Windows 11 For Not-New Computers: TPM Compatibility Guide

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  • @ThioJoe
    @ThioJoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1942

    Shoutout to microsoft for literally changing the requirements even further while I was editing

    • @Jacob9335wastaken
      @Jacob9335wastaken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Lol

    • @EyeOfThe_God
      @EyeOfThe_God 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Yes tpm is shit feature in 11

    • @brokeandtired
      @brokeandtired 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      I will just run Win 10 till PC dies....MS just f***ed themselves.

    • @brokeandtired
      @brokeandtired 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I have a 10th gen Intel that's now obsolecent

    • @bx19tgd
      @bx19tgd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      trolled

  • @donaldclark5804
    @donaldclark5804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +638

    Bruh we're in the middle of a chip shortage and windows is like get a new cpu

    • @mrtuk4282
      @mrtuk4282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And Linux of course :)

    • @ThaTruFily
      @ThaTruFily 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Elitists no doubt :/

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@mrtuk4282
      You mean to say "or Linux". We can stop making a lot of ewaste just by giving people with old computers bootable USBs with Linux on them. For most people, a computer that is a decade or so old running Linux does what they need a computer to do.

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Get a new Motherboard and CPU. LOL

    • @kkppelot6270
      @kkppelot6270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @ not all people can get a new motherboard and cpu LOL

  • @Noschool100
    @Noschool100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +553

    I'm surprised they even made that a requirement, they were offering windows 10 for 32 bit like a decade after that was obsolete.

    • @antishulk
      @antishulk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      same. windows 10 on minimum hardware is way to low tbh it would basically be torture now windows 11 has way higher and my computer which can run most modern games fine cant even run windows 11 from what i understand.

    • @namadiakoko8429
      @namadiakoko8429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Leii OPERATING SYSTEM SOFT WARR BEGIN

    • @xXmlgamingXx355
      @xXmlgamingXx355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@antishulk this actually gives me higher hopes for windows 11. If its requirements are so high, it must be really good.

    • @NeonzGamingYT
      @NeonzGamingYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@antishulk btw im try running win 10 lite on low end spec and its running very good like windows 7

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@antishulk honestly speaking
      i understand they should have supported it but now its time to upgrade also
      a macOS also needs very high specs to run properly and if they gave update and it does not run then they will get abuses like cd projekt red got

  • @weepgamer
    @weepgamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    My weak laptop is supported but my powerful desktop is not
    Thanks MS!

    • @Katzelle3
      @Katzelle3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What is your processor

    • @AK-tf3fc
      @AK-tf3fc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Mine too. My i7 7th gen can't be upgraded while my i3 8th gen laptop can.

    • @weepgamer
      @weepgamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Katzelle3 8th gen i5 + integrated in laptop, 4th gen i5 + 1050ti in desktop

    • @KaMo1177
      @KaMo1177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My powerful laptop isn't supported. I got your luck in the worst way :D 1050TI + i5 7th Gen. LOL

    • @warehousetechtips
      @warehousetechtips 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      amd ryzen 5 4500u supports while ryzen 7 does not what the heck. good that i use ryzen 5 4500u

  • @witcher3videogame854
    @witcher3videogame854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +544

    The idea of being a laptop from 2015 being too old, is just crazy.

    • @oksowhat
      @oksowhat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      haha, my lappy is from 2011

    • @arnoldboyco8711
      @arnoldboyco8711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The steps necessary to remove the "Secure Boot" and "TPM 2.0" requirements error when attempting to install Windows 11 Consumer Preview
      1. Obtain the newest available Windows 10 ISO from Micro$0ft;
      2. Already have made your Windows 11 USB Installer using Rufus;
      3. Mount Windows 10 ISO;
      4. Find and locate the folder named Sources on the mounted ISO;
      5. Copy all of the files in the Sources folder of the mounted ISO except for install.wim/install.esd;
      6. Navigate to the Windows 11 bootable USB Installer that you have previously created in your File
      Manager;
      7. Open the Sources folder on the Windows 11 bootable USB Installer;
      8. Paste the previously copied contents/files from the Sources folder on the mounted Win 10 ISO to the Sources folder of the Windows 11 bootable USB Installer, and make sure to replace the files present in the Windows 11 USB Installer Sources folder;
      9. Boot from Windows 11 USB Installer;
      10. Profit from not having the requirements of Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 being enabled in place.

    • @torcheddreadnought899
      @torcheddreadnought899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@arnoldboyco8711 is it really that easy? I haven't messed with it yet.

    • @webcomment8895
      @webcomment8895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You have until 2025 to upgrade. It will definitely be very old in 2025. Nobody has to upgrade this year.

    • @bluephantom786
      @bluephantom786 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nicole Watterson what is the model?

  • @_SJ
    @_SJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    People: Watching ThioJoe talking
    Me: Staring at the beautiful LED lights setup behind him

    • @SunIsLost
      @SunIsLost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol

    • @ronaldmango6836
      @ronaldmango6836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gaming setup

    • @belovedtruth3447
      @belovedtruth3447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ronaldmango6836 it don't necessarily have to be that, you can just buy some LED lights on Ebay and fit em all around your room and voila!

    • @ronaldmango6836
      @ronaldmango6836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@belovedtruth3447 Also makes sense.

  • @nayan9672
    @nayan9672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +534

    So this is what nadella meant by saying new economic opportunities for manufacturers

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      lol

    • @trolldrums4u
      @trolldrums4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      during win10 launch they said only particular cpu can only run 10, then they changed it

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nayan9672 will removing rpm requirement enable to run the win11 smoothly

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nayan9672 hmm then I guess they should remove it
      I spent 120 dollars for windows 10 upgrade actually
      They charge hefty amount for it

    • @trolldrums4u
      @trolldrums4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      bro we can do it my enter some file i wil link you,

  • @kromanoidx
    @kromanoidx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Microsoft: Upgrade your PC
    Current Objective: Survive

  • @FrancGorenc
    @FrancGorenc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    The next major version of Windows (12) would probably require a quantum computer because regular bits just won't do.

    • @mh7a135
      @mh7a135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Windows 12 will require NASA super computer, lol.

    • @namesurname4666
      @namesurname4666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      windows 12 only available on surface just like android betas

    • @belovedtruth3447
      @belovedtruth3447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@mh7a135 I hear NASA uses computers with Pentium 4 processors and 2gb Ram and Intel integrated graphics card!

    • @txe1nd
      @txe1nd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@belovedtruth3447 lol

    • @redghost433
      @redghost433 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s the Windows 12r2 feature.

  • @baherkamalmusic
    @baherkamalmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    People: My PC can't run Windows 11.
    Meanwhile me: My PC can't run the PC health check app.

    • @cyberp0et
      @cyberp0et 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Your PC will perfectly run Linux.

    • @iamb0
      @iamb0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      same i have windows 8.1 lmaoo

    • @baherkamalmusic
      @baherkamalmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Levente Kolcsar I can't even install it.

    • @leDespicable
      @leDespicable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It ran on my PC once, when I tried to start it again it said something about installing an update, and after the progress bar finished it just closed itself and that was that...

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cyberp0et ... and depending on the distro go much faster. Some versions of linux are "spooky fast"

  • @Ganerrr
    @Ganerrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +836

    yea no, either someone mods this out or im not switching, only reason i would switch to 11 is for rumored speed increases

    • @loksi.
      @loksi. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      yeah same

    • @BackwardSabotage
      @BackwardSabotage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +201

      This is too much extra requirements for something that's basically a windows 10 reskin right now.

    • @Ganerrr
      @Ganerrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@BackwardSabotage exactly

    • @iver1343
      @iver1343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      tell me a reason why you wouldn't switch if you could.

    • @CynderPCTech
      @CynderPCTech 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BackwardSabotage oooo a marty robbins fan

  • @SpartanWolf222
    @SpartanWolf222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    This sounds like a whole lot of confusion meant to scare customers into, at worst, not adopting Windows 11 or, at best, force them to buy a new computer just to meet the requirements.

    • @robertrudick2492
      @robertrudick2492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely! I agree with ur consensus. One big Ball of Confusion that's what Microsoft is causing the technology field.

    • @MetalTrabant
      @MetalTrabant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're partners with a lot of hardware manufacturers, of course they're gonna do shady deals like this to spin up hardware sales... they're M$ afterall.
      This was probably the main reason they changed from the rolling release of Win 10 to actually releasing a new version. You can't sell the same thing for decades in capitalism...

    • @ms4kchannel416
      @ms4kchannel416 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      now every one wants to use windows 11 hahahahaaaaaa people are killing themselves just to get windows 11 especially me i use my whole night on how to install windows 11

    • @gruv2nz
      @gruv2nz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, I think they want people to buy new computers.

    • @missmyredwolf
      @missmyredwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I also like how they "cushion" the pain and say......" Don't worry, we have your WINS 10 back until 2025. " SO WHAT.

  • @Tim.Stotelmeyer
    @Tim.Stotelmeyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    Sounds like computer manufactures might behind Microsoft breaking their "Windows 10 will be the last OS" stance. They needed a way to force people to buy new computers and Microsoft obliged with the TPM requirement. If you want Windows 11 then you need to buy a new computer.

