Who butchered this old Breitling...? 😫
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ม.ค. 2025
- Today we have a lovely old Breitling Premier chronograph from the 1940's on the bench, but it has some serious problems with the chronograph function. And those problems seem to have been made by a previous "watch repairer"/butcherer... Viewer discretion is advised, there are some pretty shocking images in this video (for watch lovers, that is)!
Join Stian for a full service and repair of this wonderful watch with the fabulous Venus 175 inside it. As usual we will talk a bit about the history of the watch, and we will of course take a few detours, including a discussion of male perfume usage!
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Breitling ... a GOOD looking Breitling. So nice. Well done!
Thanks so much, Jan!
I can't think of a nicer way to spend a cold afternoon than learning about these wonderful old movements. Lovely stuff Stian.
Thanks so much, Dave :)
Thank you Sir 👍🏻👍🏻🤠🤠
Beautiful work, as always! I also dislike fussy dials, but this one's a classic smart watch (in the old sense). I'm always amazed how they managed this level of precision pre-CNC and CAD. Thanks for explaining the mechanism, it's still horrifyingly complex to me.
Thank you for keeping this art alive and so amazingly fun. Your patience and precision is so very inspiring. I enjoy your videos soooooo much. And as always your humor is fantastic when we all need a bit of happiness in these trying times.
As far as using "perfume or cologne?" For such a manly and strong man.... I prefer to call it "stink pretty." 😀
Haha, that might indeed be the most accurate wording! 😂
My father used to use the same phrase, "stink pretty!"
Haha Stink pretty, yeah why not, why use big words when a singularly unloquacious and dimunitive linguistic expression will satisfactorily accomplish the contemporary necessity.
Love your 'learn with a laugh' approach. Always a great show.
Thanks a lot, Michael, that's very nice to hear :)
So calming,relaxing and enjoyable. Could watch all day. Not to mention the sense of humour. Love it.
Wow, thank you! 😊
Really lovely to see the whole process, cheers
Thanks so much, Shawn :)
An amazing on a beautiful watch. As a beginner, I am still nervous every time I handle a non shock protected balance. You do it with such ease, I am still in awe how experienced people handle them. I am working on an AS970 and maneuvering that little thing is a real pain.
Fantastic Stian, thoroughly enjoyed revisiting this video
Wonderful display of precision watchmaking! I always enjoy all of your background information, too. Thank you!!
Thanks so much, Milan 😁
Thanks for a great vid. Glad you are keeping 'em coming.
Thanks so much, Mark! They will keep on coming 👍
I like the term keyless works🙂
😁👍
A job well done! I enjoyed your skilled work and your humour 👏🏻
Thank you
Thanks a lot, Jimmy :)
".....it now fits more snuggly than before."
Hope that helps.
❤Ty for your content.
Yay! Another Stian video! 🇸🇯🇺🇸🇸🇯🇺🇸 Beautiful watch and beautiful work!
Weeeeee!!! Thanks Donny 😁
Wow - I am following your channel and have linked 2+2 together taking the pieces of info you release when you talk.
I admire you, honestly, and appreciate the effort and drive you have to chase yet another career change and creating these videos.
Wish you find peace and satisfaction this time. All the best!
Thanks so much, that is very kind of you. If you have the opportunity to pursue your passion, you can count yourself very lucky, as I do :)
Beautiful watch and your work always astounds me. I always set some time aside to watch your channel. Keep up the great work.
Cheers!
That's very cool to hear, Angel 😊
Loved this, amazing camera work, editing and commentary. Hugely underrated channel.. 😎
Thanks so much! The channel has been growing very nicely the last few weeks, maybe it will become overrated 😉
@@VintageWatchServices 💪🤞
Very entertaining episode as you must have been in a very good mood. Your humor was in fine form!
Thanks! 😁
Great work Stian and of course your colleague Elma. That hammer looked rather like the one I use for roofing until you got your mits on it. Absolutely love the Premier dial!
Thanks Howard! It's a very nice looking watch, much nicer in person than on camera 😍
@@VintageWatchServices I just got my old Seagull out, knowing it's a Chinese version of the Venus movement but comparing it to the Breitling, the similarities are quite startling. Thanks again, Howard
Very satisfying watching your work
Thanks, that's very nice to hear :)
Marvellous work Stian!!
Thanks so much, Luke!
Fantastic work! Very well done. No easy job!
Thanks so much, Albert :)
Lovely job Stian, thanks for all that knowledge you give freely. Love the part when you put case and parts in cleaning solution in slow motion!, it's so soothing!. You have great skill level. Adrian 🍀
Thanks so much for that, Adrian :)
Stian, the Rodico seems a different color than normal. Are there different kinds you use? I've noticed sometimes even a clean new piece will leave a smudge on the crystal if I use it for a final dust removal.
