I know the art on the box is heavily altered from its inspiration cover, but it struck me as funny just how much they changed Mockingbird's appearance, just to match the figure in the set.
A solid set, that I'll hope to catch on clearance. Something I wonder about Silver Centurion is how it would look with taking a light-blue wash over the white bits. I know he looked white in the comics, but he also always had a light blue shading to give it a shiny, metal look and I think that's lost here. He doesn't look quite right to me with just white, marble plastic.
Immediate thumbs up for the opening Mockingbird segment! Great review! Love the upgrades to Tigra and Spider-Woman. Really hoping for the long pants version of Mockingbird with a smaller mask. That's the look that I grew up with.
Hasbro should’ve just used the lady deathstrike arms for mocking bird, they hang lower and puff out more. Could be a quick kitbash and repaint for a play day 🤔
I like my underdogs, and to me the West Coast Avengers always felt like the underdog losers. Which is probably why I like them more unless it's some grandiose Avengers story being told. This set seems like a mixed bag. Tigra seems like a straight-up improvement with the more subdued orange. I prefer the head on the old Spider-Woman (the eyes on the new one look weird, and the hair a bit lifeless), but everything else on the new one. It took us way too long to get double-jointed elbows, and I'm still annoyed whenever they go with the old ones. Looking at you, Mockingbird! The sleeves don't look great, so they could at least be more functional. And you're completely right to focus on that Silver Centurion head articulation. You'd think a company that has given us 3000 Iron Man figures wouldn't mess that up. I've gotten big back into Legends recently thanks to the new Bucky Cap and Black Widow, so I may wait or this set to go on sale, but I wouldn't be too sad to miss out on it. I can live with the old Spider-Woman and Tigra, and the others I can live without (or expect a better version of later in the case of Mockingbird).
WCA wasn't my bag. But I dig the one-and-done nature of this set. A smattering of reuse with some upgrades and tweaks. Not perfect but good for what you need it to be - a comprise, if you will. I hope the ML team does more like sets like this in the future. A Champions or Defenders box set like this could work. Or the Slingers.
Love West Coast Avengers, mainly because I’m on the West Coast lol. But I love Rhodey’s character arc in it. Will probably end up getting this eventually.
Amazing review as always. I also had that soft spot for WCA, down to earth heroes was something new to me, and all the drama and infighting was like "eh, that's the team that would draft me".
Nice set. I kind of wish we could get more bendy stuff when it comes to tails and such. Really nice what they did with that new Animated Doc Ock, and that Scorpion. I'd be tempted to try making my own, but I haven't found any good info on the best way to go about doing that.
X-Men were my obsession but West Coast Avengers and Defenders were hot on their heels. I loved the weirdness and soap opera levels of drama with those teams. I got this box set and keep going back to Tigra and Mockingbird for some reason. Solid review as always 👍🏻
I feel like I could have gotten it better, especially matching the lighting, but I ran out of time. Still though, made myself laugh, and that's most of the battle, haha.
I've always wondered, does your brother still enjoy this kind of stuff? Do any of your other family members enjoy your collecting, or is it a "That's just Robo being Robo" mindset? Hopefully this isn't too personal of a question...
My brother collects Spider-Man comics and any variants of the McFarlane Spidey #300 cover, no matter the character. Then he does Masters of the Universe figures. Origins, the mini build ones that I just forgot the name of, and then some Masterverse here and there. We come by it natural though, my mom collects porcelain figures and goes through cycles for kitchen decoration. Trucks, roosters, apples.
re: Mockingbird's sleeves I know a lot of people hate soft goods on action figures, but I think that's the way to go here. Have the forearms detachable at the elbow with some conical sleeves that slot over a peg. It would hang a lot better than plastic in various poses, especially if a wire was sewn into it. Matching the plastic color could be difficult though.
Hank just got stuck shrinking down from Giant Man. He's a little embarrassed about it, and would thank you not to bring it up again. 😏 Also, did you call Wonder Man "Power Man"? For shame, Robo! For shame!
It’s a good set. Much better if it costs $20-30 cheaper. Spider Woman’s eyes look off. I had a blast posing Monica Rambeau. I think they could have given Bobbi bigger sleeves. The sleeves built into a bicep swivel and elbow swivel could work. I’m happy with this Bobbi.
