"PEOPLE WHO ARE BLOODY USEFUL IN A CRISIS"....thank you for reminding me of my wonderful father....he was always running toward a crisis and literally saving someone's life...I lost count of how many times I saw him do that. Everyone loved my father!
@smartypants Oh I just saw you yesterday! I think your comment was on Joe Rogan with James Lindsay and I almost replied but it was a stupid question, I guess I'll ask now. I think you said you were a UK teacher concerned about this postmodern movement teaching kids about racism and 'diversity', how exactly do you fight ideas when kids are being indoctrinated with this? I have a bit more control of it because I'm in higher education and can fight back with essays and class discussions. And you should watch James Lindsay's lecture at Sovereign Nations ( th-cam.com/video/3jLNgLABuTw/w-d-xo.html ) especially at around 39;00, he explains how this critical theory movement is totalitarian. Inclusive is now hijacked to mean if someone finds language offensive you implement compelled speech codes, but it's worse because people are afraid to speak and censor themselves, Diversity is hijacked to mean to hire critical theorists because you can only have diversity on their terms which is 'authentic' lived experience, another offensive thing is the presence of white people reinforcing hegemonic power so you make black only spaces (which they call desegregation, i.e. Harvard graduation), and people are micromanaged by administrative bureaucracy who go to meetings without them and implement policies (affirmative actions i.e. California's Proposition 16).
@smartypants Here is another thing that might help (it's a google doc because youtube keeps censoring it!). docs.google.com/document/d/1HjMkrqB-LLQXswxR6WZtCfsctrRQMwoc_68clktCIl4/edit?usp=sharing
@Martin Isreb Aww scared of coming off as a loony? Put yer ego aside, and your precious sense of authority and normality. Maybe try to entertain an idea without having to hold it as true or false.
Cut and paste an image and apply a basic, readily available filter preset? If Jordan Peterson hired a whole team to do that, he's been taken for a ride.
@@ManuelCastro-ns5sd you're the kind of person who believes that you know everything, figured out life and don't need advice from anyone. I've met such people a LOT. If something was found to be profound by someone, why do you have to downplay them. Coming to the point, the video is full of wisdom. I had selected a Hindu God, Hanuman as my ideal being. Now I realise that it is too much and I should start lower. There's no person in History who is as devotee and knowledgeable person as Hanuman.
@@jenesaisvraimentpasquoimet8473 dont know about him but for me he cured me of depression when I flunked my exams he got me through that and built my character such that I'm now a straight A student he almost feels like he speaks the words i can't put into being in his lectures and i love all of them all in all hes like the teacher you would've loved to have but never did then found on the internet
@@apimpnamedslickback5936 But where to start to listen to his lectures? Is there a base from where to start? Are there videos in a row etc etc... Thank you my guy I really need help
I dropped out of college and felt as useful as a door wedge. After that I started watching your lectures and I’ve drastically changed my life and put pieces back together. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and beliefs. You have no Idea.
Hey man. I've been there. (Dropped out of uni and moved back in with my parents). Feel free to pm me if you need some advice or just someone to went too :) Life gets better, trust me.
@¿Eres Cristiano? I would make sure you’re doing it for the right reasons. (not video games.) immediately put together a plan to start learning useful things so you can be of value to society. Don’t ever slouch your shoulders when you tell someone you dropped out either. You’ll be fine my friend.
I've been there as well. I dropped out and fall into a pit of loneliness and depression. My dad talked to me one day, he wasn't mad or angry or bothered (I was really afraid of that), he was calm and relaxed and for the first time in many years he was just chatting with me. He gave me courage and motivation to do what I wanted, no matter what it was. I felt relieved and started doing some job postings, I ended up on a really nice job with great people and slowly improved myself until I moved out. The thing is, I was completely capable of achieving those things on my own, but wasn't until I felt accepted and loved that I found the strenght to improve and progress with my life.
"When you are brought before synagogues, rulers and authorities, do not worry about how you will defend yourselves or what you will say, for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that time what you should say." (Luke 12:11-12)
"Bro, you don't need to write or rehearse your speech, just get up and shoot from the hip, it's gonna be totally fine!" ~ some childish fool who failed that class. This is why you don't get your advice straight out of old books written by hedgerow philosophers and goat herders.
@@MiaogisTeas That scripture isn’t saying to just wing it. You would still prepare on trial, however it’s just saying do not be anxious and try to have faith. In many cases recorded in the Bible that is what has happened.
wait holy fuck i thought it was from 2015 or something i thought the lapse he kinda suffered would stay at least a bit, but no the legend is back on track and fuck does it feels great
The good thing about holding someone like Jesus as an example is that it's an unreachable goal, so there will never be that point where you reach your goal and no longer have to improve.
@IxEliteHD Jesus is both fully man and fully God. No human can live a life as virtuous as Jesus did. He was 100% obedient to the father since his first day alive. Every human who ever lived has fallen short of the glory of God every day they have been alive. The only way to be saved is by believing in Jesus, turning from your sins, and walking with Him.
