How to Write EPIC Cinematic Strings

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  • @RyanLeach
    @RyanLeach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    🎻 Without This Your Orchestration Sounds Thin th-cam.com/video/m9A5nwkHECA/w-d-xo.html

  • @eosborne6495
    @eosborne6495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    I have been absolutely loving these videos. I’ve been playing folk and jazz music for most of my life, but never felt qualified to write in a more “classical” style. You do such a great job of demystifying orchestral music so I finally have the confidence to start writing down my ideas. Thank you thank you!

    • @RyanLeach
      @RyanLeach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thank you, glad it was helpful!

    • @siddonarski7428
      @siddonarski7428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      if you would write proper Jazz, im sorry but you could write basically anything..

  • @rwlab1253
    @rwlab1253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I really, really (seriously) enjoy the fact that you took the time to make short and sectioned videos that are focused on specific techniques. I have seen countless "Cinematic Strings" videos that drag on for an hour and is basically a livestream recording. Your videos are dense and concise on the other hand. THANK YOU RYAN!

  • @lung6171
    @lung6171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Oh my god, that's a GREAT lesson. Thank you!

  • @TylerJMacDonald
    @TylerJMacDonald 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Not once in years of music school was a concept illustrated so well like this, well done!

  • @fakecubed
    @fakecubed 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Back when I was playing violin in an orchestra for years, I just focused on playing my part and had no idea what everyone else was doing. I wish I had gotten just a simple 5 minute lesson on this sort of thing early on, exactly like this, and it would have given me such a better understanding of music and my role in the sound. For a brief time as a kid I thought it would be cool to be a composer but I just never got any education that would help me on that way.

  • @simongross3122
    @simongross3122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Terrific lesson, thank you. For me the step that had the most impact was adding in the grumpy double basses

    • @RyanLeach
      @RyanLeach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks, yea as someone who played double bass in high school I have a fondness for those bears as well

    • @simongross3122
      @simongross3122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RyanLeach Well you have my admiration. I have tried to play DB and I discovered that my fingers were not strong enough. It's an awesome instrument. The best I can manage is noodling around on a baritone sax :)

    • @samdajellybeenie14
      @samdajellybeenie14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Double bass player here! I absolutely love playing John Williams’s music - it’s so well orchestrated and powerful!

    • @Lufade
      @Lufade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simongross3122 Ohhh the buttery tone you can get with a bari sax though!!!

    • @simongross3122
      @simongross3122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lufade I have to say bari sax is the most fun to play of any instrument I've tried. And yes it can be surprisingly lyrical as well as grumpy grouchy :)

  • @spacedjace57
    @spacedjace57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i also think that its great to have the cellos play the melody is that most orchestras have the cellos on the opposite of the violins. giving it this effect of being wrapped up in the melody and really solidifies it as the melody

  • @kelamuni
    @kelamuni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    As a violinist and violist who's played in orchestras for years and is now studying voicing and harmony so as to get into arranging, this was useful. subscribing.

  • @EVDMcomposer
    @EVDMcomposer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    So today I was busy with a string section for a song I am working on and it just sounded all too ... flat and empty. So I listened to Across the Stars to find some idea or inspiration to guide me. Then your video just popped up explaining how to orchestrate better, fuller string sections using Across the Stars as an example. What a coincidence!

  • @louispearson8306
    @louispearson8306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This man just giving away the big secrets like candy

    • @RyanLeach
      @RyanLeach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha it's all in the books I just read them

  • @kittyneko7
    @kittyneko7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The mention of parallel octaves set me back 13 years when I’d receive my harmony homework with red parallel lines all over it. Our teacher really didn’t want us playing it back on the piano to check our work, but looking back on it, I think I would have figured out how to practically apply what I learned in class if I hadn’t followed that guidance.

    • @BrofUJu
      @BrofUJu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Confused by this. Parallel octaves are all over the place in classical music through history, parallel fifths are not.

  • @jamescalvey5273
    @jamescalvey5273 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another fantastic tutorial thank you for making Ryan! You are an asset to the composing community 👏👏

  • @kondsiccMusic
    @kondsiccMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always struggled with writing orchestral works classified as "classical" but they never sound classical nor did they achieve the effect I want. This lesson on strings truly brought the entire level of the work up an octave. Thanks Ryan!