In the UK at the time of writing, this pack is £65. Bought it for tigra, mocking bird and spiderwoman. My phone kept changing it sliderwoman, whose super power is tiny burgers.
I liked you showing all the West Coast Figures so far. The only difference I might do is change out the classic Vision for the White Vision simply because his first appearance was in WCA at the end of VisionQuest. And I associate that version of the Vision with the WCA.
1:52 Hank's render has the upper boot parts on the other legs and look more natural. You can see the sculpted dimples change locations between the render and the figure.
I'd like this set. I really want Mockingbird, maybe Tigra too. This might be a wait for a $50-ish sale. Didn't that Spider-Man set drop that low recently?
The Razorback set? I saw on one of the Fb pages someone reported it went cheap, but by the time anyone else really saw the post, it jumped back up like $10-15 again. Still a lower price, but not many wanted to spend that much.
FANTASTIC set if you didn't buy the original versions of these figures, but still a nice set of small (but noticeable) upgrades and 2 much-needed figures for the collection. I'm not sure I'm ready to pick this up at full price, but I also don't think it's necessarily overpriced the way I felt about the Spider-Man D-listers set
Who makes a head/neck like that!? What a bass-akward way to do a double ball peg. Maybe someone flipped a model piece and no one noticed until it was too late?
I'm a huge West Coast Avengers fan, but I was waiting for this review before making a purchase. Thanks Fwoosh! Great vid. I don't like the Spider Woman head at all. The bad-milliput-sculpt hair and the eyes specifically. I do like Pym other than the QC issues and as you pointed out, too large/tall. Which is unfortunate. I agree this Tigra's color is an improvement. I wish the previous Tigra was this color as I prefer her head sculpt. Personal preference. This one is fine. Silver Centurion Iron-man is not silver. Not a fan. A much more classic Bobbi! Finally!
Yeah. I picked up Rock & Roll, something about the card art bugged me. Then I realized it was Michael Cudlitz’s face. I sent him a shot of the art on tweeter, but he didn’t reply/like, so I don’t know if he saw it?
Hey i like Tigra's HUGE container abdomen, I can hide notes for ppl to find, like a time capsule.. I have the silver.. silver centurian and and garfield orange tigra.. but the Tigra upgrade is the only reason i'm waiting for this set to go down to 90$ before buying.. like alpha flight and the ppl who have met wolverine pack did.
They are probably in the West Coast beach house; thus, the wind in the hair…. 😂😂😂. Mockingbird looks good until you pointed out the sleeves. But I prefer her old costume than the new one. That Hawkeye looks good.
Im watching this August 2024..& you've gotten your wish as far as Moon Knight..& even tho i already own the solid white version like yourself..i pre-ordered the Moon Knight with the gold accents..& im.assuming that you're going to do the same..btw im not sure.. but i guess this video came out before the release of the new US Agent.. I do think i saw him in this video... Scratch that..I just rewatched & saw US Agent in the background. 👑
I'm no authority on recognizing reuse, but after that close comparison of the Spider-Woman figures it looks to me like the same base body for the original Julia was reused for the Mockingbird.
Maybe a repaint for the white parta make the figure looks more like a good silver senturion, and if I remember theres the lady deathstrike parts that looks like the original arms desing of moking bird
Is the white on Iron Man accurate? Even comparing it to the old comics it's obvious the white in the armor wasn't meant to be white. All the metallic reflections drawn in the armor tell me it's supposed to be silver
I put white armor pics right beside it, mostly covers. And there's others that I didn't show. But I'm sure inside art and other sources will show it different.
🦖: You're right. Figures with heels are a b%tch to stand up, Robo... 💀💀 Meanwhile I'm eyeballin' my Marvel Legends Shiklah, that I'm messing with on my desk, she always falls flat on her face or her back... 👁️👁️💢 Very few times she actually stands perfectly. Sometimes when I talk so much crap, then she stands... 🤦🏻♀️
That new Spiderwoman makes the old one look like a fan custom. I dont know if legends does vehicles but a miniature of some avengers vehicles or weapons would have been cool. Similar to toon accuracy with Transformers, the argument always becomes, should it be the color it was or the color they were trying to portray. The color was white in the comics but it was trying to portray metal. Glad two version exist for those who want a preference. is that mockingbird pose for karate chop action or is it mimicking the Official handbook of the marvel universe drawing where their hands were in in like one neutral pose (unless they were wearing a cape)?