I have been thanking God that He has blessed you to come out the other side of your abyss. I will continue to pray for you and your family. Thank you very much for the truths you are sharing.
I have always found, the better you are in a crisis, the more people resent, detest, avoid, and hate you when the crisis is over. They see you a reminder of how they failed, how they fell short, how they were powerless, and as people don't like to be reminded of that, they want you as far away from them as possible. They will also hate you for doing the right thing, in spite of the cost, all the more so, if it would have cost them less, or even nothing, to do the same, and they did not. They will hate you if they discover the sad elements of their own past, that they use to excuse them of blame for their own bad behaviour, are much much less than they own, and you have not fallen into any of the same behaviours. As the saying goes, "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished."
Thank you for guiding me to discover my true passion and revealing to me where my strengths, skills, and weaknesses are and how to carve the best path for myself in life. We met in 2017 and I’ll never forget our conversation. God bless, Dr. Peterson. Welcome back to the Culture War, good friend.
Now I totally understand why we’re afraid of making a big change in our life. I also understand why we fail to handle big changes. It’s because we feel overwhelmed by the new judge. I’ve experienced it, and failed many times, but now I have it clear. In order to be successful in any new life challenge, we have to create a better self 👍🏻
Thanks JBP for this excellent short clip. Easily grasped by this old carpenter guy, with decent verbal ability and comprehension. Please keep them coming. I know you very bright folks like the longer discussions more, and I myself have the patience to listen to them and do, but many friends just can't sit through them. These smaller digestible clips are very helpful. Hope you are healing well and taking needed rest and breaks - You've done a lot for us all and deserve all the rest you need. Back to work here for this old guy.
Woah! This blew my mind. I can't explain it because I lack the ability to string it in words right now, but I felt when he said that your ideals become your judge and if your ideal is too big for you, it becomes a tyrant!
Never forget that Plato's dialogues are intentionally ironic. Plato believed that logos (essentially speech or reason in Greek) alone is not enough to impart understanding, and that something else is necessary for a person to be brought from ignorance to wisdom. This is why Plato wrote in dialogue form; merely giving someone the answer will not make them understand. One must be able to figure out the answer through their own effort and the dialogue form more closely resembles how we work things out in our head. Furthermore, fictional stories allow for the use of literary devices that a typical treatise does not. Plato uses a variety of literary devices in his dialogues to try to prod the reader in the correct direction without outright giving them the answer. The most important of these is irony, particularly mimetic irony, in which the reader is meant to figure out the correct answer on their own by seeing where the characters went wrong in the dialogue by closely following their reasoning, line by line. If you pay close attention, you will notice that every single Platonic dialogue ends with the person being questioned (the interlocutor) reaching a logically inconsistent conclusion despite Socrates' best attempt to steer them in the right direction (although Socrates never admits this). This is by design. Plato NEVER outright gives the overall message of the dialogue. It is a puzzle meant to be solved by the reader. This is why, in my opinion, philosophy has gone so wrong since Plato. Aristotle and everyone after him took the dialogues at face value and misinterpreted them. We still do this today.
Not trying to refute your overall analysis, but it is worth retaining the essential irony of Plato even writing semi-fictional, poetically influenced dialogues, given his stance with regards to mimetic art (fictional reproductions of material manifestations of immaterial ideas) like statues, paintings, poems and plays, which was highly critical, since he saw them as distracting to the path people should take in the real world, due to their dishonest nature. Through the voice of Socrates in 'the republic' he famously suggested (while possibly being a bit tounge in cheek) that in an ideal state the rulers should chase all of the poets out of the city. While he did specify that in his view works that tried to be as faithful as possible to the thing they were imitating had more dignity than those which heavily distorted or misrepresented reality, it remains to be understood that it was actually Aristotle in 'the poetics' who argued the case for the potential of fictional representations to elicit positive moral action from the person consuming it, as a direct riposte to his teacher's austere position on the matter. I would personally side with latter, as he doesn't throw out the window the notion of hierarchising fiction according to its faithfulness to real life while still enouncing the possibility for stories (particularly tragedies for Aristotle) to impart moral wisdom onto its consumer. Phenomenologically speaking, and here i join up with your conclusion, i think you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who couldn't recount an example of fiction moving them intensely in some positive way, and I don't mean purely on an emotional level.
Socrates was also a war hero who joined the infantry as an older guy and was witnessed being a badass. Hence the general Xenophon’s decision to write his accounts.
Jordan Peterson made me, a person who didn't like reading, read The Republic and a few of the Socratic dialogues just because they would be good for me. The effects of my engagement with literature now, has been invaluable.
Peterson is just amazing. Everytime i hear him, i am astonished by his great and deep knowledge of humans. I don't read a lot, but i think a lot myself, and on how to change oneself, he just says precisely what i ve been thinking. And generally, i can always find myself in what he is saying, it's an experience that most frequently occur when i read books than when i listen to people (although books are written by people), so i am pleased to listen to him.
