I was on that flight. It was absolutely terrifying. My friends and I, til this day will never forget it. We were young and now almost in our 40s. We had to jump 50 ft off the back of the plane. I actually was pushed off . It was an awful day
The FO made a mistake.. But the CA caused the accident. Who rotates and then tries to abort. The situation was not dire. Either abort when they got the warning and when the airspeed was low...or commit for a takeoff setting thrust to max and using a good guess for the rotation speed... About 150 kts should be plenty.
I worked as a flight instructor and charter pilot for approximately three years. I accumulated a bit over 2,500 hours. The most sophisticated airplane(s) that I flew were light twins. They did not have much in the way of computer assists. I sometimes wonder if we have not over engineered today's airplanes to the extent that pilots become too dependent on the computers. BTW, some of my best students were women. Several of them went on to fly for the airlines. And some of the worst were men. After three years, I had enough, and I went back to being a CPA.
I am at a loss to understand why the Capt did not set Max Thrust when they got the ECAM. My company trained us for this exact scenario, perhaps as a result of this crash. Auto-throttles are great right up until when they're not. Fly the jet first, play with the fancy stuff second. Max thrust and 12-18 degrees of initial pitch works in just about every jet once you're doing 120-130 or so. When in doubt, (like not having your V speeds displayed) apply max thrust and use every inch of runway. The plane would have flown just fine.
When it started hollering "RETARD", what do you do? I, myself, a ex-crop duster, never had the luxury of all the bells and sounds to alert me and pull my arm out of my ass. That noise would have made me abort, and stop the plane. I would rather be called other names for aborting, than a reckless commercial pilot. He checked the copilot for the wrong runway information. Right then and there, you automatically check to see if she went to sleep and check for more, redo the list, and sit longer if necessary. What did she say? Oh shit, I'm sorry, way too late for that. I am a crop duster pilot, nothing big and fancy, cheap as can be. But one thing crop dusters know is the word "speed, and power", the throttle. So I actually thought all pilots use this formula "speed/thrust/power". Looks like commercial pilots, just go by instruments, paper, computer settings, and the advice/instructions of another. When your hands are on the yoke, hands on the throttle, thrust levers, and barreling down the runway, everything from there on out is all about you and your responsibility. Speed, power thrust is all in your hands, therefore you can abort, or immediately correct to the right speed, but I, myself, would have aborted. Too much fixing of what the copilot messed up on, yep too much fixing. So when it's all over and done with, he was the bad guy.
Unfortunately, Take off or landing accidents do escalate quickly. Things are happening, very fast and the flight envelope at that point is quite small.
As soon as I saw that the flight had a female pilot, I guess right away that at the very least, her screwing up would factor into the accident if not the only factor. I don't think I've come across a single accident case that had a female cockpit crew member where she was not a major factor in the accident.
What a moronic thing to say. Tell me, over the last 75 years how many accidents have there been with all male crews? I'm going to guess its well over 99 percent of them. If you were to ask me, I'd say that HIS screw ups were even more egregious than hers.
@@lbowskseeing how only until recent years all airline pilots were male, and even now only 4% are female, you're probably correct about the majority of crashes the pilots were male! Recent studies state that female pilots are more likely to cause a crash over males though.
It’s incredible how easy it is for things to go wrong. People have no idea. If I have two light switches in my house, side by side, I usually turn the wrong one on, from the one I intended to, about 50% of the time. It’s unfathomable all the things pilots have to do correctly, in order to have a safe flight.
Absolutely agree. We are two years in our new house and I am still pressing the wrong switches where there are two together. There needs to be a video on just how many fiddly procedures there are in the modern cockpit. I suppose it’s a credit to pilots that the wrong info is not constantly being input. Finally don’t pilots of major airlines normally retire at 60? Two 60+ flying is maybe not a good idea and I say that as a 63 year old!
