2018 draft pissed me all the way the f**k off as a Bulls fan. We passed on Mikal Bridges, MPJ, and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander for a dude that's not on the team anymore All after trading Jimmy Butler Thanks GarPax
The Team rushed Lonzo ball, and the team has just been even worse since Lonzo Ball got injured… they could really use Defense, Shooting and a Playmaker, Lonzo brings all of that to the team.
Poor Demar Derozan. From being tortured every year by Lebron To getting jetsoned for someone that led their team to the finals and give Toronto their first chip, and that player ended up dipping on the Raptors. Being stuck in the shadow realm (San Antonio from 2018-2021) and when he finally got in a contending situation it went up in smoke in a year. I just want Deebo to win a chip.
Honestly I think the biggest issue for the Bulls was the injury of Lonzo Ball. The backcourt of Lonzo and Caruso was one of, if not the, best defensive backcourt in the NBA. Pair that with the fact that, among the starters, almost none of them have real playmaking skills, certainly not comparable to Lonzo. Lonzo made sure everybody got their touches, and with a team of Demar and Levine, who naturally play a more isocentric style of offense, having to ability to make mismatches before they even get the ball, or to be a threat from three if the defense gives too much attention to your two primary scorers, things naturally just flowed so much better. Lonzo, much like CP3 in LA, was able to make the most of his otherwise underwhelming center, but following his sidelining from injury the entire team as a whole declined in EVERY aspect. Offense became stagnant, defense became lackluster and shooting regressed heavily. It also seemed like there were more lockeroom issues as a result, more reports of trading players or blowing the team up instead of rebounding to push back next year.
Lonzo's injury hurt the team the most. When Lonzo was playing, the Bulls went 22-13. Before the injury, the Bulls were 27-12, projected to go 57-25, which would have given them the number 1 seed in the Eastern conference.
@@nashyvan6667 It's not so much that they have a bad supporting cast, but without Ball, they didn't really have anybody who was a natural distributor like Ball. Beverly brought that back to an extent, but it wasn't enough. They had a ton of role-players and iso scorers, but who is getting them the ball?
Dont underestimate the loss of Lonzo Ball. Great record, switchable defenders. Lonzo was fuel that made the team good. Hopefully he'll be able to hoop again.
Lonzo won't suddenly stop being one of the most naturally talented players in the league because of the injuries, but he will see a great reduction in what he can actually accomplish individually on that court. If, by some miracle, he returns looking as good as he did for those first 35 games, the Bulls have a chance at being relevant, but the chances of being that guy after getting what is basically a knee replacement is next to impossible.
Whilst the plan failed, the part that hurts most is losing Lonzo. His cheap contract and young age meant we could've held onto him even after Demar and Vooch, and his there isn't one team who wouldn't want someone so selfless. Hope he can get back but recent reports aren't encouraging.
This could go for any team in any draft. But when you're a lottery team, you go for the next franchiser. That's why this Chicago Bulls big 3 is cultureless. How can two players on the SAME team average 25? Hopefully they find a good Point Guard since losing their pick
Being someone who is from the Charlotte Metro area, I always do a little side eye when I hear people worrying about their team becoming one of the worst in the league.
bro they WERE 1st seed half the season healthy they get no credit they sweeped miami this season series and bulls injured they shoulda won play in vs heat but check the ft’s
This team looked great, I remember in the beginning of 2021-22 season of how well they played and they look like they were gonna go in a deep playoff run, but injuries hurled them and Zo being out hunted as well and it crashed badly and they are in a bad spot.
As a chicago fan when we picked up all those guys me and everybody else was hyped we were the number one seed for some time then after lonzo got injured everything went down hill if he was healthy and are main guys stayed healthy majority of the time we could’ve made it to atleast the second round with a slim chance of being in the finals i still got hope for this team ik we gonna bounce back
All I know is that if Lonzo was never injured, this bull’s team would look, feel, and play different. Crazy how a good or great point guard or offensive orchestrator can affect the whole offense.
Tbh, the GM really did a great job constructing the team compare to GarPax. They are number 1 before injuries infested their locker room. Anybody cant control that so I cant blame him.