I mostly use the so-called Rodico Premium, which is grey. It leaves a bit less residue than the standard green one. And yes, Rodico leaves residue regardless, which is why a lot of watch brands actually ban it in their manufactures.
@@VintageWatchServices thanks for that, Stian. 💪
Nice restoration! When you have tested the chronograph and increase the video speed ( that I was not aware of a fraction) I was just exclaiming NO! But all good :) when you mentioned the movie is fast forward :). So the balance wheel I associate it with the heart! And when is beating at the end of watch assembly - gives the beautiful feeling that is alive - amplified in the case of when, you buy an as told "dead watch" from a flee market and you wish to revive it.
Thanks! And yes, the balance is indeed pretty much like the old ticker 😉
Excellent Stian really enjoyed that, the watch was pretty nice too, lovely telephone minute counter sub dial, very nice, great video very detailed disassembly and rebuild, Thank you Stian. 👍
Thanks for watching it, Dave!
Beautiful watch. Great job 👌
very nice job great scot bro
Thanks so much, Nizam!
Wonderful video. Thanks again for sharing your videos. Big fan of Breitling. I've been wearing my Navitimer for the last few days after I changed the strap from the black leather version to the brown version. I'm really enjoying the way the brown strap and blue dial complement each other.
Thanks Steve! A brown strap brings out the blue very nicely indeed 👍
Congratulations for your knowledge and know-how!!
(A Swiss from Spain!)
It's a very beautiful watch and very lucky to have been well taken care of.
Thanks so much :)
Hi great videos as always. Can you give me the reference of the stick you use to clean the pivot and the tweezer to tighten the main spring? Thank you
Thanks so much! The stick I use is called Eveflex and you should be able to find it at most material houses. The pliers I bought from CousinsUK: www.cousinsuk.com/product/round-concave-jaw-pliers
enjoyed the commentary . good work 🕠🔨💪🙂
I was especially happy to watch this video of the Breitling Premiere! I recently purchased a pink gold cased version of this very watch! I loved seeing the Venus movement dis-assembled and then put back together! My watch had been forgotten in a family's vacation home dresser drawer for several decades. My watch buddy of many years called me when he found it. I am a sucker for pink gold and complicated movements! Your commentary is so much fun in the face of all those gears and levers being put right!! Maybe you could work on a 1940s Rolex Bubble Back, or a Gallet Regulator sometime!!
That's very cool to hear and your watch sounds like a real find! I do try to get my hands on some interesting watches, so we'll see what comes around :)
Yeah, I too like rose gold, more so than classic gold which I often find too dressy
You always brighten my day with your excellent, informative and humorous videos! Keep up the great sledge hammer work outs! Cheers!
Thanks so much, Kevin, that's truly nice to hear 😊
Great video
Thanks! 💪
Having a crappy, day your sense of humor made me laugh .Love the video and the restoration. I look at this and think how in the hell does he remember to put all those pieces back together? Thank you
Thanks a lot, Roger! After a while you understand the function of the parts and then it's much easier to put them back. And having the tech sheet and the video also helps 😉
@@VintageWatchServices These watch videos are very mesmerizing for me. I sure hope I can do this some day. Thanks for posting and you are welcome @
I was thinking the same, how do he remember, but I guess he film it or somthing.
@@Uriel-Septim. My dream is to learn clock making first and then move into pocket watches and then to watches. I really want to pick up old Rollex's and restore them that is my dream . I look at these videos and think how in the hell do they put them back together? I do Marine repair for a living and these movements boggle my mind
What a timeless beauty this watch is!
👍
Lol 14:13 , nice video sir and big thumbs up!
😂👍Thanks!
really like this early chrono Stian, nice work as usual on the service and the video/presentation!
Much appreciated, thanks!
You are a real pro - How you remember where all those parts go and the way they work …. very impressive 👍
Great vid. Breitling reintroduced the Premier in the 1990s.
Thanks! Yep, they did but the original one is still the nicest 😉
I agree the original looked the best
greatest watchmaker I’ve ever seen onto the web…great job, as usual
Thanks Ricky! I'd say there are much better watchmakers than me on the web though 😉
@@VintageWatchServices until now NU, but it's my poor opinion...pity you don't repair some of mine...eheheheh
your attention to detail is amazing would love you to service my watches
Thanks so much! I unfortunately do not take on servicing jobs, the watches I service on the channel are almost exclusively watches I have bought to resell after repair and service :)
@@VintageWatchServices thank you for your reply love watching your content keep them coming
Beautiful timepiece; nice restoration.