I don't think I've ever seen Fixer before but based on the image you used in the video I think you might be better off using a green Power Ranger for the base body. Those bodies have just enough wrinkles and "baggy-ness" to the costume based on that image plus the shape of the boots and gloves already match where the Pym body is way to baggy compared to the image and doesn't have the gloves or smooth boots and you've have to cover over all of the chest detail. For the head, what about one from Multiple Man?... EDIT: What about the Hydra goon for a base?... I knew there was a figure I'd seen that was close to that but was drawing a huge blank...
Bwhah, wife passed me coffee right at yer intro, she shook her as I smiled. Mix bag on this set. Damn, missed an opportunity to fix Iron Man. A light blue lightly applied blue would help the bright white. But still gonna pick this up thanks to yer review
Seems as though it’s now common practice to give us the version we really want after we get the messed up on i.e. Tigra to squeeze our pockets ? But I won’t buy this pack since I wasn’t a big avengers fan either
That Hank Pym looks like he's about ready to change the oil on my car.
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I adore whenever the Universe decides to mock Robo when it comes to figures being able to stand without big issues! It's always funny stuff!
Hank Pym pulls things out and makes them grow. Giggity.
West Coast Avengers was a great title, and I loved the heroes that were members of it. WCA is where I developed my fondness for Dr. Pym
I know the art on the box is heavily altered from its inspiration cover, but it struck me as funny just how much they changed Mockingbird's appearance, just to match the figure in the set.
And yet it's still wrong, they forgot the sleeves 😂
Mockingbird’s costume was a change she made 1 year into the comic’s run, even calling it ‘86 Mockingbird’
"oh, that is TOUGH to get up"... There's always risk of side effects when you start messin around with Pym Particles!
A solid set, that I'll hope to catch on clearance.
Something I wonder about Silver Centurion is how it would look with taking a light-blue wash over the white bits. I know he looked white in the comics, but he also always had a light blue shading to give it a shiny, metal look and I think that's lost here. He doesn't look quite right to me with just white, marble plastic.
Immediate thumbs up for the opening Mockingbird segment!
Great review! Love the upgrades to Tigra and Spider-Woman. Really hoping for the long pants version of Mockingbird with a smaller mask. That's the look that I grew up with.
Hasbro should’ve just used the lady deathstrike arms for mocking bird, they hang lower and puff out more. Could be a quick kitbash and repaint for a play day 🤔
GI JOE Classified's Tripwire should be able to help with your Fixer custom some, no?
@07:00. Hanks mold works for Savageland Xavier….. or days of future past x-men
20:45 "Power Man"
Hats off to you for not seeing race, Robo.
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I like the Pym head a lot. It looks good on the Walgreens Sentry and on the new Starlord body for a Flash Gordon vibe.
Or he can be steve rogers
I need that Hank Pym to make a Ghostbusters team in ML form!
17:57 classic Robo being trolled by his action figures 😂
I like my underdogs, and to me the West Coast Avengers always felt like the underdog losers. Which is probably why I like them more unless it's some grandiose Avengers story being told.
This set seems like a mixed bag. Tigra seems like a straight-up improvement with the more subdued orange. I prefer the head on the old Spider-Woman (the eyes on the new one look weird, and the hair a bit lifeless), but everything else on the new one. It took us way too long to get double-jointed elbows, and I'm still annoyed whenever they go with the old ones. Looking at you, Mockingbird! The sleeves don't look great, so they could at least be more functional. And you're completely right to focus on that Silver Centurion head articulation. You'd think a company that has given us 3000 Iron Man figures wouldn't mess that up.
I've gotten big back into Legends recently thanks to the new Bucky Cap and Black Widow, so I may wait or this set to go on sale, but I wouldn't be too sad to miss out on it. I can live with the old Spider-Woman and Tigra, and the others I can live without (or expect a better version of later in the case of Mockingbird).