The bulls are the definition of mid. It sucks, because before Lonzo’s injury, they may not have been among the best teams in the league, but they were very exciting to watch. I really hope Lonzo can get back on the court eventually, whether for the bulls or another team, because he has so much talent that he hasn’t been able to use.
As one of many Bulls fans, I don't know whatever basketball gods the team ticked off after 1998, or if someone put a hex on the franchise since then, but whatever it is, it's been nothing but one disaster/horror story after another, having struggled these last 25 years. Even when they try to get back to respectability and title contention, something always gets in the way and turns everything upside down, and we're back at square one. It hurts. We can never have nice things. I sure hope we can get better again someday. 😥 The fans deserve a heck of a lot better than what we're seeing/going through now. 😥
Yeah, we're the definition of "mid", which is the worst place to be in the NBA. I just wish we could have seen a full year or two of the complete lineup with a healthy Lonzo Ball. He really provided the perimeter defense and 3 point shooting that we needed. We just lacked more rim protection and rebounding. I think the ceiling for that lineup could have been a conference finals appearance. Let's see what AKME do this off-season to retool this roster.
At the start of the season the bulls were going hard, Lonzo was fitting right in with them, then after he got hurt its like they just fell off completely.
The biggest disaster was rushing Lonzo Ball into surgery when he already had a bone bruise. How does a small meniscus tear surgery turn into a career ending injury when the doctor had a timeline of a 6 weeks recovery unless the surgery was botched. Having the surgery on top of a bone bruise resulted in nerve damage. That is the biggest disaster to date and the big elephant in the room that no one is talking about. This is not a Brandon Roy situation. This is a bad surgery. Both Brandon Roy's knees deteriorate from bones rubbing together and it was diagnosed as such. For Lonzo, doctors said his knee was structurally sound. So how do you go from this to end of career?
Also, I think a lot of shade needs to be thrown at Billy Donovan. He seems like a mediocre coach who has little idea what to do with Lavine, Vooch, and Deebo other than let them play hero ball.
Honestly, I don't see why NBA GMs keep going all-in and trading so much to win right now. When was the last time this actually worked? When the Celtics got Garnett and Allen? Honestly can't remember it working since then. Maybe Toronto, if you want to count the Kahwi trade, but I don't think that was really the same thing. The all-in trade strategy just seems to blow up almost every time it's tried.
it is simply painful to see a team as exciting as this one without any top5 superstar being put together. i just hope for the best for each of them and that we can witness them for a whole season
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as a die hard bulls fan all this happened thx to "GarPax" after D. Rose got hurt and they traded Butler things started going spiral downhill asap plus the bulls had a chance of beating the heat in the play in tournament they were up and drummond was doing his thing on defense until the coach changed the rotation!!!!!
It's still Hurts so much it's all Thanks to General Managers of the Chicago Bulls it Could have Drafted some Great Players however it Passed the Draft.
It's sad that Lonzo went out the way he did. They were a great team with his playmaking and defense and this is coming from a Suns fan. Hate to see a team suffer so much because a player gets a freak injury which sidelines him potentially forever.
The Bulls didn't trade for Patrick Beverley until like this video states. He was acquired in the buyout market. Also, the Bulls have their 2024 first round draft pick unlike the video suggests. So many inaccuracies in this video. As somebody who watched a lot of videos from this channel, I'm done with this channel after watching this video.
at 9:49 you were talking about how even with lonzo playing we weren’t that good. we were the 1 seed in the east and were on pace to probably make the conference finals. you then said even when he was healthy all we could do was win a playoff game against the bucks. even though he wasn’t even playing.
