That was a game where no one knew what was going on, whereas season 40 was all experienced players just WAITING for someone to do something pushy or sneaky like the buddy system.
Jake kass played the game. She was hated by the jury, and while I think it would have been close, I do think that kass could have potentially swayed enough people to beat woo. I know this doesn’t mean much, but based on what I saw on tv and if I were on that jury I’d probably give it to kass. Just my opinion though.
@@geeknotgamer1985 Oh please. Idoling out the queen is a big move, but not her best move in her entire Survivor career. Yes she eliminated the queen with her vote alone, but many people have been idoled out. She's made much bigger moves in the past.
I think Nick’s alliance’s move to split the minority move was one of if not the greatest in history. It was well executed and the only time in survivor history where a minority alliance split the votes and won
Unfortunately there's no difference between him and a pillow this season. He must be related to Morgan from Cagayan.. One of the most boring players of this season.
Umar Patel I still think it was Davie's move and not Nick's... I mean... I think it was Davie's idea + without Davie's idol it wouldn't be even possible to make that move...
Filip Offenbartl davie had the idol but they said it was nicks move and nick was the mastermind behind the minority split and Davie was gonna use another advantage but nick had the idea of conserving the advantages
@@filipoffenbartl8214 Nick had a relationship with Alec who provided the plan to him, that made possible to Nick to tell Davie to play the idol on Christian and save numbers, and Nick was the mastermind of the split the minority vote, you can see in the secret scenes of David vs Goliath.
The amount of almost unrecognized shade in this video is great. “fan favorite game changer sierra dawn thomas” “we love to see people winning on their third shot”
Michele is the only person I’ve ever seen who can be on the outside of the majority and survive because of how socially aware she is. Also providing clutch immunity idols and wins all while also taking power players out. Severely underrated
I don't think so her gameplay just was not good..nobody thought she will win thats why she won..same concept for Natalie in russell's season and even amber..they all won because the jury did not want to reward the other players.
@@shramanap7011 that works for amber over rob and natalie over russell but lot of people liked aubry and she actually played a good game. Michele got the votes because her social game was better and she still played a solid game
@@juri_tsom totally! I feel like he has the 'winners edit' currently. I think either him or Michelle are going to win because she also has a good edit going for her.
Sandra: Anybody but me Rob: Buddy system Jeremy: Meat shield Sophie: Remain majority Tony: Bag of tricks Michele: Abandon sinking ship Natalie: Right time revenge Ben: Secrets remain a secret Tyson: Single system Sarah: Advantage play
Yul's real best move. Taking out the ONE player who realized how to beat his super idol. The man the myth the legend, Cowboy with plan Voodoo. Cowboy told Yul about this strategy to beat the super idol and Yul then targeted him before he could spread this idea to others.
The only thing that I kind of bothered with new school players and new fans of the show is how easily they discredit and mock old school players who are literally iconic players who are essential and made the show as it is today. I don't know about you but I am a fan since 2000 I was there during the hype of all stars!
That wasn't Amber's defining move. Her defining move was securing swing-vote Shii-Ann by befriending her when the rest of Rob's alliance alienated her.
I think the reason Sandra's game flies under the radar is because of how good she is. she finds the weak point of the people running the show, then uses it to get them to make a move that sends them home, but they don't even realize because they think it was their own fault when really Sandra moved all the chess pieces to make it happen. she's better than people give her credit for
Wow Tony totally won with the Meat Shield strategy in Winners at War, I didn’t realize it was pioneered by Jeremy. So effective being the second biggest threat when everyone is constantly thinking about who they don’t want to sit next to at the end
Brett Larkin him and don were both great and had similar play styles which is why they both deserved the win. i’m more of a Wendell guy tho but love them both
wendell got screwed in the edit this season, i dont think he was as bad as they portrayed him. mostly because they made it seem like there was a lot of bad blood and awkwardness between michelle and him, but they were pretty much working together, and wendell even gave one of his fire tokens to michelle. we definitely didnt get the full story of what went down with wendell.
@@soggyramen6031 I don’t think Cirie would of made final 3 tbh… unless Tai or Aubrey voted each other out. So Tai most likely wins which is a good alternative
Danni was brilliant. She was down in numbers at the merge, and instead of trying to target the top dogs (Rafe and Steph) while they were picking her allies off one by one, she cozied up to them and it saved her. Absolutely brilliant.
I feel as though Danni doesn't get enough credit as the first meta-gamer in Survivor, and i'm genuinely shocked it's not a strategy we hear even in post game interviews as something being used. Danni had almost a purple edit in Guatemala because in her words, she would ramble in confessions, making them unusable, and causing production to ask her more questions. She did this because she realized that all the questions to prompt confessionals were related to the strategic games being played, so she used production to get more information and give none.
Natalie Anderson is one of my favorite winners of all time. Her careful timing for the perfect strike could not have gone better! And the fact that she orchestrated so many final vote outs, and still got the most votes, iconic!!
I disagree. Rob made the pitch which helped, but Amber had to do the leg work and convince KATHY to keep her. Kathy was Lex's right hand, and she held a lot of influence in that pairing. If Amber did not make a good enough argument for herself, it is likely she would've been knocked out at F10 and who knows Lex could've taken over the game after the merge. But Amber's underrated strong social game coupled with some good charm convinced her enemies to keep her. That is a subtle but effective part of her gameplay. She is a person who excelled at the UTR strategy and it worked in those early seasons of survivor. Years after this, Natalie in s18 would employ a similar strategy and win over the overrated Russell Hantz.
Honestly Not making a move might be better than making a move, and that in itself is a strategy, Shii Ann recognized early on that Amber was playing under the radar and was gonna win, Sandra has a loud personality but her game is subtle, in HvV she forms good relationships with the people who'll form the jury and ends up winning the season over betrayal heavy and hard players Parvati and Russell, Parvati even tried to convince Russell to vote out Sandra but he's a really bad social player and didn't do the reading
@@Awesomenesswithacherryontop Yes, I agree that Sandra deserved to win HvV, but this is about Amber. I'm not saying she had no social game. I'm saying that it wasn't her social game that saved her. It was Lex holding up his end of the deal that saved her.