WCA wasn't my bag. But I dig the one-and-done nature of this set. A smattering of reuse with some upgrades and tweaks. Not perfect but good for what you need it to be - a comprise, if you will. I hope the ML team does more like sets like this in the future. A Champions or Defenders box set like this could work. Or the Slingers.
That dumb & dumber intro was truly inspired - hilarious!
Ive been in love with the idea of Hawkingbird and want a figure of her. A mad maid of honor with a cool, sign me up.
Love West Coast Avengers, mainly because I’m on the West Coast lol. But I love Rhodey’s character arc in it. Will probably end up getting this eventually.
I’ve never read west coast avengers but this pack looked nice so I picked it anyway. I’m also checking out some WCA comics, now. 😅
Always loved WCA. Hope Great Lakes Avengers come along at some point!
Amazing review as always. I also had that soft spot for WCA, down to earth heroes was something new to me, and all the drama and infighting was like "eh, that's the team that would draft me".
Nice set. I kind of wish we could get more bendy stuff when it comes to tails and such. Really nice what they did with that new Animated Doc Ock, and that Scorpion. I'd be tempted to try making my own, but I haven't found any good info on the best way to go about doing that.
Oh hey! That hair on Spider-Woman would work great on the classic Sue Storm!
Power Man?! You're slipping, that's Wonder Man!
X-Men were my obsession but West Coast Avengers and Defenders were hot on their heels. I loved the weirdness and soap opera levels of drama with those teams. I got this box set and keep going back to Tigra and Mockingbird for some reason. Solid review as always 👍🏻
Yo robo that rotoscoping for mockingbird was pretty good!
I feel like I could have gotten it better, especially matching the lighting, but I ran out of time. Still though, made myself laugh, and that's most of the battle, haha.
@@TheFwoosh I was both amused and caught off guard by how my brain didn’t even flinch at how seamless the editing is! Bravo sir🔥
Is that a Bloodywood shirt I see? Damn good taste in music you got there, Robo.
I think Mockingbird is the clear star of this set
Not a fan of the hair-in-the-wind effect. But I still want this pack.
Seeing that scratch appear on Julia mid articulation segment hurt deeply, too relatable
Make that Fixer, Robo!
It's on the list!
Spider-Woman has such big doofy eyes on the new figure, I wish they were spaced apart a little bit. I can't stop staring at it. haha
She must hang out with the new Ben Reilly Spider-Man.
You may be able to do something with mockingbird's sleeves with lady deathstike's.
Took me a little time to find the spelling but the game you were thinking of is Jai alai (hi lie) populsr in latin America.
I wonder what a Cletus head would look like on that Pym body, looks very prison uniformy
I've always wondered, does your brother still enjoy this kind of stuff? Do any of your other family members enjoy your collecting, or is it a "That's just Robo being Robo" mindset? Hopefully this isn't too personal of a question...
My brother collects Spider-Man comics and any variants of the McFarlane Spidey #300 cover, no matter the character. Then he does Masters of the Universe figures. Origins, the mini build ones that I just forgot the name of, and then some Masterverse here and there. We come by it natural though, my mom collects porcelain figures and goes through cycles for kitchen decoration. Trucks, roosters, apples.
Pym kinda looks like a 1:12 scale Jayce an The Wheeled Warriors toyline driver.
"I just like looking at new toys *robo noises*"
Don't we all love looking at new toys
Bloodywood is awesome! 🤘
This Is My Beloved West Coast Avengers 5 Pack
Jai Alai is the name of the Tron sport.
*Jai, like the Aussie actor Courtney. But not pronounced the same. (Hi vs Jay)
(Yeah, blame automation companies. 🧐🙄)
@@brainlock72 auto correct corrected thanks I used to live near a Jai Alia arena and saw a few games.
re: Mockingbird's sleeves
I know a lot of people hate soft goods on action figures, but I think that's the way to go here. Have the forearms detachable at the elbow with some conical sleeves that slot over a peg. It would hang a lot better than plastic in various poses, especially if a wire was sewn into it. Matching the plastic color could be difficult though.
Hank just got stuck shrinking down from Giant Man. He's a little embarrassed about it, and would thank you not to bring it up again. 😏
Also, did you call Wonder Man "Power Man"? For shame, Robo! For shame!
Damn it, I did didn't I. It never end, haha!
