 2.5 km long and 1 km wide. It definitely is a city amongst the stars - but not a planet.
given your reactions to this, I would love to see Westworld reaction as well. Though that show is not finished yet.
On the one hand, they probably got about as much radiation dose as some of the workers present during the Chernobyl incident. And most of those either died or had significant radiation injuries and cancers. Probably not as much exposure as the very first firemen who were sent right in front of the reactor, standing next to pieces of the core; but certainly more than most of the later liquidators who came in to clean up and had taken at least the basic precautions and had exposure limits. Still, Holden and Miller got enough acute dose to kill if not treated appropriately.
Good thing because of the abundance of hard radiation in space, they must have good treatments for radiation exposure in general. But still probably not much treatment can do for acute mega-doses.
The thing is, there's no real indication that Holden has any sort of dosimeter that he's checking that would tell him how much of an exposure they had. More he's probably been trained to know the signs of acute radiation exposure (tastes and sensations, flashes of light inside the eyeball for cosmic rays (which probably doesn't factor here but astronauts would be aware of them), etc) plus experienced a bit of it from his time working in space, that he could tell it was a BAD exposure; so in his mind they're basically dead since if you get enough dose to notice you got a bad dose, it's gotta be a BAD dose.
Every episode is a banger ;)
Why they name all these characters who are then killed off an episode or three later: lazy screenwriters have "characters" named "angry guard #3" or "muscular Marine". Good writers put in the effort to think about even tertiary characters, what their motivations are, how they got to where they are now. This series, and the books it is based upon, was written by *very* good writers.
Right around the time season six was released, I finally convinced a coworker to check out The Expanse after weeks of trying. He watched the entire series in five days. It is an addiction.
Frank wasn't loyal to Mars, he was Earth's Ambassador to Mars, and he and Craig planned to retire there.
Just a thought, But was the telescope pointing the wrong way a mistake, Or was it a clue left behind, Pointing to the area with the desk and the data hidden within?
I think Jules Pierre Mao was devastated by her death but his mindset there was more like "my daughter died because of my actions.. the least I can do is make this count for something"
To Dawes' credit, he had Fred Johnson seek out Lionel Polanski, which is why Fred wanted the Rocinante so badly when they got onto Tycho. It's why Fred had the Roci crew seek out Lionel Polanski. With Ceres thrown into a revolt over everything Julie's father caused, he was busy handling matters on Ceres and outsourced the rescue to Fred.
I kind of forgot about that whole storyline… He might not be as bad as I think he is, but I question him every step of the way because I don’t trust him
@@funnylilgalreacts Oh for sure! He's a politician of sorts, he wants Ceres to be a home for belters, and everything else comes second fiddle to that. Admirable goals, but he's still a flawed, manipulative person (he very much reminds me of Chrisjen). I don't think we've met a single politician in the Expanse at this point that's at all trustworthy, as much as some of them may be fun to watch.
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Because it is a beautiful intro :D
Julie was a thing!!! This is how the whole thing started. Obviously Julie was exposed to the spores of this "Protomolecule" when she went to the reactor room. She is becoming. Stay tuned!!!....
Also you know, just like an airplane has a black box that they look for when it crashes, the Donnager has an event recorders and Fred Johnson obtained the tape of that recorder. You're sharp. Hmmmmm I'd thought you'd figure that out.
Well we only know that those ships where build in an earthern shipyard... for all we know, it still could be... like... the mormons who build them :)
It's important to keep in mind that in this show, the 3 "big players", Earth, Mars and Belt are NOT monolithic powerblocks. "Was built by Earth" (not "on" Earth either), does not automatically mean "was built by the UN". Just as "the belt" does not automatically mean "OPA" which is in itself something that's put together from a lot of different factions.
It's been mentioned several times, that the UN would love to build stealth ships but doesn't have the money to pull of a stealth program like Mars did. Mars was able to because their whole economy and workforce is focused on only 2 things in the end: terraforming and military. With Earth and the UN it's different. For example, the UN Navy has more ships than the Martian one but the Martians have better, more modern ships.
Likely, UN vessels are also built at Mao's shipyards.
@@kirkdarling4120 as far as I can figure, the "Bush naval shipyards" are not necessarily owned by him but also build ships for private contracts in addition to government ones.
@@NewAeonWarlord It would be pretty difficult to build a fleet of stealth ships in someone else's shipyard without anyone knowing. Unless only the engines came from Bush and the ships were built in Mao's facilities elsewhere.
@@kirkdarling4120 true, that might actually be what was happening. We only really know about the drives except for what Fred Johnson said and his info came from detailed drive signatures the Donnager recorded, so....
The last person she saw as she died was Miller if you pay close attention
Now you know the name Proto Molecule and both Holden and Miller did receive a lethal dose of radiation. The results of this episode are very important in the future. Just keep going.
You could probably pre record the phrase “ best episode so far”. You’re going to be saying it a lot lol
Don’t worry. All my theories got shot to shit too. The Expanse was really good at keeping you off balance all thru the first season.
Such good show writing.
The Expanse is amazing. It is so real, dystopic. I hope the mankind will learnig to be better. So if will never become to this.
17:28 I wouldn't exactly say that's an accurate description of Naomi, you'll see what I mean the longer the show goes on and especially in season 3.
Yeah, this show is addictive, the story, the people, the world building.
Can not wait for you to get to "the good stuff". Honestly, its all good stuff.
Holden runs a bit slow on the uptake sometimes...that's because he's actually rather naive about evil. It takes him a moment to realize it when he sees it.
Avasarala knows that Fred Johnson is telling the truth because DeGraaf's information corroborates it. But nobody else knows that Avasarala knows Fred is telling the truth.
DeGraaf loved Mars, but he was loyal to Earth.
I dunno why you don't like Millers' hat. It was cool! However, I LUV your reactions to this series.Your theories?... Keep on doing it! That is the charm of this series, keeps ya'll guessing!
I beg for the hat back at some point 👀
@@funnylilgalreacts Hat or haircut, you can't win