@@gengarcrobat1576 Gengar Crobat I mean, yeah, but having an alliance in itself can be strategy, if you watched Marquesas, Rob played just as hard, in All Stars, Amber had a good reading on how she would do if she aligned with Rob, and basically just win from there, because she knew Rob would protect her and he's a really good manipulator and a mafioso player, and that she would win over him because she pissed less people off than the one more exposed by being the face of the strategy, while she was the one workin' behind the scenes, and it helped her case that Lex didn't listen to Jerri who basically outlined his downfall.
An underrated part of Rob's win on Redemption Island was spelled out be Natalie at the reunion - they didn't show too much of it, but she credited him with forming a really strong, personal connection with pretty much everybody on the island. Even when it's smart to vote somebody out, it's difficult to do it on a personal level when you see that person as a good friend. He played an incredible social game.
Sophie’s biggest move: crying at the final 5 tribal. Hear me out, the savaii only saw that upolu was heartless(and more) and when they saw Sophie cry, it made her more human than the others. That’s what her biggest move is. Honorable mention: her convincing coach to get out Brandon
Something that makes Nick's win even more impressive is the fact that, if not for a player getting medically evacuated, he would have been the 1st boot
I would say Sophie’s best move was her FTC performance. I feel like it doesn’t matter what game she plays, if she makes it to the end, she will convince you she played the best game ever.
Wow, you just brought back a memory i didnt know I had. For context my mom passed away back in 2015, so one of the last seasons of survivor we watched together was Tony's season. Talking llama became a really big joke around my house, we even had this chalkboard in our kitchen that said 'Talking Llama Cafe'. Thanks for reminding me about that..
I can't believe your videos don't have more views, they're fantastic! Keep up the good work, I am sure that the rest of the survivor community will catch up eventually :)
Thank you, that's so kind of you to say! I've only just started out about a month ago, and comments like this are super encouraging. Glad you've been enjoying them!
Well, I mean, for Sophie, why would you make a move when you were on a very direct road to winning? There was no need, she was gonna win no matter what, she won immunity when she needed to, she let people around her make moves that'll piss the jury off, and WaW is proving she can play hard, even if she doesn't win, she's gonna be known for playing one of the best games among the winners
Really? I think she is playing a good game to get to F7, if she survives, but a bad game to get to final tribal and win the 2 million. If this was just the pre-merge, I would agree that she played well. But since the merge, she needs to start taking bigger risks and I don't see that in her style of play. I think she will be knocked out very soon actually, as she is a hyena who will be targeted by the lions soon enough. I just don't see how she is playing one of the best games amongst the winners. I think Tony is playing the best of any of them and no one else is close. Sarah is doing well too, but she made a big mistake at the F11 reward.
@vaporterra Please don't make assumptions about others based on their dislike of someone winning. I couldn't care less about Coach. That season was just a mess and not many there really did anything in order to deserve winning.
I feel like Michele's move that won her the game was taking our Neil with the remove a jury member advantage -- If Neil is there, Aubry gets his vote so it's 5-3, but I'm positive his praise of her game could sway at least one more person, resulting in a tie, and if that was the case Tai votes for Aubry to win as the finalist not in the tie
Had Neal been in the jury at FTC, he would talkef his way to getring the jury to vote fir Aubry to win, and Michele knows it.. it showed she did the right move when Neal dissed her, on his way to being the virst jury voted out.
@@shofranz-moss4002 For sure. He would have at least swayed it to a tie, which Tai would have broken, and obviously in favor of Aubry. But more than likely he could have gotten 2, enough to give Aubry the win outright.
I don't know the way he was talking when he left could have swayed people away from voting for Aubry because he came off a bit aggressive. I mean there's no way he would sway my vote coming at Michelle like that. Unless he made good arguments, but usually it comes across really annoying advocating for someone.
I just wanted to comment and say that your work on these videos is very good and very much appreciated! I've been looking for survivor analysis videos of any sort for months and this is easily one of the best three channels out there (rivalling Peridiam and Once Upon An Island). I don't understand how you don't have more views and subscribers because you definitely deserve more! I hope you start to rack up more soon as your work is very good and I hope you get more views/subscribers soon.
Winners at War Signature Moves For (mostly) Every Player thus far ========================================================= - Natalie: Continuously acquiring fire tokens on the island that led her to be the single richest player on Edge at the time - Amber: Uh... I don't know... maybe giving her fire token to Rob (her husband) - Danni: I don't know... - Ethan: His heroic moment of pushing through the log challenge until the completion - Tyson: Peanut Butter... and getting himself back into the game then playing low the first eviction of merge - Rob: Being able to make a tribe of all winners remain silent for an entire day leading up to tribal (tho that was also his downfall). Also making a full tribe of winners dump out their bags at tribal in front of everyone in attempt to find who has the idol. - Parvarti: Selling a 50/50 idol to Michelle for 4 fire tokens (which Michelle should've never taken) - Sandra: She didn't do much other than successfully sit out of every single competition in the game (or at least those shown on the show) - Yul: Organizing the idea of the poker alliance that ultimately got Amber and Tyson voted out. - Wendel: Playing into the idea that Michele and Wendel had a toxic relationship outside the game, while secretly working together the entire time. A brilliant coverup of an alliance. - Adam: Attempting to grab an idol that was supposedly located in Tribal in front of everyone... wish it was real... ========================================================= - Ben: Calling adam out before and during tribal to be seen as a distraction while everyone around them was deciding on who would ultimately be voted out. - Denise: ... you know what she did ... a truly epic vote out of the Queen "sandra" herself with her one and only vote. - Jeremy: Orchestrating the blindside of Rob and Adam by voting out Ethan instead. - Kim: Getting the target off of her back and hiding back into the background after clearly being on the outs for the first few days in the game. - Michele: (same as Jeremy) - Nick: honestly no idea... - Sarah: Playing both sides while alining closely both Sophie and Tony. Laying low even tho she had one of the biggest target during interviews before playing. - Sophie: Essentially being the one person calling all the shots without anyone realizing it in the process. - Tony: Laying low and keeping a target off his back even with being one of the most infamous winners in survivor history.
