Thank you for sharing your very interesting collection, otherwise most of the viewers would never see some of these fine examples of the air gun makers handicraft!
You're right about the Webley pistols, they were extremely well made, owned a couple of them in the past. The last l exchanged for the Walther L53, another beautifully made pistol. l currently own a Feinwerkbau 300SU that l bought new in about 1976/7...it still looks like new..
Nice to see you in TH-cam, well done. I used to come at west London shooting club in Uxbridge before pandemic. I love all of your air pistol collection. All the best.
Excellent video. Do a few more look forward to them. I have a few Diana's, tempests, hurricanes, tell, eb9, hb22, hyscore, rohm, and other vintage pistols, so much more fun to shoot than modern ones. Keep them coming matt.
@@dkjngl1 I really got interested in the Webley senior pistol, do you have idea how much they are worth nowdays? Performance seemes good and it's now bulky like modern ones.
£200 for a nice one but the later all steel premier’s are better to shoot and almost as lovely and should be £150 for a nice one 👍 I prefer .177 as they have a flatter trajectory
I had a premier back in the day. Loved it. The barrel catch broke and I swapped it in this condition with a school chum for a knife he’d brought back from a school trip to Europe. In 77 I bought a tempest I think it was called. Sold that almost immediately, wasn’t much use to a student (too noisy for the bed sit telephone directory target practice I had in mind) and I’d blown student grant money on it. 😂
I’m a big fan of the tempest, one of my first air pistols back in the 1980’s. One features in the next video. Tricky to zero in as the sight adjustment is very crude but they are accurate little pistols. Cheers
My Tempest is coming up in pt3 which has just been filmed. One of my first air pistols too. Very pointable. Recently an airgun forum asked what our favourite spring pistol was, I said for shooting it was my Webley Tempest and Feinwerkbau 90. Cheers1
Same here, it was a combination of my first air pistol, a record LP2, my Tempest, and using my mates Daisy 717 that sowed the seed of air pistol appreciation 😊
Great video, have subscribed...I'm a Brit and just retired in Germany. Was intrigued about the Record LP range of pistols so have just purchased the LP2 and LP3. Brilliant little pistols and perfect for a spot of target shooting in the cellar! Thanks for putting me on to them. These are so much better in every respect (in my opinion) compared to the Umarex replica Ruger and Buckmark spring offerings which are roughly the same price from German dealers. These are solid with a real pedigree....A real blast from the past. Are they really still made in Germany though?? They look identical to the vintage FB Record guns and still come with 'Made in West Germany' stamped on the side. On the website, box, instructions and pistol there is no mention of China (or the like) at all! A hard one to believe at the purchase price, but I can find no evidence to say that they are not still made here....what do you think???
Hi, and welcome to the channel, be sure to have a look around! I think they are still made in Germany, FB record was bought by Akah DE, I believe they use the same tooling that FB Record used (FB stands for the founder Fritz Barthelmes, who started at Mauser, and like so many of the best airgun makers, originated in Zella Mehlis) I assume they are still made in Germany, although now they are just called Record, not FB record. In part 5 I'll show the Record Champion air pistol, a great design with a side lever and 12 shot magazine. You're fortunate to live in Germany if you like old air guns, I bought a lot of 10m match rifles from egun, a gun auction site in Germany. Before we left Europe they would deliver rare German airguns to your door in UK for £20!! most sellers on egun won't send to the uk these days. Cheers, Matt
@@dkjngl1 Hi Matt.....Funny you should mention about the joys of living in Germany!....I'm already looking at more vintage stuff over here now! When I moved over I sold everything back in the UK and purchased new over here. (very easy to do online with no hassle as you know!) Thanks for the info on the FB Record stuff and interesting about the tooling.....I believe they really are made here then!....a real bargain and a little gem of an air pistol. Look forward to part 5 in this series and I'm enjoying your videos!.........Take care......KEV
Wonderful! Here in the Philippines we had lots of makers as well but now defunct. Good thing new makers came out to replace them. As per air pistols we have here Squires Bingham which later became ArmsCor. But they no longer produce airguns. Another defunct name is Rogunz. They also produced excellent air pistols. I have them in my collection too...
Dude, you are a great shot! When I shoot my Crosman 600, the pellets go all over the place. The barrel must be warn out. I also have a Crosman 38T . The 38T is very accurate. Thanks for a very enjoyable video.