  • @Lufade
    @Lufade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ryan, just....thank you. Your videos have had a noticeable impact on my work in a very short period of time. I just put together a 9 voice section in strings (using the beastly method B), and I'm a little blown away by how powerful it's sounding. Exactly what I needed this part to be! I've just become a Patron and I'll be looking to your content here and there quite frequently from now on. Thanks!!

    • @RyanLeach
      @RyanLeach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's so great to hear, thank you

  • @benjaminduk5764
    @benjaminduk5764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is such a great lesson! Please do more of these.

  • @DavidManu-io9bo
    @DavidManu-io9bo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is abbbsoluuuute epic

  • @davidbobowski3604
    @davidbobowski3604 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a good way to describe without getting into the harmonic series!

  • @cynax7757
    @cynax7757 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely love these videos. I'm a flutist and clarinetist.

  • @seanjamesmacleod241
    @seanjamesmacleod241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing I got more understanding. It’s funny by hear I was already doing most this because it sounded better to me just never knew the principle was actually something that can be done.

  • @thynature
    @thynature 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great lesson.
    The filler line is very interesting as a concept!

    • @RyanLeach
      @RyanLeach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I agree, and outside of this obscure book I’m not sure I’ve seen it talked about

  • @dknowbeatz3665
    @dknowbeatz3665 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every video I play from your channel, I immediately hit the like button because I know I'm about to receive some incredibly helpful information. Thanks a ton, Ryan.

  • @CarlineFrancois
    @CarlineFrancois 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing this video. It will help in my compositions for my album. This gave me a new idea.🎶🎸🎵🎶💕

  • @dylanschweitzer18
    @dylanschweitzer18 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic work!

  • @remiweisrock
    @remiweisrock 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe the best 6 min i've spent on a video for my knowledge. Man that's good !

  • @Antonio_Ortiz
    @Antonio_Ortiz ปีที่แล้ว

    Super-quick and the colored string lines really helped illustrate the point. Earned a sub.

  • @brianhanington470
    @brianhanington470 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!!!!!!

  • @lim7lim
    @lim7lim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only play the piano, but it's interesting to see how much that enables me to read an orchestral score, or understand how a piano score would balloon into an orchestral one.

  • @FilmScoreandMore
    @FilmScoreandMore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really interesting and informative video! I knew exactly what theme this was as soon as that first chord hit.

  • @cefcephatus
    @cefcephatus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This opens up my eyes to how an iterative approach is used for writing music. Thank you very much!

  • @jeanpierrecarpentier
    @jeanpierrecarpentier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are really helpful and the simple direct to the point explanations are worth analyzing and learning. Thanks for sharing that precious knowledge.

  • @andreasadler7279
    @andreasadler7279 ปีที่แล้ว

    Short and sweet nevertheless massive info. Vielen Dank 🙏

  • @lorenzocorsomusic1308
    @lorenzocorsomusic1308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Lesson !!!

  • @Phloxx1
    @Phloxx1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Ryan. Great video!
    What would be great is if you’d showed each individual voice at the end, so we would have an idea what each voice sounded like

  • @irradix213
    @irradix213 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for these linked lessons, this is the only one i knew most of already, but needed a review, together they fill out a big picture of things just sitting right

  • @GTORT
    @GTORT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally the best channel on this platform.

  • @detlefkrystofiak3838
    @detlefkrystofiak3838 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Ryan,
    I have never seen such a comprehensible explanation.
    Thank you for this detailed video.

  • @seanfourie7
    @seanfourie7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your tutorials Ryan

    • @RyanLeach
      @RyanLeach  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks I appreciate it!

  • @DanielLight
    @DanielLight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very helpful! Thanks.

  • @MusicMazhic
    @MusicMazhic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you please make a video how to have a rich combination of the woodwinds and strings?

  • @cactusowo1835
    @cactusowo1835 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for crating ^ ^

  • @guitarmichael
    @guitarmichael 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is an absolute goldmine!