    • @Valcuda
      @Valcuda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Windows 10 was never meant to ve the final Windows.
      From the start, we knew it was gonna be discontinued in 2025. There's only one instance of Microsoft 'saying' it would be the last, even then tho, they never directly said it.
      The news reported it being the last version of Windows cause that's gonna get more clicks then "Windows 10 has been released"

    • @kornkernel2232
      @kornkernel2232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Valcuda Yeah, and also "Windows as a service" still applies now. If the hardware is compatible, people using Windows 10 can simply get upgrade for free to Windows 11, through Windows Updates. As if its just another big feature update, but with different marketing name. We technically get new version of Windows during Windows 10 era, Microsoft just never called with a different version of Windows but just another "Update".

    • @Matt_328
      @Matt_328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I'm not going to buy a new PC just for a new Win10 skin.

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Matt_328 how old is ur pc

    • @Matt_328
      @Matt_328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Subhrajyoti not that old, it runs win10 perfecly so yeah, if I can upgrade, cool, if I can't, that's cool too.

  • @mareksinister
    @mareksinister 3 ปีที่แล้ว +288

    If they actually go through TPM being a requirement and only supporting 8th gen or newer, they might as well call it Vista 2 and have it flop even worse than Vista originally did.

    • @Parth_Soni
      @Parth_Soni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      bruh, ran it on my core 2 duo. every thing is made up sh!t. just replace some windows 11 iso files with windows 10 iso files and voila windows 11 baby

    • @TrioLOLGamers
      @TrioLOLGamers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      It will flop if there will be this requirement: school PCs are old, lots of PCs in companies are 5+ older. So they will kill Windows 11.

    • @abhitour1
      @abhitour1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly what i was thinking

    • @just4playing46
      @just4playing46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@TrioLOLGamers there is no reason why companys and schools are updating to win11. They will just stick on win10 because their whole tech infrastructure is built on it.

    • @JM-dq7xn
      @JM-dq7xn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Linux ahoy

  • @Francois_L_7933
    @Francois_L_7933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    This is typical Microsoft. I find it a bit funny when I see that one of their Surface computers that sells right now for close to 4000$ is on the list of unsupported devices!

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It will still work fine...

    • @googlewolly
      @googlewolly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@pilotavery Not necessarily. If they force you to have TPM 2.0, for example, it won't let Windows 11 install without it. There is virtually always a workaround with respect to computers, but that's not the point.

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@googlewolly they've changed the requirements to TPM 1.2, which means just about every computer since 2005...

    • @googlewolly
      @googlewolly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@pilotavery Firstly, no, they didn't. They actually did the opposite and removed the "soft" requirement of 1.2. I just checked, and 2.0 is a requirement. Secondly, I used "not necessarily" because my main point was with reference to if 2.0 remains a requirement.

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@googlewolly 2.0 is a hard requirement, but it will work on 1.2.
      The thing people need to understand is when they get a list of processors, those are the list of processors that is guaranteed to work on it. Because they have TPM built in.
      Unsupported processors, like 5th gen intel, definitely still work, it's just they can't guarantee that you didn't buy the crappiest of motherboards or that you didn't get a cheap knockoff brand Chinese laptop that does not integrate any of these.
      I have a Dell from 2007 with a TPM chip, at that point Dell only included them on about 40% of their laptops and all of their low-end consumer just omitted it but they still have a connector on the laptop motherboard for it.
      In 2012, dell started putting them on all of their laptops and in 2013 HP did as well.
      It's pretty difficult to find a computer without it, and frankly, it doesn't deserve to run Windows, especially if the OS requires secure boot.
      Windows does not need to be backwards compatible forever. Windows XP did not run on a 16-bit processor and Windows 7 did not run on 128 megabytes of ram.
      If everybody complained that everyone made their computer obsolete by requiring Windows XP to have a 32-bit processor and not run on 16-bit, I would just laugh my ass off because of course it's going to require that, it's a new technology that's been around for long enough.
      TPM has been around since before 2008, and they've become pretty much ubiquitous since 2014. Even Android since Android 7, requires a TPM chip on every single phone. Even the crappiest of phones, are required to include a TPM chip in order to be certified for Google Play services. There are some exceptions, but those exceptions are in China that don't have access to Google Play store.

  • @rsinistic
    @rsinistic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You absolute gent !!! Running a ryzen 7 3700x and my board supports ftpm .Enabled it and now installing Windows 11 !! Saved me 50 quid ! Iwas literally about to purchase one

  • @MichaelOKeefe2009
    @MichaelOKeefe2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Man these requirements for Win11 is basically the Windows Vista fiasco all over again!

    • @rockzs74r
      @rockzs74r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's a common theme windows have the good bad good bad pattern.

    • @redghost433
      @redghost433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But wait til you see Windows 12

    • @Diegothefox-q6s
      @Diegothefox-q6s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ya this is getting stupid

    • @killermoon635
      @killermoon635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Windows Vista is not even bad OS. Never been. However, it was released too early and most people did not have powerful enough PC with enough RAM to run it well
      WIndows 7 came out 3 years later and it was just as demanding, but people have better PC and RAM when windows 7 came out. So thats why most people did not have performance issue with windows 7 unlike Vista

  • @baldarama
    @baldarama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Maybe someone will develop a boot loader that emulates tpm, if they were able to emulate Apple SMC for hackintosh they probably can emulate TPM

    • @Parth_Soni
      @Parth_Soni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      bruh I ran it my on core 2 duo e8400 , gt 730 runs like a charm

    • @joshuasantiago3526
      @joshuasantiago3526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Parth_Soni Damn Im tempted now

    • @cristianitsirc6830
      @cristianitsirc6830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @ཀཱ "what's your point?". You're a special kind, aren't you? :P

    • @apple_unlocking_services3004
      @apple_unlocking_services3004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      so with me playing with win 11
      it looks you need the TPM thing only to install the windows for the first time, lets say you have hard drive has full win 11 installed on it, once you install this drive on any computer without TPM support at all, as long it has UEFI mode, you should be fine & the win 11 will run just fine

    • @KMon1111IND
      @KMon1111IND 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Parth_Soni Ok noob you don't need to spam every comment.

  • @MarcuStar745XD
    @MarcuStar745XD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    > Old computer
    > 2015
    Jeez dude, next year we're gonna start calling 2020 old at this rate...

    • @raawesome3851
      @raawesome3851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's 5 years ago. That's decently old.
      That's when the 1000 series came out, I believe.

    • @MarcuStar745XD
      @MarcuStar745XD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@raawesome3851 personally I consider a product to be old when it reaches 10 years old, so 2015 still seems pretty close to me

    • @raawesome3851
      @raawesome3851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MarcuStar745XD by 10 years old, if you haven't upgraded, you're kind of stuck, unless you just want basic tasks done.

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MarcuStar745XD bro 10 years old is like grandfather
      i consider a product old when it is more than 5 years or 6 years old

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@0w3nn its minecraft
      run call of duty then say it

  • @JxH
    @JxH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Me watching this on my trusty old 2010 laptop.
    Update to add details for anyone interested: Lenovo T510 Thinkpad (2010) bought used in 2014 for about $300. Swapped in an SSD, as well as a BluRay drive to watch movies on disc (DVD & BluRay). Still running Win 7 Pro in the vain hope that Microsoft will eventually follow through with no more endless updates. I've been using it 8h/day for Work From Home since March 2020, and watching TH-cam in the evening. If it ever breaks, I'll buy another. Cheers.

    • @KaMo1177
      @KaMo1177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I myself had a 2007 laptop which I used in college with me, fully operational with Windows 7, up until 2 years ago. Good on you, taking such care of the laptop.

  • @MandolinSashaank
    @MandolinSashaank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    This really hurts. Just because of that ONE requirement my PC can't be upgraded. Smhhh

    • @venomgeorge3692
      @venomgeorge3692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      which processor you have(with gen)

    • @MandolinSashaank
      @MandolinSashaank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@venomgeorge3692 Mine is Intel Core i7 4790s basically a 4th Gen processor. Surprisingly my processor was not in the list of supported processors not just for Windows 11 but even for Windows 10, 8 and 7 on that website. But my PC runs Windows 10 21H1 smoothly. It's really confusing what they have mentioned there though.

    • @cubebuilder_
      @cubebuilder_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@MandolinSashaank I have the same cpu, the i7-4790 is still a great CPU in 2021 and I'm very disappointed that I cannot upgrade, even with secure boot and UEFI turned on my computer cannot upgrade. Microsoft better do something about this or else Windows 11 will be the next Vista

    • @MandolinSashaank
      @MandolinSashaank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@cubebuilder_ Totally agree with you. Honestly with just one feature making upgrade impossible is kinda disappointing. Hopefully they change their decision.

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cubebuilder_ Yeah... While AMD was putting TPM in all cpus since 2012, Intel forces the motherboard maker to include it so they cost 2x as much for the motherboard.
      You can add a TPM to most desktops.