Airbus…. That’s the issue.. both pilots pushing forward on the sticks. Tactile feel of the throttles is paramount to know the engines performance WITHOUT having to move your eyes inside the cockpit while taking off. The coverup of this crash is monumental…..
@@BestEachDayNot anymore cause that was yesterday and whats happening now is due to Boeing being run by the bean counters whose attitude is the bigger the profit makes us look good to the outside world, oh ye is that so, well profits don't necessarily mean a aircraft is safe for purpose aye hee hee hee?
I was on that flight. It was absolutely terrifying.
My friends and I, til this day will never forget it. We were young and now almost in our 40s. We had to jump 50 ft off the back of the plane. I actually was pushed off . It was an awful day
When I saw the picture of that slide I thought they couldn't have actually used it.
I’m sorry, I don’t care, I’m not going off that back slide unless there’s smoke.
Excellent video.
The pilots were absolutely reckless.
I was planning not to react, because i was stunningly shocked,
You said the one word that describes the situation completely.
No FMC Preflight, no checklists, no cross checks. Id bust the Capt to FO. Inexcusable
The computer was referring to the copilot.
😂
the planes computer was giving them a hint over and over again Geez
The FO made a mistake.. But the CA caused the accident. Who rotates and then tries to abort. The situation was not dire. Either abort when they got the warning and when the airspeed was low...or commit for a takeoff setting thrust to max and using a good guess for the rotation speed... About 150 kts should be plenty.
This is why I hate take-off computers to begin with. It's basically a way of playing electronic chicken, and puts lives at risk to save some fuel.
I worked as a flight instructor and charter pilot for approximately three years. I accumulated a bit over 2,500 hours.
The most sophisticated airplane(s) that I flew were light twins. They did not have much in the way of computer assists. I sometimes wonder if we have not over engineered today's airplanes to the extent that pilots become too dependent on the computers.
BTW, some of my best students were women. Several of them went on to fly for the airlines. And some of the worst were men. After three years, I had enough, and I went back to being a CPA.
I am at a loss to understand why the Capt did not set Max Thrust when they got the ECAM. My company trained us for this exact scenario, perhaps as a result of this crash. Auto-throttles are great right up until when they're not. Fly the jet first, play with the fancy stuff second. Max thrust and 12-18 degrees of initial pitch works in just about every jet once you're doing 120-130 or so. When in doubt, (like not having your V speeds displayed) apply max thrust and use every inch of runway. The plane would have flown just fine.
Staggering to consider something like this occurring with almost 37 000 hours of experience in the cockpit.
When it started hollering "RETARD", what do you do? I, myself, a ex-crop duster, never had the luxury of all the bells and sounds to alert me and pull my arm out of my ass. That noise would have made me abort, and stop the plane. I would rather be called other names for aborting, than a reckless commercial pilot. He checked the copilot for the wrong runway information. Right then and there, you automatically check to see if she went to sleep and check for more, redo the list, and sit longer if necessary. What did she say? Oh shit, I'm sorry, way too late for that. I am a crop duster pilot, nothing big and fancy, cheap as can be. But one thing crop dusters know is the word "speed, and power", the throttle. So I actually thought all pilots use this formula "speed/thrust/power". Looks like commercial pilots, just go by instruments, paper, computer settings, and the advice/instructions of another. When your hands are on the yoke, hands on the throttle, thrust levers, and barreling down the runway, everything from there on out is all about you and your responsibility. Speed, power thrust is all in your hands, therefore you can abort, or immediately correct to the right speed, but I, myself, would have aborted. Too much fixing of what the copilot messed up on, yep too much fixing. So when it's all over and done with, he was the bad guy.
Sad....what a beautiful plane. Thank God everyone was safe
What is "FLEX" Power?
She f***Ed up twice, he's solely at fault. Yeah. Checks out.
You need to state what happened to both pilots !!! It was their fault !!!
Did they get fired, suspended, reprimanded, what ???
