Dont forget that you can buy alpine tiger for 8k bonds and its one of the most expensive tank so when exchanging you get a nice discount in gold (only available on tier 8 tanks tho) you can get elc for 300 golds for example
im doing the trick where i buy alpine tiger for 8k bonds and trade it in for CS lis so i only pay 1.2k gold, as someone who never buys lootboxes its a great deal
was thinking about trading mine away. the gun is just too troll and it doesn't feel worth investing the credits into firing full gold when I could just do that in my borat.
I agree the Hawk 30 is a good tank, but if there is only one light on each team you'll be up against an ELC which means you're fucked most the time because if you try and hunt it you'll die cause you're huge in comparison and they'll just auto lock you, while you get "armour not hit!"
Last time i traded leKpz M 41 90 mm( gray dog) as i had the black dog as well. In the last boxes i got back the tank :), careful what you trade and if it is worth it.
It just depends on what playstyle you would like. 274a is faster than 122, so it's better for brawling. 122 is very slow, feels like a heavy tank, slow to relocate. Better for sniping or peaking. Regarding armor, both tanks will not bounce anything over 200 pen
@@Asky_ I agree. It funny, because I played the 274a as aa rental and it felt so slow. And the gun handling is trash. 122 has bad dpm, but way better gun handling. 122TM doesn't feel that slow too me personally. I don't think the 274a is much faster. Somehow 122TM just works for me most of the time despite shitty dpm.
122tm is rock solid, even in tier 10 matchmaking. Better 3 safe pen shots per Minute than 6 times bounce/miss/bounce. The dpm of 122tm is real, other tanks just have higher dpm on the paper. Its so relaxing to play, go for it
Put bond turbo, rammer and vents on 122tm, use food and a good. The tank becomes one of the best t8 mediums, completely crushing outdated tanks like sta2, panther 8,8, t54 prot and many more.
Between: 1. Strv S1 2.WZ-120-1G FT 3. Object 703 Version II 4. Lowe I can't decide. But I don't have any t8 heavy premium tanks in my garage, and from TDs, I have Skorpion, which I hate, because of no camo.
I have never done trades even when they started doing it. Over the last few years they always do trades before a loot box event. Always feels like they set it up that way to put tanks you just dumped in the boxes.
Hello. Is it possible to buy Alpine Tiger in the bond store for 8000 and trade it in right after buying without playing a single battle with it for another tank, like the 703-II?
If there´s something interesting in the trade-in, I buy Alpine for bonds and trade it paying a bit of gold... I achieved Kampfpanzer 07 RH and lansen C in two of my accounts and I hope to see T-44-100 another time to pick up for my main account
i use it as an aggressive spotter on a ridgeline, making full abuse of the 15 degrees of gundepression and the close to 500 meters view range with optics
As the other comment said, remove 703 from your rentals and it will appear in shop for trade in, even if the rental is expired you still cant buy it till you remove the rental
im debating giving up my lowe for elc, im paying only 300 diff. Lowe just is not competitive, and i also need a good light for campaign. i think ill do it.
A little suggestion, sir, for video content like this: it would be better if each tank being explained, whether very good or very bad, is accompanied by a short video clip :) . I apologize in advance and thank you."
Overall a good review, but the focus on bonds vs gold, and tier 8 credit printer vs tier 7 and 6 is unfortunate. whether someone wants to spend bonds or gold is immaterial. Just focus on the tank. And whether they print credits better or worse is not the sole factor and should not detract from the qualities of the tank. like the Pudel for example. To me it would be a plus that I can get a VK in premium form. I can put a high skill crew in it without any trouble of retraining or spending crew books, and I can sell the tech tree one for some much needed silver. And I'd rather spend my bonds on bond equip or truly rare tanks instead of tanks I can buy for gold.
honestly, the t34-85m is far better tier for tier, so you can get more exp out of it than the 274a, while also not having to worry about crew skills that much since tier 6 is very forgiving
Believe it or not I have much higher winrate on T92 than on ELC even though ELC has bond equipment. And I believe it is not about tank but more about WG's match making.
i cant see the elc even 90, in the trade in... i am just interested in the elc and the wz 120, as a f2p the wz is too expensive (for the 1500 i have in my account from competitions) even with the trade-in.