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as a bulls fan these trades are awsome i think we very much supassed expectations we wernt ever expected to be a championship contender, getting lonzo was the best thing that could happen very young up coming player then the vet allstar with demar no team rebuilds an entire team and wins in their frist season people need some perspective for how teams work, you NEED TEAM CHEMISTRY to win look at golden state warriors, this years Denver Nuggest look at the three peat lakers no one has ever won with out team chemestry which builds up over 3-4 years
I blame Donovan. A healthy Lonzo, Caruso and a new head coach would put them in the East's top 4 easily. Even without Lonzo in the backcourt, Pat Bev and Caruso should be enough to at least make the playoffs with a competent coaching staff
I mean.. yeah but now that this "Big 3" has played a few seasons together and if Lonzo Ball plays a full healthy season W/ Pat Williams having a breakout year.. signed Torrey Craig and a solid defender (Jevon Carter), Dalen Terry will get more time, and maybe Julian Phillips too, they do got some youth. Along with old Drummond and Caruso too, that's not terrible, and if they're like 7th or 8th in the East at mid season, wouldn't be surprised if they make a trade to go all in, cause yeah future is probably not so bright, so why not?
Lonzo's injury hurt the team the most. When Lonzo was playing, the Bulls went 22-13. Before the injury, the Bulls were 27-12, projected to go 57-25, which would have given them the number 1 seed in the Eastern conference. That's why they should hold off on launching a tactical nuke at their roster. At least until the trade deadline, if the team isn't competing for a postseason appearance, then they should blow it up.
Definitely was rooting for them, but it truly goes to show you that Lonzo really made a difference. When he went down, it’s like that team fell down as well. He’s not the best player on the team, but he to me was the most important player on that team because he was your main facilitator. And when he went down, the Bulls went down. Miss watching him play. I wish Debo was in a better spot to win a ring🙏🏾
Debo plays for the most famous sports franchise on planet earth. He makes more money in endorsements & sponsorships than he would anywhere else. He is happy.
If they had just started Drummond or T.Thompson a long time ago the team could have grown together better, to many defensive lapses can sometimes be demoralizing to a team
They kept refusing to tank. Like whats the point in trying to finish at .500 or below it? No point at all! Now they are stuck in the middle with no way to get up until they have draft picks they can make use of
Poor Chicago Bulls, I feel they been rebuilding since the Last Dance, they’ve been snake bitten by expectations and injuries since the Last Dance, they have so many different front office staff and head coaching changes since the Last Dance, and it’s been almost 30 years since the Last Dance and I don’t think the Bulls are going to win anything until Jerry Reinsdorf dies, but his family will take over, or if they sell the team after his death, until then, the Chicago Bulls can only remember the dynasty days of the 1990s
I think you were kind unfair with Zach in certain points of the video. After Vucevic come, he lose many games for COVID protocols. In 2021-22, he get injured at the same game as Lonzo and played half season with a bad knee. Started 22-23 coming off a surgery, that was why he started slowly and get better after.
"if Ball was healthy, the Bulls still weren't that good. The best they could do is win a first round playoff series..." Some wild conjecture here. Ball literally went down in January. This alleged round 1 exit is at best a guesstimate. We literally will never know. That year they beat NO top teams. 2022, they beat ALL the top teams. Do I think they are championship bound? No. Do I think they stand a full 7 games series against any active team minus maybe the nuggets? Yea.
From when derozen, lavine and vucevic trio is considered championship material? I am suprised. I see them as what Charles Barkley called studio warriors - empty stats on weak or mediocre teams.
3:07 this is a totally unfair point. He didn’t become most improved and an all star until season. He was stagnant after being traded to Cleveland. There’s no such thing as “2nd rate all star” and the benchmark for good trades never was “top 10 player in the league”. Those were very very good trades up to that point. They had a 15 win turnaround different in that single season. What more do you want them to do or him to do in his first major trading period?
i get the other dudes but to call linzo ball one the best defenders bulls have is like saying the orlando magic will wing ring shit aint true and plus the dude never to this day played a full season
As a Bulls fan I can't expect much from them maybe in a few years from now they will get better. Reinsdorf is cheap and the Bulls need a new owner if only Lonzo Ball didn't get hurt the Bulls wouldn't have been so bad and might have made the playoffs
as good a defender as beverley can be, he aint no playmaker. the bulls had to play for 1.5 season without a single starting or near starting lvl point guard.
It all would have been different if Ball stayed healthy imo. Like the video said, I hope the Bulls recognize how much things improved with Beverley. In other words.... we need a solid PG or this offense really doesnt work.