  • @Mehdicto
    @Mehdicto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I updated TPM 1.2 to TPM 2.0 but.... a short sad story : The processor isn't supported for Windows 11

    • @bunnies8773
      @bunnies8773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Which CPU? I have an Ivy Bridge ThinkPad in which the TPM is supposedly updatable to 2.0 (haven't tried it yet) and if it turns out to not be compatible in the end, I'd rather not go through all that effort.

    • @akarahexels677
      @akarahexels677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      IKR. I was just about to rant about. Everyone is talking about the TPM thing. My CPU has fTPM but THEY DON'T ACCEPT MY CPU

    • @akarahexels677
      @akarahexels677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@micsss_ Ryzen 2000? I have a 3 2200g and it's not supported

    • @SweatyFeetGirl
      @SweatyFeetGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@micsss_ Ryzen 1000 does have TPM 2.0 built in so it should be supported too

    • @SweatyFeetGirl
      @SweatyFeetGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@micsss_ yea this is all fake news. Only New PCs that are sold with windows 11 are not allowed to have older than 8th gen intel or older than 2000 ryzen processors built in. you can still use a lot older CPUs than this

  • @benjaminkim1
    @benjaminkim1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    This is literally why my Insider Preview tells me why I can’t download this and now there’s a solution. Thanks!

    • @madhavanand756
      @madhavanand756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Myself too an insider, but haven't got an update of windows 11 despite it shows you meet the windows 11 requirements

    • @Jacob443
      @Jacob443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@madhavanand756 windows 11 builds will start rolling out to insiders next week

    • @rosify_.
      @rosify_. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The insiders builds will come out later

    • @rejectt
      @rejectt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jacob443 gonna be in dev build?

    • @Jacob443
      @Jacob443 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rejectt yeah I would assume in the dev channel my guess is beta and lower will get windows 10 builds

  • @jacky6052
    @jacky6052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He went from How to double ur graphics performance to being a actual tech TH-camr proud of you Joe

  • @FubarMike
    @FubarMike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    TPM is such a bs requirement. I hope windows 11 is what finally pushes many people to linux so devs will start making linux versions of mainstream software and windows can slowly die off as the remaining 4 years or so of windows 10 support run out.

    • @Codyslx
      @Codyslx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now, I'm kinda glad its that high, better security for us.

    • @FubarMike
      @FubarMike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iceangelx22 I have been fine. I have a windows 7 machine I will probably continue to use until I can no longer find a web browser that works on it. I haven't been hacked in that situation either. All you need to be safe is a little common sense.

    • @ArtfulCosumDust
      @ArtfulCosumDust 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@iceangelx22 The average user likely wouldn't want to deal with the bios and shit, so most likely Mac's will be on the rise again.

    • @cacodemon345
      @cacodemon345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Linux won't see higher adoption until kernel-based anti-cheat solutions can actually work.

    • @hans-joachimbierwirth4727
      @hans-joachimbierwirth4727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Windows happened. We actually USE our computers.
      The only thing worse than Microsoft are fanboys.

  • @EddyGraphic
    @EddyGraphic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    This requirement has the potential to make Windows 11 a second Windows Vista, this will render a lot of PCs obsolete for no reason since most PCs meet every other minimum requirement except for this.

    • @akarahexels677
      @akarahexels677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't think TPM isn't the issue, since what doesn't let my computer be upgradable is the CPU (which has TPM).

    • @nargwhal
      @nargwhal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      there about to put stickers on pre builds and laptops saying Windows 11 Compatible LMFAOOOO

    • @nargwhal
      @nargwhal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @John Doe jokes on you support ends in five fucking years meaning you cant even use chrome

    • @fortynine3225
      @fortynine3225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It looks like TPM 1.2 is the minimum for Windows 11 but is unsupported TPM 2.0 (available in computers since 2015) is. So if you do not have TPM1.2 you can forget about Windows 11...unless you use some tricks that is...which already on the net and we will see better and easyer ones coming years.. google ''How to install Windows 11 without TPM 2.0 Winaerocom''
      I totally agree TPM, which a lot of people will not use nor care about, is microsoft trolling computer users.

    • @hans-joachimbierwirth4727
      @hans-joachimbierwirth4727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nargwhal Do i have to tell you, where you can shove that support?

  • @riteshgarg
    @riteshgarg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Microsoft and intel might have planned for this obsecelence of pre 8th gen Intel CPUs..... This is not a good move

    • @riteshgarg
      @riteshgarg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @JustVictor 17 Intel always wanted to be Apple

    • @PhillHorrocks
      @PhillHorrocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My 8th gen Intel 8705 isn't supported...

    • @SteveDonev
      @SteveDonev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To play devils advocate here, pre 2018 4 core cpus were the standard, then 6 cores took over in 2018. So this will effectively push all gaming PCs to 6 core and lead to better 6+ core optimization by game devs. So it might be a blessing in disguise

    • @cqwickedwake7651
      @cqwickedwake7651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Year of the linux, this time its true, watch the revolt bros

    • @zeniktorres4320
      @zeniktorres4320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no doubt about that. It's all about the money.

  • @gsusfrk333
    @gsusfrk333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Now my PC says I just have an unsupported processor instead of the the missing TPM.

    • @kzpeanut7967
      @kzpeanut7967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So now what. I want to upgrade too

  • @darknessblades
    @darknessblades 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Why do i suddenly get Classic ThioJoe vibes,when he talks about the TPM module, hacking it by connecting 2 PC's together

    • @jakeludlow7064
      @jakeludlow7064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because the new specification requirements are so ridiculous it sounds like a parody

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jakeludlow7064 Yes, clearly MS is really making this OS for the latest computers. They want to drive everyone to go buy a new machine to run the new OS.

  • @shandy3025
    @shandy3025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    There's no reason to have a tpm has a requirement there are so many different ways to do the same thing

    • @royalkumar795
      @royalkumar795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Switch to Ubuntu and install windows 11 in KVM

    • @android199ios25
      @android199ios25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I prefer mint.

    • @royalkumar795
      @royalkumar795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @etek what's give advantage to have TPM 2.0 to user ?

    • @eleventy-seven
      @eleventy-seven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Only useful for Laptops that require security on the road. Enable built in full disk encryption in Manjaro is fine without TPM

    • @royalkumar795
      @royalkumar795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @etek so it's something like exist in usual smartphone these days which come with Fingerprint or Iris scammer
      If future computer start to implement this it'll secure computer from other non-owner users

  • @MikaelKKarlsson
    @MikaelKKarlsson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    People are running around arms flailing, but Windows 10 will be fine for years.

    • @QuickBits
      @QuickBits 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      2025

    • @x-coin0420
      @x-coin0420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      2025 that's it

    • @NeseComedy
      @NeseComedy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      4 year's isn't really a lot for companies and schools, if that CPU compatibility list is really a requirement that means every Windows workstation with a CPU older than 5 years will not receive security updates anymore and has to be replaced, that's millions of perfectly fine machines that even meet the TPM requirement but still have to be thrown out. If nobody wants to buy them (because they are only good for Linux PCs or servers after that) the parts will land in the trash for no reason.

    • @malrofo
      @malrofo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I still use 7

    • @hans-joachimbierwirth4727
      @hans-joachimbierwirth4727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Windows 7 is fine for years to come.

  • @saloooki2
    @saloooki2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Just got Ubuntu installed and it is working great, I'm even managing to run my Windows games on it with a few workarounds. Not sure if I want to use Windows anyway.

    • @saloooki2
      @saloooki2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @dingus mcgee Linux isn't as user friendly as Windows, which means that you need to be quite technically adept to use it properly. That's the main drawback of it right now, but I can see ZorinOS and such becoming more mainstream.

    • @Budjarn
      @Budjarn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I prefer Manjaro; more intuitive package management

    • @saloooki2
      @saloooki2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Budjarn Yeah, lots of people like Manjaro. I'll have to give it a go at some point.

    • @VibrantRaven
      @VibrantRaven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saloooki2 I'm an arch linux user kekw

    • @saloooki2
      @saloooki2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@VibrantRaven I thought arch users were meant to say "I use Arch btw" 🤔

  • @BinaryRhyme.JackOfArts
    @BinaryRhyme.JackOfArts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Worth noting that the tool tells you you can't run Windows 11 if your CPU is < 8th gen, as well; but it is a soft floor.

    • @AppyTheApe
      @AppyTheApe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about R5 sir? Does it support the upgrade? I'm quite dumb when it comes to tech do u mind if I ask for some info?

    • @himesakaloli7104
      @himesakaloli7104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AppyTheApe Ryzen 2nd Gen is supported, you can see the supported Cpu's list in the Microsoft page. I have a 7th gen intel cpu and is a shame that "I can't run" windows 11

    • @BenTiredson
      @BenTiredson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you are talking about the Ryzen 5 yes it is compatible but requires a bios update if you are on that the same bios since 2017 to 2018 especially the x370 and b350 motherboards.

    • @bobcarn
      @bobcarn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They changed that document. They now say you need 8th-gen and there is no "soft floor".