I though Nick had a really good, possibly signature, move this week: knowing he was the target, he whispered to Tyson that Sophie was gunning for him (no clue if this was even true), eventually leading to all the chaos and different targets. He stirred the pot just enough to get Adam to overplay and saved himself.
One of Tonys greatest moves was turning his alliance against AJ by giving him true infos without evidence which made AJ looked like a paranoid madman. That was some sick mob boss move right there.
Ethan's biggest and best move is clearly throwing the challenge for Boran to gain the upper hand on both tribes after the first swap of all time that nobody knew how to deal with! It was historic and set the end game!
I like the way you described things. It almost justifies those "winners" who probably should not have won based on the editing footage us viewers saw. People like Sophie, Natalie, Sarah(It's Lacina now). I can justify Sandra's first win at Pearl Islands because Lil was a trainwreck and everyone else cannibalized eachother, but the second time probably should have been Parvati. I would like to see someone make a video that dissects each controversial season's winner by backtracking to what possibilites could have happened to avoid it. Though half were just bitter juries.
I appreciate this video because it shows that every winner did something right to get to the end and win the game. Regardless of what happened or what will happen in Winners at War, despite some pathetic attempts in the comments, no one can take that away from them.
@@jackpeter7924 she 100% did, Coach should've won that season. There are a lot of coasters who are back for winners at war and Sophie is one of them. Her gameplay this time around is a lot better though I'll give her that! Least shes actually playing.
@@WadeGaffney she did exactly what she needed to do to win South Pacific. Why rock the boat when there is nothing to gain from it? And her 'Ozzy's Pleasure Dome' argument was masterful
Awww poor Sophie, Lol. And that is the reason why she went into Season 40 with a massive chip on her shoulder and was looking to pull off some big moves.
My queen Sophie didn’t need a flashy move to win, homegirl came to get a check and left with one. Now that she’s got her check she’s coming to take names
Sophie is playing a good UTR game right now, but I don't think she can win. She is playing too passive and really not making any major moves. Yes I know she influenced the Wendell vote out and she has an idol, but I just get the feeling watching her that she is not driving the narrative. Plus the Wendell move only worked because the power alliance run by Tony also wanted him out, she is not playing with any real power in the tribe. It does feel to me like she is playing somewhat similar to Sandra's "anyone but me" style, but the problem is that I don't see a person who is her core alliance member where she can both feel safe AND in control of their pairing (think JT/ Stephen or Tony/Woo). Who is her #2?. Sometimes the right thing to do is to not make any big moves, but often it is not how you can win modern day survivor. I get the feeling that Sophie will play her idol at F10, and then be voted out in one of the next two tribals. If she came into the game wanting to change her reputation as a quiet/passive player, I'm sorry to say but I think she hasn't done much in my eyes to deserve the 2 mil at this point. She is one of two female hyenas in the game right now, and the way the edit is going, I think she will be eaten by the lions of the tribe soon enough.
@@multiplemike5021 Everything you said is true BUT I think at this time it is best to not make a big play. There are too many people still in the game. There are no alliances set still and I think everyone is watching out for someone trying to make that big move. Remember these are all winners who know the signs of a big move. All of them know if they make a big move then they are most likely on the chopping block next tribal council. The only previous winning strategy I can really think of working in this game is meat shields... and of course being in the background. Sandra was KNOWN for her "as long as it's not me" strategy, Sophie isn't. I really believe at this stage of the game it's not the right time for a big move. Maybe why no one is playing their advantages.
@@cjtrules1 That just changed with episode 10. Jeremy effectively ended his chances of winning tonight, and Kim is also in serious trouble. I think she goes out next, and then Sophie is gone right after her. I can't wait for next week. Tony has played a masterful game this season, and watch as he reminds everyone why they should've gotten rid of him in the pre-merge. Next week will be his episode to shine, I can feel it.
I love how Tony Vlachos used Jeremy's meat shield strategy to win Winners at War. He also instituted his Spy Nest and social game of awesome likability to become, in my opinion, the best Survivor player of all time: the B-SPOAT.
Tony Vlachos is undeniably the Survivor G O A T right now. Could change if we get to Season 50 or later and see other games in the future but now this is the best game of all time complete from day 1 to day 39...
I feel like the whole survivor all stars situation would’ve been solved very easily. If at the challenge at the tribe swap, Robs tribe threw the challenge, they could’ve voted off the one in the minority so they’d still go into the merge with numbers and the jury wouldn’t despise rob. Then rob would probably win because the elimination order would probably be the same
Adam 18:44 - Convincing an enemy (Will) to flip to get the numbers back at Final 9 and then voting out that same person at the next tribal Amber 3:34 - Escaping being voted out after being handed the most unfavorable tripe swap possible Ben 20:49 - Idol play at Final 7 when everyone voted for him Boston Rob 9:20 - Buddy System Danni 4:19 - Socially maneuvered into an alliance with power players, including Rafe and then eliminating him at final 3 Denise 12:53 - Voting out the girls to position herself as the #1 ally of both Russell and Malcolm Ethan 1:07 - Aligning with Lex and Big Tom Jeremy 16:44 Meat shield strategy Kim 11:32 - Votes Jay out after Jay confides in her that Troyzan is plotting against her and flushes out Troyzan's idol Michelle 17:50 - Abandoning a sinking ship and joining the majority alliance by voting out Julia Natalie 16:07 Waiting to strike and vote out John until Final 6. Eliminating the other alliance first. Nick 22:34 Collaborating with his alliance to use idol on Christian and split the minority vote at Final 12 Parvati 6:42 - Blindsiding Ozzy Sandra 2:22 - Rallying together Darrah and Lil to blindside Burton at final 5 Sandra (HvV) 8:10 Feeding a false rumor to a paranoid Russel that Coach wants him out. This takes the target off of her and Courtney. Sarah 19:48 - Voting Sierra out and getting Sierra to will the legacy advantage to her Sophie 10:05 - Not making a move and convincing her alliance to not be gamebots ("making unnecessary moves for the sake of being flashy") Tony 14:39 - Convincing Woo to take him to the Final 2 Tyson 13:56 - Joining the singles and getting the pairs voted out Wendell 21:37 - Forming friendship with Laurel and Dominick Yul 5:41 - Getting Penner to jump ship and join his alliance at Final 9 when the Aitu 4 were outnumbered
Why doesn't Kim get any respect from other players? Season 24 was the 3rd most dominant season ever (behind Rob's 22 and Tony's 28) and yet no one was scared of her on 40.