I was there and then he was telling all this I sunk in the seat because the true hit me. Thank you Dr. Peterson Hopefully you will be back just get your health back. Love you
Recently, I have walked away from one of my best friends (we knew each other since 12), not because he is any kind of addict, he is just a normal family man like everyone. Couple years ago, my dad passed away and I told him about the news. He only expressed his condolence but never asked when & where was the funeral service even though it is roughly 20 mins journey from his home. He didn't even bother sending flower to the funeral. When we were young, he was rather poor but my family always welcomes him at home and never look down at him, treated him to meals and movies. When he was studying at college, my dad tried to help him out by employing him one morning a week with very generous wages. I was very puzzled of my friend's action but that's his decision. More recently, he even demanded me to go extra miles helping him out. That was the final straw. I guess perhaps because my dad have such a special place in my heart, I have created a judge for my own action.
Perhaps you failed to understand why he didn't send flowers or show "your expectations" of courtesy? Perhaps he expected an invitation to the funeral? Or someone he knew died as well, but he didn't want to bring it up at that moment? Etc. Etc. Etc. Culture, upbringing, language, miscommunication, etc. If you do a good deed expecting things to be returned then you did no good deed AT ALL. Did he demand of you or did he ask of you?
Something similar happened to me, sometimes people take you for granted, and you have to do right thing, which is respecting yourself and cutting them from your life
This is so much more useful than those motivational videos that play ambient music and have this speaker yelling "GET UP AT 5AM AND RUN 5 MILES!" Maybe some people are motivated by that, but some of us have to use our brains and convince ourselves that it's worth it.
PLEASE pace yourself, Doctor. You are loved by many and are providing great help. You deserve all the best. Treat yourself as you would someone you are responsible for.
4:49 That's why the Pharisees hated Jesus and had Him killed ... they kept all the rules and thought they were righteous and the standard of holiness. Then Jesus came along and was PERFECT which showed how flawed they and people's idea of holiness was. They kept the rules ... He kept the rules but also loved everybody. That's why true righteousness can only come by faith in Him ... not by earning God's love by following rules and being "good enough" but by believing God loves and accepts us even though we haven't and can't earn it and aren't "good enough." That's the Gospel.
Jesus was tried in Roman court and was subjected to a Roman execution. I cannot believe the Pharisees had the final word in what was at the time a Roman province.
@@maslina10 There are two aspects to consider … the natural and the Divine. From the natural aspect the Pharisees arranged for Jesus to be arrested and crucified: (John 19:6-7, 12, 15-16 NKJV) V6-7 Therefore, when the chief priests and officers saw Him, they cried out, saying, “Crucify Him, crucify Him! ” Pilate said to them, “You take Him and crucify Him, for I find no fault in Him.” The Jews answered him, “We have a law, and according to our law He ought to die, because He made Himself the Son of God.” V12 From then on Pilate sought to release Him, but the Jews cried out, saying, “If you let this Man go, you are not Caesar’s friend. Whoever makes himself a king speaks against Caesar.” V15-16 But they cried out, “Away with Him, away with Him! Crucify Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?” The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar!” Then he delivered Him to them to be crucified. So they took Jesus and led Him away. From the Divine aspect this was part of God’s plan: (Acts 4:27-28 NKJV) “For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose determined before to be done."
A lover of knowledge would not fear death ... they want to know what is next. A lover of the body would want to live for his bodily pleasures and material tokens, the latter would be afraid, whereas Socrates was genuine and practiced what he preached, with integrity. As Socrates stated "does purification not turn out to be what we mentioned in our argument some time ago, namely, to separate the soul as far as possible from the body and accustom it to gather itself and collect itself out of every part of the body and to dwell by itself as far as it can both now and in the future, freed, as it were, from the bonds of the body?" Plato's Five Dialogues, Phaedo 104c/d. He was sent by the Gods and was now being called back by those same Gods, he was at peace with it because be believed in what he spoke!!! Glad you are back!!!
SOMETIMES I SKIP JORDAN PETERSON BC IT'S MY JUDGE, BUT I LEARN BY LITTLE BITS. I HAVE WATCHED WHOLES 2HOUR VIDS BUT IT TAKES TIME TO ASSIMILATE . ALWAYS THANK YOU MR PETERSON
Hey Mr. Peterson, I hope you find this comment and can respond. I was in a philosophy major and quit going to class after 3 months. The reason why I quit is because i realised if I read other people's work it would polute my thoughts on what I was working on. I wanted to be original with no outside source of knowledge. For the past 6 years I have contemplated reality and what is it. I think you would find my work interesting. Thank you for your time and have appreciated your work and videos for many years.
John 8:12 Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
It's kind of amazing that we came up with these ideas thousands of years ago and we are still debating their value and even authenticity. I find greek philosophy more pristine since it is before monotheism became the all encompassing truth and philosophers were really grappling with truth, knowledge, reality and nature from a starting point. It is almost as if man put solely in nature finding his purpose was too complicated so we invented a creator with omniscience to pass on the burden of knowledge
Jordan gets a lot of criticism, I won't ascertain how valid it is, but I used his language structure to great extent on my literature exam. His wisdom helped me achieve the highest result in my school. That's powerful to me. ❤🙏
We all live on borrowed time. Listening to Jordan's advice on efficient methods of borrowing your time. WIll benefit those that may have decided to prematurely cash in on their existence.