I honestly thought this Bulls team would be a great team. They had everything in place and had a good balance of talent and depth. But everything that went wrong did go wrong.
bulls fan here... I really thought we had it. We were the number one seed in the east for a time in the 2021 season, then ball went down. Obviously we didnt understand how bad the injury was at the time so I thought we still had it, we fell off bad. Finshed with the 6 seed, I kinda knew we werent beating the bucks, but then going into the 2022-23 season I thought we were going to be the team that it finally happened
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2018 draft pissed me all the way the f**k off as a Bulls fan.
We passed on Mikal Bridges, MPJ, and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander for a dude that's not on the team anymore
All after trading Jimmy Butler
Thanks GarPax
+WCJ arguably has the best contract in the league rn lol
@@ch.illmatic Would you rather have Wendell Carter Junior or Mikal/Shai/MPJ?
@@ch.illmatic shai made all nba 1st what are you smoking
Its easy to know the lottery numbers after results
The Team rushed Lonzo ball, and the team has just been even worse since Lonzo Ball got injured… they could really use Defense, Shooting and a Playmaker, Lonzo brings all of that to the team.
Poor Demar Derozan. From being tortured every year by Lebron To getting jetsoned for someone that led their team to the finals and give Toronto their first chip, and that player ended up dipping on the Raptors. Being stuck in the shadow realm (San Antonio from 2018-2021) and when he finally got in a contending situation it went up in smoke in a year. I just want Deebo to win a chip.
He's never gonna win being a 1to 4 option
Y u do San Antonio like that😂
The Bulls have been way more of shadow realm in the 21st century than San Antonio! 😂
Me 2 bro
@@tremiller3988 what are u talkin about u can win a championship with him being a 3 or maybe even a number 2 option
Honestly I think the biggest issue for the Bulls was the injury of Lonzo Ball. The backcourt of Lonzo and Caruso was one of, if not the, best defensive backcourt in the NBA. Pair that with the fact that, among the starters, almost none of them have real playmaking skills, certainly not comparable to Lonzo. Lonzo made sure everybody got their touches, and with a team of Demar and Levine, who naturally play a more isocentric style of offense, having to ability to make mismatches before they even get the ball, or to be a threat from three if the defense gives too much attention to your two primary scorers, things naturally just flowed so much better. Lonzo, much like CP3 in LA, was able to make the most of his otherwise underwhelming center, but following his sidelining from injury the entire team as a whole declined in EVERY aspect. Offense became stagnant, defense became lackluster and shooting regressed heavily. It also seemed like there were more lockeroom issues as a result, more reports of trading players or blowing the team up instead of rebounding to push back next year.
damn
I feel like you nailed a lot of the core issue which makes this offseason even more difficult
Lonzo's injury hurt the team the most. When Lonzo was playing, the Bulls went 22-13.
Before the injury, the Bulls were 27-12, projected to go 57-25, which would have given them the number 1 seed in the Eastern conference.
Exactly my guy people forget that they were dangerous before his injury but this guy also has a point that they have a bad supporting cast
@@nashyvan6667 It's not so much that they have a bad supporting cast, but without Ball, they didn't really have anybody who was a natural distributor like Ball. Beverly brought that back to an extent, but it wasn't enough. They had a ton of role-players and iso scorers, but who is getting them the ball?
Dont underestimate the loss of Lonzo Ball. Great record, switchable defenders. Lonzo was fuel that made the team good.
Hopefully he'll be able to hoop again.
Lonzo won't suddenly stop being one of the most naturally talented players in the league because of the injuries, but he will see a great reduction in what he can actually accomplish individually on that court.
If, by some miracle, he returns looking as good as he did for those first 35 games, the Bulls have a chance at being relevant, but the chances of being that guy after getting what is basically a knee replacement is next to impossible.
The fact that the bulls future rest on Lonzo, just shows how trash the bulls is smfh
@@jeju6892I agree with u, he just gets hurt to much. he is a liability.