I liked Parvati in Heros vs Villains more than I did in Micronesia. Not only does she pull off the double idol move but she was a challenge beast and won a bunch of immunity challenges. In Heros vs Villains she was a legit physical threat. She did win one immunity challenge in Micronesia but I felt like she wasn't quite the challenge beast in that season. Also she was more cautious as she actually passed on an immunity idol in that season.
Everyone said Sandra won Pearl Islands, because she sticked to a strong player. But she had ideas, and then, when there was space, she totally ruled the game. At first, she took Dara to spy on Burton and John, she got Burton blindsided by she blindsided all of them one by one then and as last, she still seemed like a weak player, so Lil took her to final 2. Genius!
It looked like Ben was given idols,he was a controversial winner for a reason,Even past players commented on his winning. Survivor did something unprecedented with him I believe-he found an idol Off camera 🙄😕😕 Please
Rob's note to self: buddy system great for newbies, not so great for proven winners.
That was a game where no one knew what was going on, whereas season 40 was all experienced players just WAITING for someone to do something pushy or sneaky like the buddy system.
doakers in an interview he said he basically knew he was going and it was a last ditch effort.
If any winners would fall for that it would be Ben and Adam
@@landonweaver1040 even though Adam was the one who coined it "The Buddy System on Steroids"
@@youkaliciousx299 Sarah did actually
Sophie’s signature move was her final tribal council speech where she called Coach a little girl.
Lol😂😂😂
To this day i still think about the fact that Woo was seconds away from winning.
In the challenge he was seconds away from losing to Kass, which ironically means he wins the season because Kass takes him to the end
After Woo’s FTC performance, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Kass beat him.
Ethan Snider the jury literally said at the reunion that they would have voted woo if he was against kaos kass
Jake You really can’t base it off that tbh. They could be just saying that and you wouldn’t know because they haven’t been to FTC.
Jake kass played the game. She was hated by the jury, and while I think it would have been close, I do think that kass could have potentially swayed enough people to beat woo. I know this doesn’t mean much, but based on what I saw on tv and if I were on that jury I’d probably give it to kass. Just my opinion though.
Tony best play: speaks llama. 🤣
Hahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Adams idol play is def the best move ever on winners at war 😂💀
Just imagine if it worked though!
@@IdoledOut that would have been the best play in survivor history no doubt
I think they'll do that in at least one later season now.
Between that or Denise taking down Sandra
@@geeknotgamer1985 Oh please. Idoling out the queen is a big move, but not her best move in her entire Survivor career. Yes she eliminated the queen with her vote alone, but many people have been idoled out. She's made much bigger moves in the past.
I think Nick’s alliance’s move to split the minority move was one of if not the greatest in history. It was well executed and the only time in survivor history where a minority alliance split the votes and won
Unfortunately there's no difference between him and a pillow this season. He must be related to Morgan from Cagayan.. One of the most boring players of this season.
kaitsu he was better last episode and I believe he’ll turn up at this point like he did his first season
Umar Patel I still think it was Davie's move and not Nick's... I mean... I think it was Davie's idea + without Davie's idol it wouldn't be even possible to make that move...
Filip Offenbartl davie had the idol but they said it was nicks move and nick was the mastermind behind the minority split and Davie was gonna use another advantage but nick had the idea of conserving the advantages
@@filipoffenbartl8214 Nick had a relationship with Alec who provided the plan to him, that made possible to Nick to tell Davie to play the idol on Christian and save numbers, and Nick was the mastermind of the split the minority vote, you can see in the secret scenes of David vs Goliath.
I loved Tony’s “bag of tricks” he brought with him to every tribal
Yes
The amount of almost unrecognized shade in this video is great. “fan favorite game changer sierra dawn thomas” “we love to see people winning on their third shot”
ikr lol she's a joke
Michele is the only person I’ve ever seen who can be on the outside of the majority and survive because of how socially aware she is. Also providing clutch immunity idols and wins all while also taking power players out. Severely underrated
I don't think so her gameplay just was not good..nobody thought she will win thats why she won..same concept for Natalie in russell's season and even amber..they all won because the jury did not want to reward the other players.
@@shramanap7011 that works for amber over rob and natalie over russell but lot of people liked aubry and she actually played a good game. Michele got the votes because her social game was better and she still played a solid game
Did vecepia and/or danni do that too?
She sucked hard ck and won literally 0 votes in the finale, ngl.
Kim's move against Jay is RUTHLESS and one of my favorite of all time
Rob Romeo it’s painful. Like it truly is so cut throat but genius
Sophie’s move was the “Ozzy’s pleasure dome” argument that forced Brandon to Redemption instead of her.
Tony's gameplay is INSANE and i love it. we haven't gotten to see much of it this season though
you spoke too soon
Hailey Kloppenberg it’s definitely starting up lol episode 11 was totally ‘the episode of Tony’
@@KaLL_Sally 12,13 too
@@juri_tsom totally! I feel like he has the 'winners edit' currently. I think either him or Michelle are going to win because she also has a good edit going for her.
Have you, now?