Are different tanks available in Europe server than US. I don't have T34-85M or the T78 in my list on North American server. Only 39 tanks total available.
Haven't done this before...seems the list changes depending on which premium I trade in...that seems odd. To see the T34 and T78 I have to trade a tank that I don't want to give up.
I have been stung one too many times to ever purchase another premium tank. Owning a grand final version and then being awarded with the non grand final tank in a loot box was the last straw for me. In my opinion War Gaming just lost regular money from me for the short term profit.
Bad problem is all the tanks WG adds that are copy paste, same as ones you already have just different style so now you have to own the same tank multiple times to keep from getting them in the loot box's. WG knows what they are doing and how it screws us by doing it
Ive visited trade in and i was like... No new premium additions to trade? Then i forgot i have like 120 premium tanks so new ones was not visible for me xd
Yeah, I don't trade them in as it is win win for WG. They get you to spend half credit, throw the top returned vehicles into the next lootbox batch of tanks, and they'll reskin some of the others to lower your chances to get the new tank.
am a F2P player. What I am thinking of is buying an IS-6 from the bond store and trading it in for an ELC EVEN 90, which I heard is very good but never played it in my life.
I traded the TS-5 (slow and peeps just spam gold at you) for the WZ-120-1G FT (faster and better camo) and am massively impressed. I feel like an olympic sprinter with a boom stick!
@@1000RedDog0001 Tausche diesen gegen den Kanonenjagtpanzer 105. Schnell genau aber aus Papier , aber mir egal . Wichtig für mich war die genaue Kanone.
I would ratler compare T77 to AMX 50B, than T57. T57 is lose range dpm monster with mediocre speed. T77 is fast heavy with bad DPM. Plastyle is more comparable with 50B in my opinion.
My two cents: Hwk 30 is actually strong and extremely fun to play. Lowe might be worth it too. 122 TM is good, but you can also just get the T-34-3 for bonds. Yes, there are differences, but you have a similar play style where you have to play off your aplha.
Awful as they are, I am not prepared to get rid of my old premiums. I would much rather Wargaming would buff the old crap to make it somewhat competetive again, or better still, nerf the overpowered meta crap. THAT would be the fair thing to do.
*How dare you shit talk my beautiful AMX Cda 105!* It is my favorite tank. I have 2k battles in it and I 3-marked it. I love the game play so much! It is the best tank.
I have the exact amount of gold to get the burrasque(giving a alpine tiger bought for bonds) guess i’ll wait for the next one hoping they’ll put it in the tank list
@@unicucumber just kidding, its awesome as long as you trade in tanks that you can buy later for bonds! I did it with Liberte so i got Lis and french heavy for 1450 gold and 8000 bonds ;)
But skiiillll I definitly not agree with you with T-27 ! How can do you compare t-27 with a progetto... Do you compare a T-50 with a standard b ? No, not the same gameplay at all ! T-27 is a T-50 at tier 8.
Dont forget that you can buy alpine tiger for 8k bonds and its one of the most expensive tank so when exchanging you get a nice discount in gold (only available on tier 8 tanks tho) you can get elc for 300 golds for example
The alpine is worth 5500 gold think ?
Yep, it work, and sadly I'm missing 250 gold for LIS :(
Thanks for this comment my guy!
I traded Liberte for CS-52 LIS
@@Rsafdyk ingame name snd server?
im doing the trick where i buy alpine tiger for 8k bonds and trade it in for CS lis so i only pay 1.2k gold, as someone who never buys lootboxes its a great deal
I did exactly the same
should i get the obj.274 or the lis?
astron rex hidden gem but remember you have to spam gold "right left and center" (even worst cause is autoloader)
Yep and the gun is trollish, but I love this tank.
was thinking about trading mine away. the gun is just too troll and it doesn't feel worth investing the credits into firing full gold when I could just do that in my borat.