As a bulls fan, this hurts so bad 😢 hopefully we get better over the next few seasons
i feel you brother
Same
We will bro we will
Hopefully
Imagine being a Knick fan tho
Whilst the plan failed, the part that hurts most is losing Lonzo. His cheap contract and young age meant we could've held onto him even after Demar and Vooch, and his there isn't one team who wouldn't want someone so selfless. Hope he can get back but recent reports aren't encouraging.
It’s dope to see DeMar having his best seasons so far at this age, yes it sucks they’re not winning but good to see he’s still bangin.
2:30 just because Bulls traded that pick doesnt mean we would’ve drafted Franz Wagner
This could go for any team in any draft. But when you're a lottery team, you go for the next franchiser. That's why this Chicago Bulls big 3 is cultureless. How can two players on the SAME team average 25? Hopefully they find a good Point Guard since losing their pick
The statement is fairly factual?? Just explaining the opportunity cost really ...
Being someone who is from the Charlotte Metro area, I always do a little side eye when I hear people worrying about their team becoming one of the worst in the league.
Jordan is the goat but he is not a good owner
@@jerryhicks4502 facts. All respect due to the legend but man DAYUM 😂
Can't argue with that.
I really do think that if Caruso and lonzo could stay healthy for a longer period of the season,this team is a top 4 seed in the east.
bro they WERE 1st seed half the season healthy they get no credit they sweeped miami this season series and bulls injured they shoulda won play in vs heat but check the ft’s
bulls should be in finals they dominated the heat this season and heat got lucky play ins
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I feel bad for derozan man. Dude just can't catch a break.
He can't win as a lead man
@@tremiller3988They had the number 1 seed last season before Lonzo got injured
This team looked great, I remember in the beginning of 2021-22 season of how well they played and they look like they were gonna go in a deep playoff run, but injuries hurled them and Zo being out hunted as well and it crashed badly and they are in a bad spot.
Being a bulls fan, this hurts badly..
Nah y'all had mj like 30 years ago
@@jayus2033 I’m a bulls fan so I don’t really care because of our history.
@@jayus2033 yea 30 years ago 💀
Very fun fact: Demar and Zach are the first Bulls duo to average 24+ PPG in the same season since.... NO ONE. Yep. And they did it in two seasons.
thats why just scoring doesnt relate to wins lol
Kyrie and Lebron? Curry and Durant?Tatum and Brown? Shall i go on?
@@Joker-jz9cn I don't know what you're trying to say, I just said a really bizarre fact.
As a chicago fan when we picked up all those guys me and everybody else was hyped we were the number one seed for some time then after lonzo got injured everything went down hill if he was healthy and are main guys stayed healthy majority of the time we could’ve made it to atleast the second round with a slim chance of being in the finals i still got hope for this team ik we gonna bounce back
Uhh bulls are one of the healthiest teams in the nba over the past two yrs lmao
I'm a raptors fan and I miss Demar. I was hoping he could win a championship with the bulls but they've been pretty disappointing so far
@wlndbeach yes I know they would never have won with demar as the number one guy but I still wish it could have been done
All I know is that if Lonzo was never injured, this bull’s team would look, feel, and play different.
Crazy how a good or great point guard or offensive orchestrator can affect the whole offense.
Tbh, the GM really did a great job constructing the team compare to GarPax. They are number 1 before injuries infested their locker room. Anybody cant control that so I cant blame him.
Just less than two years ago, the Bulls were the most fun team to watch with people predicting them to go to the ECF. Sigh.
We just can’t keep anyone in Chicago. It’s really telling that in 2020 onwards you still hear MVP chants here for DRose
The bulls are the definition of mid. It sucks, because before Lonzo’s injury, they may not have been among the best teams in the league, but they were very exciting to watch. I really hope Lonzo can get back on the court eventually, whether for the bulls or another team, because he has so much talent that he hasn’t been able to use.
It was a great gamble with the trades Injuries just got them deronzan was mvp candidate it was a great move in my opinion
This hurts so much
Sorry, brother.
At least the Blackhawks have the #1 overall pick. I look forward to that.
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@@TrevorD19 watch them not draft Bedard
The loss of Ball hurt because not only was Ball one of our best defenders, he was also the best 3 point shooter on the team.