    • @SweatyFeetGirl
      @SweatyFeetGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yea this is all fake news. Only New PCs that are sold with windows 11 are not allowed to have older than 8th gen intel or older than 2000 ryzen processors built in. you can still use a lot older CPUs than this

  • @gavinthecrafter
    @gavinthecrafter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Thank you so much for clarifying! I was so confused when PC Health Check said that my computer (which I thought definitely met the system requirements) "could not run windows 11". It seems that my computer most likely has a dTPM running version 2.0, so it should work; I guess it just didn't pick up on that...

    • @NatetheNintendofan
      @NatetheNintendofan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you following me it seems like that stop following me you're starting to be like the ninja guy and OwO and Christopher moon

    • @crnpowerimmortal
      @crnpowerimmortal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check if settings in bios is enabled

    • @AndersHass
      @AndersHass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ye there are issues of the PC Health Check, it only approves of 8th gen intel and 2nd gen Ryzen (and newer) even if you meet all the system requirements for older CPUs.

  • @z3razerviper
    @z3razerviper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Mine has a 2.0 tpm however my machine has a gen 5 and for some stupid reason ms is limiting it to GEN 8 CPUs

    • @maxstark2714
      @maxstark2714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i have i3 7th but does not have tpm but my laptop's motherboard has it but still it says processor not supported 😑

    • @danialahmad8912
      @danialahmad8912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Same reason. Mine is 7th gen with tpm 2.0.

    • @masteroak9724
      @masteroak9724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Tanjiro The setup won't let you install if you don't have a gen 8. Mine is gen 4 and I managed to get a tpm chip, but the thing still says my PC can't install it.

    • @NishantSoniTV
      @NishantSoniTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I installed it on a single core Pentium 4 processor with 2 GB 533 Mhz RAM. it works great specially after adding old nVidia GPU to render video. Don't be a clown, all of you., just copy sources folder from win 10 ISO over to Win 11 ISO and leave Install.wim file.

    • @riccardopistocchi7028
      @riccardopistocchi7028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I turned on tpp on my 7th gen cpu but i still get the "your pc is not compatible with w11" message from the pc health app

  • @onedrop3713
    @onedrop3713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    They have had similar requirements before.... they ended up making some features optional that required TPM.
    Don't sweat it. Microsoft wants more customers not less.

    • @abjectt5440
      @abjectt5440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the vast base of users don't need TPM. That would be more for large users. Businesses. Government.

  • @MarcuStar745XD
    @MarcuStar745XD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    I really hope they put down this requirements by the time it launches :(

    • @ipengsmart
      @ipengsmart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. I hope they put this down Requirement.

    • @shreyasrao8016
      @shreyasrao8016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And also add older processors

    • @trandinhvietdung9357
      @trandinhvietdung9357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Metahuman Flash the fukin' tpm chip man

    • @shreyasrao8016
      @shreyasrao8016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Metahuman Flash so the processor is actually compatible with windows 11?

    • @NightmareWolf
      @NightmareWolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a way to passby it

  • @joelkehl7633
    @joelkehl7633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I have the surface laptop 1 from 2017 and it said mine wasn’t compatible. That’s ridiculous!

    • @Jerry4050
      @Jerry4050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a Dell XPS from 2017 and it doesnt have TPS enable but I am glad I upgraded my motherboard and CPU for my main PC that is from 2016 to have 2020 parts, I just need a RTX graphics card to be fully complete

  • @Shawn-fq6hi
    @Shawn-fq6hi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    1:28
    Me rocking a 10 year old previous generation Intel i3 processor, checking my TPM

    • @skip741x3
      @skip741x3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      installed on an old mac pro 1,1

  • @Alan-ur9jo
    @Alan-ur9jo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I switched from 10 to Linux after an update rendered my laptops touchpad and wi-fi useless. I don't care how many new versions Microsoft release, I'm never going back to Windows.

    • @shis10
      @shis10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah same here. I switched to Ubuntu Linux recently.

    • @infd13
      @infd13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everything will be on Linux mint for 2025.

    • @vampirethespiderbatgod9740
      @vampirethespiderbatgod9740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's easy to move to Linux if your work can be done on Linux. If the software you need is only available on Win or MacOS, can't do that.

  • @AdamKyleAnderson
    @AdamKyleAnderson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I can see Microsoft dropping all these requirements by the time they launch W11

    • @Legion849
      @Legion849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It lauches in December at least Microsoft said so. I expect a lot to change by the time we get a market version

    • @BenPrime010
      @BenPrime010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i hope ur right

  • @mithrandir491
    @mithrandir491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Such a useless feature by Microsoft (among other things) , TPM based encryption was primarily used for Bitlocker for mobile devices but its not actually needed for desktop non-business platforms. Furthermore, its a bad idea to trust proprietary encryption systems designed by Microsoft and Apple.

    • @NazmusLabs
      @NazmusLabs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I use bitlocker without TPM. TPM is optional for bitlocker

    • @chlorobyte_projects
      @chlorobyte_projects 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NazmusLabs oh, okay
      What use is there then?????

    • @NazmusLabs
      @NazmusLabs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@chlorobyte_projects Let me clarify, BitLocker DOES require TPM by default. But you have the OPTION to use a LESS SECURE option if you don’t have TPM. You can either use BitLocker with a password that you must type every-time your PC reboots, or use a USB key, where your PC will store decryption keys, and you need to keep the USB plugged in when turning on the PC. Unplugging the USB works like a car key. No one can get into your PC.

    • @chlorobyte_projects
      @chlorobyte_projects 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @20PercentRendered Here's a hint to DRM idiotheads: if your content can be displayed on a device in any way, it can be recorded. :)

    • @wsippel
      @wsippel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Office 365 and Azure AD can use TPMs. That's apparently the main reason for the push (or the final straw, as MS wanted to make TPMs mandatory for years now). There were a lot of issues with work from home during the pandemic, as company IT often relied on TPM, but folks suddenly had to use their home PCs or whatever cheap old garbage they could source quickly, and that caused a ton of headaches for IT guys. They had to relax their security features, but that also meant restricting access to certain data in some cases, which made working from home more difficult.

  • @chuckmuckamuck8001
    @chuckmuckamuck8001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I really want to go to the Microsoft headquarters and "ask to see the manager".

    • @warehousetechtips
      @warehousetechtips 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah you will need a ryzen 5 instead of ryzen 7 to run windows 11. RIP win 11 fans

    • @zank8470
      @zank8470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The only time for me to be an annoying Karen

    • @warehousetechtips
      @warehousetechtips 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @GG Gamez100 (PH) they are money hungry thats why windows 11 specs are so extreme

    • @doge5603
      @doge5603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@warehousetechtips Hardware specs are not crazy for a modern OS and for the TPM there's definitely going to be a work around.

    • @warehousetechtips
      @warehousetechtips 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doge5603 yeah but a lot of people cant run it. microsoft is soooo money hungry

  • @3DJapan
    @3DJapan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did the quick test and found my 2017 laptop is good to go but my desktop from 2014 gave the error so I'll have to look into that one.

  • @randamixer6473
    @randamixer6473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Last time I was this early, windows 8 was a success

  • @SteenG3yL
    @SteenG3yL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I'm running a Z97 Mobo with a 4790K in it for the last 5-6 years. It still works like a charm, does everything I need it to do and paired with a decent GPU I can game like anyone else.
    I'll be damned I'm going to throw all that out because it doesn't have TPM. No Windows 11 for me I guess

    • @johnc2438
      @johnc2438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess you'll have to take a "loser" ticket. Line forms behind me! 😎

    • @Mantis4
      @Mantis4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao same my 4790k is still great there is no reason to make people throw it away and make more waste

    • @liketheninja8658
      @liketheninja8658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      4.8 ghz 4790k still trucks like a lot of the more recent stuff

    • @mikes9939
      @mikes9939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are so correct on the 4790K. Same deal for me and I ain't changing it for windows 11 or any other windows version. The processor speed wars are over for the most part, no need for anything much faster than 4 GHZ I7 except for games that I don't play. Does not improve the Internet experience at all.

    • @a1-0za-z54
      @a1-0za-z54 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Woozy
      yes, for server or home & office plus games of versions still flys, days/things will past same dinosaurces, J.Steve-gone, pc-gone2, nevermind as since 90's, not anymore genuine elite not to mention excel-till excellent top pc which will never appears again 4 good better than anything like POWER-EXTREMEd mac in 80/90's raises to NeXT-HeIGHT, eNded since 1893(famous brand sloganLike in all those ads.)

  • @IbraTech04
    @IbraTech04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Anyone else feel like the TPM requirement was a bit much? Like 64-bit only, I get it no one uses 32-bit and even if they did God knows performance would be awful with Windows 11. UEFI and Secure Boot, sure yeah most PCs support UEFI boot anyway. But TPM 2.0? I feel like that's pushing people to buying a new PC at that point

    • @elecman748
      @elecman748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And the 8th gen cpu is the last nail of the coffin, looks like I will don't upgrade to W11 in a long time

    • @proletarianrise10
      @proletarianrise10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's because that's exactly what it is, planned obsolescence in disguise. I used to defend MS when it came to old hardware that was legitimately old (10+ yrs) and rightfully called unsupported, but this is plain bullshit. My current hardware is not even 5yrs old at this point in time and it's already obsolete. Tough shit for us I guess, I won't be upgrading in a very long time, no money to upgrade to another reasonably powerful machine just to be W11 compatible.
      If this stays, it's gonna be Vista/Xbox One all over again - Xbox One because remember all the crap MS actually wanted to require back when it was originally announced. Holy shit.