Thanks mate, it’s a very accurate pistol but often jams. Sight alignment-trigger control-follow through… that’s my recipe for accurate pistol shooting. Maybe your 600 would prefer different pellets? Mine likes Webley Accuoel. The 38t looks nice. Cheers
Hello, very nice Collection! I have a Question, how many Meters are the Target from your Position by shoot with the FB Record LP2? Thanks for your Answer from Germany!
Guten tag, the target is 10 meters, the same for most of the pistols in these videos. I try to zero them so they all hit 20 millimetre’s high at 10 meters, that way I just aim at the bottom of the spinner and it should hit near the middle. I have had several Record LP2’s, some are more accurate than others. The LP2 was the first air pistol I had as a teenager, so it has particular sentimental value. Danke from London
@dkjngl1 hello and many thanks for your Answer! Im collect sinze more then 20 years Haenel Airguns and now i have became a Record LP1. It Is a very cheap Gun, but she is funny and build since early 1960. For plinking at 10 Meters is she very good and make Fun. Last week i buy a new LP2. and this Pistol is not so accurate. OK, thanks for your Answer, sorry for my english and have a nice Weekend!
Thanks, no Crosman six shooters only because I don’t really like replica’s… however I do have a 6” umerex S&W 586 that I got for IPAS and I love it. That’ll feature in the last episode as they are discontinued so I consider them collectible now. Cheers
@@dkjngl1 ok - just that have been fascinated by the hahn 45 since i was in my teens ( they were firearm cert only then so i had to wait a long time ) i recently restored one which had many bits missing , ( which i put on my youtube channel ) and the design is audacious . if you had included it , however you may have had to resort to the same close range as your gat .
I’m loving the reviews, especially when I see something in my collection. The only downside to the videos is that it makes me want to expand my collection! When will the next part be out please?
Ptdunk, Having just aquired an almost mint, boxed LP53. I would like you to tell me how do you hit such small targets at such range. Mine doesn't shoot accurately no matter how I hold it.
Best piece of advice I can give you is make sure you exercise good follow through. If you watch the video again you’ll see I keep aiming at the target for a couple of seconds after I shoot it. This makes all the difference to accuracy. I hold it loosely and let it recoil as much as it wants, much easier to do that repeatedly than with any kind of firm grip. Then take the time to roughly zero it in, then do a pellet test, I try AA field, JSB express, Bisley practice and Falcon Accuracy plus. One of those will always group tighter than the others. Then do a final zero adjustment with that pellet. Takes ages, but I find they always seem inaccurate until that final zero and then it all comes together. Hope this helps
@@dkjngl1 Thank you for your advice which I shall try. You have answered my question when you stated follow-through and loose grip. I have been using H&N Excite. I have RWS R10 which I haven't yey tried. I have just ordered some JSB RS to try. I am toying with the idea of fitting a Protek Supplies LP53 kit which does away with the double concentric spring arrangement and allegedly increases the velocity and calms down the recoil. Many thanks, Ptdunk, for taking you time in answering my questions. Greatly appreciated.
@@dkjngl1 Well I have to say that your advice with loose grip and the importance of follow-through is sound. The pistol has suddenly become accurate. I was using H&N Excite before then I tried RWS R10 Match which are much better in this pistol. With the H&N I was getting 375 fps and with the R10 a nice 420 fps. (Strange thing is that R10s are notably tighter fitting). The pistol is in stock form with its double concentric mainsprings and leather piston washer. I have read that these can be modified to produce 500 fps with reduced recoil and buzz by using a single cut down HW30 mainspring and a delrin guide and reducing the transfer port size.
Loving the series and looking forward to the next. I picked up a FWB65 that hasn't been used for 20 years and needs a service. Any recommendations in the Surrey and West London area?
Try ‘Centra’ they are the Feinwerkbau importers. I’ve had spares off them in the past and they do offer a servicing service. They’re also based in Woking Cheers, Matt
@@dkjngl1 Hi Mat, chrono'd the FWB65 and it is pushing out a steady 2.9fpe. Read a few more reviews and it seems this is close to as good as it gets. I have decided to leave it alone for now but will try Centra one day. The 65 gets another outing tonight at Bisley.