As one of many Bulls fans, I don't know whatever basketball gods the team ticked off after 1998, or if someone put a hex on the franchise since then, but whatever it is, it's been nothing but one disaster/horror story after another, having struggled these last 25 years. Even when they try to get back to respectability and title contention, something always gets in the way and turns everything upside down, and we're back at square one. It hurts. We can never have nice things. I sure hope we can get better again someday. 😥 The fans deserve a heck of a lot better than what we're seeing/going through now. 😥
Uhh, are you aware of who owns the Chicago Bulls..? 😳
Yeah, we're the definition of "mid", which is the worst place to be in the NBA. I just wish we could have seen a full year or two of the complete lineup with a healthy Lonzo Ball. He really provided the perimeter defense and 3 point shooting that we needed. We just lacked more rim protection and rebounding. I think the ceiling for that lineup could have been a conference finals appearance. Let's see what AKME do this off-season to retool this roster.
The saddest part is Lonzo I hope he can get back
At the start of the season the bulls were going hard, Lonzo was fitting right in with them, then after he got hurt its like they just fell off completely.
The biggest disaster was rushing Lonzo Ball into surgery when he already had a bone bruise. How does a small meniscus tear surgery turn into a career ending injury when the doctor had a timeline of a 6 weeks recovery unless the surgery was botched. Having the surgery on top of a bone bruise resulted in nerve damage. That is the biggest disaster to date and the big elephant in the room that no one is talking about. This is not a Brandon Roy situation. This is a bad surgery. Both Brandon Roy's knees deteriorate from bones rubbing together and it was diagnosed as such. For Lonzo, doctors said his knee was structurally sound. So how do you go from this to end of career?
It’s always a problem when at least 2 out of 3 star trio aren’t great to elite defenders
Also, I think a lot of shade needs to be thrown at Billy Donovan. He seems like a mediocre coach who has little idea what to do with Lavine, Vooch, and Deebo other than let them play hero ball.
Agree, the Bulls should hire Nick Nurse for the next season
They Need To rebuild trade Demar And Zach For Mika’s and someone else they need to rebuild
Hell no we don't need to trade them
@@ItsPascha naw trade DeRozan for depth around Zach and Vooch and sign Wood
@@ItsPascha then have fun being an 8 seed for years. Demar and Zach ain't it
Do you think Zach Lavine can one day be in Michael Jordan level? He has the same height 6'6 / 6'5 and he has the speed and jumping ability
Small correction at 2:00 mark; Marc Eversley is the Bulls' GM, while AK is the Executive VP of Basketball Ops
Since Rondo got injured after the 2-0 against Boston in the 2017 playoffs...
no one thought that bulls big 3 was a real contender lol, deep playoff run maybe but not actual contender
Saw it as manybe a second round team
I was so damn excited about the future after we were the number 1 seed at all star break 😭
Honestly, I don't see why NBA GMs keep going all-in and trading so much to win right now. When was the last time this actually worked? When the Celtics got Garnett and Allen? Honestly can't remember it working since then. Maybe Toronto, if you want to count the Kahwi trade, but I don't think that was really the same thing.
The all-in trade strategy just seems to blow up almost every time it's tried.
They are gonna have to start a rebuild rn
You should do the same type of video on the Washington Wizards
it is simply painful to see a team as exciting as this one without any top5 superstar being put together. i just hope for the best for each of them and that we can witness them for a whole season
How are they “exciting”..?
@@marcbasil they have no obvious mega star and still shook up the league. where you excited in the past 5 years about any other team?
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mid players, low expectations, how come is it a disaster? performed as expected.
I'm a Chicago Bulls fan I've Just want the Bulls to get Better every Season and try not to make these Mistakes.
And it’s looking like Lonzo’s never gonna play again.
as a die hard bulls fan all this happened thx to "GarPax" after D. Rose got hurt and they traded Butler things started going spiral downhill asap plus the bulls had a chance of beating the heat in the play in tournament they were up and drummond was doing his thing on defense until the coach changed the rotation!!!!!