Can you make credits with premium shells?
@@martinma9724 i dont know sorry, i never shoot gold in autoloder, but i guess u cant
18:26 T78 actually has better bloom than the Hellcat, but it's slightly less accurate
Thank you Skill was waiting for this
I traded the 56TP for the Lis. I'm extremely happy with it.
liberte also has 232 pen so it is good for making money.
But the shell is 4x/3x more expensive than the patriot.
I personally didn't get on with it, traded ( got it via bonds) it in for the GSOR 1008
@@robertlocock5636 any tank that can be bought for bonds, is worth trading, since you can reaquire the bond tank once you gained enough
@@robertlocock5636 How much gold did you have to pay on top?
alt proto amx 30 gun handling is amazingly good...not sure when you last played it, but it never misses anymore...
Play another 50 games and you will see.
Saw em couple games today and dusted in 2 seconds after being spotted.
For me the gun miss to much even with improve gun aiming
Skill im drinking juice right now
Ooo, news I can use.
This is the most interesting information I have ever seen. Good for you for drinking juice
Try fermented grape juice instead
Hello boss can i ask?how can my friend get his account.he didnt change email. Old account using yahoo email add.thanks
It would be nice if we could trade in 2 for 1
Yes but WG doesn't get you to spend (any/as much) gold that way, so, no.
Seems this time tanks are more expensive, last time prices was lower? Or im wrong?
I don't think so
I agree the Hawk 30 is a good tank, but if there is only one light on each team you'll be up against an ELC which means you're fucked most the time because if you try and hunt it you'll die cause you're huge in comparison and they'll just auto lock you, while you get "armour not hit!"
ELC truly destroyed Tier 8 light tank. Only one I found somewhat of a success against ELC is the LT
112 is a good tank for myself never struggle with it, thank you for the review Skeeeel
Last time i traded leKpz M 41 90 mm( gray dog) as i had the black dog as well. In the last boxes i got back the tank :), careful what you trade and if it is worth it.
I'm stuck between 122tm or 274a. I love the gun of 122tm but the DPM is killing it, 274a has bad gun handling but good DPM. idk what to choose lol
122tm imo
It just depends on what playstyle you would like. 274a is faster than 122, so it's better for brawling. 122 is very slow, feels like a heavy tank, slow to relocate. Better for sniping or peaking. Regarding armor, both tanks will not bounce anything over 200 pen
@@Asky_ I agree. It funny, because I played the 274a as aa rental and it felt so slow. And the gun handling is trash. 122 has bad dpm, but way better gun handling.
122TM doesn't feel that slow too me personally. I don't think the 274a is much faster. Somehow 122TM just works for me most of the time despite shitty dpm.
122tm is rock solid, even in tier 10 matchmaking. Better 3 safe pen shots per Minute than 6 times bounce/miss/bounce. The dpm of 122tm is real, other tanks just have higher dpm on the paper. Its so relaxing to play, go for it
Put bond turbo, rammer and vents on 122tm, use food and a good. The tank becomes one of the best t8 mediums, completely crushing outdated tanks like sta2, panther 8,8, t54 prot and many more.
Between:
1. Strv S1
2.WZ-120-1G FT
3. Object 703 Version II
4. Lowe
I can't decide. But I don't have any t8 heavy premium tanks in my garage, and from TDs, I have Skorpion, which I hate, because of no camo.
I just trade in for the Altproto AMX 30. ❤ i love the tankie 😊
I have never done trades even when they started doing it. Over the last few years they always do trades before a loot box event. Always feels like they set it up that way to put tanks you just dumped in the boxes.
Strv m42 is a very nice tank with high DMG rounds. AP Amx30 is also very very nice - fast, good gun handling if you aim in, spot ability,..
i traded in alpine tiger for Bisonte, which over the course of the last month has quickly become my favorite tank in the game
love trade ins
Hello. Is it possible to buy Alpine Tiger in the bond store for 8000 and trade it in right after buying without playing a single battle with it for another tank, like the 703-II?
yeah, I did it last time
Yep, did it for ELC previous time. WOT site has an interactive trade-in explainer, try doing it there to be sure.