Thanks a lot, Ron! 👍
beautiful watch genious work✌️
Thanks a lot, Michael:)
@@VintageWatchServices teon i did send hou potos of my watch did you got it maestro?😊
The build of these watches is just astounding. It is quite easy to see as to why they are so expensive, amazing.
Indeed, the quality of vintage watches is just so much better than today's....
Enjoyed this a lot, many thanks.
Enjoyed this video non stop. Superb craftsmanship. Oh! the day when I would be doing such vintage watches. Will it remain a pipe dream? Only time will tell. In the meantime you are educating and encouraging those who want to excel in this profession. Three cheers Stian. May God bless you and your family.
Thanks so much, K and best wishes back 😊
Beautiful movement… great video as usual …. Keep it up!
Thanks a lot, Alberto 😊
Many thanks Stian, great job. Interesting that the hammer and spring allowed for the work you did on the hammer given that you removed material. I also assume that building up experience on what are original parts and what aren’t, I might not have spotted the incorrect spring. Keep the good work up! Ta ta.
Hello Boyd, I removed very little material and there is a bit of leeway in the mechanism. I didn't really inspect the beak of the hammer where it interacts with the column wheel in detail since it worked, but it might be that the former guy adjusted it to engage deeper.
I have 2 old breitling chronomats from the 1940-50's so this was fun for me to watch
Wow, very nice!
How to get the steam off a Armitron wrest watch, I broke the crown off the stem.
Hello Richard, you would have to open the case and take the stem out, I think. From what I know, these aren't expensive watches, so you might be better off just getting a new one?
Another great restoration Stian. And such a classy looking watch, unlike Breitling's modern "bling"
Thanks Martin! I certainly prefer the old ones also :)
chronographs are a trademark of Breitling, a very stylish watch. Good job 👍👍
Thanks Bojidar! Breitlings are indeed closely associated with chronographs, having made several innovations including of course the two pusher chronograph :)
Do all good watchmakers have to be funny and philosophically deep? This is the fifth watchmaker channel I am subscribing, and I don't even own a mechanical watch, I am not interested in wearing them. For some reason, I like listening to these people doing their work.
That is completely awesome to hear, Yusuf! I think there is something about working with these tiny mechanisms that kind of transports you into "the zone", where you relax and time flows :)
Hello Stian, very nice movement ! and some great tips there, I saw that you have a new twezeer!! And curved! thank you!
Hello Tiberiu, I've been using these tweezers for a few years now 😉
Beautiful work
Thank you so much 😀
Hi
Fantastic work.
It's a pleasure to see your videos, and the beautiful machines you work on.
I have a watch very similar to this one that is in perhaps even worse condition.
I would like to know if I can send you to evaluate if there are conditions for him to live again.
Hello David, thanks for your confidence in me! I don't really have the time to take on servicing jobs, I'm afraid, the watches I work on here on the channel are almost exclusively watches I have bought in order to resell after repair/service. What I'd suggest is that you google vintage watches in your area and then check the reviews. That should help you find a good watchmaker.
@@VintageWatchServices Thanks for the reply and keep up the good work.
There would be a lot more to say about these movements, like how to set the levers with the eccentric screws, which I still consider to be difficult, or the role of the Breguet Spiral etc. But nice job with good video, sometimes a little shortly cut. But one of the better channels and one with expertise!
Oh yes, there's lots more that could be said, but then the video would be hours long 😉
I think a lot of those parts for the complications could be used for a Rorschach test. Strange shapes. Strange and disturbing shapes. Although one did look like a ducky. 🤔 Really nice old chrono.
😂 Thanks!
i have the same watch from my grandfather i wish i could repare it at least i ve thé inside nice work!
It's a very nice watch!
Another great vid! Thnx alot I really like your style
Thanks so much, Robert :)
Loved seeing this , thank you!
Im curious to know if the material taken off of the hammer in the repair and polishing of it was enough to cause other parts to interact abnormally since everything is so precision fit...
Regardless, well done Stian.
Beaitifulll watch!
Congratulations fron Brasil!
Thanks so much:)
Just got your channel randomly recommended by TH-cam and I find it intriguing, I myself is a metal worker (in Denmark it is a 4 year education) and I build machines for the medical and textile industry, with tolerances on 2 tenths of a millimeter, but it seems to be hugh when it comes to watches
After a few of your videos, I came to think about my father and grandfather´s old watches and I had to go and look for them and 20 minuts later I am now sitting with them in front of me, a Atlantic Automatic 25 jewles incabloc and a Zenith Medaille d'or geneve 1896 ancre 15 rubis pocket watch and after winding them up they both tick ahead nicely (after years and years in a box in the closed) and opening the pocket watch back, it look in pristine condition, the out side look like silver (0,800) and could use a polish though.