"And of course Socrates was a very remarkable man, and we still hear about him today, and we know that he existed and all of those things."- Jordan Peterson
Grace, Peace, n LOVE to all the Elect in KING YESHUA. Those of You who are in that category; Born Again From ABOVE -pray for the New Birth of this man, his Eternal Salvation to GOD'S Glory.
10-30-2020 - - - - - To me Peterson seems to be an architect of thought and an analyst of the structures made by thought. I've often wondered what he visualizes when he pauses to think about something. I would love to spend an hour "watching" what goes on in his head (imagination) when he's thinking about something.
In the last few seconds he says that people can partially embody that judge he talked about earlier but to me there seems to be multiple judges that people ascribe to. The judges seem to be competence, knowledge, and values. There's probably more judges than that though. Or maybe the judges get mixed together really well and we just view it as one judge. Maybe that relates with the trinity or to omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence.
Funny, as part of an Western Art History class, I'm back here again trying to find every bit of videos where Dr. Peterson talks about Socrates and his students life and choices. The High Classical Greek Art was not simply called the "Foundation of Western Philosophy" for funsies.
Starting right at 4:58, with the words "If your current ambition is crushing you" is there any software that can replace JBP with Redskull for that one minute that follows? Ideally with exactly same body language and hand motions and everything. Talking about the Phoenix like process of becoming a better human being that can be a beacon to others and really contribute something real to people around you. That would be a brilliant Redskull meme right there.
Imagine if the charge "corrupting the youth" still existed today. TH-camrs & influencers would be drinking hemlock by the thousands
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Nah the DNC through your local school system, the schools teach children to hate their parents and themselves.
They already are it’s called censorship
just give it time, social media already controls a lot, and does it low key, but as soon as it can be done outright, it will.
wow
"PEOPLE WHO ARE BLOODY USEFUL IN A CRISIS"....thank you for reminding me of my wonderful father....he was always running toward a crisis and literally saving someone's life...I lost count of how many times I saw him do that. Everyone loved my father!
Your ideal father is judging me
You're lucky to have a Dad you can look up to :)
I'm sure they did...its a privilege going through life like that
JBP saved my life. I now aim up every day regardless of the weight I'm carrying.
@smartypants Oh I just saw you yesterday! I think your comment was on Joe Rogan with James Lindsay and I almost replied but it was a stupid question, I guess I'll ask now. I think you said you were a UK teacher concerned about this postmodern movement teaching kids about racism and 'diversity', how exactly do you fight ideas when kids are being indoctrinated with this? I have a bit more control of it because I'm in higher education and can fight back with essays and class discussions.
And you should watch James Lindsay's lecture at Sovereign Nations ( th-cam.com/video/3jLNgLABuTw/w-d-xo.html ) especially at around 39;00, he explains how this critical theory movement is totalitarian. Inclusive is now hijacked to mean if someone finds language offensive you implement compelled speech codes, but it's worse because people are afraid to speak and censor themselves, Diversity is hijacked to mean to hire critical theorists because you can only have diversity on their terms which is 'authentic' lived experience, another offensive thing is the presence of white people reinforcing hegemonic power so you make black only spaces (which they call desegregation, i.e. Harvard graduation), and people are micromanaged by administrative bureaucracy who go to meetings without them and implement policies (affirmative actions i.e. California's Proposition 16).
@smartypants Here is another thing that might help (it's a google doc because youtube keeps censoring it!).
docs.google.com/document/d/1HjMkrqB-LLQXswxR6WZtCfsctrRQMwoc_68clktCIl4/edit?usp=sharing
That's Jesus mindset there, Jordan just preaches it, that's what he claimed, it's the ancient wisdom doing the work, he just teaches
You’re killing it with the thumbnails, I want to deeply thank the team that is behind these videos.
@Martin Isreb Aww scared of coming off as a loony? Put yer ego aside, and your precious sense of authority and normality. Maybe try to entertain an idea without having to hold it as true or false.
@Martin Isreb Oh and your initial assumption is wrong, not even misinformed just wrong, and that's why the rest of what you said is nonsense.
Cut and paste an image and apply a basic, readily available filter preset? If Jordan Peterson hired a whole team to do that, he's been taken for a ride.
Agree
@@patavinity1262 a ride to a hotel in California c:
“The most important step a man can take. It's not the first one, is it?
It's the next one. Always the next step, Dalinar.”
Dalinar. One of my favorites.
Great quote
Rhythm of War LETS GOOOO
😍😍😍Dalinar Kholin is my favourite!
The way of kings reminds me so much of The Republic. I love both dearly.
Unbelievable, how much wisdom and practical advice can be fit into six and a half minutes.
@Christopher King Absolute garbage
@@ManuelCastro-ns5sd you're the kind of person who believes that you know everything, figured out life and don't need advice from anyone. I've met such people a LOT. If something was found to be profound by someone, why do you have to downplay them.