Sandra: Anybody but me
Rob: Buddy system
Jeremy: Meat shield
Sophie: Remain majority
Tony: Bag of tricks
Michele: Abandon sinking ship
Natalie: Right time revenge
Ben: Secrets remain a secret
Tyson: Single system
Sarah: Advantage play
Ben's should be Ben Bomb
Bob: Physics and Arts & Crafts.
Denise: Versatility
@@NickWuebker more like Denise: Whoever Talks To Me First
Tina: I’m not Keith
I really just want the unedited hours of footage of Tony convincing Woo to take him the the end.
Yul's real best move. Taking out the ONE player who realized how to beat his super idol. The man the myth the legend, Cowboy with plan Voodoo. Cowboy told Yul about this strategy to beat the super idol and Yul then targeted him before he could spread this idea to others.
Such a smart early move
The only thing that I kind of bothered with new school players and new fans of the show is how easily they discredit and mock old school players who are literally iconic players who are essential and made the show as it is today. I don't know about you but I am a fan since 2000 I was there during the hype of all stars!
“Please don’t flame out early” he says to Tony, man he must’ve loved winners at war
That wasn't Amber's defining move. Her defining move was securing swing-vote Shii-Ann by befriending her when the rest of Rob's alliance alienated her.
I think the reason Sandra's game flies under the radar is because of how good she is. she finds the weak point of the people running the show, then uses it to get them to make a move that sends them home, but they don't even realize because they think it was their own fault when really Sandra moved all the chess pieces to make it happen. she's better than people give her credit for
Wow Tony totally won with the Meat Shield strategy in Winners at War, I didn’t realize it was pioneered by Jeremy. So effective being the second biggest threat when everyone is constantly thinking about who they don’t want to sit next to at the end
"Wendell is one of the best social players" that didn't age well 😂
he & Dom played great together, but I thought Dom should of won
Brett Larkin him and don were both great and had similar play styles which is why they both deserved the win. i’m more of a Wendell guy tho but love them both
Brett Larkin Wendell deserved his win imo
wendell got screwed in the edit this season, i dont think he was as bad as they portrayed him. mostly because they made it seem like there was a lot of bad blood and awkwardness between michelle and him, but they were pretty much working together, and wendell even gave one of his fire tokens to michelle. we definitely didnt get the full story of what went down with wendell.
I feel that Wendell played great in his winning season. Idk what happened this season, maybe the awkwardness between him and Michelle got to him.
Sophie's signature move is definitely convincing Coach to vote out Brandon. The "Ozzy's Pleasure Dome" argument deserves more attention!!
This!!
20:25 good to see that move get proper credit, because had Sarah not gotten the Legacy Advantage she would have been voted out.
Probably would of been a Brad win 🤢
@@damien2372 more likely tai or cirie, I don’t see brad beating either of them
@@soggyramen6031 I don’t think Cirie would of made final 3 tbh… unless Tai or Aubrey voted each other out. So Tai most likely wins which is a good alternative
Danni was brilliant. She was down in numbers at the merge, and instead of trying to target the top dogs (Rafe and Steph) while they were picking her allies off one by one, she cozied up to them and it saved her. Absolutely brilliant.
Ethan Snider and nobody, not even production, knew it was coming
She's my favorite female winner and Tony is my favorite male winner.
I feel as though Danni doesn't get enough credit as the first meta-gamer in Survivor, and i'm genuinely shocked it's not a strategy we hear even in post game interviews as something being used. Danni had almost a purple edit in Guatemala because in her words, she would ramble in confessions, making them unusable, and causing production to ask her more questions. She did this because she realized that all the questions to prompt confessionals were related to the strategic games being played, so she used production to get more information and give none.
Natalie Anderson is one of my favorite winners of all time. Her careful timing for the perfect strike could not have gone better! And the fact that she orchestrated so many final vote outs, and still got the most votes, iconic!!
I literally never thought about how if Sandra didn’t do that to Coach she would’ve been voted off
Amber was saved because of the deal Rob made with Lex. She didn't have to do anything. Her key move was aligning with Rob.
I disagree. Rob made the pitch which helped, but Amber had to do the leg work and convince KATHY to keep her. Kathy was Lex's right hand, and she held a lot of influence in that pairing. If Amber did not make a good enough argument for herself, it is likely she would've been knocked out at F10 and who knows Lex could've taken over the game after the merge. But Amber's underrated strong social game coupled with some good charm convinced her enemies to keep her. That is a subtle but effective part of her gameplay. She is a person who excelled at the UTR strategy and it worked in those early seasons of survivor. Years after this, Natalie in s18 would employ a similar strategy and win over the overrated Russell Hantz.
@@multiplemike5021 Her social game helped I guess. But that just helped her on top of the deal between Rob and Lex. That alone did not save her.
Honestly
Not making a move might be better than making a move, and that in itself is a strategy, Shii Ann recognized early on that Amber was playing under the radar and was gonna win, Sandra has a loud personality but her game is subtle, in HvV she forms good relationships with the people who'll form the jury and ends up winning the season over betrayal heavy and hard players Parvati and Russell, Parvati even tried to convince Russell to vote out Sandra but he's a really bad social player and didn't do the reading
@@Awesomenesswithacherryontop Yes, I agree that Sandra deserved to win HvV, but this is about Amber. I'm not saying she had no social game. I'm saying that it wasn't her social game that saved her. It was Lex holding up his end of the deal that saved her.
@@gengarcrobat1576 Gengar Crobat I mean, yeah, but having an alliance in itself can be strategy, if you watched Marquesas, Rob played just as hard, in All Stars, Amber had a good reading on how she would do if she aligned with Rob, and basically just win from there, because she knew Rob would protect her and he's a really good manipulator and a mafioso player, and that she would win over him because she pissed less people off than the one more exposed by being the face of the strategy, while she was the one workin' behind the scenes, and it helped her case that Lex didn't listen to Jerri who basically outlined his downfall.