Hello Rubim, it's very cool to hear you looked up father's and grandfather's watches after viewing that channel and that they are still running :) Mechanical watches are little machine wonders and it's fascinating how they start ticking after years in a box!
Great job!
Thanks!
Amazing work! Love the videos
Thanks so much, Walther :)
Stian, your fine fiddly work never ceases to amaze. To achieve such a balance between exquisite craftsmanship and feral strength is a true rarity. Stay well. 😉
Thanks so much, Bullnose :) 😁
Parabéns pelo serviço 👏
Muy obrigado, Edilson :)
A gorgeous video on a very beautiful watch. And as always, your jokes were much appreciated as was your comment on the Breitling-Bently collaboration: hideous products that become utterly insignificant when compared to this classy watch.
Thanks! And the Breitling for Bentley series really is hideous in my view...
@@VintageWatchServices I have always thought that all Scandinavian men have a huge hammers (think of Thor) with which to solve problems - and you always prove me right time and time again - thanks.
THEON, GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO...
Have subscribed and am now binge watching thank you 👍🏴
Thanks for the info AND the fact that no elevator music was used during this production. 👍 hope your kid also inherits your sense of humor, not your perfume. Cheers 🍻
I hope so too! 😂
Nice looking watch Stian. I enjoy your “micro machining” operations and explanations as part of the service. Is this the same movement the Chinese are using in their Air Force chronograph? Any thoughts on how the chronograph hammers got so distorted? Judging from the colors showing on the piece, some care had been taken in it’s heat treatment.
Look forward to next week. 🙂
Thanks Randy! It's not entirely the same, but the Seagull 1963 is indeed based on this movement. I hope to get my hands on the Chinese watch one day to compare them 👍
The ST19 movement used in the Seagull 1963 is based on the Venus 175 but has a few extra jewels in the train- it's actually a 19-jewel movement. It's actually a nicely made movement.
@@douro20 That Seagull is a nice looking little watch that has tempted me before but I sure about the quality and materials given the price, as I recall they aren’t much more expensive then a new Moon Swatch….. for a column wheel chronograph.
@@randyallen2771 I bought a Seagull a year or two ago and it's a little jewel. I opted for the sapphire dial crystal and display case back and I think I paid roughly $400 for it. don't think I'll ever sell it.
Basic servicing is satisfying. But troubleshooting (and deducing what the last chap screwed up) is fascinating.
It makes a difference for sure, and it's more fun also 😁
@@VintageWatchServices Yes, it is more fun...after 30+ years of learning one's craft to such an extent one can properly identify the challenges and know the solutions.
Its interesting to watch you work on these things. Im not sure why? lol I watched you put a pin in a new mainspring in another video. And it was filmed under magnification. When shown at normal,,it was so small I couldnt believe it!!!
Thanks so much! These things can get pretty small indeed! 💪
Beautiful movement and great save on the hammer. Did the reshaping and polishing change the overall length and necessitate the adjustments of the cam?
Thanks Peter and I see you know your chronographs :) I was prepared to adjust the beak of the hammer a little bit but it wasn't necessary. I did have to tighten up the hammer post a bit, but didn't show that in the video. It's simply screwed into the mainplate, so it's not a big difficulty but you don't want to make marks on it.
I have an old Sears stopwatch- actually a rebadged Heuer Trackmaster- which has a half-minute dial and it turns out that just a tiny bit past the 15 second mark is where it is the hardest for it to reset.
🤔 Interesting. There might be some irregularities on the surface of one of the heart shaped cams.
THANKS for this video !!!
Thanks for watching it, Greg!
RELOJES QUE MARCAN UNA BELLA EPOCA , EXELENTE SERVICIO PARA DAR LA HR EXACTA !!!!! .
Muchas gracias, Alfonso !
Very nice work! Much more professional and precise than some other TH-camrs out there, methinks.
"Stian's Hammer" is making a regular appearance now, which I appreciate. Must be the Viking heritage - there's no problem that can't be solved with a war hammer.
The Seagull 1963 comes to mind at once, of course, and I'd love to hear your opinion (one of these days, as you promised to Randy). Also, have you noticed the similarity between the dials (i.e. this Breitling and the Seagull 1963)? The champagne coloured watch face, the red seconds hand, the font of the numerals, the lack of lume...
And I will not chide you for not using any Ziffernblattwiederherstellungsflüssigkeit. (Even if the dial could have done with a tiny bit of cleaning up, don't you think?)