Coming to the point, the video is full of wisdom. I had selected a Hindu God, Hanuman as my ideal being. Now I realise that it is too much and I should start lower. There's no person in History who is as devotee and knowledgeable person as Hanuman.
@Robert Zechlin ..... THERE IS MORE WISDOM IN YOUR BODY , THEN YOUR GREATEST PHILOSOPHIES ((something like that ))
---- NIETZSCHE
Bless you Jordan. Thank you for everything you have contributed to my life and others.
How has he contributed to your life? I am really asking that question
@@jenesaisvraimentpasquoimet8473 dont know about him but for me he cured me of depression when I flunked my exams he got me through that and built my character such that I'm now a straight A student he almost feels like he speaks the words i can't put into being in his lectures and i love all of them all in all hes like the teacher you would've loved to have but never did then found on the internet
Couldn't say it better!
@@apimpnamedslickback5936 But where to start to listen to his lectures? Is there a base from where to start? Are there videos in a row etc etc... Thank you my guy I really need help
@@jenesaisvraimentpasquoimet8473 you can start by visiting his official page on TH-cam Jordan b. Peterson
I dropped out of college and felt as useful as a door wedge. After that I started watching your lectures and I’ve drastically changed my life and put pieces back together. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and beliefs. You have no Idea.
His 'No work is meaningless lecture was really inspiring
Hey man. I've been there. (Dropped out of uni and moved back in with my parents). Feel free to pm me if you need some advice or just someone to went too :)
Life gets better, trust me.
@¿Eres Cristiano? How come?
@¿Eres Cristiano? I would make sure you’re doing it for the right reasons. (not video games.) immediately put together a plan to start learning useful things so you can be of value to society. Don’t ever slouch your shoulders when you tell someone you dropped out either. You’ll be fine my friend.
I've been there as well. I dropped out and fall into a pit of loneliness and depression. My dad talked to me one day, he wasn't mad or angry or bothered (I was really afraid of that), he was calm and relaxed and for the first time in many years he was just chatting with me.
He gave me courage and motivation to do what I wanted, no matter what it was. I felt relieved and started doing some job postings, I ended up on a really nice job with great people and slowly improved myself until I moved out.
The thing is, I was completely capable of achieving those things on my own, but wasn't until I felt accepted and loved that I found the strenght to improve and progress with my life.
"When you are brought before synagogues, rulers and authorities, do not worry about how you will defend yourselves or what you will say, for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that time what you should say." (Luke 12:11-12)
"Bro, you don't need to write or rehearse your speech, just get up and shoot from the hip, it's gonna be totally fine!" ~ some childish fool who failed that class.
This is why you don't get your advice straight out of old books written by hedgerow philosophers and goat herders.
@@MiaogisTeas Luke was a physician. Is that better?
@@MiaogisTeas That scripture isn’t saying to just wing it. You would still prepare on trial, however it’s just saying do not be anxious and try to have faith. In many cases recorded in the Bible that is what has happened.
@@MiaogisTeas have you studied the historicity of the gospels in a serious way?
Yeah
Worked out well for Jesus didn’t it !
Welcome back to the land of the living, Professor
so many many people prayed for your recovery-----------God Bless you------
wait holy fuck i thought it was from 2015 or something
i thought the lapse he kinda suffered would stay at least a bit, but no the legend is back on track and fuck does it feels great
Is this not an old speech?
@@mikeyj1030 it's 26 october of this year
@@jujuteuxOfficial HE DID THIS TALK THIS WEEK!??!
The good thing about holding someone like Jesus as an example is that it's an unreachable goal, so there will never be that point where you reach your goal and no longer have to improve.
@IxEliteHD Jesus is both fully man and fully God. No human can live a life as virtuous as Jesus did. He was 100% obedient to the father since his first day alive. Every human who ever lived has fallen short of the glory of God every day they have been alive. The only way to be saved is by believing in Jesus, turning from your sins, and walking with Him.
Stories you tell yourself....begging to justify your superstitions
@@yj9032 I used to deny too, the truth is Jesus Christ
@@zpepp4364 I'm sorry for you.
@@yj9032 bruh my life is blessed
Welcome back and thank you for the talk ! Love from Serbia 🇷🇸
How's Serbia? It's about 50 degrees farenheit in New York.
@@fishsmell2570 Serbia is slowly transitioning into winter. We dont use farenheit here 😄
"A beacon to the world."
I have been thanking God that He has blessed you to come out the other side of your abyss. I will continue to pray for you and your family. Thank you very much for the truths you are sharing.
Perfect timing. I really needed to hear that. Thank you Dr. Peterson.
Me, too!
I have always found, the better you are in a crisis, the more people resent, detest, avoid, and hate you when the crisis is over. They see you a reminder of how they failed, how they fell short, how they were powerless, and as people don't like to be reminded of that, they want you as far away from them as possible.
They will also hate you for doing the right thing, in spite of the cost, all the more so, if it would have cost them less, or even nothing, to do the same, and they did not.
They will hate you if they discover the sad elements of their own past, that they use to excuse them of blame for their own bad behaviour, are much much less than they own, and you have not fallen into any of the same behaviours.