    • @IbraTech04
      @IbraTech04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@proletarianrise10 At this point I'm just crossing my fingers Microsoft backs down on this TPM thing. I mean the public backlash they're gonna get can't be worth it

    • @proletarianrise10
      @proletarianrise10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@IbraTech04 Yep, especially in the current climate. An ongoing pandemic where a lot of people either lost or can't find a job anymore, and hardware shortage due to scalpers and miners? Yeah, I am sure people are rushing to make another hardware upgrade... *shakes head*

    • @jmonlive
      @jmonlive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@proletarianrise10 BET RIOTS WILL BREAK OUT...MAYBE THE MOB'S VOICE OF REASON WILL "PERSUADE" MICROSOFT TO LET OFF WITH TPM!

  • @ncknelson
    @ncknelson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Incredible research bro for TPM you've gone so far with this haha

  • @CaseySexton
    @CaseySexton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thank you for doing this research! I've been asking this question since yesterday and this is the first channel that has answered it clearly.

  • @sodalunch1949
    @sodalunch1949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    OR do the easy method and bypass the requirement by replacing appraiserres.dll from the Windows 10 installer to disable the TPM requirement.

    • @AndroidX1X
      @AndroidX1X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well yes

    • @humakashif3123
      @humakashif3123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell do this works

    • @TaylerPlays
      @TaylerPlays 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      how

    • @xparadoxical69
      @xparadoxical69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another way is DISM - it doesn't even check any requirements, just unpacks the chosen system image from the .wim file, and the leaked win11 build seems to work just fine even if you don't have tpm

    • @TaylerPlays
      @TaylerPlays 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xparadoxical69 how do u do that

  • @tenen2105
    @tenen2105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    MS, we are in the middle of a pandemic and people getting a hard time to get a job. Let's release an OS that's not compatible with their current devices, so they can go and buy new ones. Where's the logic on this MS? 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @antishulk
      @antishulk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      with all the cpu and gpu shortages as well

    • @ARose47
      @ARose47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Your not obligated to update to 11 (it hasn't even been released) and Windows 10 will still get support till 2025.. idk why you're complaining

    • @kornkernel2232
      @kornkernel2232 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well people can still keep using Windows 10, just like the Windows versions prior. They check the hardware anyways, so if its not compatible, you won't get it anyway. 🤷‍♂️

    • @th1nhhdk
      @th1nhhdk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They dont care about you, they only care about money(I use arch btw)

    • @brownknight
      @brownknight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Microsoft promised 10 to be the final version of windows. People bought it thinking it will be supported throughout now most of the people who bought it are left out in the blue without security update for their aging computer.

  • @Alex-un5tl
    @Alex-un5tl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am more concerned about intel core gen 8 as a minimum requirement than the TPM

    • @katakisLives
      @katakisLives 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think a lot of people who are falling foul of the upgrade are doing so because of the CPU issue

  • @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster
    @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    If they are trying to get people interested in upgrading to their Windows 10 2.0 OS.... I mean Windows 11 OS, they are not starting off very well. I already don't intent to upgrade right away 😒, but the requirements they are going for is MORE than the requirements they asked people for when people were originally asked to upgrade to their Windows 10 OS.
    Nice work Microsoft 👏 keep up the bad work, it will make keeping me on normal Windows 10 Pro OS that much easier of a discussion later on 🖕😃👍.

    • @daton3630
      @daton3630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the only reason i want to upgrade to windows 10 2.0 is the window position memorization thing lol

    • @denizylmaz8131
      @denizylmaz8131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Windows 10 will be insecure after 2025 as Microsoft will stop support for windows 10. Just switch to linux. My pc is way above the minimum requirements but I am gonna stick with windows 10 until I install linux

    • @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster
      @Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@denizylmaz8131 My plan exactly...

    • @PWingert1966
      @PWingert1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't worry they are not releasing it until 2022! I am predicting 11/11/22!

    • @daton3630
      @daton3630 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PWingert1966 they should release it on 11/11/2111

  • @justadragonnamemarcus1751
    @justadragonnamemarcus1751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Imagine windows change requirements to 16gb ram with tpm 2.1 only

    • @l_aggy
      @l_aggy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ye you prob made that comment cause that's the only specs your computer meets to the requirements

    • @antishulk
      @antishulk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they did half of this and also did something arguably worse than 8gb of ram minimum they made intel core 8000 and ryzen 2000 the minimum basically check the minimum and the separate minimum intel processor requirements on microsoft’s website for more details

    • @justadragonnamemarcus1751
      @justadragonnamemarcus1751 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antishulk ??? I guess you didn't see my comment correctly

    • @belovedtruth3447
      @belovedtruth3447 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you find out if you have this TPM or whatever is, in your computer?

    • @garyc5483
      @garyc5483 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@belovedtruth3447 run tpm.msc from the cmd line

  • @fragalot
    @fragalot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This TPM thing is going to be a big problem. I think Microsoft will eventually make it an optional requirement, as most users just don't need it. The leaked build doesn't need TPM so Microsoft could EASILY remove this requirement.

    • @akarahexels677
      @akarahexels677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The leaked build isn't final. I very much doubt that they will take it out since (from my VERY SHALLOW search) that they will rely on this to increase security on the OS because... well, it's literally it's purpose.

    • @muhamadrizkyananda
      @muhamadrizkyananda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't the leaked one does need it too? It's just that leaked iso have workaround to bypass it currently

    • @Dawid8
      @Dawid8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@muhamadrizkyananda I think it did, so as you said, people just found ways around it

    • @sali-ali
      @sali-ali 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@muhamadrizkyananda Yup the leaked iso requires it also, but as you mentioned there is a bypass and it works just fine with my 2009 Core 2 Duo iMac. I hope this bypass also works with the final version.

  • @dexterjones7187
    @dexterjones7187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic video! You covered all the bases. Thank you for doing the research for the rest of us. Much appreciated!

  • @Zandercraft
    @Zandercraft 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Yeah... RIP my 2017 laptop... I'm running Windows 10 on that thing until EOS. Then I'm switching to Linux. It has a core i7-6400... Gotta love that my perfectly capable CPU is just being disqualified by Microsoft.

    • @abjectt5440
      @abjectt5440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have they published anything about how they selected cpu's? What if it's just a scam to force people to go out and get new hardware? I'm skeptical.

    • @Zandercraft
      @Zandercraft 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abjectt5440 They are currently allowing insiders on the Dev channel to download Windows 11 for testing so that they can collect metrics on how many people still use older processors and how it performs. That's the main complaint of people, though. There is NO specific intergenerational factor or technology (other than performance) going all the way back to 5th gen that would require this. It is, quite blatantly, a virtual limitation that appears to be a money grab since they now only profit off of new computer sales (licensed pre-installed with Windows).

    • @IronIsKing
      @IronIsKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an ryzen 3200g which is basically one of the minimum cpus for windows 11, thank god. RIP to the other budget gamers who cant upgrade to windows 11

    • @sulfurnitride
      @sulfurnitride 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you had any cpu from Intel that's 8000 and above it would have supported it

    • @kriskruz3792
      @kriskruz3792 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      that is a perfectly good cpu ! Linux would run smooth on it!

  • @phazonlord0098
    @phazonlord0098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Why this Windows 10 reskin needs TPM 2.0 and a freakin' 8th gen Intel ?!? It just doesn't make any sense having those as minimum requirements for such a underwhelming update based on what they showed.

    • @akarahexels677
      @akarahexels677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Windows 11 isn't a Windows 10 reskin tho?

    • @sanjay_swain
      @sanjay_swain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a sign of the amount of bloatware added. Have a happy time trying to remove those without breaking the OS.

  • @fragalot
    @fragalot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    10:57 yep even with the SAME brand the pinouts can be different. My P9X79 motherboard has the TPM 20pin connector, but the pin outs are different from what you are showing here. Some are the same, some have different labels, and some aren't used on one but not on the other, and vice versa. So I'll be damned if I'll find the the right TPM module for my old mobo, considering it's like 9 years old now.

    • @Palmtop_User
      @Palmtop_User 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah they all have different pinouts, each manufacturer has their own and some manufacturers have more than one make. Dont be fooled if the blanked out pin of another manufacturer seems the same, they can still be completely different.
      And even better due to windows 11 announcement of this requirement scalpers are doing there thing and no one can get a tpm.
      In general for your case tho id recommend searching up "[insert mobo manufacturer] tpm module" and you should find it (at least a picture so you know what to look for with current supply)

    • @joseevb04
      @joseevb04 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You tell me, i have a 11 years old motherboard

  • @jaypormei1881
    @jaypormei1881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so happy with my Celeron N3060 laptop from 2016, it has TPM 2.0 installed on the motherboard and it also comes with TPM 1.2 support on the datasheet.

  • @RogerZoul
    @RogerZoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Just like MS to implement some feature in a shitty way that puts all these people under stress to keep up. It’s a good reason to bail on them.