I enjoyed the video, as always!
Thanks Gordon! It might very well be that the Seagull borrowed some design ideas from this one as well. There isn't actually much that can be done with this dial, as all of the dirt is embedded in the varnish, meaning that if you rub it, the varnish will be gone and the dial will look horribly. Refinishing it goes against my beliefs when the dial is still so nice with the original golden numerals fully intact. And it looks very nice in person :)
Lovely video, but you were skimpy on the dad jokes. More politely requested. 😂
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*If only Breitling produced something today similar to this beauty, it would sell like fresh, warm bread. GREAT VIDEO, AS ALWAYS.* 🥖
Thanks so much, Joe! Their re-released Premier looks nice I think but the original one still looks nicer 😉
Just to tease you: I have a watchmaker friend that is so fanatic that he replaces the metal bearings (like here on the center wheel) by stone bearings! Even Rolex had metal bearings that wore out in the 50s and my friend does replace them, making better than original Rolex's. Crazy guy!
Hello Juri, if properly done, that is indeed an improvement of the watch, but it also makes it non-original, and that's why I don't do that unless the bridge is so worn it's the only option. If the bridges are marked 17 jewels and there are 19 in it, that would feel off to me as a purist.
Another great video masterclass from a master watchmaker.
Thanks so much, Clive 😊
Amazing work, not to mention the hilarious sense of humour. Hello from Australia, I I have a Breitling 747960/1188 id like you to service, is that possible?
Hello, thanks for watching! I'm extremely overloaded and don't really have time to take on any servicing jobs at the moment, but if you send me some photos of the watch to stian@vintagewatchservices.eu I'll have a look and can give you a definite answer
Those pusher springs are brilliantly simple
A joy to watch, did you get a chance to look at the Seagull version of the 175 yet, i would be very interested in your critique of that movement
Thanks George! I haven't yet gotten hold of a Seagull but I'll try to do so in not too long 👍
Can you tell more about a landeron movement being a breitling?
Hello, thanks for watching! I'm not sure I fully understand your question? Breitling did use Landeron movements in some watches.
I noticed that you needed to adjust the regulator almost fully to the slow end. Is there anything you learn about the movement from that? I'm curious about whether it is a sign of too light a balance or perhaps too strong a hairspring?
That question shows a very deep knowledge, Mike! Ideally you would indeed like the regulator to be in a neutral position (in the middle), but for these old movements the regulator is in one piece, meaning it will basically never be in the neutral position. If you really wanted to center it, you would need to adjust the length of the hairspring or re-stud it, and that is extremely delicate work that you really want to avoid...
@@VintageWatchServices Thank you for the reply, and the kind words. I'm a TH-cam educated amateur, so I have people such as yourself to thank. I haven't yet attempted to re-stud a hairspring, but I do try to use curved brass tweezers for everything now !
awesome lika always 😀 and yet somting new to learn with ur vids 😄 best in the game here on youtube 👌🙃🎈
Thanks so much, that's very kind of you 😊
Très belle vidéo pour une très belle montre.
Merci beaucoup, Alain !
My breitling crosswind utc special is in desperate need of a service, i inherited the watch from my father about 18 years ago, and it is in pretty rough condition. I got a new crystal for it, and some other parts. I’ve been servicing a few watches before, but nothing ”expensive”, do you have any advice for me? Is there something i should pay more attention to? You can answer me in swedish if you like.
I really like your channel, it gives me peace when i watch you give these watches a new life.
Tjenare Pierre, takk for at du følger kanalen min! Jeg antar at uret ditt har Breitlings B44, som er et modulært urverk basert på ETA 2894. Du kan se på siden av uret: hvis pusherne ikke er i en rett linje er det en modul.
B44 er et urverk du ikke bør forsøke å service, du trenger spesielle verktøy for det. Det er et urverk jeg ikke vil jobbe med selv 😉
Ah great stuff! the beat error improved once it was serviced from at the start, did you adjust it when you cleaned the balance jewel or did just the service provide a better result? looking forward to the next one!
Thanks Carl! No, I didn't adjust the beat error, it improved after the service :)
Thanks for another great video, Stian! I asked once before but I can't find your reply .... which grit Eveflex pin polisher do you use to clean pivots? Thanks again!!
Thanks Woody! I use the finest one, but the second finest should also be fine
@@VintageWatchServices Thank you very much!!
Amazingly intricate work. That little double ended spring scares me! Much easier to skin a cat.
I think the cat might disagree with you and prove its point quite decisively.
One more excellent job !!! congratulation my friend !!! ;-)
Thanks so much, Hubert 😊