@@jdaustin8618 Hi, that sounds about right for power. If you have a look at the breech seal when it's cocked you can get a good idea if it's due for a service. Old seals are an off white colour and often are worn towards the hole at the breech end. newer ones are blue or green. I shoot HFT at Bisley (BFTO) and am planning to attend both the monthly Pistol HFT comp with my FWB90 and the Vintage comp with various golden oldies. If you see me there say hello. Cheers, Matt
Yes, if you look closely you can see little coloured dots under and in front of each pistol, these indicate what pellet I had to use so I didn’t get it wrong when filming. Black is 4.52mm 8.44gr AIr Arms diabolo Field, yellow is 4.5mm 7.33gr Falcon Accuracy plus, Green is 4.5mm 8.2gr Bisley Practice and Red is 4.52mm 7.87gr JSB Express. The Crosman 600 likes .22 Webley Accupel. Glad you liked it. Cheers
Great video, great collection of iconic air pistols…. And you’re not a bad shot chap .. keep the videos coming … 👍🙂
Cheers fellah
Nice Collection there..Great Shooting too!😆
Thanks
Thank you for sharing your very interesting collection, otherwise most of the viewers would never see some of these fine examples of the air gun makers handicraft!
Thank you, there is such a huge variety of mechanisms in these old air pistols. More to come in the spring. Cheers
Thank you for sharing your collection, the video is as nice as it's content.
Thank you, I’m hoping to do the next one soon
You're right about the Webley pistols, they were extremely well made, owned a couple of them in the past. The last l exchanged for the Walther L53, another beautifully made pistol. l currently own a Feinwerkbau 300SU that l bought new in about 1976/7...it still looks like new..
All lovely airguns, I’ve just had my LP53 converted to CO2 for something a bit different. Cheers
Great video. And you are a great shot! Many thanks.
Thank you very much 😊
Nice to see you in TH-cam, well done.
I used to come at west London shooting club in Uxbridge before pandemic.
I love all of your air pistol collection. All the best.
Thanks mate, we still shoot at Uxbridge occasionally, more at Bisley these days. WLR is still a nice club. Cheers
Again, thanks for presenting this. What an interesting collection.
Great collection and presentation.
Excellent video. Do a few more look forward to them. I have a few Diana's, tempests, hurricanes, tell, eb9, hb22, hyscore, rohm, and other vintage pistols, so much more fun to shoot than modern ones.
Keep them coming matt.
Thanks, I agree the sheer variety of mechanisms of these old air pistols is very interesting to me, and they are great to shoot. Cheers
Great video. Love the pistols. I have a Hy-score in .22. My dad purchased it new in 1963. An iconic pistol.
Nice one, I have a later UK made Hyscore that will feature in part 4. Amazing mechanism. Cheers!
Loved the video. Lovely examples of some classic era air pistols.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
👍😉 nice video beautiful collection
My golly Matt,remind me NOT to draw on you! Thanks for another interesting article,Trev
No need for a showdown Trev! Glad you liked it, thanks mate.
Love it!
Cheers
Everything was much more stylish and on most part properly made in the past
Absolutely
@@dkjngl1 I really got interested in the Webley senior pistol, do you have idea how much they are worth nowdays? Performance seemes good and it's now bulky like modern ones.
£200 for a nice one but the later all steel premier’s are better to shoot and almost as lovely and should be £150 for a nice one 👍 I prefer .177 as they have a flatter trajectory
@@dkjngl1 Thank you
can't wait for more of your informative and enjoyable video's, love your knowledge on these beauty's fun to watch
Thanks mate
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I had a premier back in the day. Loved it. The barrel catch broke and I swapped it in this condition with a school chum for a knife he’d brought back from a school trip to Europe. In 77 I bought a tempest I think it was called. Sold that almost immediately, wasn’t much use to a student (too noisy for the bed sit telephone directory target practice I had in mind) and I’d blown student grant money on it. 😂
I’m a big fan of the tempest, one of my first air pistols back in the 1980’s. One features in the next video.
Tricky to zero in as the sight adjustment is very crude but they are accurate little pistols.
Cheers
My first gun was a webley tempest i loved it
My Tempest is coming up in pt3 which has just been filmed. One of my first air pistols too. Very pointable. Recently an airgun forum asked what our favourite spring pistol was, I said for shooting it was my Webley Tempest and Feinwerkbau 90. Cheers1
@@dkjngl1 tremendous i can't wait for part 3. That's the pistol that started my interest in airguns.
Same here, it was a combination of my first air pistol, a record LP2, my Tempest, and using my mates Daisy 717 that sowed the seed of air pistol appreciation 😊
Great video, have subscribed...I'm a Brit and just retired in Germany. Was intrigued about the Record LP range of pistols so have just purchased the LP2 and LP3. Brilliant little pistols and perfect for a spot of target shooting in the cellar! Thanks for putting me on to them. These are so much better in every respect (in my opinion) compared to the Umarex replica Ruger and Buckmark spring offerings which are roughly the same price from German dealers. These are solid with a real pedigree....A real blast from the past. Are they really still made in Germany though?? They look identical to the vintage FB Record guns and still come with 'Made in West Germany' stamped on the side. On the website, box, instructions and pistol there is no mention of China (or the like) at all! A hard one to believe at the purchase price, but I can find no evidence to say that they are not still made here....what do you think???