It’s a good set. Much better if it costs $20-30 cheaper. Spider Woman’s eyes look off. I had a blast posing Monica Rambeau. I think they could have given Bobbi bigger sleeves. The sleeves built into a bicep swivel and elbow swivel could work. I’m happy with this Bobbi.
In the UK at the time of writing, this pack is £65. Bought it for tigra, mocking bird and spiderwoman. My phone kept changing it sliderwoman, whose super power is tiny burgers.
Maybe Hank Pym is angry because he's been beating his wif-
Cool 😎 video Robo Fwoosh.
I liked you showing all the West Coast Figures so far. The only difference I might do is change out the classic Vision for the White Vision simply because his first appearance was in WCA at the end of VisionQuest. And I associate that version of the Vision with the WCA.
1:52 Hank's render has the upper boot parts on the other legs and look more natural. You can see the sculpted dimples change locations between the render and the figure.
That Silver Centurion Iron Manis the only one I ever wanted. Hate that head/neck combo.
Somebody needs to make a new head/neck combo for Iron Man.... but then we run into the Swirly red issue
I'd like this set. I really want Mockingbird, maybe Tigra too. This might be a wait for a $50-ish sale. Didn't that Spider-Man set drop that low recently?
The Razorback set? I saw on one of the Fb pages someone reported it went cheap, but by the time anyone else really saw the post, it jumped back up like $10-15 again. Still a lower price, but not many wanted to spend that much.
Yes is a awesome looking 5 pack 👍👍👍👍
FANTASTIC set if you didn't buy the original versions of these figures, but still a nice set of small (but noticeable) upgrades and 2 much-needed figures for the collection. I'm not sure I'm ready to pick this up at full price, but I also don't think it's necessarily overpriced the way I felt about the Spider-Man D-listers set
Haha, but even there I HAD to have the Spidey set for Razorback. But, that's just me.
Who makes a head/neck like that!? What a bass-akward way to do a double ball peg. Maybe someone flipped a model piece and no one noticed until it was too late?
The Quantunanina Kang needed shoulders designed like Iron Mans here.
I wish Pym had the pockets on his pants.
for sure someone made a head for that iron man
I'm a huge West Coast Avengers fan, but I was waiting for this review before making a purchase. Thanks Fwoosh! Great vid.
I don't like the Spider Woman head at all. The bad-milliput-sculpt hair and the eyes specifically.
I do like Pym other than the QC issues and as you pointed out, too large/tall. Which is unfortunate.
I agree this Tigra's color is an improvement. I wish the previous Tigra was this color as I prefer her head sculpt. Personal preference. This one is fine.
Silver Centurion Iron-man is not silver. Not a fan.
A much more classic Bobbi! Finally!
love this hobby man
I surprised you didn't try the Hank Pym head on the new ant man body
Not a fan of Hank's outfit. I might try and figure out something else and use the head sculpt which looks good.
Pls review more classified series figures
Yeah. I picked up Rock & Roll, something about the card art bugged me. Then I realized it was Michael Cudlitz’s face. I sent him a shot of the art on tweeter, but he didn’t reply/like, so I don’t know if he saw it?
good reviews, brother. i may still get this set if it goes down in price.
Idk if it's just me, but does Spider-Woman's mask look uneven to anyone else with the eyes? It doesn't look symmetrical and it's messing with me lol
It does a bit, then the hair helps accentuate the error.
Her spider logo is also asymmetrical to her torso...
The sport ur thinking of is lacrosse lmao that was my main sport most of my life
Hey i like Tigra's HUGE container abdomen, I can hide notes for ppl to find, like a time capsule.. I have the silver.. silver centurian and and garfield orange tigra.. but the Tigra upgrade is the only reason i'm waiting for this set to go down to 90$ before buying.. like alpha flight and the ppl who have met wolverine pack did.
I am not gonna lie 25% of why I watch these is for the "forward facing pin for rocker" a figure has been reviewed until I've heard him say that. lol
My brother and I did the same thing with comic books.
They are probably in the West Coast beach house; thus, the wind in the hair…. 😂😂😂. Mockingbird looks good until you pointed out the sleeves. But I prefer her old costume than the new one. That Hawkeye looks good.
Bet they release Mockingbird on a retro card with Lady Deathstrike sleeves and long pants.