Yep. That's how I got my Even 90. Best trade ever.
Thank you guys! 😊
If there´s something interesting in the trade-in, I buy Alpine for bonds and trade it paying a bit of gold... I achieved Kampfpanzer 07 RH and lansen C in two of my accounts and I hope to see T-44-100 another time to pick up for my main account
just got the even 90, looking forward to play with it
Much fun! Hide in the smallest bushes. 😂
The Dicker Max would perform much better as a support TD than a sniper TD. Although there's time to be a support TD and other times a sniper TD.
i use it as an aggressive spotter on a ridgeline, making full abuse of the 15 degrees of gundepression and the close to 500 meters view range with optics
0:00 Good Morning sir, im ready for my dose, lets go!
I'm not sure but not all of the tank shows up on my trade up shop
Anyone else having problems locating the Obj. 703 II in the trade-in store? What am I missing? I see other heavies, even the Obj 274a...
You probably have 703 as a rental tank in this case (you can't trade it until you play x battles with it or the rent expires).
@@krzysztofgola9715 This was the issue, thanks
As the other comment said, remove 703 from your rentals and it will appear in shop for trade in, even if the rental is expired you still cant buy it till you remove the rental
very love of this information, salute babon !!!
I JUST got the elc even 90
WG does these types of revolving sales and events all the time. always wait for better opportunities with WG
im debating giving up my lowe for elc, im paying only 300 diff. Lowe just is not competitive, and i also need a good light for campaign. i think ill do it.
Elc is sick.
I had a game in the elc on redshire recently- top gun, high caliber, 0 spotting damage 🤣
If you have 8k bons I think you can buy alpine tiger and then add like 300 gold to get elc idk it should work like that many people said that 😅
Never Trrade in a tier8 premium unless you want to pick it again in next lootboxes hahahaha
A little suggestion, sir, for video content like this: it would be better if each tank being explained, whether very good or very bad, is accompanied by a short video clip :) . I apologize in advance and thank you."
Overall a good review, but the focus on bonds vs gold, and tier 8 credit printer vs tier 7 and 6 is unfortunate. whether someone wants to spend bonds or gold is immaterial. Just focus on the tank. And whether they print credits better or worse is not the sole factor and should not detract from the qualities of the tank. like the Pudel for example. To me it would be a plus that I can get a VK in premium form. I can put a high skill crew in it without any trouble of retraining or spending crew books, and I can sell the tech tree one for some much needed silver. And I'd rather spend my bonds on bond equip or truly rare tanks instead of tanks I can buy for gold.
I want a tank to earn credits and to have fun but I can't decide. I'm thinking about the 122 TM and the LIS
Probably going for 274a since it cantrain my crews for the soviet mediums i willl be going for soon
honestly, the t34-85m is far better tier for tier, so you can get more exp out of it than the 274a, while also not having to worry about crew skills that much since tier 6 is very forgiving
Believe it or not I have much higher winrate on T92 than on ELC even though ELC has bond equipment. And I believe it is not about tank but more about WG's match making.
i cant see the elc even 90, in the trade in...
i am just interested in the elc and the wz 120, as a f2p
the wz is too expensive (for the 1500 i have in my account from competitions) even with the trade-in.
Love your vids skill
i`m waiting for borrasque for so long .. still they don`t wanna put anyware
So i have a question is it worth it to trade in super chaffe for cs 52 lis ?
Get apline tiger for 8000 bonds, it will cost you only 1200 gold. I also did🙂
Did you get lis in last trade event or before?
@@Kaxigt This trade event. And you can buy alpine tiger again, after the trade.
I was praying for the Obsidian. I still have fomo. I missed the PvE event
Are different tanks available in Europe server than US. I don't have T34-85M or the T78 in my list on North American server. Only 39 tanks total available.