An underrated part of Rob's win on Redemption Island was spelled out be Natalie at the reunion - they didn't show too much of it, but she credited him with forming a really strong, personal connection with pretty much everybody on the island. Even when it's smart to vote somebody out, it's difficult to do it on a personal level when you see that person as a good friend. He played an incredible social game.
"Please don't flame out early" well I have some good news for your past self lol
Lmaooooo
Sophie’s biggest move: crying at the final 5 tribal. Hear me out, the savaii only saw that upolu was heartless(and more) and when they saw Sophie cry, it made her more human than the others. That’s what her biggest move is. Honorable mention: her convincing coach to get out Brandon
Something that makes Nick's win even more impressive is the fact that, if not for a player getting medically evacuated, he would have been the 1st boot
This was actually revealed to be untrue by Davie, who said they were considering Lyrsa and Pat.
@@noahtabensky7030 damn, well I still like to believe it ig
@@noahtabensky7030 damn, well I still like to believe it ig
I would say Sophie’s best move was her FTC performance. I feel like it doesn’t matter what game she plays, if she makes it to the end, she will convince you she played the best game ever.
also her tribal performance convincing ben and adam to get rid of rob - her performances at tribal are really convincing and a huge asset to her game.
Her best move was beating Ozzy in final immunity that's the only thing I ever give credit to for her I've never been a fan of hers
Wow, you just brought back a memory i didnt know I had. For context my mom passed away back in 2015, so one of the last seasons of survivor we watched together was Tony's season. Talking llama became a really big joke around my house, we even had this chalkboard in our kitchen that said 'Talking Llama Cafe'. Thanks for reminding me about that..
I can't believe your videos don't have more views, they're fantastic! Keep up the good work, I am sure that the rest of the survivor community will catch up eventually :)
Thank you, that's so kind of you to say! I've only just started out about a month ago, and comments like this are super encouraging. Glad you've been enjoying them!
I'd love to see a video like this for the remaining winners who weren't on WaW!
Well, I mean, for Sophie, why would you make a move when you were on a very direct road to winning? There was no need, she was gonna win no matter what, she won immunity when she needed to, she let people around her make moves that'll piss the jury off, and WaW is proving she can play hard, even if she doesn't win, she's gonna be known for playing one of the best games among the winners
Really? I think she is playing a good game to get to F7, if she survives, but a bad game to get to final tribal and win the 2 million. If this was just the pre-merge, I would agree that she played well. But since the merge, she needs to start taking bigger risks and I don't see that in her style of play. I think she will be knocked out very soon actually, as she is a hyena who will be targeted by the lions soon enough. I just don't see how she is playing one of the best games amongst the winners. I think Tony is playing the best of any of them and no one else is close. Sarah is doing well too, but she made a big mistake at the F11 reward.
One of the least deserving winners.
People r mad at her coz ozzy and coach didnt win lol
Sipu97 Bullshit. She was a critical part of her alliance. Coach fans need to shut up about this
@vaporterra Please don't make assumptions about others based on their dislike of someone winning. I couldn't care less about Coach. That season was just a mess and not many there really did anything in order to deserve winning.
I think Ethan's best move was throwing the challenge after the swap to protect Lex and Tom and eliminate a big threat (Silas).
I feel like Michele's move that won her the game was taking our Neil with the remove a jury member advantage -- If Neil is there, Aubry gets his vote so it's 5-3, but I'm positive his praise of her game could sway at least one more person, resulting in a tie, and if that was the case Tai votes for Aubry to win as the finalist not in the tie
Had Neal been in the jury at FTC, he would talkef his way to getring the jury to vote fir Aubry to win, and Michele knows it.. it showed she did the right move when Neal dissed her, on his way to being the virst jury voted out.
@@shofranz-moss4002 For sure. He would have at least swayed it to a tie, which Tai would have broken, and obviously in favor of Aubry. But more than likely he could have gotten 2, enough to give Aubry the win outright.
I don't know the way he was talking when he left could have swayed people away from voting for Aubry because he came off a bit aggressive. I mean there's no way he would sway my vote coming at Michelle like that. Unless he made good arguments, but usually it comes across really annoying advocating for someone.
Adam's biggest move was convincing Ken to break his code of honor and vote out David. If David had gotten to the end he would have beaten Adam.
I still think about the fact that Wu lost the game by winning the final immunity challenge
“Fan favorite game changer Sierra Dawn-Thomas” 😂😂😂💀💀
After Tony’s episode to get Sophie out, he has the new best move in the history of the game imo
I'm pretty sure the Ozzy blindside should be credited to Cirie and not Parv.
I just wanted to comment and say that your work on these videos is very good and very much appreciated! I've been looking for survivor analysis videos of any sort for months and this is easily one of the best three channels out there (rivalling Peridiam and Once Upon An Island). I don't understand how you don't have more views and subscribers because you definitely deserve more! I hope you start to rack up more soon as your work is very good and I hope you get more views/subscribers soon.
Thank you so much for the kind words! Trust me, it's my pleasure to get to talk Survivor with you guys!
Thanks for this one!! I needed this run down on the Winners
Winners at War Signature Moves For (mostly) Every Player thus far
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- Natalie: Continuously acquiring fire tokens on the island that led her to be the single richest player on Edge at the time
- Amber: Uh... I don't know... maybe giving her fire token to Rob (her husband)
- Danni: I don't know...
- Ethan: His heroic moment of pushing through the log challenge until the completion
- Tyson: Peanut Butter... and getting himself back into the game then playing low the first eviction of merge
- Rob: Being able to make a tribe of all winners remain silent for an entire day leading up to tribal (tho that was also his downfall). Also making a full tribe of winners dump out their bags at tribal in front of everyone in attempt to find who has the idol.
- Parvarti: Selling a 50/50 idol to Michelle for 4 fire tokens (which Michelle should've never taken)
- Sandra: She didn't do much other than successfully sit out of every single competition in the game (or at least those shown on the show)
- Yul: Organizing the idea of the poker alliance that ultimately got Amber and Tyson voted out.