That Spider-Woman was completely full of paint flaws! Seems that’s the way of the future with Hasbro! Eyes, chest…ugh!
Looked like some paint crackle on her left thigh in video? 🧐
the old one looks way better imho, articulation is the only thing new one ia better.
Im watching this August 2024..& you've gotten your wish as far as Moon Knight..& even tho i already own the solid white version like yourself..i pre-ordered the Moon Knight with the gold accents..& im.assuming that you're going to do the same..btw im not sure.. but i guess this video came out before the release of the new US Agent.. I do think i saw him in this video...
Scratch that..I just rewatched & saw US Agent in the background.
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I love how he said the old tigra was flamin hot and the new one was regular cheeto
Would that Pym head fit on Egghead's body?
That Tygra face looks like Ayoola Smart.
What about using a Vault Guardian figure for a Fixer custom? The whole body is a metallic green in a couple of shades.
Doctor pym figure should be include rover, should probably be a two pack with firebird
That Julia is on the Shriek body Robo. Every pinless female moving forward is on the Shriek body except they may swap out the chest. Come on Robo!
I'm no authority on recognizing reuse, but after that close comparison of the Spider-Woman figures it looks to me like the same base body for the original Julia was reused for the Mockingbird.
Maybe a repaint for the white parta make the figure looks more like a good silver senturion, and if I remember theres the lady deathstrike parts that looks like the original arms desing of moking bird
Love your vids man you were always my favorite toy reviewer
Mocking birds buck is the Monica rambeau captain marvel buck from the secret wars 2 pack
I want this thing so bad!!!!
Do you ever think you’re going to get the comic hulk, and Bruce Banner 2Pac?
Is the white on Iron Man accurate? Even comparing it to the old comics it's obvious the white in the armor wasn't meant to be white. All the metallic reflections drawn in the armor tell me it's supposed to be silver
I put white armor pics right beside it, mostly covers. And there's others that I didn't show. But I'm sure inside art and other sources will show it different.
🦖: You're right. Figures with heels are a b%tch to stand up, Robo... 💀💀 Meanwhile I'm eyeballin' my Marvel Legends Shiklah, that I'm messing with on my desk, she always falls flat on her face or her back... 👁️👁️💢 Very few times she actually stands perfectly. Sometimes when I talk so much crap, then she stands... 🤦🏻♀️
That new Spiderwoman makes the old one look like a fan custom. I dont know if legends does vehicles but a miniature of some avengers vehicles or weapons would have been cool.
Similar to toon accuracy with Transformers, the argument always becomes, should it be the color it was or the color they were trying to portray. The color was white in the comics but it was trying to portray metal. Glad two version exist for those who want a preference.
is that mockingbird pose for karate chop action or is it mimicking the Official handbook of the marvel universe drawing where their hands were in in like one neutral pose (unless they were wearing a cape)?
Hey Robo, would Molecule Man work well for a base to your custom?
You could use Pym as a mutant from Days of future past. Like for Franklin Richards.
I don't think I've ever seen Fixer before but based on the image you used in the video I think you might be better off using a green Power Ranger for the base body. Those bodies have just enough wrinkles and "baggy-ness" to the costume based on that image plus the shape of the boots and gloves already match where the Pym body is way to baggy compared to the image and doesn't have the gloves or smooth boots and you've have to cover over all of the chest detail. For the head, what about one from Multiple Man?...
EDIT: What about the Hydra goon for a base?... I knew there was a figure I'd seen that was close to that but was drawing a huge blank...
Bwhah, wife passed me coffee right at yer intro, she shook her as I smiled. Mix bag on this set. Damn, missed an opportunity to fix Iron Man. A light blue lightly applied blue would help the bright white. But still gonna pick this up thanks to yer review
Funniest intro ever😂
I’ve been noticing some qc issues with characters being paired with two left or right forearms. Mainly with skrull soldiers and d’spayre.
Does that Hank Pym head fit on the new Antman body?
Seems as though it’s now common practice to give us the version we really want after we get the messed up on i.e. Tigra to squeeze our pockets ? But I won’t buy this pack since I wasn’t a big avengers fan either
maybe try the Agatha Harkness upper arms for Mockingbird?