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Microsoft is buying a taller bus so there is more room to throw users under the bus.

    • @TylerTMG
      @TylerTMG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kensmith5694 LOL

    • @AcolyteOfLucifer
      @AcolyteOfLucifer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @owo グーチmoshi the complete opposite philosophy of Windows 10 XD

    • @imford
      @imford 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @owo グーチmoshi I was able to turn on TPM 2.0 by going into my bios and activating PTT, then windows 11 will be able to get installed

  • @christopherkidwell9817
    @christopherkidwell9817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Something tells me that the requirement for TPM is going to be dropped because there are WAY too many computers... new computers like mine bought last year... that do not support TPM 1.2 or 2.0.

    • @aviralmishraofficial1626
      @aviralmishraofficial1626 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine is from 2015 and it has tpm 2.0 but has 5th gen Intel and you know the damn reason😔

  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    In other words this is just another way to force people to buy a new computer... Even though the ones I already have work perfectly fine. But if I want Windows 11, I either gotta hack it somehow or lose money.

    • @mattstansbeary3068
      @mattstansbeary3068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not if your Computer after 2018 then you should be fine. before 2018 then yes your going to need to Buy a Computer. Take it from me you should of just go in the New Sony PS5 and Microsoft Xbox series out Time to get a new PC then sit for 5,6 years and go ok is the PS6\ Next Xbox out yes or No time to Repeat if yes. takes the worry away when they do something like this plus everything will run for 5 or 6 years no issue.

    • @namesurname4666
      @namesurname4666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      stay on 10 or switch to linux

    • @mazz1985
      @mazz1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They really need to extend Windows 10 lifetime or they will get shietstorm.
      Could be until every last cpu has been used and you just cant get older ones anymore.
      That way it would not feel forced.

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If your computer was made after 2014 it should be fine.
      Literally AMD has put a TPM chip embedded in every single one of their CPUs since 2014.
      And Intel has asked that all of their motherboard oems integrated on their motherboard, although that's actually up to the motherboard manufacturers. Until motherboards cost so much more because they force the consumer to pay for all of these bills and whistles separately.
      You might have to disable CSM and enable UEFI in BIOS and convert your partition to GPT if you want the TPM chip to work, many people who have installed Windows themselves did not do it properly and therefore won't have access to tpm. Realistically anything above 6th gen Intel and anything newer than bulldozer will work fine.

    • @mattstansbeary3068
      @mattstansbeary3068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mazz1985 Windows 10 is useable until 2025 so if you want to skip Windows 11 or opt out of it you can. but they will stop supporting it then and by support I mean they are still bring out Patches and Newer improvements to windows 10.. They are planning to do both this Fall.

  • @kevinleblanc47
    @kevinleblanc47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I can dig a guy who stops the show and admits an error right on for you and me Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @PWingert1966
    @PWingert1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well if it's TPM 2.0 then all my 11 machines are screwed. they all have 1.2. Globally only about 4% of all PCs have TPM at all. So a huge number of people are very very screwed. Thank you Microsoft for finally ushering in the year of the Linux Desktop!

    • @belovedtruth3447
      @belovedtruth3447 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you tell me how to find out if i have tpm 2.0?

    • @alexeibradley-malcolm2462
      @alexeibradley-malcolm2462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@belovedtruth3447 type tpm.msc into windows search bar. The number next to specification version is your tpm.

    • @PWingert1966
      @PWingert1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexeibradley-malcolm2462 You may have to have an administrative command line to run it.

    • @alexeibradley-malcolm2462
      @alexeibradley-malcolm2462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PWingert1966 It's easier just to search tpm.msc or you can do run and then tpm.msc

  • @Spunow
    @Spunow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thx. I was able to find my TPM in my BIOS and turned it on.

  • @titanproductions48
    @titanproductions48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So glad that people actually will make a video so others can learn about this. Good luck getting Windows 11 compatibility everyone!

    • @NJP76
      @NJP76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meanwhile I am still stuck on Win10 V1909. None of the "fixes" have worked to make it upgrade. But at least it is stable and runs just fine, so I will happily stick with it....as if I have a choice.

    • @titanproductions48
      @titanproductions48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NJP76 that honestly sucks, and I think Microsoft should’ve made a more compatible software for users. It’s honestly throwing away a ton of their user base for the sake of “innovation”.

    • @NJP76
      @NJP76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@titanproductions48 What actually galls me about this is for years microshaft told us that Win10 was the LAST operating system. So now they come out with Win11...which a major part of the Community can't use. Not trying to sound too negative here. Just sometimes have to question the motivation behind some of these changes. Ah well, as you said ... "innovation".

  • @longkimnguon9999
    @longkimnguon9999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a laptop which was luckily created in 2018 (Latitude 3400 ) with a TPM and Secure boot. It uses Intel UHD Graphics 620 and Intel Core i5 8th Gen which also meets the system requirements.
    Of course, I understand how TPM works and why Microsoft did this to Windows 11. Since more hackers began to blow up on Windows more than Linux, the team tried to follow the Linux's style by improving security.

  • @rhandeymaahrsch2151
    @rhandeymaahrsch2151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Conspiracy theory: "we (Microsoft) are benevolent, and we will give you a FREE update to windows 11. (To make it seem like we are competitive with Apple)
    Oh no, your hardware is too old. Better upgrade the hardware.
    Oh no, the windows license is tied to your hardware.
    Now you have to BUY a new full version of Windows 11"

    • @jameszy
      @jameszy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is why you should tie your Windows license to your Microsoft account, because that allows you to transfer your license across computers. I swapped my motherboard and W10 deactivated itself because of the hardware change, but because my license is tied to my MS account I could transfer the license from my "old" PC to my "new" PC.

    • @rhandeymaahrsch2151
      @rhandeymaahrsch2151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jameszy It depends on how your Windows 10 license was obtained.
      Full retail versions can often be transferred, but OEM versions can’t. Other versions, well, it depends on a lot of factors.

    • @FNLNFNLN
      @FNLNFNLN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rhandeymaahrsch2151 You can just call up MS support and be like "hey, my motherboard died, I had to change it out, can you reactivate windows for me" and they'll do it.
      It's how I transferred my dead laptop's OEM license to my desktop build.
      Not that you lose much even without activating Windows. MS wants you to use Windows more than they want you to pay for using Windows.
      As long as you're on their OS, they can sell you Game Pass, Office, Onedrive, whatever.

    • @Subhrajyoti
      @Subhrajyoti 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      how much old is ur pc

    • @rhandeymaahrsch2151
      @rhandeymaahrsch2151 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FNLNFNLN Technically that is cheating or stealing.
      If the premise is that cheating and stealing is allowed, then we don’t even have to pay for new hardware.

  • @azkakhairi7739
    @azkakhairi7739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    When the actual fact sounds like a parody

  • @osm4834
    @osm4834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    me : has gaming pc from 2021 that costed 5,000 dollars
    windows 11 : Not so fast. Your pc can't run windows 11.

    • @snintendog
      @snintendog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      TPM realy isnt used its worthless and there have been talks about mobos removing them from their boards for a while looks like windows wants to use it as DRM again.

    • @mirandaab972
      @mirandaab972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@snintendog absolutely, paying for Windows isn't even worth it

    • @22b_gc8
      @22b_gc8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@snintendog That seems more of a manufacturer push, and since Laptops are more preferred these days, that can easily force many users to buy a new one.

    • @C4Oc.
      @C4Oc. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mirandaab972 Windows 11 is a free upgrade from 10 though

    • @brokeandtired
      @brokeandtired 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@C4Oc. if it requires a new PC or Mobo its not free. My 10th Gen Intel Mobo isn't compatible....No TPM.

  • @Yes-me4pk
    @Yes-me4pk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    VERY helpful teaching me about AMD's fTMP in the BIOS. Thank ya!

  • @suhas5214
    @suhas5214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thio, is there any possibility for me to upgrade to Windows 11, I have TPM 2.0, But my CPU is Intel i7-7th gen 🥺. I feel betrayed by Microsoft 😭.

    • @elecman748
      @elecman748 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mayukh Biswas how?

    • @itspurelypassionate
      @itspurelypassionate 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      check compatibility using microsoft tool that they have listed on their website. just click on check and if it comes all green then you will be eligible for free update

    • @suhas5214
      @suhas5214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itspurelypassionate well it shows not compatible, hence I asked for working around my CPU. Insider Devs prior to 24th June can use win11 until public release. I don't meet any criteria 😭

    • @itspurelypassionate
      @itspurelypassionate 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@suhas5214 Oh. idk why they are only supporting processors >= 8. That seems redundant to me 🤷‍♂️

    • @SweatyFeetGirl
      @SweatyFeetGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@suhas5214 You can upgrade dont worry. its just that retailers cant sell Windows 11 machines with cpus that are older than 8th gen intel

  • @niveaaa
    @niveaaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    So glad to see this in the TPM Management :-
    Status:
    The TPM is ready to use.

    • @debeeriz
      @debeeriz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mine says that too, biut the version is 1.2

    • @dsquare2803
      @dsquare2803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      same it shows TPM 2.0 in my PC but PC health check up says i cant run windows 11 despite having TPM 2.0. What should do I now??