- Wendel: Playing into the idea that Michele and Wendel had a toxic relationship outside the game, while secretly working together the entire time. A brilliant coverup of an alliance.
- Adam: Attempting to grab an idol that was supposedly located in Tribal in front of everyone... wish it was real...
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- Ben: Calling adam out before and during tribal to be seen as a distraction while everyone around them was deciding on who would ultimately be voted out.
- Denise: ... you know what she did ... a truly epic vote out of the Queen "sandra" herself with her one and only vote.
- Jeremy: Orchestrating the blindside of Rob and Adam by voting out Ethan instead.
- Kim: Getting the target off of her back and hiding back into the background after clearly being on the outs for the first few days in the game.
- Michele: (same as Jeremy)
- Nick: honestly no idea...
- Sarah: Playing both sides while alining closely both Sophie and Tony. Laying low even tho she had one of the biggest target during interviews before playing.
- Sophie: Essentially being the one person calling all the shots without anyone realizing it in the process.
- Tony: Laying low and keeping a target off his back even with being one of the most infamous winners in survivor history.
I though Nick had a really good, possibly signature, move this week: knowing he was the target, he whispered to Tyson that Sophie was gunning for him (no clue if this was even true), eventually leading to all the chaos and different targets. He stirred the pot just enough to get Adam to overplay and saved himself.
You do such a good job, and you’re so funny. Thanks for getting me through the pandemic.
I haven’t watched survivor in years but am loving your channel! Maybe I’ll have to check this season out because Yul was my fave winner
One of Tonys greatest moves was turning his alliance against AJ by giving him true infos without evidence which made AJ looked like a paranoid madman. That was some sick mob boss move right there.
AJ?
Cracks me up watching this after winners at war: “Don’t vote Tony out early”
Love the videos. I can’t ever get enough survivor so thank you for the content.
“Don’t flame out early” The winner of Survivor Winners at War…TONY!!!
Ethan's biggest and best move is clearly throwing the challenge for Boran to gain the upper hand on both tribes after the first swap of all time that nobody knew how to deal with! It was historic and set the end game!
I like the way you described things. It almost justifies those "winners" who probably should not have won based on the editing footage us viewers saw. People like Sophie, Natalie, Sarah(It's Lacina now). I can justify Sandra's first win at Pearl Islands because Lil was a trainwreck and everyone else cannibalized eachother, but the second time probably should have been Parvati.
I would like to see someone make a video that dissects each controversial season's winner by backtracking to what possibilites could have happened to avoid it. Though half were just bitter juries.
I appreciate this video because it shows that every winner did something right to get to the end and win the game. Regardless of what happened or what will happen in Winners at War, despite some pathetic attempts in the comments, no one can take that away from them.
Sophie took out Brandon and made sure the Upolu 5 didn’t separate because coach and Albert wanted to make moves
Sophie coasted lol
ZyclonX no
@@jackpeter7924 she 100% did, Coach should've won that season. There are a lot of coasters who are back for winners at war and Sophie is one of them. Her gameplay this time around is a lot better though I'll give her that! Least shes actually playing.
@@WadeGaffney she did exactly what she needed to do to win South Pacific. Why rock the boat when there is nothing to gain from it? And her 'Ozzy's Pleasure Dome' argument was masterful
@@soaps7796 I guess you just value non existent gameplay when it comes to winners. I bet you think Michelle deserved to win over Aubry too.
Such a helpful refresher. TY!
Sandra is so underrated because she took out a lot of America's sweethearts. She's strategic and socially amazing.
Yul, a personal favorite, was the mob boss of his season
Denise's signature move was convincing Lisa and Skupin to vote Abi out at final five when they should have gotten rid of Denise
Need more great Survivor channels like yours. Keep it up!
Thank you for the kind words!
Great video. Keep it coming!
Awww poor Sophie, Lol. And that is the reason why she went into Season 40 with a massive chip on her shoulder and was looking to pull off some big moves.
My queen Sophie didn’t need a flashy move to win, homegirl came to get a check and left with one. Now that she’s got her check she’s coming to take names
@@TheMurrmursonbottle I'm watching South Pacific right now. Sophie is definitely a fav of mine already.
Sophie is playing a good UTR game right now, but I don't think she can win. She is playing too passive and really not making any major moves. Yes I know she influenced the Wendell vote out and she has an idol, but I just get the feeling watching her that she is not driving the narrative. Plus the Wendell move only worked because the power alliance run by Tony also wanted him out, she is not playing with any real power in the tribe. It does feel to me like she is playing somewhat similar to Sandra's "anyone but me" style, but the problem is that I don't see a person who is her core alliance member where she can both feel safe AND in control of their pairing (think JT/ Stephen or Tony/Woo). Who is her #2?. Sometimes the right thing to do is to not make any big moves, but often it is not how you can win modern day survivor. I get the feeling that Sophie will play her idol at F10, and then be voted out in one of the next two tribals. If she came into the game wanting to change her reputation as a quiet/passive player, I'm sorry to say but I think she hasn't done much in my eyes to deserve the 2 mil at this point. She is one of two female hyenas in the game right now, and the way the edit is going, I think she will be eaten by the lions of the tribe soon enough.
@@multiplemike5021 Everything you said is true BUT I think at this time it is best to not make a big play. There are too many people still in the game. There are no alliances set still and I think everyone is watching out for someone trying to make that big move. Remember these are all winners who know the signs of a big move. All of them know if they make a big move then they are most likely on the chopping block next tribal council. The only previous winning strategy I can really think of working in this game is meat shields... and of course being in the background. Sandra was KNOWN for her "as long as it's not me" strategy, Sophie isn't. I really believe at this stage of the game it's not the right time for a big move. Maybe why no one is playing their advantages.
@@cjtrules1 That just changed with episode 10. Jeremy effectively ended his chances of winning tonight, and Kim is also in serious trouble. I think she goes out next, and then Sophie is gone right after her. I can't wait for next week. Tony has played a masterful game this season, and watch as he reminds everyone why they should've gotten rid of him in the pre-merge. Next week will be his episode to shine, I can feel it.