Haven't done this before...seems the list changes depending on which premium I trade in...that seems odd. To see the T34 and T78 I have to trade a tank that I don't want to give up.
I have been stung one too many times to ever purchase another premium tank. Owning a grand final version and then being awarded with the non grand final tank in a loot box was the last straw for me. In my opinion War Gaming just lost regular money from me for the short term profit.
Anyone else have no option to take the Even 90? It's a second trade in I try to get it and it is simply not showing up there...
Do you have it as a rental? I heard this would interfere with trade in.
@@dracostar5418 Hey Mate! That was it! thanks!
I never trade in premiums... i put them in 'reserve' so that if they ever pop out of a box in the future I get gold.
TRADE-IN AT NO EXTRA CHARGE allows you to trade in your vehicle for any of the vehicles available at no additional cost.
*F* *A* *L* *S* *E*
Bad problem is all the tanks WG adds that are copy paste, same as ones you already have just different style so now you have to own the same tank multiple times to keep from getting them in the loot box's. WG knows what they are doing and how it screws us by doing it
Why we can sell Skorpion, but can't buy it?
Skiieeel
you pronounced Schmalturm very good^^
Ive visited trade in and i was like... No new premium additions to trade? Then i forgot i have like 120 premium tanks so new ones was not visible for me xd
how to describe that you will die alone without saying you will die alone
Will you stream today skill ?
Well done, Skill.
I like to play my VK4503, great sniper. And to play t7 is better than t8 imho.
Yeah, I don't trade them in as it is win win for WG. They get you to spend half credit, throw the top returned vehicles into the next lootbox batch of tanks, and they'll reskin some of the others to lower your chances to get the new tank.
Alternatively, if you stop spending money on lootboxes they might just stop selling them.
I don't see a trade-in tab in the store, why is that?
Click Store> then second tab down on the left. Trade in Program.
I was a tank collector until this year because I lost most interest in WoT for the moment and because too many box events. I miss the Black Market.
i miss the option to trade my Chieftain
Can I purchase one of these tanks without a trade-in? Paying full price?
Nope.... only the ones in the premium shop or bond store.
am a F2P player. What I am thinking of is buying an IS-6 from the bond store and trading it in for an ELC EVEN 90, which I heard is very good but never played it in my life.
Buy alpine tiger, worth more gold, so better trade in
you can do the tutorials in world of warplanes in a few hours and get a thousand gold, that way you can get elc without spending a cent.
@@gergo7507I got a free XM66F during the year end festival season. I sold it for 5500 Gold and bought a ELC :)
Ty i don't have a heavy premium so maybe I'll get 50tp or double gun Soviet!
When is gonna be Trade In event again? Anybody knows?
You must be trolling right? Or don't you read the announcement on the wot client. There a trade-in on eu server right now.
@@really7187 No, i really didn't checked. Thanks anyway
I wish I could trade many to one. This way I'd get rid of some T6 worthless tanks for one great T8.
Sweet! Trade in your Mercedeath for a Moskvich. Great Deal. Wheres Kanonenjagdpanzer 90mm. ;)
Good luck WG put Chimera on the box 😅
I change Chimera for Lis...it's about the time to get that tank 😅
I enjoyed this video and there are some good tanks to get but not me, I am out of gold almost 2 years now 🙄
i have a good time play the kv 5 but there are way better tanks in this i like it better the the low
Can i trade in alipne tiger for obj274a and than again buy alpine tiger from bond store a trade it again for something else?
Yes
im 2k bonds short of having alpine tiger and get elc even 90 :(
I swapped my Emil 1951 for your recomendation WZ-120-1G FT. Best choice so far, thank you! I almost decided for the Mauerbrecher tho xd
Der Panzer ist der Blanke Müll kannst du schmerzen ab oder was ist bei dir nicht richtig
I traded the TS-5 (slow and peeps just spam gold at you) for the WZ-120-1G FT (faster and better camo) and am massively impressed. I feel like an olympic sprinter with a boom stick!