The problem is Derozan. Too much ISO ball, ruins the flow of the offense.
w lonzo ball they were n1 seed, so at least eastern conference finals. not 1 playoff series
Love your video, Nonstop, and keep up the great work
It's still Hurts so much it's all Thanks to General Managers of the Chicago Bulls it Could have Drafted some Great Players however it Passed the Draft.
It's sad that Lonzo went out the way he did. They were a great team with his playmaking and defense and this is coming from a Suns fan. Hate to see a team suffer so much because a player gets a freak injury which sidelines him potentially forever.
at the end they didnt trade no one, they will try to win like this, only 1 team wins.
DeMar and Lavine are great. But the Bulls should have kept Jimmy. Look at where Jimmy is and where the Twolves, Bulls and 6ers are rn
The Bulls didn't trade for Patrick Beverley until like this video states. He was acquired in the buyout market. Also, the Bulls have their 2024 first round draft pick unlike the video suggests. So many inaccuracies in this video. As somebody who watched a lot of videos from this channel, I'm done with this channel after watching this video.
Anyone here after the Bulls won the Finals in 2024?
Crazy how things can change in a year...
I hear Aerosmith's song here 😂
Have faith 😢
It’s not easy being a Chicago fan but I do have hope for the future
Bulls and injuries, I can't hear it anymore. It's just so unfortunate.
at 9:49 you were talking about how even with lonzo playing we weren’t that good. we were the 1 seed in the east and were on pace to probably make the conference finals. you then said even when he was healthy all we could do was win a playoff game against the bucks. even though he wasn’t even playing.
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Please. I’m begging you PLEASE do one of these for the Wizards
as a bulls fan these trades are awsome i think we very much supassed expectations we wernt ever expected to be a championship contender, getting lonzo was the best thing that could happen very young up coming player then the vet allstar with demar no team rebuilds an entire team and wins in their frist season people need some perspective for how teams work, you NEED TEAM CHEMISTRY to win look at golden state warriors, this years Denver Nuggest look at the three peat lakers no one has ever won with out team chemestry which builds up over 3-4 years
More videos like his about teams and their situation please.
I blame Donovan. A healthy Lonzo, Caruso and a new head coach would put them in the East's top 4 easily. Even without Lonzo in the backcourt, Pat Bev and Caruso should be enough to at least make the playoffs with a competent coaching staff
Nick Nurse should be hired for the next season
the team who lost in 2022 didnt had lonzo ball, so it wasnt the same in 2023
I mean.. yeah but now that this "Big 3" has played a few seasons together and if Lonzo Ball plays a full healthy season W/ Pat Williams having a breakout year.. signed Torrey Craig and a solid defender (Jevon Carter), Dalen Terry will get more time, and maybe Julian Phillips too, they do got some youth.
Along with old Drummond and Caruso too, that's not terrible, and if they're like 7th or 8th in the East at mid season, wouldn't be surprised if they make a trade to go all in, cause yeah future is probably not so bright, so why not?
Ball will never play again
Chicago bulls comeback stronger next season i believe that as a chicago bulls fan
Lonzo's injury hurt the team the most. When Lonzo was playing, the Bulls went 22-13.
Before the injury, the Bulls were 27-12, projected to go 57-25, which would have given them the number 1 seed in the Eastern conference.
That's why they should hold off on launching a tactical nuke at their roster. At least until the trade deadline, if the team isn't competing for a postseason appearance, then they should blow it up.
The net rating is basically neutral with “the big 3”. Unless you are getting a Lonzo clone this doesn’t make much sense.
Definitely was rooting for them, but it truly goes to show you that Lonzo really made a difference. When he went down, it’s like that team fell down as well. He’s not the best player on the team, but he to me was the most important player on that team because he was your main facilitator. And when he went down, the Bulls went down. Miss watching him play. I wish Debo was in a better spot to win a ring🙏🏾
Debo plays for the most famous sports franchise on planet earth. He makes more money in endorsements & sponsorships than he would anywhere else. He is happy.
I can't believe this right now 😔😔😔😔
i like the part where he said championship window 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don’t blame arturas karnishovas, he’s imo a phenomenal GM, the team just fell apart with injuries and other factors.