As the saying goes, "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished."
To hell with them.
Thank you for guiding me to discover my true passion and revealing to me where my strengths, skills, and weaknesses are and how to carve the best path for myself in life. We met in 2017 and I’ll never forget our conversation. God bless, Dr. Peterson. Welcome back to the Culture War, good friend.
Plato's Dialogues are some of the most fascinating pieces of literature and philosophy I have ever come across.
Hope you're well Mr Peterson. Thank you
Now I totally understand why we’re afraid of making a big change in our life. I also understand why we fail to handle big changes. It’s because we feel overwhelmed by the new judge. I’ve experienced it, and failed many times, but now I have it clear. In order to be successful in any new life challenge, we have to create a better self 👍🏻
And as JBP said: incremental steps
Nailed it*
Lol
Thanks JBP for this excellent short clip. Easily grasped by this old carpenter guy, with decent verbal ability and comprehension. Please keep them coming. I know you very bright folks like the longer discussions more, and I myself have the patience to listen to them and do, but many friends just can't sit through them.
These smaller digestible clips are very helpful.
Hope you are healing well and taking needed rest and breaks - You've done a lot for us all and deserve all the rest you need.
Back to work here for this old guy.
The embodiment of the Logos through an eternal dialogue with the Daimonic is the pathway to salvation.
Woah! This blew my mind. I can't explain it because I lack the ability to string it in words right now, but I felt when he said that your ideals become your judge and if your ideal is too big for you, it becomes a tyrant!
Never forget that Plato's dialogues are intentionally ironic. Plato believed that logos (essentially speech or reason in Greek) alone is not enough to impart understanding, and that something else is necessary for a person to be brought from ignorance to wisdom. This is why Plato wrote in dialogue form; merely giving someone the answer will not make them understand. One must be able to figure out the answer through their own effort and the dialogue form more closely resembles how we work things out in our head.
Furthermore, fictional stories allow for the use of literary devices that a typical treatise does not. Plato uses a variety of literary devices in his dialogues to try to prod the reader in the correct direction without outright giving them the answer. The most important of these is irony, particularly mimetic irony, in which the reader is meant to figure out the correct answer on their own by seeing where the characters went wrong in the dialogue by closely following their reasoning, line by line. If you pay close attention, you will notice that every single Platonic dialogue ends with the person being questioned (the interlocutor) reaching a logically inconsistent conclusion despite Socrates' best attempt to steer them in the right direction (although Socrates never admits this).
This is by design. Plato NEVER outright gives the overall message of the dialogue. It is a puzzle meant to be solved by the reader. This is why, in my opinion, philosophy has gone so wrong since Plato. Aristotle and everyone after him took the dialogues at face value and misinterpreted them. We still do this today.
I really appreciate this
Sounds like you went to Sarah Lawrence too LOL. Still contemplating the dialogues and riddles 30 years later.
@@CigEconomy Similar experience. Cheers to my fellow gadflies.
Impressive
Not trying to refute your overall analysis, but it is worth retaining the essential irony of Plato even writing semi-fictional, poetically influenced dialogues, given his stance with regards to mimetic art (fictional reproductions of material manifestations of immaterial ideas) like statues, paintings, poems and plays, which was highly critical, since he saw them as distracting to the path people should take in the real world, due to their dishonest nature. Through the voice of Socrates in 'the republic' he famously suggested (while possibly being a bit tounge in cheek) that in an ideal state the rulers should chase all of the poets out of the city. While he did specify that in his view works that tried to be as faithful as possible to the thing they were imitating had more dignity than those which heavily distorted or misrepresented reality, it remains to be understood that it was actually Aristotle in 'the poetics' who argued the case for the potential of fictional representations to elicit positive moral action from the person consuming it, as a direct riposte to his teacher's austere position on the matter. I would personally side with latter, as he doesn't throw out the window the notion of hierarchising fiction according to its faithfulness to real life while still enouncing the possibility for stories (particularly tragedies for Aristotle) to impart moral wisdom onto its consumer. Phenomenologically speaking, and here i join up with your conclusion, i think you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who couldn't recount an example of fiction moving them intensely in some positive way, and I don't mean purely on an emotional level.
Socrates was also a war hero who joined the infantry as an older guy and was witnessed being a badass. Hence the general Xenophon’s decision to write his accounts.
I love you, professor Peterson. I want to teach your lessons to my people.
Greetings from Bogota, Colombia.
Socrates was a very spiritually enlightened person. Love Eckhart Tolle's take on him as well. Thank you for being back Jordan. We missed you.
The amount of wisdom and insight jam packed into everyone of these videos is tremendous. Thank you, sir.
Jordan Peterson made me, a person who didn't like reading, read The Republic and a few of the Socratic dialogues just because they would be good for me. The effects of my engagement with literature now, has been invaluable.
I feel like i just learned more about this with 6 minutes of Dr. Peterson than the hour-long lecture my uni professor did.
Jordan ought to do a series on the dialogues of Plato
My prayers have been answered, god bless you JBP.