  • @josephyagappan1896
    @josephyagappan1896 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful!!

  • @gavinleepermusic
    @gavinleepermusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Really liked this one, Ryan!

  • @samtasticsongs3012
    @samtasticsongs3012 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful! Please do more videos like this!

  • @emilianorevert2358
    @emilianorevert2358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Thanks for doing this stuff! My orch teacher used to call the filler the "hidden harmony".

    • @RyanLeach
      @RyanLeach  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, that's a great term!

  • @_donut6817
    @_donut6817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is increadible

  • @tuzemec9005
    @tuzemec9005 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are my angel bro❤ Th very very very much .God bless you

  • @cozmicrahop9415
    @cozmicrahop9415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I was looking for to complete my midi-orchestration self learning....😢😢😢🥇💯

  • @शिव_सागर
    @शिव_सागर ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You Very Much Sir!
    🙂🙏

  • @suhaibal-samman4806
    @suhaibal-samman4806 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much 🙏🏻💜

  • @Jack-pl1fn
    @Jack-pl1fn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much

  • @羊-y5c
    @羊-y5c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing as always Ryan 👏

    • @RyanLeach
      @RyanLeach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

  • @dvera9948
    @dvera9948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much, I just made a composition for a short film and the strings ended up sounding great. I Love your videos

  • @albertolopez2697
    @albertolopez2697 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great video, very helpful and handy. Thanks Ryan

  • @MrCrompz
    @MrCrompz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow!

  • @jimli0624
    @jimli0624 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you!

  • @grant999mtl
    @grant999mtl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazingly helpful! Are these different breakdowns also applied to the brass and woodwind sections of an orchestra?

  • @ericsbuds
    @ericsbuds ปีที่แล้ว

    thats wild how much it sounded more and more like the movie with each expansion

  • @Ohleysmokes
    @Ohleysmokes หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such an amazing Channel

  • @JakopAxx
    @JakopAxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this! So happy that i have found this channel. Great work!

  • @Hubson55
    @Hubson55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG! Ryan, your channel is a real revelation for me! 😍

  • @SharmaYelverton
    @SharmaYelverton ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic.

  • @giovanniperin
    @giovanniperin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great channel!!

  • @alexandrequeiroz3211
    @alexandrequeiroz3211 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soooo great!! Thank you so much for the videos!!!

  • @tonio3375
    @tonio3375 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like your lessons! Very clear and concise!

  • @zimouspero
    @zimouspero 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good info

  • @XoIoRouge
    @XoIoRouge 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have a lesson on writing in Choral Style? I'm struggling with coming up with the core parts.

  • @AaronAsherRandall
    @AaronAsherRandall ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely incredible explanation! Exactly what I needed!
    Question, what would the brass and winds do during a passage like this? Do you have any videos or resources on that?

  • @ThomC
    @ThomC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Ryan, thank you for sharing! :)

  • @joshuanirmal9068
    @joshuanirmal9068 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extraordinary. Thank you so much, gentleman. ♥️

  • @zakfoster1
    @zakfoster1 ปีที่แล้ว

    This helps....Massively

  • @beethovennine
    @beethovennine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Cheers from Argentina!

  • @yansaemusic
    @yansaemusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @ishagshafeeg
    @ishagshafeeg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. So beautiful

  • @Johannes_Brunnhuber
    @Johannes_Brunnhuber 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sublime stuff

  • @Yonikaii
    @Yonikaii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This content is really really useful! Thank you for your efforts and for sharing your knowledge!

  • @athishayjain.m.k9257
    @athishayjain.m.k9257 ปีที่แล้ว

    VERY NICE... CAN WE HAVE MORE EXPLATION ON DOIN FILLER NOTES plzz tq soo much

  • @BombedNevada
    @BombedNevada 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s a like from me my dude. Great vid! Now if only someone could teach me how to write a bomb melody and chord progression like that.

  • @michellamontagne
    @michellamontagne 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ryan nicely taught

  • @Илья-ж7к4г
    @Илья-ж7к4г ปีที่แล้ว

    Спасибо! Очень полезно)
    И Очень доступно доносите материал!))