    • @aminyahouse8151
      @aminyahouse8151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dsquare2803 same wtf

    • @dsquare2803
      @dsquare2803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @no what's the minimum requirements of processor?

    • @dsquare2803
      @dsquare2803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aminyahouse8151 what?

  • @vogonp4287
    @vogonp4287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Me who runs Fedora: Interesting

    • @Fr0zenPeanut
      @Fr0zenPeanut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Fedoras are for pheasants; I run a fabulous top hat.

    • @kensmith5694
      @kensmith5694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      LOL From Puppy Linux 528
      No TPM or other TLA needed here.

    • @moxiaaliso965
      @moxiaaliso965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Quick question, whats the easiest distro version for extreme beginners just to mess around linux os and for laptop with touch screen? , Im light user like writing documents and such maybe little bit of photo edit

    • @yankeegohome9662
      @yankeegohome9662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      btw, (any self-respecting linux-user would know what will come now so I just omit it lol)

    • @alessandro_cbz
      @alessandro_cbz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yankeegohome9662 ... i use arch

  • @MisterFastbucks
    @MisterFastbucks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One other thing to check: If you have a 6th or 7th Gen Intel system, some manufacturers offer flash updates that will upgrade your TPM 1.2 chip to the 2.0 specification. Check the manufacturer's driver download area and see if there is a TPM 2.0 firmware update.

  • @ABOhiccups
    @ABOhiccups 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey Microsoft, If you don’t remove TPM off Windows 11 Minimum Requirement. Most of us will be Full-Time Linux Users.

    • @darthmocap
      @darthmocap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't threaten me with a Linux time!!!

    • @lesnik5003
      @lesnik5003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dr904 I actually wrote this comment from Windows 7

  • @sta1nless
    @sta1nless 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I don't know how they expect to get people in poor countries to install this if it has such high requirements

    • @SunIsLost
      @SunIsLost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They will most likely stick to Windows 10 (if not older Windows or alternative)

    • @PWingert1966
      @PWingert1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Microsoft only cares about corporate and enterprise users. They have been trying to get rid of consumers for decades.

    • @paulsawyer2621
      @paulsawyer2621 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you see the time fram for winows 11 releace dat it doing the Holidays time were they hope we be suck in in buying computer device as gift post 2020 spent off after a poor 2020 year it a way for them to make money . we have to 2025 to lear Linux

    • @hans-joachimbierwirth4727
      @hans-joachimbierwirth4727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PWingert1966 In effect, not corporate or enterprise users but gamers have always been Microsoft's revenue backbone. Without them it's game over for Microsoft.

  • @rchltmedia
    @rchltmedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Microsoft should make TPM as recommended *NOT REQUIRED*
    why they do this?

    • @kingofgamesyamiyami6269
      @kingofgamesyamiyami6269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Security. TPM 1.2 is using an insecure algorithm, which was fixed in TPM 2.0.

    • @Tall_Order
      @Tall_Order 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To squeeze more money out of an already dry population.

    • @Codyslx
      @Codyslx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kingofgamesyamiyami6269 This

    • @sali-ali
      @sali-ali 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you write in bold?

    • @hansnielsen4165
      @hansnielsen4165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sali-ali
      An asterrisk * on each side of the text.

  • @vics.1176
    @vics.1176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shout out to you Joe. I've got a BEAST of a new system and I was scratching my head when PC Health Check gave me a thumbs down for a Win11 install. I was like, "WTF?" Your Video had me good to go in a few easy seconds. My UEFI BIOS is a bit different, but I found the section that fixed it. The default had it set to "Discreet" parameters (On an ASUS ROG STRIX Z390-E board, running an INTEL i9 9900k CPU). I switched it to "Firmware" (which I'm assuming was the difference between dTPM 1.2 & fTPM 2.0). Fixed. Thanks, bro.

  • @999sian
    @999sian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My Dad's laptop from 2012 doesn't have a TPM Chip it works completely fine upgraded to 16GB Ram and SSD. It ashame that all the ewaste that gonna be produced I might have to modify the ISO but we should not have to

    • @22b_gc8
      @22b_gc8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Win 10 is supported till '25, so there's enough time

  • @damagelight2320
    @damagelight2320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    By the way for anyone wondering - When Windows 10 stops receiving updates in 2025, your computer won't suddenly explode. You've been told that it's better to get updates, but they are not necessary at all, unless there's a major bug in the code. Microsoft even updated Windows XP when it was out of support, so they might do the same with 10.
    What I'm saying is that your current "updated" computer is still vulnerable, but if you don't download random viruses from unknown sites and use adblock, then you're completely fine with your good old 2008 computer. Obviously try to keep important files in external drives, but you should do that anyways.

    • @luanaxoxo2905
      @luanaxoxo2905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You´re right. I used windows 7 until january 2021 because I liked it. I switched because it was time to get a new pc and I am a gamer, and all new games require windows 10 , so there was no way arround anymore. But I started to like windows 10 very soon and now I will not switch to windows 11 until games I want will require win 11. But maybe I will keep windows 10 for my older games and switch to console in 2025 for new games. But yeah, in ter,ms of virusses you are right. Like I said. I used win 7 until january this year, mever got virusses and/or malware.

    • @DevynCairns
      @DevynCairns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That might not be a good idea, especially if you ever use any untrusted wifi. Windows has a history of things that are exploitable over the network, and you combine that with applications that might have network vulnerabilities and being able to get remote code execution in there, plus an old OS with known privilege escalation, you might be vulnerable by just being on a hostile network. It's certainly not impossible with an up to date OS but it's much less likely that there are known unpatched vulnerabilities of high severity.

    • @Priyajit_Ghosh
      @Priyajit_Ghosh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, buy antivirus or install free versions of Antivirus in your computer. Or At least have Malwarebytes Extension in your browser

    • @damagelight2320
      @damagelight2320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DevynCairns What I meant was that if you only browse the internet, you dont need a new 11th gen pc, your old one will work just as fine. Yeah, it is safer to use newer pc, but if you don' care about computers, why bother upgrading? I know people who still use Windows XP because it just does what it needs to, and they never had problems.

    • @damagelight2320
      @damagelight2320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Priyajit_Ghosh Yep, antiviruses may patch some things that windows didn't.

  • @SjoerdvanGestel
    @SjoerdvanGestel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    2013 laptop, I'm shit out of luck. I'm pretty disappointed by this as it's still a capable device that can easily run w11.
    Just checked as your mention of 4th gen gave me some hope, but my Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ Processor does not mention Platform Trusted Technologies, but it does mention Intel® Trusted Execution Technology, but it's a No 🙄

    • @ibishudrive
      @ibishudrive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can easily mod the iso to bypass the system check

    • @Raphaelwelingston
      @Raphaelwelingston 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ibishudrive Yeah, for the beta which has been leaked ! We don't know if it will be the case for the release version !

    • @NazmusLabs
      @NazmusLabs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ibishudrive No such option exists. You can’t “easily” enable an option that doesn’t exist. 😢

    • @ibishudrive
      @ibishudrive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Raphaelwelingston yea it might change

    • @the_danksmith134
      @the_danksmith134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the thing is it will run Windows 11 better than Windows 10 because it has less bloatware to tax your system. You can try the bypass method if you want to get it working for now and hope it will work on the final version as well

  • @chewylandlive
    @chewylandlive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    7 year old Thinkcenter, USB baremetal install, TPM 1.2. Took about 2 minutes to install, one reboot…Buttery and silky and completely trouble free. Brilliant.

  • @isharadhanushan2002
    @isharadhanushan2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 motherboard with i7 unlocked 6700K.
    The motherboard has a TPM header below the PCI-E slot where front panel audio and USB connectors are located.

    • @isharadhanushan1369
      @isharadhanushan1369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It will be hard to find a TPM Module that supports your motherboard because it is 6 years old.

    • @rohanathilakasiri280
      @rohanathilakasiri280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@isharadhanushan1369 Yeah. That's true

    • @isharadhanushan2002
      @isharadhanushan2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@isharadhanushan1369Yeah. I couldn't find a module that is compatible with my motherboard. However On gigabyte website a tpm 2.0 module is available that is compatible with 100 and 200 intel chipset motherboards. Unfortunately that module is out of stock.

  • @Derively
    @Derively 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My 6th gen i5 also has PTT, I enabled it in bios.

    • @RohitGanjam
      @RohitGanjam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here, 6th Gen i5, enabled PTT in BIOS. Still didn't work after I enabled it though.. lol.

    • @Derively
      @Derively 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RohitGanjam I checked it with tpm.msc (as described in this video), and it gave valid info.

    • @mariankis1158
      @mariankis1158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have 6th or 7th gen of intel, TPM is not your problem, the cpu is. Windows 11 sys req is anything above gen 8th.

    • @Vengir
      @Vengir 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RohitGanjam The official checker app checks if your CPU is on the official list (8th gen or newer). But the now removed page shown in this video mentions that the "CPU generation" is only a soft requirement.
      In the end, we will have to see.