Would love to hear Peterson talk much more about philosophers and other great avatars.
Peterson is just amazing. Everytime i hear him, i am astonished by his great and deep knowledge of humans. I don't read a lot, but i think a lot myself, and on how to change oneself, he just says precisely what i ve been thinking. And generally, i can always find myself in what he is saying, it's an experience that most frequently occur when i read books than when i listen to people (although books are written by people), so i am pleased to listen to him.
The goal is to live your life in such a way that when death comes you have completely exhausted life and have nothing left to live for
I was there and then he was telling all this I sunk in the seat because the true hit me.
Thank you Dr. Peterson
Hopefully you will be back just get your health back.
Love you
So happy you are back Jordan! We are with you!
... Concerning ambition and Pursuits, the abolition of work, by Bob black, is a great thing to listen to. It is about 35 minutes long in audio.
An absolute masterpiece of a lecture, Dr. Peterson makes art of speech.
Refinement of self... To be better at loving, living, and truly helpful...
Thank you Jordan, God bless you, Keep well....
I am super glad you are BACK!
Wooh! I am truly amaze how Dr. Peterson explains things.
Recently, I have walked away from one of my best friends (we knew each other since 12), not because he is any kind of addict, he is just a normal family man like everyone. Couple years ago, my dad passed away and I told him about the news. He only expressed his condolence but never asked when & where was the funeral service even though it is roughly 20 mins journey from his home. He didn't even bother sending flower to the funeral.
When we were young, he was rather poor but my family always welcomes him at home and never look down at him, treated him to meals and movies. When he was studying at college, my dad tried to help him out by employing him one morning a week with very generous wages.
I was very puzzled of my friend's action but that's his decision. More recently, he even demanded me to go extra miles helping him out. That was the final straw.
I guess perhaps because my dad have such a special place in my heart, I have created a judge for my own action.
I really enjoyed reading at your comment... Thanks
Perhaps you failed to understand why he didn't send flowers or show "your expectations" of courtesy? Perhaps he expected an invitation to the funeral? Or someone he knew died as well, but he didn't want to bring it up at that moment? Etc. Etc. Etc. Culture, upbringing, language, miscommunication, etc.
If you do a good deed expecting things to be returned then you did no good deed AT ALL.
Did he demand of you or did he ask of you?
Something similar happened to me, sometimes people take you for granted, and you have to do right thing, which is respecting yourself and cutting them from your life
Thank you Jordan Peterson. I wish the best for you and your family.
I remember this lecture!
(بَلِ الْأِنْسَانُ عَلَى نَفْسِهِ بَصِيرَةٌ وَلَوْ أَلْقَى مَعَاذِيرَهُ)
This is so much more useful than those motivational videos that play ambient music and have this speaker yelling "GET UP AT 5AM AND RUN 5 MILES!"
Maybe some people are motivated by that, but some of us have to use our brains and convince ourselves that it's worth it.
PLEASE pace yourself, Doctor. You are loved by many and are providing great help. You deserve all the best. Treat yourself as you would someone you are responsible for.
this is exactly what I feel and do everyday since I can remember :D
great clip
Wow. That was an amazing speech! I have goosebumps.
4:49 That's why the Pharisees hated Jesus and had Him killed ... they kept all the rules and thought they were righteous and the standard of holiness. Then Jesus came along and was PERFECT which showed how flawed they and people's idea of holiness was. They kept the rules ... He kept the rules but also loved everybody. That's why true righteousness can only come by faith in Him ... not by earning God's love by following rules and being "good enough" but by believing God loves and accepts us even though we haven't and can't earn it and aren't "good enough." That's the Gospel.
God created everything. Even lucifers deception, our original sin and suffering from it. Perfection is...
@@rhumandlove393 I would argue god created possibility for evil (not his will?) to be chosen. Maybe to be godlike is to do the right thing always.
Jesus was tried in Roman court and was subjected to a Roman execution. I cannot believe the Pharisees had the final word in what was at the time a Roman province.
@@maslina10 There are two aspects to consider … the natural and the Divine. From the natural aspect the Pharisees arranged for Jesus to be arrested and crucified:
(John 19:6-7, 12, 15-16 NKJV)
V6-7 Therefore, when the chief priests and officers saw Him, they cried out, saying, “Crucify Him, crucify Him! ” Pilate said to them, “You take Him and crucify Him, for I find no fault in Him.” The Jews answered him, “We have a law, and according to our law He ought to die, because He made Himself the Son of God.”
V12 From then on Pilate sought to release Him, but the Jews cried out, saying, “If you let this Man go, you are not Caesar’s friend. Whoever makes himself a king speaks against Caesar.”
V15-16 But they cried out, “Away with Him, away with Him! Crucify Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?” The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar!” Then he delivered Him to them to be crucified. So they took Jesus and led Him away.
From the Divine aspect this was part of God’s plan:
(Acts 4:27-28 NKJV)
“For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose determined before to be done."