Hopefully forced to retire. Both were in their sixties.
Wow that escalated quickly... Nice vid and also could u do Aerocaribbean 883? Thanks again from Ireland! ❤
Thank you too! Yeah I'll upload flight 883 within the next few weeks
Unfortunately, Take off or landing accidents do escalate quickly. Things are happening, very fast and the flight envelope at that point is quite small.
@@malcolmwhite6588yeah
As soon as I saw that the flight had a female pilot, I guess right away that at the very least, her screwing up would factor into the accident if not the only factor. I don't think I've come across a single accident case that had a female cockpit crew member where she was not a major factor in the accident.
What a moronic thing to say. Tell me, over the last 75 years how many accidents have there been with all male crews? I'm going to guess its well over 99 percent of them. If you were to ask me, I'd say that HIS screw ups were even more egregious than hers.
Who are you blaming for AF447? AirAsia8501? AdamAir574? Not to mention the Tenerife mass casuality? Only dudes there my friend, only dudes.
@@lbowskseeing how only until recent years all airline pilots were male, and even now only 4% are female, you're probably correct about the majority of crashes the pilots were male! Recent studies state that female pilots are more likely to cause a crash over males though.
Look at that rear slide! I’m not going down that, unless there’s smoke in the cabin.
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That is why computers should fly planes. What a shame.
I notice the female co pilot who screwed the pooch isn't mentioned in the report. The capt got his butt handed to him. Who could have predicted that??
See my post above. She made a mistake but he caused the accident.
It wasn’t like either , the pilot went up in the air twice
Keep up the good work 👍 pretty accurate
Thanks!
Not accurate at all actually
Only thing accurate was how badly the pilots messed up and almost could have killed 149 people .
@@marjoriecastaldi-tv7lt indeed
6:00 Ryanair best landing🗿
It’s incredible how easy it is for things to go wrong. People have no idea. If I have two light switches in my house, side by side, I usually turn the wrong one on, from the one I intended to, about 50% of the time. It’s unfathomable all the things pilots have to do correctly, in order to have a safe flight.
Absolutely agree. We are two years in our new house and I am still pressing the wrong switches where there are two together. There needs to be a video on just how many fiddly procedures there are in the modern cockpit. I suppose it’s a credit to pilots that the wrong info is not constantly being input. Finally don’t pilots of major airlines normally retire at 60? Two 60+ flying is maybe not a good idea and I say that as a 63 year old!
Takeoff with reduced power, does make sense to anyone, not to me.
MOST takeoffs are performed using reduced thrust.
USScareways.
Incompetent pilots!
Airbus…. That’s the issue.. both pilots pushing forward on the sticks. Tactile feel of the throttles is paramount to know the engines performance WITHOUT having to move your eyes inside the cockpit while taking off. The coverup of this crash is monumental…..
What!! Utter rubbish. Pilot error. Rushed and not cross checked.
Can’t blame Airbus and joysticks for pilot error. And highly experienced pilots at that, should have retired already.
Overconfident pilots more than veterans...
el retard era la computadora quejándose de los pilotos :-b (un poco de humor)
😅
Computer was rude, calling them names!
Would still rather fly Airbus than Boeing.
You need those wide seats for portly passengers?
I understand. But far more Boeing aircraft still fly many, many years safely than end up in incidents.
@@BestEachDayNot anymore cause that was yesterday and whats happening now is due to Boeing being run by the bean counters whose attitude is the bigger the profit makes us look good to the outside world, oh ye is that so, well profits don't necessarily mean a aircraft is safe for purpose aye hee hee hee?
In the days of the sailing ships, sailors thought the ship is cursed if women were on board.
Seems the old sailors were right.
Rude plane. Very French.
Hey! You found out!
Lady copilot....
Another cheap animation thx 🙄🙄🙄
Another bitter comment from a YT clod.
why dont you have a go if you think you can do better
dumb
N113UW! I worked on this plane ✈️