    • @RohitGanjam
      @RohitGanjam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vengir such a waste. Even if the system specs are satisfied this generation requirement is surely just a gimmick for planned obsolescence. Truly sad to see microsoft do this, especially since there is no real reason for it from a system requirements POV

  • @SomeNerdFromWhatever
    @SomeNerdFromWhatever 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    With this whole mixed messages thing Microsoft's been doing since yesterday with soft floor and hard floor stuff, I honestly hope Microsoft listens and responds fast.
    If they don't, a lot of people will say that this will be the new Windows Vista, and we all know how that turned out.

    • @lokeshreddybonthu1348
      @lokeshreddybonthu1348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      iam already seeing some of those comments

    • @sburton015
      @sburton015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its just like what I consider the legendary TH-cam video about operating systems is a TH-cam video called "Vista Install in 2 minutes". I remember that video was uploaded to TH-cam on February 1st, 2007. This guy saying that Vista is the new exiteing operating system from Microsoft. Then he says that he popped it in his machine and it seems to be incompatible with everything he has on his computer, so he got mad and loaded it into a shredder instead (the disk) saying, "now, load this into your machine". Now Windows 11 is the new exiteing operating system from Microsoft, but it looks like it does have compatibility issues with many PCs.

    • @brianvogt8125
      @brianvogt8125 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Recent versions of Win10 are such resource hogs that I regard them as the new Vista. My little old laptop computer stopped giving same day response, so I reverted to Win7 and it's performing beautifully again.

  • @BrunoJatczak
    @BrunoJatczak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tank you so much, i had a fTPM and had no idea :)

  • @muralisreekrishnachittoji9326
    @muralisreekrishnachittoji9326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Processor plays an important role in windows 11 upgrade, microsoft stated only new processors can run windows 11,
    Mine is intel i5 6th gen, with Ptt on but still I can't install windows11

    • @ShakilPathanS1
      @ShakilPathanS1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      same here what should we do?...any hope for us?

    • @IvanTube0
      @IvanTube0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      bruh im literally running amd ryzen 3 3200g with integrated graphics and i can upgrade to windows 11 lol
      just had to go into bios and activate it

    • @aviralmishraofficial1626
      @aviralmishraofficial1626 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here
      i3 5005u
      I have TMP, I have directX 12 and UEFI as well but 5th gen 😔

    • @abirhasanshovon1947
      @abirhasanshovon1947 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can.. there will be always pirated version of windows 11

    • @aviralmishraofficial1626
      @aviralmishraofficial1626 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abirhasanshovon1947 but what if I prefer official as not that tech savy¿

  • @peterpui7219
    @peterpui7219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you very much for your clear explanation, yesterday I was doubted, Today I am clearer.

  • @freedom_fighter98
    @freedom_fighter98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Finally, an excuse to start daily driving Linux haha

    • @deckercs2188
      @deckercs2188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hve fun gaming with that dogshit

    • @plazmaguy13yago9
      @plazmaguy13yago9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@deckercs2188 havong fun for 6 month already but i dont play triple a because i dont like to buy the same shit every 2 years

    • @deckercs2188
      @deckercs2188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@plazmaguy13yago9 hving linux feels like limiting your pc for no reason

    • @plazmaguy13yago9
      @plazmaguy13yago9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@deckercs2188 yes rn its limiting in some aspects but its getting better by the day and before you know it you will have to learn to use it oc it would probably be easier by than with all graphic gui

    • @CodingWithBen
      @CodingWithBen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@deckercs2188 first of all. I have been using Linux as a daily driver for months. If it feels like a bottlecap then you’re clearly using it wrong. I’m using a window manager and it is FAR FAR FAR more productive than windows 10. And proton gaming grows everyday. I can play the most intensive games on Linux now with no issues. Please don’t say Linux is bad because you either clearly haven’t used it. Or you used a bad distro and just marked Linux as bad

  • @aurelandreas7949
    @aurelandreas7949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks man , i just activate my TPM from bios. i have a MSI X470 Gamming plus motherboard with AMD Ryzen 7 2700X. On my Device Manager has apear Security devices with AMD PSP 3.0 Device and Trusted Platform Module 2.0. On tpm.msc now it show that the TPM is ready to use . I am so happy. I am waiting now for the update. Thanks again !

    • @aurelandreas7949
      @aurelandreas7949 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have pass the PC healt at glance to.

  • @Mickelraven
    @Mickelraven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Looking at the system requirements, I will predict Windows 11 will be the new Windows Vista

    • @rcat777
      @rcat777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can someone explain this :|

    • @scaredelmo2173
      @scaredelmo2173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rcat777 Windows Vista was hated, and very laggy on machines that updated from XP. But I don't see it that way, many have said performance for windows 11 is similar to windows 10, even in dev builds

    • @rcat777
      @rcat777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scaredelmo2173 Oh ok, thanks

  • @sali-ali
    @sali-ali 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I'm using it with the installator files replacement trick since few days in my Core 2 Duo 2009 iMac and it works fine.

    • @la28quinn79
      @la28quinn79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How are you able to do it? Do you have a link to that guide?

    • @masterofyeet4438
      @masterofyeet4438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@la28quinn79 there are plenty of guide on yt. Just look it up. I'd say be a bit careful over the long term

    • @mrunixman1579
      @mrunixman1579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I done that as well, anything security related in settings will hang unless you close the app. Other than that Windows seems to work nicely.

    • @sali-ali
      @sali-ali 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@la28quinn79 1. Download Windows 10 using Windows Download tool. Make sure to choose United States, otherwise it doesn't work. 2. Download Windows 11 .iso too, it's available in torrent sites. 3. Open Windows 10 iso with PowerISO, Ultra ISO or other app go to resources delete install.esd file and than replace it with install.wim file from the Windows 11 iso. 4. Burn the modified iso to DVD or USB and install as usual.

  • @kousikadhikary
    @kousikadhikary 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Actually even after I turned on my TPM at the firmware level it gave me the same message. I checked the supported Processor list and my CPU was not on the list. It might be the same for you. It boggles my mind that 6th Gen i3 is not supported yet Celerons are fine. Hope they change this silly thing.

    • @antishulk
      @antishulk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same for me. i hope thiojoe sees the list bc tbh tpm doesn’t matter bc afaik all cpus in that list have it supported whether it be in bios or already enabled, but they should all have it in the cpu itself

    • @kousikadhikary
      @kousikadhikary 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@antishulk He did see list I think during editing.

  • @tairdudeusa7981
    @tairdudeusa7981 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased a Chromebox with an i7 processor, and I see very clearly, I have no need for Micrsoft Windows any longer. I was very pleased to see that they now run most Android apps and connect to my portable hard drives allowing me to access older files. I was a little disappointed to see that they don't work with my CD drives, however I realized I have not touched them in at least 2 years. It is as stable, dependable, and hassle-free as my Android phone and I love it. I was a Windows user since 1998 so it's time to move along.

  • @yigitdurmus2407
    @yigitdurmus2407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can hear my i7 7700 crying while watching this

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Türkiye
      Türkiye

    • @yigitdurmus2407
      @yigitdurmus2407 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ ne y

  • @tacovids
    @tacovids 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Who else built their computer last year and still doesn’t meet the requirements even after doing the bios change

    • @radioheadsex
      @radioheadsex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Krishnansh Agarwal nope

    • @_LGD
      @_LGD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an i5 cpu

    • @xAureliusx
      @xAureliusx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can just add a tpm chip to your board directly with one off Amazon

    • @Germoney2000
      @Germoney2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just switch to LINUX.... I'm so glad I did.

    • @Umri_Muki
      @Umri_Muki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Krishnansh Agarwal yes,you can. You have tpm with your cpu,its probably called ptt or something,and you can upgrade,you will only get a warning during installation cause your cpu is not supported. You can still install and everything will work fine

  • @Diddykonga
    @Diddykonga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So apparently my I7-7700k isnt good enough for Shitsoft, even though its still one of the best processors for the price out there, guess I'll just take the leap to Linux then.

    • @eleventy-seven
      @eleventy-seven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Manjaro, Pop from System76 and Ubuntu (I use Xubuntu although Kubuntu is cool. Manjaro is more up to date but a little lite on help for a newbie. Mint linux is too easy and takes awhile before they adopt new features. With a tiny bit of effort will play almost all games through Steam/Proton Lutris. If you game using Nvidia with RT it is in the new beta driver. Welcome to no more telemetry data spying etc. More security. I use Manjaro with whole disk encryption built in to the OS on the road.

    • @sali-ali
      @sali-ali 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Idk who came with this stupid idea, even my i7 3770 runs all the latest games with 60 fps and renders 4k video super fast but can't run Win 11.

    • @LevenLappi
      @LevenLappi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chances are they'll lower the recommendations back down upon official release, likely the same as it is for Windows 10.
      And if Secure Boot/UEFI is needed, there will be ways to bypass that anyways, since all processors that are 2+ cores will still be supported in later operating systems as per the "minimum requirements."

  • @allthenamesrtook
    @allthenamesrtook 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can avoid the TPM requirement all together. You need to use dism to copy an install.wim to a partition and it will skip the TPM requirement completely.