Sin
Thanks for everything mr.peterson
One of the Greatest Thinkers of our times. Peterson's lectures are SO CONCENTRATED with ideas
This man is a gift to us all. Man's here dropping millenia of knowledge of the human psyche boiled down onto 6 minutes.
Feeling a lot of crossover with John Vervaeke here. Great stuff. Thank you so much.
Nice to see the great JP back again!
Great monologue, great cinematography
We need you professor now, like never before. USA
This was immaculate
Thanks Dr. Peterson.
Everyone can speak with a daimon, spirit guide, even god if you are on the right
Path.
A lover of knowledge would not fear death ... they want to know what is next. A lover of the body would want to live for his bodily pleasures and material tokens, the latter would be afraid, whereas Socrates was genuine and practiced what he preached, with integrity. As Socrates stated "does purification not turn out to be what we mentioned in our argument some time ago, namely, to separate the soul as far as possible from the body and accustom it to gather itself and collect itself out of every part of the body and to dwell by itself as far as it can both now and in the future, freed, as it were, from the bonds of the body?" Plato's Five Dialogues, Phaedo 104c/d. He was sent by the Gods and was now being called back by those same Gods, he was at peace with it because be believed in what he spoke!!! Glad you are back!!!
SOMETIMES I SKIP JORDAN PETERSON BC IT'S MY JUDGE, BUT I LEARN BY LITTLE BITS. I HAVE WATCHED WHOLES 2HOUR VIDS BUT IT TAKES TIME TO ASSIMILATE .
ALWAYS THANK YOU MR PETERSON
Thank you!
Welcome back professor
Thank you sir. Amazing job
An amazing message!
Thanks Jordan!!!!
wow i have no words
Welcome back, doctor
Hey Mr. Peterson, I hope you find this comment and can respond. I was in a philosophy major and quit going to class after 3 months. The reason why I quit is because i realised if I read other people's work it would polute my thoughts on what I was working on. I wanted to be original with no outside source of knowledge. For the past 6 years I have contemplated reality and what is it. I think you would find my work interesting. Thank you for your time and have appreciated your work and videos for many years.
More relevant now than ever
Thank you for your service.
Please include a link to thefull lecture from which the clip has been taken.
You are one such beacon❤️
Aim impossibly high and fall just short of that and you'll rarely disappoint yourself.
Good wishes from Chechnya!
I continue to hope that JBP will be able to do a video series on Exodus because we for sure need it now, if we are to escape the Great Reset tyranny.
John 8:12
Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
Beautiful
It's kind of amazing that we came up with these ideas thousands of years ago and we are still debating their value and even authenticity. I find greek philosophy more pristine since it is before monotheism became the all encompassing truth and philosophers were really grappling with truth, knowledge, reality and nature from a starting point.
It is almost as if man put solely in nature finding his purpose was too complicated so we invented a creator with omniscience to pass on the burden of knowledge
Exactly.
Jordan gets a lot of criticism, I won't ascertain how valid it is, but I used his language structure to great extent on my literature exam. His wisdom helped me achieve the highest result in my school. That's powerful to me. ❤🙏
We all live on borrowed time. Listening to Jordan's advice on efficient methods of borrowing your time. WIll benefit those that may have decided to prematurely cash in on their existence.
"And of course Socrates was a very remarkable man, and we still hear about him today, and we know that he existed and all of those things."- Jordan Peterson
This story always gets me. I'm not sure why.
Grace, Peace, n LOVE to all the Elect in KING YESHUA. Those of You who are in that category; Born Again From ABOVE -pray for the New Birth of this man, his Eternal Salvation to GOD'S Glory.
5:45 "...withstand the tragedy of life." Working on it.
10-30-2020 - - - - - To me Peterson seems to be an architect of thought and an analyst of the structures made by thought. I've often wondered what he visualizes when he pauses to think about something. I would love to spend an hour "watching" what goes on in his head (imagination) when he's thinking about something.
You're the man, mr Peterson.
In the last few seconds he says that people can partially embody that judge he talked about earlier but to me there seems to be multiple judges that people ascribe to. The judges seem to be competence, knowledge, and values. There's probably more judges than that though. Or maybe the judges get mixed together really well and we just view it as one judge. Maybe that relates with the trinity or to omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence.
Funny, as part of an Western Art History class, I'm back here again trying to find every bit of videos where Dr. Peterson talks about Socrates and his students life and choices. The High Classical Greek Art was not simply called the "Foundation of Western Philosophy" for funsies.
Welcome back.
Aw man, I was thinking he was gonna finish telling the story of Sorates' trial.
Excellent.
나중에 한글자막도 있었으면... 한국에서 번역영상으로 잘보고있습니다~🇰🇷❤
He's back.
Starting right at 4:58, with the words "If your current ambition is crushing you" is there any software that can replace JBP with Redskull for that one minute that follows? Ideally with exactly same body language and hand motions and everything. Talking about the Phoenix like process of becoming a better human being that can be a beacon to others and really contribute something real to people around you. That would be a brilliant Redskull meme right there.
... To dispense of the useless you--absolutely right.
This fellow sees the light
Holy fuck Thank you Jesus for this man so truthful