Hi, and welcome to the channel, be sure to have a look around! I think they are still made in Germany, FB record was bought by Akah DE, I believe they use the same tooling that FB Record used (FB stands for the founder Fritz Barthelmes, who started at Mauser, and like so many of the best airgun makers, originated in Zella Mehlis) I assume they are still made in Germany, although now they are just called Record, not FB record. In part 5 I'll show the Record Champion air pistol, a great design with a side lever and 12 shot magazine. You're fortunate to live in Germany if you like old air guns, I bought a lot of 10m match rifles from egun, a gun auction site in Germany. Before we left Europe they would deliver rare German airguns to your door in UK for £20!! most sellers on egun won't send to the uk these days.
Cheers,
Matt
@@dkjngl1 Hi Matt.....Funny you should mention about the joys of living in Germany!....I'm already looking at more vintage stuff over here now! When I moved over I sold everything back in the UK and purchased new over here. (very easy to do online with no hassle as you know!) Thanks for the info on the FB Record stuff and interesting about the tooling.....I believe they really are made here then!....a real bargain and a little gem of an air pistol. Look forward to part 5 in this series and I'm enjoying your videos!.........Take care......KEV
Amazing collection. Gobsmacked
Awesome video I have most of those too!
Thanks, check out part 1 as well.
exellent , thank you
Cheers
Wonderful! Here in the Philippines we had lots of makers as well but now defunct. Good thing new makers came out to replace them. As per air pistols we have here Squires Bingham which later became ArmsCor. But they no longer produce airguns. Another defunct name is Rogunz. They also produced excellent air pistols. I have them in my collection too...
I've never heard of those manufacturers, thanks
Great video Matt, as always, and some nice shooting. I think you will have whetted a few appetites to try to get some of those goodies you feature.
Thanks mate, that's the plan as you know. Hope you didn't mind the quote, I literally couldn't have put it better myself!
Cool
And yes I subscribed 👍😉
Thanks! 😊
Dude, you are a great shot! When I shoot my Crosman 600, the pellets go all over the place. The barrel must be warn out. I also have a Crosman 38T . The 38T is very accurate. Thanks for a very enjoyable video.
Thanks mate,
it’s a very accurate pistol but often jams.
Sight alignment-trigger control-follow through… that’s my recipe for accurate pistol shooting. Maybe your 600 would prefer different pellets? Mine likes Webley Accuoel.
The 38t looks nice.
Cheers
@@dkjngl1 Thanks for the advice.
Cant wait for p3!
Hello, very nice Collection! I have a Question, how many Meters are the Target from your Position by shoot with the FB Record LP2? Thanks for your Answer from Germany!
Guten tag, the target is 10 meters, the same for most of the pistols in these videos. I try to zero them so they all hit 20 millimetre’s high at 10 meters, that way I just aim at the bottom of the spinner and it should hit near the middle. I have had several Record LP2’s, some are more accurate than others. The LP2 was the first air pistol I had as a teenager, so it has particular sentimental value. Danke from London
@dkjngl1 hello and many thanks for your Answer! Im collect sinze more then 20 years Haenel Airguns and now i have became a Record LP1. It Is a very cheap Gun, but she is funny and build since early 1960. For plinking at 10 Meters is she very good and make Fun. Last week i buy a new LP2. and this Pistol is not so accurate. OK, thanks for your Answer, sorry for my english and have a nice Weekend!
enjoyed that thanks . hope the rest of the series are on the way . dont you like the crosman six shooters ?
Thanks, no Crosman six shooters only because I don’t really like replica’s… however I do have a 6” umerex S&W 586 that I got for IPAS and I love it. That’ll feature in the last episode as they are discontinued so I consider them collectible now. Cheers
@@dkjngl1 ok - just that have been fascinated by the hahn 45 since i was in my teens ( they were firearm cert only then so i had to wait a long time ) i recently restored one which had many bits missing , ( which i put on my youtube channel ) and the design is audacious . if you had included it , however you may have had to resort to the same close range as your gat .
Is the FB lp2 better than the lp77 ?..
When's the part 3 coming matt
Looking forward to it
Sometime in the new year, gotta wait till the lights good for filming. It’ll happen though. Cheers, Matt
Nice 👍
I’m loving the reviews, especially when I see something in my collection.