  • @octatonicgardenmarcospi4978
    @octatonicgardenmarcospi4978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video. Thanks!

  • @jordanrazowskymusician8178
    @jordanrazowskymusician8178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great!

  • @Johnstone565
    @Johnstone565 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @13Semitones
    @13Semitones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really useful. Thank you!

  • @napoleon96420
    @napoleon96420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you teach us how to compose a symphony and then turn piano into orchestra in FL studio? Thx

    • @RyanLeach
      @RyanLeach  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We'll get there, one video at a time! No idea how to use FL studio though.

  • @steamer2k319
    @steamer2k319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome. Do you have any thoughts, guidelines or interesting examples around extending this approach to incorporate brass, woodwind and/or percussion?

  • @Lotschi
    @Lotschi ปีที่แล้ว

    I have developed an interest for composition over the last two years, so I really appreciate videos like yours.
    What software do you use, here for example? 0:10

  • @Hert42
    @Hert42 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice orchestration, if you have enough players per section to go into division though...

  • @Collect-AI
    @Collect-AI ปีที่แล้ว

    So helpful. Thanks. What SAW are you using in this video?

    • @RyanLeach
      @RyanLeach  ปีที่แล้ว

      for a DAW I use Logic

  • @zlodr9369
    @zlodr9369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Вот это алгоритмы ютуба выдали ! Райан, спасибо за годную информацию, лайк, подписка))

  • @pwoody1958
    @pwoody1958 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff! Thank you so much - I found this really useful. One small suggestion: maybe drop out the background music while you're talking. It's very distracting and messes with my tonal memory of what I've just heard. Thanks!

  • @sharpproductions-frankbria8380
    @sharpproductions-frankbria8380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So in 9 voices option B, the tenor line goes up to Violas 2? It would be awesome to see a full graphic of the lines for 9 voices option B in the video, just as feedback.
    By the way, I love this video and you do a great job of representing the orchestration techniques of these books. Ever think of doing a video where you just cover orchestration texts? (Kind of like you did with the orchestral scores?) I'd probably binge a few of them. :)

  • @rasmussavic4289
    @rasmussavic4289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing.

  • @dmitrysoroka1981
    @dmitrysoroka1981 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Ryan. Can you explain, please, why at stage of creating four voice harmony we care so much about voice leading, correct tone doubling, spacing between alto and tenor (I mean close and wide chord position)? But at the stage of orchestration it looks like that all is not still so important, and any chord tone is doubled several times in any octave. Are there still some rules, which of voices and when can be doubled? Maybe some special cases for 6 and 6/4 chords? What if chord is 7, can we double seventh of this chord in octave as well in some other instrument?

  • @MichaelJohnson-composer
    @MichaelJohnson-composer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, Ryan! Are you planning on doing a video about mixing symphonic music? I’m having a hell of a time working with orchestral plug-ins in Logic Pro X. Is there a video that you’ve already done that you can recommend?
    By the way, your videos have revitalized my creativity. I’ve been learning so much about orchestration from you. Thanks for the great work!

    • @RyanLeach
      @RyanLeach  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably not in the near future, but I would suggest you check out the recent livestream we did with Joel Dollie as well as his YT channel and course on Master the Score

  • @seekertosecrets
    @seekertosecrets ปีที่แล้ว

    I may have to use this in a melody that I have for a villainous character I've been developing.

  • @onwuzudika4338
    @onwuzudika4338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Ryan! I only just discovered your channel two weeks ago, but the videos have been so enlightening that I've found myself drinking through most of them! Thanks for the lessons and the comprehensive way you provide us young urn with the info✌️😅.
    The example in the first 13 seconds of this particular video had me hooked immediately, and actually pushed me to try my hand at trying to expand one of my favourite pieces into an orchestral version of itself.
    It's slow going (I don't have much in the way of formal music training, and taught myself most of what little I know) but it's actually going 😄 Wish you could give your opinion on my attempt so far (fingers crossed on a response).
    But seriously, thanks for your content⭐

  • @mazetoeden9334
    @mazetoeden9334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very helpful indeed

  • @arendbruijn
    @arendbruijn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful video!