LOL injuries..? They were one of the healthiest teams in the league over the past two years
If they had just started Drummond or T.Thompson a long time ago the team could have grown together better, to many defensive lapses can sometimes be demoralizing to a team
the superstars have to be either way talented offensively with top playmaking skills or outstanding defenders none of the three are that
They kept refusing to tank. Like whats the point in trying to finish at .500 or below it? No point at all! Now they are stuck in the middle with no way to get up until they have draft picks they can make use of
Uhh, wut? What’re you ttalking about?
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i mean 28 ppg from 2s or 3s is the same
Poor Chicago Bulls, I feel they been rebuilding since the Last Dance, they’ve been snake bitten by expectations and injuries since the Last Dance, they have so many different front office staff and head coaching changes since the Last Dance, and it’s been almost 30 years since the Last Dance and I don’t think the Bulls are going to win anything until Jerry Reinsdorf dies, but his family will take over, or if they sell the team after his death, until then, the Chicago Bulls can only remember the dynasty days of the 1990s
I think you were kind unfair with Zach in certain points of the video. After Vucevic come, he lose many games for COVID protocols. In 2021-22, he get injured at the same game as Lonzo and played half season with a bad knee. Started 22-23 coming off a surgery, that was why he started slowly and get better after.
Injuries make team worst there's nothing to blame with just injuries
"if Ball was healthy, the Bulls still weren't that good. The best they could do is win a first round playoff series..."
Some wild conjecture here. Ball literally went down in January. This alleged round 1 exit is at best a guesstimate.
We literally will never know. That year they beat NO top teams. 2022, they beat ALL the top teams.
Do I think they are championship bound? No. Do I think they stand a full 7 games series against any active team minus maybe the nuggets? Yea.
Poor Chicago Bulls I hope That They're Gonna Be Great Again
Damn we are cooooked next year
90s bulls still the greatest super team ever assembled.
As a bulls fan it really doesn’t matter if they doing bad or good but they just need to win
I hate it broooo, we were the first seed…
Without Jordan the bulls will never win another championship
From when derozen, lavine and vucevic trio is considered championship material? I am suprised. I see them as what Charles Barkley called studio warriors - empty stats on weak or mediocre teams.
3:07 this is a totally unfair point. He didn’t become most improved and an all star until season. He was stagnant after being traded to Cleveland. There’s no such thing as “2nd rate all star” and the benchmark for good trades never was “top 10 player in the league”. Those were very very good trades up to that point. They had a 15 win turnaround different in that single season. What more do you want them to do or him to do in his first major trading period?
Great video
i get the other dudes but to call linzo ball one the best defenders bulls have is like saying the orlando magic will wing ring shit aint true and plus the dude never to this day played a full season
As a Bulls fan I can't expect much from them maybe in a few years from now they will get better. Reinsdorf is cheap and the Bulls need a new owner if only Lonzo Ball didn't get hurt the Bulls wouldn't have been so bad and might have made the playoffs
as good a defender as beverley can be, he aint no playmaker. the bulls had to play for 1.5 season without a single starting or near starting lvl point guard.
didnt mean to be this early for a nonstop treat
Jaylen Brown your next video Nonstop 🔥🔥🔥
It all would have been different if Ball stayed healthy imo. Like the video said, I hope the Bulls recognize how much things improved with Beverley. In other words.... we need a solid PG or this offense really doesnt work.
Bulls roster is balanced, offense and defense, but they’re mid, they are not spectacular, neither bad
You’re joking..? This is irony?
I honestly thought this Bulls team would be a great team. They had everything in place and had a good balance of talent and depth. But everything that went wrong did go wrong.
As a bulls fan this hurts to watch
bulls fan here... I really thought we had it. We were the number one seed in the east for a time in the 2021 season, then ball went down. Obviously we didnt understand how bad the injury was at the time so I thought we still had it, we fell off bad. Finshed with the 6 seed, I kinda knew we werent beating the bucks, but then going into the 2022-23 season I thought we were going to be the team that it finally happened
And..?
Yeh - it's all about stacking their teams but it's a gamble with chemistry. Look at the Nets.
The bulls should trade lavine to the heat for herro & either Lowry or Duncan Robinson & a few picks ? Lol