Tony.....please don’t flameout early
LOL
Sophie's signature move was FTC.
I love how Tony Vlachos used Jeremy's meat shield strategy to win Winners at War. He also instituted his Spy Nest and social game of awesome likability to become, in my opinion, the best Survivor player of all time: the B-SPOAT.
Tony Vlachos is undeniably the Survivor G O A T right now. Could change if we get to Season 50 or later and see other games in the future but now this is the best game of all time complete from day 1 to day 39...
Great analysis man!
I feel like the whole survivor all stars situation would’ve been solved very easily. If at the challenge at the tribe swap, Robs tribe threw the challenge, they could’ve voted off the one in the minority so they’d still go into the merge with numbers and the jury wouldn’t despise rob. Then rob would probably win because the elimination order would probably be the same
so glad tony is still going strong in season 40! great video.
Agreed, Tony has been fun to watch both entertainment and gameplay wise
I've honestly been rooting for Tony all season, especially NOW.
Sophie has one of the strongest FTC performance. She dragged coach to the mud.
Great video!
Adam 18:44 - Convincing an enemy (Will) to flip to get the numbers back at Final 9 and then voting out that same person at the next tribal
Amber 3:34 - Escaping being voted out after being handed the most unfavorable tripe swap possible
Ben 20:49 - Idol play at Final 7 when everyone voted for him
Boston Rob 9:20 - Buddy System
Danni 4:19 - Socially maneuvered into an alliance with power players, including Rafe and then eliminating him at final 3
Denise 12:53 - Voting out the girls to position herself as the #1 ally of both Russell and Malcolm
Ethan 1:07 - Aligning with Lex and Big Tom
Jeremy 16:44 Meat shield strategy
Kim 11:32 - Votes Jay out after Jay confides in her that Troyzan is plotting against her and flushes out Troyzan's idol
Michelle 17:50 - Abandoning a sinking ship and joining the majority alliance by voting out Julia
Natalie 16:07 Waiting to strike and vote out John until Final 6. Eliminating the other alliance first.
Nick 22:34 Collaborating with his alliance to use idol on Christian and split the minority vote at Final 12
Parvati 6:42 - Blindsiding Ozzy
Sandra 2:22 - Rallying together Darrah and Lil to blindside Burton at final 5
Sandra (HvV) 8:10 Feeding a false rumor to a paranoid Russel that Coach wants him out. This takes the target off of her and Courtney.
Sarah 19:48 - Voting Sierra out and getting Sierra to will the legacy advantage to her
Sophie 10:05 - Not making a move and convincing her alliance to not be gamebots ("making unnecessary moves for the sake of being flashy")
Tony 14:39 - Convincing Woo to take him to the Final 2
Tyson 13:56 - Joining the singles and getting the pairs voted out
Wendell 21:37 - Forming friendship with Laurel and Dominick
Yul 5:41 - Getting Penner to jump ship and join his alliance at Final 9 when the Aitu 4 were outnumbered
Those winner portraits are really good
Really well made video! Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
Why doesn't Kim get any respect from other players? Season 24 was the 3rd most dominant season ever (behind Rob's 22 and Tony's 28) and yet no one was scared of her on 40.
Everyone there is, quite literally, a winner. No one could be bigger than the other
Yul was the freaking Godfather/Mob Boss in Cook Islands. He was putting out hits left and right using the idol.
Parvatis best move was also in HvV with the double idol olay
I liked Parvati in Heros vs Villains more than I did in Micronesia. Not only does she pull off the double idol move but she was a challenge beast and won a bunch of immunity challenges. In Heros vs Villains she was a legit physical threat. She did win one immunity challenge in Micronesia but I felt like she wasn't quite the challenge beast in that season. Also she was more cautious as she actually passed on an immunity idol in that season.
You should make a video that breaks down each advantage and shows the best use of that advantage.
My favorite season in the last couple years. So much nostalgia, cbs capitalized on it.
Danni messed up her face I didn't recognize her the 1st time they show her on s40 then I saw her old pic and remembered her.
Same I didn’t even recognize her
This was well-researched
Adam never did convinced Will to flip on the majority alliance of Zeke. It was a move credited to the man himself.
I love Tony, he’s the best and soooo fun to watch
Sophie’s iconic move was ozzy’s pleasure dome
Everyone said Sandra won Pearl Islands, because she sticked to a strong player. But she had ideas, and then, when there was space, she totally ruled the game. At first, she took Dara to spy on Burton and John, she got Burton blindsided by she blindsided all of them one by one then and as last, she still seemed like a weak player, so Lil took her to final 2. Genius!
Ben's biggest move was being production's favorite.
“please don’t flame out early” tony heard you and said lemme get the spy nest now
It looked like Ben was given idols,he was a controversial winner for a reason,Even past players commented on his winning. Survivor did something unprecedented with him I believe-he found an idol Off camera 🙄😕😕 Please
jmnny85 definitely fishy
Kinda wanna see a video like this for this winners who didn't make the cut for 40, like Tina Wesson and that guy from edge of extinction
Awesome videos, do a video on Shane Powers!
Sarah ALSO saw a secret advantage meant for Mykayla and took it before she could see it. THEN USED IT TO GET MYKAYLA OUT
I remember Adam's season. I loved David! I remember liking Ben as well. He was great!
95KyBoo BEN?!
@@annieking5555 Yess believe it or not he was an underdog in his season and I remember cheering for him!
"Please don't flame out early" WELL DO I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS FOR YOU!
I think it’s even more impressive that Malcolm thought Russel would vote for Denise at the Final 15.
Yeah, those are pretty impressive moves
Why am i watching this i don’t even watch survivor
Tony’s my favorite on winners at war
Epic Adam Same!
Tony wooing Woo in taking him to the final two proves Tony is expert at Jedi Mind Trick.
His season could be called Star Wars:Cagayan.