The only downside to the videos is that it makes me want to expand my collection!
When will the next part be out please?
Hi, I’ll be filming the next two parts in the spring, glad you are enjoying them. Be prepared for some more ideas to add to your collection! Cheers
When will the next two parts be uploaded?
Hopefully get to film them over the summer, and now there’s going to be three more parts 😊
When will part 3 be uploaded?
In the spring, thanks
Ptdunk, Having just aquired an almost mint, boxed LP53. I would like you to tell me how do you hit such small targets at such range. Mine doesn't shoot accurately no matter how I hold it.
Best piece of advice I can give you is make sure you exercise good follow through. If you watch the video again you’ll see I keep aiming at the target for a couple of seconds after I shoot it. This makes all the difference to accuracy.
I hold it loosely and let it recoil as much as it wants, much easier to do that repeatedly than with any kind of firm grip.
Then take the time to roughly zero it in, then do a pellet test, I try AA field, JSB express, Bisley practice and Falcon Accuracy plus. One of those will always group tighter than the others. Then do a final zero adjustment with that pellet.
Takes ages, but I find they always seem inaccurate until that final zero and then it all comes together.
Hope this helps
@@dkjngl1 Thank you for your advice which I shall try. You have answered my question when you stated follow-through and loose grip. I have been using H&N Excite. I have RWS R10 which I haven't yey tried. I have just ordered some JSB RS to try. I am toying with the idea of fitting a Protek Supplies LP53 kit which does away with the double concentric spring arrangement and allegedly increases the velocity and calms down the recoil.
Many thanks, Ptdunk, for taking you time in answering my questions.
Greatly appreciated.
@@dkjngl1 Well I have to say that your advice with loose grip and the importance of follow-through is sound. The pistol has suddenly become accurate. I was using H&N Excite before then I tried RWS R10 Match which are much better in this pistol. With the H&N I was getting 375 fps and with the R10 a nice 420 fps. (Strange thing is that R10s are notably tighter fitting). The pistol is in stock form with its double concentric mainsprings and leather piston washer.
I have read that these can be modified to produce 500 fps with reduced recoil and buzz by using a single cut down HW30 mainspring and a delrin guide and reducing the transfer port size.
Loving the series and looking forward to the next. I picked up a FWB65 that hasn't been used for 20 years and needs a service. Any recommendations in the Surrey and West London area?
Try ‘Centra’ they are the Feinwerkbau importers. I’ve had spares off them in the past and they do offer a servicing service.
They’re also based in Woking
Cheers,
Matt
@@dkjngl1 Thank you Matt
Please let me know how it goes if you do get it serviced as I’d be interested for future reference. Thanks
@@dkjngl1 Hi Mat, chrono'd the FWB65 and it is pushing out a steady 2.9fpe. Read a few more reviews and it seems this is close to as good as it gets. I have decided to leave it alone for now but will try Centra one day. The 65 gets another outing tonight at Bisley.
@@jdaustin8618 Hi, that sounds about right for power. If you have a look at the breech seal when it's cocked you can get a good idea if it's due for a service. Old seals are an off white colour and often are worn towards the hole at the breech end. newer ones are blue or green. I shoot HFT at Bisley (BFTO) and am planning to attend both the monthly Pistol HFT comp with my FWB90 and the Vintage comp with various golden oldies. If you see me there say hello. Cheers,
Matt
Great video, do you remember what brand , weight of pellet you were using ? Great cheers shane uk
Yes, if you look closely you can see little coloured dots under and in front of each pistol, these indicate what pellet I had to use so I didn’t get it wrong when filming. Black is 4.52mm 8.44gr AIr Arms diabolo Field, yellow is 4.5mm 7.33gr Falcon Accuracy plus, Green is 4.5mm 8.2gr Bisley Practice and Red is 4.52mm 7.87gr JSB Express. The Crosman 600 likes .22 Webley Accupel. Glad you liked it. Cheers
Пушки, огонь.😃👍
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How much $ do u have in these awesome guns ? After watching part 1 I wanted it all. Great content mate🙏
A couple of quid indeed…bh I try not to think about it! There is always room for one more though. Cheers mate
When is part 3 and 4 coming?
I’m just finishing a nice video about an antique target air rifle, I’ll do 3&4 after that. Cheers
Wooow!!
Cheers!
If part one was 1910-1940 shouldn’t this one have been 1941-1972?
I got the Zenit after I did pt1, couldn’t resist featuring it in pt2. Well spotted