@@1000RedDog0001 This tank is very impressive. If the WZ hits, it will be painful and the DPM is also high. Definetly a better choice than TS-5 :D
@@1000RedDog0001 Tausche diesen gegen den Kanonenjagtpanzer 105. Schnell genau aber aus Papier , aber mir egal . Wichtig für mich war die genaue Kanone.
thank you very much kind sir
all these tanks... and JT Pr still hasn't been sold
I would ratler compare T77 to AMX 50B, than T57. T57 is lose range dpm monster with mediocre speed. T77 is fast heavy with bad DPM. Plastyle is more comparable with 50B in my opinion.
My two cents:
Hwk 30 is actually strong and extremely fun to play.
Lowe might be worth it too.
122 TM is good, but you can also just get the T-34-3 for bonds. Yes, there are differences, but you have a similar play style where you have to play off your aplha.
I can't find elc even 90 in trade in wtf ? someone explain
@@N_u_r_d yes,thx
Maybe because you have it as a rental? Delete and it will appear in the list
Awful as they are, I am not prepared to get rid of my old premiums. I would much rather Wargaming would buff the old crap to make it somewhat competetive again, or better still, nerf the overpowered meta crap. THAT would be the fair thing to do.
trade in teechtree tanks they will never put them in loot boxes
*How dare you shit talk my beautiful AMX Cda 105!* It is my favorite tank. I have 2k battles in it and I 3-marked it. I love the game play so much! It is the best tank.
I can't see cs lis on my list 😢😢
Maybe because you have it as a rental? Delete and it will appear in the list
thanks skill
TY 🙏🙏
Hi skiiiiiiill and baboons. I have a question, I have a Lowe, is it worth exchanging it for a VK 75.01 K?
Nooooo. No. No ! Lowe is much better, more reliable.
Dont do it vk 75 is shit
VK 75.01 K is a very annoying tank to play! Extreme slow, extreme sluggish in everything! Very low DPM, 5deg depression, and big dispersion!
Don't do it. VK 75 is trash
Dont
Swapped nomad for 703 II
Kinda considering trading in my Caliban for a LIS. 🤔
Same 😏
I literally sold off a few tanks for credits a couple of days ago...
I'm a free 2 play player so i rationalize my account, let's say it like that
Never do it first of all. Second - u can restore them
Guide : Trade the trash for good stuff
Nice!
and if you not got gold in the first place means nothing :)
Day 2 of asking skiiiieeeeeeell to play t49 with smoll peee peee
I love that combination: bread and butter :) PL
Too bad wot is basically a t8-10 game only now. Its like 3/4 of their content is junk tier now.
I traded my IS-3A for Obj. 274a
🤦♂
Noooooo shovel 😭 epic tank. How dare you skill to touch my shovel 😏
I have the exact amount of gold to get the burrasque(giving a alpine tiger bought for bonds) guess i’ll wait for the next one hoping they’ll put it in the tank list
Borat is so good!!! Not sure if it will be in the Trade-In though.
they wont put borat into trade in
Borat, prog 46, BZ, Skoda t56 are tank you will probably never see in that store :D
@@M4xXxIkInG they added 703 and that’s a pretty op tank so i think borat will come one day
wargaming the company that kills you alone
I traded T-34-3 for a CS-52 Lis B)
Mistake my friend xD
@@stefanvemicnah it's a nice trade as long as you shoot gold with Lis.
@@unicucumber just kidding, its awesome as long as you trade in tanks that you can buy later for bonds! I did it with Liberte so i got Lis and french heavy for 1450 gold and 8000 bonds ;)
Good choice
People will trade in a tank like the Chrysler K, and a future update will put flamethrower on it.
But skiiillll
I definitly not agree with you with T-27 !
How can do you compare t-27 with a progetto...
Do you compare a T-50 with a standard b ?
No, not the same gameplay at all !
T-27 is a T-50 at tier 8.
Yep butt no bz 176 zoo no thanks
No italians this Time, so sad
Sad bisonte noises
ONE simple word: THIEVES !!!!!!